Amerikaanse Presidentsverkiezingen #45: McCain is black

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Palin Counters AP Slam: “The Associated Press is Wrong. “


by Fin Gomez
SAN FRANCISCO, CA -

Before leaving for a fundraising stop in San Francisco, Sarah Palin responded to a reporter’s question on the AP analysis this morning that framed Palin’s recent attacks on Obama as ” racially-tinged.”

“The Associated Press is wrong. The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn’t been talked about and I think its fair to talk about where Barack Obama kicked off his political career, in the guy’s living room. And he of course, having been associated with that group, a known domestic terrorist group, it’s important for Americans to know. Its really important for Americans to start knowing who the real Barack Obama is.”

In an analysis piece out today, AP writer Douglass K. Daniel slammed Palin’s recent shots on Obama’s past association with radical militant Bill Ayers as “ unsubstantiated and carried a racially-tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.”

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 09:36 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 09:47 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:

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Dit gaat nog een staartje krijgen.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 09:47 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:

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Dit gaat nog een staartje krijgen.

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Alaska has the highest rape rate in USA.
http://www.swivel.com/graphs/show/17602366

However, most of the abortion excuse... 95% were Birth Control Pill failure.
only 1% were from Rape and Incest.
4% were due to fetal abnormalities or mother's health problems.

http://www.abortiontv.com/Misc/AbortionStatistics.htm

So here's my question.... why ban abortion that was from rape or incest if they are NOT the majority?

Palin's views are stupid.

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Pitbull Palin Mauls McCain



SARAH PALIN’S post-Couric/Fey comeback at last week’s vice presidential debate was a turning point in the campaign. But if she “won,” as her indulgent partisans and press claque would have it, the loser was not Joe Biden. It was her running mate. With a month to go, the 2008 election is now an Obama-Palin race — about “the future,” as Palin kept saying Thursday night — and the only person who doesn’t seem to know it is Mr. Past, poor old John McCain.

To understand the meaning of Palin’s “victory,” it must be seen in the context of two ominous developments that directly preceded it. LEES VERDER...

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 10:01 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Welnee ... d'r is geen noemenswaardige connectie.

McCain heeft openlijk gezegd dat ze vanaf nu "op de man" gingen spelen en dat het moddergooien dus zou beginnen van hun kant af. Dat is hetzelfde als zeggen dat ze aan het verliezen zijn en dat ze het niet kunnen redden met logica en redenatie. Dat Palin voorop staat om de modder te gooien geeft alleen maar aan wat haar functie is ; als handpop zij kan het beste liegen dat ze barst zonder dat McCain er veel schade onder lijdt ... denken ze.


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Obama beticht van aannemen illegale bijdragen

WASHINGTON - De Democratische presidentskandidaat Barack Obama heeft te weinig actie ondernomen om illegale bijdragen voor zijn campagne uit de verkiezingskas te houden. Dat heeft het Nationale Comité van de Republikeinse Partij (RNC) zondag gesteld.


Volgens het RNC heeft Obama illegale bijdragen van buitenlanders geaccepteerd en heeft hij meer geld aangenomen van kleine donoren dan wettelijk is toegestaan. De RNC wil dat de Federale Kiescommissie (FEC) zich over de fondswerving door Obama buigt.

Een woordvoerder van Obama zei dat het team van de Democratische kandidaat alle mogelijke inspanningen levert om te voorkomen dat er illegale bijdragen binnenkomen. Ook wees hij erop dat de Republikein John McCain 1,2 miljoen dollar (870.000 euro) aan donoren heeft moeten teruggeven, omdat die giften niet legaal zouden kunnen zijn

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 10:47 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 10:55 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Beetje vreemd dat Colorado bij McCain wordt bijgeschreven. Je zou het wellicht nog als toss-up zien, maar het is meer leaning Obama.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 10:53 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Ook wees hij erop dat de Republikein John McCain 1,2 miljoen dollar (870.000 euro) aan donoren heeft moeten teruggeven, omdat die giften niet legaal zouden kunnen zijn

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 11:24 schreef Verbal het volgende:
Zó is Obama toevallig.

Toegegeven, touchy-feely, maar ik kwam het tegen, dus ik dacht, kom, ik deel het met jullie

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 12:01 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:

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Lekker klef.

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McCain Brother Calls Northern Virginia 'Communist Country'

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's brother made an apparent joke at a campaign rally this weekend that might not play well in parts of newly competitive Virginia.

Joe McCain, speaking at an event in support of his brother, called two Democratic-leaning areas in Northern Virginia "communist country," according to a report on The Washington Post's Web site.

"I've lived here for at least 10 years and before that, about every third duty I was in either Arlington or Alexandria, up in communist country," Joe McCain, a Navy veteran, said about his military postings. He spoke at an event in Loudon County, Va.

Joe McCain then apologized, but the remark drew laughter at the event, according to the report.

Virginia has long been a Republican stronghold in presidential elections, but Democrat Barack Obama is running even or ahead of McCain in recent state polls. Obama is being helped by fast-growing communities in the Washington, D.C., suburbs of Northern Virginia, which tend to vote more Democratic than other parts of the state.

One of those areas is Arlington, Va., where John McCain owns a condominium.

"This was Joe McCain's unsuccessful attempt at humor," said McCain campaign spokeswoman Gail Gitcho. "John McCain and Sarah Palin are committed to winning the support of voters in Northern Virginia and understand the region's importance to victory statewide."

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McCain's Own 60's Radical Pal

McCain campaign shows no shame in engaging in a tired guilt-by-association tactic as Sarah Palin accuses Obama of "palling around with terrorists." This desperate calumny derives from Obama once serving on the same non-profit board as former 60's radical Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the Weather Underground.

