Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) #4

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:51 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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I never heard she had a relationship at the time NH dissapeared! They had a relationship last year,but Beth says they are just friends now.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:49 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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Hi,
I never said it had to do with this case,although it is possible but I have no idea. They asked me more about it,so I told them part of what I know. I think theres a good chance they were both murdered after speaking to her family and hearing and seeing what happened,BTW that lady is dutch! I am assuming you read what I posted yesterday at SM? I don't know what the one hand in the pocket means,I would be guessing since they posted in the front page of the newspaper for everyone to see,Maybe a warning? What did you think about it?

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:29 schreef Ticker het volgende:

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Don't get confused, those statements are wrongly quoted and defenitely not in that order.
Check the PDF here to see what really was said:
http://judicial-inc.biz/arubaTranscript3.pdf

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:56 schreef Nielsch het volgende:
When reading those police transcripts I get the feeling that especially Deepak (and possibly Satish) knows more about this case than we expect. They also give me the feeling that Joran made up everything we saw on the De Vries tapes.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:59 schreef Nielsch het volgende:
And who is Freddie?

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:59 schreef Nielsch het volgende:
And who is Freddie?

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ARAMBATZIS, Freddy Alexander Zedan – age 21, AKA Freddy Arambatzis-Zedan. Best friend of and neighbor of JVDS and reported guest at the VDS house the night of Natalee’s disappearance. Arrested 8-26-06 under suspicion of intentionally distributing and showing sexual images of a minor, intercourse with someone he knows is unconscious, and sexual acts with a girl younger than 16 years. (a.k.a. Locoman Pimp,” a.k.a. “badboy_956,” a.k.a. “Freddy Zedan” nickname “Fefi”). Listed as a character witness for Joran in NY civil trial filing by Tacopina. Freddy has worked at Champions Bar at the Marriott Hotel. According to several declarations, Joran told Freddy the truth of the evening and the story told to police on 5-31-05. Joran met Freddy when Freddy was 19 during a tournament at the Racquetball Club, according to Joran’s book.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 05:34 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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I think we are talking on different levels here.

Sure, I believe in rule by law. When its not a rigged game that is..

Personally, I find a sense of justice in hearing that Joran is in hiding eversince the broadcast.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 11:07 schreef observer777 het volgende:
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On May 29th 2005, at approximately 16.00 hours, I went with Joran to the “Free Carribean Stud Tournament” in the Holiday Inn. During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home. My youngest son Sebastian, who was playing at a friends house, was due to be dropped off at home around that time. Joran, with my permission, took over my seat because he had been eliminated earlier. We had agreed that he would call me after the tournament, in order for me to come and pick him up. He did indeed call me and at approximately 23.00 hour I picked him up near the McDonalds on Palm Beach with my red Suzuki. We drove home and I went to bed. I presumed he also had gone to bed. Afterwards we found out that he had gone out to Carlos & Charlies without my permission.

On May 30th 2005, in the nightly hours, I did not pick up Joran from anywhere. I slept solidly through the night without waking up.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 11:10 schreef Surveillance-Fiets het volgende:
Natalee Holloway topic for our English speaking users

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 11:19 schreef Ticker het volgende:

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Not smart to suddenly move over to a different chain of topics.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 11:39 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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You are positive thats him at the table huh? I am not positive but I think its him! You realize he said he went home two hours earlier right? Joran at that time in his statements says he was still in the tourney. He also said Joran took his place in that tournament and said he won money and placed 4th? Well that never happened!! Joran lost his seat and his dads! It's very important in the timeline,because PVDS says he went to the bank twice the next day to deposit Joran's winnings. We have a lot of unnacounted time. Also Joran was 17 and it was illegal to be gambling and it is illegal to takes someones place in a tourney,well at least all the casino's I have been to and heard about.

You have to understand that Jan VDS and Dennis Jacobs were really dirty,statements were changed,destroyed or witnesses never gave statements. PVDS himself was allowed to change his son's statements and they had the case files what others were saying. We heard how mad Rudy Croes was that PVDS was caught in wiretaps,probably with JAN VDS,we know in Joran's book they talked frequently on the phone,no denying they were close friends. Plus that PV I dont think is the full Interrogation but just a part of it. It sure pays to have a best friend as a police commissioner,friends in the ALE,know all the prosecuters and even the judges and Govt officials.

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In that interview where Paulus corrects himself about the phone calls after the official end of the interview, he and the guy for Dutch TV were talking about Joran having called Paulus allegedly at 11 and that is the big deal to have Paulus on record denying having told Beth and the others it was not 11 but 4 when he picked "them" up at McDonald's

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 11:45 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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No there wasnt! When they arrived in Aruba from Holland the cop in charge of her case called in sick everyday! They went home with nothing,except a old poem. When I researched this all,I saw what a reporter in Aruba was saying about her and they were all stinking lies. What can they do about it? I gave them Peter R'S Email,But I think they should wait a while until he is not so busy. Also they need to research more. I wouldn't be as suspicious if the same thing didn't happen to her camera man two weeks later with one hand in his pocket.