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http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1190 1: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
A dishonest, corrupt Dutch official on the island has a lot to lose if the depths of the seedy Aruban night life are discovered.
2: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
Simian,
older PVDS had one or two cards up his sleeve. They have been played, and lost. Will one of the cards sing?
Shango
Perhaps someone will crack. Keep pressure on the three held so far to implicate the real suspects.
3: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:14 pm
The P.M. does not want any impartial, honest investigators involved in this because of the cover-up, not American or from the Netherlands. It seems tha tthere have been political pressures between Aruba and the Hague for awhile now the Hague wants the drug and rave scene cleaned up, but the Arubans distrust intrusion, and stand a lot to lose it seems. Ref.
http://www2.rnw.nl/rnw/en/currentaffairs/region/southamerica /ant040113.html?view=
4: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm
Simian
Why didn t the Dutch officials use the initial FBI agents more? If they had, this would be closer to being solved!
5: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
Simian,
The P.M. did not grant the powers or assign the tasks the Americans (FBI) expected, and he never intended to. The truth is hidden.
6: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:30 pm
Simian,
The P.M. did not let the Aruban investigators do what they needed as well (the delay in arrests perhaps)? The search can only be completed by Americans and the Holloways, but they were stymied by misinformation and false leads planted by the corrupt authorities. Why was Natalee never found? The searchers were directed to all the wrong places!
7: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm
Simian
Any evidence found in the suspects vehicles after it was washed later that night will not stand up in court. Only determined Americans can finally solve this mystery. Will the truth ever be known?
8: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:37 pm
The Arubans should pressure the Netherlands for more outside help.
The Americans have been looking far from where Natalee is, and she is hidden from them.
The volunteers can t rely on the American searchers now (they have been misled)
The Arubans need to question DJ Croes again. He was released way too soon.
9: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:40 pm
The Aruban officials knew the Dutch officials on the island would deliberately botch the investigation and wouldn t do any good.
The Americans and the volunteers looked in all the wrong places.
10: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:43 pm
Paulus Van Der Sloot waived his right to not testify against Joren because he is untouchable either way
He needs to tell all he knows or Joren will get fingered for the crime, maybe convicted (to keep the real killers and the web of corruption secret)
11: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:45 pm
Shango suggesting his possible involvement with officials. Again, I bet Shango is an insider to the case
12: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:49 pm
If Paulus does not come forward honestly, Joren is going down. Silence will not help his son.
The Arubans do not want Americans to think Aruba is a bad place, but the evidence of truth is not to be found. Someone among the Arubans knows what happened as well, but he or she won t step forward.
The Arubans both want the truth to be known, but it would be disaster for the island, especially from the U.S. (I'm not of the same opinion on Paulus he covers his own ass and Jorans. His son is guilty of kidnapping at the least.)
13: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
If this case is too soon forgotten or unchallenged, all of this will blow over. Holloways will be satisfied, the truth will be lost, things (both with tourism and with the corruption) will continue as usual.
14: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:12 pm
The Americans must do as the Arubans instruct. It has been slow (in tourism?) for a month; the island needs money. The native s source will stay hidden; the scapegoats will keep everyone s attention just fine. All three must be implicated if the P.M. s dirty little secrets are to stay hidden. The truth is probably lost and the second search will be similar to the first, with misinformation and misunderstandings and nothing to show.(I disagree with all 3 being implicated to cover dirtyhands - I see them having to release them as per Shangos following posts - Ringo)
15: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:14 pm
At one point someone claiming to be Simian was posting as well, but Shango somehow knew which was the real Simian.
16: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:16 pm
The Arubanss bugged the conversations between Joren and the Kalpoes; they know the boys are actually innocent of Natalee s Murder but are guilty of other things. They also can make sure they are the first to know if one or more thinks about coming clean
17: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:22 pm
Paulus is off the hook now, and he will go on to be judge in Netherlands despite his role in this.
Anything he says could hurt the American role in the investigation; he has contacts
18: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:26 pm
It is hard to navigate the web of Dutch corruption, but the Aruban s inside source would destroy the island s reputation. A lot of casinos would close because the tourism from the U.S. would stop for a very long time. Somebody must take the fall, because the powers that be and concerned Americans want a quick resolution
19: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:29 pm
The Kalpoes and Joren will be charged to keep the cover-up going.
