Revolutie in Libi� #51 : Hoe het verder gaat

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 12:57 schreef quirigua het volgende:

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Waar is de dochter van Gh. eigenlijk ?

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:09 schreef Muridae het volgende:
Het zou schandalig zijn wanneer hij in Europa asiel zou krijgen...

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:16 schreef shomila het volgende:
bencnn benwedeman
Libyan govt forces outside Bin Jawad firing barrages of Grad surface-surface missles in direction of Al Sidre west of Ras Lanouf. #Libya
2 minutes ago

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:18 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Dan is de oppositie dus aan het doorstoten vanuit Ras Lanuf? Of Al Sidre is zelf in opstand gekomen.

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12.09pm: An update on the Libyan jet that has arrived in Cairo from AP:

An Egyptian airport official says a high-ranking member of the Libyan government has landed in Cairo saying he has a message from Muammar Gaddafi.
The official told The Associated Press that the head of Libya's logistics and supply authority arrived on a private jet Wednesday afternoon. Libyan embassy staff told Egyptian officials that Major Gen Abdul-Rahman bin Ali al-Saiid al-Zawi was carrying a message from Gaddafi.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:08 schreef Lagrinta het volgende:
Vienna, wat is dat toch? Er waren al eerder geruchten dat familieleden naar Wenen zouden reizen.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:56 schreef wdn het volgende:
Telegraaf meldt het ook nu

'Kadaffi is Libi� ontvlucht'
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An Egyptian airport official says a high-ranking member of the Libyan government has landed in Cairo saying he has a message from Muammar Gaddafi.
The official told The Associated Press that the head of Libya's logistics and supply authority arrived on a private jet Wednesday afternoon. Libyan embassy staff told Egyptian officials that Major Gen Abdul-Rahman bin Ali al-Saiid al-Zawi was carrying a message from Gaddafi.

12.08pm: Al-Jazeera suggest that at least one of the flights might taking a Libyan delegation to negotiate with the Arab League, which is based in Cairo. A meeting of the Arab League is due to take place on Saturday but the league has ruled out any Libyan participation.

The news station's Rawya Rageh has been tweeting that all three planes are now headed to Egypt:

The #Gaddafi family jet that landed in #Egypt had a military official on board who'll be meeting with Egypt's military rulers #Libya #Feb17

The two other #Gaddafi family jets that were initially headed to Europe now re-routed to #Egypt, as well #Libya #Feb17

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:59 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:

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Maar dat is niet waar.

The Guardian

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 14:02 schreef yavanna het volgende:

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Dat is dan vast 1 verklaring.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 14:08 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Gokje:

Hij probeert een no-fly zone tegen te houden of te vertragen, en misschien Egypte over te halen om iets tegen de rebellen te doen. Hij zit in de knel, ik denk niet dat ie al weg is.

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ZacAttak92 evidence of that Zintan tribes are fighting against qadaffi instead with as he stated

Libya : Libyan Military Caught by People in Zentan 07/03

#oplibya 19 minutes ago via Chromed Bird

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13.48 uur: Libische afvaardiging in Kairo voor Arabische Liga
Niet ��n, maar drie priv�jets van Gaddafi zijn de lucht in gegaan vandaag. Volgens Maltese luchtveersleiders hebben ze Wenen, Athene en Kairo als bestemming. Daar moet niet teveel achter gezocht worden aangezien regelmatig vluchten met deze toestellen worden gemaakt, ook sinds de opstanden in Libi�. De echtgenote van Gaddafis zoon Hannibal mocht vorige maand niet landen in haar vaderland Libanon. Dochter Aisha werd een dag later geweigerd door de luchtverkeersleiding van Malta, meldt The Guardian.

Volgens Al Jazeera zijn de twee familietoestellen die naar Wenen en Athene gingen van koers veranderd. De een zou teruggaan naar Tripoli, de ander naar Kairo. De Gaddafi-jet die eerder in Kairo landde met aan boord een hoogwaardigheidsbekleder uit Libi� zou volgens de nieuwszender willen praten met de Arabische Liga. Die houdt zaterdag een vergadering in Kairo maar weigerde tot nu toe Libische deelname daaraan.

13.57 uur:
Europa doet veel te weinig om kolonel Kadhafi aan te pakken. Dat vindt een groot deel van het Europees Parlement. EU-buitenlandco�rdinator Catherine Ashton komt niet veel verder dan het veroordelen van het geweld.

14.11 uur:
De Libische staats-tv toont gesprekken met wat de zender aankondigt als twee gewonde soldaten van de Gaddafi-troepen in een niet nader benoemd ziekenhuis. Ze zeggen de schade berokkent aan de staat door de vijanden van Libi� te betreuren. Een van de soldaten zegt dat buitenlanders de anti-regimestrijders versterken. Hij herhaalde de mening die Gaddafi vanochtend ook verkondigde in zijn speech (zie 10.01) dat het Algerijnen, Egyptenaren en Tunesi�rs zijn die geleid worden door Al Qaida.

14.25 uur: Flinke rookontwikkeling bij olieterminal
Drie dikke rookpluimen stijgen op bij Es Sider, een olieterminal in het oosten van Libi�. Troepen van Moammar Gaddafi lieten vandaag een hevig bombardement los op de opstandelingen die zich daar ophouden. De Reuters-correspondent ter plaatse zegt dat het nog onduidelijk is of de terminal zelf geraakt is. Maar een van de rookpluimen is de grootste die hij tot nu zag sinds de opstand begon.

