[F1] F1 nieuwtjes topic deel 54; Waar Fisi z'n kans krijgt

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Op donderdag 3 september 2009 23:26 schreef nils7 het volgende:
En wie gaat er in de Kracht India rijden?

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Op donderdag 3 september 2009 23:26 schreef nils7 het volgende:
En wie gaat er in de Kracht India rijden?

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 05:14 schreef kepler het volgende:
Ik heb goede hoop dat Fisi kan knallen op Monza

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Op donderdag 3 september 2009 22:36 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Erm ... Renault is nou niet echt een team dat twee goede auto's op de baan kan zetten. Fisi heeft altijd een nr.2 positie bekleed bij Renault.

Ik denk zelf dat hij het Raikkonen nog wel eens heel erg moeilijk zal kunnen gaan maken.

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 08:47 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:

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Ik hoop het, maar zelfs al zou de tweede Renault minder zijn dan die van Alonso, had hij in 2007 toch beter moeten presteren dan Kovalainen, en ook dat lukte hem niet.

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Overzicht carrière Fisichella

Na Rubens Barrichello is Giancarlo Fisichella de meest ervaren coureur in het Formule 1-veld. In de nadagen van zijn carriére gaat voor de Italiaan een droomwens in vervulling als coureur van Ferrari. We zetten de carriére van Fisichella op een rij.

1996 - Minardi
Na een jaar ervaring te hebben opgedaan als testrijder bij Minardi maakt Fisichella in 1996 zijn debuut bij de kleine Italiaanse renstal. De veelbelovende jongeling maakt het seizoen echter niet af. Talent heeft hij genoeg, geld niet. Dus wordt hij door het armlastige team na acht races vervangen door Giovanni Lavaggi.

1997 - Jordan
In zijn tweede seizoen wordt Fisichella opgepikt door Eddie Jordan. Als teamgenoot van Ralf Schumacher scoort hij tijdens de Grand Prix van Canada zijn eerste podium. In Duitsland heeft hij kans op de overwinning, maar een lekke band gooit roet in het eten. Tijdens een verregende Grand Prix van België finishte hij als tweede achter Michael Schumacher en maakt hij definitief naam in de Formule 1.

1998-2001 Benetton
Na het vertrek van Renault als partner van Benetton is het team in 1998 nooit meer tot grootse prestaties in staat. Fisichella is daar het slachtoffer van. Tweede plaatsen in Monaco en Montreal zijn spaarzame hoogtepunten in zijn tijd bij de renstal van Flavio Briatore. Net als zijn eerste pole position op de A1 Ring. Een jaar later is het al niet veel beter. Een spin kost hem de overwinning in de Grand Prix van Europa en verder sprokkelt hij slechts een podium en 13 punten bij elkaar. In de eerste twee jaar van het nieuwe millennium verslaat hij met gemak zijn teamgenoten Alexander Wurz en Jenson Button, maar meer dan een paar podiumplaatsen zit er niet in. Fisichella besluit na het seizoen terug te keren naar Jordan.

2002-2003 Jordan
Het eerste jaar bij Jordan Honda brengt Fisichella niet veel. Als het team in 2003 overstapt naar Ford-motoren gaat het beter. In Brazilië valt alles op zijn plaats. In de regen passeert hij Kimi Raikkonen in de 54ste ronde. Direct daarna wordt de race afgevlagd. In eerste instantie wordt Raikkonen aangewezen als winnaar, maar na bestudering van de data besluit de FIA dat Fisichella de winnaar is. Bij de volgende race op Imola krijgt de Italiaan uit handen van Raikkonen alsnog de beker uitgereikt.

2005-2007 Renault
De terugkeer van Renault als fabrieksteam moet de doorbraak van Fisichella betekenen naar de top. Een overwinning in Australië is de perfecte eerste stap, maar daarna gaat het slechts bergafwaarts. Pech en gebrek aan snelheid zorgen ervoor dat Fisichella twee jaar lang in de schaduw rijdt van Fernando Alonso. De Spanjaard wint twee wereldtitels, terwijl Fisichella na Australië maar één andere race wint, de Grand Prix van Maleisië in 2006. In 2007 vertrekt Alonso, maar in een oncompetitieve Renault R27 kan Fisichella geen potten breken. Hij rijdt een kleurloos seizoen en wordt herhaaldelijk door zijn rookie-teamgenoot Heikki Kovalainen te kijken gezet.

2008-2009 Force India
In 2008 wordt Fisichella bij de nieuwe Indiase renstal Force India binnengehaald als eerste coureur naast Adrian Sutil. Tijdens de Grand Prix van Monaco wordt hij de achtste coureur ooit die in meer dan 200 Grands Prix van start gaat. Gedurende het seizoen rijdt Force India steevast achteraan. Een jaar later lijkt zich hetzelfde liedje te herhalen, totdat het kleine team tijdens de Grand Prix van Europa een grote aerodynamische update meebrengt. In Valencia is er nog niet veel van te zien, maar tijdens de Grand Prix van België zet Fisichella de auto op pole position en verliest hij slechts nipt in de race van Kimi Raikkonen. Enkele dagen later vraagt Ferrari hem om Luca Badoer op te volgen als vervanger van de gebleseerde Felipe Massa. Op 13 september komt voor de 36-jarige Fisichella zijn scharlaken rode droom eindelijk uit.

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 10:03 schreef vosss het volgende:
En wie weet zo uit zn hoofd wie die andere 7 zijn?

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 10:25 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
Zou wel zuur zijn als Force India Ferrari ECHT heeft ingehaald qua ontwikkeling
Rijdt Liuzzi dadelijk lachend rondjes om Fisi en Kimi

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 10:29 schreef kepler het volgende:

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Ik denk dat dat Fisi niet eens zo heel veel uitmaakt, hij rijdt in een Ferrari op Monza

Zou wel vervelend zijn als Sutil dadelijk wint ofzo

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 10:03 schreef vosss het volgende:
En wie weet zo uit zn hoofd wie die andere 7 zijn?

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 10:36 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
"Veni Vidi Fisi"

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 14:02 schreef Trystar het volgende:
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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 14:40 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
Je kunt wel zeggen dat Spa '09 de beste race tot nu toe uit de carrière van Fisico is Zo zal hij het ongetwijfeld zien!

Mooie "I belong here" blik, btw.

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 15:30 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:
Het had (volgens dit bericht) een overwinning moeten zijn voor Fisichella, omdat Kimi de overwinning gestolen heeft. Niet door het inhalen van Fisichella, maar al in de eerste ronde door het buiten de baan inhalen van Heidfeld en Trulli.

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Renault summoned by FIA's WMSC

Renault has been summoned to appear before an extraordinary hearing of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council later this month to answer charges that it caused a deliberate crash in last year's Singapore GP.

The team's representative have been asked to appear at the hearing, which takes place in Paris on September 21, to respond to claims that Nelson Piquet's crash in the night race was intentional - with the aim of helping team-mate Fernando Alonso win.

After it was revealed last weekend that the FIA was investigating the events that took place in Singapore, following the emergence of fresh evidence, the FIA confirmed on Friday that it believed there was a case to be answered.

In a statement the FIA said: "Representatives of ING Renault F1 have been requested to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Monday, 21 September 2009.

"The team representatives have been called to answer charges, including a breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, that the team conspired with its driver, Nelson Piquet Jr, to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso."

Article 151c is the standard disrepute charge, which can result in any severity of punishment, ranging from reprimands and fines through to race bans and exclusion from the world championship.

It states an offence is: "Any fraudulent conduct or any act prejudicial to the interests of any competition or to the interests of motor sport generally."

Piquet's crash early in the race caused a safety car, and the timing of that was perfect for helping Alonso move to the head of the field despite a very early first stop for fuel.

At the time of the event, Piquet was adamant that the crash had been caused simply by him pushing too hard.

"It was my mistake," said the Brazilian. "We tried two extreme strategies with Fernando quite short and me quite long in the hope of getting a safety car. If I hadn't crashed I would have been lucky with the safety car later in the race because I was very happy.

"We're always scraping the walls, and once you've touched the wall a little too much and lose control that's it."

However, it was fresh evidence that came to light in the last few weeks that forced the FIA to take action - and which has resulted in the WMSC hearing. That evidence has also emerged shortly after Piquet was dropped by Renault, although it is not known if the Brazilian himself was a catalyst for the investigation.

Renault has so far declined to comment about the investigation or make any statement about the latest events.

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 19:38 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Briatore is veels te vies om schoon te zijn

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 15:30 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:

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Het had (volgens dit bericht) een overwinning moeten zijn voor Fisichella, omdat Kimi de overwinning gestolen heeft. Niet door het inhalen van Fisichella, maar al in de eerste ronde door het buiten de baan inhalen van Heidfeld en Trulli.

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Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 14:02 schreef Trystar het volgende:
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Op zaterdag 5 september 2009 07:34 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Of Schumacher-taferelen... (en bijna Mika-taferelen)

Schumacher cries after equals Ayrton Senna's number of victories.

Very Emotional Rubens Barrichello

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Op zaterdag 5 september 2009 12:30 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Het grote probleem met een coureur vinden voor Ferrari is dat ze niet wilden dat een coureur na dit seizoen (wanneer Massa terug komt) met alle kennis van de Ferrari werkwijze naar een ander team zou gaan.

Ferrari doet niet aan het opleiden van coureurs binnen de F1

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Op zaterdag 5 september 2009 19:43 schreef Trystar het volgende:
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Op zaterdag 5 september 2009 20:03 schreef bodylotion het volgende:

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op de eerste foto staat een potret waar Fernando Alonso ook op staat. Toeval?