But what about McCain's own associations with former 60's radicals. Indeed, until just a few years ago, McCain openly boasted not only about his passing friendship but also his deep collaboration with one of the most prominent of Vietnam-era student radicals, David Ifshin. The same David Ifshin who denounced America on Radio Hanoi as McCain sat locked up as a POW.

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That John McCain is unrecognizable from the man who today stands behind the scurrilous attacks suggesting that Barack Obama pals around with terrorists because Bill Ayres - when Obama was literally eight years old--stupidly fancied himself an armed revolutionary.

The old John McCain was able to overcome his own repulsion against a young man who went on the radio station of the enemy who was holding and torturing him and built a warm friendship with him.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 13:53 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Wat een gapend aarsgat...

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 13:27 schreef Verbal het volgende:

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Meer...

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:06 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Daar staan nogal wat claims over McCain in zeg.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 09:27 schreef contactpersoon het volgende:
Om op de TT te reageren; he sure is!

http://www.rollingstone.c(...)the_real_john_mccain

http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/player/23356460

Als de rest van de media dit oppikken is het over-en-uit voor McCain.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:12 schreef pberends het volgende:

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If heroism is defined by physical suffering, Carol McCain is every bit her ex-husband's equal. Driving alone on Christmas Eve 1969, she skidded out on a patch of ice and crashed into a telephone pole. She would spend six months in the hospital and undergo 23 surgeries. The former model McCain bragged of to his buddies in the POW camp as his "long tall Sally" was now five inches shorter and walked with crutches.

By any standard, McCain treated her contemptibly. Whatever his dreams of getting laid in Rio, he got plenty of ass during his command post in Jacksonville. According to biographer Robert Timberg, McCain seduced his conquests on off-duty cross-country flights — even though adultery is a court-martial offense. He was also rumored to be romantically involved with a number of his subordinates.

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On a diplomatic trip to Saudi Arabia with Tower, he tried to get some tourists he disliked in trouble with the authorities by littering the room-service trays outside their door with empty bottles of alcohol.

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McCain performed adequately on the Oriskany. On October 25th, 1967, he bombed a pair of Soviet MiGs parked on an airfield outside Hanoi. His record was now even. Enemy planes destroyed by McCain: two. American planes destroyed by McCain: two.

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Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend." During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."

Additionally, in 1998, Liddy reportedly held a fundraiser at his home for McCain. Liddy was reportedly scheduled to speak at another fundraiser for McCain in 2000. The Charlotte Observer reported on January 23, 2000, that McCain's campaign vouched for Liddy's "character"

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:41 schreef ethiraseth het volgende:
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Zo slecht dat het wel weer grappig wordt.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:53 schreef laforest het volgende:

Bill O'Reilly geeft een goede analyse

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 14:53 schreef laforest het volgende:
http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/index.html

Zie filmpje

Ik had hem net in het verkeerde topic geplaatst

Bill O'Reilly geeft een goede analyse

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 15:03 schreef NJ het volgende:

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Inderdaad een redelijk objectieve analyse. Zeker voor O'reilly.

Hij roept naar mijn mening alleen wel heel makkelijk dat als McCain een goed antwoord geeft op die financiële crisis hij Obama voorbij gaat.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 15:21 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Gore won bijna drie procent. Wel goed kijken. Iets meer dan twee dan.

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Also, not only does McCain share Vietnam veteran status with the last two Democratic nominees for president (Gore and Kerry); he also shares the need for a similar Electoral College strategy. At this point in the campaign in both 2000 and 2004, Gore and Kerry seemed to have limited room to maneuver in the states. Gore pulled out of Ohio (about this time) to focus on Florida, and Kerry pulled out of Missouri to focus on Ohio. McCain's pullout of Michigan has the same feel to it -- meaning it's not a bad strategy given the circumstances. The fact is, like Gore and Kerry, McCain's got a narrow path to 270, which explains why Sarah Palin was in Omaha yesterday and why there is more money being thrown into Maine. McCain's campaign is not playing for a big win, just any win. And while both Kerry and Gore did end up losing, it was VERY close. When the environment is against you, it's not a bad strategy.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 15:58 schreef Elfletterig het volgende:
Bij Real Clear Politics is Obama alweer verder uitgelopen. Het RCP-average (een gemiddelde van diverse polls) geeft Obama nu een voorsprong van 6,4 procentpunten. Gisteren was dat nog 5,9.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 17:20 schreef laforest het volgende:
flauwe humor weer
Het gaat hier om serieuze verkiezingen hoor, om het lot van onze wereld mag je haast wel zeggen en alles wat men kan is domme comic plaatsjes posten

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 17:27 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Mag ik vragen naar jouw leeftijd?

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 17:41 schreef laforest het volgende:

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28, in december 29
had je ook wel in mijn fotoboek/profiel kunnen zien geloof ik

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Geboortedatum: 00-00-0000

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 18:30 schreef Caesu het volgende:
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is dat haar kind. willow of piper.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 17:20 schreef laforest het volgende:
flauwe humor weer
Het gaat hier om serieuze verkiezingen hoor, om het lot van onze wereld mag je haast wel zeggen en alles wat men kan is domme comic plaatsjes posten

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 22:48 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Zijn dit eigenlijk normale namen in de VS Of is het zo iets als Dannyboy in Nederland is?

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 22:48 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Zijn dit eigenlijk normale namen in de VS Of is het zo iets als Dannyboy in Nederland is?

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 22:48 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Zijn dit eigenlijk normale namen in de VS Of is het zo iets als Dannyboy in Nederland is?

Johnny Cash & Jimmie Rodgers - Danny Boy

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 09:27 schreef contactpersoon het volgende:
Om op de TT te reageren; he sure is!

http://www.rollingstone.c(...)the_real_john_mccain

http://www.rollingstone.com/videos/player/23356460

Als de rest van de media dit oppikken is het over-en-uit voor McCain.

