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Deputy PM proclaims civil state, pluralism in draft constitutional document

Ali Selmy, deputy prime minister for political affairs, in a meeting on Friday, presented a document entitled “Basic Constitutional Principles” to a number of Egyptian political parties, seeking their views on the document's contents.

The Wafd Party, the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party, and the Nour Party were shown the document, which contains suggested basic principles, rights and general freedoms to be included in the future Egyptian constitution.

Al-Masry Al-Youm has obtained a version of the document, whose abridged version reads as follows:

Basic Principles:

The Arab Republic of Egypt is a civil democratic state based on citizenship and the rule of law, and respects pluralism, and guarantees freedom, justice, and equality, and provides opportunities to all citizens without discrimination. The Egyptian people are part of the Arab nation, and work for achieving its comprehensive unity.
Islam is the state religion, the Arabic language is its official language, and Islamic Sharia is the primary source of legislation. Non-Muslims resort to their own laws in regards to their personal issues and religious affairs.
Sovereignty is given to the people alone, and they are the source of authority, which they exercise through referendums and fair elections…
The political system for the democratic republic is based on balance of power between various branches of government and the peaceful transfer of power, and the multiplicity of political parties and their establishment by notification…
The national economy is based on comprehensive and sustainable development, which aims to achieve social well-being and fulfill citizens’ most basic needs, promote investment, protect free competition, prevent harmful monopolistic practices, protect the consumer, and guarantee that the benefits of economic growth are fairly distributed to the citizens. The state commits to protecting public property under its supervision, along with its wealth, national resources, lands, and national heritage, in both the material and moral sense…
The state alone may establish the armed forces, which is the people’s property, and whose role is to protect the country’s security and independence, along with its unity and sovereignty over all its land. It is forbidden for any federation, group, or party to create military formations or anything resembling them.
Rights and General Freedoms:

Human dignity is every person’s genuine right, and all Egyptian citizens are free and equal before the law in rights and freedoms and general obligations. Discrimination among them due to sex, origin, language, religion, creeds, wealth, social status, political views, or disabilities or anything of that sort is forbidden.
The state guarantees freedom of belief, worship, and religious slogans and protects the role of worship.
Egyptian nationality is a genuine right of all citizens and stripping citizenship or exiling any Egyptian from his country or preventing him from returning is forbidden, except in the case of a justified judicial ruling.
Freedom of conscience, expression and the media are guaranteed, so long as they do not violate the sanctity of individuals’ private lives, the rights of others, and the fundamentals of Egyptian society. Sabotaging the media, or censoring it or its sources, is forbidden, except as a result of a justified judicial decision, and for a limited period.
Every human being has the right to uncover, transfer, and publish information and participate in cultural and artistic life in all its forms. The state guarantees the freedom of academics, scientific research, imagination, and innovation, and guarantees the independence of universities and scientific research centers.
Every human has the right to enjoy the sanctity of his private life, correspondence, telephone conversations and electronic messages and other forms of communication. Arresting, searching, detaining, confining him, or restricting his personal freedom is forbidden, except with prior judicial order… Except in cases of crimes pertaining to the armed forces, civilians may not be tried in front of any exceptional or military court.
Private property is protected, except in case of judicial ruling and in exchange for fair compensation…
The right to work is guaranteed. The state strives to provide work opportunities to every citizen with the condition of fairness without discrimination, and commits itself to setting a minimum wage to guarantee the citizen human dignity and an appropriate standard of living. Every citizen has the right to assume a public post as long as he is qualified for the position.
Every citizen has the right to a secure life, a pollution-free environment, proper nutrition, habitation, healthcare, exercise, as well as insurance against unemployment, sickness and old-age in accordance with the requirements of justice and social solidarity.
The citizen has a right to an education, and the state commits to providing educational opportunities in its educational institutions for free …
The citizen has the right to set up syndicates, unions, groups, and civil foundations, and they have the right to assemble and demonstrate peacefully without prejudicing the rights of others or the basic rights, principles, or freedoms written in this document.

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Op maandag 15 augustus 2011 12:18 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Morgen ga ik naar Egypte, om te beginnen 4 dagen Cairo.

Ik ben benieuwd!!

edit: geen noemenswaardig nieuwsberichtje, sorry

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Het dus terug trekken van de ambassadeur uit Tel-aviv ([s[Ik zoek betrouwbare bronnen hiervoor[/s]) -> Schijnt dat Egyptische staats-tv deze bericht heeft gemeld. Al-Jazeera heeft dat nu ook gemeld. P

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 09:36 schreef RobertoCarlos het volgende:

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http://english.aljazeera.(...)medium=MasterAccount

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 16:18 schreef paddy het volgende:

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Dus in feite gaat het niet om die vijf politieagenten maar om het willen beschermen van de Hamas?

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 16:32 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Nee, het gaat om de 3 soldaten en 2 politieagenten. Waar lees je dat het over Hamas gaat?

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 18:42 schreef paddy het volgende:

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Luister naar het filmpje. Ze moeten luisteren naar de echte vrienden aan de grens Wie grenst er nog meer aan Egypte?. Dus niet Isra�l is hiermee bedoeld.

Wanneer het gaat om die drie soldaten had je dat terug moeten horen. Luister het filmpje. Jij moet toch kunnen verstaan wat die demonstranten roepen?

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 18:42 schreef paddy het volgende:

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Luister naar het filmpje. Ze moeten luisteren naar de echte vrienden aan de grens Wie grenst er nog meer aan Egypte?. Dus niet Isra�l is hiermee bedoeld.

Wanneer het gaat om die drie soldaten had je dat terug moeten horen. Luister het filmpje. Jij moet toch kunnen verstaan wat die demonstranten roepen?

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 19:23 schreef rakotto het volgende:

En de haat die in Egypte bestaat tegenover Israel is niet te danken aan geestelijken. De Egyptische volk heeft gewoon een hekel aan Israel sinds de laatste oorlog in de jaren 70.

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Op zaterdag 20 augustus 2011 19:23 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Ik heb het filmpje niet gezien. Ik heb alleen het artikel gelezen en andere nieuwsberichten. Mijn connectie hier bied mij het luxe niet aan om het filmpje te zien. Maar wat de regering deed gaat om de 5 soldaten die omgekomen zijn.

En de haat die in Egypte bestaat tegenover Israel is niet te danken aan geestelijken. De Egyptische volk heeft gewoon een hekel aan Israel sinds de laatste oorlog in de jaren 70.

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Op zondag 21 augustus 2011 04:37 schreef paddy het volgende:

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Maar ze hebben toch een vredesverdrag getekend? Ik kan mij niet herinneren dat de Nederlandse bevolking na veertig jaar nog een hekel had aan Duitsers nl. Ik vraag mij dus af of het niet gewoon om de Palestijnen gaat. Zich verwant voelen door broederschap of zoiets? Merk jij daar iets van daar?

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Op zondag 21 augustus 2011 12:03 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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De vredesakkoord is tegen de wil van de mensen getekend. Weliswaar is 60% tot 70% voor vrede, maar ze zien het akkoord als iets dat in de nadeel van Egypte werkt. Men voelt zich ook misbruikt door de jaren heen na de vredesakkoord dankzij het Mubarak regime. Ook is dit niet de eerste keer dat er soldaten worden gedood op Egyptisch grondgebied. In de Mubarak dynastie werd er gewoon niets gedaan. Geen onderzoek, geen sorry, helemaal niets. Het leven ging gewoon door en dat is iets waar de mensen niet mee konden leven.

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Op zondag 21 augustus 2011 12:22 schreef wikwakka2 het volgende:

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Het volk moet eens snappen dat vrede > oorlog en dat ze alleen maar gebaat zijn met vrede met Isra�l. Neemt niet weg dat het geheel terecht is dat de Egyptische overheid die vijf doden niet door de vingers ziet - Isra�l moet ook maar eens leren dat ze niet alles kunnen maken.

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Op zondag 21 augustus 2011 12:03 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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De vredesakkoord is tegen de wil van de mensen getekend. Weliswaar is 60% tot 70% voor vrede, maar ze zien het akkoord als iets dat in de nadeel van Egypte werkt. Men voelt zich ook misbruikt door de jaren heen na de vredesakkoord dankzij het Mubarak regime. Ook is dit niet de eerste keer dat er soldaten worden gedood op Egyptisch grondgebied. In de Mubarak dynastie werd er gewoon niets gedaan. Geen onderzoek, geen sorry, helemaal niets. Het leven ging gewoon door en dat is iets waar de mensen niet mee konden leven.

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Op zondag 21 augustus 2011 17:30 schreef Stephen_Dedalus het volgende:

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Als er geen vrede was getekend toen, had Israel een heel Egyptisch leger kunnen vernietigen en tot aan de poorten van Cairo kunnen optrekken. Of het volk het nou wilde of niet. De Egyptisch situatie was uitzichtloos.

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Op zondag 21 augustus 2011 19:14 schreef Stephen_Dedalus het volgende:
Het Egyptisch derde leger was volledig afgesneden in de Sinai. Sinai is uiteindelijk opgegeven in de vrede door de druk die uitgeoefend werd door de Amerikanen en Sovjets. Vooral de laatste. De Egyptenaren zijn er toendertijd onverdiend genadig vanaf gekomen.

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Op woensdag 24 augustus 2011 20:18 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Thanks

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:-D

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Op woensdag 7 september 2011 18:13 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Eind deze week moet Tantawi, Sami Annan, Omar Soliman, de vorige BiZa voorzitter en de huidige voorzitter.

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Today the court will hear the testimonies of the 8th and 9th prosecution’s witnesses : Essam Hussein Shawky and Hussein Abdel Hady.
Now according to Sources inside the court it seems that police colonel Essam Shawky’s testimony is actually the real smoking gun in the case as he allegedly presented a CD to the court showing the live ammunition used by CSF to shoot the protesters in Cairo and Alexandria.
Shawky revealed that the minister of interior had a meeting of January 27th and put unprecedented plan to ban protesting by all means !! By all means means : Hiding police cars , calling on police reserves and cutting Mobile SMS.
He also stated that El Adly ordered that the police will be armed with live ammunition. He also added that El Adly gave his orders to cut the internet and mobile phone lines.
In the prosecution investigation Col. Shawky said that he guided the prosecution to evidence that incriminating El Adly and his aides in the killing of the protesters case.
Shawky revealed that he asked the public prosecutor to take a copy from the communications of the CSF before it was destroyed and the public prosecutor was to lazy to do it.
He also revealed that there were automatic guns in Down Town Cairo and clear orders from the CSF's operation room to deal with the protesters without returning back to the operation.
In the end of his testimony the civil claims rights lawyers saluted Shawky and did not ask him any question unlike the defendants’ lawyers who asked him weak questions.
Shawky was not summoned by the prosecution office , he is the one who went to the public prosecutor and presented this information.
Gamal Mubarak was reportedly nervous during Shawky’s testimony.
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Judge Ahmed Rafaet has suspended the case because of the conduct of the defendants' lawyers who went coco after Essam Hosni Abbas who needs an immediate protection, public protection.
Essam Hosni is a national hero and social network sensation. The 39 years old Essan Hosni Abbas Shawky
is a police colonel who works in the Conscripts affairs and allegedly refused to carry the orders and shoot the protesters. It was also revealed that he went himself to the public prosecution. This man needs a true public protection.
The next witness will be Major Mohamed El Hosseiny Farg.
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The session is resumed and judge Rafaet criticizes the defendant lawyers' conduct. The next witness , the 9th witness is police General Hussein Abdel Hamid , the former aide minister for CSF affairs who attended the interior meeting on January 27th and told Essam Abbas about ti.
The defendants' lawyers are demanding the testimony of Essam Abbas' direct manager.
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Mubarak had no comment on the testimony of the 8th witness while Habib El Adly denied totally. Currently the court is listening to the testimony of Hussein Abdel Hamid.

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The judge has suspended the case for the second time and will return to complete hearing the testimony of the 9th witness who turned to have an explosive testimony just like the 8th witness.
9th witness is police general Hussein Abdel Hamid and he said during the meeting held on January 27th in the ministry
Later I will compile more information about his extremely important testimony.

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Op donderdag 8 september 2011 17:27 schreef johnnylove het volgende:
Had dit artikel vanochtend gelezen:

http://www.thedailybeast.(...)ctator-unravels.html

Wat Essam Hosni verklaart heeft toch alleen betrekking op de minister van BiZa? Zal Hosni beschermt worden door de Ultras?

الالتراس يسب مبارك و صدام مع الامن المركزى

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Opnieuw roep om demonstraties in Egypte
Laatste update: 9 september 2011 11:38 info
AMSTERDAM - Activisten in Egypte roepen vrijdag op tot een nieuwe 'miljoenenmars' op het Tahrirplein in de hoofdstad Cairo, epicentrum van de opstanden tegen het gevallen regime van Hosni Mubarak.

De diverse politieke groeperingen en de jongerenpartij die aanzetten tot de Egyptische revolutie van februari 2011, willen een nieuwe betoging om de “de revolutie weer op het rechte pad te krijgen” door een einde te maken aan de militaire rechtszaken tegen burgers. Ook roepen ze om hervorming van de verkiezingswet.

De door de Moslimbroederschap opgerichte Islamitische partij distantieert zich van de geplande protesten, meldt de Arabische nieuwszender al-Arabiya.

Begin augustus laaiden op het Tahrirplein ook nieuwe protesten op. Het leger zette toen tanks en wapenstokken in om het plein schoon te vegen, meldden ooggetuigen.

Revolutie

Het hoofdstedelijke ‘Vrijheidsplein’ was nadat in januari van dit jaar de massabetogingen tegen het dertig jaar oude autoritaire bewind van president Mubarak losbarstte, de spil van de Egyptische revolutie. De betogingen leidden op 11 februari tot de val van het Mubarak-bewind.

De sindsdien overgebleven actievoerders eisen een verder gaande zuivering van de regering van leden van het oude regime. Ook eisen ze dat agenten die betrokken waren bij de dood van demonstranten tijdens de volksopstand vervolgd worden.