Otherwise the tourism will be hurt for a long time. Light the fires? (Again Light the fires as in send a message or warning)
20: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:33 pm
The Arubans do not like interference from the Netherlands (like the Dutch marines). Everyone knows there are lies upon lies. The economy will be ruined and there will be tension between Aruba and the Netherlands. Light the fires!
21: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:37 pm
Apparently, the Arawak are the island s native tribe that migrated from the mainland. Hence this name for the Arubans.
22: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
The Aruban officials have control over Joren and the Kalpoes. They can t let Joren tell the truth because it will ruin everything for them. Bad for the economy.
The Americans will buy that the boys are the murderers. The truth is not known, but everyone is content except for unrest in the upper offices of Aruban government. Any fallout from this will be the fault of the Dutch for not stepping in!
23: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:50 pm
If Joren squeals, everyone will watch the results worldwide.
Police Chief Van Der Straaten must not be investigated to keep things covered up. Light the fires!
24: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:53 pm
If Joren squeals, it will hurt the island immensely. If the Americans stay investigating after the trial, the truth will come out (possibly from Van Der Straaten himself somehow), even though damage will be done to Aruba.
25: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:55 pm
If the Americans find out about whatever Van Der Straaten was involved in, the powers that be on the island will fall, and the Dutch reputation will be tarnished. The Americans must be appeased so they accept the lack of real evidence (Natalee s body)
26: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 4:58 pm
The Dutch system will have to change to accommodate the American s persistence in investigating the underworld of the island. Better this than the whole thing be exposed. Many mysterious people in that underworld. There must be a trial (of Joren and the Kalpoes)
27: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:02 pm
Do not listen to the news media (does this refer to Fox News and Greta)?
The boys will be tried for this. The Americans (in general, probably not Beth Twitty!) will be happy.
The Dutch system will be intact and no damage will be done to the powers that be on Aruba.
The Americans will leave as soon as a trial is concluded. But there will be indications that something is wrong .
8: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:04 pm
Prepare the fires.
We need a sacrifice
A babylonian beast. Young Lamb der Sloot
This is pretty self-explanatory. Usually Shango isn t this straightforward though.
29: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:13 pm
The typical Aruban is is perfectly willing to let this pan out, or else is afraid to come forth(remember, these lions are powerful local officials and drug dealers from the mainland. They are VERY dangerous people) The European Dutch don t really care one way or another. The Americans demand justice!
30: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
Joren knew it was dangerous to deal with certain people on the island; who knows his fate now? Rules have changed, and so has the rave scene (to cover things up)? The truth is lost for Natalee s family; they re kept too close to things, controlled and helpless. Witnesses will not be reliable now. Somebody will have to be tried to spare the embarrassment and those involved in the corruption. The natives don t like Van Der Straaten. The P.M. will remove van Der Straaten soon, but a trial is needed.
31: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:30 pm
A trial will keep the Aruban way of life safe and make the Americans happy. There is a real danger here to the powers that be. The Van Der Sloots do not want Joren to take the fall. They don t care about the island s welfare, but they are afraid of U.S. investigators.
32: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:32 pm
A trial will certainly make the Americans happy as well as the drug lords. But Dutch integrity is shaken regardless, even if van Der Straaten s role is not revealed.
33: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
There are bad people in every society; even the Americans have self-serving individuals (the media)? If the corruption is revealed, everyone will see it! The natives fear American reaction if corruption is revealed, and so do the Dutch powers on Aruba. If the status quo is to be preserved, it must make the Dutch officials and Aruba look innocent until things die down. The possibility of Van Der Straaten being exposed scares the Arubans too. But bringing the boys to trial will be enough to keep the Americans happy even without any real evidence.
4: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:43 pm
Talking with the powers that be (maybe including Paulus) will not answer any questions or doubts (we re only revealing mysteries, not their answers). The boys must know now that they re going down as scapegoats.
35: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:48 pm
Keep theories simple, even though it is hard.
