[Centraal] MMA #49 Waar we het graag clean houden...

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 11:12 schreef Unstoppable het volgende:
Texeira heeft toch verder weinig met NL te maken?

Kharitonov heeft wel wat een bol hoofd gekregen trouwens

ValeTudo.ru Сергей Харитонов в концерте "Никто кроме нас"

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 00:33 schreef Unstoppable het volgende:

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Doet er niks aan af dat Silva gewoon rondes lang werd gedomineerd

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 15:06 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

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Flikker op met je spam. Je bent sowieso lekker laat met deze actie.
Site ziet er ook absoluut niet uit.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 15:46 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Paxlie dit is geen spam, dit is een oproep die in ons aller belang is!
Kijk anders eens op mixfight, daar is een soortgelijke post geplaatst.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 15:51 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:

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De link die in zijn post staat gaat naar de gemeente Amsterdam, dat vechtcluppie is inderdaad een slechte forum site... Daar zal de oproep ook wel staan.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 16:08 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Hebben we het nou over dezelfde site, mixfight? Om dat een slechte forum site te noemen is echt kolder.

Tommy, wat had je in gedachten? Dat wij het allemaal over ons heen laten komen en niets doen? Zie je niet dat hier iets zeer onredelijks gebeurd? Als er een vage mail tussen zit, so be it. Dat krijgt die burgemeester sowieso wel eens. Maar om niets te doen is erger.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 16:14 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

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Alsof ze het er echt doorheen krijgen, enige wat ze dan bereiken is dat het echt naar de onderwereld verhuist. Daar komen ze vanzelf achter dus daar maak ik me niet druk om. Mixfight is ok qua design.
Dat 108 verhaal is gewoon bruut lelluk.

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Fightclub108.nl roept jullie op om alle meningsverschillen e.d. voor 1 keer overboord te zetten en om in het belang van de sport jullie te vragen om een nette e-mail of brief te sturen naar de gemeente Amsterdam, om zo te laten zien hoe het kickboksen leeft onder de liefhebbers.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 16:43 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Dat onderwereld gebeuren is onzin.

Voor de rest:
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Dit zegt genoeg.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 16:57 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:

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Nee, maar een mail zegt niets, als je 50000 handtekeningen, digitaal of analoog kan aanleveren dan heeft het impact, nu is er niet te zien wat er gebeurd en vertraag je alleen maar een overheidsapparaat. Niet dat ik het zo op gemeentes etc heb, maar ze kunnen ook nuttige dingen doen met hun tijd ipv alleen maar ongeorganiseerde initiatieven.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 17:08 schreef LitmanenAFCA het volgende:
Hopelijk wint Cro Cop van Mir trouwens

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 17:50 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
* Tazmaniac is er ook weer bij

Leuke TT Tommy.

Volgens mij krijgen we weer een nieuwe rel binnen de UFC.
Volgens de trainers van Belfort is hij 100% fit en blessure vrij, er zou snel meer nieuws volgen.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 18:05 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Laatste keer is er ook al afgezegd door Belfort, misschien heeft het te maken dat er veels te weinig aan PPV geld wordt gemaakt,waardoor de vechters ook procentueel veel minder krijgen.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 21:57 schreef Opgezwollenlever het volgende:
Oberhausen ziet er steeds slechter uit, ik twijfel ook echt of ik nog ga. Aan de andere kant is dit wel een unieke kans.

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 18:21 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:

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UFC 122 is sowieso geen PPV maar te zien op Spike TV (via tape delay) maar ik begrijp wat je bedoelt

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Op woensdag 22 september 2010 19:02 schreef Paxlie het volgende:
(overigens ken ik Bert v/d Ryd weer persoonlijk, heb vroeger onder hem gewerkt en hij werkt samen met mijn oud-buurman, lang verhaal).

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Op vrijdag 24 september 2010 08:57 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:

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Op vrijdag 24 september 2010 11:40 schreef incognitoomuch het volgende:

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Op vrijdag 24 september 2010 19:22 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

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Dat was idd gewoon geniaal

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 12:13 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Bullshit bedragen, hoe kom je daaraan

en blijf meteen weg van de MMA sites vanaf nu.. Dream.16 spoilers all over the place

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 21:41 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Ik ga er morgen lekker voor zitten

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:26 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
- cut -

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:38 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:

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At least we agree on the main event

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:41 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:

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haha shit ja, voor de rest alles anders

Benieuwd of nog iemand zijn picks neerzet al denk ik niet nog veel mensen het topic bekijken

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:41 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:

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haha shit ja, voor de rest alles anders

Benieuwd of nog iemand zijn picks neerzet al denk ik niet nog veel mensen het topic bekijken

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:46 schreef Hoogstaande het volgende:

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Ik heb er simpelweg nog niet genoeg ervaring er in

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:55 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:

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Ik zit ook maar op 60%, gewoon posten wat je denkt

Heb net wat euri erop gegooid... veel leuke bets omdat ze zo aan elkaar gewaagd zijn!!

Sherk, Nog, Stephens en Serra zijn allemaal underdogs

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:56 schreef Hoogstaande het volgende:

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Waar heb je ingezet?

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:58 schreef Hoogstaande het volgende:
Ok doe met je mee
Verhoogd de spanning een beetje morgen

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 23:04 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:

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Precies, maar de keerzijde is nog meer irritatie aan mannen als Bader

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 23:20 schreef McNulty het volgende:
Heeft iemand dit filmpje trouwens al gezien? Toch niet niet zoveel praatjes die Sonnen.

