Pauw en Witteman # 12 De waardige opvolgers van B&vD

Pauw en Witteman
Pauw en Witteman, deel 2
Pauw en Witteman: topic nummero #3
Pauw & Witteman - deeltje 4 - Het kan SCHerper heren
Pauw en Witteman: Geef me de #5.
Pauw en Witteman #6: Wie is de penis?
Pauw en Witteman: Lucky #7
Pauw & Witteman: Vol verw#8ing klopt ons hart.
Pauw & Witteman, deeltje 9
Pauw & Witteman: Een #10 met een griffel.
Pauw & Witteman: welke spuit #11 zit er vandaag?



Elke werkdag op Nederland 1 om 23:00 uur.


Hier verder met iggy Pop.



[ Bericht 85% gewijzigd door Mike op 30-11-2006 06:45:33 ]

Morgen kijk ik niet Maarten van Roozendaal is de John de Wolf van het entertainment.

Ziet er leuk uit, maar als je goed kijkt zie je dat ie er niks van kan.

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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 00:04 schreef Arcee het volgende:
Pauw en Witteman
Pauw en Witteman, deel 2
Pauw en Witteman: topic nummero #3
Pauw & Witteman - deeltje 4 - Het kan SCHerper heren
Pauw en Witteman: Geef me de #5.
Pauw en Witteman #6: Wie is de penis?
Pauw en Witteman: Lucky #7
Pauw & Witteman: Vol verw#8ing klopt ons hart.
Pauw & Witteman, deeltje 9
Pauw & Witteman: Een #10 met een griffel.
Pauw & Witteman: welke spuit #11 zit er vandaag?

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Elke werkdag op Nederland 1 om 23:00 uur.



OP, Tong.

Alsof ik dat kan

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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 00:06 schreef Arcee het volgende:

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Plak dan mijn post in de OP.

[Centraal] Nog meer feedback/opmerkingen/tips over FTR

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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 00:07 schreef SunChaser het volgende:

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Ik ken alleen Lust for Life eigenlijk.

Er werden toen een extreem hoeveelheid tuincentums opgericht

Iggy Pop
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Iggy Pop


"The Godfather of Punk"
Background information
Birth name James Newell Osterberg, Jr.
Born April 21, 1947 Muskegon, Michigan
Genre(s) Hard rock, protopunk, Glam Rock, Garage Rock
Occupation(s) Singer, composer, producer, actor
Instrument(s) Vocals, guitar, keyboards
Years active 1960s—present
Label(s) Virgin, RCA, A&M, Arista
Associated
acts The Stooges, David Bowie
Website www.iggypop.com
James Newell Osterberg, Jr. (born on April 21, 1947 in Muskegon, Michigan), better known by his stage name Iggy Pop, is an American rock singer and occasional actor. Although he has had only limited commercial success, Pop is considered one of the most important innovators of punk rock and related styles. He is sometimes referred to by the nicknames "the Godfather of Punk" and "the Rock Iguana", and is widely acknowledged as one of the most dynamic stage performers of rock. Pop was the lead singer of The Stooges, a late 1960s/early 1970s band that was highly influential in the development of hard rock. The Stooges became infamous for their live performances in which Pop leapt off the stage (thus inventing the "stage dive"), smeared raw meat and on one occasion peanut butter over his chest and cut himself with broken bottles. Many subsequent performers have imitated Pop’s antics.

Although he would never revisit the primal vitality of his days with the Stooges, Pop has had varying degrees of success in his 25 years as a solo artist. His best-known songs include "Lust for Life", "I'm Bored", "Real Wild Child", the Top 40 hit "Candy", and "The Passenger" (the latter based on a poem written by Jim Morrison).

A film about Pop's life and career titled The Passenger is currently in production.

