9/11 #64: Met extra droge sprinklers!

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 20:32 schreef Blue_Panther_Ninja het volgende:

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Er waren wel vliegtuigen,maar niet commerciële

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 21:03 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
van die 3000 doden, hoeveel waren er echt en hoeveel vicsims?

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 21:45 schreef Gray het volgende:
Hoe in de loop van 7/8 jaar na dato de 45(!) 'amateurbeelden' zijn opgedoken:
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Betrouwbaarheid van de 'amateurbeelden'?
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Amateurs?

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I didn't even know this guy Richard Drew was also called in for the assassination of Robert Kennedy like the OP posted about him. A professional photographer being at a major "untimed" event right before it happened one time in his life would be hitting lotto but this guy ends up at 2? Dont know any info on him but that's probably a minimum of 2 if you looked at his resume. That's the opposite of a coincidence. That's an assignment or job.

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Allow me to play devil's advocate don't you think that most photographers (especially with nothing to do) in the world are centered in NYC? It "could" have been fate for some of the photogs to be in the area. NYC is the home of B&H Photo, the world's photography mega store, hell, if I worked there I would steal the best camera I could get my hands on and run down there and worry about the consequences later... but im crazy...

But yea, I agree, too many of these guys and gals have past connections to events where they were in the right place at the right time, and again on 9/11? And the angles, the elaborate stories...

But honestly I don't believe the coincidences... I have pictures from that day too but being someone on "the outside" of the plot, I sure as shit was not in the right place at the right time to get these types of photos, only getting pictures of the aftermath... like... it was over very quickly when thinking about it in retrospect... how did these people with such good equipment be there within minutes, literally?

Very good post and research.

Thank you.

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Sean Adair has been shooting film and video for over 15 years, and still photography for over 25 years. Born in NYC, educated in New Zealand, and with travel to over 40 countries under his belt, he brings a wealth of experience to every shoot. Producing educational material, documentary, and art films, he is also a hands on director, editor and cinematographer.

His camerawork can be seen in the "Beef" video series, 16mm feature release documentary “Rhyme and Reason”, NBC’s Emmy award winning special “Mystery of the Sphinx”, and hundreds of commercials, documentaries and corporate videos.

Sean's art and journalistic photography have been published internationally, and he also serves as a consultant for many firms in the arcane arts of developing interactive digital media and visual effects.

Source: http://www.adairproductions.com/bio.html

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Larger than life

The path that eventually led Bill to the World Trade Center the morning of 9/11 took him through Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Berlin, and deep into the heart of racism in his own country. He never stopped moving until the end.

As a spot news photographer, Bill chose to cover stories that most interested him, not the ones an editor selected. He focused on presenting the minority side – the Palestinians in the Middle East, the Catholic/IRA “troubles” in Ireland, and the issues of natives, blacks and gays in America.

Bill was born in Berlin in 1947, the pacifist son of a conservative Army officer. Raised in a rambunctious family of 12 children, Bill grew up learning to express his opinion - loudly and demonstrably if needed. Politics was often a heated topic of conversation and it affected his life at an early age. His family was forced to leave Berlin on one of the last trains before the Berlin Wall was erected.

In New York, Bill worked as a commercial photographer, while also pursuing his passion for photojournalism. In 1973, he went to Wounded Knee to cover the American Indian protest movement. He somehow got past the FBI perimeter and was captured by the besieged protestors who assumed he was a federal agent. His gift for gab got him released, but some of his film was confiscated.

In 1985, Bill received his first press card and immediately closed his studio. He left commercial photography behind and entered the world of black and white photojournalism. He hated color and only came back to it when he grudgingly accepted digital photography methods.

Over the years following, Bill photographed racism in New York, the KKK in the South, the Palestinian uprising and refugee camps in Israel, the life of people in Northern Ireland, and the fall of the Berlin Wall. He was one of the first members of a cooperative photo agency, Impact Visuals, which was devoted to issues of social change and alternative news.

Aside from photography, Bill loved gardening, planting street trees in New York, sailing his boat, listening to Yankee games with his sons, and living in the center of what he considered the greatest city on earth. He died there at the age of 54. A life fully, fiercely and passionately lived.

Bill is survived by his wife, Wendy Doremus, and three children – Bill Jr., Kate and Peter

Source: http://www.billbiggart.com/about.html

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Moshe Bursuker received his BFA degree in sculpture and photography from the Hartford Art School at the University of Hartford. It was there when he first began working with glass. After leaving Hartford, Moshe continued to pursue his artistic endeavors as a glass artist. He attended Urban Glass, Pilchuck Glass School and the Studio at the Corning Museum of Glass, where he has worked with world's renowned glass artists.