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12.51pm: There has been fighting near near the east Libyan oil terminal of Es Sider, reports Reuters:

"The bombardment is further east from Es Sider, near where the rebels are now. They are firing back with rockets," said Reuters correspondent Mohammed Abbas on the frontline.
He said rebel forces moved out of Es Sider, a town they have controlled, after the bombardment. They have moved out of the town before only to retake it later.
"This is really very heavy bombardment from Gaddafi forces," said Abbas.

12.41pm: A fighter jet has been circling over Ras Lanuf but there have been no major clashes so far, reports Reuters. It says opposition forces have been staging periodic hit-and-run attacks on dug-in troops loyal to Gaddafi in the east of the country and resupplied their own frontline with guns and ammunition.

A warplane circled a rebel checkpoint at the main gate to the rebel-held oil town of Ras Lanuf which has sustained repeated air strikes in the past days. There were six anti-aircraft guns, two mortar launchers and boxes of ammunition at the gate waiting to go forward. One fighter was carefully assembling home-made bombs with small fuses and tins of TNT explosive.

"We're in a defensive position right now because of the heavy artillery ahead. We moved forward another five km (three miles)," rebel Colonel Masoud Mohammed.
The threat of heavy artillery and the defensive position was repeated by Colonel Bashir Abdul Qadr.

On Wednesday, there was one rebel army truck mounted with a multiple rocket launcher near the front, which lies along a barren stretch of desert and scrub roughly 550 km (340 miles) east of Tripoli between the towns of Bin Jawad and Ras Lanuf.
A Reuters correspondent also saw an armoured personnel carrier travelling away from the front. Another two sources, unarmed rebel volunteers, said there had been minor skirmishes at the front line at dawn, but no major military confrontations.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:01 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
Wat is er allemaal nog gebeurd?
Heb de laatste tijd niet zoveel tijd meer om het heel erg goed te volgen.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:01 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
Wat is er allemaal nog gebeurd?
Heb de laatste tijd niet zoveel tijd meer om het heel erg goed te volgen.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:07 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Ik denk dat ie z'n eigen olie-installatie gebombardeerd heeft.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:01 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
Wat is er allemaal nog gebeurd?
Heb de laatste tijd niet zoveel tijd meer om het heel erg goed te volgen.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:07 schreef shomila het volgende:

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Ze vechten nog steeds Gadaffi zit er nog steeds.
Er gaan geruchten dat hij mensen naar Egypte heeft gestuurd om de no-fly zone tegen te houden.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:09 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Het front zit een beetje vast omgeving Ras Lanuf. Zawya is nog steeds niet gevallen. Regerings vliegtuigen met diplomaten zijn naar Egypte om een no-fly zone tegen te houden.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:18 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Man op AJE noemt oppositie geen rebellen.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:21 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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ik snap die rebellen/oppositie discussie niet helemaal, komt toch op het zelfde neer

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:21 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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ik snap die rebellen/oppositie discussie niet helemaal, komt toch op het zelfde neer

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:22 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Nee. Als je het een burgeroorlog noemt hoeft/mag de internationale gemeenschap niet in te grijpen. Dan is het een interne aangelegenheid.
Woorden zijn heel belangrijk.

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1.50pm: The Guardian has a gallery of images from the Ras Jidr camp on the Tunisian border with Libya. It provides a glimpse into the conditions that greet the thousands of refugees who have fled Libya.

Another good photo gallery is on the New York Times website, which has more than 200 photos from Libya from the past two weeks.

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Big, black plumes of smoke rose above the terminal. It was not immediately possible to independently confirm the report that the storage tanks were hit or to ascertain if the cause was the bombardment by Gaddafi's forces or a stray rebel rocket. "We were standing over there in the direction of Es Sider. It was a fierce, random bombardment on us and then it hit the storage tanks," rebel fighter Abdel Salam Mohamed told Reuters.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:22 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
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15.57 uur: Huis van Sa�f Kadhafi gekraakt
Het huis van Kadhafi's zoon Sa�f in Londen is gekraakt. Dat melden verschillende media. De villa van tien miljoen pond in het Noord-Londense Hampstead Garden is vanmorgen bezet door activisten in solidariteit met de opstandelingen die vechten tegen Kadhafi. Een woordvoerder van de activisten zegt dat ze er geen vertrouwen in hebben dat de Britse regering het huis zal teruggeven aan het Libische volk "omdat ze een lange geschiedenis heeft van het ondersteunen van het regime van Kadhafi".

16.12 uur: Partijen geven elkaar de schuld voor brand
De Libische autoriteiten en de opstandelingen wijzen naar elkaar als schuldige voor de enorme brand in een olieterminal bij Ras Lanuf. Volgens de Libische staatstelevisie zijn door al-Qaida gesteunde groepen verantwoordelijk voor de explosies in de olie-opslagtanks. De opstandelingen zeggen juist dat legervliegtuigen een oliepijpleiding en de opslagtanks hebben gebombardeerd, meldt Reuters.

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HouSolidarity Saif gaddafi's london mansion has been occupied in solidarity with the revolution in libya. 7 Winnington Close N2, East Finchley. Twitter - 1 uur geleden

HamandHigh BREAKING NEWS: Activists have occupied Saif Gaddafi's Hampstead Garden Suburb mansion in support of the Libyan revolution, they say. Twitter - 1 uur geleden

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Squatters take over Colonel Gaddafi's son's �11m London mansion

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 15:21 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Poll HP/de Tijd

Kadhafi duikt later vandaag op in...