Contents [hide]
1 History
1.1 1947 to 1967: early career
1.2 1968 to 1975: The Stooges era
1.3 1976 to 1978: Bowie and Berlin
1.4 1979 to 1981: the Arista albums
1.5 The 1980s
1.6 The 1990s
1.7 Recent career
2 Film career
3 Influence
4 Discography
4.1 With The Iguanas
4.2 With The Stooges
4.3 With James Williamson
4.4 Solo
5 External links



[edit] History

[edit] 1947 to 1967: early career
Pop was born in Muskegon, Michigan to Newell Osterberg, a former debt collector, and Louella Christensen. His father, who was adopted by a Swedish American family, was of Irish and English descent, while his mother was of Danish and Norwegian ancestry.[1] He began his music career as a drummer in different high school bands in Ypsilanti, Michigan. One band was the Iguanas, where he acquired the name Iggy. After exploring local blues-style bands he eventually dropped out of the University of Michigan and moved to Chicago to learn more about blues. Inspired by Chicago blues as well as bands like The Doors, he formed the Psychedelic Stooges and called himself Iggy Pop. He got the name Pop because he once shaved his eyebrows for a show, after which he looked like a friend with the last name Popp who had recently undergone chemotherapy and was eyebrowless himself. The band was composed of Pop on vocals, Ron Asheton on guitar, Asheton's brother Scott on drums, and Dave Alexander on bass. After almost two years they made their debut in Ann Arbor, Michigan.


[edit] 1968 to 1975: The Stooges era
One year after their debut, and now dubbed the Stooges, the band were signed to Elektra Records in 1968. The Stooges' first two albums, The Stooges, (on which Iggy was credited as Iggy Stooge) produced by John Cale, and Fun House, sold poorly, although they had a lasting influence on the burgeoning punk movement. Shortly after the new members joined the band broke up because of Pop's growing heroin addiction.

David Bowie salvaged Pop's career by producing an album with him in England. With James Williamson signed on as guitarist, the search began for a rhythm section. However, since neither Iggy nor Bowie were satisfied with any players in England, they decided to re-unite The Stooges. It would not be a true reunion, in that Dave Alexander would not play on the album. He had become a full-on alcoholic, unable to play on the record; he died in 1975. Also, Ron Asheton grudgingly moved from guitar to bass to make way for Williamson to play guitar. The recording sessions produced the punk rock landmark Raw Power, in 1973. After its release Scott Thurston was added to the band on keyboards/electric piano and Bowie continued his support, but Pop's drug problem persisted. The Stooges' last show ended in a fight between the band and a group of bikers, documented on the album Metallic K.O.. Drug abuse put his career on hold for a couple of years.


[edit] 1976 to 1978: Bowie and Berlin
After the second breakup of the Stooges, Pop made some recordings with James Williamson, but these weren't released until 1977 (as Kill City, credited jointly to Pop and Williamson). Pop was unable to control his various drug habits, however, and checked himself into a mental institution to try and clean up. David Bowie was one of his few visitors there, and he continued to support Pop. In 1976, "when I wasn't doing much" as Pop euphemistically put it, Bowie took Pop along as his companion on the Station to Station tour. This was Pop's first exposure to large-scale professional touring and he was impressed, particularly with Bowie's work rate.

Bowie and Pop relocated to West Berlin to wean themselves off their addictions. Pop signed to RCA and Bowie helped write and produce The Idiot and Lust for Life (both 1977), Pop's two most acclaimed albums as a solo artist, the latter with another team of brothers, Hunt and Tony Sales. Among songs they wrote together were "China Girl", "Tonight", and "Sister Midnight", all of which Bowie performed on his own albums later on (the last being recorded with different lyrics as "Red Money" on the album Lodger). Bowie also played keyboards in Pop's live performances, some of which are featured on the album TV Eye (1978). In return Pop contributed backing vocals on Bowie's Low.


[edit] 1979 to 1981: the Arista albums
Pop was unhappy with RCA, however. He later admitted that he'd made TV Eye as a quick way of fulfilling his three-album RCA contract and moving on elsewhere. This was Arista Records, for which he released New Values in 1979. This album was something of a Stooges reunion, with James Williamson producing and latter-day Stooge Scott Thurston playing guitar and keyboards. Not surprisingly, the album's style veered back to the guitar sound of the Stooges. Although highly regarded by many Iggy fans -- some preferring it to the Bowie albums -- New Values was not a commercial success, despite some strong material including "I'm Bored" and "Five Foot One".