Source: http://www.moshebursuker.com/bio.php

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Kathy Cacicedo has worked for non profits to Fortune 500 companies for the past 15 years. She has been lucky enough to be able to combine her talents in graphic design and photography on many "soup to nuts" projects... developing a company identity, designing all printed and online materials, incorporating her photography into the entire package and most recently being able to provide film and video to accompany the entire package should the client desire.

As a photographer Kathy Cacicedo gained international attention and the 2002 NY Art Directors Club Merit Award for her historic photo of Flight 175 seconds before it's impact on the World Trade Center, as well as Best Feature Photo from the Syracuse Press Club for her photo of "The morning After" - September 12

As a designer she won the 2002 Bronze Award for Website Design from the Art Directors Club of New Jersey for the website of latin music group CTO..

Finally making the jump to film and video, in 2002 she formed her own production company -BuenaOnda Pictures. One of BuenaOnda's first projects - a music video for latin group CTO "Prendele la Mecha" won the BEST MUSIC VIDEO award at the Garden State Film Festival and the NY International Film Festival.

In 2006 she was honored with the first annual "Shooting Star" award from the Garden State Film Festival where VAN VORST PARK starring Frank Vincent (Sopranos), directed by Cacicedo won the BEST HOMEGROWN SHORT.

Kathy wears "alot of hats"...including being manager of latin music sensation Los Mamboteros. You never know where she will be ...shooting photos- designing SOMETHING or out there working on her next film project - a documentary on Harvey Averne - winner of the first grammy for latin music....when she needs a break you will find her dropping in on an Australian in Puerto Rico at Domes on her flourescent green boogie board.

She lives happily behind the statue - with Hollywood Riley.

Source: http://www.kcphotographer.com/pagemainabout.html

9/11 Second Impact (Flight 175) Devin Clark

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Be it comics, film, illustration or animation Devin Clark has a passion for telling stories, and the stranger the better. Devin has been involved with a broad range of projects including work for HBO, MTV, Comedy Central, TCM, and The Cartoon Network applying his design and narrative skills to everything from network graphics to traditional cartoons. His films and animation have been featured in Stash Magazine, Animation Block Party, Rooftop Films, Ottawa Film Festival, Platform, and BDA. He is presently acting as producer/director on his original animated TV series, Ugly Americans, for Comedy Central.

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Based in New York City, Robert Clark is a freelance photographer known for his innovation. He works with some of the world's leading magazines and publishing houses and on cutting-edge advertising campaigns.

Early in his career, Clark left the comfort and familiarity of newspapers to join H. G. "Buzz" Bissenger, author of Friday Night Lights, in documenting the lives of high-school football players and devotion to the game in Odessa, Texas. Bissenger's best-selling book was later made into a major motion picture as well as an NBC television series.

In 2003, an assignment with the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, took Clark back to Texas to capture the first year of a new NFL team, the Houston Texans. The documentary and portraiture project resulted in one of the museum's most popular exhibits and the publication of a collectable, black-and-white photo book, First Down Houston: Birth of an NFL Franchise.

Clark was commissioned by Sony Ericsson to travel the United States for 50 days to document the beauty and diversity of America with only a cell-phone camera. This unique ad campaign, which was Clark's brainchild, generated a tremendous amount of coverage in major newspapers and on TV news programs. American Photo also featured each leg of his trip on the Web. His book about the assignment, Image America, developed into a gallery exhibit in New York City and became the first ever published photography book using cell-phone camera images.

Clark's work has won numerous awards. His coverage of the attack on the World Trade Center, witnessed from his rooftop in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, was recognized at the World Press Photo awards in Amsterdam. He also received a National Magazine Award for "Best Essay" for his National Geographic cover article, "Was Darwin Wrong?"

His photographs have graced some 40 book covers and more than a dozen National Geographic covers. His work has appeared in numerous publications, including Time, Sports Illustrated, GEO, Vanity Fair, Stern, and Der Spiegel.

Currently involved in a variety of projects, Clark continues his association with National Geographic and is working on a book documenting the birth of the science of evolution. He lives in Brooklyn, New York, with his wife, Lai Ling.

Source: www.robertclarkphoto.com

NIST FOIA: Clifton Cloud Clips 1-3 (WTC2 Plane Impact, 9:03am)

Luc Courchesne - WTC - Missile & Plane - Are they all fake? or is one of them real?

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Luc Courchesne took part in the emergence of media arts thirty years ago when, as a video artist inspired by a generation of experimental filmmakers such as Michael Snow and Hollis Frampton, he adopted computer technologies. First delving into interactive portraiture, a great artistic tradition re-articulated in a new mould, his work has recently turned to another important genre, that of landscape. With his installations, "panoscopic" images, and a device of his own making used to create a sense of visual immersion, he transforms spectators into a visitors, actors and inhabitants of his experiential crafts.