Ook vinden veel Egyptenaren dat het leger de strafrechtelijke vervolging traineert van leden voormalige regime die verantwoordelijk zijn voor het neerschieten van betogers tijdens de volksopstand in januari en februari.
@nu.nl

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Op vrijdag 9 september 2011 18:42 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Gaat er hard aan toe. De mensen zijn momenteel bezig met het kapot maken van een 150 meter lange uur dat voor de Israelische ambassade is gebouwd. Ze hebben de helft afgebroken en de leger + politie hebben de scene verlaten.

NIEMAND is binnen de Israelische ambassade gegaan. Een muur hebben de Egyptenaren niet nodig.

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Op vrijdag 9 september 2011 18:43 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Sowieso is die ambassade verlaten sinds de opstand.

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Op vrijdag 9 september 2011 18:54 schreef Mutant01 het volgende:
Pure toeval dat dit gebeurt ten tijde van de verandering van koers van Turkije tegenover Israel?

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Op vrijdag 9 september 2011 22:56 schreef theNull het volgende:
waar hoor/zie je dat?

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Urgent: Health ministry official to state tv: 187 wounded @ clashes @ #israeliembassy today

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Op vrijdag 9 september 2011 23:55 schreef theNull het volgende:
Zie daar wel continue gasten lopen met een doekje voor hun mond, geen idee waarvoor. Dat taaltje is voor mij abracadabra

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more than 100,000 israeli infront of Egypt embassy in TelAviv Now #sep9 #Egypt #jan25 #israelembassy #tahrir #cairo

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 00:19 schreef theNull het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 00:19 schreef theNull het volgende:

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Op vrijdag 9 september 2011 23:11 schreef rakotto het volgende:
De protesteerders zijn naar binnen gegaan in de Israelische ambassade en gooien alle documenten uit de balkon. Alle documenten zijn in het Hebreews. Ik kan niet wachten op de sappige verhalen/leaks.

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 07:29 schreef SemperSenseo het volgende:

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En wederom zie ik zorgwekkende parallellen met wat gebeurde in destijds Iran

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Egypte in verhoogde staat van paraatheid
Laatste update: 10 september 2011 11:42 info
CAIRO - Het Egyptische ministerie van Binnenlandse Zaken heeft zaterdag de politie in verhoogde staat van paraatheid gebracht na de bestorming van de Isra�lische ambassade in Ca�ro.
Foto: ANP

Alle politieverloven zijn ingetrokken.De regering komt zaterdag in spoedzitting bijeen.

Volgens de krant al-Ahram wil de regering van premier Essam Sharaf haar ontslag indienen. Het was zaterdagochtend rustig bij de ambassade. Op ��n persoon na is al het ambassadepersoneel terug in Isra�l.

Premier Benjamin Netanyahu van Isra�l spreekt van een ''ernstig incident''

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 11:49 schreef theNull het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 12:40 schreef SemperSenseo het volgende:

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Maar natuurlijk is dit een ''ernstig incident''. De ambassade is Isra�lisch (extraterritoriaal) grondgebied. Tel daar nog bij de aanvallen vorige maand vanuit Egypte door Egyptenaren waarbij Isra�lische burgers de dood vonden, en de heftige reactie van Israel daarop (terecht of onterecht), en dit is inderdaad een kruitvat..

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 14:11 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Pardon?

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 21:35 schreef rakotto het volgende:
De huidige regering had allang de ambassadeur moeten weg sturen en de relaties op een lager niveau moeten zetten nadat de Egyptische soldaten vermoord werden door Israelische troepen OP Egyptisch grondbezig enkele weken terug.

De huidige regering heeft geen ballen en is gewoon een schoothondje zoals hoe Mubarak was.

De mensen hebben gewoon gedaan wat er gedaan moest worden, en dat is het wegsturen van de Joodse ambassadeur.

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 22:06 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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Netjes van Netanyahu. Hij gaat zich gewoon aan het vredesaccoord houden.

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 22:28 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Zich houden door Egyptisch grondgebied te treden en dan nog Egyptische soldaten te vermoorden?

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Op zaterdag 10 september 2011 22:33 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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Hij houdt zich er aan zelfs na het bestormen van de ambassade.

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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
am startting 2 really believe tht #israeliembassy events was a plot by army 2tighten crackdown n they used zealous revolutionaries #sep9
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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
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@maggieosama am working on this. I will keep you posted. He just can;t talk now. trying 2 get 2 rights organizations to rescue ppl inside
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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
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@adamakary AlJazeera Mubasher Misr, his name is Mohamed Gomaa
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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
He was the only1 who was able to get out because AlJazeera intervened #israeliembassy he says he can't move a bone in his body after torture
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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
He got a call from 1 of them begging for help. Army left people die infront of his eyes without rescuing them #israeliembassy
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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
people arrested spent the night given electric shots n tortured. He says it's worse than #Mubarak days #israeliembassy
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RanaKhazbak Rana Khazbak
My frnd,AlJazeera producer arrested at #israeliembassy while reporting,just got out says:he was tortured savagely by army cntd #sep9 #noscaf
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am startting 2 really believe tht #israeliembassy events was a plot by army 2tighten crackdown n they used zealous revolutionaries

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Op zondag 11 september 2011 15:23 schreef waht het volgende:

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De demonstranten zijn gedwongen de Israelische ambassade binnen te dringen en af te breken?

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Egyptian authorities crack down on satellite channels

The Information Ministry on Sunday launched a campaign in cooperation with the Interior Ministry's censorship department to check the permits of 16 satellite channels broadcasting from Egypt.

Informed sources told Al-Masry Al-Youm that the office of Al Jazeera Mubasher Misr, which began transmission following the ouster of former President Hosni Mubarak in February, was raided by Egyptian authorities.

According to Al Jazeera Mubasher Misr’s news bar, one of the channel’s broadcast engineers was arrested and a piece of equipment confiscated.

Information Minister Osama Heikal on Wednesday announced that the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces and the cabinet decided after a joint meeting that day to temporarily suspend granting new permits to satellite channels.

Participants in the meeting also decided to prosecute satellite channels deemed threatening to the stability of the country.

Egyptian rights organizations meanwhile condemned the decision, saying it is a regression to the oppressive policies of Mubarak's regime.

The April 6 Youth Movement threatened to take legal action against the decisions.

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'Battle of the Camel' trial begins with a ban on broadcasts, lawyers barred from court

The first session of the much-anticipated trial of the alleged masterminds of the notorious “Battle of the Camel,” including two of Hosni Mubarak's long-serving aides, provoked consternation on Sunday after the judge ordered a ban of live television transmission and barred the bulk of the plaintiffs’ lawyers from the courtroom after scuffles with police.

For almost one hour, state-owned television aired the trial of 25 defendants accused of recruiting thugs to “terrify” and kill peaceful demonstrators in Tahrir Square on 2 February, arming many of the attackers with melee weapons and live ammunition.

The highpoint of the broadcast consisted of shots showing Mubarak’s former prot�g�s Safwat al-Sherif and Ahmed Fathi Sorour languishing inside the dock. Dressed in prison white, Sherif, 77, former speaker of the Shura Council and former secretary general of the disbanded National Democratic Party (NDP), and Sorour, 79, former speaker of the People's Assembly, appeared clam and well. Sherif had his hair dyed brown as usual.

The judge for the trial, Justice Mostafa Hassan Abdel Allah, dedicated the first part of today's session to hearing the demands of tens of lawyers representing the defendants. After a short recess, he announced the end of live television transmission of the trial.

"This proves that there is a strong inclination to impose restrictions on the media and on people's access to information," said Gamal Eid, a lawyer and executive director of the Arab Network for Human Rights Information. He added that his organization will appeal this decision soon in an administrative court.

“This is a public opinion case and the decision to impose the ban should be justified and should be for clear reasons and for a limited period of time," added Eid, whose organization represents many of revolution’s victims in several court cases nationwide.

However, Ahmed Ragheb, director of the Hisham Mubarak Law Center, interpreted the media ban as an indication that the trial might be “impartial.”

Ragheb, whose organization represents some of the victims of the attacks, said that plaintiffs’ lawyers may file a request for a change of judge, on the grounds of his alleged loyalty to the old regime. Ragheb refers to an acquittal verdict that Abdel Allah handed down in a case against a former prominent NDP parliamentarian.

In 2008, Justice Abdel Allah acquitted Hani Sorour, a former member of the People’s Assembly and CEO of a medical supplies company, who was accused of providing hospitals with contaminated blood bags. The verdict caused outrage among many observers and was seen then as a sign of corruption. Later, Sorour was convicted by another court and sentenced to three years in prison.

The Battle of the Camel represented a turning point in the 18-day uprising that toppled former President Hosni Mubarak, galvanizing support for the revolutionary forces and causing thousands of previously undecided observers to join the anti-regime protests.

On 1 February, Mubarak addressed the nation with an emotional speech, expressing his desire to live the rest of his life and die on Egyptian soil. He also affirmed that he would step down at the end of his term in September and promised a set of constitutional amendments to open up the political space. His speech hit a nerve with many Egyptians, who sympathized with the ailing 83-year-old dictator and felt there was no need for more protests.

But this sympathy evaporated quickly in light of developing events on the streets of Cairo.

In the early afternoon of 2 February, large groups of hired thugs flooded Tahrir Square to attack protesters with rocks, clubs, bladed weapons and chains. Among the attackers were some riding horses and camels, from which the incident took it's common name. Some of the attackers climbed on the rooftops of buildings and threw Molotov cocktails and allegedly fired bullets at demonstrators. The violence lasted more than 12 hours and left 11 dead.

Contrary to the expectations of those organizing the attacks, they provoked widespread anti-Mubarak feeling and helped force his resignation on 11 February.

Along with Mubarak's two prominent prot�g�s, several other former parliamentarians and businessmen languished in the cage during Sunday’s session, including former Manpower Minister Aisha Abdel Hady, the former head of Egypt's Federation of Trade Unions, Hussein Mogawer, prominent businessman and former leader of the NDP, Ibrahim Kamel, and controversial lawyer Mortada Mansour.

After the prosecutors' lengthy presentation of the charges, Abdel Allah asked each defendant to comment. From inside the cage, Sherif, the prime suspect in the case, said: "I completely deny them." At his turn, Sorour replied: "I have nothing to do with this issue. All accusations are void and defamatory." All the remaining suspects denied the charges.

Besides the ban on live transmission, the plaintiffs’ lawyers complained about being barred from attending the session.

Earlier in the day, clashes erupted between lawyers and the police as the former tried to gain access to the courtroom. Eventually, the judge banned them from entering. However, by the time the ban was imposed, dozens of lawyers representing the defendants had already gained access to the courtroom.

"The situation was so chaotic, and the end result was that only one or two of the plaintiffs’ lawyers managed to get inside," said Ragheb.

Ragheb accused some supporters of the defendants, as well as their lawyers, of starting the fight with police in order to prompt the judge to declare a ban on lawyers entering the court.

The trial is set to resume on Monday for three days.

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Op zondag 11 september 2011 15:23 schreef waht het volgende:

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De demonstranten zijn gedwongen de Israelische ambassade binnen te dringen en af te breken?

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Emad Ibrahim, a lawyer representing revolutionary martyrs in Beni Suef, dropped a bombshell on Tuesday during the fourth session of the case into the killing of demonstrators during the revolution, in which former Security Director Ahmed Shawqi and 12 others are charged.

Ibrahim said the Interior Ministry issued checks totalling LE120,000 to four plaintiffs who were wounded by security forces, in return for changing their testimonies.

The victims filed a report against Mohamed Tanbash, the fourth defendant, saying he tried to force them to accept their share of the money and drop the lawsuit.

The lawyer of the defendants requested that his clients, who are still free, should not be detained by police.

The court was adjourned until 13 October.

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Fears rise as Egypt cracks down on press

The authorities in Egypt have widened emergency laws and clamped down on the press, raising fears of a curtailment of the liberties gained after the popular uprising which toppled Hosni Mubarak, the former president, earlier this year.

The Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, in power during a promised transition to elected rule, said on Sunday night that it was widening emergency legislation to cover a range of “threats to public order” including “attacks on the freedom to work” – code for strikes – and the deliberate dissemination of rumours and false information.

“The most dangerous thing is that they have amended the emergency law to cover what they consider crimes committed by journalists,” said Gamal Fahmy, a board member of the journalists union. “The text is vague and can stretch to cover all sorts of criticism of the authorities.”

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Al-Jazeera Egypt shut down for ‘sowing dissent’

CAIRO — The satellite channel Al-Jazeera Egypt said on Sunday the authorities had prevented it from broadcasting, after entering its offices and confiscating transmission equipment.

Ahmed Zain, the channel's chief in Cairo, told AFP that police, officers from the culture ministry and representatives of Egypt's public broadcaster had also seized materials and that one technician was arrested.

He said they cited the lack of an official licence to broadcast and a complaint from the neighbourhood. He said a lawyer also presented a complaint accusing the channel of "sowing dissent" and "calling for demonstrations."

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Members of the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) are willing to renew protests and even risk their lives if the authorities do not submit to the will of the people, said Hassan al-Brince, a member of the MB's administrative bureau in Alexandria.

At a conference organized by the MB on Tuesday, Brince said the MB considers 27 September as the date when the legitimacy of the transitional period ends. He also accused what he described as “remnants of the former regime” of spreading chaos in an attempt to delay the upcoming parliamentary elections and extend military rule.

“We completely and absolutely refuse the so-called supra-constitutional principles, and we are demanding the elections be held on time, without the Emergency Law,” said Brince.

“We will not allow the US and EU to enforce their agendas and homosexuality-promoting laws and the abolition of Islamic Sharia, as the people will not abandon Islam," he continued.

Muslim Brotherhood luminary Sobhi Saleh said the supra-constitutional principles issued by Deputy Prime Minister Ali al-Selmy were “unconstitutional, undemocratic and unpractical" and that the cabinet had no authority to issue such principles.

“We invite the government to withdraw this document and apologize for it, as it is a great insult to the people,” said Saleh. “We will not accept anything other than the Islamic Sharia, and we will not rest until the Islamic Sharia is fully applied.”

