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http://www.hollowaycase.com/
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/index.
http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/
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http://www.scrux.com/discuss/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=e95f656b31ffffc0a851af086a4c54f4
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Shango's raadsel
http://www.hollowaycase.com/
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/index.
http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/
http://www.riehlworldview(...)_holloway/index.html
http://www.scrux.com/discuss/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=e95f656b31ffffc0a851af086a4c54f4
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Natalie Holloway And the Joran Confession
By Rachael Rizzo
Rachael Rizzo has been an actress since the age of nine. Since forever she has been writing about what the things she loves mean to ...
I guess my topic today is a little different from all my other topics, but it is something I feel I would like to talk about. I don't watch TV all that often, but last night my stepdad turned on the TV at about 9:00 to watch the 20/20 special. It was on the Natalie Halloway case and how that kid Joran got caught giving specific details about her death. I don't know if anyone saw it, but it was pretty intense.
This one guy went undercover and befriended Joran. He went to a special investigator and offered his services in getting a confession from Joran. There are a couple things I want to go into about those tapes. One, how did someone get that cold blooded and stupid at the same time? He didn't even know if she was dead or not. He had someone dispose of her body for him. He even referred to her as "b...h" and "whore" at times. He said that he wanted to be alone with her so he could just "f...k" her. I honestly don't know how certain people get like this. You can't blame it all on parents anymore. Kids have ways of getting these things into their heads. I mean, he is obviously psychologically damaged somewhere in his brain. That aside, sometimes I would just like to see where this kid started to go wrong. I guess we will never know (unless we are with the higher powers above).
Another thing is that guy who got the confession from him. He was quite the character. I just wonder what his whole motive was in the thing. I can't imagine someone just going up to a suspect and just deciding at that moment that they are going to get a confession from this guy. There has to be something behind that too. Although I believe he is sincere in wanting to catch the guy, I think there was a motive too. I guess it really doesn't matter, because he served his purpose. We can be grateful for that.
I really thought the interview with Natalie's mother was very good. She says she doesn't want revenge, but that his punishment will be in a living hell for the rest of his life. There is something to that. Every bad choice or good choice you make can turn you towards any path. Although we have to come to the conclusion that he is cold blooded then maybe he won't care how everyone looks at him (as long as he is free). It may be sad but true.
Sometimes I wonder how her friends must feel (the ones there with her). I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for letting her get in a car drunk with three guys. It is in no way their fault, but I just got to thinking how guilty I would feel. I hope her family and friends find peace. They deserve it.
Hopefully, something will come of these tapes and justice will be served......if not by a judge then by the higher powers above.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 11-12-2008 00:42:04 ]
By Rachael Rizzo
Rachael Rizzo has been an actress since the age of nine. Since forever she has been writing about what the things she loves mean to ...
I guess my topic today is a little different from all my other topics, but it is something I feel I would like to talk about. I don't watch TV all that often, but last night my stepdad turned on the TV at about 9:00 to watch the 20/20 special. It was on the Natalie Halloway case and how that kid Joran got caught giving specific details about her death. I don't know if anyone saw it, but it was pretty intense.
This one guy went undercover and befriended Joran. He went to a special investigator and offered his services in getting a confession from Joran. There are a couple things I want to go into about those tapes. One, how did someone get that cold blooded and stupid at the same time? He didn't even know if she was dead or not. He had someone dispose of her body for him. He even referred to her as "b...h" and "whore" at times. He said that he wanted to be alone with her so he could just "f...k" her. I honestly don't know how certain people get like this. You can't blame it all on parents anymore. Kids have ways of getting these things into their heads. I mean, he is obviously psychologically damaged somewhere in his brain. That aside, sometimes I would just like to see where this kid started to go wrong. I guess we will never know (unless we are with the higher powers above).