Born 1952 in Québec, Courchesne received a Bachelor's degree from the Nova Scotia College of Art and Design, Halifax (1974), and a Master of Science in Visual Studies from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge (1984). He began his explorations in interactive video in 1984 when he co-authored Elastic Movies, one of the earliest experiments in the field, and since produced about 30 installation works and image series including Encyclopedia Chiaroscuro (1987), Portrait One (1990), Family Portrait (1993), Hall of Shadows (1996), Landscape One (1997), Passages (1998.), Rendez-vous... (1999), Panoscopic Journal (1999), Panoscope 360° (2000), The Visitor: Living by Numbers (2001), Untitled (2004), Where are you? (2005), Horizons (2007), the Shores Series (2008.) and Icons (2009) in a co-creation with artist and choreographer Marie Chouinard.

His work is part of major collections in North America, Europe and Asia and has been shown extensively in galleries and museums worldwide including: Sydney's Art Gallery of New South Wales, New York's Museum of Modern Art, Tokyo's InterCommunication Center (ICC), Paris' La Villette, Karlsruhe's ZKM/Medienmuseum, Montreal?s Musée d'art contemporain, the National Gallery of Canada, Barcelona?s Fundacion La Caixa and Beijing?s National Art Museum of China.

Based in Montreal, Luc Courchesne is professor of design at Université de Montréal, founding member of the Society for Art and Technology [SAT], board member of the Conseil des arts et des lettres du Québec and member of the Royal Canadian Academy of Arts. He is represented by the galery Pierre-François Ouellette art contemporain in Montreal and by the Bryce Wolkowitz Gallery in New York.

Source: http://courchel.net/

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Luke Cremin — amateur photographer

"This image just prior to the plane impact with the South tower still, a year later, puts a shiver down my spine. Image taken from Atlantic Basin due South of the site of the WTC."

Contributor's location on 9/11: Brooklyn, New York
Cite as: Luke Cremin, Image #1200, The September 11 Digital Archive, 10 September 2002, http://911digitalarchive.org/images/details/1200

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Richard Drew is an Associated Press photo-journalist, perhaps most notable for his photo The Falling Man which depicts a man falling from the World Trade Center towers following the September 11, 2001 attacks. A British documentary "The Falling Man" about the photo premiered on the Discovery Times channel on September 10, 2007.

Drew was one of four press photographers present at the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.[1] Drew has been an Associated Press photographer for 40 years, and lives with his wife and two daughters in New York City.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard...hotographer%29

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Photojournalist Chip East has been focusing on news, features and documentary projects for 20 years. He has taken pictures across the United States and throughout the Middle East, Europe and Latin America for an array of clients. Based in New York for more than a decade, he currently works largely for the international news agency Reuters, concentrating on breaking news.
Source: http://www.chipeast.com/

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My name is Robert. I was having breakfast at
Joe Junior's in the West Village when a crowd starting to form outside. In
short order, we learned the World Trade had suffered some catastrophe.

After taking a look at the black gash in the facade of the building, I
abandoned breakfast and ran to my apartment across the street and grabbed my
camera. It was loaded and ready (I'd just gotton back from Florida
several days before).

I snapped a few pictures and saw the second plane in my viewfinder. I
snapped it instinctively. I had no idea it was going to hit the south tower.

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My camera was trained on the towers when the second plane
came into view. The picture I took of the airplane should be in the repository.

As viewed from the north, the plane appeared to vanish. When the building
erupted in flame, I still had this "disconnect" in my mind and at first
refused to believe the plane I'd just seen hit the building. After a few
seconds when the sound wave reached us, it was fairly clear that was what
happened.

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After my first shot of the fireball, I was frozen like I was in a trance.
Everything seemed to be happening in slow motion.

When the sound wave reached us (it sounded just like in the movies,
only not so loud---then again, I was probably 2 miles away)....it
brought me back to reality and I snapped this picture.

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I was in Flushing, Queens, taking photographs at polling places for the primary election that day. When I was paged I drove behind a caravan of at least 10 emergency vehicles to the vicinity of the World Trade Center, where the police indicated that I should park a couple of blocks away. I did, on Church Street.

I walked to the corner of Vesey and Church Streets and photographed some of the wounded.

Across the street, police and emergency workers were evacuating a building. The towers were burning, the smoke billowing. Suddenly, I heard a loud noise and thought another plane was going to hit the towers. I looked up, trying to photograph the building, and realized it was imploding.

People were running and screaming, and when I saw emergency personnel also running I ran with them. I heard a loud rumbling and followed a man who rolled under a Police Department truck.

All of a sudden, we were engulfed by a tidal wave of black dust and chunks of rocklike particles. I held onto the arm of a man under there with me, not realizing he was a police officer. I opened my eyes but couldn’t see anything. Everything was completely black. My eyes were burning. I couldn’t breathe, and I wondered for a second if this was what death was like.