Meanwhile, Freedom and Justice Party Secretray General Hussein Ibrahim accused Prime Minister Essam Sharaf’s cabinet of conspiring against the Egyptian people. He said that the revolution achieved a number of major objectives, the most significant of which was the toppling of ousted President Hosni Mubarak and his regime, as well as bringing former Interior Minister Habib al-Adly to trial.

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Op woensdag 14 september 2011 22:52 schreef rakotto het volgende:
De ware aard van de moslimbroederschap begint tevoorschijn te komen.

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Egypt sentences steel magnate to 10 years for graft


Sun, Sep 11 2011
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Egypt Ezz Steel falls 8.9 pct after court verdict

CAIRO, Sept 15 | Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:42am EDT
(Reuters) - An Egyptian court on Thursday sentenced steel magnate Ahmed Ezz, who held senior party posts under ousted President Hosni Mubarak, to 10 years in jail and fined 660 million Egyptian pounds ($110.9 million) for corruption.

Amr Assal, ex-head of Egypt's Industrial Development Authority, was sentenced to 10 years and the same fine. The presiding judge said it would be up to Ezz and Assal to pay back 660 million pounds together, representing the total of public money he said they had wasted.

The court also sentenced former Trade and Industry Minister Rachid Mohamed Rachid in absentia to 15 years and a fine of 1.4 billion Egyptian pounds. Rachid, believed to be outside Egypt, had been sentenced in July to five years in prison for squandering public funds.

Ezz, who quit the board of Ezz Steel and its Ezz Dekheila Steel unit on May, has denied any wrongdoing. The three men were found guilty of collaborating to grant licences without paying fees. The judge revoked the licences.

The ruling can be appealed at the Court of Cassation.

Ezz was a senior official in Mubarak's National Democratic Party, which was dissolved after the popular uprising that ousted the autocratic president from power in February. ($1 = 5.957 Egyptian Pounds) (Writing by Edmund Blair and Andrew Hammond; Editing by Mark Heinrich)

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Op woensdag 14 september 2011 22:52 schreef rakotto het volgende:
De ware aard van de moslimbroederschap begint tevoorschijn te komen.

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Op donderdag 15 september 2011 23:05 schreef rakotto het volgende:

Egypt's Ultras chant against regime الالتراس يهتفون ضد الداخلية

Afgelopen vrijdag.

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Op vrijdag 16 september 2011 11:10 schreef Stephen_Dedalus het volgende:

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Als de wil van het volk gevolgd was dan was er al een tijd terug de oorlog aan Israel verklaard. Het is maar goed dat de militairen de macht in handen houden.

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The Interior Ministry used snipers to kill the demonstrators during the 25 January revolution, an Al-Masry Al-Youm investigation has revealed.

This revelation contradicts current Interior Minister Mansour al-Essawy, who has repeatedly denied that the Interior Ministry ever had sniper units within its security forces.

Al-Masry Al-Youm has obtained official Interior Ministry documents classified as "top secret and not for publication."

The documents contain the names of sniper teams that were paid by the Interior Ministry, which at the time was run by Habib al-Adly. They also disclose the different governorate locations at which these units received their training.

Retired General Mohamed Nasser, one of the founders of the Interior Ministry's international terrorism department, stressed the existence of "sniper elements" in the department.

Al-Masry Al-Youm accompanied Mahmoud Adel, who was shot during the revolution, as he visited former Chief Medical Examiner Ayman Fouda to have his leg wound examined.

Fouda said that Adel has a fracture in his right thigh created by a bullet that fragmented upon impact, claiming that the bullet could not have been fired from a short range.

The oval shape of Adel's injury suggests that he was shot from a high location, Fouda added.

Interior Ministry snipers usually use 800-meter-range rifles, Nasser said, adding that their bullets penetrate the body swiftly, accurately, and deeply. He also said that the units use many different types of rifles.

The fact-finding committee set up by the Egyptian government to investigate the killing of protesters in Tahrir Square during the revolution found that "the police fired live ammunition while hunting [protesters] from the roofs of the buildings overlooking Tahrir Square."

Al-Masry Al-Youm also obtained a document dated 1 February from the Interior Ministry's operations room containing an order for two snipers to begin an operation.

A copy of the testimony of Mohamed Diaa Eddin, a doctor at the Department of Surgery and the Department of Accidents at Qasr al-Aini Hospital, was also obtained. Diaa Eddin was working in the Department of Accidents from 27 January to 7 February.

In his testimony, he said that hundreds of people arrived at the hospital from Tahrir during this period who had received "bullets in the chest and in [vital areas of the body], showing that the shooters had attempted to kill protesters."

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Als de wil van het volk gevolgd was dan was er al een tijd terug de oorlog aan Israel verklaard. Het is maar goed dat de militairen de macht in handen houden.

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Egypt's military rulers have set 21 November as the date for a vote for People's Assembly (lower house of parliament), the country's first poll since President Hosni Mubarak was ousted seven months ago, the head of the election commission said Saturday.

Abdel Moaez Ibrahim said voting for Shura Council – the upper house of parliament- will take place two months later on 22 January.

He said balloting for the People's Assembly will be held in three stages ending on 3 January.

Ibrahim’s statement comes few hours before a meeting between top members of the Military Council and leaders of several political parties.

The majority of Egypt’s parties advocate that elections should be held under the proportional representation system, vehemently rejecting the current parliamentary elections law which stipulates that half of the 508-seat parliament be elected through the individual candidacy system.

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Op zaterdag 17 september 2011 23:40 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Yousef Raouf Boutros Ghali is in Spanje gearresteerd en wordt naar Egypte gebracht. BAM!

Bron:
http://www.mjusticia.gob.(...)5383369/Detalle.html

Hij heeft al een gevangenisstraf van 20+ jaar ofzo op zich hangen.

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Op zondag 18 september 2011 01:50 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Niet te vroeg juichen. We wachten nog steeds op Salem.....

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Op zondag 18 september 2011 02:29 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Aha, dat verklaart.
Dit persbericht(?) is twee dagen oud, maar nog steeds niet opgepikt door de Egyptische media?

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Op vrijdag 16 september 2011 11:10 schreef Stephen_Dedalus het volgende:

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Als de wil van het volk gevolgd was dan was er al een tijd terug de oorlog aan Israel verklaard. Het is maar goed dat de militairen de macht in handen houden.

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Op zondag 18 september 2011 16:52 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Het volk wil geen oorlog met Isra�l, het wil simpelweg niet meer gebruikt worden als vuilnis door Amerika, Isra�l en de dictators.

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Op zondag 18 september 2011 17:08 schreef waht het volgende:

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Tja, dat is niet aan hen. Dat is aan de Egyptische legerleiding.

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The Cairo Criminal Court on Sunday sentenced police officer Tamer Sami Refaat to five years in prison for killing a female demonstrator in Nasr City on 28 January, during the revolution’s Friday of Anger.

Refaat was also ordered to pay LE10,000 in compensation.

This is the first verdict to be handed down for the killing of a protester during the 25 January revolution.

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A survey by the cabinet’s Information and Decision Support Center, published on Sunday, revealed that 58 percent of the sample said they would not vote for a president of a different religion than their own, while 36 percent said they would.

But the survey said that 60 percent said they would consider voting for candidates of a different religion in parliamentary elections, and 37 percent saying they would not.

It also said that 73 percent of Egyptians, Muslims and Christians, are religious and pray regularly.

The survey also found that 38 percent of the sample were willing to have friends of other religions, while 62 percent did not, 87 percent would not mind having a neighbor of a different religion, while 13 percent said they would, and 69 percent would buy from shop owners of other religions, while 31 percent would not.

It also said that 16 percent agree to omitting the reference of religion on ID cards, while 76 percent were against it, 82 percent believed the government does not differentiate between Muslims and Christians, while 25 percent said it responds more favorably to demands by Christians, and 24 percent said it does not appoint Christians to high posts, while 10 percent said it puts stifling conditions on the building of churches.

Concerning problems between Muslims and Christians, 78 percent said there were not any, while 19 percent said there were. Of these affirming the existence of sectarian problems, 50 percent claimed the existence of foreign elements were behind it, 43 percent blamed the former regime, while 9 percent blamed Muslims and 8 percent blamed Christians.

On political candidates endorsed by clerics, 65 percent said they would not be affected by a clerics’ opinion, 16 percent said they would consider it, and 14 percent said they would follow their cleric's recommendation.

On clerics running for political positions, 29 percent were in favor, 22 percent rejected it, and 5 percent were undecided.

On the Muslim Brotherhood, 25 percent said they support it, 25 percent said they were indifferent to it, and 21 percent said they were against it.

On Salafis, 41 percent partially believed the negative image of them portrayed in the media, 40 percent did not, and 5 percent said they have never heard of the Salafis before.

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Former MP Abdel Nasser al-Gabry died on Tuesday afternoon at the International Medical Center in Cairo, suffering from an advanced form of cancer.

Gabry was one of 25 Mubarak regime figures currently being tried for funding and planning a bloody attack by camel and horse riders on pro-democracy protesters on 2 February, during the 18-day uprising that ended the rule of former President Hosni Mubarak.

The assault was publicly known as the Battle of the Camel.

Gabry was arrested on 11 March when investigators discovered his reported involvement in the attack. He spent most of his detention in Tora prison, south of Cairo, but was later hospitalized in May when his health deteriorated.

Other defendants in the case include former People’s Assembly Speaker Fathi Sorour, former Shura Council Speaker Safwat al-Sherif, former Manpower and Immigration Minister Aisha Abdel Hady, and several former members of the previously-ruling National Democratic Party.

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Tomorrow there will be another million man protest at Tahrir square and unlike previous million protests there is a real consensus on its goals above them : Rejecting the emergency law.
Not only the emergency law is rejected but there are other demands that are related to the elections laws. Here are the demands most political groups and parties participating in the protest.
Ending the emergency law
Amending the elections law
Activating the treachery law to ban the remnants of NDP
Setting a date for presidency elections
Shorter timeline for power transition.
Ending the military trials for civilians
The participation will be high according to what see as many parties including the parties that stood against the million man protests in the past like El Wasat party.
According to my knowledge there is no agreement on sit ins. There will be rallies from mosques and Churches insh Allah. There will be also parallel protests across the country as well.
There are several names for this Friday yet the most common name is “End the emergency law” Friday.
Unsurprisingly the Muslim brotherhood , Islamic group and main Salafists groups have announced that they will not participate in the protest despite the MB is extremely angry from the elections law and is insisting on the closed proportional list. The Muslim brotherhood gave SCAF till the end of the month , here is the end of the month, I do not know what they do next.
I know some adrenaline junkies are dying for clashes tomorrow that would lead in to some Libyan or Yemeni Style because they believe our revolution will not achieve its goals without following these styles.
Of course Tantawy’s appearance in the civilian suit made many people angry and fear from military take over , that scene made me many people decide to join the protest tomorrow.
Anyhow there is a good thing in tomorrow’s protest ,more people are united on more goals.
A youth group called "The revolution Youth Federation" announced that it thinks in the sit in option and that 150 of its members who though of running for the parliament decided to boycott the elections.

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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2011 23:12 schreef Tourniquet het volgende:
Ik zit nu voor m'n werk in Cairo en de hele avond rijden er al auto's luid toeterend voorbij (nog meer dan anders ), met vlaggen uit de ramen. Het is moeilijk in te schatten wat er aan de hand is, maar de mensen lijken blij.

Edit: Zal hier wel mee te maken hebben: http://op.nu.nl/rhtRMU

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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2011 23:12 schreef Tourniquet het volgende:
Ik zit nu voor m'n werk in Cairo en de hele avond rijden er al auto's luid toeterend voorbij (nog meer dan anders ), met vlaggen uit de ramen. Het is moeilijk in te schatten wat er aan de hand is, maar de mensen lijken blij.

Edit: Zal hier wel mee te maken hebben: http://op.nu.nl/rhtRMU

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Op zaterdag 1 oktober 2011 23:24 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Hoe lang zit je er al en tot wanneer?

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Political forces sharply criticized the military council on Saturday following their exclusion from the meetings of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF). They said that most of the parties invited to the meetings were "cartoonish," and did not participate in the revolution.

Ahmed Drag, the coordinator of the National Assembly for Change, said the SCAF intended to invite certain parties that did not represent the people. These meetings were like "dictation classes" where the political forces scarcely talk and listen most of the time to military leaders, he said.

Drag said the demands of the revolution were already known and the parties had submitted them to the military council before.

The military leaders do not need someone to remind them of the demands, said Drag, adding that no single political faction has the right to negotiate away people's demands.

Ahmed Maher, the coordinator of April 6 Youth Movement, fiercely criticized the political parties that accepted the SCAF’s invitation, saying they were the same "cartoonish" parties that supported Safwat al-Sherief, former secretary general of the dissolved National Democratic Party, before the revolution. He added most of these parties used to attack the young protest movements before the revolution.

Salah Adly, chairman of the Communist Party, said the military rulers always, whenever pressed by protests, invite parties to meetings and later on do not implement demands agreed upon. He said the meetings were" useless."

Whenever we go for a meeting with the SCAF we find that half of the guests are former National Democratic Party members, said Essam Sultan vice president of Wasat Party, adding his party decided not to attend any SCAF meetings thereafter.

Ahmed Gebaily , chairman of Al-Shaab Party, criticized the SCAF meetings, saying they were "selective" and excluded many parties.

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Chaos in Cairo over Coptic protest

Violence erupts as Coptic Christians demonstrate outside state TV in protest against destruction of church in Aswan.

Hundreds of Coptic Christians demonstrating outside the state television building in central Cairo have clashed with locals as they protested against the destruction of a church in the southern Egyptian province of Aswan.

During Sunday's protest, led by several bishops, the demonstrators burnt photos of Mustafa al-Sayed, the governor of Aswan who had said that the church in the village of Marinap had been built illegally.

Al Jazeera's Rawya Rageh, reporting from Cairo, said "utter chaos" prevailed in the centre of the capital.

"It was supposed to be a peaceful protest, demanding that Coptic rights should be fulfilled. But it soon escalated into violence, with people on balconies pelting the demonstrators with stones, clearly disagreeing with the cause of the Coptic demonstrators."

The protesters demanded the governor be sacked and the church rebuilt.

