[Centraal] Crisis in Syri� #222

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:41 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Onzin, als de VS de rebellen zware wapens kan geven, dan is het gedaan met ISIS en daarna met Assad.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:43 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Lol zo makkelijk gaat dat niet, ze krijgen echt geen pantservoertuigen enzo mee.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:45 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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Zuid west Kobane heeft de YPG weer verloren aan IS. Hetzelfde als een groot deel van het Oosten van Kobane. En paar weken geleden had de YPG ruim meer dan de helft. Nu lijkt het weer 50%.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:48 schreef theunderdog het volgende:
Al meer dan 100 canadezen vechten mee met de Koerden tegen de varkens van ISIS.

Syrian Child Preacher: Men Should Stop Chasing Half-Naked Women and Go for the Virgins of Paradise

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:44 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Hoeft ook niet. ISIS stelt geen moer voor tegen een groep dat goede wapens heeft, en het SAA is in principe ook een lachertje.

Als de VS een einde wil maken aan deze verschikkingen dan doen ze dat, maar de coalitie geniet nog teveel.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:51 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Dat komt omdat het moraal van die rebellen niet goed is. Het is een schande dat ze zo makkelijk buit kunnen maken. Vandaar dat ik er ook niet voor ben om nu die rebellen te steunen.

Maar het principe van een groep steunen om een andere groep te vernietigen is goed. Maar goed, het allerbeste was geweest als de VS zich er gewoon niet had mee bemoeid.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:53 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Het principe van rebellen steunen ja. Ik had misschien beter kunnen zeggen dat ik het spijtig vind dat de VS er niet mee KAN beginnen.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:57 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Ja dus? dan mag ik het toch wel spijtig vinden?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 13:01 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Geen onthoofdingsbeelden meer?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 13:00 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Uiteraard, maar het draait waarschijnlijk uit op een patstelling. De komende tijd zal vrij rustig worden.

De SAA zal nog significante winst boeken, de YPG houdt de jihadisten buiten de deur, en ISIS zal nog weinig terrein weten te winnen.

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arabthomness twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 14:58:38 #Syria BREAKING: #IS fighters have captured the Bir Qassab area near #Damascus meaning they're back in #RifDimasq http://t.co/YqXXRWucda reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 15:23 schreef Happel het volgende:

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IS schijnt wel net een gebied in de buurt van Damascus te hebben verovert?

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arabthomness twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 14:58:38 #Syria BREAKING: #IS fighters have captured the Bir Qassab area near #Damascus meaning they're back in #RifDimasq http://t.co/YqXXRWucda reageer retweet

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arabthomness twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 14:59:26 #Syria: #IS media shows a tank they claim to have captured from #IF rebels in Bir Qassab. #Damascus http://t.co/iZ8pU8TUMP reageer retweet

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deSyracuse twitterde op dinsdag 25-11-2014 om 11:54:28 NEW MAP of Zahraa & Nubl in #Aleppo following #IF & #Nusra offensive http://t.co/p9kjuMXyXT http://t.co/9ognlOt8XU reageer retweet

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Qatar runs covert desert training camp for Syrian rebels

(Reuters) - At a desert base, Gulf state Qatar is covertly training moderate Syrian rebels with U.S. help to fight both President Bashar al-Assad and Islamic State and may include more overtly Islamist insurgent groups, sources close to the matter say.

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Syria conflict: Raqqa air strikes death toll rises

_{26 November 2014 Last updated at 13:38 GMT}



Almost 100 people are now believed to have died in a series of government air strikes on the Islamic State-held city of Raqqa on Tuesday, activists say.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 52 civilians were killed.

One activist from Raqqa told the BBC the only hospital still functioning in the city was finding it difficult to cope with the dozens of wounded.

Syrian government and US-led coalition aircraft frequently bomb Raqqa, which IS took full control of in January.

The group has since made the city capital of the caliphate it proclaimed in June and governs it according to a strict interpretation of Islamic law.

'Massacre'
Activists said that in Tuesday's air raids, government warplanes targeted at least nine sites, including a popular market near Raqqa's museum.

Most of the casualties were caused by two strikes in quick succession on the industrial area near the train station. The Syrian Observatory said people who rushed to help those wounded by the first were caught up in the second.

The UK-based group said the air strikes had killed at least 95 people, among them three women and four children. It could not confirm whether the 43 dead not listed as civilians were IS militants, but said some of the strikes took place near the jihadist group's positions.

People inspect body bags after what activists said was a series of Syrian government air strikes on 25 November 2014

The Local Co-ordination Committees, an opposition activist network, condemned what it called "another massacre by regime forces".

It said it had been able to document 87 deaths, and warned that more might die because of a "severe shortage of drugs, medical equipment and medical staff".

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جانب من المجزرة التي وقعت بالمدنييين جراء قصف الطيران الحربي على مدينة الرقة +18

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 13:08 schreef theunderdog het volgende:
Foto,s van dode Peshmerga soldaten :

http://manbar.me/5yj9s

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:41 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Man o man. Die Peshmerga met al hun wapens en trainingen achter de rug worden nog steeds gewalst alsof ze niks zijn. Ziet er niet zo veel belovend uit als ik het zo bekijk. Als er geen bufferzone komt vanuit NATO dan kunnen ze hun semi-staatje binnenkort opdoeken.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:47 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Peshmerga stelt sowieso niets voor.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:51 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Kobane leeft anders nog steeds, schijnbaar valt het toch tegen om een paar Koerden te verslaan.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:05 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said at least 52 civilians were killed.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:59 schreef Toga het volgende:

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We zijn toch niet vergeten wie dat was h�?
Ik blijf nog een beetje kritisch over het nieuws komende uit dit ��nmanshuiskamertje in Londen..

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IvanSidorenko1 twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 11:23:41 #Syria #TwitterKurds New Video of #FSA "North SunBrigade, Dawn of Freedom Brigade " #Kobani #Kobane https://t.co/e4X18U9KDh reageer retweet

كتائب شمس الشمال الوية فجر الحرية كوباني 25- 11 -2014ومشاركة المقاتل دلخاس اليوناني

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rConflictNews twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 16:16:51 Greek fighter joins the #YPG to fight #ISIS in #Kobane http://t.co/9U0rXq0es4 reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:46 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Het oosten is nooit ISIS-vrij geweest, het zuidwesten is betwist gebied, de YPG voert daar operaties uit maar zit er niet permanent omdat er geen plekken zijn om te verblijven. Ik weet niet hoe jij er bij komt dat ISIS weg was uit Kobane, dit is namelijk onzin.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 18:08 schreef firefly3 het volgende:

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De kaart zag er igg heel anders uit. 70% voor de ypg, wat nu weer 50% is.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 18:27 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:41 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Man o man. Die Peshmerga met al hun wapens en trainingen achter de rug worden nog steeds gewalst alsof ze niks zijn. Ziet er niet zo veel belovend uit als ik het zo bekijk. Als er geen bufferzone komt vanuit NATO dan kunnen ze hun semi-staatje binnenkort opdoeken.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 12:52 schreef theunderdog het volgende:
http://www.dailystar.com.(...)l.ashx#axzz3KAtRlsKE

Syria 'no-fly zone' not being considered: NATO general

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 18:49 schreef primakov het volgende:

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Hey Mowgli,

Waarom reageer je hier niet op?