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 00:35 schreef Nymphetic13 het volgende:

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Dat is gewoon een foto van een van de overwinningen van Massa. Is vorig seizoen op Interlagos genomen. Dus geen toeval aangezien Massa dus won Alonso 2de werd en Kimi 3de. En laat die kwal van een Alonso asjeblieft niet naar Ferrari gaan. Alonso is best een goede coureur maar ik vind het een arrogante lul. Al is dat wel een goede eigenschap waarschijnlijk in de F1. En daarbij er zijn 4 a 5 coureurs in het F1 veld die ik hoger inschat dan Alonso. Waaronder de beide Ferrari rijders.

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 02:52 schreef kepler het volgende:
Ik vind Alonso ook 1 van de beste coureurs in het huidige veld, alleen kan het af en toe (regelmatig) echt een eikel zijn

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 03:39 schreef nils7 het volgende:

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Schumacher was ook een eikel dus volgens mij moet je dat wel hebben

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Ferrari has charged an American company with the task of engineering the best driver simulator in Formula One.

With the Italian team's arch rivals McLaren believed to currently possess the best simulator, it emerges that the New York-based firm Moog is working on building a "next-generation" machine to be installed at Maranello.

Moog is involved in the aerospace and defence industries, making aircraft, spacecraft, military weapon and missile controls.

"The dynamic driving simulator is a new step for us in developing virtual tests that give drivers the true feel of a real environment and direct feedback on their actions," Ferrari's head of car performance Marco Fainello confirmed.

Moog also confirmed the news.

Simulators are of growing importance to F1 teams, with Ferrari revealing on Tuesday that it used carmaker partner Fiat's Centro Ricerche facility to prepare for the new layout at Valencia.

But reigning World Champion Kimi Raikkonen is not a fan of using simulators to prepare for unfamiliar circuits.

"To be honest, that's something I don't like," the Finn admitted. "I've always been able to get to know a new race track very fast."

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 10:30 schreef vosss het volgende:
Ik lees net dat Fisico de eerste kilometers al gemaakt heeft in de F60.
In de simulator welteverstaan.

Nou vraag ik mij al best lang af hoe zo een simulator eruit ziet. Qua physics en beeld etc.
Is dat te vergelijken met de voor de normale stervelingen beschikbare sims? Of is dit veel beter en mooier gemaakt en zo ja, waarom maken die mensen die zo een simulator maken geen racesims?

Iemand die hier iets zinnigs over kan zeggen?

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 10:37 schreef kepler het volgende:
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/(...)l/080819175025.shtml
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En ik denk niet dat ze een racesim mogen maken van Ferrari, dan is het voordeel van Ferrari weer weg

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 10:38 schreef Schunckelstar het volgende:

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in de f1racing van vorige maand stond er een heel artikel over de sim van torro rosso ( of red bull, weet niet meer zeker) maar dat zijn niet de sims die wij ook kunnen betalen
het is gewoon een compleet nagebouwde wagen, die ook helemaal meebeweegtin de bochten en over de kerbs en zo...
dat ding is zo echt dat ze hem ook gebruiken om nieuwe onderdelen te testen op het circuit nu dat testen in een echte wagen niet meer mag

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 10:49 schreef sanger het volgende:

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Oud stuk is dat al. Nog van 2008

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 10:30 schreef vosss het volgende:
INou vraag ik mij al best lang af hoe zo een simulator eruit ziet. Qua physics en beeld etc.
Is dat te vergelijken met de voor de normale stervelingen beschikbare sims? Of is dit veel beter en mooier gemaakt en zo ja, waarom maken die mensen die zo een simulator maken geen racesims?

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 11:00 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Wat denk jij?

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 12:27 schreef vosss het volgende:
Die gebruiken dus gewoon rFactor zo te zien?

Ik heb altijd gedacht dat die zelf een of ander uberstuk software maakte en dat gebruikte in hun simulator.

Red Bull dus in ieder geval al niet zo te lezen.
En ik ben er dan benieuwd naar hoe het eruit ziet bij de teams die dat wel zelf doen

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rFactor was developed by Image Space Incorporated (ISI), which has been developing race simulators since the early 1990s for both commercial and military purposes.

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Badoer: "Ik ben vervangen door druk van de media"

Volgens Luca Badoer zijn de media er medeschuldig aan dat hij na twee races alweer aan de kant is gezet door Ferrari. De Italiaanse coureur denkt dat hij nog wel een extra kans van het team had gekregen als de media niet zo negatief waren geweest.

"De mensen die schrijven weten niet hoeveel schade ze kunnen aanrichten. De media hebben een fundamentele rol gespeeld in de beslissing om mij te vervangen", vertelde Badoer, die ondanks alles niet teleurgesteld is in zijn prestaties, aan de Italiaanse media. "Ik heb mijn droom gerealiseerd. Ik kan mijn kinderen altijd zeggen dat ik twee races voor Ferrari heb gereden. Ik heb van slechts een ding spijt: ik weet zeker dat ik het in mijn derde Grand Prix beter zou hebben gedaan."

Badoer is bij Ferrari vervangen door Giancarlo Fisichella, die volgend jaar ook reserverijder van het team wil worden. Toch wil de Italiaan ook verbonden blijven aan de Italiaanse renstal. "Mijn plan is om te blijven. Met racen ben ik klaar, maar mijn relatie met Ferrari nog niet", zei hij. "Giancarlo is een snelle coureur en ik ben blij voor hem. Hij zal het ook beter doen dan ik, want hij heeft ervaring met de auto's van 2009 en heeft al jaren in de Formule 1 gereden."

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Ik heb van slechts een ding spijt: ik weet zeker dat ik het in mijn derde Grand Prix beter zou hebben gedaan."

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 12:50 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Je moet het zo zien:

De focus bij echte F1 simulatoren ligt natuurlijk heel ergens anders dan bij de games. De games moeten verkopen en om die reden gaat er veel geheugen / processortijd naar de omgeving ... bloeiende boompjes, zicht tot aan de orizon, geanimeerd publiek en een heuse pitcrew!

Bij de echte F1-simulatoren kunnen ze die rekenkracht en het geheugen natuurlijk veel beter gebruiken. Hoe meer frames per second, des te nauwkeuriger alle data verwerkt wordt door de coureur. Het zal de werkgevers van een coureur dan denk ik ook wel een worst wezen of hij de graphics wel of niet mooi vindt.

Natuurlijk zal alle realiteit die nodig is aanwezig zijn ... de zon reflecterend op vochtig asfalt, bijvoorbeeld. Of de snelle licht-overgangen van Monaco (tunnel). Er gaat alleen veel meer aandacht naar gigantische hoeveelheden variabele data met zo weinig mogelijk latency in twee richtingen (data naar auto en coureur, telemetrie terug naar operators) verwerken. Normale simulatoren (games) hebben echt maar een paar variabelen die de uiteindelijke geometrie van de ophanging en het weggedrag van de auto bepalen. Ik kan mij bijvoorbeeld niet voorstellen dat de bandentemperatuur en -druk 200+ keer per seconde voor ieder wiel wordt bijgehouden in een game, om maar niet te spreken van bijvoorbeeld de uitlaattemperatuur.

Omdat computers steeds krachtiger worden en geheugen steeds goedkoper zal er in de nieuwste simulatoren wel extra realiteit zijn om de coureur meer het gevoel te geven dat hij op locatie is maar kleinere teams zoals Williams hebben die luxe niet. Als ik Williams was zou ik gewoon zo'n Force Dynamics 401 kopen hebben ze in ieder geval nog wat G-krachten.

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 15:27 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Klopt ergens wel hoor ... Ferrari wist dat Badoer een stuk langzamer zou zijn, het kampioenschap kunnen ze wel shaken ... de media en de zogenaamde fans hebben van een bekende huis-mug een olifant gemaakt.

Ze hebben mazzel met Fisi ... anders had Kubica er waarschijnlijk gezeten maar dan had Badoer nog wel een race of twee mogen rijden.

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 17:22 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Het punt van Luca = Denk jij dat Ferrari beter van hem had verwacht?

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 14:36 schreef Trystar het volgende:

Ik kan mijn kinderen altijd zeggen dat ik twee races voor Ferrari heb gereden.

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Op zondag 6 september 2009 17:22 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Het punt van Luca = Denk jij dat Ferrari beter van hem had verwacht?

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 14:35 schreef LeXX het volgende:
Even hier mijn verbazing neerzetten over het feit dat Der Ralf nog een gegadigde was voor de lege Force India stoel. Inmiddels is bekend dat Liuzzi deze gaat bezetelen
Geen bron, tis wat lastig copyen en pasten vanaf een mobiele telefoon

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Brawn GP's Formula 1 future is poised for a major boost, with Mercedes-Benz close to a deal to take equity in the team.

With the world championship leaders already having secured sponsorship funding for the next few years, as revealed by AUTOSPORT last month, the team's outlook now looks even better following discussions with the German car manufacturer.

Reports first emerged about the plans this morning in The Daily Telegraph, and sources have confirmed to AUTOSPORT that talks are at an advanced stage for the car company to take a shareholding in the team.

It comes on the back of Mercedes-Benz's increased profile as a customer engine supplier over the past season - with the team set to provide power-units to McLaren, Force India, Brawn and, perhaps, Red Bull Racing in 2010.

The move is not, however, an attempt by Mercedes-Benz to move away from its long-standing commitment to partner McLaren - and it is instead believed to be part of the car manufacturer's attempt to increase its presence in F1.