OLBERMANN DESTROYS JOHN McCAIN!!!

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In less than a month, the American people will make a choice on where they want this country to go, and who they trust to lead us in a time of war and economic crisis. The time for debating and electioneering is drawing to a close. Soon it will be the time for choosing.
Today we have seen a reminder of the importance of that choice. The action Congress took last week to address our financial crisis was a tourniquet, but not a permanent solution. Today we are seeing the stock market fall, and the credit crisis spread to other parts of the world. Our economy is still hurting -- working families are worried about the price of groceries, the price of gas, keeping their jobs and paying their mortgage -- further action is needed. We need to restore confidence in our economy and in our government.

Washington is still on the wrong track and we still need change. The status quo is not on the ballot. We are going to see change in Washington. The question is: in what direction will we go? Will our country be a better place under the leadership of the next president -- a more secure, prosperous, and just society? Will you be better off, in the jobs you hold now and in the opportunities you hope for? Will your sons and daughters grow up in the kind of country you wish for them, rising in the world and finding in their own lives the best of America? And which candidate's experience -- in government and in life -- makes him a more reliable leader for our country and commander in chief for our troops? Who is ready to lead? In a time of trouble and danger for our country, who will put our country first?

I set out on my own campaign for president many months ago. I promised at the beginning to be straight with the American people, knowing that even those who don't agree with me on everything would expect at least that much. I didn't just show up out of nowhere [This line just got a HUGE response from the audience. -- amc ]] after all -- America knows me. You know my strengths and my faults. You know my story and my convictions. And though familiarity in politics can be both helpful to a candidate, or not so helpful, it does at least fill out the picture and answer the essential questions. You need to know who you're putting in the White House -- where the candidate came from and what he or she believes. And you need to know now, before it is time to choose.

In 21 months, during hundreds of speeches, town halls and debates, I have kept my promise to level with you about my plans to reform Washington and get this country moving again. As a senator, I've seen the corrupt ways of Washington in wasteful spending and other abuses of power, and as president I'm going to end them -- whatever it takes. I will propose and sign into law reforms to bring tax relief to the middle class and help to businesses so they can create jobs. I will get the rising cost of food and gas under control. I will help families keep their home, and help students struggling to pay for college. I will make health care more accessible and affordable. I will impose a spending freeze on all but the most vital functions of government. I will review every agency of the federal government, improve those that need to be improved and eliminate those that aren't working for the American people. I will confront th e ten trillion-dollar debt that the federal government has run up, and balance the federal budget by the end of my term in office.

This is the agenda I have set before my fellow citizens. And the same standards of clarity and candor must now be applied to my opponent. Even at this late hour in the campaign, there are essential things we don't know about Senator Obama or the record that he brings to this campaign.

We have all heard what he has said, but it is less clear what he has done or what he will do. What Senator Obama says today and what he has done in the past are often two different things. He has often changed his positions in this campaign, and the best way to determine where he would really take this country is to examine where he has tried to take it in the past.

My opponent has invited serious questioning by announcing a few weeks ago that he would quote -- "take off the gloves." Since then, whenever I have questioned his policies or his record, he has called me a liar.

Rather than answer his critics, Senator Obama will try to distract you from noticing that he never answers the serious and legitimate questions he has been asked. But let me reply in the plainest terms I know. I don't need lessons about telling the truth to American people. And were I ever to need any improvement in that regard, I probably wouldn't seek advice from a Chicago politician.

My opponent's touchiness every time he is questioned about his record should make us only more concerned. For a guy who's already authored two memoirs, he's not exactly an open book. It's as if somehow the usual rules don't apply, and where other candidates have to explain themselves and their records, Senator Obama seems to think he is above all that. Whatever the question, whatever the issue, there's always a back story with Senator Obama. All people want to know is: What has this man ever actually accomplished in government? What does he plan for America? In short: Who is the real Barack Obama? But ask such questions and all you get in response is another barrage of angry insults.

Our current economic crisis is a good case in point. What was his actual record in the years before the great economic crisis of our lifetimes?

This crisis started in our housing market in the form of subprime loans that were pushed on people who could not afford them. Bad mortgages were being backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and it was only a matter of time before a contagion of unsustainable debt began to spread. This corruption was encouraged by Democrats in Congress, and abetted by Senator Obama.

Senator Obama has accused me of opposing regulation to avert this crisis. I guess he believes if a lie is big enough and repeated often enough it will be believed. But the truth is I was the one who called at the time for tighter restrictions on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that could have helped prevent this crisis from happening in the first place.

Senator Obama was silent on the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and his Democratic allies in Congress opposed every effort to rein them in. As recently as September of last year he said that subprime loans had been, quote, "a good idea." Well, Senator Obama, that "good idea" has now plunged this country into the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

To hear him talk now, you'd think he'd always opposed the dangerous practices at these institutions. But there is absolutely nothing in his record to suggest he did. He was surely familiar with the people who were creating this problem. The executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have advised him, and he has taken their money for his campaign.

He has received more money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac than any other senator in history, with the exception of the chairman of the committee overseeing them. Did he ever talk to the executives at Fannie and Freddie about these reckless loans? Did he ever discuss with them the stronger oversight I proposed? If Senator Obama is such a champion of financial regulation, why didn't he support these regulations that could have prevented this crisis in the first place? He won't tell you, but you deserve an answer.

Even after he refused to lift a finger to prevent this crisis, when the crisis hit, he was missing in action. He didn't start making calls to round up votes until after the rescue bill failed in the House and the markets crashed. We continue to see the price of delay today as the markets continue to fall. Today the DOW has fallen below 10,000. And yet, members of his own party said they felt no pressure to vote for the bill. Why didn't Senator Obama work to pass this bill from the start? Why did he let it fail and drag out this crisis for a full week before doing a thing to help pass it?