Wanderlei Silva confronts Chael Sonnen about his smack talk

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 23:26 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:

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Awesome

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 23:20 schreef McNulty het volgende:
Heeft iemand dit filmpje trouwens al gezien? Toch niet niet zoveel praatjes die Sonnen.

Wanderlei Silva confronts Chael Sonnen about his smack talk

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You have respect, you don't loose your teeth!

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:26 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Main Card
Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
We gotta thank Silva for this one, wat een match-up
Ik ga voor Stephens by decision maar Melvin heeft natuurlijk ook een goede
kans om te winnen. Hij zal als een bezetene voor de KO punch gaan!!

Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
The Muscle Shark is terug!! Na 16 lange maanden is hij erop uit om ongelsagen jongeling Evan Dunham op zijn sodeflikker te geven.. Dunham heeft bewezen dat hij weet om te gaan met een sterke wrestler en de vraag is hoe Sherk terugkomt maar ik denk dat hij Dunham zijn eerste verlies zal geven!!

Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
Serra is een held, hij zit over een half jaar alweer 10jaar in de UFC

Ik zie Lytle niet winnen

Ant�nio Rog�rio Nogueira vs. Ryan Bader
Bader Schmader met zijn kut geworstel de hele tjid.
Laat Minotoro hem maar eens een lesje leren.. fist in yo face time

Frank Mir vs. Mirko Filipović
CroCop is 5-1 in zijn laatste zes maar als je ziet wie hij verslagen heeft..
Ik geloof er niet in dat onze favoriet ook nog maar 1 high profile match kan winnen.

Mir by submission. (ja ik weet dat Nog de enige is die hem ooit gesubmit heeft)
_{Sub by punches is bullshit dus die van Junior telt niet}

Edit:
Ohja en Mark Hunt maakt zijn UFC debuut (omdat Dana verplicht was hem een contract aan te bieden
omdat ze Pride over hebben genomen). Ik vind het nog steeds lachwekkend maar ik denk wel
dat Hunt dit erg serieus heeft genomen en daarom ook van reus McCorkle gaat winnen

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 00:07 schreef n00cL30n het volgende:
En dat toch CroCop gaat winnen, mits hij niet gelijk voor de te voorspelbare LHK gaat, maar dat hij steeds blijft knallen met legkicks,
De benen onder Mir vandaan trappen waardoor hij Mir laat 'gassen' en geen poot meer geeft om op te staan.

Icing on the cake: finish by G'n'P of misschien wel een RNC.

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 22:12 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Spike TV:
* Heavyweight bout: Matt Mitrione vs. Joey Beltran
* Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs. Joe Doerksen

Main card:
* Lightweight bout: Melvin Guillard vs. Jeremy Stephens
* Lightweight bout: Sean Sherk vs. Evan Dunham
* Welterweight bout: Matt Serra vs. Chris Lytle
* Light Heavyweight bout: Ant�nio Rog�rio Nogueira vs. Ryan Bader
* Heavyweight bout: Frank Mir vs. Mirko Filipović

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Op zaterdag 25 september 2010 23:40 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:

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Het grootste deel van zijn praatjes was naar mijn idee in opdracht van Zuffa.
Lekker kijkertjes binnenhalen met zo'n badboy.

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 00:47 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:

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Dream on, little dreamer

Maar het zou wel kicken zijn als hij wint.

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 20:12 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
Ivan Hippolyte

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 22:06 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Btw, geen KO of the Night uitgereikt aan [spoiler]? Dus Dana was 'not impressed'?

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 22:37 schreef DanHardy het volgende:
Viel inderdaad heel heel heel heel erg tegen. Er zijn er een paar wel toe aan hun pensioen dacht ik zo. . En het betaalsysteem moet anders, er wordt teveel gevochten om niet te verliezen.

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 20:12 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
Ivan Hippolyte

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 22:37 schreef DanHardy het volgende:
Viel inderdaad heel heel heel heel erg tegen. Er zijn er een paar wel toe aan hun pensioen dacht ik zo. . En het betaalsysteem moet anders, er wordt teveel gevochten om niet te verliezen.

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 22:46 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Yellow cards net als in Pride....?

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Op zondag 26 september 2010 22:53 schreef roepdeman het volgende:

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Aaight let me know als je komt trainen

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Luther’s Street Fight Breakdown
http://www.fighttips.com/(...)fight-breakdown.html

Okay, guys so I noticed there are a lot of misconceptions and confusion over what martial art is the ‘best’ for a street fight. Now of course it all depends on the user, the instructor, and/or the situation. This is not a ‘must use this’ list, but more of just a breakdown of the separate arts that help more in a street fight, from my experience and the experience of others. I have given each art a rating to from my opinion and that of the martial art community of large.

Krav Maga-4 /5. Krav Maga is a great martial art to use on the street. It is a relatively simple and straight forward, which is good in street combat where complex moves can be forgotten. It is used by special agents and special forces the world over. Most Krav Maga instructors also teach hard conditioning using pads to batter the defender in order for the defender to learn how to act under pressure and confusion. Designed for combat it is very good at handing multiple attackers as well as armed attackers. It consists of ‘battering’ techniques for the most part designed to make the attacker submit from the assault. One of the cons of Krav Maga is that it has a habit of plateau-ing after a certain point. The moves can also be too committed as well and sometimes work off of the concept of a one or two strike victory.