Another thing is that guy who got the confession from him. He was quite the character. I just wonder what his whole motive was in the thing. I can't imagine someone just going up to a suspect and just deciding at that moment that they are going to get a confession from this guy. There has to be something behind that too. Although I believe he is sincere in wanting to catch the guy, I think there was a motive too. I guess it really doesn't matter, because he served his purpose. We can be grateful for that.
I really thought the interview with Natalie's mother was very good. She says she doesn't want revenge, but that his punishment will be in a living hell for the rest of his life. There is something to that. Every bad choice or good choice you make can turn you towards any path. Although we have to come to the conclusion that he is cold blooded then maybe he won't care how everyone looks at him (as long as he is free). It may be sad but true.
Sometimes I wonder how her friends must feel (the ones there with her). I know I would feel guilty for the rest of my life for letting her get in a car drunk with three guys. It is in no way their fault, but I just got to thinking how guilty I would feel. I hope her family and friends find peace. They deserve it.
Hopefully, something will come of these tapes and justice will be served......if not by a judge then by the higher powers above.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 11-12-2008 00:42:04 ]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Holloway would not get into a car with strangers
Alabama Teen Natalee Holloway Missing in Aruba
James Joyner | Thursday, June 2, 2005
Natalee Holloway disappeared on the last night of a trip to Aruba to celebrate her graduation from high school. Four days later, the Alabama teenager is still missing, despite an extensive search of the Dutch Caribbean island. “Honestly, at the beginning, we were hopeful the girl would come back,” said police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten. “Today, we are more and more thinking about the possibility of a crime.”
On the island remarkable for its absence of violent crime, hundreds of residents and tourists posted fliers to help the hunt. FBI agents helped the Dutch military and Aruba police scour outlying scrubland with helicopters and all-terrain vehicles but found no trace of the 18-year-old. Aruba radio and television stations broadcast a reward offer from Holloway’s family, though they did not specify an amount. The family promised to reward anyone who brings her safely to a police station or hospital. “Everybody has been quite supportive,” the teenager’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, told The Associated Press. “I am not leaving. I am going to have Natalee with me.”
Holloway came to Aruba for a five-day excursion with 124 seniors and 40 chaperons from Mountain Brook High School, near Birmingham, Ala. She was last seen around 2 a.m. Monday, Attorney General Caren Janssen said Thursday. Police discount the possibility she left the island, because they found her passport in her hotel room, van der Straaten said.
Hopes were lifted briefly just before midnight Thursday when a news photographer said he had seen Holloway on the west side of the island. Police rushed to the scene but found an island girl who fit the description but had brown hair, not Holloway’s long blond tresses.
Dressed in the same blue-and-green striped, low-cut blouse and denim miniskirt that she wore at the beach earlier in the day, Holloway spent Sunday evening partying at Carlos ‘N Charlie’s, a popular restaurant and dance spot where tourists and locals meet in the capital, Oranjestad. She left 10 minutes before closing at 1 a.m., said the restaurant’s master of ceremonies Jose Hernandez, 38. “Nothing was out of the ordinary.” Friends saw her getting into a vehicle outside the nightclub. She did not show up to catch her flight Monday. Her stepmother, Robin Holloway, said Natalee was last seen with a local resident who claimed to be a foreign exchange student.
Police questioned and released three Aruban students who said they dropped Holloway off early Monday at the Holiday Inn where she had been staying, about three miles from Oranjestad, said police assistant inspector Jules Sambo. “We don’t have any indication as to if she is alive,” Sambo said. “The whole population is aware that she is missing. The police are doing everything to find her.”
Several family members arrived the day after she disappeared. Her mother and her father, David Holloway of Meridian, Miss., went on television Thursday night to appeal to residents for information. “Natalee is a well-traveled teenager. She has traveled to Europe, Canada,” family spokeswoman Marcia Twitty told ABC’s “Good Morning America.” She added that Holloway would not get into a car with strangers. “This is totally, totally out of character for Natalee,” she said.
The island of 72,000 off the coast of Venezuela has a reputation of being all but free of crime for tourists. There was one murder and six rapes last year and two murders and three rapes this year. But all the rapes were committed by local men against local women. The two murders involved drug addicts who died in knife fights.