Again on taxes, we see a difference between what Senator Obama says today, what he said yesterday and what he has actually done. Over the course of this campaign, he has had many different plans to raise your taxes. During the Democratic primary, he promised to double taxes on every American with a dividend or an investment. He promised to raise payroll taxes. He promised higher taxes on electricity. Now, Senator Obama claims he will give 95 percent of Americans tax relief. He actually promised the same thing when he was running for Senate in Illinois, but once elected he never introduced legislation to do so. Instead, he voted for the Democratic budget resolution that promised to raise taxes on people making just 42,000 dollars a year. At the time, he even said his vote was intended to get "our nation's priorities back on track." If he's such a defender of the middle class, why did he vote to raise their taxes? Whatever ha ppened to the tax relief he promised them when he was a candidate for the Senate? And why should middle class Americans trust him to keep promises he has already broken?

Senator Obama and I both have differences with how President Bush has handled the economy. But he thinks taxes are too low, and I think spending is too high. The government's out of control spending has resulted in a weaker dollar, raising the cost of groceries and gasoline, and killing jobs.

I will veto pork barrel legislation and cut wasteful government spending. Senator Obama has a different plan. According to third party estimates, he will increase government spending by over 860 billion dollars. He has denied it, but he has refused to tell you how much he does plan to spend. What is the total of his increased spending? Americans deserve to know just how much more of their money Senator Obama intends to spend, and how much more debt he plans to burden them with.

Senator Obama has also criticized earmark spending, those wasteful pork barrel projects stuck in spending bills behind closed doors. And yet, despite his talk on the campaign trail, his actual record is full of requests for earmark projects. In his three short years in the Senate, he has requested nearly a billion dollars in pork projects for his state -- a million dollars for every day he's been in office. Far from fighting earmarks in Congress, Senator Obama has been an eager participant in this corrupt system. In one instance, he sought more than 3 million dollars for a new projector at a planetarium in his hometown. Coincidentally, the chairman of that planetarium pledged to raise more than $200,000 for Senator Obama's campaign. We don't know if they ever discussed the money for the planetarium, and no one has asked Senator Obama. But even the appearance of this kind of insider-dealing disgusts Americans. I'm going to put a stop to that, my friends, if I'm President.

I have made every single donor to my campaign publicly available, while Senator Obama has taken in over 200 million dollars from undisclosed sources. We have already seen the potential for fraud because of his refusal to disclose his donors. His campaign had to return $33,000 in illegal foreign funds from Palestinian donors, and this weekend, we found out about another $28,000 in illegal donations. Why has Senator Obama refused to disclose the people who are funding his campaign? Again, the American people deserve answers.

On health care, Senator Obama has been misleading you about my plan to give you more money for health care, and he has been equally misleading about his own plans. He has said his goal is a single payer system where government is in charge of health care and bureaucrats stand between you and your doctor. Under the plan he has proposed, he will fine families that don't have the kind of health insurance that Senator Obama tells them to purchase. He will fine employers who do not offer the health insurance that he thinks they should offer.

What he doesn't say, and what nobody has asked, is how big his fines will be. What he doesn't want you to know is that with a small fine, his plan will encourage companies to just pay the fine, drop existing health care coverage for their employees and leave them with only one real option: government run health care.

Who is the real Senator Obama? Is he the candidate who promises to cut middle class taxes, or the politician who voted to raise middle class taxes? Is he the candidate who talks about regulation or the politician who took money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and turned a blind eye as they ran our economy into a ditch?

Is he the candidate who promises change, or is he the politician who has bought into everything that is wrong with Washington? We can't change the system with someone who's never fought the system.

Washington is on the wrong track and I'm going to set it right. The American people know my record. They know I am going to change Washington, because I've done it before. They know I'm going to reform our broken institutions in Washington and on Wall Street because I've done it before. They know I'm going to deliver relief to the middle class, because that's what I've done.

You don't have to hope that things will change when you vote for me. You know things will change, because I have been fighting for change in Washington my whole career. I've been fighting for you my whole life. That's what I'm going to do as President of the United States. Fight for you and put the government back on the side of the people.

Thank you.

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 22:54 schreef Monidique het volgende:

Obama called a terrorist in front of erratic McCain

Een behoorlijk schizofreen filmpje van John McCain. Hij zegt: "What does he plan for America? In short: Who is the real Barack Obama? But ask such questions and all you get in response is another barrage of angry insults."

Dus wat gebeurt er? John McCain vraagt wie Barack Obama is en het publiek schreeuwt als sovjetsoldaten aan speed: Zero! Terrorist^*!

Uhm, óke? , !

_{*: Met een goedkeurende glimlach van The Maverick.}

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 23:36 schreef Majar het volgende:

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 16:10 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Embarracuda

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But what a desperate empty embarrassment the McCain campaign has become.

http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/embarracuda.html

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:33 schreef Montov het volgende:
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It is appropriate that the prime vessel for this assault is Sarah Palin, whose very presence on a national ticket is an insult to your intelligence. She now has "credibility," we are told, because she managed to read talking points off notecards in the debate last week with unwitting enthusiasm.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:33 schreef Montov het volgende:
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While Gov. Sarah Palin has waived her privacy rights so details about her firing of a state commissioner can be made public, she has not called on others in her administration to do the same.

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"The governor waived her confidentiality and wanted this matter decided openly," attorney Thomas Van Flein said. "Mr. Petumenos is in charge of his investigation and until and unless he says otherwise, we will respect his decision."

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WASHINGTON (AP) — John McCain's campaign is criticizing Barack Obama for his ties to a former radical who engaged in violent acts four decades ago, but McCain himself was closely connected to a private group that supplied aid to rebels trying to overthrow the leftist government of Nicaragua during the Iran-Contra affair.