A McLaren spokesman told AUTOSPORT that the team had no qualms about Mercedes-Benz's plans for expanding its involvement with its rivals in the sport.

"Mercedes-Benz's engine supply contract with McLaren is a very long-standing one - it's in its 15th consecutive year, in fact - and it will continue to run for many years to come," said the spokesman.

"However, we're supportive of our partner's plans regarding engine supply of other teams in Formula 1, and we were delighted earlier this year that a Mercedes-Benz engine supply deal was able to be done with Brawn, thereby saving that team from likely extinction.

"Force India, too, has blossomed as a result of its engine supply/engineering consultancy collaboration with Mercedes-Benz and McLaren - as Giancarlo Fisichella's impressive second place in the recent Belgian Grand Prix showed all too clearly.

"Both McLaren and Mercedes-Benz remain extremely satisfied with our Formula 1 collaboration, which has netted three drivers' world championships and one constructors' world championship as well as dozens of grand prix victories.

"As ever, we'll be aiming to add to that win tally together at this weekend's Italian Grand Prix - although we never under-estimate our opposition and the competition will undoubtedly be tough."

Mercedes-Benz itself denied that the plan was for a full-blown buyout of Brawn, but did not rule out an equity-type deal.

"It's our policy not to comment on rumours and we want to point out that we have longstanding contracts with McLaren," a spokesperson for the company told The Daily Telegraph.

Mercedes-Benz is poised to confirm its engine plans for 2010 at the Italian Grand Prix, although there is fresh uncertainty now surrounding whether or not Red Bull Racing will make the switch from Renault to Mercedes-Benz.

Although the deal had appeared to be all but done in recent weeks, sources suggest that the contract has not yet been signed - and it is not impossible that the team could actually stick with its current partner for another year.

Williams is looking at changing its engine supply deal for next year, having asked Toyota to be released from its contract, and had been expected to switch to Renault. However, there remains a chance the Grove-based outfit could be in the running for a Mercedes-Benz deal if Red Bull Racing opts not to take it.

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Renault herintroduceert KERS op Monza
07 september 2009

Het team van Renault zal tijdens de Italiaanse Grand Prix weer gebruik maken van het Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS). Zo heeft hoofdingenieur Pat Symonds bevestigd. De Franse renstal reed in Maleisië voor het laatst met het systeem, dat de coureurs tijdelijk wat extra vermogen kan geven bij het accelereren.

Over de redenen om de KERS weer in de auto te monteren, zei Symonds: "Ten eerste zorgt het rijden met KERS voor een snellere rondetijd op het circuit van Monza. We denken dat het systeem ongeveer een kwart seconde tijdwinst kan opleveren. In de kwalificatie misschien nog wel meer. Ten tweede zorgt KERS voor een voordeel bij de start, aangezien het in Monza een flink eind is van de grid naar de eerste bocht."

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 18:55 schreef Fluffy_Augurk het volgende:
Ik heb sinds kort rfactor, vooral vanwege de fsone mod waar ik veel goeds over heb gehoord. Nu probeer ik te vinden waar ik de laatste complete versie hiervan kan vinden!

Ik heb tot nu toe alleen een 2007 versie met maar 4 f1 circuits gevonden.. wie kan mij helpen?

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 17:02 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Ik vind Williams echt de grote verliezer in deze...

Pracht van een mechanisch systeem en er gewoon niet gebruik van maken.

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 21:26 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:

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Daarom stemden ze als enige tegen een verbod op KERS volgend jaar. Ze willen er nog gebruik van gaan maken.

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 17:02 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Ik vind Williams echt de grote verliezer in deze...

Pracht van een mechanisch systeem en er gewoon niet gebruik van maken.

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 18:55 schreef Fluffy_Augurk het volgende:
Ik heb sinds kort rfactor, vooral vanwege de fsone mod waar ik veel goeds over heb gehoord. Nu probeer ik te vinden waar ik de laatste complete versie hiervan kan vinden!

Ik heb tot nu toe alleen een 2007 versie met maar 4 f1 circuits gevonden.. wie kan mij helpen?

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 22:39 schreef bodylotion het volgende:

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KERS blijft in 2010, toch?

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 23:20 schreef Peterselieman het volgende:

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In de reglementen wel, maar de FOTA wil er vanaf. De enige manier om dus KERS te gaan gebruiken is geen lid van de FOTA te zijn.

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 23:36 schreef vosss het volgende:

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Ehmz, nu zijn er toch ook leden van de FOTA die het (soms) niet gebruiken?
Hoe zit dat dan? Ben je volgend jaar VERPLICHT om het te gebruiken of wat?

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 23:20 schreef vosss het volgende:

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FSONE 2008 1.01 is volgens mij de nieuwste.

De tracks zijn ook te vinden op die site

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 00:06 schreef vosss het volgende:
Die is niet van FSONE

De beste voor rFactor zijn FSONE, MMG en CTDP wat mij betreft.
Deze ken ik (nog) niet.

Ik zal hem eens binnen harken

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 09:37 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Ophanging zit niet aan het bodywork vast hoor Zo moeilijk is het niet om de gaten in het bodywork voor de ophanging een stukkie te verplaatsen.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 09:50 schreef sanger het volgende:

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Ik bedoel meer dat de neerwaartse druk wsl verandert waardoor de ophanging aan andere specs zou moeten voldoen. Zeker met de ingrijpende wijzigingen op gebied van voor en achtervleugels.

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Geslaagde cosmetische ingreep voor Massa
08 september 2009

Ferrari-coureur Felipe Massa heeft maandag een geslaagde cosmetische ingreep ondergaan aan zijn hoofd. De operatie vond plaats in het Albert Einstein-ziekenhuis in de Braziliaanse stad Sao Paulo en nam anderhalf uur in beslag.

Massa kreeg tijdens de kwalificatie voor de Grand Prix van Hongarije een metalen veer van de auto van Rubens Barrichello tegen zijn helm. De 28-jarige Braziliaan liep hierbij een hersenschudding en een schedelbreuk op. Tijdens de laatste operatie hebben de doktoren het gedeelte boven het linkeroog, waar de veer de helm raakte, weer hersteld. Massa zal na een kort verblijf in het ziekenhuis weer naar huis mogen.

Naar verwachting keert Massa volgend jaar weer terug op de grid. Tot het zover is, wordt hij vervangen door Ferrari's nieuwe reservecoureur Giancarlo Fisichella.

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Massa vol goede moed

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Felipe Massa wil graag weer racen en zegt geen angst te hebben na zijn ongeluk in Hongarije. De Braziliaan is inmiddels weer geopereerd. Er is een titanium plaat in zijn hoofd gezet:" Die was nodig om weer te kunnen racen. Er miste een stuk bot en normaal kun je dar gewoon mee leven, maar om te racen moest er een pleet overeen",aldus Felipe.

Hij heeft zijn crash pas thuis in Brazilie bekeken en kon het niet geloven dat hij door een veer geraakt werd;"Ik heb eerder klappers meegmaakt die voor mijn gevoel erger waren, Monaco 2002 en twee keer in Barcelona toen ik zonder remmen kwam te zitten. Dan ga nadenken over de gevolgen, deze klap weet ik niks van en dus zal ik er geen last van hebben als ik weer in de auto zit. Mijn vrouw heeft me twee gevraagd of ik door wil gaan , maar dit is mijn leven , dit is wat ik doe en wil doen. Ook mijn moeder zie ik soms kijken en denken maar zijn durft de vraag niet te stellen omdat ze weet hoe ik ben' zegt Massa.

Nadat deze ingreep genezen is wil hij weer naar Europa en veel tijd besteden in de simulator en aan karten. Massa:" ik zal er bij zijn in Interlagos voor mijn thuisrace, het zal niet makkelijk zijn om toeschouwer te zijn maar ik zal er zijn".

grts
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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 09:54 schreef kepler het volgende:

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Ik denk dat neerwaartse druk daar niet heel veel mee te maken heeft, dat kan je opvangen met de dempers. Het zijn juist eerder de slicks die zorgen voor meer krachten op wielophanging en dus een redesign zouden vragen

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 11:42 schreef sanger het volgende:

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Dempers zijn een onderdeel van de ophanging imo.

Slicks is ook een goede inderdaad.

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Mijn vrouw heeft me twee gevraagd of ik door wil gaan , maar dit is mijn leven , dit is wat ik doe en wil doen.

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Renault ontkent manipulatie in brief aan FIA
Renault-teambaas Flavio Briatore en hoofdengineer Pat Symonds ontkennen ten stelligste dat ze Nelson Piquet vorig jaar in Singapore de opdracht gaven om opzettelijk te crashen. Het tweetal heeft een brief aan de internationale autosportbond FIA gestuurd om dat te benadrukken.