The officer asked if I was O.K. I said yes. We heard glass breaking nearby and heard someone yelling “hello.” He was calling us to come into the Stage Door Deli maybe 10 feet away from where we were. The officer, Dan Mullin, grabbed my hand and pulled me in there. Inside were some firefighters completely covered in white ash, an elderly man with an accent and a cap and a man in a business suit, who stumbled in with a younger woman. They were O.K. A young woman was very frightened and near tears. One woman, an emergency worker, was just standing, stunned. Some of the firefighters passed out water, and it was first a man, then a woman calling for Pete, the owner.

But there was no one who worked in the store, only us, helping ourselves to his water and napkins to wipe ourselves off, spitting water on the floor. We used the phone, too, taking turns.

I saw firefighters walking through the ash and dust that clouded the air and then saw some police officers with shotguns. As the cloud slowly cleared we could see one tower standing. A chilling sight. A bit later we heard the rumbling again. And then it began to get dark outside again.

We all ran to the back of the deli and down some steps into the basement, where we waited.

When smoke started coming up from the basement, we decided to leave. One of the emergency personnel gave us wet rags to breathe through.

Just south of City Hall everything was covered with ash. Black smoke was billowing behind a church, and it looked as if only emergency personnel and journalists were there. The sun was shining through the dust over the Brooklyn Bridge, which carried an exodus of people across it toward the sunshine. Some looked back; others were crying, and others were stunned.

I saw two fashionable women, wearing matching blue towels draped over their heads, walking their matching dogs over the bridge.

Today we are publishing a handful of personal accounts by journalists who covered the Sept. 11 attacks for The Times. This one was originally published Sunday, Sept. 16, 2001.

Source: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...age-door-deli/

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Kelly is a Pulitzer Prize winning photojournalist who now runs a successful wedding/events studio in NYC. We capture the true spirit of the wedding day. http://www.nycweddingphotographer.com

Source: http://twitter.com/#!/guentherphoto

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"New York Daily News staff photographer David Handschuh was photographing the World Trade Centers while they were under attack. He was badly injured from falling debris. Fortunately, he survived, with some of his pictures being published in the Daily News. In this interview by Susan Markisz and Dirck Halstead, David gives a vivid account of his experience."
Source: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue01..._handschuh.htm

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While studying comparative literature and philosophy at the University of Toronto,
Rob purchased his first camera in a pawnshop and started photographing fashion models.
Within a year, he had moved to Sydney to develop his career under the hot Australian sun.

A move to Paris followed where Rob received a prestigious commission to photograph
the royal family of Morocco. That experience broadened his focus to include portraiture
and travel photography. Shortly thereafter, he was assigned to go to Tibet, Borneo and
northern India where he met and photographed the Dalai Lama over a three-week period.

Rob then relocated to New York City where magazine and advertising assignments
quickly followed.

Rob is recognized for his heroic portraits, energetic lifestyle shots and epic travel
adventures. His work has been honored by American Photography and Communication
Arts. He is also on the masthead of Condé Nast Traveler.

Rob lives between New York City and the Catskills with his wife, Lisa.
Source: http://www.robhowardphoto.com/gallery/delaware-county

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Whether he is photographing the war in Afghanistan, chronicling the ravages of pollution in China or delighting in the Olympics in Sydney, Nagano or Beijing, Chang W. Lee takes lyrical and poetic pictures. He believes that everyone has a story to tell and that every story, no matter how painful, contains beauty.

"Someone shares his story with me," Mr. Lee said, "then it becomes my story. Then it becomes your story. Then it is history."

Starting as an intern at The New York Times in 1994, he has developed a unique photographic style that combines an impeccable sense of light with complicated composition and surprising juxtapositions.

Mr. Lee was a member of the teams that won the Pulitzer Prizes for photography in 2002: one for Breaking News Photography for coverage of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the other for Feature Photography for documenting the pain and perseverance of people enduring protracted conflict in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Mr. Lee was also among the New York Times journalists who won the 2008 Grantham Prize for "Choking on Growth," a series that examined the effects of industrialization on the Chinese environment. In addition, he has won numerous awards in prestigious photographic competitions such as Pictures of the Year (POYI), the Best of Photojournalism (BOPJ) and the New York Press Photographers (NYPPA) annual contest.

Born in Pusan, Korea, in 1968, Mr. Lee came to the United States in 1986 and graduated from New York University's Tisch School of the Arts with a Bachelor of Fine Arts in 1993.

He is married to the graphic designer, Seolbin Park, with whom he has a son, Gio.