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Gooi ff die dailysabah bron neer dan waarbij Davutoglu werd beloofd ( ) door de VS dat die zone er zou komen.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 18:53 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Waarom?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 18:55 schreef primakov het volgende:

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Ik heb het tegen Atak, die heeft inmiddels al 44x een artikel van dailysabah (:') ) gepost waaruit zou blijken dat er een no-fly zone komt in Noord Syri�, dat hebben de Amerikanen namelijk persoonlijk beloofd aan Davutoglu.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:07 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Waar heb ik het belooft? Kan je mij citeren svp?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 18:40 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:

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Afvalcontainer ?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:11 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Lol, je hebt wel 100x bufferzone geroepen, daar hoort een no-flyzone ook bij.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:07 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Waar heb ik dat belooft? Kan je mij citeren svp?

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Op zaterdag 22 november 2014 16:44 schreef Atak het volgende:
Sommige mensen laten zich wel heel erg kennen op dit forum Gelukkig zijn het maar paar polder-Koerdjes die denken dat ze de beslissingen van wereldleiders zoals Obama en Davutoglu kunnen beinvloeden.

http://www.dailysabah.com(...)inish-off-assad-isis

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Op zaterdag 22 november 2014 15:56 schreef Atak het volgende:
IS is zo sterk geworden juist omdat er geen centrale overheid is. De VS en Turkije hebben al besloten om het FSA keihard te ondersteunen. Zij zullen tegengewicht zijn tegen ISIS, PKK/YPG en andere terroristische groeperingen. Ik denk dat de Soennitische Arabieren over een tijdje ook zullen stoppen met het supporten van ISIS als ze zien dat er een goeie alternatief is: het FSA. Heel veel van hen ondersteunde ISIS omdat ze geen keus hadden.

Plan van aanpak zal als volgt zijn.
1. Bezighouden van ISIS door PKK/YPG als kanonnenvoer te gebruiken.

2. Trainen en bewapenen van het FSA in Syri� en gevluchte Syri�rs in Turkije.

3. Bufferzone cre�ren in Noord-Syri�. Vandaar een offensief op Assad.

4. Wanneer Assad knock out is, consolideren en een centrale overheid implementeren.

5. Jacht openen op extremisten, separatisten en radicalen.

Het afbrokkelen en balkaniseren van de Levant zou een grote fout zijn. We hebben gezien waar dat naar toe kan leiden in de Balkan.

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Op zaterdag 22 november 2014 18:48 schreef Atak het volgende:
de VS en Turkije hebben een deal gemaakt

http://www.dailysabah.com(...)-erdogan-meets-biden

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Op zaterdag 22 november 2014 18:56 schreef Atak het volgende:

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http://www.dailysabah.com(...)he-ultimate-survival

Ik zou zeggen Turkije moet deal maken met Putin om Assad te ousten.In ruil belooft Turkije dat ze geen sancties gaan leggen op Rusland zoals de EU dat doet. Win-win situatie.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:17 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Ik ben nu ook tegen een bufferzone. Waarom zou NATO tussen twee schovies komen die elkaar afmaken? Laat ISIS en PKK/YPG elkaar de harses inslaan en elkaar verzwakken. Wanneer een kant schijnt te winnen. Zullen de NATO tanks Syri� binnenrollen. Het is beter dat NATO concentreert op het bewapenen en trainen van het FSA die het straks voor het zeggen krijgen. Al dat geld wordt niet voor niks uitgegeven.

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Turkey and the U.S. have narrowed the tactical differences on the training and equipping program for Free Syrian Army (FSA) fighters during U.S. Vice President Joe Biden's visit to Istanbul and the program is expected to be starting soon in the central Anatolian province of Kırşehir after the two sides finalize the deal. Ankara also announced on Monday that it has trained 230 peshmerga soldiers to fight the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) in the northern Syrian town of Kobani. Discussions over training and equipping moderate Syrian opposition fighters to defeat both ISIS and the Bashar Assad regime in Syria is expected to be finalized and the training will start in the central Anatolian town of Kırşehir after U.S. and Turkish officials finalize the deal. The issue of the training and equippment program was evaluated between Biden and President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan during their four-hour meeting on Saturday in Istanbul and the officials said that the two sides have narrowed their differences.

Furthermore, a high level source from the Foreign Ministry confirmed that U.S. and Turkish officials have reached an agreement and currently army officials from the two countries are working on tactical details. Thus, the training and equippment program for up to 2,000 FSA fighters will begin in the coming days.

Last September Congress approved U.S. President Barack Obama's plan to train and equip up to 5,000 FSA fighters and Turkey accepted to train up to 2,000 FSA fighters as part of the plan. Sources from the Foreign Ministry already confirmed Turkey's ongoing cooperation with the U.S and announced on Monday that Turkey has already trained 230 peshmerga fighters. According to the plan, the FSA will nominate members to be trained while the U.S. and Turkey will have the final say on who will ultimately be trained. The train and equip agreement will see Turkey training the selected FSA fighters while the U.S. will equip them.

Local media outlets also reported that as a result of recent meetings held between Turkish and U.S. officials, FSA members will be trained in the Hirfanlı district of the central Anatolian town of Kırşehir. Speaking on the issue on Tuesday, Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz did not deny that the training program will take place in Kırşehir, however, he said that the final deal is not signed yet and talks are continuing. Likewise, sources from the Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday that negotiations over the technical details between the military officials of the two countries are currently continuing and the final deal will be signed in the coming days.

Local sources from the Kırşehir province did not confirm the arrival of any FSA fighters to the town. Daily Sabah spoke with officials from Kırşehir governorate, but they declined to comment on this issue.

Erdoğan said on Saturday that Turkey is determined to strengthen its relationship with the U.S. to maintain regional peace and security. He made the comments in a joint press conference with Biden following a four-hour meeting.

"Our relations with the U.S. are based on mutual trust and benefit and are stronger than ever," Erdoğan said.

Biden underlined that Turkey is carrying a great burden by being a safe haven for more than 1.5 million refugees. He said, "Turkey and the U.S. are sharing the same policy towards the Syria crisis."