Bizarre. One hopes she’s safe but that does not seem likely at this point.
About the Author: James Joyner is the publisher of Outside the Beltway and the managing editor of the Atlantic Council. He's a former Army officer, Desert Storm vet, and college professor with a PhD in political science from The University of Alabama.
He lives just outside the Beltway in Alexandria, Virginia.
Alabama Teen Natalee Holloway Missing in Aruba
James Joyner | Thursday, June 2, 2005
Natalee Holloway disappeared on the last night of a trip to Aruba to celebrate her graduation from high school. Four days later, the Alabama teenager is still missing, despite an extensive search of the Dutch Caribbean island. “Honestly, at the beginning, we were hopeful the girl would come back,” said police Superintendent Jan van der Straaten. “Today, we are more and more thinking about the possibility of a crime.”
On the island remarkable for its absence of violent crime, hundreds of residents and tourists posted fliers to help the hunt. FBI agents helped the Dutch military and Aruba police scour outlying scrubland with helicopters and all-terrain vehicles but found no trace of the 18-year-old. Aruba radio and television stations broadcast a reward offer from Holloway’s family, though they did not specify an amount. The family promised to reward anyone who brings her safely to a police station or hospital. “Everybody has been quite supportive,” the teenager’s mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, told The Associated Press. “I am not leaving. I am going to have Natalee with me.”
Holloway came to Aruba for a five-day excursion with 124 seniors and 40 chaperons from Mountain Brook High School, near Birmingham, Ala. She was last seen around 2 a.m. Monday, Attorney General Caren Janssen said Thursday. Police discount the possibility she left the island, because they found her passport in her hotel room, van der Straaten said.
Hopes were lifted briefly just before midnight Thursday when a news photographer said he had seen Holloway on the west side of the island. Police rushed to the scene but found an island girl who fit the description but had brown hair, not Holloway’s long blond tresses.
Dressed in the same blue-and-green striped, low-cut blouse and denim miniskirt that she wore at the beach earlier in the day, Holloway spent Sunday evening partying at Carlos ‘N Charlie’s, a popular restaurant and dance spot where tourists and locals meet in the capital, Oranjestad. She left 10 minutes before closing at 1 a.m., said the restaurant’s master of ceremonies Jose Hernandez, 38. “Nothing was out of the ordinary.” Friends saw her getting into a vehicle outside the nightclub. She did not show up to catch her flight Monday. Her stepmother, Robin Holloway, said Natalee was last seen with a local resident who claimed to be a foreign exchange student.
Police questioned and released three Aruban students who said they dropped Holloway off early Monday at the Holiday Inn where she had been staying, about three miles from Oranjestad, said police assistant inspector Jules Sambo. “We don’t have any indication as to if she is alive,” Sambo said. “The whole population is aware that she is missing. The police are doing everything to find her.”
Several family members arrived the day after she disappeared. Her mother and her father, David Holloway of Meridian, Miss., went on television Thursday night to appeal to residents for information. “Natalee is a well-traveled teenager. She has traveled to Europe, Canada,” family spokeswoman Marcia Twitty told ABC’s “Good Morning America.” She added that Holloway would not get into a car with strangers. “This is totally, totally out of character for Natalee,” she said.
The island of 72,000 off the coast of Venezuela has a reputation of being all but free of crime for tourists. There was one murder and six rapes last year and two murders and three rapes this year. But all the rapes were committed by local men against local women. The two murders involved drug addicts who died in knife fights.
Bizarre. One hopes she’s safe but that does not seem likely at this point.
About the Author: James Joyner is the publisher of Outside the Beltway and the managing editor of the Atlantic Council. He's a former Army officer, Desert Storm vet, and college professor with a PhD in political science from The University of Alabama.
He lives just outside the Beltway in Alexandria, Virginia.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Ah... even een vraagje.
Is die documentaire al ergens te vinden waar de moeder van Natalee als verdachte wordt gezien?