The album was moderately successful in Australia and New Zealand, however, and this led to Pop's first visit there to promote it. While in Melbourne, he made a memorable appearance on the ABC's nationwide pop show Countdown. During his anarchic performance of "I'm Bored", Pop made no attempt to conceal the fact that he was miming, and he even tried to grab the teenage girls in the audience. An obviously 'wired' Iggy was also interviewed by host Ian "Molly" Meldrum, an exchange which was frequently punctuated by the singer jumping up and down on his chair and making loud exclamations of "G'day mate" in a mock Australian accent. His Countdown appearance is generally considered one of the highlights of the show's history and it cemented his popularity with Australian punk fans; since then he has often toured there. While visiting New Zealand, Pop recorded a video for "I'm Bored", featuring him outside and inside The Beehive, part of the country's Parliament buildings. This was widely aired on New Zealand television.

While in Australia Pop was also the guest on a live late-night commercial TV interview show on the Ten Network. Iggy's wit and intelligence and his articulate manner confounded the panel of journalists, whose main purpose was asking about his drug use.[citation needed] It is not known whether a recording of this interview exists but the famous Countdown appearance has often been re-screened in Australia.

During the recording of Soldier (1980), Pop and Williamson quarrelled over production - the latter apparently wanted a big, Phil Spector-type sound - and Williamson was fired. David Bowie appeared on the song Play it Safe performing backing vocals with Simple Minds. The album and its follow-up Party (1981) were both commercial failures, and Pop was dropped from Arista. His drug habit varied in intensity, but remained.


[edit] The 1980s

Iggy Pop (left) with Tom Waits (right) from the film Coffee and Cigarettes.In 1982, Pop released what would be his final album for some time, Zombie Birdhouse, on Chris Stein's Animal label, with Stein himself producing. Commercially, the album was no improvement on his Arista works.

In 1983, Pop's fortunes changed. David Bowie recorded a version of the song "China Girl', which had originally appeared on The Idiot. Bowie's version was a worldwide hit single and as co-writer of the song, Pop received substantial royalties. In 1984, Bowie recorded another old Pop-Bowie song, Tonight, bringing more royalty money to Pop, who for the first time was financially secure, at least for the short term. Bowie's intention was to help his friend get out of the clutches of the IRS by including co-writer credits to Pop on tracks from his blockbuster Let's Dance album and the less successful follow-up Tonight. This enabled Pop to take a three-year break, during which he overcame his heroin addiction, took acting classes and got married.

In 1985, Pop recorded some demos with guitarist Steve Jones, previously of the Sex Pistols. He played these demos to David Bowie, who was sufficiently impressed to offer to produce an album for Pop: 1986's New Wave-influenced Blah Blah Blah, featuring the single "Real Wild Child", a cover of "Wild One (Real Wild Child)", originally co-written and recorded by Australian rock'n'roll pioneer Johnny O'Keefe in 1959. The single was a Top 10 hit in the UK and was also successful around the world, especially in Australia, where for the last twenty years it has been used as the theme music for the ABC's late-night music video show Rage. It remains Pop's solitary brush with major commercial success. Blah Blah Blah was Pop's highest-charting album in the U.S. since The Idiot in 1977, peaking at #75 on the Billboard Top 200 albums chart.

In 1987, Pop appeared (along with Bootsy Collins) on a mostly instrumental album by Japanese composer Ryuichi Sakamoto.

The follow-up to Blah Blah Blah, Instinct (1988), was a turnaround in musical direction, however. Its stripped-back, guitar-based sound leaned further towards the sound of the Stooges than any Pop solo album to date. His record label, which had most likely been expecting another Blah Blah Blah, dropped him.


[edit] The 1990s
In 1990 Pop recorded Brick by Brick, produced by Don Was, with members of Guns N' Roses and The B-52s as guests, as well as backup vocals by many local Hollywood groups, some of whom would be recruited for his band to tour and perform on his "Kiss My Blood" video (1991). The album was his first Gold-certified album in the U.S. (denoting sales of over 500,000 copies) and featured his first Top 40 U.S. hit, "Candy," a duet with B-52s singer Kate Pierson.

Also in 1990, Pop starred in the controversial opera The Manson Family by composer John Moran, released on Point Music/Phillip Classics where he sang the role of prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi.