Christians account for around 10 per cent of Egypt's 80-million-strong population. Tensions are not uncommon between them and the country's majority Muslims.

In March, 13 people were killed in sectarian clashes around the Cairo neighbourhood of Manshiyet Nasser, shortly after a church was torched in the village of Sol, south of the capital.

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Op maandag 26 september 2011 12:52 schreef rakotto het volgende:
58% of Egyptians reject president of another religion

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:29 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Is dat zo bijzonder dan? Net of de Amerikanen een president die moslim is zouden accepteren.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:30 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Ligt wel anders in Egypte, waar christenen immers al honderden jaren leven en een autochtoon onderdeel vormen van de cultuur.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:35 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Tsja, westerse landen hebben ook ruime ervaring met culturele diversiteit, toch accepteren wij net zo min een premier/president met een andere achtergrond.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:36 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Ja, ik kan me geen president voorstellen met een "andere achtergrond".

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Many People got shot infront of me.
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I am ok. I saw peopl get run over and get shot. I also saw an old veiled woman get smacked with a baton like me by military police.
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I got smacked with a baton on my back and then chased down the road. just jumped in a moving cab,
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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:45 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Zouden wij een Aboutaleb als MP accepteren?

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:48 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Wij? Wij wel.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:30 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Ligt wel anders in Egypte, waar christenen immers al honderdenbijna twee millenia leven en een autochtoon onderdeel vormen van de cultuur.de nazaten van de originele autochtone bewoners zijn.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:29 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Is dat zo bijzonder dan? Net of de Amerikanen een president die moslim is zouden accepteren.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:56 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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De volgende nieuwsberichten zijn ook niet bijzonder zeker?

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:45 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Zouden wij een Aboutaleb als MP accepteren?

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:55 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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Fixed.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 19:57 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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Zouden de Amerikanen een neger als president accepteren?

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:00 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Blijkbaar wel. Maar ik denk dat jij in tranen uit zou barsten als wij een MP zouden krijgen met een Marokkaanse achtergrond.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:08 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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Ligt eraan of hij in die onzin gelooft of gewoon een normaal, rationeel mens is.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:09 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Ok mensen, weer ontopic graag.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:11 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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Wanneer zijn die verkiezingen nou? En hoe sterk lijkt de MB te gaan worden?

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:14 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Kopten hebben een vergunning gekregen om een gebouw om te toveren in een kerk. Daar waren ze mee bezig en werd niet geaccepteerd door Wahabisten. De Wahabisten/Salafisten hebben het gebouw vernietigd.

De Kopten gingen protesteren tegen dit en toen zei de burgemeester dat hij geen vergunning heeft gegeven. De Kopten hebben de vergunning die ondertekend is door hem gepresenteerd en gingen protesteren om hem te onstlaan omdat hij liegt.

Eergisteren waren er dus protesten en werden de demonstranten massaal in elkaar geslagen etc. Zie mijn filmpje van een paar dagen terug.

Vandaag zijn ze verder gaan protesteren en is de Leger op de mensen gaan schieten. Echter, de prostesten bij Maspero zijn niet alleen door Kopten geleid, maar ook door Moslims. De leger heeft vandaag met scherp geschoten en de staatsTV moedigt mensen aan om de leger hulp aan te bieden tegen deze demonstranten.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:14 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Kopten hebben een vergunning gekregen om een gebouw om te toveren in een kerk. Daar waren ze mee bezig en werd niet geaccepteerd door Wahabisten. De Wahabisten/Salafisten hebben het gebouw vernietigd.

De Kopten gingen protesteren tegen dit en toen zei de burgemeester dat hij geen vergunning heeft gegeven. De Kopten hebben de vergunning die ondertekend is door hem gepresenteerd en gingen protesteren om hem te onstlaan omdat hij liegt.

Eergisteren waren er dus protesten en werden de demonstranten massaal in elkaar geslagen etc. Zie mijn filmpje van een paar dagen terug.

Vandaag zijn ze verder gaan protesteren en is de Leger op de mensen gaan schieten. Echter, de prostesten bij Maspero zijn niet alleen door Kopten geleid, maar ook door Moslims. De leger heeft vandaag met scherp geschoten en de staatsTV moedigt mensen aan om de leger hulp aan te bieden tegen deze demonstranten.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:17 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Het zal wel niet weer om een kerk gaan...... zuchtttttttttttttt

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:17 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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Het is wel de zoveelste keer dat Christenen aangevallen worden en dat kerken gesloopt worden sinds de revolutie. Het belooft allemaal niet veel goeds...

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:17 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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Het is wel de zoveelste keer dat Christenen aangevallen worden en dat kerken gesloopt worden sinds de revolutie. Het belooft allemaal niet veel goeds...

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:18 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Ze hebben het recht om te protesteren als hun kerk in de fik wordt gezet door de Wahabisten/Salafisten. Ze hebben vooral het recht om te protesteren tegen een leugenachtige burgemeester die of een lid van de NDP of een voormalige hoogofficier is geweest van de politie in het verleden.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:20 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Het is de 3de of 4de kerk die aangevallen is door Wahabisten/Salafisten. Zij vormen niet eens 2% van het hele bevolking daar in Egypte/

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:24 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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3e of 4e?

Dit waren er al 2: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13331628
Nog 1: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8444851.stm
Nog 1: http://blogs.cbn.com/glob(...)t-church-attack.aspx
Nog 1: http://articles.latimes.c(...)urch-attack-20110102

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:24 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:

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3e of 4e?

Dit waren er al 2: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13331628
Nog 1: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8444851.stm
Nog 1: http://blogs.cbn.com/glob(...)t-church-attack.aspx
Nog 1: http://articles.latimes.c(...)urch-attack-20110102

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:29 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Trouwens mensen. Vandaag heeft Tantawi de militaire berechtingen voor burgers geannuleerd en is dit niet meer mogelijk. Dit is dus duidelijk een set-u, want willen ze laten blijken dat het wel nodig is.

Momenteel zijn thugs onderweg naar Tahrir.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:41 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Wie heeft die 3 soldaten gedood dan?

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:46 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Paar thugs tussen de demonstranten kan heel goed werken.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 20:56 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ja, BiZa toen onder leiding van Al-Adly.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:06 schreef rakotto het volgende:
SalmaIhab Salma Ihab
#SCAF systematically ambushing private news agencies!This is reaaaaally bad! Freedoms flying out the window,total control coming up #maspero

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:04 schreef rakotto het volgende:
De SCAF wilt aan de macht blijven. Zij zijn een onderdeel van de Mubarak era. Hiermee kunnen ze de emergency law langer laten blijven en weer militaire berechtingen activeren wat vandaag is gedeactiveerd.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:12 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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De SCAF wilt zo snel mogelijk terug naar hun tenten, alleen het is gewoon onverantwoord om het land in deze chaos achter te laten.

Je hebt zelf de afgelopen vakantie gezien, hoe belangrijk het leger op straat is.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:14 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Niet in alex.

Enige leger dat er stond was bij de Saudische consulaat en de Libische ambassade in Alex. De leger heeft de touwtjes in handen. De afgelopen 60 jaar. Ze zijn nooit in de barakken geweest. Ze willen niet daar naartoe gaan en daarom gebeurt dit.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:24 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Het leger was duidelijk aanwezig bij grotere politie-operaties.

Mubarak en onderdanen waren aan de macht, het leger werdt koest gehouden met flinke sommen geld en luxury. Hoge piefen uit het leger hadden niets te zeggen hoor.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:32 schreef erik666 het volgende:
En hier in Krimpen aan de IJssel staat ook een kerk in brand, zou door een zwerver aangestoken zijn. Dat hebben ze snel achterhaald dan.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:28 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Nee dat hadden ze niet. Tantawi die werd aangewezen door Mubarak en houdt zijn post nu al 21 jaar. Dat werd gedaan nadat de vorige generaal tegen mubarak was. Aub zeg. Je weet zelf dat je geen hoge posities zomaar weggegeven werden in Egypte.

Mubarak is altijd een onderdeel geweest van de leger. Zie de vieringen van 6 oktober hoe opeens anders dat was vergeleken met de afgelopen 30 jaar.

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 21:32 schreef rakotto het volgende:
19 doden en 160 gewonden nu.

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Deadly Cairo clashes over Coptic protest

At least 12 people killed as violence erupts during Coptic Christian demonstration against destruction of a church.

At least 12 people have been killed and more than 20 others injured in riots that erupted in Cairo when Coptic Christians protested against the recent destruction of a church.

The Copts were demonstrating outside the state television building in central Cairo on Sunday when they clashed with locals, according to Egyptian state television.

Military vehicles were set on fire and thick black smoke rose along the Nile outside the state television building, the state-run station reported.

During the protest, led by several Coptic bishops, the demonstrators burnt photos of Mustafa al-Sayed, the governor of Aswan.

The Coptic church in Merinab village was attacked after al-Seyyed was reported as saying Copts had built it without the required planning permission, according to state television.

Al Jazeera's Rawya Rageh, reporting from Cairo, said "utter chaos" prevailed in the centre of the capital.

Rageh said: "It was supposed to be a peaceful protest, demanding that Coptic rights should be fulfilled. But it soon escalated into violence, with people on balconies pelting the demonstrators with stones, clearly disagreeing with the cause of the Coptic demonstrators."

The protesters demanded the governor be sacked and the church rebuilt.

Christians account for an estimated 10 per cent of Egypt's population of 80 million. Tensions are not uncommon between Copts and the country's majority Muslims.

In March, 13 people were killed in sectarian clashes around the Cairo neighbourhood of Manshiyet Nasser, shortly after a church was torched in the village of Sol, south of the capital.

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The protesters are not only Copts. There are Muslims present in the protests too and are talking active part in resisting the police and the army. There are ongoing battles as I’m writing now. The unifying chants in downtown Cairo is against the army and field marshal Tantawi. Protesters are chanting: “Muslims and Christians… One hand!” and “Death to the Field Marshal.

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HaraldDoornbos twitterde op zondag 09-10-2011 om 23:00:04 Groep moslims sluit zich aan bij demonstrerende christenen #Egypte: Moslims roepen: "moslims en christenen zijn een!":

مشاركه من مسلمين فى ماسبيرو و اخر مسلم بلطجى

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Op zondag 9 oktober 2011 23:32 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
En weer een avondklok.....

خاص الشروق ..جثث في مدخل مبنى قناة 25 ماسبيرو

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Psypherize Ahmad H. Aggour
Salafis in #Suez form popular committes to protect the churches there. I salute you. #Maspero
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Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 13:54 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:
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Minstens 24 doden bij protesten Egypte
Bij rellen tussen christelijke manifestanten en het leger in Ca�ro zijn in de nacht van zondag op maandag minstens 24 mensen gedood en werden er 200 gewond. De aanleiding was een manifestatie van koptische christenen na een aanval van moslims vorige week op een koptisch kerkje in de provincie Aswan. Volgens de christenen doen de autoriteiten te weinig tegen het geweld van de moslims.

De rellen duurden van 2 uur 's nachts tot 7 uur 's morgens. Er werden legervoertuigen in brand gestoken. De avondklok is intussen ingesteld en vandaag houdt de Egyptische regering een spoedvergadering.

"Ik zag burgers voorbij rennen voor mijn venster terwijl de militairen wildweg in de massa vuurden", aldus ooggetuige voor de BBC. Het leger schoot met rubberkogels en traangas. De duizenden manifestanten - voornamelijk maar niet allemaal christenen - trokken naar het gebouw van de staatstelevisie op het Maspero plein om er een sit-in te houden. Ze eisten het ontslag van de gouverneur van de provincie Aswan. Ze verwijten de staatsmedia ook om het geweld tegen christenen in de berichtgeving te minimaliseren.

De koptische christenen vertegenwoordigen 10 procent van de bevolking. De eerste minister Essam Sharaf riep de Egyptenaren op om niet deel te nemen aan deze "sektarische en fanatieke strijd". "Wat nu gebeurt zijn geen botsingen tussen moslims en christenen, maar pogingen om chaos en verdeeldheid te stichten", aldus Assam op zijn Facebookpagina.

Volgens getuigenissen van demonstranten werden zij eerst aangevallen door mensen in burgerkledij. Pas nadien zijn de manifestanten in de clinch gegaan met de ordestrijdkrachten.

Tijdens de manifestatie hebben ook ordinaire relschoppers zich bij de massa gevoegd. Dit is volgens waarnemers de laatste maanden steeds vaker het geval gezien het politiek vacu�m en de onduidelijkheid bij de veiligheidsdiensten.
Feitelijke discriminatie

In de voorbije maand mei zijn 12 mensen gestorven bij aanvallen op koptische kerken. In maart vielen er 13 slachtoffers bij rellen tussen moslims en christenen op het Tahrir plein. Op 28 november zijn er in Egypte verkiezingen, de eerste sinds het aftreden van president Mubarak.

De kopten worden in Egypte gediscrimineerd. Voor de bouw van kerken hebben ze telkens de uitdrukkelijke toestemming van de president nodig. Egypte erkent enkel bekeringen van christenen tot de islam maar niet andersom.

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Opnieuw rellen in Egypte
In Egypte zijn koptische christenen opnieuw slaags geraakt met politieagenten en militairen. Het geweld speelde zich af bij een Koptische kerk in Ca�ro waar de doden van gisteren werden herdacht.

Bij de bloedige rellen van zondag waren koptische christenen, moslims en ordetroepen betrokken. Er vielen 24 doden, vooral onder de kopten. Zeker 200 mensen raakten gewond. De politie verrichtte tientallen arrestaties.

De onlusten begonnen toen betogende kopten, die zich niet genoeg beschermd voelen, met stenen werden bekogeld door omstanders, vermoedelijk moslims. De betoging in Ca�ro liep helemaal uit de hand toen een pantservoertuig op betogers inreed.

De Koptische kerk heeft een rouwperiode van drie dagen afgekondigd.
Staatsveiligheid

Het conflict tussen kopten en moslims vormt volgens premier Essam Sharaf een bedreiging voor de staatsveiligheid. Op de staatstelevisie zei hij dat bepaalde groepen de vestiging van een moderne democratie willen verhinderen.