Is die documentaire al ergens te vinden waar de moeder van Natalee als verdachte wordt gezien?
"In case of dissension, never dare to judge till you've heard the other side."
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Ik denk niet dat iemand dat gedrag voor hem heeft verzonnen. Ik heb sterk de indruk dat Joran niet helemaal spoort. Of dat nu een aangeboren afwijking is of dat het te maken heeft met de druk die hij heeft ondervonden met deze zaak, weet ik niet,. Maar het zou m.i. niet verkeerd zijn als hij eens goed onderzocht zou worden.
Ik denk niet dat iemand dat gedrag voor hem heeft verzonnen. Ik heb sterk de indruk dat Joran niet helemaal spoort. Of dat nu een aangeboren afwijking is of dat het te maken heeft met de druk die hij heeft ondervonden met deze zaak, weet ik niet,. Maar het zou m.i. niet verkeerd zijn als hij eens goed onderzocht zou worden.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Staat ergens op you tube moet je ff zoekenquote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:04 schreef Karammel het volgende:
Ah... even een vraagje.
Is die documentaire al ergens te vinden waar de moeder van Natalee als verdachte wordt gezien?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Buster zou hier nog antwoord op geven :
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Op woensdag 10 december 2008 22:51 schreef JoBuster het volgende:
Ja, ja, probeer jij maar weer te ontkennen dat die Jug Twitty Natalee heeft verkracht en zwanger heeft gemaakt, die skank Beth heeft toen natuurlijk getracht eea te verhullen door een illegale abortus en daar is Natalee aan gestorven.
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Op woensdag 10 december 2008 22:51 schreef JoBuster het volgende:
Ja, ja, probeer jij maar weer te ontkennen dat die Jug Twitty Natalee heeft verkracht en zwanger heeft gemaakt, die skank Beth heeft toen natuurlijk getracht eea te verhullen door een illegale abortus en daar is Natalee aan gestorven.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Voor iemand die zo graag schrijft mag ze best de naam van het slachtoffer even goed spellen.quote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:01 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Natalie Halloway And the Joran Confession
By Rachael Rizzo
Rachael Rizzo has been an actress since the age of nine. Since forever she has been writing about what the things she loves mean to ...
...It was on the Natalie Halloway case
"Ik twijfel aan alles, en zelfs daar twijfel ik aan"
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
En dat zegt iemand die over de vermeende strafbaarheid van bepaalde feiten praat.quote:Op woensdag 10 december 2008 23:06 schreef bastibro het volgende:
Gielen moet een paar liter amoniak drinken!
(bericht 3% gewijzigd)
Triest.
"Ik twijfel aan alles, en zelfs daar twijfel ik aan"
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Hoezo johan;quote:Op woensdag 10 december 2008 23:11 schreef johan555 het volgende:
IK snap niet dat je dit soort beweringen durft te doen zonder enig bewijs buster .
I think that Jug Twitty and his boys raped Natalee Holloway and that Beth knew about it, that is why she ran away from "Hitler's sister" aka Mom, her stepdad and the abusive Twitty boys.
Zie je johan, beweren zonder enig bewijs is errug makkelijk zoals jij al 25 toppiks bewijst.
I stand with the happy Island.
Buster komt hier alleen om wat te klieren en mensen aan te vallen
Heb je daar zo'n lol in ?
Heb je daar zo'n lol in ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Nee hoor johan, het was niet meer dan een kleine demonstratie hoe jij hier normaliter opereert.quote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:20 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Buster komt hier alleen om wat te klieren en mensen aan te vallen
Heb je daar zo'n lol in ?
Een paar uur geleden beweer jij de meest grote onzin mbt een rijksrecherche onderzoek op Aruba en als iemand om bewijzen vraagt geef je niet thuis jochie
So, you get here a cookie from your own dough
I stand with the happy Island.
[quote]Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:23 schreef bastibro het volgende:
En daar gaat de schoft!
ha ha dat is een goeie Bastibro
Zou Paul ook "on the run" gaan net zoals Joran ?