[ ] Saoedi-Arabi�, waar ex-dictators nog ouderwets in de watten worden gelegd.
[ ] Paraguay, waar je nog ouderwets kunt verdwijnen in de cokejungle.
[ ] Tripoli, alwaar hij vanuit een botsautootje verkondigt alles onder controle te hebben.
[ ] Hij duikt nergens op. De man verdwijnt van de aardbodem � la Osama bin Laden.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:27 schreef deleriouz het volgende:
Nice!!

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http://www.thisislondon.c(...)pound-11m-mansion.do

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:29 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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^{Protest: squatters unfurl an anti-Gaddafi banner from the roof of the empty home owned by Saif Gaddafi in Hampstead Garden Suburb}

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:30 schreef Dekatria het volgende:

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Mhahaha wat een bazen

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:32 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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"One of the first things we did was put on Al-Jazeera on the huge flat screen television."

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:32 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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"One of the first things we did was put on Al-Jazeera on the huge flat screen television."

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:36 schreef Dekatria het volgende:

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Hahahaha

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:30 schreef Dekatria het volgende:

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Mhahaha wat een bazen

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http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)sistance-no-fly-zone
Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has warned that the imposition of a no-fly zone in Libyan airspace will be met with armed resistance and taken as proof that western powers are trying to steal his country's oil.

His defiant remarks came as pro-Gaddafi forces continued their assault on the city of Zawiyah and the country's rebel leadership pleaded for the international community to close down Libyan airspace.

Britain and the US have discussed the creation of an internationally backed no-fly zone as a contingency plan in case Gaddafi refuses to step down in response to the popular uprising that erupted last month.

In an interview broadcast on Wednesday by Turkey's state-run TRT news channel, Gaddafi said: "If they take such a decision it will be useful for Libya, because the Libyan people will see the truth, that what they want is to take control of Libya and to steal their oil.

"They want to take your petrol," he said. "This is what America, this is what the French, those colonialists, want." But he warned: "The Libyan people will take up arms against them."

Barack Obama and David Cameron have agreed "to press forward with planning, including at Nato, on the full spectrum of possible responses, including surveillance, humanitarian assistance, enforcement of the arms embargo, and a no-fly zone".

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, has made it clear that Washington believes any decision to impose a no-fly zone is a matter for the UN and should not be a US-led initiative.

Opponents of Gaddafi on the front line between the rebel-controlled east and the regime's forces in the west have become increasingly frustrated at the international community's failure to act. Rebels constantly fire machine guns into the air to try to fend off attacking warplanes.

"They had a no-fly zone in Iraq," a rebel volunteer, Naji Saleh, told Reuters near the oil town of Ras Lanuf. "Why is Gaddafi their darling and Saddam Hussein was not?".

The rebel leadership in the eastern city of Benghazi said their representatives were in touch with foreign capitals about the imposition of a no-fly zone.

"We are concentrating our diplomatic efforts and working hard. But as always, they [foreign powers] are reluctant. One day we think they will take action soon," said Iman Bugaigis, a spokesman for the rebel February 17 coalition.

An opposition group fighting Gaddafi's regime has called for a no-fly zone over Libya even without the UN's blessing, but has ruled out the presence of foreign troops on Libyan soil.

Speaking at the European parliament, an official with the umbrella group for eastern rebels said that if it came to a choice between preventing people being slaughtered or accepting political disagreement within the UN security council, the decision was easy.

Mahmoud Jebril said the only condition would be to enforce the zone from outside Libya.

EU parliament groups meeting in Strasbourg are preparing to call on member states to recognise Jebril's newly created interim governing council in Benghazi.

Gaddafi has also accused the UN security council of bypassing its own processes to act against Libya and repeated his claims that the revolt had been inspired by foreign al-Qaida militants who have freed prisoners and paid young men to fight for them.

He has accused western governments and media of falling for al-Qaida propaganda that blamed government forces for unleashing violence on the Libyan people.

In an interview with France's LCI television, Gaddafi said: "I'd have to be mad to shoot at peaceful demonstrators. I'd never have done that. I'd never have allowed anyone to be shot."

He also warned the international community that the collapse of Libya would bring an end to security in the region, telling TRT: "The world will change its attitude towards Libya because Libyan stability means the security of the Mediterranean sea.

"It will be a huge disaster if al-Qaida takes over Libya. Al-Qaida would flood Europe with immigrants. We are the ones who prevent al-Qaida from taking over control. They would drag the whole region into chaos … Al-Qaida would take over north Africa."

Meanwhile, Libyan forces loyal to Gaddafi have closed in on rebels in the western city of Zawiyah, surrounding them with tanks and snipers in the main square, according to a resident and a rebel fighter.

"We can see the tanks. The tanks are everywhere," Ibrahim told Reuters by phone from inside Zawiyah, the closest rebel city to the capital, Tripoli.

A resident added: "They have surrounded the square with snipers and tanks. The situation is not so good. It's very scary. There are a lot of snipers."

Ibrahim said forces loyal to Gaddafi were in control of the main road and the suburbs. Although rebel forces still controlled the square, pro-Gaddafi fighters were about 1,500 metres away.

Ibrahim said army snipers were on top of most of the buildings, shooting at anyone who dared to venture from their homes.

"There are many dead people and they can't even bury them," he said. "Zawiyah is deserted. There's nobody on the streets. No animals, not even birds in the sky."

A government spokesman said that while troops were mostly in control of Zawiyah, there was still a small pocket of 30-40 "desperate" resistance fighters.

Foreign reporters have been prevented from entering Zawiyah, 30 miles west of Tripoli, and other cities near the capital without an official escort.