Volgens journalisten waren er juist veel moslims die het voor de kopten opnamen en keerden de twee groepen zich samen tegen de ordetroepen.

In Egypte is veel kritiek op de manier waarop de militaire machthebbers het land leiden sinds de val van Mubarak.

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Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 17:41 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Video dat laat zien dat de leger begonnen is en dat het geen sectarische geweld is zoals de meesten hier willen doen geloven.

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Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 17:02 schreef Zienswijze het volgende:
Geef de Kopten een eigen land, net zoals de Palestijnen willen.

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Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 18:14 schreef SemperSenseo het volgende:

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Ehh, de kopten woonden al 1700 jaar in Egypte, dat kun je van de Arabieren in het gehele midden-oosten (behalve een paar stammen in het schiereiland) niet zeggen.

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Op maandag 10 oktober 2011 18:14 schreef SemperSenseo het volgende:

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Ehh, de kopten woonden al 1700 jaar in Egypte, dat kun je van de Arabieren in het gehele midden-oosten (behalve een paar stammen in het schiereiland) niet zeggen.

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Egypt’s finance minister resigns over protests

Hazem al-Beblawi, the Egyptian finance minister, has resigned in protest at the authorities’ handling of demonstrations on Sunday which resulted in the deaths of 25 people.

An aide to the minister confirmed that Mr Biblawi, who is also deputy prime minister, tendered his resignation on Tuesday morning.

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Op dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 15:56 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 19:19 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Het leger heeft zijn ontslag afgewezen.

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Op dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 19:23 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Ze houden hem als slaaf?

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'De revolutie is islamitisch geworden'
^{EDUARD PADBERG | CA�RO − 11/10/11, 10:02}



Het daglicht heeft de chaos van de nacht ervoor verdrongen. Wat rest zijn woede, angst en verslagenheid. Negen maanden na de opstand waarbij (ex-) president Moebarak werd afgezet, en vier maanden sinds het vorige grote incident, is het geweld tussen christenen en moslims opnieuw opgelaaid. Minstens 24 mensen kwamen om en honderden demonstranten raakten gewond in de grootste opleving van geweld sinds het einde van de revolutie.

Het leger maakte door te schieten en door met tanks op de menigte in te rijden een einde aan een protest van de christenen. De demonstratie, waar ook moslims aan deelnamen, was een protest tegen het gebrekkige optreden van het leger naar aanleiding van drie grote gewelddadige incidenten afgelopen maand tegen christenen.

De incidenten hebben tot grote paniek geleid in de Koptische gemeenschap, die ongeveer tien procent van de Egyptische bevolking (83 miljoen) uitmaakt. "De revolutie is een islamitische revolutie geworden", meent Samir Hani, een Koptische computeringenieur uit Ca�ro.

Aan geen van de beloften die het leger naar aanleiding van de vorige protesten deed, is voldaan. "Het leger doet niets om de christenen te beschermen", gaat Hani verder. "De moslims bedreigen ons, dwingen christelijke vrouwen een hoofddoek te dragen en steken onze kerken in brand."

De christenen, en de jeugd die de revolutie begon, zijn het vertrouwen helemaal kwijt in het leger dat na de val van Moebarak de macht overnam. "Dit is het ware gezicht van het leger", stelt Mohamed Redda, een jonge activist. "Ze cre�ren een sektarisch conflict om aan de macht te blijven."

Ook de staatstelevisie bewees tijdens de ongeregeldheden zich niets te hebben aangetrokken van de idealen van de revolutie. "Het enige verschil is dat het nu de propaganda van het leger verkondigt", zegt Redda. De escalatie van de rellen is volgens velen geheel te wijten aan de omroepers die verkondigden dat de christenen het leger aanvielen en alle 'eerbare burgers' opriepen het leger te hulp te schieten. Duizenden moslims beantwoordden de oproep.

Groepen bewapende moslims vielen de betogers, die hulp kregen van de revolutionaire jeugdgroepen, aan en plunderden christelijke winkels. In de binnenstad waren tijdens de 'Egyptische Kristallnacht' de hele nacht islamistische leuzen te horen.

Hoewel het grootste deel van de moslims het geweld afkeurt, is een mate van jaloezie en afkeer tegen christenen gemeengoed. "Die christenen maken altijd problemen", klaagt een automobilist die door het protest in de file staat. "Ze willen overal kerken bouwen. Dit is een islamitisch land. Dat ze geld hebben betekent nog niet dat ze zomaar kunnen doen wat ze willen."

Sommige christelijke groepen gaan verder. Koptisch advocaat Naguib Gabriel noemt het geweld tegen christenen "een systematisch beleid van etnische zuivering". De organisatie waar Gabriel voorzitter van is, bracht onlangs een rapport uit waarin werd gesteld dat 93.000 Kopten sinds de revolutie zijn ge�migreerd.

Joesef Sidhom, hoofdredacteur van de christelijke krant Al-Watani ('Mijn Thuisland'), heeft naar aanleiding van het onderzoek een eigen peiling gedaan bij de ambassades, waaruit blijkt dat 'niet meer dan 10.000' Kopten het land hebben verlaten. "Er is zeker reden om bezorgd te zijn", meent Sidhom. "Maar Gabriel is een extremist. Zijn doel is om paniek te zaaien. Hij hoopt op buitenlandse interventie. Maar ondertussen heeft hij grote schade toegebracht aan de christelijke gemeenschap." De staatstelevisie gooide tijdens de rellen olie op het vuur door te zeggen dat de Amerikaanse minister van buitenlandse zaken Hillary Clinton zou hebben gezegd soldaten naar Egypte te sturen om de christenen te beschermen

De connectie met het westen, en het geld dat daaruit volgt, wordt de Egyptische christenen vaak kwalijk genomen. Het geweld werd door het leger en de Egyptische premier toegeschreven aan 'de verborgen hand' en 'buitenlandse machten'.

Sidhom is hoopvol dat de gemoederen tussen moslims en christenen zullen bedaren als er een democratie in Egypte ontstaat. Hij is niet bang dat moslimextremisten aan de macht komen. "Het lukt de extremisten niet om hun agenda te camoufleren. Het wordt steeds duidelijker wat ze echt van plan zijn; het invoeren van een speciale belasting voor christenen, het banksysteem afschaffen en vervangen door islamitisch bankieren, toeristen verbieden alcohol te drinken, en islamitische kledingvoorschriften voor iedereen instellen. Voor het overgrote deel van de bevolking gaan die maatregelen te ver."

Sara Amin Tamoen, priester in de St. Barbara kerk in Koptisch Ca�ro, is daar nog niet zo zeker van. "Ze mogen ons niet. Er is niet veel voor nodig om dat gevoel uit te buiten." Het wijdverbreide analfabetisme (40 procent) en de penibele staat van het onderwijs in Egypte bieden volgens de priester een rijke voedingsbodem voor extremisme. "Zonder onderwijs is democratie onmogelijk. De extremisten kopen simpelweg stemmen met een boterham of een fooi."

Volgens Tamoen zijn christenen de zondebok voor het falen van de rest van het land. "Wij zorgen voor elkaar. We hebben goede scholen en runnen schone ondernemingen."

Dat veel christenen bang zijn en Egypte willen verlaten, verbaast Tamoen niets. "Ik weet niet hoeveel christenen al zijn vertrokken. Maar ��n ding is zeker; als ze de mogelijkheid zouden hebben, zouden heel veel christenen uit Egypte weggaan."

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Leger Egypte ontkent gebruik geweld tijdens rellen

Het Egyptische leger verdedigt het optreden tijdens de rellen in Kairo van afgelopen zondag. Bij de onlusten vielen 25 doden en honderden gewonden.

Daarnaast ontkent het leger met scherp geschoten te hebben of militaire voertuigen gebruikt te hebben om demonstranten omver te rijden. Dat heeft generaal Mahmoud Hegazy van de Militaire Raad, die het land bestuurt sinds de val van president Hosni Mubarak, verklaard. Dat meldt persbureau Reuters.

Het was de grootste uitbarsting van geweld in Egypte sinds het aftreden van Mubarak. Activisten en artsen beschuldigen het leger van het gebruik van overmatig geweld. Volgens Hegazy zou het leger nooit het vuur openen op burgers.

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Op woensdag 12 oktober 2011 23:02 schreef Aether het volgende:
Egyptisch leger speelt vies spel
Afgelopen weekend werd Egypte opgeschrikt door het ergste geweld sinds de Egyptische revolutie van 25 januari jl. Na aanleiding van een afgebrande kerk in Edfu (een zuidelijk plaatsje nabij Aswan) begin vorige week, waren Koptische christenen afgelopen zondag massaal naar Tahrir gestroomd om te demonstreren tegen het continue geweld dat de Koptische gemeenschap in Egypte al decennialang in een angstige wurggreep houdt. In de chaotische weken na de revolutie was er een plotselinge geweldsoplading waar veel Kopten het slachtoffer van werden. De Kopten zijn een christelijke minderheid die zo’n 10% van de Egyptische bevolking uitmaakt. Ook mijn familie en ik zijn Kopt. En als geen ander ken ik de angst van mijn familieleden en vrienden, die Mubarak’s regime weliswaar verafschuwden, maar nog banger zijn voor het oprukkende extremisme, de machtige Moslimbroederschap en de groeiende zichtbaarheid van de Salafisten.

De interim-regering onder leiding van Sharaf en de militaire raad van Tantawi beloofden de christenen beter te beschermen. Maar hier is niets van waar. Sterker nog, het waren voornamelijk de pantservoertuigen van het Egyptische leger die de 32 doden en meer dan 270 gewonden veroorzaakten.

Vrijwel direct na de gewelddadige onlusten van zondagavond werden op het internet filmpjes geplaatst waarop duidelijk te zien is hoe het leger gericht op christenen schiet en hen omver rijdt. Wat ook te zien is, is dat er niet alleen Kopten demonstreerden. Moslimbroeders, studenten, liberalen, ja zelfs Salafisten hadden zich bij de demonstraties aangesloten om te protesteren tegen wat zij ‘het verraad van de revolutie’ noemen. De belofte dat christenen beter zouden worden beschermd is niet de enige die de militaire raad niet is nagekomen. Van de toegezegde hervormingen, meer politieke vrijheid, broodnodige investeringen en andere revolutionaire eisen is nog niets waar gemaakt.

Het legeroptreden leidde tot een massale woede-uitbarsting in Cairo en de rest van Egypte en tot nieuwe demonstraties afgelopen maandagavond. De militaire raad kondigde onmiddellijk een ‘grootschalig onderzoek’ af, maar de beelden spreken voor zich. Het leger is niet de vriend van de Kopten. Het leger is eigenlijk, misschien, de vriend van niemand.

Tijdens en de eerste dagen na de revolutie werd het leger als de verlosser omarmd. Geen Caireen die geen foto wilde met een soldaat, op of naast de tank, en vrouwen omhelsden de mannen in uniform alsof het hun eigen zonen waren. Maar afgelopen zomer ontstonden er barsten in de liefdevolle relatie tussen leger en volk. Het pluche zat de soldaten iets te comfortabel.
‘Waarom gaan ze niet terug naar hun barakken?’ werd de steeds luidere vraag. ‘Is Mubarak vervangen door een raad? Nu hebben we niet een maar wel tien Mubaraks!’
Het leger lijkt z’n eigen politieke agenda met Egypte te hebben. Salafisten en van terrorisme verdachte moslimextremisten werden dit voorjaar massaal vrijgelaten. Verbannen fanatici werden met open armen op Cairo Airport omarmd.

Bij steeds meer Egyptenaren ontstaat het gevoel dat het leger het op een akkoordje heeft gegooid met de machtigste oppositiegroep in Egypte, de Il-Ikwan al-Muslimin of de Moslimbroederschap die voor het eerst legaal aan de verkiezingen mee zal mogen doen (zij het zonder religieuze noemer). In ruil voor politieke participatie en mogelijke verkiezingswinst, zal het leger met rust worden gelaten. Dat is namelijk net zo besmeurd door corruptie als alle andere overheidsorganen en daarom absoluut niet gebaat bij een grondige democratische schoonmaak van het systeem.

Anders dan veel analisten denken, stevent Egypte niet af naar het Turkse model om de simpele reden dat het Egyptische leger, anders dan de Turkse, niet seculier is. Eerder verwacht ik een omgekeerd Turks model, Egypte wordt een islamitisch-liberale staat waarbij het leger de islamitische waarden van het land zal beschermen. Sinds de oprichting van de Moslimbroederschap in 1928 heeft zij in de talentenpoel van de betere kordons van het leger gevist. Ook hebben de Moslimbroeders enorm veel aanhang onder de arme plattelandsbevolking, de jonge jongens die op achttienjarige leeftijd massaal in dienst gaan. De rijkere Egyptenaren weten de dienstplicht af te kopen, maar voor de arme bevolking is dit onmogelijk en is het leger traditioneel een van de weinige manieren om op te klimmen op de sociale ladder.

Waarom het leger de Koptische demonstraite zo massaal onderdrukte heeft verschillende redenen. Een is de simpele maar pijnlijke waarheid dat het doodrijden van christenen veel minder gevolgen heeft dan het doodrijden van moslims. Zouden Salafisten massaal zijn neer geknuppeld dan was de wereld te klein. De Kopten sluiten zich echter rouwend op in hun kerken en hebben een nationale driedagenlange vastenperiode afgekondigd. Maar er zijn ook andere motieven. Na de revolutie kondigde het leger de noodtoestand af die na zes maanden zou worden opgeheven. Dit is nog niet gebeurd en het leger lijkt niet van plan dit op korte termijn te doen. De geweldsuitbarsting van afgelopen zondagavond is een nieuw excuus de noodtoestand (en daarmee de ijzeren greep op de samenleving) te verlengen. Onder de noodtoestand kunnen critici van het militaire regime voor zogenoemde militaire tribunalen worden geleid en via snelrecht naar de eerste beste gevangenis worden afgevoerd. Zo is al een heel aantal toonaangevende bloggers het zwijgen opgelegd.