"We discussed with President Erdoğan what the coalition can do to defeat ISIS and we need Turkey's support. I think Turkey believes that they need us as well," Biden said.

Biden also announced that the U.S. will provide $135 million in humanitarian aid to help civilians affected by the Syrian war. The new funding will be provided to people inside Syria as well as Syrian refugees in Turkey and other neighboring countries.
http://www.dailysabah.com(...)nd-equip-fsa-with-us

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Plan van aanpak zal als volgt zijn.
1. Bezighouden van ISIS door PKK/YPG als kanonnenvoer te gebruiken.

2. Trainen en bewapenen van het FSA in Syri� en gevluchte Syri�rs in Turkije.

3. Bufferzone cre�ren in Noord-Syri�. Vandaar een offensief op Assad.

4. Wanneer Assad knock out is, consolideren en een centrale overheid implementeren.

5. Jacht openen op extremisten, separatisten en radicalen.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:28 schreef Atak het volgende:
Ik ben tegen een bufferzone voor nu. Laat het kannonenvoer lekker het werk maar laten doen. Als terroristische organisaties elkaar uitputten is dat alleen beter voor het FSA die klaargestoomd worden en training krijgen as we speak.

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NATO heeft:
-Alleen 230 Peshmergaatjes getraind
-5000 FSA zullen training krijgen, (waarschijnlijk meer)
-1.5 miljoen Syri�rs die straks teruggaan naar Syrie en de macht gaan eisen.
-Terroristische groeperingen die opportunistisch hebben gehandeld of samengewerkt hebben met Assad zal een jachtseizoen op geopend worden.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:29 schreef primakov het volgende:

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Dailysabah Net zo objectief en serieus te nemen als jij.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:42 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Toch een bittere pil die je moet slikken. Niks aan te doen. Het FSA zal veel meer training krijgen van ons. Ook veel meer wapens. Je kan mij niet geloven. [b]Maar geloof je Obama ook niet? [/b]

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:48 schreef mr_jack het volgende:

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Nee nerd, je moet inderdaad niet geloven wat politici in de media roepen. Vaak doen ze achter de schermen wat anders. We zien al jaren de belofte aan FSA voor steun, training en wapens, maar het komt er maar niet van. Ja, vaak een pleistertje voor het bloeden als ze weer gaan schreeuwen, maar krijg het idee dat Obama het wel best vind.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 16:05 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
De Syrische luchtmacht is bezig Raqqa plat te gooien:

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جانب من المجزرة التي وقعت بالمدنييين جراء قصف الطيران الحربي على مدينة الرقة +18

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:42 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Het FSA zal veel meer training krijgen van ons. Ook veel meer wapens.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 19:58 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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Een belegering van raqqa op handen?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:01 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Wanneer dan? Ze mogen wel eens beginnen, voordat die rebellen klaar zijn ben je weer een half jaar verder. Ow wacht, ze gaan helemaal niet beginnen want Turkije en de VS hebben ruzie. Er worden geen rebellen meer getraind in Turkije, dat gaat namelijk in Qatar gebeuren. Erdo is aan de kant gezet door Obama omdat hij liegt en bedriegt en mag nu niet meer mee doen in deze kwestie. Jammer maar helaas.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:03 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Nee, er zijn geen troepen in de buurt van Raqqa. De SAA heeft het momenteel druk genoeg in Deir ez-Zor en al-Hasakah.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:16 schreef Atak het volgende:

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In Turkije en Qater worden ze getraind maar in Qatar worden ze ook door Turken getraind. Wat een faalhaas ben jij ook

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:16 schreef Senor__Chang het volgende:
Peshmerga, YPG, ISF zijn enkel maar aan het winnen d afgelopen weken. ISIS heeft haar hoogtepunt bereikt. Oud nieuws geworden.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:19 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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waarom deze aanvallen? want ik vind ze niet passen binnen het plaatje, sinds wanneer is raqqa een prio voor de saa???

ik vind het eerlijk gezegd niet eens zo ver gezocht als de vs en de assadisten bepaalde afspraken hebben gemaakt omtrent het bestrijden van isis en dat dit een onderdeel van is

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"Equip and train the Free Syrian Army so that if ISIL leaves, the regime should not come, so that if ISIL leaves, PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) terrorists should not come," Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said in an interview with the BBC.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:22 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Laten zien wie er de baas is in Syri�, ISIS zich klein en nietig laten voelen. Ze mogen dan wel wat steden en een stuk woestijn hebben veroverd, in de lucht is de regering nog steeds de baas. Daarnaast proberen ze natuurlijk de nodige schade aan te brengen om ze te verzwakken.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:24 schreef Atak het volgende:

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We moeten er toch aan geloven jongens.

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Is niet zo handig. Er vallen alleen maar heel veel burgerslachtoffers. ISIS gebruikt dan weer de woede van de mensen daar om steun te krijgen.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:31 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Raqqa wordt waarschijnlijk als verloren beschouwd, wat zich daar afspeelt maakt geen donder meer uit.

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:35 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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waarom dan toch je schaarse middelen daar inzetten? past niet binnen het plaatje

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Conflict_Report twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:22:35 It's all over soon in #Aleppo.#Assad can advance with its ally #IS holding fire east of the city.map: @PetoLucem http://t.co/U1VFqDqo2j reageer retweet

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Conflict_Report twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:28:55 Also the years long ceasefire between #YPG and the #Assad regime in Sheikh Maqsood is remarkable and helping the butcher... reageer retweet

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rConflictNews twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:22:13 #ISIS says they are set to execute 90 #SAA prisoners tomorrow in #Raqqa, #Syria via @ArmedResearch reageer retweet

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IvanSidorenko1 twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 21:04:01 #Syria #Homs #SAA #NDF killed "Mohammed Hassan Hamid" A #ISIS Emir and Military Commander @ vicinity of #Shaer Field. http://t.co/80jKTlhdoK reageer retweet

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IvanSidorenko1 twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 21:08:01 #Syria #EastGhouta Hosein Mortada reports that #SAA ambushed a group of gunmen near #Midaa killing 30 of them. http://t.co/Z9p3HGOTFB reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:24 schreef Atak het volgende:
"Equip and train the Free Syrian Army so that if ISIL leaves, the regime should not come, so that if ISIL leaves, PKK (Kurdistan Workers’ Party) terrorists should not come," Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said in an interview with the BBC.

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RamiAlLolah twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:37:53 #ISIS bombarding #Turkey #Syria border crossing in #Kobani.. http://t.co/y48DdjJX1o reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 20:20 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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ISF?

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 22:03 schreef Atak het volgende:
Dat zijn pas dikke mortiergranaten.