Human rights activists estimate more than 1,000 people have been killed since the uprising began in mid-February.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:50 schreef Muridae het volgende:
Is dat niet gewoon inbraak?

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:50 schreef Muridae het volgende:
Is dat niet gewoon inbraak?

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:52 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Nee, het is een opstand. De revolutie breidt zich uit.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:57 schreef Maron het volgende:
Wie zal dit geweest zijn..?
"A man arrived in a black Porsche and had to be calmed down by police before driving away."

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:29 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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^{Protest: squatters unfurl an anti-Gaddafi banner from the roof of the empty home owned by Saif Gaddafi in Hampstead Garden Suburb}

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3.46pm: Libyan government emissaries have flown to Brussels to talk to European and NATO officials ahead of the organisations meetings on Thursday and Friday, the Italian foreign minister, Franco Frattini, said today. It seems that Gaddafi is on a diplomatic offensive but what his representatives are putting on the table, if anything, is unclear. From Reuters:

"Two aircraft of the Libyan regime appear to have left Libya for Brussels with the intention of enabling emissaries of Gaddafi to meet representatives taking part in the meetings of the EU and NATO tomorrow and the next day," Frattini said.

He noted that the visits to Cairo and Brussels suggested that the situation was very fluid and he cautioned against taking any action which might be premature. "I don't know what will be said in Cairo, I don't know who will meet whom in Brussels but these movements are a fact that we have to take account of," he said.

Earlier, a Maltese official said Libyan emissaries had arrived on the Mediterranean island on Wednesday for talks with Maltese officials, and then flown to Portugal. There was no immediate confirmation from Lisbon but a source in Brussels said the plane was carrying a moderate member of Gaddafi's government to meet Luis Amado, the Portuguese foreign minister.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:57 schreef Maron het volgende:
Wie zal dit geweest zijn..?
"A man arrived in a black Porsche and had to be calmed down by police before driving away."

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 17:38 schreef shomila het volgende:
NicRobertsonCNN Nic Robertson
#Libya warns oil companies if overseas workers don't return in 45 days, the oil companies will lose their concessions.
5 minutes ago

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 17:38 schreef shomila het volgende:


NicRobertsonCNN Nic Robertson
#Libya warns oil companies if overseas workers don't return in 45 days, the oil companies will lose their concessions.
5 minutes ago

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:10 schreef shomila het volgende:
ahmadshokr Ahmad Shokr
Regained internet access, back on twitter in Benghazi
3 minutes ago

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:11 schreef Pannenkoekenmix het volgende:

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Mooi!! Misschien komt Houda wel weer terug

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:12 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:

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Ben benieuwd hoe het met haar gaat.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:22 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
19:02 Channel 4s Jonathan Rugman tweets: Government press trip to Zawiya suddenly cancelled while vans were revving to go. State TV now shows pro-Gaddafi rally there. Official explanation for trip cancellation: oil minister giving press conference instead. Hotel full of angry hacks again.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:24 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
18:44 BBC A spokesman in Az-Zawiyah said that while Gaddafis forces were in the main square and they had retreated, they would claim back the city from Gaddafi and they would do so tonight.

18:40 BBC A doctor in Zawiya says at least 40 people have died in fighting on Wednesday, probably many more. Al Jazeera adds that several of Gaddafis soldiers have been killed, including a general and a colonel.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:31 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Confirmed: Talks between EU and Libyan diplomats in Brussels.

Bron: Catherine Ashdown through AJE.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:34 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:

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Er staat volgens mij nu wel wat te gebeuren.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:34 schreef shomila het volgende:
jackyaljaz Jacky Rowland
Brush with death 1km from Sidra oil port. Hid in hole as Gaddafi mortars landed around us and rebels fired rockets over our heads #libya
1 minute ago

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:38 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Niet meteen. De diplomaten zijn gestuurd om een no-fly zone tegen te houden en te dreigen. Ik denk niet dat er nu al onderhandelt word over Ghaddafi's aftreden.

Ik heb medelijden met die diplomaten nu.
Net zo veel als met legerofficieren die met een geweer in hun rug naar het front gestuurd worden.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:39 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
bencnn The anti-Qaddafi hold over Ras Lanouf looking tenuous. Saw large reinforcements heading to the front. #Libya
2 minutes ago via web

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5.21pm GMT: The Guardian's Esther Addley reports from the front lines of Hampstead in London, where the struggle against the Gaddafi regime takes on a very British form – squatting:

I'm just back from an occupation of Saif Gadaffi's house in Hampstead, which has been occupied by a group calling themselves Topple the Tyrants.

It's a redbrick house in a small close, rather disappointing for a tyrant dynasty but apparently it's worth �10m.

There aren't too many of the group, it's not clear exactly how many there are, and they've put up a few banners on the roof. We had a photographer there so there will be photos soon.

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ibyan4life RT @LibyaInMe: We're at 732 275 signatures..UN decision is tomorrow. LET'S SPREAD AND SIGN. 1 000 000 by TONIGHT http://bit.ly/igkiMX #libya #feb17

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:45 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Het front in London!

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This house is presumably the one where Saif Gaddafi spent so many days writing his London School of Economics PhD thesis.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:45 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Het front in London!

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This house is presumably the one where Saif Gaddafi spent so many days writing his London School of Economics PhD thesis.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:43 schreef ChristianLebaneseFront het volgende:

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Reinforcements? Rebellen of Gadaffi?