Afgelopen maanden lekten documenten uit waaruit bleek dat de aanslag op de Koptische kerk in Alexandri� tijdens Oudjaarsnacht door het Minister van Binnenlandse Zaken en Kamel Mubarak, de zoon van ex-dictator Hosni Mubarak, zelf gestaged was. Het was een listige truc om de wereld te laten zien dat de Egyptische christenen zonder de beschermende hand van Mubarak reddeloos verloren zijn. Ook beoogde de regering meer geld bij de Amerikanen op te halen. Washington heeft zo z’n ‘global war on terror’-potjes. Afgelopen weekend liet zien dat hoewel Mubarak gevallen is, zijn kliek er nog steeds zit en dezelfde tactieken gebruikt. Maar de Egyptenaren zijn niet langer verblind. Zelfs de passieve teruggetrokken Koptische gemeenschap laat nu van zich horen. Met kruizen en afbeeldingen van Jezus en Maria gingen ze de straat op en zullen ze weer de straat op gaan. Egypte zal nog een heel aantal onrustige maanden doormaken. De slag om de revolutie is nog immer niet beslecht.

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Op donderdag 13 oktober 2011 22:46 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Het hele artikel klopt bijna wel, behalve dat stukje dat ik vet gedrukt heb. De schrijver vergeet namelijk de sluwe spelletjes die de leger speelt heeft gespeeld in de afgelopen paar maanden. In die sluwe spelletjes zijn er veel doden gevallen.

Een protest was hard neergeslagen op bijna dezelfde manier (Behalve van het doodrijden) en werd gewoon snel koest gehouden. Tijdens een protest door veel Egyptenaren die in Tahrir waren zijn er veel naar de Abbassia-kantoor gegaan. Daar werden ze aangevallen door ingehuurde tuig waar er doden bij zijn gevallen. Er zijn nog tien andere voorbeelden waarbij doden zijn gevallen.

Wat Aloulou al zei, deze leger is hetzelfde als ieder ander leger in de regio. Ze willen de macht behouden en zullen het niet makkelijk doorgeven aan burgers, want ze hebben immers de macht al 60 jaar in handen.

Waar de Egyptische leger op speelt is de verdeel en heers strategie. Ze hebben geprobeerd om de politieke partijen de verdelen en willen de mensen nu ook verdelen door divisies te cre�ren tussen Moslims en Christenen.

Bij beide kanten heb je fanatiekelingen, maar gelukkig niet genoeg om iedereen te beinvloeden. Tot nu toe gaat het goed en wilt iedereen nu van de leger af in Egypte.

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Op vrijdag 14 oktober 2011 06:40 schreef SemperSenseo het volgende:

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Jouw conclusie is niet wat ik geheel lees in het artikel, alhoewel die een beetje warrig is opgeschreven. Wat ik lees is:

• De Kopten verafschuwen weliswaar het voormalig Mubarak’s regime en het leger nu nog, maar zijn nog banger zijn voor het oprukkende extremisme, de machtige Moslimbroederschap en de groeiende zichtbaarheid van de Salafisten.
• De Kopten rekenden op bescherming door het leger tegen het oprukkende moslimextremisme, maar kregen die niet. Eerder het tegenovergestelde.
• Bij steeds meer Egyptenaren ontstaat het gevoel dat het leger het op een akkoordje heeft gegooid met de machtigste oppositiegroep in Egypte, de Il-Ikwan al-Muslimin.
• Het leger staat aan de kant van de moslim fundamentalisten en behandelt de christenen meer en meer als tweederangs burgers.
• Egypte stevent af op een islamitische staat waarbij het leger de islamitische waarden van het land zal beschermen.

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De kopten worden in Egypte gediscrimineerd. Voor de bouw van kerken hebben ze telkens de uitdrukkelijke toestemming van de president nodig. Egypte erkent enkel bekeringen van christenen tot de islam maar niet andersom.

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Authorities began accepting candidates’ applications on Wednesday in advance of Egypt’s first parliamentary elections after the February ouster of longstanding president Hosni Mubarak.
The day witnessed a large turnout of candidates competing for individual seats. There was also a large turnout of former members of Mubarak’s now-defunct National Democratic Party (NDP) running for individual seats in several governorates.

A total of 1325 candidates have so far registered, both for the upper and lower houses of parliament. According to new elections laws, one third of the seats in parliament will be reserved for individual candidates, while two thirds will be based on electoral lists.

The Cairo-based Egyptian Organization for Human Rights estimated that no less than 50 per cent of the candidates that registered for candidacy on Wednesday were former NDP members.

Political parties and activists have repeatedly called on the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) to implement a “treason law” aimed at banning former NDP members from participating in any political activity for at least a five-year period.

According to an agreement hammered out two weeks ago between the SCAF and 13 political parties, the council would “study” the possibility of applying such a law.

At a public conference earlier this month, former NDP members from Upper Egypt and the Sinai Peninsula threatened to mobilize some 15 million supporters if such a law was applied.

Ex-NDP members have reportedly applied for both individual candidacies and as members of party lists. Several licensed parties have been accused of including ex-NDP members on their lists, including the Al-Hurreya Party and the Union Party.

The socialist Popular Alliance party announced its withdrawal from the Egyptian Bloc electoral list because others parties in the coalition insisted on including ex-NDP members on their electoral lists.

The Democratic Alliance, which groups together 25 political parties including the influential Muslim Brotherhood's Justice and Freedom Party (JFP), has not yet announced its final plan for elections.

Meanwhile, the Salafist Asala Party has announced its withdrawal from the Democratic Alliance because only four of its 50 proposed candidates were chosen for inclusion in the alliance’s electoral lists.

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In a large press conference held Thursday afternoon, multiple civilian eyewitnesses recounted to reporters what they saw on the night of 9 October, when a peaceful march of thousands of Coptic and Muslims protesters, which was headed towards the TV headquarters at Maspero near Tahrir square to demand equal rights for Egypt’s 8 million Christians, turned into deadly clashes with the military police, leaving behind 24 protesters dead, 329 injured and a divided and confused public.
The headquarters of Tahrir daily newspaper in the Dokki district of Cairo, where the press conference was held, bustled since the morning hours with press members and activists trying to squeeze into the event to hear first-hand testimonies from survivors of "Bloody Sunday".

In order to resolve the congestion, organizers set up two simultaneous press conferences in adjacent offices at the paper’s headquarters, with different eyewitnesses speaking in each.

The conference was organized byThe Revolution Youth Coalition, the Workers Democratic Party, The Popular Committees to defend the revolution, Revolutionary Socialists, the Popular Socialist Alliance Party, No to Military Trials Campaign, and the National Front for Freedom and Justice.

Activists called the event and prepared for it in less than 24 hours of an international press conference the ruling military council (SCAF) held on Wednesday to present the army’s side of what happened on 9 October in front of the TV building to a divided public opinion.

SCAF members who spoke at the press conference on Wednesday read statements and showed reporters photos and videos that allegedly prove the military did not fire at the peaceful protest, and that military vehicles could not have "intentionally" run over the protesters that night as survivors and eyewitnesses have said.

SCAF generals at their press conference also charged that protesters were armed, and asserted that the military police only carried anti-riot gear, and no live ammunition, at Maspero.

Rights lawyer Rajia Omran, one of the conference organizers and a member of No to Military Trials campaign, opened the conference by reading a press release signed by 17 political parties and movements, as well as 12 public figures.

The statement strongly rejected the violence used by security and military forces in the protest, describing the incident as a "full-fledged conspiracy" by SCAF against peaceful protesters.

The press statement called for an end to SCAF's rule of Egypt, and the formation of a new transitional government with "absolute jurisdiction".

It also called for the immediate prosecution of the perpetrators of the Maspero massacre, the elimination of state control over the media, and the resolution of longstanding Coptic grievances by issuing laws that grant them equal rights.

First to speak was Magda Adly, head of El-Nadeem Rehabilitation Centre for Victims of Torture.

Adly had attended the autopsy of eight of the bodies of those killed on “Bloody Sunday” at the Coptic Hospital on the night of the protest.

Describing the autopsy results, Adly saidsix of the eight corpses were run over by "heavyweight vehicles", and two received "excessive" gunshots.’

"The autopsy report was written in front of me. I just hope that would be the same report that will be submitted to the Prosecutor General at the end of the day," Adly added.

Tony Sabry, a friend of Mina Danial, a Copt and a well-known Tahrir revolutionary, who was killed in the clashes, gave his account.

Sabry said he personally saw a body being thrown into the water of Nile by military police soldiers.

Sabry said he also witnessed the moment Mina was killed.

"He received a bullet from the front and one from the back", he said.

The following speaker, Assem Kandil, one of the lawyers of some of January 25th revolution martyrs in the Mubarak murder trial underway in Egyptian courts, said he and a number of his coworkers were in their office in a building next to Maspero when the clashes began.

"We heard the gunfire from our office at the sixth floor, so I called the emergency police, and they said they were already informed of the incident," Kandil recalled.

"A number of soldiers, or people dressed as soldiers of the central security forces and the military police, stormed the building and started breaking the glass on the floor windows, then they proceeded to break doors.

“They asked residents in other apartments for ID in order to find out their religion," he added.

"After they left, we started seeing dead bodies being transferred into the building by protesters," he concluded.

Max Soliman, another witnesses, started his testimony by showing a number of videos on a laptop screen, and explained where and when he shot the footage.

The first video showed military soldiers penetrating the protest, firing what he said he could confirm as live ammunition at the unarmed protesters.

The second video showed one of the military soldiers boasting to a group of people who were aiding the military police on the ground: "I killed two of those infidels" referring to Copts who were in the protest. The helpers responded victoriously with the chant "Allah Akbar" or God is great.

None of the videos that Soliman showed revealed any protesters carrying weapons as SCAF claimed in its press conference on Wednesday.

Soliman asserted that the footage was recorded off television with a cell-phone camera.

“No one can claim they were edited" he insisted.

An anchor in one of two Satellite TV channels located adjacent to the state TV building, which were stormed by the security and military police during the hours of the clashes on Sunday attended the conference to give his testimony.

Hossam Haddad of 25 January Channel said a central security officers accompanied by military police, stormed his station’s offices and told the crew they were looking for rioters.

"They asked for our IDs, and a central security officer kicked one of our cameramen in the face as soon as he read on his ID card that he was Christian."

"They raised their guns on our anchor, an eight-months pregnant woman, who was in the midst of presenting live coverage of the protests and clashes and ordered live coverage must be immediately halted.”

Another protester, Safeya Abdallah, a Muslim girl who was in the protest, said some protesters did beat up an army driver who was commandeering a military Armoured Personal Carrier (APC) and burned the vehicle, as SCAF said, but only after demonstrators saw that APC run over a fellow unarmed protester twice.

As she spoke, Safeya held in her hand a live bullet that she said was taken from the ammunition belt of one of the military soldiers.

"We saw the military soldiers smash those private cars SCAF said we smashed. We did not smash them. However, we did burn them after the soldiers had smashed them in order to prevent APC’s from getting to us," she said.

“The Copts did not burn down the army’s vehicles. Muslim supporters did it to protect everyone," she added.

An elderly woman, who is known among activists as one of the "revolutionary mothers", also gave a testimony of what she witnessed.

“We were sitting at a caf� near Tahrir with a group of young activists when we heard of the clashes taking place at Maspero. On our way to Maspero, we saw central security trucks loaded with bricks and stones,” she said.

Mohamed El-Zayatt, a Muslim who joined the protest, said a fellow protester who found him marching alone at the beginning of the peaceful march held his hand in a comradely gesture and the two strolled together demanding equality for Copts.

“ When the shooting started the man took a bullet in his head. Two or Three people helped me attempt to carry my companion away, but then we saw an APC charging at us at a very high speed, as if it was being driven by a drunkard, so we had to drop the wounded man and run to protect our own lives" El-Zayatt said with a guilty tone.

The last speaker at the conference was Gamila Ismail, a journalist and former state TV presenter, who focused on slamming state TV for its bias against Copts and uncritical support for SCAF.

Ismail told the crowd said she believes the government brought back the post of the minister of information last July after it was abolished in March in order to put state media at the service of SCAF.

She added that one of the State TV presenters, who was accused of inciting people against Copts during the live coverage of the protest, confessed after a wave of public criticism that news bulletins covering the clashes that night were actually written by a military official from SCAF.

Gamila also charged that former state security officers might have been providing paid thugs to back up military police at clashes with peaceful protesters, as they, she asserted, did on "Bloody Sunday"..

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Honderden Egyptenaren hebben vrijdag een protestmars gehouden van de belangrijkste moskee in de hoofdstad Ca�ro naar een koptische kathedraal. Ze wilden daarmee de eenheid tussen koptische christenen en islamieten duidelijk maken. Eerder deze week braken bloedige rellen uit, waarbij kopten en het Egyptische leger betrokken waren.

Een groep mensen gooide bij de Al-Azhar-moskee stenen naar de betogers. De demonstranten lieten zich echter niet van de wijs brengen en liepen gewoon door. De betogers scandeerden leuzen gericht tegen veldmaarschalk Hussein Tantawi, de voorzitter van de regerende Opperste Militaire Raad.

Tantawi is steeds meer het mikpunt van de woede van de demonstranten nu de overgang naar een democratie in Egypte moeizaam verloopt. Het wantrouwen tussen pro-democratische actievoerders en de militaire raad is na de rellen van afgelopen week alleen maar toegenomen.

Bij de onlusten kwamen 26 mensen om het leven, grotendeels kopten die protesteerden tegen een aanval op een kerk in het zuiden van Egypte. De kopten, die ongeveer tien procent van de Egyptische bevolking uitmaken, zeggen zich behandeld te voelen als tweederangs burgers. Ze zijn bovendien woedend dat aanslagen op kopten vrijwel onbestraft blijven.

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Doctors’ Syndicate elections on Friday ended the Muslim Brotherhood’s nearly three decade-long monopoly of the syndicate, with candidates opposing the Islamist group doing especially well in the syndicate’s provincial branches.

Election results showed that the Doctors for Egypt list, representing the Brotherhood, lost control of the national syndicate’s board. The Brotherhood-backed list took 18 of the board’s 24 seats.

Doctors went to the polls on Friday to elect the syndicate’s, general and provincial syndicates seats in 27 governorates.