The U.S. Council for World Freedom was part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The group was dedicated to stamping out communism around the globe.

The council's founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter but not an active member in the group.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:41 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Dat is gewoon een column van iemand die dus duidelijk Democraat is (ook gezien zijn geschiedenis) en dat in zijn schrijven heel duidelijk laat merken dat ie partijdig is.

Ik kan dit broddelwerkje dus ook niet serieus nemen omdat het té partijdig is..

Sarah Palin heeft niks te verbergen
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Bron: Anchorage Daily news

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:44 schreef Verbal het volgende:
Maar goed... na The Keating Five en Gordon Liddy nog een zeer dubieuze connectie uit McCains verleden:
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Hele verhaal

V.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:51 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:

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Wink and smile, wink and smile... Team of Mavericks...

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:52 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Erg inhoudelijk

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:52 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Wat is er zo erg aan die connectie
Dat was tegen de communisten in Nicaragua, lijkt me alleen maar te waarderen

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:52 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Wat is er zo erg aan die connectie
Dat was tegen de communisten in Nicaragua, lijkt me alleen maar te waarderen

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:55 schreef Verbal het volgende:

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Je doet je avatar eer aan... ik denk dat Palin ook nog nooit heeft gehoord van het Iran-Contra-schandaal.

V.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:06 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Ik heb daar wel van gehoord en ik heb ook wel het handboek van de contra's gelezen die tijden op het internet heeft gestaan (ik weet niet of het er nog steeds op te vinden is though).
Zoals ik zeg, ik vind het geen schandelijke connectie omdat dit door de CIA geleid werd en dat is een staatsinstelling, geen terroristische organisatie.
Waar mensen werken worden fouten gemaakt, ik denk niet dat John McCain daar persoonlijk voor verantwoordelijk is

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:41 schreef laforest het volgende:

Bron: Anchorage Daily news

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:15 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Het komt godver wel weer van diep, he. Anchorage Daily News. Oplage 70.000? Zelfs de Donald Duck wordt door meer mensen gelezen

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:15 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Het komt godver wel weer van diep, he. Anchorage Daily News. Oplage 70.000? Zelfs de Donald Duck wordt door meer mensen gelezen

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:15 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Het komt godver wel weer van diep, he. Anchorage Daily News. Oplage 70.000? Zelfs de Donald Duck wordt door meer mensen gelezen

Ter Vergelijk:
De Telegraaf : 700.000
NRC : 280.000
Volkskrant : 270.000
De Tina : 60.000

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:17 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Dat is wel veel voor een gemeenschap van 279.671 mensen.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:20 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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En 280.000 is weer weinig vergeleken bij 305.358.000.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:14 schreef laforest het volgende:
Niet als het tegen de vijand is, voor een goed doel of veiligheid van je volk en de Westerse wereld

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:22 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Je had je net gewoon vastgeluld
Je kom je weer met een flauwe opmerking. Die krant heeft gewoon een grote opgave voor het leesgebied dat men heeft daar.
Jij probeert gewoon ieder nieuwsfeit wat je niet aanstaat te marginaliseren, dat werkt niet altijd knul

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:25 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Weer een gevalletje doel en middelen. Dat het doel mogelijk het middel rechtvaardigt betekent niet dat het opeens geen terrorisme meer is. Daarnaast lijkt me bovenstaande nou niet bepaald van toepassing op de aangehaalde situatie.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:35 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Ik denk dat het wel van toepassing is omdat het communisme wel een bedreiging voor ons allen was en zelfs bijna tot een atoomoorlog heeft geleid.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:35 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Ik denk dat het wel van toepassing is omdat het communisme wel een bedreiging voor ons allen was en zelfs bijna tot een atoomoorlog heeft geleid.

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Ohio: McCain 48%, McCain 47%

http://politicalwire.com/(...)ey_swing_states.html

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It looks like McCain and McCain are neck and neck in Ohio.

Looks like Obama has lost Ohio based on these numbers. McCain coming in with a powerful 95% of the vote.

He is running against himself and is still managing to lose the state.

It's the Diebold machins in Ohio. They only count republican votes

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 10:40 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Communisme heeft niet bijna tot een atoomoorlog geleid "voor ons".

Als dat zo was dan hadden we nu een dik probleem met China ... maar op één of andere manier zijn de US en China dikke vriendjes momenteel.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 11:01 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Cuba crisis? Was een wereldwijde crisis hoor

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 11:29 schreef Verbal het volgende:

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Da's zeker waar. Maar hoezo was dat typisch een communistisch probleem, verder? Meer een typisch koude-oorlog-probleem.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 11:01 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Cuba crisis? Was een wereldwijde crisis hoor

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 11:32 schreef laforest het volgende:

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en dat was geen communistisch probleem wil je beweren?

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Op maandag 6 oktober 2008 23:53 schreef speknek het volgende:
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"There's only one poll that counts," Virginia GOP Chairman Jeffrey Frederick told FOXNews.com. "Part of my skepticism in polls is just overall, they never seem to tell you what happens on Election Day."

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 11:41 schreef Monidique het volgende:
blablabla

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Oh how far we have come in such a short period of time.

To say, as Gov. Sarah Palin is now doing, that Barack Obama pals around with terrorists is just outrageous.

But Obama's hands aren't clean either. Here is what he said in May of this year about McCain's involvement in the Keating Five, a savings and loan scandal that happened in the late 80s.

Obama said, "I don't think there is any doubt that John McCain's public record about issues that he's apologized for and written about is not germane to the presidency."

And yet this morning the Obama campaign released a mini-documentary, walking voters through all the details of the Keating Five -- making it very much germane.