Renault moet op 21 september echter wel voor de World Motor Sport Council verschijnen om zich te verantwoorden. De Spaanse krant AS meldt dat Piquet voor de race verteld werd dat hij in een specifieke ronde een ongeluk diende te veroorzaken. Als beloning zou hem contractverlenging voor 2009 in het vooruitzicht zijn gesteld. De Braziliaanse zender Globo TV bericht ondertussen dat de spin van Piquet in de opwarmronde een oefening was voor de daadwerkelijke crash tijdens de race.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:03 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
Niet vergeten dat de geometrie van de ophanging ook verstelbaar is
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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:04 schreef kepler het volgende:
Haha de spin in de opwarmronde als oefening

Maar zo onmogelijk is dat niet, crashen zodra Alonso in de pits staat

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:04 schreef kepler het volgende:
Haha de spin in de opwarmronde als oefening

Maar zo onmogelijk is dat niet, crashen zodra Alonso in de pits staat

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:10 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Ik wel ... tot nu toe hebben de meeste whistle-blowers in het F1-wereldje gelijk gekregen. Bovendien is er zo weinig motivatie voor Nelson om dit te doen als het niet waar is.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:10 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Ik wel ... tot nu toe hebben de meeste whistle-blowers in het F1-wereldje gelijk gekregen. Bovendien is er zo weinig motivatie voor Nelson om dit te doen als het niet waar is.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:14 schreef vosss het volgende:

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Ik heb nog nergens gelezen dat Nelsinho dit verhaal naar buiten heeft gebracht

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Mocht hij dit wel zelf gezegd hebben, en het blijkt niet waar te zijn, dan heeft Piquet zijn kansen in de F1 wel vergooit.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:23 schreef bodylotion het volgende:

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Mocht het wel waar zijn, wordt Renault sowieso geschrapt uit de uitslag van die race, en ik denk uit het hele seizoen 2008 + dat Flavio kan vertrekken. Is toch een zeer ernstig vergrijp om je rijder, de marshals en het publiek op deze manier in gevaar te brengen.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:23 schreef bodylotion het volgende:
Voor het wereldkampioenschap maakt het niet zoveel uit, gezien Massa die race niet in de punten is gefinished en dus nooit meer punten dan Hamilton zou kunnen hebben behaald.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:31 schreef sanger het volgende:

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Wel als de hele race wordt geschrapt. Dan verliest Hamilton meer punten (6) dan Massa (0).

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Ferrari will announce its sponsorship deal with Spanish banking giants Santander at Monza on Thursday, confirming a deal that was first revealed by AUTOSPORT in July last year.

Ferrari is to hold a press conference ahead of the Italian Grand Prix with Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo and the president of the Bank of Santander, Emilio Botin.

The Santander alliance comes amid continued speculation that Spaniard Fernando Alonso is also on his way to Ferrari, although it is not known if an announcement about the Maranello team's 2010 driver plans will be made at Monza this weekend.

Ferrari has already stated that it is waiting for Felipe Massa to be fully fit for the start of next season, and it has a contract with Kimi Raikkonen too - although there is a chance this could be bought out.

Santander entered Formula 1 in 2007 with the McLaren team, on the back of its signing of Alonso, and its contract with the Woking-based team runs until the end of this year.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 12:41 schreef vosss het volgende:

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De race gaan ze echt niet schrappen. Hamilton kan er niets aan doen dat Renault wellicht de boel oplicht.

Ik denk eerder dat ze Renault schrappen, al dan niet volledig uit 2008

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F1's testing agreement will be slightly modified next year so that new or returning drivers can get some experience of their cars prior to racing.

According to Auto Motor und Sport, if a team wants or needs to alter its race line-up during the 2010 season, a one-day test for the replacement will be excluded from the total ban on proper in-season circuit testing.

Drivers eligible for the measure this year would have been Michael Schumacher, Luca Badoer, Tonio Liuzzi and rookies Jaime Alguersuari and Romain Grosjean.


To prevent abuse of the measure, in situations like that of Schumacher - who ultimately did not return to race - his test day would have been deleted from Ferrari's allocation of testing for the subsequent season.

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Op dinsdag 8 september 2009 18:54 schreef Tarado het volgende:
Santander to announce Ferrari deal

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, September 8th 2009, 16:15 GMT
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autosport.com

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 10:56 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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Source: GMM
© CAPSIS International

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 11:01 schreef Giem het volgende:

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Toch zie ik hem in 2010 nog steeds niet bij Ferrari rijden..

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 11:59 schreef sanger het volgende:
Ik had het iig over Alonso

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 12:20 schreef kriele het volgende:
Nu bemoeid Bernie zich met de rijderskeuze van Force India. Mallya had volgens eikelsteen moeten kiezen voor Karun Chandhok uit India, want hij is zooooo getalenteerd Yeah right, en het zal er niets mee te maken hebben dat er zo nodig een GP naar India moet gaan. Fuck GP's in Verweggistan. F1 heeft de oorsprong in Europa. Verloochen die roots dan niet.
Ik heb het helemaal gehad met die karakterloze grand prix' in vage landen. Totaal geen sfeer en lege tribunes. Fuck it!

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 12:55 schreef Giem het volgende:

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Alonso + Renault werkt op een of andere manier gewoon wel, maar bij een ander team kan hij geen potten breken. Hij moet het team naar zijn hand kunnen zetten, en ik vraag me af of hij dat bij Ferrari kan.

Kimi en Alonso naast elkaar lijkt me wel leuk om te zien, maar ik vrees dat het gaat uitmonden in een rel tussen Ferrari en Alonso net als bij McLaren.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 14:26 schreef Waffle het volgende:
Daar durf ik ook wel geld op in te zetten. Want voor zover ik weet is Alonso bij elk team redelijk succesvol geweest. Minardi deed hij het niet slecht voor een Minardi coureur, Renault perfect en Mclaren goed, maar het team werkte hem tegen.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 12:55 schreef Giem het volgende:

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Alonso + Renault werkt op een of andere manier gewoon wel, maar bij een ander team kan hij geen potten breken. Hij moet het team naar zijn hand kunnen zetten, en ik vraag me af of hij dat bij Ferrari kan.

Kimi en Alonso naast elkaar lijkt me wel leuk om te zien, maar ik vrees dat het gaat uitmonden in een rel tussen Ferrari en Alonso net als bij McLaren.

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Monza voorziet chicanes van hogere kerbstones
08 september 2009

De eerste twee chicanes van Monza zijn voorzien van hogere kerbstones, waardoor de coureurs deze bochten niet zomaar meer kunnen afsnijden. Het gaat om de Variante del Rettifilo, de eerste bocht na de start, en de Variante della Roggia.

In deze twee chicanes zijn zogenaamde combinatie-kerbstones geplaatst, die ook te vinden zijn in de Veedol-chicane op de Nürburgring en in de nieuwe chicane van Barcelona. De coureurs zullen voortaan dus iets voorzichtiger moeten zijn in deze bochten, om schade aan de voorvleugel of de bodem van de auto te voorkomen.

Bron: http://f1.gpupdate.net/nl(...)n-hogere-kerbstones/

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 15:27 schreef Noud_ het volgende:

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Toevallig dat Monza juist nu dit besluit neemt.. Juist het nemen van die kerbstones met veel snelheid is een zwakte van de F60, en dankzij deze aanpassing moeten alle bolides het in die chicanes rustiger aan doen.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 15:27 schreef Noud_ het volgende:

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Toevallig dat Monza juist nu dit besluit neemt.. Juist het nemen van die kerbstones met veel snelheid is een zwakte van de F60, en dankzij deze aanpassing moeten alle bolides het in die chicanes rustiger aan doen.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 12:57 schreef Giem het volgende:

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Alle mooie circuits hier gaan we verliezen door van die saaie zandbak races.. :S Als we ook weer zagen wat er dit weekend in Spa allemaal gebeurd, een grote crash, inhalen binnen door en buitenlangs.

Spa zou nu al moeten afwisselen met duitsland, krijgen we dus een leuke race om het jaar..

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Nico Rosberg is going to switch to Brawn to drive a silver-coloured car in 2010, according to the authoritative Swiss publication Blick.

In an article penned by the well-connected journalist veteran Roger Benoit, it is claimed that Mercedes will allow its contract with McLaren to lapse at the end of 2011, and by then the German manufacturer will own 75 per cent of Brawn GP.

Blick said the Brawn buyout is in conjunction with Arab partners, and will see the Brackley-built cars painted silver and with prominent Mercedes branding as of 2010.

Benoit also wrote that Rosberg is in fact not heading to McLaren, the British team that is currently 40 per cent owned by Mercedes, but to Brawn, despite chief executive Nick Fry saying recently he was happy to keep Rubens Barrichello alongside Jenson Button.

Rosberg said coyly last week that although still with multiple options for 2010, he had now at least honed in on one in particular.

"Nico is an option," Mercedes' motor sport president Norbert Haug said on Tuesday. "He is a candidate."

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 16:19 schreef Tarado het volgende:
Rosberg to drive Mercedes owned Brawn in 2010
09/09/2009
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Link naar het originele artikel in blick.ch http://www.blick.ch/sport(...)-holt-rosberg-128169

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 16:34 schreef bodylotion het volgende:

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Kun je daaruit opmaken dat BrawnGP straks het febrieksteam van Mercedes wordt? En misschien zelfs onder de naam Mercedes verder gaat?

Interessant trouwens, in deze setting zou Kimi wellicht volgend jaar terugkeren naar McLaren

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Race-day meeting key to Renault case

A meeting between Nelson Piquet, Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds hours before last year's Singapore Grand Prix is central to the race fixing allegations surrounding the Renault team, AUTOSPORT has learned.

With the FIA's World Motor Sport Council due to meet on September 21 for Renault to answer charges that the team caused a deliberate crash in Singapore last year to help Fernando Alonso win, sources have confirmed for the first time background details of the case.

AUTOSPORT understands that key to what happened in the race is the discussion that took place in one of Renault's offices at the Singapore track on the Sunday, where race tactics were discussed between Piquet, team principal Briatore and director of engineering Symonds.

Sources claim that in evidence submitted to the FIA by Nelson Piquet, the Brazilian driver says he was asked by Briatore and Symonds to crash deliberately early in the race so as to help Alonso win.