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RamiAlLolah twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:37:53 #ISIS bombarding #Turkey #Syria border crossing in #Kobani.. http://t.co/y48DdjJX1o reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 21:57 schreef .Exe het volgende:
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Op woensdag 26 november 2014 22:03 schreef Atak het volgende:
Dat zijn pas dikke mortiergranaten.

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RamiAlLolah twitterde op woensdag 26-11-2014 om 20:37:53 #ISIS bombarding #Turkey #Syria border crossing in #Kobani.. http://t.co/y48DdjJX1o reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 00:54 schreef theunderdog het volgende:
Stel je voor dat heel dat die onthoofdingfilmpjes van die westerse journalisten en van die 15 soldaten (die kapot nice was gemaakt), allemaal nep zou zijn?

Dan haat ik ISIS pas echt.

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BERLIN — Senior German lawmaker Philip Missfelder has expressed his happiness in his 2015 budget speech to the German Parliament that Germany has adopted a "red line" approach towards the PKK which has claimed more than 40,000 lives in Turkey.

Addressing the Bundestag on Wednesday, Chancellor Angela Merkel's foreign-policy spokesman Missfelder said: "I am very happy that we have a red line towards PKK and also we have not put any weapons at PKK's disposal against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant."

Germany is sending weapons to Kurdish forces known as peshmerga in northern Iraq and at least 32 high-ranking peshmerga fighters have been sent to Germany's state of Bavaria for weapons training.

Germany has also sent military supplies and equipment worth ?70 million to the Iraqi Kurdish Regional Government for fighting against ISIS.

"We need our ally Turkey as a key in the Middle East," said Missfelder, adding that Germany should take Turkey's warnings over the PKK into consideration.

The PKK has waged a three-decade insurgency in Turkey and is listed by the U.S. and the European Union as a terrorist organization.
http://www.dailysabah.com(...)red-line-towards-pkk

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 12:03 schreef Atak het volgende:
Dit zullen harde woorden zijn voor mensen uit bepaalde donkere hoeken. Eigenlijk ben ik het eens met Philip Missfelder. Alleen moest hij nog erbij vermeldde dat groeperingen die samenwerken met Assad, net zo schuldig zijn als Assad.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 12:42 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Schuldig waaraan? Hezbollah stond al op de terreurlijst dus dat zal ze weinig boeien als ze ergens van beschuldigd worden. Iedereen is schuldig, ook de FSA terroristen.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:34 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Argumentatie van niets dit .

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:31 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Nou haal je bepaalde dingen door elkaar. Je moet toch zorgvuldiger lezen. In principe zegt Duitsland. Er is geen verschil tussen PKK terroristen en ISIS. Beide zijn gelabeld als terreurorganisaties. Het FSA is niet zo gelabeld. Sorry.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:38 schreef Atak het volgende:
Dus wetgever Philip Missfelder is gek. Alleen jullie zijn geestelijk gezond.

Dat zijn gewoon keiharde woorden. Jullie zien maar hoe jullie deze bittere pil gaan slikken.

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A delegation from the Afrin Canton has held high level talks at the European Parliament.

The delegation, led by Afrin Canton Prime Minister Hevi Mustafa includes Foreign Minister S�leyman Cafer, Deputy Foreign Minister Cihan Muhammed and PYD European Executive Committee member Ibrahim Ibrahim. The HDP’s Council of Europe representative Faik Yağızay accompanied the delegation.

The Afrin Canton delegation held many meetings, including with the head of the European Parliament’s Foreign Relations Commission, Elmar Brok, Left Group President Gaby Zimmer and Green Group Co-President Rebecca Harms.

The delegation explained the inhumane measures perpetrated by gangs such as ISIS and the Al Nusra Front, and the effects of the de facto embargo on Afrin canton. They also explained the model of democratic autonomy created with different identities and communities and what they expect from Europe as they face threats and dangers.

The delegation issued a statement saying they had been received with great interest.

Following their meetings the delegation met people from Kurdistan at the Mesopotamia Culture Centre yesterday evening

The Afrin canton delegation is expected to continue its meetings today.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:40 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Terrorisme bestaat niet.

"It's like the definition didn't ever exist
I guess it's all just depending who your nemesis is"

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:41 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Zoals ik al zei, het is politiek correct gedoe. Recent is de de YPG nog in contact met het Europees Parlement geweest. Maar volgens jou zijn ISIS en PKK hetzelfde. Wanneer zien we ISIS-officials in Brussel verschijnen?

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Russian President Vladimir Putin met on Wednesday Deputy Prime Minister, Foreign and Expatriates Minister Walid al-Moallem in Sochi, Russia.

A statement by Kremlin said talks during the meeting dealt with Russian-Syrian relations.

Later, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov discussed with al-Moallem the bilateral relations between Syria and Russia.

Following talks, al-Moallem expressed satisfaction over the outcomes of his talks with President Putin and Minister Lavrov, announcing that President Putin affirmed Russia’s determination to cooperate with Syria and with President Bashar al-Assad in order to defeat terrorism and deepen the strategic partnership relations between both countries.

Al-Moallem said, at a press conference with Lavrov, the talks dealt with “the situation in the region and the conspiracy against Syria, that became well-known to all, by Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey” clarifying that he affirmed to the Russian leadership the Syrian peoples’ determination to combat terrorism.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:41 schreef Atak het volgende:

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PKK/YPG worden gebruikt als kanonnenvoer totdat het FSA leger klaar is. Hoe verklaar je dat het FSA allerlei zware wapens krijgen en training in Qatar en Turkije terwijl PKK helemaal niks krijgt? Daden spreken harder dan woorden.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:45 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:
Rusland gaat haar banden(oftewel haar grip) met (haar vazalstaat) Syrie versterken. Zelfde geldt voor Iran. Ziet er dus naar uit dat Syrie gewoon weer van de Ba'athisten zal worden.

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http://www.sana.sy/en/?p=19607

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:47 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Lekker betrouwbare bron . Iran en Rusland hebben hun handen vol. Rusland met NATO en de EU. En Iran met de VS. NATO heeft in principe vrijhand in Syri�. Het FSA zal uiteindelijk voor het zeggen hebben als je kijkt hoeveel er getraind wordt.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:53 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:
Wel ironisch dat Iran het meeste baat heeft gehad bij ISIS. Zuid-Irak en Zuid-Syrie zijn vazalstaten geworden van Iran.

Misschien ben ik wel gek, maar het zou zomaar kunnen dat Iran ISIS een warm handje toedraagt.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:31 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Nou haal je bepaalde dingen door elkaar. Je moet toch zorgvuldiger lezen. In principe zegt Duitsland. Er is geen verschil tussen PKK terroristen en ISIS. Beide zijn gelabeld als terreurorganisaties. Het FSA is niet zo gelabeld. Sorry.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:58 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Nou haal je bepaalde dingen door elkaar. Je moet toch zorgvuldiger lezen. Dit zegt ene Philip Missfelder, niet de Duitse regering. Dat is hetzelfde als Zijlstra of van Ojik hier wat roepen.