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:51 schreef shomila het volgende:

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Ik denk de rebellen.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 19:04 schreef Bartholomaeus het volgende:
http://nos.nl/tekst/22443(...)ten-naar-europa.html

Kadhafi zendt gezanten naar Europa
Update: woensdag 9 mrt 2011, 18:59

Een vliegtuig van de Libische leider Kadhafi is vertrokken naar Ca�ro. Er zou een gezant in zitten die een boodschap van Kadhafi moet overbrengen. Verder zijn er berichten dat er toestellen van Kadhafi met gezanten onderweg zijn naar Europese hoofdsteden, waaronder Brussel. Daar is vrijdag een EU-top over Libi�.

Kadafi heeft een beloning van bijna een half miljoen dollar gezet op het hoofd van oppositieleider Jalil, de leider van de Nationale Libische Raad.

Die raad stelde gisteren een ultimatum aan Kadhafi. Als hij binnen 72 uur vertrok zou hij niet strafrechtelijk worden vervolgd.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 18:31 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Confirmed: Talks between EU and Libyan diplomats in Brussels.

Bron: Catherine Ashton through AJE.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 19:18 schreef tass het volgende:
http://www.avaaz.org/nl/libya_no_fly_zone_1/?cl=979743425&v=8589
Allemaal tekenen please!
Geweldige organisatie die wereldwijd super bezig is!

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Robert Gates didn't mince his words though when he was talking about the no fly zone, he said Let's call a spade a spade. A no fly zone begins with a military intervention, a military bombardment meaning the aerial bombardment of Libya. So what does the no fly zone actually mean if we do get a UN Security Council resolution on this in the coming week?

David Lindorff: Well, whether it's UN or not it would be US forces and so a no fly zone would mean as Gates correctly said, an act of war because in order to enforce a no fly zone you first have to take out any possible anti-aircraft operations and the chance of planes flying up to engage your planes. So it means bombing the airfields; bombing every site where there is anti-aircraft guns or anti-missile emplacements - so that's a war.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 16:29 schreef MangoTree het volgende:

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 19:30 schreef truepositive het volgende:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/168859.html

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 19:35 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Superactie!

Zouden de Gaddafi's ook onroerend goed in Nederland hebben?

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 19:36 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Als je dan toch oorlog gaat voeren kan je ook alleen de vliegvelden onklaar maken. Ben je eerder klaar.

regel 14, geloof ik. The rules of disinformation.

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VictoriaSyn #Libya #Anonops http://www.unitedaviation.ly - owned by the Gaddafi family ...I don't like this website 34 minutes ago via web

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iglooo101 RT @BreakingNews #Egypt quietly aiding rebel forces seeking to oust #Libya #GADDAFI #UPI http://bit.ly/gGatXE #TRIPOLI #EGYPT #ALGERIA 2 minutes ago via web

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BEIRUT, Lebanon, March 9 (UPI) -- Egypt, still grappling with a revolution that toppled President Hosni Mubarak in February, is reported to be quietly aiding rebel forces seeking to oust Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi.

This is seen as part of a drive by the transitional regime in Cairo to restore Egypt's leadership of the Arab world.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_Ne(...)96518/#ixzz1G8IJrxAe

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 20:35 schreef t-8one het volgende:
Geweldige foto's: http://www.theatlantic.co(...)ing-conflict/100021/

Alleen deze gast
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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 20:44 schreef ChristianLebaneseFront het volgende:

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lol check em dan poseren. Je zou bijna denken dat ze echt onder invloed zijn

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 21:47 schreef Godshand het volgende:
Hoe zit het nu met de NL gevangen militairen?

Gaan we nog een commando aktie met commando's in burger opzetten, zodat ze weggehaald kunnen worden?

En anders stuur ff een oorlogsschip en dreig met het bombarderen van Tripoli.

Die noflyzone komt er toch wel..

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 21:47 schreef Godshand het volgende:
Hoe zit het nu met de NL gevangen militairen?

Gaan we nog een commando aktie met commando's in burger opzetten, zodat ze weggehaald kunnen worden?

En anders stuur ff een oorlogsschip en dreig met het bombarderen van Tripoli.

Die noflyzone komt er toch wel..

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 21:58 schreef Oidipous het volgende:
Ik vraag me wel af hoe hij gaat vluchten. In een Ka of in een Daffie?

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 21:58 schreef Oidipous het volgende:
Ik vraag me wel af hoe hij gaat vluchten. In een Ka of in een Daffie?

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9.46pm GMT: Two BBC journalists in Libya say they were tortured and subjected to a mock execution by members of Gaddafi's regime, it has been revealed.

The Guardian's Peter Beaumont reports from Tripoli:

The shocking account of their experiences, including being held in a cage in a militia barracks while others were tortured around them, was made available to media colleagues in Tripoli after the men had been released and left the country.

At one point during their captivity the men had shots fired past their heads as they were led into a barracks.

One of the men was attacked repeatedly with fists, boots, rifle butts, a stick and piece of pipe. He also described trying to help other victims of torture whom they saw, some of whom had had their ribs broken during beatings.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 22:53 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Nog bozere journo's

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Hele verhaal hier: http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)arrest-torture-libya

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 23:16 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
en zo vergaat het de bevolking dus ook of erger

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 23:24 schreef Pannenkoekenmix het volgende:
Bizar om te lezen dat dit dus word omschreven door sommige mensen als "hemels", in vergelijking tot Zawiya. Vraag me nog serieus af hoe het er nu aan toe gaat in Zawiya.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:02 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Ben Wedeman over de impact van een no-fly zone:
"Well it would probably prevent Libian airforce from flying over my head like they just did..."