Source: http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/ref...lee/index.html

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There are many unreal moments. At 9:50 am I stand in disbelief as the south tower collapses in front of my lens. It sounds like a jet taking off. I move slowly away towards the street when a huge grey cloud filled with debris slams into me and I almost fall. Watching it through my camera, I steal four frames, that I see later are a gray cloud with parts of a police car, a man running in front of it, and a blue police barricade. And then just nothing but suffocating blackness, muffled screams, moans, an "Oh my God", and my quiet terror.

I felt like I was being buried alive. I couldn't breath or see. I think, ahhh shit, this is it. But it isn't. I reach out and find a corner of marble of a wall in front of me and pull myself around it. I pull my shirt over my mouth and keep my eyes closed. I start talking, saying my name and that I'm a photographer over and over to keep the fear back. I ask if anyone is near me. Then arms and a voice find me and we talk quickly. I ask him who he is, what does he do, anything. I will always remember his voice, but I can't remember his name. That bothers me. There is no sense of time in this place, we hear a shout "Over here...a door." We struggle to find it in the blackness, and then there is a yellow light.

I see a ghostly face, a man wearing a Yarmulke, he pulls us into a computer shop. A woman screams her partner is still out there. The man has locked the door and I yell at him to open it. No one should be out there. There is no anwser outside, and I start taking pictures again.

Source: http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0110/voices06.htm

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Karim Raoul was born in 1978 and grew up in Nyack, New York. The son of a documentary filmmaker, he spent much of his childhood traveling throughout the world discovering new people and cultures. These experiences had a profound effect on his decision to attempt to capture the spirit of the world's ordinary peoples in their struggle to survive consequence and injustice.
Raoul later went on to study filmmaking at New York University where in addition to his studies, he worked as a cameraman on documentaries, narrative films, music videos and commercials. He was also a butcher and a cook, and in 2000 at the age of 21, opened his own multimedia restaurant.
During his experiences on Sept 11 he was once again touched by the the ordinary New Yorker in extraordinary circumstances. Raoul began taking photographs of the hidden life of everyday. He also continued to work as a cameraman and directed several of his own award winning short films.
In 2004, he became a key figure in setting up an international section of a film school in Paris, France and worked on over 60 short films. Continuing to take photographs on the streets of Paris, he matured in the technical craft of the still image and began selling his photographs to local publications.
Driven by a new found passion for photography, Raoul is now back in New York City in hopes of becoming a photojournalist.

http://karimraoulimages.com/karimrao...ite/index.html
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1760849/
http://www.fandango.com/karimraoul/filmography/p558402

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I am a staff photographer with the NY Daily News for 10 years, adjunct professor at City Tech, City University of NY, chairman of Region 2 National Press Photographers Association and an active member in NY Press Photographers Association. I've been photographer, journalist and editor for 26 years. I am an alumni of NYU.

Source: http://www.plaxo.com/profile/show/64...4173d7f30d40d9

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Steve McCurry, recognized universally as one of today’s finest image-makers, has won many of photography’s top awards. Best known for his evocative color photography, McCurry, in the finest documentary tradition, captures the essence of human struggle and joy. Member of Magnum Photos since 1986, McCurry has searched and found the unforgettable; many of his images have become modern icons. Born in Philadelphia, McCurry graduated cum laude from the College of Arts and Architecture at the Pennsylvania State University. After working at a newspaper for two years, he left for India to freelance. It was in India that McCurry learned to watch and wait on life. “If you wait,” he realized, “people will forget your camera and the soul will drift up into view.”

More here: http://www.stevemccurry.com/main.php

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Susan Meiselas received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College and her M.A. in visual education from Harvard University. Her first major photographic essay focused on the lives of women doing striptease at New England country fairs. She photographed the carnivals during three consecutive summers while teaching photography in the New York public schools. CARNIVAL STRIPPERS was published by Farrar, Straus & Giroux in 1976. A selection was installed at the Whitney Museum of Art in June 2000. The original book was revised and reprinted by the Whitney Museum and Steidl Verlag in 2003.

Meiselas joined Magnum Photos in 1976 and has worked as a freelance photographer since then. She is best known for her coverage of the insurrection in Nicaragua and her documentation of human rights issues in Latin America, which were published widely throughout the world. In 1981, Pantheon published her second monograph, NICARAGUA, JUNE 1978-JULY 1979 which was reprinted by Aperture in the fall 2008.
http://www.susanmeiselas.com/

911 TV Fakery: Scott Meyers Video Fraud

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Port Authority of NY & NJ
42nd Street Ballroom, Managed overhaul of Audio Kinetic sculpture by George Rhoads. Sculpture is a large, 8’ x 8’ x 8’ Plexiglas and steel sculpture filled with billiard balls, chimes, xylophone bars, a wok, and various pumps and motors. Overhaul involved hinging cabinetry, adding motion detectors to lessen wear and tear, replacing large loop d’loop, and cleaning and painting sculpture.