Khairy Abdel Dayem, a Brotherhood candidate, defeated 22 candidates to become head of the syndicate. He will replace Hamdy al-Sayed, who held the position since 1978. Abdel Dayem is not a member of the Islamist group.

Nonetheless, representatives of the Independence list, which opposed the Brotherhood, say they are happy with the results, especially their performance in the governorate branches, where they took control of the boards in 14 of Egypt’s 27 governorates.

“This not a small victory, since the newly formed Independence list has won a landslide victory in half Egypt’s governorate,” said Mona Mina, a leading member of the Independence list who was elected to the syndicate’s board on Friday.

The Independence list is made up of members of the reformist groups Doctors Without Rights (DWR) and the Tahrir Square Doctors group, as well as independent figures.

Mohamed Hisham, a judge and the head of the judicial committee supervising the Syndicate election, said in a press conference Sunday that the polls were fair despite some irregularities.

This is the syndicate’s first free election in 19 years after the judicial custody froze all electoral action within the syndicate. The incumbent syndicate board had served since activity within the syndicate was frozen.

“Before these elections, the Brotherhood used to have full monopoly over the syndicate. They used it as a platform for religious propaganda. The results, especially in the provincial syndicate seats, have proven that they’ve suffered a great lost in this election,” said Iman Yehia, a professor at the Faculty of Medicine of Suez University.

Unofficial figures suggest that Christians constitute 20 to 25 percent of the total doctors in Egypt.

The Brotherhood, according to Yahiya, managed to keep Christian doctors away from the syndicate and turn it into a preaching center.

“The Brotherhood also, benefiting from their control over the syndicate, managed to allocate even the administrative posts in the syndicate to their sympathizers,” said Yahiya.

In Cairo provincial syndicate, the Brotherhood lost 14 out of 16 seats to the Independence list but the head of the provincial syndicate will still come from the group.

The results were more dramatic in Alexandria, where the Independence list achieved a landslide victory, wining ten out of 12 seats and won the election for provincial syndicate head.

In Suez, where the Muslim Brotherhood has long played a strong role, the group failed to garner a single seat. In Ismailia, the Brotherhood lost the majority of seats.

Earlier on Sunday, Egypt’s papers claimed that the Brotherhood won a landslide victory in the elections but the Independence list said in a statement that the coverage was biased.

“We’re observing an organized propaganda campaign that wants to overlook the truth and show that the Brotherhood achieved an absolute victory in the elections. The Brotherhood lost 70 percent of provincial syndicate seats,” said the statement.

Verbal clashes erupted between candidates in the press conference. They contested the formal result issued by Judge Mohamed Hisham.

The judge confirmed that the elections were fair, even though some contested electoral boxes were deemed invalid. “But this cancelation didn’t affect the total results,” said Hisham.

However, Khaled Samir, a candidate of the Independence list said that he would file a complaint against the committee supervising the elections because of the irregularities that dominated some provincial syndicate elections.

“We [the Independence list] have won 70 percent of the provincial syndicates seats. How come this percent didn’t affect seats the syndicate general counsel, where the Brotherhood controlled 75 percent of its seats?” Samir said.

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A little more than a month before voting is set to begin and five days after candidates began registering their campaigns, the High Election Committee clarified some of the laws governing the upcoming parliamentary elections, but still left some important questions unanswered.

Local NGOs will be allowed to monitor the election after submitting a request to the National Council for Human Rights, a semi-governmental organization, Abdel Moez Ibrahim, the head of the committee said. The registered NGOs will be allowed to inspect ballot boxes inside polling stations.

International NGOs that wish to monitor the election however must submit their requests to unspecified “sovereign entities,” according to Ibrahim. Before backtracking, the ruling military council announced in July that it would not allow foreign election monitors.

Judges will also monitor the election, as they have in the past, Ibrahim said.

“Judicial monitoring is a revolutionary request,” he said.

“I trust SCAF and the Ministry of Interior in terms of the security of the elections,” said Ibrahim.

Many analysts and political forces worry that the elections could be marred by violence. Previous elections saw clashes between supporters of opposing candidates, particularly in areas dominated by tribal affiliations. The recent violence at Maspero, in which at least 28 people died, has raised additional fears about safety during the elections.

Ibrahim failed to clarify whether or not Egyptians living out of the country will be allowed to vote, dismissing this issue as beyond the scope of his committee. He also said the cabinet must ask for the committee's opinion about the Treachery Law, a law that could be used to keep members of the former ruling party from being in the next government. However, the cabinet does not need to take the High Election Committee's opinion into account when deciding whether or not it will enforce the law.

The committee, which is responsible for coordinating logistics during the election as well as enforcing electoral laws, also announced a set of rules governing how candidates will campaign.

Candidates cannot spend more than LE500,000 on campaigning in their districts, Ibrahim said, and are limited to LE250,000 during any run-off elections. All candidates will have equal air time on state TV, Ibrahim said.

Candidates will not be able to use universities, places of worship, public spaces, public money or religious slogans for their campaigns.

These regulations will apply to candidates running for the list-based seats as well as those running for the seats open to individual candidates. Ibrahim also announced that the deadline for application of candidacy has been extended until 22 October. Submissions were previously set to end on 19 October.

Ibrahim also announced that the High Electoral Committee plans to enforce the electoral participation law as amended by SCAF earlier this month. This includes an LE500 fine for anyone eligible to vote who fails to show up at the polls. Ibrahim said their names will be passed on to the general prosecutor.

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Mahmoud Salem, a loud, sarcastic character who self-identifies as a "new media douchebag," is best known by his Twitter handle: Sandmonkey.

On Monday he announced he's running for Egypt's parliament as an independent candidate. His mission: Finish the revolution he and other Egyptians started.

Candidate registration for the first parliamentary election in Egypt after the January uprising is now in full swing. The election is scheduled for Nov. 28.

The future Parliament will produce a Constituent Assembly to draft a new Constitution, and Salem says this is a main driver of his campaign.

"We need people in there to fight and make sure it doesn't become another piece of paper," he said.

Salem has used blog, "Rantings of a Sandmonkey," to advance concrete policy proposals, including his own draft for a Bill of Rights and a slew of ideas for the economy.

As might be expected from someone who spends a lot of his time blogging policy proposals and analysis, Salem's platform is clear.

He says he wants the government to actually work for the people, citing a long history of corruption. Furthermore, he's critical of the interim government's handling of the economy.

"Not a single economic plan has been put forward in nine months," Salem said.

The seat Salem is running for represents the Cairo neighborhood of Heliopolis, where liberal politician and analyst Amr Hamzawy is also running. But Salem thinks his toughest competition will be the former ruling party candidate Magdy Mahrous.

His strategy: Expose past corruption by the National Democratic Party and run an innovative campaign focusing on getting young people involved.

Gloomy outlooks by analysts including Salem's election rival Hamzawy predict that the future parliament might very well have a similar makeup to those under the Mubarak regime. But a handful of youth have announced their candidacy and Salem hopes more will follow his lead.

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Op maandag 17 oktober 2011 21:44 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Veel mensen van de eerste topics van toen zullen hem wel herkennen... Sandmonkey. ;D

Activist 'Sandmonkey' running for Egyptian parliament

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AnonymousIRC twitterde op maandag 10-10-2011 om 00:02:12 #Anonymous to @Telecomix. This is a emergency distress signal. Please activate all operatives and agents handling #Egypt. #OpEgypt reageer retweet

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Telecom Egypt employees say to continue strike

CAIRO: Employees of Telecom Egypt (TE) protested Monday outside the company’s headquarters on Ramses Street, saying they will be on strike until their demands are met.

The protest followed a court upheld the prosecution’s decision to keep five employees remanded in custody pending investigations. The employees, aged between 29 and 37, are reportedly accused of attempted murder after holding a senior manager at his office for 20 hours to pressure him to resign.

“This is a political decision, not a legal one. They have nothing against them. They want to frighten all Egyptians from going on strikes,” explained Rehab Hamdy, from TE’s workers coalition.

The young woman warned that the employees would cut landline and internet services countrywide if their demands were not met.

Dozens of workers protested against the “corrupt” management on Monday. They cited official documents that showed huge wage disparities. As senior management’s salaries and bonuses amount to hundreds of thousands of pounds, workers said they don’t even get LE 1,000 a month.

“We want the board to resign; we want the release of our five colleagues; we want a revision of our wages and we want the health insurance to include our families,” explained Ahmed El-Soghair, one of the protesters.

“Some members of the board receive thousands of pounds every month while some of us don’t even get LE 1,000 a month,” he added.

Workers claim that 60-70 Telephone Exchanges have joined the strike, including major ones in Cairo, as well as in Alexandria, Port Said, Minya, Assiut and Sohag. Other reports have put the number of striking centrals closer to 35. Employees at TE’s popular information services, 140, are also reportedly on strike.

Protests escalated last week when number of employees allegedly held hostage the company CEO, Mohamed Abdel Rahim, at the Opera Telephone Exchange for hours, before security forces freed him and arrested five employees.

“Those are lies. We wanted to speak to him, he insulted us and ran away to lock himself in his office. One of his guards who beat us with a stick was promoted the next day,” explained a protester who refused to give out his name.

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Egyptian anger grows after latest case of death by torture

Critics say Essam Ali Atta's death shows junta is failing to dismantle Mubarak's brutal security apparatus

Egyptian officials have tortured a 24-year-old prisoner to death, provoking accusations that the increasingly unpopular junta is failing to dismantle Hosni Mubarak's brutal security apparatus.

Essam Ali Atta, a civilian serving a two-year jail term in Cairo's high-security Tora prison following his conviction in a military tribunal earlier this year for an apparently "common crime", was reportedly attacked by prison guards after trying to smuggle a mobile phone sim card into his cell.

According to statements from other prisoners who witnessed the assault, Atta had large water hoses repeatedly forced into his mouth and anus on more than one occasion, causing severe internal bleeding. An officer then transferred Atta to a central Cairo hospital, but he died within an hour.

The death occurred less than 24 hours after two police officers in Alexandria were each sentenced to seven years in jail for their part in the murder of Khaled Said, a young businessman beaten to death by security forces in broad daylight last year. That incident led to the creation of the Facebook group "We are all Khaled Said" and helped mobilise a wave of protests which eventually toppled Mubarak in February.

On Friday, a new Facebook page entitled We are all Essam Atta appeared online, and quickly attracted thousands of supporters. Activists and human rights campaigners flocked to social media sites to express their fury at Egypt's ruling generals, whom many now view as indistinguishable from the Mubarak regime they replaced.

"Nothing, absolutely nothing, has changed," Aida Seif el-Dawla, co-founder of the El Nadeem centre for the rehabilitation of victims of torture, told the Guardian. "There is nothing rogue about this killing, and nor was it about the mentality of the security officers. It was about official policy and the systematic use of torture in our security system. Those who tortured Essam to death could not have done so unless they knew they were going to get away with it."

Calls are now growing for Egypt's public prosecutor to order a full autopsy on Atta. Sources close to Atta's family say they are resisting pressure from the authorities to carry out a quick burial.

Atta's death is the latest in a long line of official torture incidents that have hit the headlines since the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (Scaf) took power almost 10 months ago. In March, a number of female protesters claimed they were subjected to forced "virginity checks" by soldiers after being detained at a reformist demonstration, and in subsequent months several deaths and assaults of Egyptians at the hands of police officials have been reported.

In September, a video emerged (warning: disturbing content) of unarmed detainees in Daqhaliya governorate being repeatedly slapped, hit and electrocuted by police officers while in custody. Then, on 9 October, Scaf was accused of direct involvement in the worst night of violence seen in Egypt since the anti-Mubarak uprising, with at least 27 people left dead after armoured personnel carriers mowed down groups of protesters.

"Scaf is not a department within the state, it is an extension of Mubarak – nothing less," claimed Dawla. "They have sacrificed Mubarak, but exactly the same regime is still in place, displaying the same language, the same attitude, the same contempt for the Egyptian people."

Egypt is gearing up for parliamentary elections, which will be held in several phases beginning on 28 November. However, under Scaf's current "transition timetable", the military generals will remain in executive power until well into 2013. A number of political parties have already said they will boycott the poll.

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Neima Atta knew her 24-year-old son, Essam, was being tortured in Tora prison. He rang home on Wednesday evening to let his mother and family know that an officer called Nour was giving him trouble.

His father, Ali, told him to try and withstand it, so that the situation – their court appeals against him being tried as a civilian by a military court - doesn’t become any worse than it already was, his father said. Essam had been in prison for eight months by then.

On Wednesday evening, Essam also asked his sister Iman for a sim card, so that he could keep in touch using a mobile phone. The attempt to smuggle this into his cell the next day was apparently caught by Nour, who said that he would teach Essam a lesson.

“I tried to call his mobile at around 7pm on Thursday, and his friend picked up,” Iman told Al-Masry Al-Youm. It was then that she found out that after a two-hour attempt to get his cell door opened, her brother’s body was found laying dead.

“He was taken from us with the blink of an eye, without a reason,” Iman said.

The police officer taught his lesson by inserting hoses into Essam’s mouth and anus, which led to bleeding and subsequently his death, Mona Seif, lead campaigner of the No Military Trials for Civilians group, said.

He was also made to drink water that was intoxicated with cleaning chemicals, Iman, his sister, said.

Saif, the campaigner, spoke to Al-Masry Al-Youm on Friday outside Zainhom, where the official autopsy report was being waited for by around 200 supporters, including members of the April 6 Youth Movement.

His mother, Neima, was in shock and wailing constantly as were his two sisters. His father tried to go into the area where the autopsy was being conducted, but would not be admitted.

His supporters’ version of events is, however, contested by the police. They say there was no evidence of torture on his body, and he died from taking drugs, Malek Adly, the lawyer dealing with Essam’s case said. They also tried to say he chemically intoxicated himself and that is what caused his heart to stop.

But Adly also took a testimony from the doctor who admitted Essam at Qasr al-Aini hospital, who suspected foul play and said his face had severe injuries with liquid secretions from the mouth.

Adly said that there had been attempts to cover up the case by the police. There were no admissions papers for his body at the hospital, for example. Adly then approached the head of a police department to file a complaint, and put in a request with the prosecutor general for an autopsy report.