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:05 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
Mooi verslag van die miep van aljazeera inder bullit proof jasje en helm

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:08 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Eigenlijk weten we gewoon niet hoe het ervoor staat.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 23:34 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Egypt 'aids Libyan rebels against Gadhafi'

BEIRUT, Lebanon, March 9 (UPI) -- Egypt, still grappling with a revolution that toppled President Hosni Mubarak in February, is reported to be quietly aiding rebel forces seeking to oust Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi.

This is seen as part of a drive by the transitional regime in Cairo to restore Egypt's leadership of the Arab world.

Arab sources say that the Egyptian commandoes are most likely from Unit 777 of the Egyptian army's Special Operations Command set up in the late 1970s. Unit 777's 250-300 personnel trains with Germany's elite GSG-9 counter-terrorism force, the U.S. Army's Delta Force and France's GIGN, special operations arm of the National Gendarmerie.

Artikel UPI

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 23:58 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Goed videoverslag van Ben Wedeman op CNN

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:14 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Doet ut niet bij mij.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:12 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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jewel maar echt positief is het niet , oostelijk komt men niet vooruit en westelijk is men aan het verliezen.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:12 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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jewel maar echt positief is het niet , oostelijk komt men niet vooruit en westelijk is men aan het verliezen.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:15 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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windows 98?

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:16 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Ghaddadi is ook niet aan het winnen. Gerommel in Tripoli, hij wilde pers� vandaag Zawya hebben, maar dat is niet gelukt, hij stuurt hoge officieren het centrum in en die worden afgeknald. Wanhoop, gekte...

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:17 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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XP

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:16 schreef Ulpianus het volgende:

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Och, als je Ras Lanuf hebt is het misschien handiger om te beseffen dat je misschien een lijn kan trekken.
Je hebt immers alle oliepijpen.
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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:18 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:19 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Wat?

Niks mis met XP

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:19 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Wat?

Niks mis met XP

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:19 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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En daarom is Zawiya ook zo belangrijk.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:20 schreef deleriouz het volgende:

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Pre-9/11 OS

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:21 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Tsss

NOS
CNN

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:23 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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is het zo erg?

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:34 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:35 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Op de website van de NOS, niet eens in een journaal.

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 13:03 schreef shomila het volgende:
RawyaRageh Rawya Rageh
#BREAKING One of the three #Gaddafi family jets that took off from Tripoli landed in Cairo with Libyan official onboard #Egypt #Feb17
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Ze hebben hun bestemming veranderd en gaan alle 3 naar Cairo.

RawyaRageh Rawya Rageh
The #Gaddafi family jet that landed in #Egypt had a military official on board who'll be meeting with Egypt's military rulers #Libya #Feb17
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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:41 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Dus vandaar.

ik ga slapen

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Op woensdag 9 maart 2011 19:32 schreef truepositive het volgende:

Propaganda sways US opinion of Libya

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Death toll in Libyan popular uprising at 10,000
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The informed sources of the International Criminal Court, on Wednesday night, reported on the continuation of massacre of Libyan people by Muammar Gaddafi's military forces, putting the death toll in recent days at 10,000 people.



According to Al-Alam Network website, citing a member of the International Criminal Court, only in the city of Benghazi at least 2,000 people have been martyred.

Gaddafi said on Tuesday night that in case of continuation of protests, his regime will intensely suppress the Libyan people.

A political activist in Libya, Hassan Abul-Qasem, in an interview with Al-Alam Network, referred to Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi's televised speech, in which the Libyan dictator threatened the demonstrators, and warned against the possibility of the horrific massacre of people by the Libyan repressive regime.

He called on Libyan armed forces to join people and to use their weapons for defending people against the Libyan regime's mercenaries.

The main city of Benghazi and several other Libyan cities have been conquered by the revolutionary forces, and based on reports; Gaddafi only dominates a small district of Tripoli, which is highly guarded by the military forces.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 00:42 schreef svann het volgende:
De Volkskrant meldde dat om 16.00 uur met als bron het ANP.

Niet eens op het journaal geweest dus?

 

De Libya: No-Fly Zone teller staat op 776.715 en tikt gestadig door.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk(...)prising-intervention
The front page of the New York Times website demonstrated at one point yesterday the irony of deploying the most mobile and powerful army in the world. And it has nothing to do with theories about the utility of force. In one report, US troops are struggling to persuade Afghan troops and police to fight the Taliban in Ghazni province in Afghanistan. Next to it is a report from Benghazi, Libya, where the local determination to fight Gaddafi is etched in deep lines on every face, but where the means to do so are wholly absent. In the former, US officers talk sceptically about the strategy. They call it the deep disconnect between the tactical (and possibly temporary) victories of US units against the Taliban, and the strategic aim of leaving a functioning Afghan state in place when they leave. In Libya, the only disconnect is between the will to fight and the means to do so effectively. The opposition is overwhelmed by the logistical problems of resupplying the front, maintaining political unity and simply answering the phone. Is this an argument for US soldiers doing in Libya what they are failing to do in Afghanistan?

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 01:45 schreef tass het volgende:

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En ik heb net als Papier, hetzelfde probleem.
Ik vind Ben een geweldige journalist maar CNN wil dus bepalen welke OS ik hier in Nijmegen op mijn pc zet zodat ik Ben kan zien!
Nou jammer dan, dan kijk ik wel niet naar Ben

Ben Wedeman's report from Ras Lanuf (3.9.11)

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 07:28 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
Goeiemorgen. Heftige foto.