There is just one month left. Please, please don't let this devolve into a campaign you are sickened by and embarrassed to be part of.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 12:36 schreef laforest het volgende:
Ik behoor niet tot de communistische zijde

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, dus voor mij is dat een communistisch probleem

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en ik ben er van overtuigd dat zowel McCain/Palin alsmede Obama/Biden dat met mij eens zijn

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 12:52 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Welke "zijde" behoor je dan wel toe?
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Daarmee geef je wel aan een naprater te zijn en geen denker.
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Als je een Amerikaans stemgerechtigde was wellicht wel ... puur om je stem te trekken. In realiteit (en na de verkiezingen) ligt het allemaal wat complexer dan "Ik hoor daarbij dus ik 'denk' zo".

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 13:21 schreef laforest het volgende:

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De Westerse, kapitalistische en vrije zijde.

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Neen, ik denk daar zelf zo over, is niet napraten, is mijn persoonlijke mening en om heel eerlijk te zijn is het gewoon een feit.

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Dat laaste maakt jou juist een naprater

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 13:42 schreef Verbal het volgende:
En zo heeft laforest de discussies in deze topics naar het niveau van de door hem zo aanbeden 'Could possibly be president' Palin gemanoeuvreerd: welles, nietes, welles, nietes.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 13:21 schreef laforest het volgende:
De ... vrije zijde.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 14:02 schreef matthijst het volgende:

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Ach, nog zo'n xenofoob.
Mooi op je plek bij Adolf McCain en Helga Palin

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 13:40 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:
Vannacht town hall debat? En hoelaat is het? Als het weer om 3 uur is ga ik pitten.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 14:04 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

KEATING ECONOMICS: John McCain & The Making of a Financial Crisis

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 09:52 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Wat is er zo erg aan die connectie
Dat was tegen de communisten in Nicaragua, lijkt me alleen maar te waarderen

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 14:02 schreef matthijst het volgende:


Mooi op je plek bij McCain en Palin

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 14:05 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:

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Ik gok er nog steeds op dat het onwetendheid is ... De strijdvlag van de confederatie heeft 'ie inmiddels ook al uit z'n avatar gehaald. Aldoende leert men ... hopelijk.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 14:53 schreef laforest het volgende:

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Mijn confederate flag is niet weg, dit zit gewoon in een andere avatar van mij, een vlag die niet voor racisme staat maar voor de trots en historie van de Zuiderlijke Staten wat nu de VS is.

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<sup>Main Entry:
ig·no·rant

1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society> ; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2: unaware , uninformed

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Main Entry:
par·ti·san

1: a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person ; especially : one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance
2 a: a member of a body of detached light troops making forays and harassing an enemy b: a member of a guerrilla band operating within enemy lines</sup>

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 15:00 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Trots en historie, waar doel je op?

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 15:58 schreef AlanSmitheeJr het volgende:
Offtopic: Ik heb een greasemonkey scriptje gemaakt om posts van en over laforest te verbergen. Om het te draaien moet je eerst Greasemonkey installeren.

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Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

(...)

"One of his earliest supporters is a man named Bill Ayers," she said. ("Boooo!" said the crowd.) "And, according to the New York Times, he was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol,' " she continued. ("Boooo!" the crowd repeated.)

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

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At one point, McCain asked, “Who is the real Barack Obama?”

A member of the crowd yelled out, “a terrorist!”

McCain paused while the audience laughed at the comment, and then continued with his attack — without condemning or admonishing the audience member.

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I received in an email the sleaziest political press release I've ever seen. It came from the Republican Party of Pennsylvania and it's headlined: "PAGOP: OBAMA - A TERRORIST'S BEST FRIEND."

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 16:56 schreef BB-boy het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 16:37 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Waarom proberen McCain en Palin rednecks voor zich te winnen? Die rednecks stemmen toch al op McCain.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 17:54 schreef Rock_de_Braziliaan het volgende:
En nog steeds vraag ik me af wie er in dat 'team of mavericks' zitten...

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 18:58 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:
Op FOX praten ze alleen nog maar over Bill Ayers. Ik hoop dat Obama deze storm doorstaat.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 19:00 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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Hij kan weer dezelfde kleine paraplu als een half jaar geleden pakken...

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 19:05 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

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Klopt maar Obama officials spreken elkaar nu tegen. Een hoge Obama official zei dat ze friendly tegen elkaar zijn, terwijl een persbericht van de Obama campaign zegt zij elkaar nauwelijks kennen.

Ik hoop in ieder geval dat het debat zich gauw weer op issues concentreert.

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Gallup Daily: 9-Point Obama Lead Ties Campaign High

Voters prefer Obama to McCain by 51% to 42%

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 19:10 schreef Caesu het volgende:

ObamaAyers

ook CNN meldt dat Obama niet helemaal eerlijk was.

maar McCain heeft zo z'n eigen problematische vriendjes.
en die heksenjager dominee Muthee van Palin is ook niet helemaal fris.

maar ik denk toch dat de meeste Amerikanen zich zorgen maken om andere zaken.

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"Now our opponent's campaign is claiming for the first time Barack Obama wasn't aware of Ayers' radical background," the Republican vice-presidential candidate told a crowd of thousands at a rally here, launching a fourth straight day of attacks on Obama over personal associations. "He didn't know he launched own political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist? What's next, claiming he didn't know that two of his biggest supporters were running Fannie Mae? ... Maybe he just thought they were just guys in his Washington neighborhood."