Source: http://forums.ni.com/attachments/ni/...l%20Resume.pdf

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James Nachtwey is an extremely inspiring photographer. He has been all over the world documenting the real life situations that he has seen. His photos are very dramatic and real. He started out photographing in America and taking photos of the war. He also has taken photos of the people in India, Rwanda, Bosnia, South Africa, Kosovo, Israel, Indonesia and more. He even was there in New York city on 9-11-01 and had taken very vivid photos of the twin towers not knowing what exactly had happened when he first saw the sky filled with debris, dust, and smoke. All of his photos make an impact because they all show drastic times that our world has experienced. On his website I like the quote that he said below.

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“I have been a witness, and these pictures are

my testimony. The events I have recorded should

not be forgotten and must not be repeated.” James Nachtwey

Source: http://jessicaniebuhr.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/james-nachtwey/

Second plane hit, ABC, 9/11, 20:49 Naka Nathaniel

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Naka Nathaniel is a retired multimedia journalist and consultant living in Atlanta, Georgia. He was an original member of the team that launched NYTimes.com in 1995.

On September 11, he filmed the second plane crash from his rooftop in Brooklyn. A sequence of shots from the videotape were the dominant images on NYTimes.com during the day and the footage was broadcast on network and cable channels.

He spent almost five years based in Paris toting his cameras, computers and communications gear to produce multimedia features for The New York Times from A (Alaska's Arctic National Wildlife Refuge) to Z (Zimbabwe) -- including the three countries in George W. Bush's "Axis of Evil." He was nominated for an Emmy in 2006 for work in Darfur. Footage from travels with Nicholas Kristof was used in the HBO documentary “Reporter.”

A graduate of the University of Texas, he is married to Meredith Artley, the managing editor of CNN.com. He is now the stay-at-home parent for their young son.

Source: http://www.nakanathaniel.com/Site/Splash.html

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 22:12 schreef Gray het volgende:

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Het was een heel klein circuit aan 'getuigen' en beelden die in de media verschenen zijn. Zelfs de zogenaamde live-beelden van nieuwszenders die aan sterke competitie zouden doen komen allemaal uit dezelfde poel. Daarom raad ik critici nogmaals aan om dit te bekijken:

Simon Shack's Synched Out

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...en zich af te vragen of de waarschijnlijkheid van vervalsing van beeldmateriaal niet stijgt wanneer het allemaal uit dezelfde informatiestroom lijkt te komen.

De volgende vraag die we ons allemaal moeten stellen is dan vervolgens: wat is wél echt gebeurd? Wat is echt en wat niet?

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 22:43 schreef Gray het volgende:

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Een hele tijd geleden al.

Ik wilde het een en ander debunken door de oorspronkelijke beelden, nieuwsberichten en officiele documentatie ernaast te leggen, maar daardoor begonnen juist vreemde zaken naar voren te komen. Bijvoorbeeld de aanslagen eerder die dag/nacht, de onderzoeken naar mogelijke terroristen in NY vóór 9-11 en hoe sommige fotografen half de stad door zijn gereisd in die paar chaotische uren. Maar wat me voornamelijk overhaalde was de slordigheid van het NIST rapport.

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 23:04 schreef Gray het volgende:

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Denk het ook niet.

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Op donderdag 6 september 2012 23:06 schreef Gray het volgende:

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Denk zelfs dan niet. De overheden nemen genoeg met het NIST rapport, en alle documentatie zal of nooit worden vrijgegeven, of niets nieuws brengen. Slot en grendel.

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Op vrijdag 7 september 2012 15:26 schreef Lavenderr het volgende:

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Dat wordt dan een clutch, zilverkleurig

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Op vrijdag 7 september 2012 17:31 schreef Tingo het volgende:

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Eigenlijk is jouwe handtas en schoenen collectie heel fascinerend....hoeveel paar schoenen heb je?

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Op vrijdag 7 september 2012 16:19 schreef Blue_Panther_Ninja het volgende:

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Ik weet wel dat staal melt bij ~2000 graden Celsius,maar wat is nou maximale temp van kerosine(volle tank dus)??

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Op zaterdag 8 september 2012 00:17 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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de wtc's bestonden uit 3 delen op elkaar gebouwd, dat betekent als je van 0 naar 90 wilde, moest je 3x van lift wisselen er bestond geen liftschacht die in 1x naar beneden geen, dus dat van die kerosine is onmogelijk

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Op zondag 9 september 2012 21:17 schreef Brave_Sir_Robin het volgende:
Was al eens eerder begonnen met

SEPTEMBER CLUES : Definitive Edition | 2008 (FULL VERSION)

kijken. Vandaag vanwege National Geographic weer eens gemotiveerd om verder te kijken.