Plus dat je een Turkse bron hebt, als wij met Koerdische of Syrische bronnen aan zouden komen zou je gelijk op je achterste poten staan.

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Misschien ben ik wel gek

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:04 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Kan je lezen

"Addressing the Bundestag on Wednesday, Chancellor Angela Merkel's foreign-policy spokesman Missfelder said: "I am very happy that we have a red line towards PKK and also we have not put any weapons at PKK's disposal against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant."

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Reuters) - At a desert base, Gulf state Qatar is covertly training moderate Syrian rebels with U.S. help to fight both President Bashar al-Assad and Islamic State and may include more overtly Islamist insurgent groups, sources close to the matter say.

The camp, south of the capital between Saudi Arabia's border and Al Udeid, the largest U.S. air base in the Middle East, is being used to train the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and other moderate rebels, the sources said.

Reuters could not independently identify the participants in the programme or witness activity inside the base, which lies in a military zone guarded by Qatari special forces and marked on signposts as a restricted area.

But Syrian rebel sources said training in Qatar has included rebels affiliated to the “Free Syrian Army” from northern Syria.

The sources said the effort had been running for nearly a year, although it was too small to have a significant impact on the battlefield, and some rebels complained of not being taught advanced techniques.

The training is in line with Qatar's self-image as a champion of Arab Spring uprisings and Doha has made no secret of its hatred of Assad.

Small groups of 12 to 20 fighters are identified in Syria and screened by the Central Intelligence Agency, the sources said.

Once cleared of links with "terrorist" factions, they travel to Turkey and are then flown to Doha and driven to the base.

GROUND FORCE

"The U.S. wanted to help the rebels oust Assad but didn't want to be open about their support, so to have rebels trained in Qatar is a good idea, the problem is the scale is too small," said a Western source in Doha.

The CIA declined to comment, as did Qatar's foreign ministry and an FSA spokesman in Turkey.

It is not clear whether the Qatari programme is coordinated with a strategy of Western and Gulf countries to turn disparate non-Islamist rebel groups into a force to combat the militants.

Such efforts have been hampered by Western hesitancy about providing significant military aid, because it could end up with extremists. Gulf states dislike the West's emphasis on fighting Islamic State. Assad is the bigger problem, they say.

"Moderate rebels from the FSA and other groups have been flown in to get trained in things like ambush techniques," said a source close to the Qatari government who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the topic.

"The training would last a few months, maybe two or three, and then a new group would be flown in, but no lethal weapons were supplied to them," one of the sources said.

SCREENING PROCESS

As the war against Assad has dragged on, frustrated rebels asked their trainers for more advanced techniques, such as building improvised explosive devices (IEDs), requests which were always denied.

"They complain a lot and say that going back they need more weapons or more training in IEDs but that's not something that's given to them," said a Qatar-based defence source.

The Qatar project was conceived before the declaration of the hardline Islamic State, when militants belonging to its predecessor organisation were not regarded as an international security threat.

The group's rise in Syria and Iraq has hampered the rebellion: Moderate groups cannot fight Assad when the better-armed Islamic State seeks their destruction as it strives to build its "caliphate".

In recent weeks, the Qataris, disappointed by lack of progress in the fight against Assad, have started to consider training members of the Islamic Front, a coalition of Islamist rebels less militant than Islamic State or the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front, but stronger than the FSA.

None have been trained as yet, but Qatar has sought to identify candidates, the sources say.

Some analysts say screening Islamic Front fighters would be harder than FSA rebels, since some Islamists have switched between various groups.

ISLAMIST NETWORK

Training fighters from Islamic groups could displease fellow Gulf state the United Arab Emirates, which dislikes Qatar's support for the Muslim Brotherhood's international Islamist network.

But Saudi Arabia, which shares the UAE's mistrust of the Brotherhood, is more indulgent of moderate Islamist forces when it comes to fighting Assad, diplomats say.

Asked about the Qatari training, a Saudi defence source said: "We are not aware of this training camp, but there's one thing we agree on: Assad needs to go and we would not oppose any action taken towards that goal."

To Qatar, ousting Assad remains a priority and youthful Emir Sheikh Tamim has said that military efforts to tackle Islamic State will not work while the Syrian president remains in power.

A source who works with rebel groups said Qatar had delivered weapons, mostly mortar bombs, to the Islamic Front and some FSA brigades about two months ago and had paid some salaries for Islamic Front groups.

http://uk.reuters.com/art(...)dUKKCN0JA1C220141126

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:08 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:11 schreef Atak het volgende:
Gaat de juiste richting op. Geen woorden maar daden.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:12 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Dit postte ik gisteren al, toen zij je nog dat het onzin was.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:13 schreef Atak het volgende:

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En Reuters is dus ook geen goeie bron? Wat is dan wel goed? KurdistanNews.com?

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Turkey says FSA must be equipped and trained to rule in Kobani
This comes as no surprise. As I had stated on a Press TV interview last week, I expected the Turks to agree to let Kurdish reinforcements in, but would then tie the process up with “details” to drag it out to make time to push for what they really want.

Turkish PM Davutoglu tells us below that they will cooperate with air basing and putting FSA cannon fodder ground troops in to use against Assad.

So he wants to fight ISIL and Assad at the same time, and we are only talking 5000 newly trained FSA fighters over the first year, per Congressional testimony.

Dag’s solution to “saving” Kobani is to move a few hundred FAS people in and have them in effect be the guards of Kobani, which of course will not make the Kurds there very happy. And for leverage, we now hear that the Peshmerga coming in from Iraq will not be allowed to put troops in, only artillery support, which will be a big help.

But the Turks have shown all of their cards now. It is “our way, or the highway.” This is quite a hoot, as this move would keep the border open and under Erdogan’s control to supply both the FSA and ISIL, while pretending to be part of the coalition to wipe ISIL out. You just can’t make this stuff up!
http://www.veteranstoday.(...)d-to-rule-in-kobani/

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:57 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Er wordt al jaren geroepen dat Zuid-Irak een Iraanse provincie is geworden. Heel het zuiden zou vol hangen van foto's van Iraanse Ayatollahs en Iraanse vlaggen, iedereen zou Perzisch spreken en mensen betalen met de Iraanse Tuman/Rial. Niks van waar. Zo ook met Syrie en Libanon. Iran heeft als regionale macht belangen, en die verdedigen ze gewoon. Daarnaast zorgen ze voor de veiligheid van sjiieten in de regio.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:08 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Ondertussen gaat Duitsland gewoon door met het leveren van wapens en het trainen van Koerdische strijders. Dus zo spannend is het allemaal niet.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:18 schreef Atak het volgende:
Ouch! Al dat vechten helemaal voor niks

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:18 schreef Atak het volgende:
Ouch! Al dat vechten helemaal voor niks

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:22 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Veterans today! De site die een leugen in de wereld verspreidde dat Al-Baghdadi, Shimon Eliott zou heten.