According to Sayed Fathi, a lawyer following the case, the autopsy was conducted on Atta's intestines and a small rolled package with pills in it was found and taken for testing.

“It is unclear yet how the pills got into his body, but either way, they could not have caused his death. This is very much like the Khaled Saeed case when they found a rolled package with weed in his body. And given what I know about the history of these cases it is a technique the police often use to get themselves acquitted."

Saeed, a young Alexandrian man, was tortured to death by two policemen in July 2010, in unclear circumstances. The two policemen were sentenced to seven years imprisonment each last week.

“There was no evidence of torture on his body. His face was swollen, it had a bluish colour and blood was coming out of his mouth suggesting that there was something internally wrong. The story of the water hose came from his friends who were at the prison, and they called his family to alert them of his death,” Fathi added.

Fathi and others are waiting for the test results of the package found in Atta's intestines. “This case is very similar to Khaled Saeed, in which the initial forensic report was a cover up for what really happened.”

Following the autopsy, Atta's body was taken for a funeral procession in Tahrir Square where thousands congregated, chanting against torture and military rule.
Atta was arrested and given a two-year prison sentence by military police in Moqattam on 25 February, simply for being a bystander as a fight broke out, his sister told Al-Masry Al-Youm. The official version, however, is that he was occupying an apartment illegally with his friends.

“Even if he was a thug or a criminal, he doesn’t deserve to die, and in this way,” a member of the April 6 Youth Movement said.

Before being imprisoned, he worked with his father in a small shop making leather shoes.

There are 12,000 civilians being tried by military courts, according to human rights watchdogs' reports.

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The April 6 Youth Movement on Wednesday rejected the government's draft constitutional principles document, saying it gives far-reaching powers to the military.

During his meeting with several political powers on Tuesday, Deputy Prime Minister Ali al-Selmy proposed a draft constitutional principles document as well as criteria for electing members of the constituent assembly which will be tasked with writing a new constitution.

The document proposes that a 100-member constituent assembly be comprised of 80 non-parliamentary members and 20 members from political parties represented in parliament, with a maximum of five members from each party.

The draft also calls for the establishment of a national defense council to be headed by the president. This council would examine national security measures and be responsible for approving all legislation related to the military.

The document also exclusively grants the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) the right to examine military affairs, including the armed forces budget. Military budget allocations would be listed as the first item in the national budget without detailed figures on proposed expenditures, the document suggests.

"Principles that lead the armed forces to control the state and escape accountability are totally rejected," Injy Hamdy, a spokesperson for the April 6 Youth Movement, said in a statement released Wednesday.

Hamdy criticized the document, calling the broad powers it grants to the SCAF a farce. The movement also said the nation should be allowed to monitor the military's budget.

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Egyptian activist Alaa Abd El Fattah accuses army of hijacking revolution

Letter smuggled out of jail says military were behind protest deaths and little has changed since Hosni Mubarak's rule

The jailed Egyptian revolutionary Alaa Abd El Fattah has written a secret letter from his prison cell, accusing the country's military rulers of murder and lamenting what he views as the army's hijacking of the revolution.

The letter, produced covertly from inside Bab el-Khalq prison where Abd El Fattah is being held, was handed to his pregnant wife, Manal, during a visit on Monday. It is being published in Arabic by the Egyptian newspaper al-Shorouk and in English by the Guardian, and is likely to intensify the growing divisions between Egypt's increasingly repressive army junta and pro-change activists on the street.

Abd El Fattah, one of Egypt's most prominent anti-regime voices and a former political prisoner under the Mubarak dictatorship, was taken into military custody on Sunday evening following public criticisms of the army's conduct on the night of 9 October, when at least 27 people were killed during a Coptic Christian protest in downtown Cairo.

Like many other activists, Abd El Fattah accused the army of direct involvement in the bloodshed, a claim that appears to be supported by extensive witness reports and video footage. He was charged by military prosecutors with "inciting violence against the army", and is being held initially for 15 days – a detention period that can be renewed indefinitely by the authorities. His arrest has provoked outrage across the Middle East and beyond.

In the prison letter, Abd El Fattah reflects on his incarceration under the toppled president Hosni Mubarak in 2006, and argues that despite Egypt's revolution very little appears to have changed. "I never expected to repeat the experience of five years ago," he begins. "After a revolution that deposed the tyrant, I go back to his jails?"

The 29-year-old is being held in what he describes a cockroach-infested 6x12ft cell with eight other men, who Abd El Fattah describes as "poor, helpless, unjustly held – the guilty among them and the innocent". Up to 12,000 civilians are believed to have been processed through military tribunals since the fall of Mubarak in February; those denied access to the normal civilian justice system include many accused of common crimes as well as political prisoners.

Often lyrical and poetic, but always expressing a quiet rage against the crimes of his military captors, Abd El Fattah's letter lays bare the crisis of legitimacy engulfing the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) which took power when Mubarak was toppled and promised to "defend the revolution", but has since dragged its feet on democratic reform and waged a campaign of repression against activists, journalists and demonstrators.

"I spend my first two days listening to stories of torture at the hands of a police force that insists on not being reformed; that takes out its defeat on the bodies of the poor and the helpless," he writes. Addressing the killing of Mina Daniel – a Coptic protester who died during the 9 October protest but has since been accused, like Abd El Fattah, of helping to instigate the violence, he says: "They [the military] must be the first who murder a man and not only walk in his funeral but spit on his body and accuse it of a crime."

Attempting to communicate with the outside world can be exceptionally risky in Egyptian jails. Last week a prisoner at Cairo's high-security Tora prison died after trying to smuggle a mobile phone SIM card into his cell; witnesses have said he was repeatedly tortured by prison guards who caused internal bleeding by inserting a large water house into his mouth and anus. Despite the dangers, Abd El Fattah has given his permission for his letter to be published.

This week Amnesty International released a statement condemning Abd El Fattah's incarceration, calling for an end to military tribunals for civilians, and repeating its contention that the armed forces played a role in the massacre of 9 October.

"The Egyptian military was part of the violence which occurred during the Maspero protests and is also leading the investigation into the bloodshed," said Philip Luther, the organisation's deputy director for the Middle East and north Africa. "This is totally unacceptable and raises serious and fundamental questions about the inquiry's independence and impartiality. Egypt's military authorities must allow an independent investigation into these killings if they are serious about bringing those responsible to justice."

Luthern added: "Military courts should never be used to investigate or try civilians. Such courts are fundamentally unfair, as they deprive defendants of basic fair trial guarantees."

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Elections and Eid celebrations preoccupy most of today’s newspapers, with independent Al-Tahrir describing on its front page the festivities inside the hospital room where deposed President Hosni Mubarak is being held.

Mubarak, dressed in a khaki tracksuit, requested ostrich meat as his Eid meal but was overruled by his wife Suzanne for health reasons. The ex-president received numerous phone calls from well-wishers during the day, Al-Tahrir tells us. “While it is normal that figures from the former regime would call, what is strange is that currently serving government figures called him, such as the current Environment Minister Maged George ... Current Electricity and Energy Minister Hassan Younis left a message of greetings.”

Mubarak also received a half hour call from Tora prison, during which former People’s Assembly Speaker Fathi Sorour is reported to have said, “Don’t worry president, the elections are a complete mess and will explode.”

Al-Tahrir quotes an unnamed source as saying that is evidence that “a huge catastrophe” will happen during the elections.

In Upper Egypt, meanwhile, is witnessing a “war of destructive election propaganda,” particularly between figures with connections to the dissolved National Democratic Party (NDP) and Islamist candidates.

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Op zaterdag 12 november 2011 12:04 schreef johnnylove het volgende:
Rakotto ga je stemmen? En vooral kom je er een beetje uit met al die mogelijkheden?

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Op zaterdag 12 november 2011 15:05 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Ik wil wel gaan stemmen inderdaad. Ik moet alleen nog inschrijven zodat het voor mij mogelijk is om in de ambassade (Of internet??? Weet niet of dit al mogelijk is) te gaan stemmen.

Ik denk dat ik op de Al Masriyeen el Ahrar (The free Egyptians) ga stemmen. Het is een liberale partij. Maar ik ga nog ff voor de zekerheid meer informatie zoeken over iedereen en alles. Mijn stem gaat sowieso niet naar een "Islamitsch" georienteerde partij. Ik vertrouw ze namelijk niet.

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Op zaterdag 12 november 2011 15:05 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Ik wil wel gaan stemmen inderdaad. Ik moet alleen nog inschrijven zodat het voor mij mogelijk is om in de ambassade (Of internet??? Weet niet of dit al mogelijk is) te gaan stemmen.

Ik denk dat ik op de Al Masriyeen el Ahrar (The free Egyptians) ga stemmen. Het is een liberale partij. Maar ik ga nog ff voor de zekerheid meer informatie zoeken over iedereen en alles. Mijn stem gaat sowieso niet naar een "Islamitsch" georienteerde partij. Ik vertrouw ze namelijk niet.

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Op zaterdag 12 november 2011 15:20 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Ja zeker via het internet. Je hebt tot 19 november om jezelf te registreren.
http://www.elections2011.eg/index.php/2011-11-09-20-01-43

En het Youtube kanaal met vids om het verkiezingssysteem te begrijpen:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Elections2011Eg

Vind het maar erg ingewikkeld.

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Op zondag 13 november 2011 11:28 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Ook in Damietta is het al een paar uur onrustig. Schijnen inmiddels al 2 doden zijn gevallen. Nog niet bevestigd. Aanleiding is mij niet bekend.

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Egyptian protesters killed in clashes with security forces

Egypt sees violence escalate as protests against ruling military junta spread beyond Cairo and Alexandria

Clashes between Egyptian security forces and protesters have left at least two civilians dead, following major demonstrations across the country.

In Damietta, a port town where the Nile meets the Mediterranean, the army used force to break up mass protests on Sunday which had brought the city to a standstill for several days. Local news reports indicated that at least two protesters were killed and 11 others injured during the violence. Witnesses told the Guardian that the death toll was considerably higher, but this could not be independently confirmed.

"The situation is very dangerous," said Shaaban ElBadahy, a teacher in Damietta. "Protesters have closed off all the ports and roads in the district and no one can enter or leave the city."

Residents were protesting against newly unveiled plans to expand the production of fertiliser in the area. An existing US-Canadian factory has been blamed for a series of environmental disasters including the depletion of local fish stocks, but its owners insist that they meet all relevant safety standards.

In Aswan, police used teargas against protesters angry over the killing of a local boat captain, who was shot dead by a police officer following an argument last week. Amid claims that protesters might try and shut down the power supply running from the Aswan dam to the rest of the country, the authorities declared a curfew and stepped up the security presence in Egypt's southern-most city.

The latest wave of violence adds further pressure on the military junta ahead of this month's parliamentary elections, with opposition to the ruling generals seemingly beginning to spread beyond Cairo and Alexandria and into rural areas.

On Sunday military prosecutors renewed the detention of two high-profile political prisoners, triggering further protests in the capital.

Alaa Abd El Fattah, a leading revolutionary figurehead, had his detention renewed for a further 15 days, meaning it is likely he will miss the birth of his first child who is due imminently. Maikel Nabil, a blogger who has now been on hunger strike for over 80 days, had his retrial adjourned to 27 November 27th and will remain in jail until then.

On Sunday evening demonstrators gathered at Cairo's Qasr el-Nil bridge over the Nile to express their rejection of the junta. The bridge was the location for one of the most significant street battles between protesters and police during the anti-Mubarak uprising earlier this year, and has become synonymous with revolutionary victory by the people over the security forces.

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Op zondag 13 november 2011 22:10 schreef waht het volgende:
Egypte heeft nog een tweede revolutie nodig blijkbaar.

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Op zondag 13 november 2011 22:33 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Nee, de eerste is pas halverwege

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Op maandag 14 november 2011 19:14 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
HILVERSUM - De Arabische afdeling van Radio Nederland Wereldomroep heeft een online 'Kieskompas' uitgebracht voor de parlementsverkiezingen in Egypte. De site, die samen met de Vrije Universiteit van Amsterdam is ontwikkeld, helpt stemgerechtigden uit te zoeken welke partij het meest overeenkomt met hun standpunten.

Na de politieke omwentelingen in Egypte en het gedwongen vertrek van president Hosni Mubarak worden er vanaf 28 november in etappes vrije verkiezingen gehouden in Egypte. Het doel van het Kieskompas is om de betrokkenheid van Egyptische kiezers te stimuleren en hen te ondersteunen bij het maken van hun politieke keuze.

Lokale universiteiten
De vragen en standpunten zijn samen met een team van Egyptische politieke wetenschappers opgesteld op basis van offici�le documenten en uitgesproken standpunten van de politieke partijen of uitspraken van hun leiders. De Wereldomroep en de VU werken voor het Kieskompas in Egypte samen met verschillende lokale mediapartners en universiteiten, zoals Al Jazeera, Al Hayat-TV, Cairo University en American University Cairo.

Het Kieskompas is onafhankelijk en heeft geen enkele band met een partij, kandidaat of overheid. Het van oorsprong Nederlandse Kieskompas is al in 34 landen gebruikt, waaronder Turkije, Canada en recent in Tunesi� en Marokko.

Het Kieskompas is vanaf vandaag te vinden via www.bosala.org

http://www.rnw.nl/nederla(...)en-kieskompas-egypte

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We are all Khaled Said


Tomorrow Friday, there will be a large march from Mostafa Mahmoud Square in Cairo to Tahrir Square. The march has one and only demand: “Egyptians want an elected president right after the upcoming general elections”. The march is in response to the ruling Military council decision to do the presidential elections after the constitution is written (under their authority). Our demand is that presidential elections should be carried out straight after the general elections that are due to start this month. We should not wait for the constitution is written under the supervision of the military council. It should be written under elected parliament and president… Support our demands. Click like, share this event invitation and let everybody know.

The march will arrive in Tahrir and will join those already protesting in Tahrir against the military council decision to stay in power during writing the constitution and trying to have a special position for the army in the new constitution.

حملة حازم صلاح أثناء إقامة المنصة ليلة 18 نوفمبر

مسيره "الدقى " 17-11

ميدان التحرير 17 نوفمبر ليلاً

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