Muay Thai-3.5/5. Muay Thai is a very common art in today’s MMA world and lots of people claim it works well on the street. Which it does. Consisting of punches, elbows, knees, feet, and in Muay Boran, the head. Thai fighters have good footwork and are very good at working at different ranges. It is a very hard style, meaning that the average Muay Thai fighter is used to a little bit of contact; something more traditional styles lack. They are also used to taking hits and as such can recover will in a street fight. Some of the cons of Muay Thai in a street fight are that it is not as effective against ‘pure’ street styles (Krav Maga, Kali, Silat, Systema) and Muay Thai’s fighting style is designed for rounds of fighting and not so much as a really quick victory. Also, Muay Thai is a very limited style with only a handful of strikes and no ground work or takedowns.

Western Boxing-3/5. Western Boxing shares many of the same qualities as Muay Thai when it comes to being a hard style. However boxing does not have any strikes outside of punches and relies on footwork to beat other arts. The cons of a boxer a pretty obvious as it has no kicks, takedowns, groundwork, and plays by a lot of rules. However, if you decide to go toe-to-toe with a boxer, you will get rocked.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu(BJJ)-3.25/5. I’m sure a lot of people will disagree with me here, but I think that BJJ loses a lot of its power on the street. It is purely a ground fighting art. One on one it is a very effective art worthy of at least a 4/5. However, on the street it is a death sentence to go to the ground. If you are jumped you will get stomped/kicked. That being said: BJJ can mangle people very easily. It can be used to fight much larger opponents and is the pinnacle of rape protection (yes, it happens to men too).

Judo-3.5/5. Judo is very similar to BJJ, but also consists of takedowns as well as ground work, hence the slightly higher rating. One of the problems with Judo takedowns is that it often takes both fighters to the ground. This brings us back to the same problem as BJJ.

Kali 4.5/5. I am very biased on this style as it is my expertise. Kali is a very old style and is considered the elite of street combat. It is designed to combat many opponents and is a war style. It uses open hand, short blades, long blades, impact weapons, flexible weapons (i.e.: rope), nunchuka, two handed weapons, biting, etc. It is very indepth and almost impossible to learn everything there is to know, however this is also, its con. Kali takes much longer than many martial arts to become proficient, however once that point is reached the practitioner is very dangerous.

Kickboxing*-3.25/5. I felt it only fair to give kickboxing a rate in between Muay Thai and Boxing. Kickboxing is another hard style that is fairly effective on the street. As its name suggests it works with kicks and punches. These are straight forward and simple and hold up will in a conflict. However no knees or elbows are allowed in kickboxing and most groups (In the United States) don’t allow low kicks like in Muay Thai. As such it again loses out to other styles due to rules and regulations.

Wrestling*-3/5. Wrestling is an okay style for street fighting, but again lacks the proper stand-up necessary in an altercation. Wrestling does have some good take downs and has good stand-up grappling. However once on the ground, wrestling matches often last too long to be completely effective and lose out to BJJ. However a wrestler is very good at projecting weight onto the attacker and if well trained can overpower one attacker on the ground quite well without inflicting lasting damage.

Tae Kwon Do(TKD) – 2.75/5. Sorry TKD guys, but it’s really not a practical street fighting style. I have been beaten by TKD guys, but only in the ring and they were both 2 degree Black Belts. TKD has too much flash to be used on the street, such as high flying and spinning style kicks. TKD does have some simple and straight forward moves, but not enough in variation to be completely effective in a street fight. Another problem is TKD guys are not used to being hit hard as most tournaments only allow up to medium strength hits and no face shots.

School Yard Brawl – 2/5. School yard brawling may look effective to the untrained eye, but haymakers and random swinging are far from effective against a trained fighter. This is less of a rating and more of a warning for all of you out there thinking: “Martial Arts are for wimps”. Against a good martial artist you will lose every single time. But hey, it’s cheap to learn.

Wing Chun Kung Fu – 3.75/5. Wing Chun can get a bad rep in the martial art world, but that’s because it’s not truly understood. Wing Chun is a very linear and closed style that protects the body very well. It is fast and efficient, however it is very hard to find a good school because of Bruce Lee. It is a centerline attack style and the attacks are very non-committed. Wing Chun trapping is also very good. A great style if you can find a good school. I have never ‘fully’ trained in Wing Chun, but my studio teaches it at the highest degree and I often watch.

Hapkido – 2.75/5. Ok, Hapkido is a little tough to rate. I give it such a low rating because of the fact of its overly complicated for what you get. Hapkido is mostly joint locks and strikes that work towards joint locks. Kicking and takedowns are also included which make it a little more effective. However on the street, joint locks only work as long as pressure is applied and that means you must commit to one attacker at a time and that as soon as you let go, they are good to go (unless you use a joint break). Also, some of the techniques take up too much room for urban areas like an alley. However, Hapkido is still very effective one on one to contain a situation without hurting the person too much. I feel the need to restate that all of these reviews are overviews and that there are always exceptions.

Silat – 4.5/5. Silat is very similar to Kali, which is understandable as they were developed in the same location. It too is a war style, that is to say, designed for multiple attackers and quick, efficient attacks. Silat varies greatly so it is hard to point down one style of fighting among practitioners, however most share these traits: A low center of gravity, an advanced weapon system that is interchangeable to unarmed combat, and advanced footwork. Silat typically delivers a very brutal attack that is intended to drive the attacker to the ground where the Silat practitioner can deliver the fatal strikes or negate the attacker’s ability to combat him. One difference between Kali and Silat is that Kali favors muscle/flesh destruction, Silat favors bone destruction. It remains to be seen which is better.