In 1992, he collaborated with Goran Bregović on the soundtrack for movie Arizona Dream by Emir Kusturica. Pop sang four of the songs: "In the Deathcar", "TV Screen", "Get the Money", and "This is a Film".

In 1995, Pop again found mainstream fame when his 1977 song "Lust for Life" was featured prominently in the film Trainspotting. A new video was recorded for the song, with clips from the film and studio footage of Iggy dancing with one of its stars, Ewen Bremner; an Iggy Pop concert was an important plot point, as it dissolved the relationship between Tommy and Lizzie. The song has also been used in TV commercials for Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines (with many music critics denouncing the usage of the song to promote peppy cruises) and as the theme music to The Jim Rome Show, a nationally-syndicated American sports talk show.

Also in 1995, Pop released Naughty Little Doggie, with Whitey Kirst returning on guitar, and the single "I Wanna Live". He co-produced 1999's Avenue B with Don Was, releasing the single "Corruption", and produced 2001's Beat 'Em Up, which gave birth to The Trolls, releasing the single "Football" featuring Trolls alumni Whitey Kirst and brother Alex.

In 1997 he remixed Raw Power to give it a rougher, more hard-edged sound; fans had complained for years that Bowie's official 'rescue effort' mix was muddy and lacking in bass. Pop testified in the reissue's liner notes that on the new mix, "everything's still in the red."

In the early to middle 1990s Iggy Pop would make several guest appearances on the Nickelodeon show The Adventures of Pete and Pete. He played James Mecklenberg, Nona Mecklenberg's father. He also appeared as a Vorta in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "The Magnificent Ferengi".


[edit] Recent career
Pop supplied vocals for the 1999 Death in Vegas UK Top 10 hit single Aisha.

Pop's latest album, 2003's Skull Ring, features collaborations with Sum 41, Green Day and The Trolls, as well as the Asheton brothers, reuniting the surviving Stooges for the first time since 1974. He made guest appearances on electroclash artist Peaches's song "Kick It" and on the track "Rolodex Propaganda" by At the Drive-In.

Also in 2003, having enjoyed working with Ron and Scott Asheton on Skull Ring, Iggy reformed the Stooges with bassist Mike Watt (formerly of the Minutemen) filling in for the late Dave Alexander, and Fun House saxophonist Steve MacKay rejoining the lineup. They have been touring regularly since 2004 and are reported to be planning a new studio album with Steve Albini producing.

In 2003 the first full-length biography of Iggy was published by Omnibus Press. Gimme Danger - The Story of Iggy Pop was written by Joe Ambrose. Pop did not collaborate on the biography or publicly endorse it. In 2005, he appeared, along with Madonna, Little Richard, Bootsy Collins, and The Roots' ?uestlove, in an American TV commercial for the Motorola ROKR phone.

In early 2006, Iggy and the Stooges played in Australia and New Zealand for the Big Day Out. The Stooges are currently at work on a new album, tentatively due out in 2007. It will feature tracks produced by Steve Albini and Jack White of the White Stripes.[2]

In August 2006 Iggy and the Stooges performed at the Lowlands pop festival in the Netherlands.

Paul Trynka, former editor of MOJO and a writer whose books include The History of Denim, has completed a biography of Iggy Pop (with his blessing) called Open Up and Bleed, to be released in early 2007 in the US and UK by Random House.


[edit] Film career
Pop has had a limited career as an actor. He has appeared in sixteen movies (mostly in smaller roles), including Sid and Nancy, The Color of Money, Hardware (voice only), The Crow: City of Angels, The Rugrats Movie, Snow Day, Coffee and Cigarettes, Somewhere in California, Cry-Baby, Dead Man and Atolladero, a Spanish science fiction Western in which he also sings the main theme.

He has been featured in five television series, including Tales from the Crypt, The Adventures of Pete & Pete, and Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, in which he played Yelgrun in "The Magnificent Ferengi" episode.

Although Pop had nothing to do with the movie, Ewan McGregor's sexually ambiguous, drug-fuelled character in Velvet Goldmine is considered by most critics to be modelled on him. Likewise, the character of Rock Head in Sid and Nancy (in which Pop plays a different character) is thought by some to be based on Pop. He had a walk on appearance in the film as a prospective tenant at The Chelsea Hotel.