Vind het alleen te veel pixels kijken en enorme conclusies daaraan verbinden, zoals deze:
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Op maandag 10 september 2012 21:10 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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oefff, 57 pagina's

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Op maandag 10 september 2012 21:36 schreef Blue_Panther_Ninja het volgende:
John Labriola

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I've started looking into the issue of this email address that John Labriola had on his original page of photos at framerate.net.

The email is john@sri-interactive.com.

This website is defunct now, as previously noted on this thread, but it is accessible via wayback machine here:

http://web.archive.org/we(...)sri-interactive.com/

some observations:

- wayback machine has caches of the site starting on 18 April 03 and ending on 8 Feb 05. During that time, the site does not change at all.

- on the site itself however, it states copyright 2001. So the site was built in 2001, was not picked up (for some reason) by wayback machine until 2003, and went offline in 2005, remaining all the time as it was from 2001

- reading through the site, it is entirely bogus, hot air. there is obviously no real business behind it. for example: there are no contact details of any kind. no address. no email, phone, fax. no email form to fill out. absolutely no method of contacting whatsoever.

- yet is it interesting the services that they claim to provide. these include: "We manage large develpment initiatives the include Revenue Control Systems and Security and Badgeing Systems and Intelligent Transportation Systems."

Well thats interesting because recall our John Labriola was hired by the port Authority as an expert in transport safety systems or something. here it is: from the Watching the World Change book:

"Though he has always been a street photographer, his bread and butter has been his dayjob: helping to design safety and security systems for the transportation industry."

- they claim to have been founded in 1992, yet I can find no other reference to them on the web.

- there is however, confusingly, a completely different company, with exactly the same name. The name of both companies: Systems Resources Inc. This other SRI can be found online at present here:
http://www.systemsresources.net/home.html

- I've had a thorough look around, and I'm convinced (at this stage) that this second company is genuine, and is unconnected to the first. The website is detailed. They are in an intersting area, software for govt depts and commercial clients, including homeland security (!), but at least the people at the company are named, and real. They have extensive web presences. I've been looking at their wedding photos. They have extensive government contracts in software and related fields. As I say, they certainly seem to be a real company, with real people. They claim to have been founded in 1998. They dont seem to have any connection whatsoever, apart from the name, with the first "SRI", nor with any of the people we have been looking at.

- It seems to me that if this second Systems resources Inc is real, and they were founded 6 years after the first Systems Resources Inc, then something is clrealy not right. the second company would have done due diligence searches, and having found another company with the same name, would have registered a different name. The fact that they have the same name suggests, to me, that the first company never existed in 1992, nor anytime.

- There's a bit more about the name. SRI is also Standford Research Institute, and sri.com is their website, and naturally it's a serious deal. check it out

- yet on this sri-interactive.com website at wayback machine, they actually list their address at one point as sri.com. this is impossible. this two-bit outfit never had the sri.com web address at any stage.

- so they went with sri-interactive.com. wait: that "-interactive.com" is familiar. where have I seen that today. oh yeah, thats right, AJ Russos company Beccaria Visual Solutions Inc has a website called be-interactive.com. check it out.
http://www.be-interactive.com/

- so lets put the pieces together now. sri-interactive.com is a bogus website for a company that never existed. it was put together by AJ Russo and brother(s), who also created the be-interactive.com site, and the framerate.net site, and the Beccaria Visual Solutions company. John Labriola's email address was given as john@sri-interactive.com. this email address was created specifically for the ruse. as was the website in 2001. there was never any intent for it to attract customers or anything like that. the website existed purely to provide cover for this email address for "John Labrioni".

- so the email address also is bogus, and his stories of receiving hundreds of emails from family members of victims and helping them through with his counsel are also bogus

- let's just really drive this point home. if this was the genuine email of John Labrioni, then the only reason he had the email was because he must have been an employee. they aren't a generic email provider. but if he worked for them, there would be some evidence, anything, that shows this company existed. the opposite is the case: it could not have existed, because if it did, the genuine Systems Resources Inc, at systemsresources.net would never have named itself that in 1998. and these guys are definitely real. go on, check out the wedding pics of the daughter of their VP, Jim Schlapo. They're kind of fun.
http://picasaweb.google.c(...)WHgc3wH6Y69j5qhMXjmw

- the point is this guy is real. and if he is real: then John Labriola is not.

- and if John Labiola isn't real, then the only photos taken inside the towers after the crashes and before the collapses, the only photos: are bogus also.

- fake fake fake it's all fake.