Piquet says that he agreed to do so because he felt uncomfortable about his situation at the team, with Renault having not renewed his contract for 2009 at that time - and Briatore was stalling on making a firm commitment. Piquet suggests that he only went ahead and caused the accident because he felt he would be rewarded for his actions.

In his evidence, Piquet claims that he was taken aside by Symonds after the first meeting and instructured that he should crash on lap 13 or 14, shortly after Alonso's scheduled first stop, at Turn 17.

The reason this part of the track was singled out was because there were no cranes present there to lift the car away, so any accident would virtually guarantee a safety car.

Piquet's claims have, however, been denied by both Briatore and Symonds in documents that are believed to have been submitted with the FIA. Although they confirm that the meeting between the three of them took place, both suggest that it was Piquet's own suggestion to cause an accident.

Sources claim that the Singapore race-fix matter came to light on July 26 - the day of Piquet's last race for Renault in Hungary - when his father Nelson contacted FIA president Max Mosley to make him aware of what had happened.

Piquet Jr. then visited the FIA's headquarters in Paris on July 30 to present a statement to FIA representatives, believed to be stewards' advisor Alan Donnelly, and external investigators from the Quest agency.

Following Piquet's testimony, the three stewards from the Singapore Grand Prix, plus two external investigators from Quest, were flown to the Belgian Grand Prix to conduct interviews with Renault representatives.

A report in Italian magazine Autosprint also suggests that telemetry data from Piquet's car has emerged as another reason why the matter has gone to the WMSC.

At Turn 17 where Piquet crashed, normally the rear wheels of the Renault would lose grip on the exit - requiring the driver to ease off the throttle briefly. However, on the lap he crashed, Piquet kept accelerating even though the rear wheels had lost grip.

Briatore is reported to have claimed that he was: "a victim of extortion by the Piquet family.

"I confirm the meeting with Piquet on Sunday morning, but nothing like that was ever talked about. I also remember that Piquet at Singapore was in a very fragile state of mind. Besides that, there are the audio recordings where I express disappointment when I see on the screens that Piquet had crashed."

Symonds is also reported as saying: "It's true, during the Sunday meeting with Piquet the issue of deliberately causing a SC deployment came up, but it was proposed by Piquet himself. It was just a conversation."

Renault has said it will not comment on the matter officially before the WMSC hearing later this month.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 18:51 schreef ElmarO het volgende:

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 19:11 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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Lees ik het nou goed? Dat er plannen waren of suggesties te crashen geven alle drie toe maar alleen over van wie de suggestie kwam zijn ze het niet eens.............dat ziet er niet goed uit

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 18:51 schreef ElmarO het volgende:

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I confirm the meeting with Piquet on Sunday morning, but nothing like that was ever talked about. I also remember that Piquet at Singapore was in a very fragile state of mind. Besides that, there are the audio recordings where I express disappointment when I see on the screens that Piquet had crashed.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 20:11 schreef vosss het volgende:
Who gives a fuck, Kimi naar BrawnGP/Mercedes volgend jaar

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 21:30 schreef Trystar het volgende:

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Maar wie moet er uit bij Brawn, Button of Barrichello?
Ik zie liever Button gaan, ik ben niet onder de indruk van hem. Nooit geweest.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 21:30 schreef Trystar het volgende:

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Maar wie moet er uit bij Brawn, Button of Barrichello?
Ik zie liever Button gaan, ik ben niet onder de indruk van hem. Nooit geweest.

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 21:31 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
Wat ik heel gek vind en eigenlijk bijna bewijs dat het Renault-geval he-le-maal niet snor zit is dat Alonso hier buiten wordt gehouden.

Waarom was Alonso niet bij die meeting? Een meeting met alleen Briatore, Symmonds en Piquet?
Wist Alonso zogenaamd hier niets van zodat zijn WK veilig zou zijn (deniability)?

En -als het Piquet's idee zou zijn- hoe kan Nelson als rookie een meeting bijeenroepen met de bazen (en dan zo'n belachelijk idee opperen waar de bazen dan kennelijk op ingaan)?

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Op woensdag 9 september 2009 21:59 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Da's m'n hele punt juist ... ik geloof best dat Alonso er niet bij was (de beste manier om te beschermen is als hij er niets vanaf weet) maar ik vind dat juist wel heel vreemd ... een race-meeting zonder de #1 coureur.

Snappie? Het is een beetje net zo verdacht als een secretaresse die sigaren komt brengen in de Oval Office terwijl de vrouw er niet bij is.

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 10:11 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone pockets 15 per cent pay rise while sport loses millions

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 10:11 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone pockets 15 per cent pay rise while sport loses millions

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Op maandag 7 september 2009 23:30 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Dat denk ik niet ... je weet vast wel wat een accu weegt ^^

En ja, het is een prachtsysteem ... ze hebben het mechanisch opgelost en dat is voor een F1 auto toch wel bijzonder.

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Fernando Alonso knew nothing of the alleged plan for Nelson Piquet to crash deliberately at last year's Singapore Grand Prix in a bid to help him win the race, AUTOSPORT has learned.

While the focus of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council hearing later this month now appears to revolve around what took place in a pre-race meeting between Piquet, Flavio Briatore and Pat Symonds, it has emerged that Alonso was not involved in any of the tactics.

AUTOSPORT understands that Alonso was interviewed at the Belgian Grand Prix as part of the FIA investigation into exactly what took place in Singapore last year.

Sources have revealed that he told the stewards, plus representatives of the Quest agency and lawyers Sidley Austin LLP, that he was unaware that Piquet planned to crash deliberately early in the race.

It is understood that Alonso told the investigators that he had accepted his strategy to stop so early in the race simply because he wanted an 'aggressive' approach to the event.

A report submitted ahead of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council hearing into the matter, which takes place in Paris on September 21, confirms that Alonso "knew nothing of the alleged plan to cause a deliberate crash."

Sources have also revealed that race engineers at Renault were also unaware of any plan for Piquet to crash - with some of them having also been interviewed in Belgium.

It is understood that one engineer even questioned Piquet after the Singapore race about exactly what happened when he spun into the wall on lap 14 of the race. The Brazilian replied that he had simply lost control of the car.

There was also some debate on the pit wall during the race when Alonso was brought into the pits on lap 12 of the race - which was earlier than his fuel load would have allowed him to go.

Radio transcripts of the race, which have been obtained by the FIA, show that director of engineering Symonds did not share the concerns of fellow team members about making such an early stop – telling the team: "No, no, it's going to be alright."

Piquet claims that in the pre-race meeting in Singapore he was asked to crash deliberately in the race to help Alonso win, while Symonds and Briatore are both adamant that the idea came from the Brazilian driver himself.

Renault has said it will issue no comment about the matter prior to the FIA hearing later this month.

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 09:04 schreef bodylotion het volgende:
Lola reveals 2010 F1 car model

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 14:25 schreef Tarado het volgende:
Official statement Piquet with FIA about incident

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 16:04 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
Briatore hangt, als je het mij vraagt (effe los van vriendjes en doofpotten)

In ander "nieuws"
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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 14:25 schreef Tarado het volgende:
Official statement Piquet with FIA about incident

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Santander voor vijf jaar sponsor van Ferrari
10 september 2009

Santander is tijdens een bijeenkomst in het Italiaanse Monza officieel gepresenteerd als sponsor van Ferrari. De Spaanse bank komt over van McLaren, waar zij in 2007 sponsor van werd omdat Fernando Alonso daar ging rijden. Volgens berichten is de sponsoring van Santander een voorbode dat Alonso voor Ferrari gaat rijden.

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 16:15 schreef Stiggie het volgende:

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Nelson neemt wraak.

Ouch...

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Nederland steunt Ari Vatanen als FIA-president

Een groep van veertien FIA-leden, waaronder Nederland, heeft de steun uitgesproken voor Ari Vatanen, die een gooi doet naar het FIA-presidentschap later dit jaar. Vatanen neemt het dan op tegen oud-Ferrari-teambaas Jean Todt, die ook de gepensioneerde Max Mosley wil vervangen.

De veertien landen die Vatanen in zijn campagne voor het FIA-presidentschap steunen zijn: Australie, Duitsland, Finland, Canada, Oeganda, Jamaica, Nederland, Zweden, Zuid-Afrika, Ierland, Jordanie, Peru, Zwitserland en Turkije. Deze landen hebben een brief geschreven naar de andere leden van de FIA, waarin ze hun steun aan Vatanen geven en de leden adviseren om snel te volgen.

"We denken dat de FIA behoefte heeft aan een president die de capaciteiten en mogelijkheden heeft om met respect en enthousiasme over alle verschillende onderdelen te spreken van de sport," staat in de brief. "De unieke achtergrond van Vatanen bevat onder andere een carriere in het Europese parlement. Tijdens zijn succesvolle carriere in de rallysport werd hij ook nog eens wereldkampioen."

"Als een woordvoerder voor de FIA, waar media-aandacht en diplomatiek erg belangrijk bij zijn tegenwoordig, komt Ari als een zeer geschikte kandidaat naar boven. Hij kan in de toekomst een sport creeren, waar eerlijkheid hoog in het vaandel zal staan."

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 17:55 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Kun je wel laten zien dat je loyaal bent aan je team maar je laat tegelijk zien dat je schijt hebt aan de sport en daar dus ook niet genoeg liefde voor hebt.