Shotokan Karate - 3.25. Shotokan Karate recieves a mid-ground rating because it is exactly that. A mid-ground martial art. It is a kata based system which helps with muscle memory, but has a habit of limiting options. It has a realistic street fighting system that takes into account cheap shots and has many itself. However, it is static and relies to much on a one or two hit win system. This is mostly the schools that teach Shotokan's fault. It, like TKD, has been McDojoed. Also, Shotokan Karate stresses hard blocks and strikes but does not utilize breaks and other 'street' varible attacks.

Savate - 3.5. Okay, now before everyone freaks I am talking about the street style French Savate, not Boxe francaise. It was made for the streets and then taken to the ring, not the other way around. Savate is French kickboxing that is designed to be done with shoes. They kick with the toe tip in a flicking or stabbing motion. Often these are designed to hit the attackers liver, kidneys and diaphragm which usually will drop an attack to the ground. Also, in the street version of Savate shin kicking similar to Thai is taught. Savate also teaches very good transitions between kicks and punches. One downside to Savate is that it can often easily off balance if the person is not trained enough. Also, no knees and elbows are taught in most Savate, which are very useful on the street.

Japanese Jiu-Jitsu(JJJ) - 4/5. I give JJJ a higher rating than most people would, purely because it has such a all encompassing system. Bjj, Judo, and Karate all came from JJJ. It has all the elements of the arts I just listed as well as some that it has all to itself, such as knife techniques. The only down side with JJJ is that it has a habit of not evolving to the times. What I mean by that is that JJJ can at times seem trapped in the time of the Samurai and is unwilling to adapt to today's society. This is best seen in their weapons mindset. Arnis/Kali, Silat, and Krav Maga have all moved toward a more modern system of defense, JJJ has not. However, it is still one of the best for street defense.

Mixed Martial Arts(MMA) - 3.75. I give MMA a higher rating purely because it is well rounded and used to contact. It often has Thai, Judo, BJJ, and Wrestling in it, which means it is well rounded. However, this rating, if it was to take into account human personality, would be much lower. Many MMA fighters rush into fights, hoping that their training will help them out, however MMA is purely sport and often fighters forget this. Also, many people claim to do MMA, but have very poor abilities. In a perfect world MMA gets a 3.75, however, taking in humans I would give it a 3.25.

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Op maandag 27 september 2010 06:46 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
En daarom zijn kicks waardeloos in een streetfight:

MOOSE VS MANA

4 kicks en elke keer verliest hij z'n balans en krijgt hij een paar beuken op z'n hoofd als counter.
_{uitzondering: de enige wel nuttige trap is de forward kick}

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http://www.mmafighting.co(...)nd-worst-of-ufc-119/

Falling Action: Best and Worst of UFC 119

Sometimes I feel like MMA fans, much like MMA judges, are afflicted with a disease that makes us place undue importance on whatever we saw last.

That would explain why a takedown in the final minute of the round is somehow enough to negate all the punches a fighter took in the first minute, and also why many fans are talking about UFC 119 this morning as if it was the biggest waste of their money since "Waterworld."

What we saw on Saturday night was an exciting undercard eclipsed by an anti-climactic main event. Whatever highs we may have been riding after watching guys like Sean Sherk and Evan Dunham go at it were obliterated by the time we got to round two of Frank Mir vs. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic. And since that was the last thing we saw before turning off the TV and trudging angrily off to the bed or the bar, it understandably left some people feeling cheated.

But at the risk of sounding like your overly peppy coworker on this Monday morning, let's look on the bright side. We got to see several good fights from Indianapolis on Saturday night, even if we didn't see them in ascending order. I swear, some nights the main event feels too much like New Year's Eve. We put so much pressure on it to be better than every other night, there's almost no way for it not to feel like a disappointment.

Of course, Mir and Cro Cop seem to throw an especially crappy New Year's Eve party -- the kind where by 11 pm everyone has come up with an excuse to leave -- but that's not the point. What I'm saying is, let's not ignore all the guys who fought well on Saturday just because of a couple guys who didn't. That's all.

Now let's take a look at the big winners, losers, and everything in between after UFC 119.

Biggest Winner: Evan Dunham
Before you furiously hammer out that angry email, yes, I realize that Dunham did not technically win on Saturday night. I also realize that I don't care, because he still had the most impressive performance. Exactly how judges Cecil Peoples and Glenn Trowbridge managed to see it 29-28 for Sherk, I'll never know. He did a good job either fighting off Sherk's takedowns or getting back to his feet in rounds two and three, and in the late going he absolutely battered Sherk on the feet. For some perspective on what that means, Sherk has never been beaten by anyone who was not either a current or future UFC champion. Giving a guy like that all he can handle is no small accomplishment. Whether the judges saw it or not, that's a performance Dunham should be proud of.

Biggest Loser: Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic
He was tentative on the feet and languid in the clinch, but perhaps most distressingly, he didn't seem to care. Even heading into the third round after clearly losing the first two plodding frames, there was zero sense of urgency on Cro Cop's part. It was as if he was content to go through the motions, right up until he caught by a knee to the chin. No one can denigrate what this man has accomplished in the sport over the course of his career, but these days he seems like he's just getting in there to collect paychecks. That's a bad idea. Especially in the UFC.