36: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:50 pm
How long the boys will languish in trial or jail depends on how quickly the Americans lose interest and go home. At this point I think cowboys is specifically referring to Beth and Jug Twitty as often as not.
37: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:54 pm
The Arubans won t let Joren be tried if they think he s innocent. Everyone is scared of Van Der Straaten, so a token trial is needed. That way everyone is happy and kept in the dark. I m wondering if Dirty Hand means Van Der Straaten, or the corruption in general.
38: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 5:58 pm
The natives want the Americans satisfied, and the Dutch want their integrity maintained. Some Americans (maybe FBI or similar) know something about the corruption, and they will be the key to uncovering this mess. Van Der Straaten will leave his post and his power and influence but with his misdeeds kept secret because of the fake trial.
39: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:00 pm
The Arubans and Dutch often come to odds, but the Arubans don t want the U.S. to know about any instability for obvious reasons. Again, see above article.
40: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:02 pm
The Dutch have allowed the corruption to get to this point. The Arubans are worried about their livelihood from the Americans; they do not like dealing with the corrupt Dutch officials / Van Der Straaten! He will slink away whenever he gets a chance.
41: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:04 pm
But there will be many more people at the feast, and the cowboys would resent the Arawaks for Babylons interference.
Even if Van Der Straaten is exposed, the boys will be in big trouble for their part. But the Americans will be pissed at the Arubans if they let the corrupt Dutch take control of the situation.
42: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:13 pm
The P.M. will not ever allow the U.S. full participation, and the truth stays hidden. The Aruban officials hold the boys (Joren and the Kalpoes). Van Der Straaten can destroy the Arubans and the corrupt Dutch officials.
43: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:19 pm
There have been such corrupt individuals for as long as the Dutch have had Aruba
44: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:28 pm
The stage is set as of today: the corruption is well-known on the island at least, there will be charges and trial against the boys, speculation escalates, the media is ready, the Americans are satisfied even without a body. Everyone is afraid of the corruption, both the Arubans and the Dutch. Is my source saying he has to pay informants now?Someone suggested I must go feed the messengers means Shango is leaking information to the media himself. That would explain the anti false information bullsh*t.
45: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:30 pm
Shango is not a Simian Doppleganger and has his own messengers
Yeah, I think Shango must have his own sources when he talks about feeding the messengers. The rest is another reference to the fake Simian.
Out of chronological order:
46: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:04 pm
Joren will be charged with Natalee s death, and everyone will eat the trial up.
47: Shango Says:
June 27th, 2005 at 8:11 pm
Natalee first got into trouble at the rave, but the truth of this is not easy to discern. This rave was held in a shoddy house or seedy establishment; some have suggested that the party Natalee was taken to was near the old gold mine in Arawaki National Park; see attached photos. Date rape and overdose led to Natalee s death; DNA evidence will surface here.
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1191 48: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arubans want the Dutch corruption revealed as long as tourism isn t hurt. Aruba s economy may be preserved, but it this will hurt the Netherlands somehow, and blame ultimately lies with them.
49: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
PVDS and Van Der Straaten may not ever be implicated in anything.
50: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:19 pm
DirtyHand is not a native Aruban, and for now he will not talk. The Arubans are ready for this to blow over, and the Americans are waiting for the outcome of a trial. Light the fires. The gods are talking.
51: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:21 pm
Does this mean the boys won t be convicted, or that they will because they aren t innocent of some wrongdoing (thus not a scapegoat by definition)? See my theory at the bottom of this document
52: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:30 pm
Will Paulus come clean for Joren, stay silent, or lie for himself?
3: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:31 pm
The Kalpoes know who Natalee is, The arubans know who Natalee is . But she was new to the raves and drug scene. The officials know where her body is or that she was alive after she went missing and was used again in the Biblical sense by her captors. If you ever read this Beth, I m really sorry.
54: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:32 pm
The P.M. wans to protect the Dutch image by covering the corruption, he doesn t care about Paulus Van Der Sloot. Remember it is the corruption that is the problem here!
55: Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 9:34 pm
Nobody yet realizes the true extent of the corruption and problems between the corrupt Dut