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Ben Wedeman's report from Ras Lanuf (3.9.11)

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Hoard of Cash Lets Qaddafi Extend Fight Against Rebels

WASHINGTON The Libyan leader Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi has tens of billions in cash secretly hidden away in Tripoli, allowing him to prolong his fight against rebel forces despite an international freeze on many of the Libyan governments assets, according to American and other intelligence officials.

Colonel Qaddafi has control over the huge cash deposits, which have been stored at the Libyan Central Bank and other banks around the Libyan capital in recent years, the officials said.

Since the protests and fighting erupted, some of the money may have been moved into Colonel Qaddafis Tripoli compound, Bab Al Azizia, according to one person with ties to the Libyan government. While United States intelligence officials said they could not confirm such a move, one official said that Colonel Qaddafi likely has tens of billions in cash that he can access inside Libya.

The money in Libyan dinars, United States dollars and possibly other foreign currencies allows Colonel Qaddafi to pay his troops, African mercenaries and political supporters in the face of a determined uprising, said the intelligence officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The huge cash reserves have, at least temporarily, diminished the impact of economic sanctions on Colonel Qaddafi and his government. The possibility that he could resist the rebellion in his country for a sustained period could place greater pressure for action on the Obama administration and European leaders, who had hoped that the Libyan leader would be forced from power quickly.

President Obamas national security team met at the White House on Wednesday to discuss how to oust the Libyan leader, including the possible imposition of a no-flight zone, but made no decisions, according to the White House press secretary, Jay Carney.

The United States has relied so far on imposing financial pain on the Qaddafi government, freezing nearly $32 billion of Libyas assets, according to Treasury Department officials. The United Nations and the European Union have imposed separate sanctions and have frozen assets as well.

But those actions have been limited to funds in the international banking system and to business investments outside of Libya. Inside the country, the intelligence officials said, Colonel Qaddafi has amassed a huge rainy day fund of cash.

Kenneth Barden, a lawyer who specializes in Middle East financing and advises financial institutions on ways to guard against money laundering, said there were indications that Colonel Qaddafi had moved billions of dollars in assets just days or weeks before the outbreak of violence in Tripoli, apparently to protect his family wealth from global sanctions.

The money that is kept in Qaddafis name is probably small, Mr. Barden said, but hes got a lot in the names of family members and close associates.

But Colonel Qaddafi probably began hoarding liquid assets far earlier, officials said. He has built up Libyas cash reserves in the years since the West began lifting economic sanctions on his government in 2004, following his decision to renounce unconventional weapons and cooperate with the United States in the fight against Al Qaeda. That led to a flood of Western investment in the Libyan oil and natural gas industries, and access to international oil and financial markets.

Colonel Qaddafi, however, apparently feared that sanctions would someday be reimposed and secretly began setting aside cash in Tripoli that could not be seized by Western banks, according to the officials. He used the Libyan Central Bank, which he controls, and private banks in the city. He also directed that many government transactions, including some sales on the international oil spot market, be conducted in cash. He learned to keep cash around, said the person with ties to Libyan government officials, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of putting them in jeopardy.

The reserves are likely to prove even more critical to Colonel Qaddafi as the governments revenues dwindle from oil production.

With the unrest, Libya is pumping just 300,000 to 400,000 barrels of oil a day, down sharply from its typical production of 1.8 million barrels a day, according to Holly Pattenden, head of oil and gas analysis at the Business Monitor International in London.

The current levels would be worth about $30 million to $40 million a day, but export markets are now virtually closed to the country, as international banks refuse to provide letters of credit for oil company shipments, according to Greg Priddy, a global oil analyst with the Eurasia Group in Washington.

I dont think they are deriving a lot of income from the export market right now, Mr. Priddy said. The international banks dont want to touch it. Still, several small Libyan refineries remain open, and Mr. Priddy said they were probably refining oil for the domestic market and fuel for Colonel Qaddafis military operations.

With other sources of income drying up, the Libyan leader is heavily dependent on his pile of cash, and apparently spending it to stay in power. He is making cash payments to political supporters in Tripoli to retain their loyalty, while also buying the services of African mercenaries.

The person close to the government estimated that 3,000 to 4,000 mercenaries from Mali, Niger and a rebel group operating in Darfur, Sudan, the Justice and Equality Movement, have been hired by the Libyan government for at least $1,000 a day apiece. United States intelligence officials said they could not confirm those numbers or amount of payments.

Intelligence officials and other experts credit Colonel Qaddafi with becoming very adept at hiding his money, and said it had often been difficult to distinguish between the assets of the Libyan government, including its $70 billion sovereign wealth fund, and the Qaddafi familys assets.

Mr. Qaddafis history of financial dealings indicate that he has surreptitious accounts and unaccounted sums that are significant enough to give him security even if the world caves in on him, said David Aufhauser, a top Treasury Department official in President George W. Bushs administration.

Justice Department documents show that Libya had worked with Swiss banks to launder international banking transactions for years, with hundreds of senior Libyan officials allowed to surreptitiously move money.

Tim Niblock, an expert on Libya and professor at the University of Exeter in Britain, said he believed that Colonel Qaddafi had hidden cash as far back as the 1990s. He said that it was part of a larger effort by the Libyan leader to protect his money from both the international community and his domestic foes.

Hes always aware that he faces problems from outside and within, Professor Niblock said. It would be quite foolish for him to not amass money for an eventuality like this.