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Op maandag 10 september 2012 23:00 schreef ohokok het volgende:
jij bent (vind ik )de mart smeets van de 911 topics, jokkebrok

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here he is in the church:

"Debris hit the roof of the church. People dove under pews. I looked out the front door, I couldn't see three feet in front of me, I thought it must be impossible to breath outside. We gathered everyone inside the church, and made plans to evacuate. We searched the church, found some water, food and made up wet towels for people inside and out should we need to leave the protection of the church, we waited for the air outside to be clear enough to see. Someone found a radio and positioned it on a pulpit."

Now, here's a different account of what happened inside Trinity Church that morning:

"The Rev. Stuart Hoke, executive assistant to Dr. Matthews, was among those in the church leading prayers and hymns for shocked passers-by some time later when a tower at the WTC collapsed. The power was cut. Some of the congregation fled into Broadway, while others remained in the nave. Trinity's office tower shuddered and dust began to penetrate the building down lift shafts from the top."
http://nyc-architecture.com/LM/LM047-TRINITYCHURCH.htm

It's a small point perhaps: but Labriola has "everyone" gathered inside the church, whilst the other account has a bunch of people leaving....

but it gets worse for Labriola when we read the direct account of Rev Hoke. It is here:

"All those people were running down Broadway for shelter," Hoke said. In an effort to manage the crowd of people, he led a service of hymns, readings and prayers he thought would be familiar to the "most eclectic crowd imaginable." They sang "O God Our Help In Ages Past." They recited Psalm 23. He read the Beatitudes and Romans 8 -- that nothing can separate us from the love of God.

At 9:58 a.m., the church windows cracked and the lights went out. The south tower collapsed. People in the church got under the pews and began screaming. Hoke and a police officer led them to the South Street ferry.

Then Hoke returned to Trinity's office building, where there was a day school with 85 children between the ages of three months and five years old. Coordinated with walkie talkies, the staff sheltered the children and started trotting down the street with them to the Staten Island Ferry. But the massive cloud of debris from the second tower collapse overwhelmed them.

"The gigantic dust ball knocked us down," Hoke said. Then they got up and ushered the children in the direction of the ferry.

"It was utter chaos," Hoke said.

Read more: The Herald-Sun - Remembering 9 11

http://www.heraldsun.com/(...)cle-Remembering-9-11

this flatly contradicts John Labriola. lets return to his version of what happenede next in the church:

Minutes later the second building fell. Blackness again, larger objects where hitting the roof of the church, we had relatively clean air inside but there was a lot of deliberation about whether it was safer to stay in the church or take our chances outside. 40 minutes or so later it was again clear enough to see across the street. We said our good-byes to each other and in groups of two and three ventured out to find a way home.

so the priest Rev Stuart Hoke says he and a police officer escorted the people out of the church, to the ferry, before the second tower collapse. John Labriola says they stayed in there until 40 minutes (!) after the second tower collapse.

So there are two accounts: Hoke's account, and a hoax account.

And now it's Labriola's story which is really starting to collapse....those pictures exist. someone took them, of something. but the Labriola account is a crock.

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in another account, the Rev Hoke adds this detail:

He was at Trinity Church, a sister church to St. Paul’s and also in the shadows of the Twin Towers. The historic church, which was founded in 1677, was the place where persons sought refuge escaping from the collapsing towers. Hoke began an impromptu church service but at 9:53 a.m. as the lights went out and the church was filled with the debris of the collapsed south tower, police and firefighters ordered the building evacuated. As they left Rev. Hoke asked the 30 who were there to join him in singing, "O God our help in ages past, Our hope for years to come, Our shelter from the stormy blast, And our eternal home." Jesus said about His church, "The gates of hell shall not overpower it" (Matt. 16:18 ).

http://www.qsl.net/w5vzc/09-11-02.html

Now we hear that the police and firefighters ordered it to be evacuated, while Labriola says they remained in there until after 11.10am (ie 40 minutes after WTC1 collapse at 10.30am).

This is really amazing stuff....Labriola is so busted.

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Op maandag 10 september 2012 23:34 schreef ohokok het volgende:

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ja complimet gozer, mart kan irritant zijn, ik weet het. ik bedoel dat mart de kunst heeft om je (mij) mee te slepen in iets wat je half boeit, (bepaalde sport). dat kan jij ook, jij maakt het interessant om het te blijven volgen, terwijl we al lang weten dat het een inside job was.

uiteindelijk is het allemaal afleiding, vinden de controlers wel leuk zo die afleiding om men bezig te houden..
kunnen zij weer verder kutten

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Op maandag 10 september 2012 23:38 schreef ohokok het volgende:
nee, ik wissel af en toe van naam
vind ik leuk
ik heb geen klonen

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Op maandag 10 september 2012 23:39 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Op maandag 10 september 2012 23:48 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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ja, ik ben op pag 10, maar fake is hij dus niet, zoals eerst werd beweerd