En daar gaat de schoft!
ha ha dat is een goeie Bastibro
Zou Paul ook "on the run" gaan net zoals Joran ?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Ik snap niet dat ze vd Straten ooit aangesteld hebben op Aruba .
Op zo'n geweldadig eiland
Hij was politie chef in Huizen, wat toen nog een boerendorpje was met 12 000 inwoners .
Op zo'n geweldadig eiland
Hij was politie chef in Huizen, wat toen nog een boerendorpje was met 12 000 inwoners .
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Beter goed gejat (van klaasaapie) dan slecht zelf bedacht, n'est ce pas Bassiequote:
I stand with the happy Island.
JoBuster, kom je hier alleen om te klieren en irriteren???
http://www.xs4all.nl/~dug(...)Holloway/page04a.htm
http://pc-en-internet.inf(...)olls-en-flamers.html
JoBuster ben jij een trolletje jongen???
Ik heb eindelijk eens ontdekt wat een troll nou is:quote:Op donderdag 4 december 2008 23:45 schreef bolsena het volgende:
Weet je dat ik écht nog geen flauw idee heb wat een Troll nou precies is?
Jullie hebben het er al vaak over gehad, maar ik weet echt niet wat jullie daar mee bedoelen.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~dug(...)Holloway/page04a.htm
http://pc-en-internet.inf(...)olls-en-flamers.html
JoBuster ben jij een trolletje jongen???
"Ik twijfel aan alles, en zelfs daar twijfel ik aan"
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
kan je OT blijven bolsena !
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Na de laatste uitlatingen van Rudy schijnt het Arubaanse volk zacht gezegt `niet blij` te zijn.quote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:28 schreef johan555 het volgende:
[quote]Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:23 schreef bastibro het volgende:
En daar gaat de schoft!
[ afbeelding ]
ha ha dat is een goeie Bastibro
Zou Paul ook "on the run" gaan net zoals Joran ?
Ben benieuwd hoe ze nu tov Paulass&Son staan
Dus ja, dat kan wel een rennen worden voor Paulass
Durven ze nog wel over straat ?quote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:38 schreef bastibro het volgende:
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Na de laatste uitlatingen van Rudy schijnt het Arubaanse volk zacht gezegt `niet blij` te zijn.
Ben benieuwd hoe ze nu tov Paulass&Son staan
Dus ja, dat kan wel een rennen worden voor Paulass
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Ja hoor, Paul gaat nog gewoon elke dag naar zijn werk en wordt ook regelmatig op het parket in Aruba gesignaleerd; business as usual.
oh ja, als jullie de leeftijd van Julia nog willen posten op SM, ze is 30 augustus jl. 43 geworden!
oh ja, als jullie de leeftijd van Julia nog willen posten op SM, ze is 30 augustus jl. 43 geworden!
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Voor types als johan is iedereen die het niet met hem eens is een trolletje bolsenaquote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:37 schreef bolsena het volgende:
JoBuster ben jij een trolletje jongen???
Dus als dat het criterium is, then I am guilty as charged.
One only fills up the well, after the calf has drowned.
I stand with the happy Island.
Dat kan ik best maar daar heb ik niet altijd zin in.quote:
OT, is dat trouwens het posten van totaal zinloze krantenartikeltjes over drugsgebruik en het ontbreken van gevangenissen in Aruba?
"Ik twijfel aan alles, en zelfs daar twijfel ik aan"
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Plato: "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something."
Oh jullie zijn de lurkers op sm ha ha
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Ik zei het al eens in het Nederlands:quote:Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:28 schreef johan555 het volgende:
[quote]Op donderdag 11 december 2008 00:23 schreef bastibro het volgende:
En daar gaat de schoft!
[ afbeelding ]
ha ha dat is een goeie Bastibro
Zou Paul ook "on the run" gaan net zoals Joran ?
'Don't sell the skin, before the bear has been shot'