Best Walking Advertisement for Wrestling Programs Everywhere: Ryan Bader
It may not have been the most dominating performance we've ever seen from him, but Bader's win over Antonio Rogerio Nogueira demonstrated the value of being able to take the fight to mat whenever you feel like it. Give him credit, he was willing to mix it up on the feet with Little Nog quite a bit. But whenever he felt like it wasn't going his way he always had the option of putting the Brazilian on his back. That might have saved the day for him in the third round, and maybe even earned him a very tough showdown with Jon Jones. Talk about a prize most people wouldn't want to win...

Least Impressive in Victory: Frank Mir
How is it that, with all the work he's done on his wrestling, Mir couldn't get Cro Cop to the mat after two and a half rounds of trying? I realize much of his work has probably been on defending takedowns, since that seems like the only way he'll have any hope of ever reclaiming the UFC heavyweight title, but still. Mir spent all night pressing Cro Cop into the fence and waiting for Herb Dean to split them up. If he thinks that's the kind of performance that will send him rocketing up the ranks, he's kidding himself. The knockout at the end almost saved the fight, but coming as it did in the final minute, it just felt like a good scene that comes at the end of a very long and very boring movie. By that point so many people have walked out or fallen asleep, it hardly matters.

Best Worst Game Plan: Matt Serra
Serra is right to wonder what kind of idiot chooses to stand and bang with Lytle, despite a significant disadvantage in height and striking skill. At the same time, aren't you glad Serra is that kind of idiot? The alternative would be to try and smother Lytle against the cage (we've seen how popular that strategy is) or spend all night trying to get him to the mat, only to run into a likely stalemate once it gets there. This way, maybe Serra took a beating, but at least he also put on a show. It didn't do his face any favors, but so what? When you've got as much personality as Serra does, who needs to be pretty?

Worth Keeping a Close Eye On: Matt Mitrione
Obviously he still has some improvements to make, but he's about as good of a 3-0 fighter as you're likely to find in any organization right now. I'd still like to see how he'd do against a strong wrestler, since that does seem to be the litmus test that determines whether you've got a real future in the UFC heavyweight division, but that will come in time. For now, "Meathead" seems to be developing into a genuinely interesting future prospect, which is kind of weird, considering he's already 32. And by the way, the next time you want to break up with your agent, maybe Spike TV isn't the best venue. A simple phone call will do. Though no text message or email. Not unless you've been on less than three dates. That's the rule.

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2010 22:49 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Struve signs new contract, 4 fight deal

En Kimo die van drie hoog naar beneden spring in zwembad

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 00:11 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Z� plant je een elleboog neer op je tegenstander:

Nick "Afrozilla" Gaston vs. Darrill Schoonover

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Dana White Questions Frank Mir’s Heart After Lackluster Performance
http://www.fightofthenigh(...)kluster-performance/

The biggest story to emerge from UFC 119 appears to be the rapidly escalating feud between UFC president Dana White and former heavyweight champion Frank Mir.

As we’ve reported over the last couple of days White has been quick to voice his disapproval of Mir’s overall performance on Saturday night, and has even gone as far as to intentionally snub the fighter’s entitlement to the ‘Knockout Of The Night’ award.

Fans and family members of Mir have suggested that White has a personal grudge against him, and judging by his latest quotes he’s certainly not pulling any punches, questioning Mir’s heart.

“I have no clue about Frank. To talk the stuff he does, and then fight like he fought, that’s a little frustrating,” ESPN report White as having said in the aftermath of the fight. “Once “Cro Cop” stuffed his takedown attempt, his heart fell out on the floor. If Frank Mir can’t bully you, his heart shrinks to the size of the Grinch’s. If he can’t take you down, his heart shrinks to the size of a pea.”

White even went as far as to suggest that Mir’s job in the UFC is not safe if he continues to perform like that.

“Sure. You really, really need to show up and deliver. This is a job.”

“You go to your job and don’t perform; what will happen? And when people say, ‘Hey, these guys put their lives on the line,’ that’s a crock of s—. This sport is so safe. These guys have chosen to be fighters!

“These guys aren’t going in to Afghanistan. The US military puts their life on the line. Police, firefighters walk into the line of fire … UFC fighters do not. These are smart guys with college educations. If they don’t want to do this, go out and get a real job.”

I think White is being a little heavy-handed here.

To be fair though he did also say after Anderson Silva’s lackluster performance against Demian Maia at UFC 112 that he would release him if he ever performed like that again.

Silva had a history of similar performances though, such as in his fights with Patrick Cote and Thales Leites.

Mir’s situation seems different to me. This was undeniably a very poor performance, but he did end it in spectacular fashion, and in fact when you look back at his recent record his last five wins have all ended impressively inside the distance.

Of course he did get dominated by both Lesnar and Carwin in amongst those wins, but name a fighter who hasn’t been against those two giants of the division.

It also takes two to tango. It seems that White’s focus has been solely on Mir, but Cro Cop is as much to blame for the performance as he is, and unlike Mir his other recent performances have also been a disappointment.

So there definitely seems to be something more to this story, perhaps stemming back to Mir’s controversial comments earlier in the year stating that he’d like to see his nemesis Brock Lesnar die in the cage.

White didn’t take kindly to those remarks, and if there’s one thing we know about Dana it’s that he’s not afraid to get into a public feud with fighters in the UFC as Tito Ortiz, Rampage Jackson, Josh Koscheck and many more will testify.

It should be noted that despite their differences the aforementioned fighters all still fight in the promotion though, and realistically I don’t think White will end up cutting Mir any time soon.