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 19:15 schreef ub40_bboy het volgende:

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Nou het woord terrorist maakt veel mensen wel bang hoor. En Bill Mayers was een terrorist.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 20:29 schreef Caesu het volgende:

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de zwevende kiezers houden niet van een negatieve campagne.
zullen tussen meer richting Obama gaan.

kiezers die toch al hebben besloten McCain te stemmen vinden het misschien geweldig dat McCain zo negatief gaat.
maar met hen alleen kan McCain niet winnen.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 19:14 schreef Caesu het volgende:

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[ afbeelding ]

http://www.gallup.com/pol(...)s-Campaign-High.aspx

Rasmussen 8 punten voorsprong.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 21:20 schreef pberends het volgende:
http://www.pollster.com/polls/2008president/

320 voor de Democraten, 55 voor tossup .

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

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Bijna 90% winkans .

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Tuesday, October 7, 2008 - 12:24 PM MST

Polls show McCain closing gap with Obama

Phoenix Business Journal - by Mike Sunnucks

Three new polls show Arizona Sen. John McCain closing the gap on presidential rival Barack Obama.

A CBS News poll gives Obama a 48 percent to 45 percent lead among more than 600 likely voters. Another poll by Reuters and Zogby International of 1,200 voters shows the same three-point lead for Obama. And a Diageo/Hotline Daily Tracker Poll of 900 likely voters has Obama with a 46 percent to 44 percent lead.

Previous surveys gave the Chicago Democrat leads of six points or more over McCain.

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 11:37 schreef Googolplexian het volgende:
Amerika had ACHT keer meer kernkoppen dan de toenmalige USSR. Veel daarvan waren gestationeerd in Nederland, Duitsland, Frankrijk, Turkije, Engeland, Alaska, Canada, etc. (lekker dicht bij Rusland dus). Amerika had toendertijd een constante dreiging richting de USSR zonder enig tegengas (Russische lange-afstands raketten waren er weinig of niet).

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 22:05 schreef Caesu het volgende:
er zijn ook andere polls:
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http://www.bizjournals.co(...)8/10/06/daily23.html

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"In the most obscene chapter in recent American history is the conduct of the Kosovo conflict when the president of the United States refused to prepare for ground operations, refused to have air power used effectively because he wanted them flying -- he had them flying at 15,000 feet where they killed innocent civilians because they were dropping bombs from such -- in high altitude."

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 12:41 schreef Monidique het volgende:

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http://edition.cnn.com/20(...).campaign/index.html

Sarah Palin zegt dat Obama een terroristenvriendje is, maar, en daar heeft CNN viermaal zoveel alinea's voor nodig, Obama heeft ook geen schone handen, want hij wijst op John McCains verleden met deregulatie en corruptie!

Goed dat CNN objectief blijft: McCain is gemeen, maar Obama ook!

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I saw this on CNN early this morning. John Roberts was talking about the smear campaign, trying to do the equivalency dance, and actually said (I'm paraphrasing) "Obama is trying to tie McCain to the Keating Five". Now, maybe I'm wrong, but isn't that like saying John Lennon was "tied" to the Beatles? He was a Beatle! John McCain WAS one of the Keating Five.

I'm seeing other reporters do this too.

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Before his strange murder in 1993, party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, "When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska].

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Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists

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Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you."

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Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 23:53 schreef Caesu het volgende:
gezellige vent die Vogler van de AIP:
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http://www.salon.com/opin(...)7/palins_unamerican/

Sarah Palin: Palling Around With Secessionists

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 08:41 schreef Caesu het volgende:

The McCain-Obama Post-Debate "Handshake"

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Unleashed, Palin Makes a Pit Bull Look Tame


FORT MYERS, Fla., Oct. 6 John McCain is collapsing in the polls in Florida and other swing states, but Sarah Palin, God bless her, has a solution.
"For me, the heels are on, the gloves are off," she announced at high noon Monday to a group of Republican donors at the Naples Beach Club.

You betcha.

As the donors sipped their bloody marys and mimosas, she added, in a conspiratorial stage whisper, "I'm sending the message back to John McCain also: Tomorrow night in his debate, might as well take the gloves off."

Darn right.

Of course, it's not only gloves and heels; headgear has a role, too. "Okay, so, Florida, you know that you're going to have to hang on to your hats," she said at a morning rally in Clearwater, "because from now until Election Day, it may get kind of rough."

Say it ain't so, Sarah!

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a McCain confidant, told The Post's David Broder that the campaign would "go down in history as stupid if they don't unleash" Palin. Well, the self-identified pit bull has been unleashed -- if not unhinged.

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Gedurende twee decennia zat Obama elke zondag in de kerk te luisteren naar een dominee, een zwarte fascist. Nu neemt hij afstand van hem, maar volgens Steele is dit niet genoeg. Waarom luisterde hij gedurende twee decennia met zijn hele familie naar deze man? Waarom heeft hij zich toen niet gedistantieerd van deze extremist?

Linkse terrorist
Ook is hij bevriend met een Amerikaanse linkse terrorist. Obama heeft dus een zwakte voor de extremisten. Hij trekt ook de extremistische krachten aan: in een internetfilmpje is een groep marcherende en in camouflagekleding gestoken tieners te zien die de Democratische presidentskandidaat Barack Obama toezingen.

We moeten niet vergeten dat hij niet in de race is voor het burgemeesterschap van Gouda. Obama zal president worden van de machtigste land op aarde. Ik ben noch voor noch tegen Obama. Maar Steele heeft mij aan het denken gezet.

http://www.elsevier.nl/we(...)at-is-gevaarlijk.htm

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 14:09 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Steele heeft de mening van beroepsradicaal Ellian bevestigd.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 14:17 schreef ethiraseth het volgende:

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Hoe presteert de Elsevier het toch om alleen maar waardeloze schrjivers aan te nemen die niet eens iets simpels kunnen als bronnen verifieren ?

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be a natural-born citizen of the United States;
be at least thirty-five years old;
have been a permanent resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 08:58 schreef Caesu het volgende:
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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 14:17 schreef ethiraseth het volgende:

Verder moest ik hier wel om lachen: [ afbeelding ]

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McCain acknowledged that he once modified a Beach Boys song, at Iran's expense, at a town hall meeting.