Jij bent echt niet meer serieus te nemen, 0.0% kritisch.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:22 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Veterans today! De site die een leugen in de wereld verspreidde dat Al-Baghdadi, Shimon Eliott zou heten.

Jij bent echt niet meer serieus te nemen, 0.0% kritisch.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:24 schreef Atak het volgende:
Ziet ernaar uit dat PKK/YPG terroristen bespeeld worden hehe. Eerst als kanonnenvoer worden gebruikt en straks als het FSA leger klaar is wordt het uit hun hangen gepakt alsof je snoep van een kleuter afpakt. Tja, dat konden ze wel verwachten. Als je geen toestemming vraagt van Turkije en het FSA (die ze toch niet zouden krijgen) dan ga je bespeeld worden en als kanonnenvoer gebruikt worden want niemand wil een communistische terreurstaat.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:18 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Ik heb zelf nooit geroepen dat Zuid-Irak een vazalstaat van Iran is geworden, tot voor kort. Alles wijst erop: Iraakse politici die alleen nog maar positief over Iran spreken, de anti-Amerikaanse sentimenten van Irak, de Iraanse commandanten die sji'itische milities leiden.

In Syrie vecht Iran zelfs gewoon direct mee. Daar is bewijsmateriaal voor geleverd.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:27 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Je hebt nog poep in je ogen zeker?

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A delegation from the Afrin Canton has held high level talks at the European Parliament.

The delegation, led by Afrin Canton Prime Minister Hevi Mustafa includes Foreign Minister S�leyman Cafer, Deputy Foreign Minister Cihan Muhammed and PYD European Executive Committee member Ibrahim Ibrahim. The HDP’s Council of Europe representative Faik Yağızay accompanied the delegation.

The Afrin Canton delegation held many meetings, including with the head of the European Parliament’s Foreign Relations Commission, Elmar Brok, Left Group President Gaby Zimmer and Green Group Co-President Rebecca Harms.

The delegation explained the inhumane measures perpetrated by gangs such as ISIS and the Al Nusra Front, and the effects of the de facto embargo on Afrin canton. They also explained the model of democratic autonomy created with different identities and communities and what they expect from Europe as they face threats and dangers.

The delegation issued a statement saying they had been received with great interest.

Following their meetings the delegation met people from Kurdistan at the Mesopotamia Culture Centre yesterday evening

The Afrin canton delegation is expected to continue its meetings today.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:29 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Iraakse sjiitische politici zijn zo verdeeld als ze maar kunnen zijn. Dat heeft niets met Iran te maken maar dat is zeker niet iets wat Iran zou willen. Anti-Amerikaanse senti-menten hebben niks met Iran te maken, die sentimenten waren er altijd al. En sjiitische milities hebben geen Iraanse commandanten. Ze zullen vast wel steun krijgen van Iran, geld, kennis, etc. Maar de leiders van de milities zijn grotendeels bekend en het zijn gewoon Irakezen. Het is gewoon propaganda om Iran zwart te maken. Terwijl ze grotendeels een positief effect op Irak hebben gehad, vergeleken met de buurlanden.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:48 schreef Atak het volgende:
Er zijn geen Assyri�rs of Arabieren in PKK/YPG. Laatst was het nog in het nieuws dat ze Arabieren vermoordden die niet mee wouden doen met zo'n communistische terroristische groepering.

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Syriacs and Kurds shared similar grievances under the thumb of Baathist pan-Arabism, and the recent rebellion has prompted their political parties to strike an unwritten alliance to maintain their distance from the regime as well as the opposition. The backlash of this decision, however, could be the further entrenchment of sectarian divisions, thus serving the regime's interest in keeping minorities away from the opposition by bestowing concessions upon them.

“Is this a checkpoint of the Free Syrian Army [FSA]?” a worried Christian woman asked on a bus traveling between Amuda and Ras al-Ain. “No, don't worry. It belongs to the [Kurdish] YPG [Popular Protection Units],” replied her husband. Christians tend to feel reassured by the presence of Kurdish militias, and the Democratic Union Party (PYD), the main

Arab YPG fighter in Rojava 06/03/2014

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According to local sources inside Syria's Kurdish "Rojava" region, however, 10 American citizens as well as hundreds of non-Kurdish volunteers comprising Syrian Arabs, Turkish citizens and Europeans have already joined the People's Protection Units (YPG) fighting against IS jihadists.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:04 schreef Atak het volgende:
Als ik een Koerd zou zijn had ik mij aangesloten bij het FSA. Dan heb je tenminste kans om te overleven en een grote kans dat je je aansluit aan het winnende kant.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:07 schreef IsaacCuenca het volgende:
Een assyrier, is dat het tegenovergestelde van een syrier?

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:07 schreef IsaacCuenca het volgende:
Een assyrier, is dat het tegenovergestelde van een syrier?

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:07 schreef IsaacCuenca het volgende:
Een assyrier, is dat het tegenovergestelde van een syrier?

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:11 schreef Atak het volgende:

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Assyri�rs zijn de oorspronkelijke inwoners van Syri�. Koerden hadden een genocide gepleegd op hen. Daarom mogen ze Koerden helemaal niet. Al helemaal gek om te beweren dat ze voor Koerden gaan vechten zoals sommige gekkies hier doen.

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De Assyrische genocide is een volkerenmoord gepleegd op de Assyri�rs/Aramee�rs in het Ottomaanse Rijk tijdens de Eerste Wereldoorlog en onder leiding van de beweging der Jonge Turken.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:07 schreef IsaacCuenca het volgende:
Een assyrier, is dat het tegenovergestelde van een syrier?

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Many Assyrians were subjected to Kurdish brigandage and even outright massacre and forced conversion to Islam, as was the case of the Assyrians of Hakkari during the massacres of Badr Khan in the 1840s and the Massacres of Diyarbakır during the 1895–96 Hamidian Massacres.

Assyrians Demand Kurdish Apology for Last Century Killings
By Judit Neurink 19/8/2013
An ancient Assyrian monastery in the Kurdistan Region. Photo by Judit Neurink
An ancient Assyrian monastery in the Kurdistan Region. Photo by Judit Neurink



ERBIL, Kurdistan Region – The American Mesopotamian Organization (AMO) is demanding an official apology from Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani for the murder of Assyrians by Kurds in the past. Thousands of Assyrian Christians were killed in the region in the last century.