Helene Cooper contributed reporting from Washington, and David Rohde from New York. Barclay Walsh contributed research from Washington.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 07:16 schreef yavanna het volgende:
G'morning.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 07:45 schreef yavanna het volgende:

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 09:05 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
Als de cashflow opdroogt (wat dreigt te gebeuren op den duur omdat er bijna geen olie-inkomsten meer zijn, en de rest van de wereld al heel veel geld bevroren heeft van hem) dan droogt ook de steun op voor hem. De vraag is voor hoeveel hij nog aan reserves heeft liggen. Echt de meeste lui die voor hem vechten zijn alleen maar royaal aan zijn bankrekening.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 07:54 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Video interview met Goktay Koraltan en Feras Kilani, de gemartelde BBC journo's

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It might be easier to generate an international response if Gadhafi were slaughtering huge numbers of people. Massive ethnic cleansing by Serbian leaders impelled the United Nations to declare a no-fly zone over Bosnia in 1993 and for NATO to impose one over Kosovo in 1999. The United States, France, and Britain imposed no-fly zones over northern and southern Iraq in the early 1990s after Saddam Hussein slaughtered thousands of Shiites.

But the situation in Libya is not (yet) that horrific; rather than wide-scale slaughter of unarmed protesters, it has morphed into a struggle between tribal groups that support and oppose Gadhafi. "A no-fly zone . . . might make us feel good," says Micah Zenko, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, "but it isn't relevant to the fight that is going on now [which is] a civil war."

As Zenko points out, in such a conflict, a no-fly zone might not even achieve much. Many of the bombing runs by Gadhafi's aging MiG fighters appear ineffective, and many appear aimed at ammunition dumps, not civilians. Most of the killing appears to be carried out by artillery, mortars, and machine guns targeting ill-organized and often leaderless rebel forces.

I can't help recalling, with a shudder, that some of the worst massacres that the Serbs committed in Bosnia took place while a U.N. no-fly zone was in operation. And in Iraq, the no-fly zones continued for more than a decade, but Hussein was toppled only by the 2003 invasion.

What would happen if the United States established a no-fly zone and Gadhafi continued to fight - or reestablished control? Would we send in ground forces?

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 09:05 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
Als de cashflow opdroogt (wat dreigt te gebeuren op den duur omdat er bijna geen olie-inkomsten meer zijn, en de rest van de wereld al heel veel geld bevroren heeft van hem) dan droogt ook de steun op voor hem. De vraag is voor hoeveel hij nog aan reserves heeft liggen. Echt de meeste lui die voor hem vechten zijn alleen maar royaal aan zijn bankrekening.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 07:45 schreef yavanna het volgende:

The Libyan leader Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi has tens of billions in cash secretly hidden away in Tripoli, allowing him to prolong his fight against rebel forces despite an international freeze on many of the Libyan governments assets[/b], according to American and other intelligence officials.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 09:35 schreef shomila het volgende:

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Wat een angst moet je dan hebben he, denken dat ze je dood gaan schieten pffff.

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'Kaddafi overweegt ballingschap'
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AMSTERDAM - De Libische leider Muammar Kaddafi overweegt een ballingschap te aanvaarden.
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Dat schrijft het Duitse persbureau DPA donderdag op basis van een Arabische krant.

Volgens een vertrouweling van de omstreden kolonel denk Kaddafi na over een leven in ballingschap in Niger of Tsjaad.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 10:02 schreef Citizen.Erased het volgende:

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 09:22 schreef Dekatria het volgende:

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Je bedoelt loyaal

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 08:34 schreef Pannenkoekenmix het volgende:

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De jongen achter de groene vlag ziet er uit alsof hij ook geschoten word als hij niet meewerkt

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 10:49 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:

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Lol ja, beetje domme typfout

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 10:55 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Goeiensmorrigens

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 10:54 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
http://english.aljazeera.(...)131041228856242.html

Bizar surrealistisch filmpje, zeker op het eind met die gigantsiche kolommen van rook en de raketten die overvliegen. Er staat sowieso een oliedepot goed in de fik.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 11:38 schreef Dance99Vv het volgende:
aanval op Ras Lanuf, vannuit 3 kanten,waaronder vanaf zee. havy fighting reported

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 11:40 schreef De_Hertog het volgende:
Frankrijk vindt duidelijk dat ze wat goed te maken hebben in hun relatie met de Arabische wereld.. Op zich goed nieuws, maar wel vreemd dat ze niet even dat EU overleg afwachten..

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:05 schreef MangoTree het volgende:
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^{Bangladeshi refugees fleeing Libya wait to be registered in a refugee camp at the Tunisia-Libyan border, in Ras Ajdir, Tunisia, Tuesday March 8, 2011. The 20,000-capacity transit camp for thousands of migrant workers who have fled the fighting in Libya in the past two weeks is about seven kilometers (four miles) from the Libyan border and is expanding with each day of crisis in Libya. (AP Photo/Lefteris Pitarakis)}
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10.59am: Opposition forces on the main front line between the Mediterranean oil port of Ras Lanouf and the city of Bin Jawwad, appear to have established better supply lines, bringing heavy weapons like multiple-rocket launcher trucks and small tanks to the battle, Reuters reports.

Youssef Fittori, a major in the opposition force, said a mix of defectors from Gadhafi's special forces and civilain rebels were fighting government forces about 12 miles west of Ras Lanouf on the main coastal road to Bin Jawwad.
"Today, God willing, we will take Bin Jawwad. We are moving forward," he said.

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:09 schreef Eyjafjallajoekull het volgende:
Alterntives? Zoals een EMP

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Op donderdag 10 maart 2011 12:24 schreef yavanna het volgende:
AJELive AJELive
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.