En is het wel loyaliteit? Zou Nelson bijvoorbeeld ook Alonso de baan af gecrashed hebben in opdracht van Ferrari of McLaren met de belofte dattie daar volgend jaar kon rijden? Kennelijk heeft Nelson er heel veel voor over om een stoeltje te krijgen.

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 18:43 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Kweet 't niet ... meeste van die gasten komen de F1 binnen alsof het heilig is.
Maargoed ... als de FIA Nelson immuniteit wil geven zoals die Brazo-bron zegt dan zal er inderdaad wel meer achter steken ... bovendien zijn de team-eigenaren wat dat betreft verantwoordelijk, vinnik.

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 18:54 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:


Flavio-gate, here we come!

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Op donderdag 10 september 2009 16:58 schreef bodylotion het volgende:

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The Renault team and its boss Flavio Briatore have begun criminal proceedings against Nelson Piquet Junior and Nelson Piquet Senior following an attempt "to blackmail" the French squad.

"The ING Renault F1 Team and its Managing Director Flavio Briatore personally, wish to state that they have commenced criminal proceedings against Nelson Piquet Junior and Nelson Piquet Senior in France concerning the making of false allegations and a related attempt to blackmail the team into allowing Mr Piquet Jnr to drive for the remainder of the 2009 season," said Renault in a statement on Friday.

"The matter will also be referred to the Police in the UK."

More to follow.

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Q. Would you still like to see Michael Schumacher back one day?

LDM: I told him last night and this morning in my office in Maranello to be careful with his motorcycle racing – you are going too far and you have to be fit sooner or later to be back in F1.

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Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 12:39 schreef Fluffy_Augurk het volgende:
Leuke uitspraak van Luca Di Montezemolo:
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Volledige Q&A hier:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78462

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BMW Sauber, Lotus and Epsilon Euskadi are the three teams that are being evaluated for the final grid slot in Formula 1 next year.

The FIA has narrowed down its selection for the 13th place on the grid, and is expected to decide in the next few days which of the outfits has been successful.

BMW Sauber is currently looking for a buyer, while Lotus' plans, revealed by AUTOSPORT last week, are believed to be backed by the Malaysian government.

Epsilon has funding in place after missing out on the first round of new team entries.

FIA president Max Mosley said on Friday that he expected an announcement about which team had got the place shortly after this weekend's Italian Grand Prix.

"Finally last night we got the final offers from the three most serious teams and in the next day or two, together with the due diligence people we'll assess them and then we'll pick one of them," said Mosley at Monza on Friday.

"I expect something early next week."

Mosley said that BMW Sauber had asked for more time than originally planned to present its plans for 2010.

"BMW Sauber are one of the three but of course they are now effectively a new team because they didn't sign the Concorde Agreement," he explained. "We were asked to give them another week to produce their documentation and answer further questions which they have done."

Mosley said he had no doubts that the three new teams - Manor Grand Prix, Campos Grand Prix and Team US F1 – were all on course with their plans to be on the grid in 2010.

"They seem fine," he explained. "I think the Cosworth engine may surprise a few people as well."

When asked specifically about US F1, amid speculation that the team may be behind schedule to get its car ready, Mosley said: "This is the rumour. We sent some people over there and it's not quite what it sounds. Someone is going over again at the beginning of October.

"There's all sorts of rumours about them but they say they are very serious, so we have to take them at face value."

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Q. In 2007 you said that McLaren had polluted the world championship in the spy case. Now, with Renault, there are suggestions that if guilty they changed the outcome of a race and the world title battle. How serious is the FIA treating the matter, and what sort of punishment will be handed out if they are guilty?

Max Mosley: Well, if, and it is a very big if, they are guilty, obviously it is very serious indeed. But we are in a situation at the moment where we have heard one side of the story and have investigated to the best of our ability. Now we are waiting for Renault's side of the story, and it is only when we have got both sides, and both of them have been heard, that one can actually reach a conclusion. So, in most places, you assume someone is innocent until they are proven guilty. And that is the situation we are in at the moment.

Q. Do you think there is more evidence to come to light then? We have seen a lot of documents get leaked over the past 48 hours?

MM: Yes, that is actually very unfortunate because it is just one side of the story. We are quite genuinely curious as to how that happened. Next time, when we send out to 20 or 30 people, we will probably arrange it in such a way that we can tell who is leaking stuff. We don't know how it happened. But none of that means anything. What means something is when we get their defence, which will not be until next week.

Q. If they are found guilty, will it be as severe for you as the McLaren spy case?

MM: Well, it is not really for me to say - it would be for the World Motor Sport Council. On the one side, one of the bad things about McLaren was that they did not tell the truth, so that went against them. But on the other hand, what is alleged to have been done here, is probably more serious. But to assess that, it is a matter for the world council, it is not really for me to say.

Q. You say that Renault's side of their case will come out at the hearing, but in the documents that have been leaked there are interviews with Pat Symonds and comments from Flavio Briatore, who were questioned by investigators at Spa. Is that not enough from their side?

MM: I think that one must expect there to be more. We originally gave them until [last] Monday to put in all the documents, and then they have asked for more time, which they have been given until the middle of next week. And, we have got no idea what they will produce. But in the nature of things, there are always two sides to a story.

Q. In the documents that have been leaked, can you confirm that they are authentic?

MM: I haven't seen anything which I believe to be a forgery.

Q. In the McLaren case in 2007 after the Hungary incident and Fernando Alonso contacting you, you sent a letter to the drivers promising immunity if they provided evidence. Has any promise be made to Nelson Piquet on a similar basis for his co-operation?

MM: Yes. We have said to him that, and I don't know exactly how it was phrased, but he has been told that if he tells us the truth then he will not be proceeded against individually. It is exactly the same as it was for Alonso.

Q. You said before that the bad thing about McLaren was that they did not tell the truth, so can we conclude from that that it would be better for Renault to tell the truth about what has happened, as the circumstances seem to point out that the story of Nelson is true?

MM: I would not go quite that far. Certainly they should tell the truth, but what that is, I would not speculate. It may be completely different to what we've heard so far, we just don't know.

Q. Are you of the belief that Fernando Alonso is an innocent party in all this, and that he was not aware of what was going on?

MM: We have no evidence to suggest that Alonso knew what was going on.

Q. You mentioned that you have granted Nelson immunity in the matter, but if you come down on the side of Renault then will Nelson be pursued for not telling the truth?

MM: No. There is also a situation where if you were not sure, then you would have to give the benefit of the doubt to Renault. I think. It depends what the World Council thinks. But there are a whole succession of things – the World Council will decide whatever it decides, and then they will have the right of appeal to that to the FIA International Court of Appeal. And if we did something outrageous they could go to a civil court. There are a lot of things we could do, we will just try and do it absolutely fairly and balanced. You can never come to a conclusion until you have heard both sides to a story.

Q. You have talked about the truth and lies of a driver – but Piquet after the crash denied that he had done it on purpose. So, did he not lie?

MM: Sure. The thing is that, one of the things that they will say is that he is not telling the truth. It is obvious. They have to say that. But then you have got to look at all the circumstances.

Q. But it is not too late after 12 months to discover something that people suspected at the time?

MM: It is like, in the real world, fraud goes on forever. If you cheat the tax man normally, if you don't declare your money, it is three or six years – there is a limitation. But if you are fraudulent, it goes on forever. What we cannot do is we cannot interfere with the results of the championship, or indeed of that race, because of Article 179B of the International Sporting Code. On the 30th November the championship is finished, whatever. But of course if someone has done something they should not do, they can still get a penalty. So it is open.

Q. Did the FIA suspect that there was something strange at the time?

MM: No. We had no reason to believe that. There was a lot of speculation on the web but there is always speculation about all sorts of things. We cannot launch an inquiry just on the basis of speculation – but when somebody comes and gives us a sworn statement then obviously we have got to investigate it. The other side of it is, that if the driver comes and give you this story, you can't just say, 'no we'll ignore that, it's 12 months ago, let's forget it.' It goes to the root of motorsport.

Q. Do you think race-fixing is on a similar par to doping in cycling?

MM: We try very hard to demonstrate that if there is something it comes out. The effort we made with McLaren was extreme. People will say it was done as a vendetta or for personal reasons. It's completely untrue.

You are put in a position where you've some information, and you have to pursue it. You can't just forget it. This was the situation with McLaren, and it was very annoying. It wasted an enormous amount of time and money, and Renault is taking a lot of time and money as well which is annoying. But if you want the sport to run properly you have to investigate. What comes out in the end is another matter, but there has to be a proper investigation."

Q. There was a story two days after Belgium saying the FIA had unearthed other incidents outside the Singapore case. Is that the case?

MM: I don't know where that came from. But for us, we've looked at all the surrounding circumstances, put that in a dossier and sent it to Renault and the World Council, and now we're waiting for them to answer. Until that happens, no conclusion can be drawn.

Q. What do you make of the defence of Renault saying that this investigation is wanted by the FIA?

MM: I suppose they have to say something, but it is fundamentally implausible. Number one, we get a report from the driver. We have to investigate. When we investigate we find there are certain individual bits of evidence, so we do a very serious investigation.

If they are innocent, they will have a complete answer, so there is no point in us pursuing them if we thought they had done nothing , if it was some sort of conspiracy because it would be demonstrated and we would look stupid.

The only reason we've done it is because these things have been put on the table, and for me personally it's really quite annoying because it's wasting time which I would rather spend doing something else and I've other things to do. Looking at it from the other side, if we just said we would ignore it then the whole would turn around and say Formula 1 is not a sport, it's a business – that because this is a big car company they're not going to do anything; because Bernie's friends with Flavio and they've got a football club, they're not going to do anything. The world would see us as corrupt.