Pop has been profiled in four rockumentaries and has had songs on eighteen soundtracks, including Crocodile Dundee and Trainspotting.

A bio-pic of Pop is in the works with Elijah Wood taking on the major role. The film has a working title of The Passenger and is due to begin filming in late 2006.


[edit] Influence
Pop earned a place in punk rock history by popularizing many of the stage routines that are now commonplace among musicians: he was among the first to stage dive and "crowd walk". Some of his antics have yet to have been topped by even the most "outrageous" of contemporary bands: among other things, in his prime he was known to cut himself and roll around in peanut butter on stage, and is rumored to have once received oral sex from a fan in front of an audience.

Although Pop has never had a Top 10 album or best-selling single, his impact on rock music is widely acknowledged; among the famous musicians who have claimed him and his band The Stooges as an influence are the Sex Pistols, the Ramones and Nirvana.

The song "Punk Rock" on the album Come on Die Young by Mogwai is a tribute to Iggy Pop, as it samples a speech that Pop gave on punk rock from an interview on the CBC, March 11, 1977. During that interview, Peter Gzowski asked Iggy to clarify music labeled as "punk rock." Iggy, as some have now dubbed "the Grandfather of Punk," sat upright in his chair and defended the use of "punk", ending his speech (or tirade) in indignant repose.

I'll tell you about punk rock: punk rock is a word used by dilettantes and, uh... and, uh... heartless manipulators, about music... that takes up the energies, and the bodies, and the hearts and the souls and the time and the minds, of young men, who give what they have to it, and give everything they have to it. And it's a... it's a term that's based on contempt; it's a term that's based on fashion, style, elitism, satanism, and, everything that's rotten about rock 'n' roll.
I don't know Johnny Rotten... but I'm sure, I'm sure he puts as much blood and sweat into what he does as Sigmund Freud did. You see, what, what sounds to you like a big load of trashy old noise... is in fact... the brilliant music of a genius... myself. And that music is so powerful, that it's quite beyond my control. And, ah... when I'm in the grips of it, I don't feel pleasure and I don't feel pain, either physically or emotionally. Do you understand what I'm talking about? Have you ever, have you ever felt like that? When you just, when you just, you couldn't feel anything, and you didn't want to either. You know, like that? Do you understand what I'm saying, sir?
The Iggy and the Stooges song "Search and Destroy" was covered by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and appeared as a B-side of "By the Way" and "Give it Away" as well as on the compilation The Beavis and Butthead Experience album, and by the band Emanuel for the Tony Hawk's American Wasteland soundtrack; moreover, he is referenced in the Red Hot Chili Peppers' song "Coffee Shop" from their 1996 album, One Hot Minute. Nike also used "Search and Destroy" in their 1996 Olympics promotion. "Search and Destroy" is also featured in the 2004 film The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou. The song "Raw Power" was covered by Guns N' Roses for the ill-fated The Spaghetti Incident? album. David Bowie covered "China Girl" on his album Let's Dance, "Tonight" and "Neighbourhood Threat" on Tonight, and "Bang Bang" on Never Let Me Down. "The Passenger" was covered by Siouxsie & the Banshees on their album Through the Looking Glass, and by INXS's Michael Hutchence on the Batman Forever soundtrack. The Stooges song "1969" was covered by goth rock band The Sisters of Mercy (included on their singles collection Some Girls Wander by Mistake) and by Joey Ramone on his solo album Don't Worry About Me. "1970" was covered by The Damned on their debut album Damned, Damned, Damned and by Charged GBH on their City Baby's Revenge album, both instances under the song's alternate title of "I Feel Alright". The band Monster Magnet also recorded a cover of "1970" and often add the song to their live set.

Pop's solo album The Idiot has been cited as a major influence on post-punk, electronic and industrial artists such as Joy Division, Depeche Mode and Nine Inch Nails. David Bowie's "The Jean Genie" is about an Iggy Pop like character. Nick Cave has been quoted as saying that the Stooges' Fun House LP was "the greatest rock record ever made". He and The Birthday Party once did a 45-minute set of only Stooges songs back in the early 1980s under the name of 'The Cave Men'. One of the most popular bands of former Yugoslavia, Azra, recorded a song entitled "Iggy Pop" on their first album, released in 1980

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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 00:10 schreef Arcee het volgende:
Jeeeezus, Tong!