“Just as the Kurdish try to get recognition for the Kurdish genocide, we ask them to accept their responsibility for the killings of the Assyrians in this region,” says David William Lazar, head of the AMO in Los Angeles.

Many of the Assyrians were killed by Kurdish troops working with the Ottomans and later the Iraqi Kingdom, he says. “Compare how the German government later took responsibility for the Holocaust under the Nazis.”

Lazar leads one of the political groups that together represent around half a million Assyrians living in the United States, and lobbies with American politicians for their rights and the recognition of the Assyrian genocide of 1915.

His organization recently made the news when it furiously deplored a message from Barzani on the occasion of the Assyrian Martyrs Remembrance Day on August 7 -- the first time that Barzani sent such a message -- on the 80th birthday of the Semile massacre.

The massacre was ordered in 1933 by the Iraqi government under King Faysal, and conducted by a Kurdish general, Bakr Sidqi. It did not only hit Semile but dozens of other Assyrian villages in the region between Duhok and Zakho.

The death toll was officially put at 600, but unofficially at 3,000. Thousands of Assyrians fled the country, and the head of the Assyrian Church of the East was forced into exile. Even today, the church is led from the American city of Chicago.

In his message, Barzani expressed his “heartfelt consolation to the victims of that savage, dreadful massacre which the Iraqi regime carried out at that time.”

He added that the August 7, 1933 catastrophe in the Semile area “is not erased from memory and is evidence of the fact that all the constituents of Kurdistan equally opposed the catastrophes, the lack of acknowledgement and the oppression.”

Lazar calls that message offensive.

“He (Barzani) called us Kurdistani components,” he says from his home in Los Angeles. “We are a proud nation of thousands of years. Kurdification of our ethnicity is unacceptable,” he adds, saying it “is a continuation of Arabization” that happened under ousted dictator Saddam Hussein.

Lazar expresses fear that the Kurds want to “eradicate our Assyrian identity and culture.” He objects to the fact that the KRG calls Assyrians “Christian Kurds,” while they are ethnically not Kurdish at all. “Don’t call us Christians, which is our faith. Our ethnic background is Assyrian.”

One of the aims of his organization is the creation of an autonomous state for the Assyrians on the Nineveh Plains between Mosul and Duhok. That is one of the so-called disputed areas, governed by Baghdad but which the Kurdish Region wants to add to its map.

It is already under Kurdish administrative and military control, and the KRG has offered to make the Assyrian dream come true under its rule. It has even placed a clause on the issue in Kurdistan’s draft constitution.

But Lazar stresses that the new Assyrian province should be tied to Baghdad, and formed under article 140 of the Iraqi constitution. A proposal for five new Iraqi provinces is already on the table in Baghdad, including Nineveh. “We believe in a unified Iraq, we want to keep the country one,” Lazar says.

He says that he plans a trip to Iraqi Kurdistan later in the year. “I have nothing against the Kurds. They are misinformed. We just want them to behave as civilized people and treat all citizens alike,” he adds.
http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/19082013

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:17 schreef Atak het volgende:

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De Turken hadden nog geprobeerd de Assyri�rs te redden maar dat is niet altijd gelukt tevergeefs. Heel veel Assyriers zijn gedood door Koerden voor hun geld, land en vrouwen. Daarom haten Assyiers de Koerden heel erg.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:07 schreef IsaacCuenca het volgende:
Een assyrier, is dat het tegenovergestelde van een syrier?

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The Ottoman Empire began massacring Assyrians in the nineteenth century, a time of friendly relations between the Ottomans and the British, who were defending the Ottomans from the Russian Empire's efforts to include under its protection the communities of Ottoman Orthodox Christians.[3] In October 1914, the Ottoman Empire began deporting and massacring Assyrians and Armenians in Van.[3] After attacking Russian cities and declaring war on Britain and France, the Empire declared a holy war on Christians.[3] The German Kaiser and the German Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire directed and orchestrated the holy war, and financed the Ottomans' war against the Russian Empire.[3]

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EjmAlrai twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 14:47:22 Media in Syria saying an explosion in #IslamicState HQ in Mayadeen #DeirEzzor w / o information on casualties. #Syria reageer retweet

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EjmAlrai twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 14:58:01 #JAN initiated an attack against #Nubl and #Zahraa a few hours ago but had to pull out. This is the second failed attack today. #Syria reageer retweet

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EjmAlrai twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 15:09:41 #JAN was trying to close the main highway Al-Salam between Damascus and Daraa. Attack unsuccessful. Seems #JAN is not lucky today. #Syria. reageer retweet

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PetoLucem twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 14:13:17 Loy.s.: #SAA forces have eliminated #Nusra field commander Hamze Mahmoud Jamouss in #Shaykh_Miskin. #Daraa #Syria http://t.co/QoNpNqVzCb reageer retweet

twitter:

EjmAlrai twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 15:08:35 Abu Hamam al-jazrawi, a Saudi fighting with #JAN was killed by #SAA in Sheikh Miskeen, reef Daraa. #Syria. 1/ reageer retweet

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vmsalama twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 15:15:39 Residents in Iraqi city of #Mosul tell @AP that #IslamicState militants blocked the mobile phone signal to the town. Ppl say city in "chaos" reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:35 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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PetoLucem twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 14:13:17 Loy.s.: #SAA forces have eliminated #Nusra field commander Hamze Mahmoud Jamouss in #Shaykh_Miskin. #Daraa #Syria http://t.co/QoNpNqVzCb reageer retweet

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EjmAlrai twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 15:08:35 Abu Hamam al-jazrawi, a Saudi fighting with #JAN was killed by #SAA in Sheikh Miskeen, reef Daraa. #Syria. 1/ reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:40 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Saudi Arabie verliest wel steeds meer inwoners joh met al die dode Saudiers.

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Conflict_Report twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 15:14:17 A Syrian rebel T-55A is active in #Aleppo's Khalidiya district.https://t.co/2UNZYzXBQG#Syria http://t.co/oVelGIS3Im reageer retweet

حلب الخالدية الجيش الحر يقصف بقذائف الدبابات معاقل قوات الأسد 27 11 2014

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:39 schreef Smack10 het volgende:

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vmsalama twitterde op donderdag 27-11-2014 om 15:15:39 Residents in Iraqi city of #Mosul tell @AP that #IslamicState militants blocked the mobile phone signal to the town. Ppl say city in "chaos" reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 16:02 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Ik las ook al zoiets. Ze zeggen dat Al-Baghdadi Mosul in zou komen, maar ik geloof daar eigenlijk vrij weinig van. Waarvoor zou die communicatication-cut bedoeld zijn, volgens jou?