Q. So therefore any penalty, should you find Renault guilty, would have to be severe to prove you are fair?

MM: Depending again on all the circumstances, probably. If you look at any other sport, if somebody fixes the result then it's usually taken seriously.

Fixing is one degree worse than cheating, like if you're a cyclist and you take dope, that's cheating. If you bribe the other cyclists, or you get somebody to have a crash in the peloton so the yellow jersey guy crashes, that's more serious.

Then if it puts human life at risk, whether it's the spectators, the marshals or the drivers, then it's more serious again. The moment we talk about that, we sort of imply they are guilty, but we don't know. Until they put their defence in, we've got to assume they're innocent.

Q. The world has changed since the McLaren case. There is not a team who could swallow a 100 million dollar fine now, which would see Renault walk away...

MM: To put that in context, the halfway stage was the September meeting when we had the emails and we were able to prove clearly that people other than the one man within McLaren had knowledge.

So first of all they turned up at the first meeting and didn't tell the truth, and secondly, they had made use of this material. We didn't know to what extent. Now the normal thing to have done would have been to exclude them from the 2007 championship.

If we'd done that, nobody anywhere in the world would have criticised. On top of that, we learned when we fully investigated in December, information that it was available to the people doing the 2008 car. We've an email from the chief engineer on the '07 car and the chief engineer on the '08 car referring to their mole in Ferrari. It's there. We found it.

We also found an email saying that Ron had given instructions not to use quick shift until the FIA aggro is over, so it was right deep in the company.

So you had to not only exclude them from 2007, you would have had to have exclude them from 2008 because they had information that could have been used for the 2008 cars.

If we'd excluded McLaren from 2007 and 2008, the business was finished. Shut down. 1,400 people lose their jobs. There's no way they could have survived that.

Probably if we had excluded them from 2007 just, not even 2008, that would have, if not shut down the business, had an enormously damaging effect on their sponsors, Mercedes and everything else. So the truth of the matter was that the 100 million, although it's a huge amount of money and sounds a huge amount of money, was actually a very light penalty because we didn't exclude them.

Then you've got people in the paddock and a lot of the commentators, literally half-witted, saying this is such a serious penalty when those same people, if we'd excluded them from the championship in 2007 and probably put them out of business, would have not criticised the sporting penalty because you couldn't. It was just the 100 million, as it were.

And actually the 100 million was much less than the penalty of excluding them from the championship. The trouble is that we've got a collection of people who speak in the paddock without thinking, without understanding, who are very stupid and superficial. So they keep going on and on about this massive fine when in fact it was the least we could do, and it demonstrably did not interfere with McLaren's business - witness the fact that they won the drivers' championship the following year.

It was a nasty blow for them, which it needed to be, but it was not like excluding them even in 2007, never mind both years. It's a constant source of annoyance to me when they say 'this outrageous fine'. It's always the really stupid people who haven't thought the thing through.

Q. Would the same principle apply to Renault? 695 people could potentially suffer, who didn't know about the plot?

MM: That's the difficult bit but in the end, again, Renault have to decide. First of all they have got to make their case for the defence and secondly it's very much up to them. It's up to Renault, the ball is in their court. They must decide what they want to do.

Q. What could be the penalty if they guilty?

MM: It could be anything up to disqualification. Because that's what's set out in the code. Disqualification means you are out, finished.

Q. From the 2008 championship?

MM: Out. Total. Exclusion forever, gone, finished. That's the worst that could happen, but don't for a moment get the impression I'm saying that would happen or will happen. That is the worst that could happen.

Q. But that could be a consequence of the penalty, they could walk away…

MM: When Toyota were caught in 1995 or 1996 with the dodgy air inlet, we excluded them for a year. Then they voluntarily excluded themselves for a further year and then they came back. It was a very Japanese sort of mea culpa. So you don't know.

I shouldn't really speculate about it all because we just don't know. All I can officially say at this point is that we haven't had the defence and until we have a hearing we've got to presume they are innocent.

Q. Did you have a chance to talk to Carlos Ghosn about the matter?

MM: Not about this issue. I last met him in July, before this happened. I haven't spoken to him and I haven't spoken about this to Bernard Rey. I've had a couple of conversations with Flavio.

Q. How would you imagine Ghosn would react to a big penalty?

MM: I don't think it would be so much how he would react if there was a big penalty to us. If he thought the team had done it he would probably be unhappy but we don't know, we haven't heard their defence.

Q. The telemetry data appears rather damning though?

MM: This is true but we don't know. They might turn up at the hearing with 13 examples of where he has spun off and the telemetry shows he kept his foot on it the whole time. Then the whole picture changes. We just don't know.

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FIA president Max Mosley says that race fix claims surrounding Renault are being viewed as more serious than outright cheating by the governing body, after revealing on Friday that Nelson Piquet has been granted immunity.

Renault has been called to appear before the FIA's World Motor Sport Council on September 21 to answer charges that it deliberately told Nelson Piquet to crash in last year's Singapore Grand Prix to help Fernando Alonso win the race.

Those claims have been denied by the team, which has begun criminal action against Piquet and his father Nelson for alleged blackmail over the suggestions.

Mosley said the FIA had no choice but to launch a proper investigation into the matter after Piquet had informed the governing body of the events, and he made it clear on Friday about how grave he deemed race-fixing to be.

"If you look at any other sport, if somebody fixes the result then it's usually taken seriously," said Mosley, speaking to selected media including AUTOSPORT in his office at the Monza circuit. "Fixing is one degree worse than cheating.

"If you're a cyclist and you take dope, that's cheating. If you bribe the other cyclists, or you get somebody to have a crash in the peloton so the yellow jersey guy crashes, that's more serious.

"Then if it puts human life at risk, whether it's the spectators, the marshals or the drivers, then it's more serious again. The moment we talk about that, we sort of imply they (Renault) are guilty, but we don't know. Until they put their defence in, we've got to assume they're innocent."

Mosley said it was too early to make a judgement, as the governing body was still waiting for Renault to provide its defence submissions.

"We originally gave them until [last] Monday to put in all the documents, and then they have asked for more time, which they have been given until the middle of next week. And, we have got no idea what they will produce. But in the nature of things, there are always two sides to a story."

He added: "Well, if, and it is a very big if, they are guilty, obviously it is very serious indeed. But we are in a situation at the moment where we have heard one side of the story and have investigated to the best of our ability.

"Now we are waiting for Renault's side of the story, and it is only when we have got both sides, and both of them have been heard, that one can actually reach a conclusion. So, in most places, you assume someone is innocent until they are proven guilty. And that is the situation we are in at the moment."

Mosley has confirmed that Piquet himself has been promised immunity from being punished over the matter, as part of the deal for him providing evidence.

"We have said to him that, and I don't know exactly how it was phrased, but he has been told that if he tells us the truth then he will not be proceeded against individually," he said. "It is exactly the same as it was for Alonso [in the McLaren case in 2007]."

Mosley has also expressed regret that documents relating to the Renault trial were leaked this week - and says that action will be taken in the future to ensure that it does not happen again.

"That is actually very unfortunate because it is just one side of the story," he said. "We are quite genuinely curious at to how that happened. Next time, when we send out to 20 or 30 people, we will probably arrange it in such a way that we can tell who is leaking stuff.

"We don't know how it happened. But none of that means anything. What means something is when we get their defence, which will not be until next week."

Mosley confirmed that the most severe penalty of total exclusion from the world championship was a possibility if Renault was found guilty, and he clarified that it was now too late for the result of last year's Singapore Grand Prix or world championship to be changed.

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Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 14:53 schreef Tarado het volgende:
Mosley: Race-fixing worse than cheating

By Jonathan Noble Friday, September 11th 2009, 11:55 GMT
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Mosley has confirmed that Piquet himself has been promised immunity from being punished over the matter, as part of the deal for him providing evidence.

Vind ik wel bedenkelijk dit

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Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 15:44 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:

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Niet anders als met De La Rosa en Alonso 2 jaar geleden in het spionageschandaal met McLaren. Daar waren ze actief bij betrokken en kregen ook immuniteit als ze hun verhaal vertelden.

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Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 15:49 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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Ja maar Alonso heeft niet een auto tijdens een race opzettelijk in de muur gereden en daarbij zowel het publiek, stewards en andere coureurs in gevaar gebracht, is niet te vergelijken.

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Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 15:57 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:

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Klopt, maar dan nog is het de enige manier om de echte schuldigen (Briatore, Symonds) te pakken, anders had Piquet nooit zijn verhaal verteld.

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Op vrijdag 11 september 2009 14:50 schreef Tarado het volgende:
Q & A with Max Mosley

By Jonathan Noble Friday, September 11th 2009, 12:36 GMT
In 2007 you said that McLaren had polluted the world championship in the spy case.

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En dat is precies de reden waarom Hamilton 'per ongeluk' op het verkeerde knopje drukte en het kampioenschap liet schieten.

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Renault boss Flavio Briatore has insisted that his team has done nothing wrong amid the Singapore Grand Prix race-fix controversy - after boldly predicting the truth of the matter will come out in public soon.

The flamboyant Italian broke his silence about the accusations made against him at Monza on Friday, as he told a select group of media that his decision to take criminal action against the Piquets was proof about how sure he was his team is innocent of the claims made by Nelson Piquet.

"The fact that we put a plan for blackmail [action] against the two Piquets, means I think we are very confident that the truth will come out," said Briatore.