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Frank Mir’s Son Puts Dana White On Blast After UFC 119 Bonus Snub
http://www.fightofthenigh(...)blast-after-ufc-119/

Dana White made a controversial move last night when he opted not to award Frank Mir the ‘Knockout Of The Night’ bonus despite the fact his last minute KO of Mirko Cro Cop in the main event of UFC 119 was the only one on the entire card.

Mir admitted himself that despite the KO he was disappointed with his own performance in what was undeniably an extremely lackluster fight, and he made no mention of being overlooked for the $70,000 bonus after the fight.

If Frank Mir’s son Marcus’ angry comments on twitter since the fight are anything to go by then it seems that behind the scenes the Mir family are fuming about the snub.

“wow i cant believe my dad @thefrankmir didnt get knockout of the night!!”

“f*ck that sh*t dude! no knockout of the night?! thats some damn bullsh*t! !”

“no KO of the night! i bet if cro cock got a last minute KO hed get KO of the night”

“even if you dont like someone, you cant do that to a fighter who trained soo hard and went out and knocked out a legend in the sport!!”

“@danawhite is just trying to blow this whole thing off but i know hes mad that @thefrankmir KO one of the best in the sport so hes srugglin to handle that fact right now!!! so let him drive away on his lil yellow lambo an keep hatin!! hes mad he will never get a chance to get in the cage and do what these guys do!! so lets enjoy ourselves and let him hate!”

Frank Mir has still stayed silent on the matter, but both his wife Jennifer and the ‘Team Mir’ twitter accounts also expressed some disbelief at the decision, though in less heated terms than his son.

So far Dana White has shown no indication of backing down on the matter though, telling one fan:

“You think mir should be bonused for that AMAZING performance last nite! Lmfao!”

There have been signs for a while that their relationship has been somewhat strained. Earlier in the year Mir had made a comment stating he hoped his nemesis Brock Lesnar would die in the octagon. Needless to say that didn’t go down to well with White who forced the fighter to make a public apology.

Shortly afterwards Mir was relieved from his co-commentator duties at the UFC’s sister promotion the WEC, though Zuffa denied it was a direct response to the comments.

The bonus snub certainly doesn’t help to mend any bridges, and Mir’s son’s heated comments have the potential to widen the rift between them even further.

Update:

Marcus Mir has now sent out another message on twitter apologizing for his irate remarks in the wake of Dana White’s decision.

“I apologize for my inappropriate language towards dana white,just mad that the first fight that doesnt get KO of the night happens to my dad”

It appears that his twitter account has since been deleted. Looks like his dad might have had a word with him about it before he caused any further damage.

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Gary Goodridge Explains Why He Walked Out on MFL Fight Saturday Night Moments Before the Bell
http://www.mmafighting.co(...)d-for-new-years-eve/

When news first broke that UFC veteran Gary Goodridge stood up former The Ultimate Fighter Season 2 contestant Tom Murphy for their MFL fight this weekend in Montreal, rumors started circulating about why "Big Daddy" walked out of the arena minutes before the main event bout.

CagePotato.com spoke with Goodridge last night and the MMA veteran explained why he went AWOL Saturday night.

According to 44-year-old Barie, Ontario, Canada resident, the event's promoter, Dirk Waardenburg promised to pay him double what the commission was to be told he made for the fight, with 50 percent to be paid in cash prior to the bout and the remainder to be paid via check after the event.

When Waardenburg continued to make excuses all night why he couldn't pay yet, Goodridge says he confronted the promoter about their agreed upon financial terms that were not met and he was told that because of poor attendance, he would only get 20 percent and could take it or leave it.

"All night I kept asking [Waardenburg] where my money was and he kept saying he couldn't pay me because there were too many people around. I was like, 'Why can't we go into a bathroom or something?' you know? Finally, I'd had enough and I talked to him just before they were about to announce the fight and I told him I wasn't going out there unless he paid me," Goodridge recalls. "He gave me 20 percent of what he promised me and he told me he couldn't afford to pay me the rest. I handed it back to him and I told him I wasn't going to fight unless they came up with all of it. "

Never one to be pushed around, Goodridge didn't want a repeat of the non-payment issue he had with K-1 this year for his New Year's Eve fight with Gegard Mousasi and he says he had a bad feeling about what would have happened if he fought without his money in his hand.

"After what happened to me in Japan, I didn't want to risk it. Even if it were a sure win, it's about the principle of it. I wasn't going to go out there with a smile on my face and pretend everything was great and get punched in the head and fight my heart out for them when they treated me the way they did, and end up looking like an idiot," he says. "Because it wasn't on record, there would have been nothing I could do to prove what he owed me. I'd have no recourse. I feel bad for leaving Tom hanging like that, but I wasn't going to be taken advantage of. He thought because the commission had already checked me and my gloves were on, that he had me and I was stuck fighting without having to pay me what was owed to me. He thought he had me backed into a corner and I wasn't going to be backed into a corner."

Waardenburg told TopMMANews.com that he was unsure why Goodridge didn't fight, but insinuated it was stress related.

Goodridge trained for nine weeks for the bout and even cut weight for the first time in his career to fight at a heavyweight "catchweight" of 220 pounds -- another situation he says just didn't seem right from the start.