De laatste woorden van Maria.

En ze kozen Jezus

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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 00:12 schreef SunChaser het volgende:
Raar dat Amerikaanse junks (Iggy Pop) en Engelse Junks (Keith Richards) langer blijven leven dan Nederlandse jjunks (Wally Tax, Herman Brood)

De enige Nederlandse junk die we nog hebben is Armand

Legendarische woorden van Armand :

'Als ik word gecremeerd, kan heel Nederland 3 jaar lang gratis stoned worden van mijn as'

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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 00:15 schreef venomsnake het volgende:

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WTF..

Ik kijk nu, maar het kan me niet boeien.

Sonja heeft gelijk wat betreft de 2de WO-connectie.

Ik kan geen hekel aan Marco krijgen.

Heb ik wat gemist ?

Waarom gaat zo'n meid niet naar de kapper, en vanwaar zulke oorbellen ? Ik luister niet eens naar wat ze zegt. Kijk ook naar haar halsketting. Wat voor laarzen zou ze aanhebben ?

En die lok voor haar ogen, die zwiebert en zwabbert, daar word je toch gestoord van ?

Oe nu een pluk haar in haar mond.

Ze heeft geen armband om. Wel vreemd.

Zit er nou een knoop achter in haar haar, of is het haar haar dat raar krult qua haar ?

Ze praat erg met haar handen, die dan ook nog eens de helft van de tijd door haar haar gaan.

Plak dan een pleister ofzo op die pluk. Is ook geen gezicht maar je houdt wel je handen stil.

Waar heeft ze het over ?

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:19 schreef Wup het volgende:
wat vertelt dat mens leuk, jammer van het onderwerp maar goed

Leuk

Dit is weer zo'n zelfkicker die morgen weer terug in de vergetelheid gaat.

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:23 schreef Suko het volgende:
Alicia zou de reden kunnen zijn voor de crisis tussen Juul en Benno ipv Hofmans, maar ook nu zegt ze er eigenlijk niks over, zou kunnen e.d, kortom ze weet t ook niet. 'Wat een flauwe kul zeg!

Ja heerlijk broodje aap met een haar op je broodje.

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:24 schreef Wup het volgende:

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ze vertelt heel wat onderhoudender dan die volkskrant en telegraaf journalisten vorige week
het is me niet zo duidelijk wat ze doet voor de kost trouwens

Leek mij een Keylerwegtype

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:24 schreef Eightball het volgende:

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Tong, je moet effe het Schaep kijken.

Niet nu, weer een muts die aandacht wil.

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:28 schreef Eightball het volgende:

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Ow.

Nou ja dat gaat voor natuurlijk.
Maar wis die aflevering niet! Niet dus.wissen Niet, als in niet wissen.

Ik ga meezingen

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:32 schreef Jane het volgende:
Je kunt zeggen wat je wilt, maar na André Rouvoet doet Tineke Huizinga toch ook goede zaken om de Christen Unie niet als vastgeroeste gristelijke partij over te laten komen. Ze blijkt nog gevoel van humor te hebben ook! Wie had dat gedacht?

Ik kan je vertellen dat meiden uit gereformeerde milieus als ze eenmaal 18 zijn de meeste jongens neuken.

Marcel Möring die heeft 100.000 boeken verkocht omdat we sinterklaas hebben.

En hij citeert nog uit die bagger ook. Heeft ie tien jaar over gedaan mensen, om de impact van dit meesterwerk maar even te plaatsen.

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Op dinsdag 5 december 2006 23:45 schreef golfer het volgende:
Marcel Möring is wel grappig.

Nou zeg.

Lachen

Te veel tekst

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Op woensdag 6 december 2006 00:31 schreef Ooster het volgende:

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Rukker! Nahja, bedankt voor de schop...

lees svp 2 berichten ^

Sorrie van mijn semie-lollige post. Goeie tekst

Suko