Renault is to face the FIA's World Motor Sport Council in Paris on September 21 to answer charges that it deliberately caused a crash in last year's Singapore Grand Prix to help Fernando Alonso win.

Speaking about the looming WMSC action, Briatore said: "You know what? Whatever happens, if someone goes against the rules, they go against the rules. If I tell you to go rob a bank – afterwards, you decide whether to rob the bank or not.

"I don't feel I have any responsibility, and we don't feel we have done absolutely anything [wrong]. In the case of Piquet we go to the World Council. But the fact already that we have put a criminal plan to Piquet is because we have enough confidence to be successful - the team and myself."

The matter appears to revolve around an alleged pre-race meeting that took place in Briatore's office hours before that race – where Piquet claims that he was asked to crash early in the race to bring out a safety car.

Briatore declined to comment on the specifics of the events that took place that day, but said he had never known of any occasion where a driver had been asked to crash on purpose to help a team.

"No. Never. Fernando only won the race because Massa had a problem, Kubica had a problem," he said. "There were six or seven problems.

"I think Barrichello stopped in the same place as Piquet. What is possible on lap 14, with 40 laps to go, to determine somebody winning the race? There was another pitstop, another safety car. On lap 14, how is it possible to know what is going to happen?"

Briatore also hit out at the way that details of the evidence against Renault had been leaked to the media – something which he thinks has been damaging for his team and the sport. The FIA has already begun an investigation into identifying who distributed the confidential information.

"The bad press I think was completely unfair - some leaks in the press to accuse somebody before they had the possibility to defend themselves," he said.

"I think this is really not honest, this is really damaging and this really takes the sport in dispute [sic]. We probably don't know where it's coming from, but this takes the sport in dispute [sic] because at the moment it is the accusation about Renault with no possibility for us to defend ourselves, because we respect our word to the FIA.

"We don't want to do any comment and all the comment is around you guys, seeing what is leaked in the press. I don't want to put any comment. I just put, this is making damage for Renault and puts the image of Formula 1 and the sport in dispute.

"All these things, if there is an allegation then you go to the World Council and you discuss in the World Council. You don't need to discuss in front of the public opinion and put 500 people working for the team in this kind of danger."

Briatore also offered some words on how he felt about Piquet, as he said that all he had wanted was for the Brazilian to deliver performance when he raced for the team.

"I feel Nelsinho is a very spoiled guy," he said. "Every time he is racing it is because he owns the team as well. He is very fragile. We tried everything. What you want is only performance."

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Q. Is this the biggest crisis you have been involved in in your whole life, because there are huge allegations at stake here - some of which have been aimed at your personally?

Flavio Briatore: I hope it is not against me personally, because the fact is that we put a plan today in the criminal court in Paris against the two Piquets. The fact that we put a plan for blackmail [action] against the two Piquets, means I think we are very confident that the truth will come out.

Q. But blackmail is a very serious charge to make against somebody?

FB: We have enough confidence, and our lawyers – myself and Renault – we have confidence about this happening.

Q. Can you confirm the nature of the blackmail – is it true that Piquet Sr. approached you that he would go to the FIA with evidence if you did not reward his son with a new contract?

FB: You know what. I don't think it is correct today to confirm what is the plan to be put against the Piquets. I think it is enough, I tell you, if myself and Renault decide to put the criminal plans to the two Piquets in the high court of Paris, I think that is enough. I don't want to comment why – or prove it. If we have done it, it is because we have enough confidence – about 80 percent of confidence.

Q. So why have you only started speaking publicly about the matter today, which is a fortnight since the allegations were first aired?

FB: When we have this inquisition from the FIA, they asked for us not to speak to anybody. We sent a statement that we are working with our solicitors, and lawyers, for all the evidence we have. It is not simple as Renault to put plans against blackmail for somebody. We had a meeting with Renault, we saw all the evidence we had and after we decide, after three or four days, we were ready. I think what we tried to do was to be ready with those plans.

We are sure that we have enough evidence to put the plans to the two Piquets in the criminal court. We also needed the authorisation as well of Renault, as they are not a little company. You need to go through there, maybe somebody was not there as they were travelling. We tried to do everything that was possible to achieve the solution. Now we have done it.

Q. Can we talk about some of the specifics? Nelson had said there was a meeting on the Sunday of Singapore with you and Pat Symonds where you discussed a deliberate safety car, that Pat took him to one side to show him where to crash on the circuit, and that after the race you said 'thank you' to him. Can you talk about that? Did he just make this all up?

FB: If, if, we put the plans for blackmail [action] against somebody then it is because I don't want to talk about the specifics. The fact that we put the criminal plans to the Piquets is because I don't want to go into the specifics as it is part of the World Motor Sport Council.

If you see my statement, and I don't think it is out already! I don't think it is out, but if you read my statement it is very clear that I answered all the questions. I don't know if it will be out tomorrow, I don't know if it is coming out! I don't think my statement will be leaked.

Q. Did a meeting take place?

FB: I have put everything into my statement.

Q. Did that meeting occur?

FB: I have answered all these questions. I was very clear in Spa. The FIA have my statement, and it's quite clear.

Q. Will this case go through the courts before the FIA WMSC meeting?

FB: I'm not sure about that. I don't know the speed of the criminal court.

Q. Are you confident you will win the case on September 21?

FB: It's not a question of confidence, it's a question of presenting our case, our defence. I feel really upset, really sad. What you have seen with the leak, everything was against Renault. Wherever it has come, it has caused big damage to Renault, and the members of Renault.

It's not just me and the drivers, it's the 500 to 600 people working for Renault, and making Renault think of not being part of this world any more.

Q. Why do you think Nelson Piquet crashed deliberately?

FB: Nelson has crashed 17 times.

Q. Why did you give him a drive for another year if he was so bad?

FB: I didn't have anybody else. I had an option to take Nelson after the 30th of September, and I didn't take it.

Q. What are your feelings towards Nelson and his father at the moment?

FB: I feel Nelsinho is a very spoiled guy. Every time he is racing it is because he owns the team as well. He is very fragile. We tried everything. What you want is only performance.

Q. But if he is so spoiled, why did you take him on as his manager?

FB: Nelson's father asked me to take him. It was quite simple, and he had had a good season in GP2. Him and Hamilton were pretty much together.

If you look at his first year, he was second in Germany, and he was all right in his first year. But I know only in Brazil, that Fernando was ready for us because we were still negotiating between Ferrari, etc, etc. I had in mind to put Romain in the car, but I believed he was too young. This is no secret.

In 2008 Nelson was making 1.5 million dollars a year. I renewed the contract at one million. I put the clause in the contract that if he is not performing he would be out in Germany. If somebody had done me a favour I would have done something different.

Q. During these difficult times for the team, has there been any moment when you have thought about resigning?

FB: We already had a difficult time after the race in Budapest. We didn't believe it was fair what the stewards did to us because it was a normal accident. It happens all the time.

So what happened in Budapest was really hard for us. We wouldn't have let the driver go if the tyre was not on properly. To be disqualified for the race in Spain, there was a lot of bad press for Renault. It was already very hard for Renault. We spent all of August preparing to defend ourselves for the appeal. We won the appeal, but it was very unfair what happened to Renault.

Q. Have you ever heard of a team issuing an instruction to a driver to crash?

FB: No. Never. Fernando only won the race because Massa had a problem, Kubica had a problem. There were six or seven problems.

I think Barrichello stopped in the same place as Piquet. What is possible on lap 14, with 40 laps to go, to determine somebody winning the race. There was another pit stop, another safety car. On lap 14, how is it possible to know what is going to happen? What is possible that on lap 14 you know what is going on?.

Q. The stakes here are very high though, aren't they. You could be banned from F1 because of this?

FB: You know what, I don't need to look for a new job. I am pretty much happy for what I am and I'm not looking for a salary.

Q. But you've got big ambitions in F1?

FB: I don't think so that I have that big ambitions. What I decide to do in Formula 1 is try with FOTA to put straight Formula 1 and make sure everything is clear, everything is correct. The deal that we signed with FOTA...

Q. Are you worried that they might throw you out?

FB: This is not happening....I don't want to do any comment about that because let's see what happens. I think you see my statement. I know already what the judgement of the stewards in this situation that we have already, what is my position.

Q. How much is bad press damaging the reputation of Renault and affecting the team going forward?

FB: The bad press I think was completely unfair - some leaks in the press to accuse somebody before they had the possibility to defend themselves. I think this is really not honest, this is really damaging and this really takes the sport in dispute [sic]. We probably don't know where it's coming from, but this takes the sport in dispute [sic] because at the moment it is the accusation about Renault with no possibility for us to defend ourselves, because we respect our word to the FIA.

We don't want to do any comment and all the comment is around you guys, seeing what is leaked in the press. I don't want to put any comment. I just put, this is making damage for Renault and puts the image of Formula 1 and the sport in dispute [sic].

All these things, if there is an allegation then you go to the World Council and you discuss in the World Council. You don't need to discuss in front of the public opinion and put 500 people working for the team in this kind of danger.

Q. Do you think someone is trying to discredit you?

FB: You know what? Whatever happens, if someone goes against the rules, they go against the rules. If I tell you to go rob a bank – afterwards, you decide whether to rob the bank or not. I don't feel I have any responsibility, and we don't feel we have done absolutely anything [wrong]. In the case of Piquet we go to the World Council. But the fact already that we have put a criminal plan to Piquet is because we have enough confidence to be successful - the team and myself.

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Onzin. Toen hij per ongeluk de speed limiter aanzette had McLaren die straf al lang en breed gekregen en betaald en was de case al closed.