"I hate to even go into this," he said. "I was joking with an old veteran friend, who joked with me, about Iran. But the point is that I know how to handle these crises."

On several occasions, McCain said major challenges are easy to overcome, without offering details for doing so.

"I'll get Osama bin Laden," he said. "I'll get him. I know how to get him."

As for a huge social program with long-term financing problems, McCain said, "It's not that hard to fix Social Security."

Democrats and Republicans have to "sit down together across the table," he said. He did not suggest what they might say at that table.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 16:09 schreef pberends het volgende:

Wel leuk dat McCain Bill Ayers opeens achterwege laat, erg hypocriet. Het laat wel weer zien dat McCain op de achtergrond lekker onder de gordel wil spelen.

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NASHVILLE, Tenn. - John McCain and Sarah Palin plan to return to familiar criticism of Barack Obama's friends and supporters, just hours after a presidential debate that steered clear of the subject.

The Republican candidates planned joint appearances in key states of Pennsylvania and Ohio on Wednesday. Ahead of their appearances, the GOP ticket has released an ad that criticizes the Illinois senator as simply not presidential.

During Tuesday's debate, McCain did not criticize his rival's connection to 1960s-era radical William Ayers. The two are not close, but Palin has repeatedly faulted Obama for serving on nonprofit groups' boards with a man whose Weather Underground group bombed the U.S. Capitol and Pentagon.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 16:09 schreef pberends het volgende:
Zo, hele debat gezien. Overal gezien een redelijk gelijkspel, maar toch kwam Obama veel beter over dan opa McCain. Wederom zal er niet snel een omkeer komen in de peilingen voor McCain.

Wel leuk dat McCain Bill Ayers opeens achterwege laat, erg hypocriet. Het laat wel weer zien dat McCain op de achtergrond lekker onder de gordel wil spelen.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 17:06 schreef Perico het volgende:Wel bedenkelijk dat ze op CNN nu al waren aan het bekokstoven, dat mocht Obama nog verliezen, dat het dan puur door racisme kwam, dat wel tot 6 procenten in de plus nu teniet kon doen, op de verkiezingsdag....

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 17:50 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Ehhhhhhhh, heb ik iets gemist? Ik heb toch echt het hele debat gezien.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 17:50 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Ehhhhhhhh, heb ik iets gemist? Ik heb toch echt het hele debat gezien.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 17:49 schreef Elwood1802 het volgende:
Overigens kan het voor obamaatje nog een groot probleem worden dat ie black is. Was laatst een peiling en 10% van zijn kiezers gaf aan te twijfelen omdat hij zwart is. 5% gaf aan nooit op hem te stellen omdat hij zwart is.

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TAMPA, Fla. - Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says Republican John McCain isn't a maverick, but President Bush's sidekick.

Barack Obama's running mate ridiculed McCain during an appearance at the University of South Florida on Wednesday.

He said McCain is "an angry man, lurching from one position to another" and making ugly attacks against Obama instead of offering solutions to a troubled country.

The Delaware senator said McCain is trying to distract voters from his support for President Bush's policies. He repeated Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey's line, "You can't call yourself a maverick when all you've ever been is a sidekick."

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 17:11 schreef laforest het volgende:
CNN is het FOX news van de Democraten. Totaal geen neutrale berichtgeving.
CNN is geen haar beter dan FOX.
Als je voor Obama bent vind je FOX walgelijk en CNN te gek. Ben je voor McCain dan stem je liever op Fox af, iets wat ik zelf ook liever doe.


Palin Weighs in on Debate
by Fin Gomez

Shush Walshe, FOX Producer covering the Palin trail, reports that Gov. Palin campaigning in North Carolina, told reporters weighed in on the debate tonight:


“Great. Great. It was a great night for America. He’s proposing real plans that will work for economic recovery and energy independence. I think Barack was even less candid than usual, which I was kinda surprised. But McCain has fought on and sounded very energized, and and it was a good night for him, for all of us, for all of America. It’s gonna be a great 28 days to go. Taking this message of reform on the road and just having it resonate more and more every day is what I believe’s happening. And it’s good. It’s very good. I look forward to the 28 days.

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Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 17:50 schreef pberends het volgende:

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Ehhhhhhhh, heb ik iets gemist? Ik heb toch echt het hele debat gezien.

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Yeah the my friends thing was infuriating. He began to look like a bizarre CGI half human half lizard, circling around like a maniac wandering around the stage. The whole thing was honestly baffling to me.

I was surprised at how unhinged and bad he appeared

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This lost him the debate, and by extension probably cost him the election:

"That one"
"Not you!" (to Brokaw on who'd be Treasury Secretary)
"My Hero is Teddy Roosevelt"
"I need a hair transplant"
"Hand on the tiller"
"It's like the days of Hoover" (only you were around back then, dipshit)

Then pointing to his wife when Obama wanted to shake his hand, and leaving the hall immediately after it was over. Not to mention the folks at RedState who are jumping off the ship like sewer rats off the titanic, which ironically is something their candidate probably remembers.

Game. Match.

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McCain is in a tough spot. He does not have a "presidential demeanor" and now, as he strains to define and differentiate himself, he looks and sounds desperate

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The question in the first debate was "is Obama ready", and the answer then was "yes, and so is McCain". Now it's "what a silly question!" Obama didn't necessarily win on content, but his style was so reassuring that he locked down the people already leaning his way, and gained a few more.

Meanwhile, McCain looked grumpy and annoying. That's about as important as "who do you want to have a beer with", but it will cost McCain some votes. McCain spent half his ammunition and only wounded himself. This election's over.

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I think someone should make a tshirt with the words, "I'm voting for "that One"!"