"When I signed the contract, I was told it was a heavyweight bout, which was fine since I was around 253 [pounds] at the time and I wouldn't have to cut any weight. Then they call me and they tell me I have to get down to 215 and I was like, "Why do I have to cut if it's a heavyweight bout and I'm within the limit?" They told me it's going to be a catchweight bout so I have to get down to 215, but I was stuck at 240 so they made it for 220. I worked my ass off to cut the weight, training and dieting," Goodridge explains. "I've never had to diet in my life, but I did it because I needed the money. I knew if I could get down to 217, I would be okay no matter what scale they used. Knowing what I went through to make weight and how hard I prepared for the fight, it made for a tough decision, but I think I did the right thing. I fucking spent nine weeks training for this fight and I'm sure my opponent trained just as hard. I left my family and my kids to do this. That 20 percent would have helped me a lot and I probably shouldn't have given it back since it wasn't on the books, but I'm honest."

Now Goodridge, faces the reality that the money he should have earned for the fight isn't there and the back bills that the cash was earmarked for won't get paid, which makes his MFL experience even more of a bitter pill to swallow.

"I'm broke. I'm just looking for a job. I'll do security or work in a factory -- anything. I need to get a good job, so wherever I can find one, I'll take it," Goodridge says. "That money would have paid my bills, man. My cell phone is getting cut off and I can't even afford to pay my mortgage."


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Gary Goodridge Says He Still Hasn't Been Paid for New Year's Eve Bout in Japan
http://www.mmafighting.co(...)d-for-new-years-eve/

It's a little more than eight months since MMA veteran Gary Goodridge fought Gegard Mousasi at FEG's Dynamite!! 2009 New Year's Eve show in Japan. Eight months, and still he hasn't seen a single penny of the money he's owed for that bout, Goodridge told MMA Fighting earlier Wednesday.

"I'm pissed off. I'm fed up. I want my money," said the 44-year-old Goodridge. "Of course, you're like any other fighter at first, you stay quiet. You think, I stake my reputation and my whole career with these people. Of course they're gonna pay. Of course they're gonna pay, since my whole livelihood came from them in the last 13 years. Now it's eight months and it's quite obvious I'm not getting paid. So I'm going to open my mouth now."

Goodridge, who accepted the New Year's Eve bout on less than a week's notice, made no secret of the fact that he was only taking the fight for financial reasons. After losing via first-round TKO at the Saitama Super Arena, he told reporters that he was looking for a full-time job so he could get out of the fight game for good.

"I was going broke looking for a job," Goodridge said in this SI.com story shortly after the New Year's Eve fight. "I got a load of bills that need paying. When I got the call [to fight Mousasi] I thought, 'Thank God.' Now I can pay some bills."

Only now it's August and the $30,000 Goodridge said he was promised by FEG, the parent company of both Dream and K-1, hasn't materialized. Calls to FEG have gone unanswered and unreturned, Goodridge said, and so far the organization has seemed content to ignore him altogether.

"They just won't respond to any emails," said Goodridge's manager, Steve Rusich, who stressed that he did not book this particular fight for Goodridge. "We had a lawyer contact them and they wouldn't respond to him, either. We've heard nothing. Not, 'I'll pay you later.' Not, 'Can you give us some time and I'll give you a little something to tide you over.' Nothing. Zero response," Rusich added.

Rusich acknowledged that getting paid for fights in Japan, where there are no athletic commissions to ensure that promoters make good on their promises, sometimes takes as long as 60 or even 90 days. But never before has he had a fighter who didn't get paid at all, Rusich said.

"Japan has these other rules, but they pay a little more so we accept it. I find myself fronting money to my fighters sometimes because I trust that FEG always comes through. [FEG USA representative] Mike Kogan is fantastic. He always comes through. But in Gary's case, I don't know. It's a bad deal, because he was in some hard times where he just couldn't afford to float the money, let alone not get it at all."

Kogan told MMA Fighting on Wednesday afternoon that he didn't personally handle Goodridge's contract for the New Year's Eve fight, but would check with the FEG offices in Japan to find out what the situation was. As of the time of this writing, there's been no further response from FEG.

Calls to several other fighters on the same fight card also went unreturned, though Goodridge claims he's not the only one who has yet to receive his show money from the New Year's Eve event.

Even after declaring himself "done" following the Mousasi fight, Goodridge has continued taking fights in small promotions because, as he puts it, he has no other way to earn a living.

"Everybody is against it. I'm 44 years old. I should not fight again. I know I shouldn't. But I have to get paid. I'm trying to get a job. But in the meantime I have to get paid, and people take advantage of you."

The way Goodridge sees it, his current predicament with FEG only highlights the need for some form of athletic commission or regulatory body to oversee the Japanese MMA scene.

"You need athletic commissions, because here's a company I've worked for pretty much my entire career. And I've worked for the Japanese public my entire career. 99% of my career has been spent working with the Japanese, and now they screw me like this? I left my family, went all the way over there on New Year's Eve to fight for them for nothing? Come on. I'm worth a little more than that."

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 07:34 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Een duidelijk link posten is meer dan genoeg, die lange artikelen zuigen in een topic

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 15:06 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:
Struve zien we ook nog en tijdje!
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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 15:19 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:
Gemist don't shoot me

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 15:39 schreef Paxlie het volgende:
in quotes hoeft wat mij betreft ook niet. Hooguit een stukje eruit. Beetje nutteloos om dit topic helemaal vol te flikkeren met complete nieuwsposts van andere sites

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 07:34 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Een duidelijk link posten is meer dan genoeg, die lange artikelen zuigen in een topic

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 17:22 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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Hmmm.... idd, ziet er klote uit. Gelijk maar die quote tip toegepast, thanks!

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 15:06 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:
Het verhaal Overeem-Federor:

Fedor Emelianenko: Alistair Overeem keeps finding excuses not to fight me
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Gevolgd door:

Overeem's manager: "M1 & Fedor are a joke"
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Leuke over en weer verhaal...

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Op donderdag 30 september 2010 09:01 schreef DanHardy het volgende:
Ik ga hem toch in huis halen. Ik kijk er al een tijdje naar uit namelijk. Daarnaast vond ik de laatste ufc game nogal tegenvallen.

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Op donderdag 30 september 2010 09:57 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

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ik zou eerst de demo spelen. Er zat echt 0,0 gevoel bij.

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Op donderdag 30 september 2010 13:22 schreef DanHardy het volgende:
Edgar vs maynard @ ufc125

ik loop nog niet over van enthousiasme...

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Op donderdag 30 september 2010 13:19 schreef DanHardy het volgende:

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valt hij zo tegen dan??? De previews waren enigzins hoopvol

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Op woensdag 29 september 2010 17:22 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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Hmmm.... idd, ziet er klote uit. Gelijk maar die quote tip toegepast!
Interessante nieuwtjes gooi ik het liefst hier neer om de lezers die extra click te besparen en om quoten makkelijker te maken.

Maar ik zal er voortaan op letten

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Op vrijdag 1 oktober 2010 11:26 schreef Opgezwollenlever het volgende:

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Ik zal ook nog even mijn mening geven. Ik vind het altijd wel plezierig als gewoon het hele verhaal hier staat gepost. Ik merk toch dat ik dat soort artikelen eerder lees dan dat ik op een link klik. En als het zoals in het voorbeeld gewoon interessante verhalen zijn is het voor mij geen probleem.

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Op vrijdag 1 oktober 2010 13:05 schreef roepdeman het volgende:
WEC was awesome! Ik heb bellator nog niet gezien, maar WEC left me waiting for more!

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Op vrijdag 1 oktober 2010 12:51 schreef Hoogstaande het volgende:

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Bookmark dan gewoon een MMA nieuwssite in je browers dit topic is geen nieuws topic maar discussieer topic

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Op vrijdag 1 oktober 2010 18:50 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:

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Nee hoor, maar niet iedereen kan meteen kijken en als je dan ��n of twee dagen niet dingen verpest voor anderen is dat een kleine moeite.

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Op zaterdag 2 oktober 2010 12:31 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
G*DV*RD*MM*

blijf weg op de MMA sites.. spoilers van K-1 druppelen binnen

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Op zaterdag 2 oktober 2010 12:49 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Wat had je dan verwacht?

Iedereen kijken btw, zeer de moeite waard!

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Op zaterdag 2 oktober 2010 12:49 schreef Fyodor het volgende:

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Wat had je dan verwacht?

Iedereen kijken btw, zeer de moeite waard!

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 07:18 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

Joe Rogan demonstrates the turning side kick

Dude kicht hard, hot damn.

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 07:18 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

Joe Rogan demonstrates the turning side kick

Dude kicht hard, hot damn.

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Op maandag 4 oktober 2010 03:22 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
Ryan Bader vs. Jon Jones targeted for UFC 127 in February

2 jonge ongeslagen light heavyweights mogen samen uitvechten wie de beste is

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 07:18 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

Joe Rogan demonstrates the turning side kick

Dude kicht hard, hot damn.

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 15:26 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:
Mooi om te zien dat Rogan het zelf ook doet en dus weet waar ie het over heeft, heb ik bij andere commentatoren wel eens twijfel over (zeker die gasten van RTL)

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 19:07 schreef -_Tommy_- het volgende:

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Er is trainen en trainen.

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 22:20 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

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er is trainen en dan is er een zwarte band hebben. Compleet verschillend niveau. In zijn podcasts is hij ook ale eens losgegaan op commentatoren die er geen fuck van snapten en maar iets roepten.

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Op dinsdag 5 oktober 2010 22:20 schreef Paxlie het volgende:

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er is trainen en dan is er een zwarte band hebben. Compleet verschillend niveau. In zijn podcasts is hij ook ale eens losgegaan op commentatoren die er geen fuck van snapten en maar iets roepten.

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Op woensdag 6 oktober 2010 16:27 schreef Happel het volgende:
Struve tegen Sean McCorkle bij UFC 124. Moeilijke tegenstander voor Stefan.

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Tonight going to Paul de Leeuw show, famous dutch presentor of a tv show, good PR for the sport and K-1, my job is to support it!

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Op woensdag 6 oktober 2010 18:24 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
Ik zou hem bijna niet meer herkennen

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Tonight: Overeem @ Paul de Leeuw
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22:00 uur @ NED3 denk ik dan..

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Op woensdag 6 oktober 2010 16:27 schreef Happel het volgende:
Struve tegen Sean McCorkle bij UFC 124. Moeilijke tegenstander voor Stefan.

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Op donderdag 7 oktober 2010 00:42 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
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Op donderdag 7 oktober 2010 16:02 schreef Tazmaniac het volgende:
DEEP middleweight champion, Riki Fukuda (17-4), has signed with the UFC.

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Op donderdag 7 oktober 2010 00:42 schreef Hooidraad het volgende:
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Op donderdag 7 oktober 2010 18:47 schreef Johan_Haas_ het volgende:

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hoe heette die uitzending?
Wil wel ff terugkijken.

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Op donderdag 7 oktober 2010 18:47 schreef Johan_Haas_ het volgende:

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hoe heette die uitzending?
Wil wel ff terugkijken.