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 16:09 schreef Smack10 het volgende:

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Zodat eventuele tegenstanders van IS in Mosul (sleeping soldiers/spionnen) geen informatie kunnen ontvangen/versturen?

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 16:17 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Zou deze communication-cut dan definitief zijn? Ik dacht meer aan eentje voor een dag/week, niet voor de rest van het ISIS-bestaan in Mosul.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 16:20 schreef Smack10 het volgende:

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Ik heb geen glazen bol maar sinds de Koerden de grensovergang goed in de gaten houden (deels in hun macht hebben) stokt het behoorlijk bij IS/JAN.

Maar goed, kat in het nauw scenaria kan natuurlijk ook.

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Wahhabism to ISIS: how Saudi Arabia exported the main source of global terrorism

As the so-called Islamic State demolishes nation states set up by the Europeans almost a century ago, IS’s obscene savagery seems to epitomise the violence that many believe to be inherent in religion in general and Islam in particular. It also suggests that the neoconservative ideology that inspired the Iraq war was delusory, since it assumed that the liberal nation state was an inevitable outcome of modernity and that, once Saddam’s dictatorship had gone, Iraq could not fail to become a western-style democracy. Instead, IS, which was born in the Iraq war and is intent on restoring the premodern autocracy of the caliphate, seems to be reverting to barbarism. On 16 November, the militants released a video showing that they had beheaded a fifth western hostage, the American aid worker Peter Kassig, as well as several captured Syrian soldiers. Some will see the group’s ferocious irredentism as proof of Islam’s chronic inability to embrace modern values.

Yet although IS is certainly an Islamic movement, it is neither typical nor mired in the distant past, because its roots are in Wahhabism, a form of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia that developed only in the 18th century. In July 2013, the European Parliament identified Wahhabism as the main source of global terrorism, and yet the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, condemning IS in the strongest terms, has insisted that “the ideas of extremism, radicalism and terrorism do not belong to Islam in any way”. Other members of the Saudi ruling class, however, look more kindly on the movement, applauding its staunch opposition to Shiaism and for its Salafi piety, its adherence to the original practices of Islam. This inconsistency is a salutary reminder of the impossibility of making accurate generalisations about any religious tradition. In its short history, Wahhabism has developed at least two distinct forms, each of which has a wholly different take on violence.

During the 18th century, revivalist movements sprang up in many parts of the Islamic world as the Muslim imperial powers began to lose control of peripheral territories. In the west at this time, we were beginning to separate church from state, but this secular ideal was a radical innovation: as revolutionary as the commercial economy that Europe was concurrently devising. No other culture regarded religion as a purely private activity, separate from such worldly pursuits as politics, so for Muslims the political fragmentation of their society was also a religious problem. Because the Quran had given them a sacred mission – to build a just economy in which everybody was treated with equity and respect – the political well-being of the umma (“community”) was always a matter of sacred import. If the poor were oppressed, the vulnerable exploited or state institutions corrupt, Muslims were obliged to make every effort to put society back on track.

So the 18th-century reformers were convinced that if Muslims were to regain lost power and prestige, they must return to the fundamentals of their faith, ensuring that God – rather than materialism or worldly ambition – dominated the political order. There was nothing militant about this “fundamentalism”; rather, it was a grass-roots attempt to reorient society and did not involve jihad. One of the most influential of these revivalists was Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab (1703-91), a learned scholar of Najd in central Arabia, whose teachings still inspire Muslim reformers and extremists today. He was especially concerned about the popular cult of saints and the idolatrous rituals at their tombs, which, he believed, attributed divinity to mere mortals. He insisted that every single man and woman should concentrate instead on the study of the Quran and the “traditions” (hadith) about the customary practice (Sunnah) of the Prophet and his companions. Like Luther, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab wanted to return to the earliest teachings of his faith and eject all later medieval accretions. He therefore opposed Sufism and Shiaism as heretical innovations (bidah), and he urged all Muslims to reject the learned exegesis developed over the centuries by the ulema (“scholars”) and interpret the texts for themselves.

This naturally incensed the clergy and threatened local rulers, who believed that interfering with these popular devotions would cause social unrest. Eventually, however, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab found a patron in Muhammad Ibn Saud, a chieftain of Najd who adopted his ideas. But tension soon developed between the two because Ibn Abd al-Wahhab refused to endorse Ibn Saud’s military campaigns for plunder and territory, insisting that jihad could not be waged for personal profit but was permissible only when the umma was attacked militarily. He also forbade the Arab custom of killing prisoners of war, the deliberate destruction of property and the slaughter of civilians, including women and children. Nor did he ever claim that those who fell in battle were martyrs who would be rewarded with a high place in heaven, because a desire for such self-aggrandisement was incompatible with jihad. Two forms of Wahhabism were emerging: where Ibn Saud was happy to enforce Wahhabi Islam with the sword to enhance his political position, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab insisted that education, study and debate were the only legitimate means of spreading the one true faith.

Yet although scripture was so central to Ibn Abd al-Wahhab’s ideology, by insisting that his version of Islam alone had validity, he had distorted the Quranic message. The Quran firmly stated that “There must be no coercion in matters of faith” (2:256), ruled that Muslims must believe in the revelations of all the great prophets (3:84) and that religious pluralism was God’s will (5:48). Muslims had, therefore, been traditionally wary of takfir, the practice of declaring a fellow Muslim to be an unbeliever (kafir). Hitherto Sufism, which had developed an outstanding appreciation of other faith traditions, had been the most popular form of Islam and had played an important role in both social and religious life. “Do not praise your own faith so exclusively that you disbelieve all the rest,” urged the great mystic Ibn al-Arabi (d.1240). “God the omniscient and omnipresent cannot be confined to any one creed.” It was common for a Sufi to claim that he was a neither a Jew nor a Christian, nor even a Muslim, because once you glimpsed the divine, you left these man-made distinctions behind.

Despite his rejection of other forms of Islam, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab himself refrained from takfir, arguing that God alone could read the heart, but after his death Wahhabis cast this inhibition aside and the generous pluralism of Sufism became increasingly suspect in the Muslim world.

After his death, too, Wahhabism became more violent, an instrument of state terror. As he sought to establish an independent kingdom, Abd al-Aziz Ibn Muhammad, Ibn Saud’s son and successor, used takfir to justify the wholesale slaughter of resistant populations. In 1801, his army sacked the holy Shia city of Karbala in what is now Iraq, plundered the tomb of Imam Husain, and slaughtered thousands of Shias, including women and children; in 1803, in fear and panic, the holy city of Mecca surrendered to the Saudi leader.

Eventually, in 1815, the Ottomans despatched Muhammad Ali Pasha, governor of Egypt, to crush the Wahhabi forces and destroy their capital. But Wahhabism became a political force once again during the First World War when the Saudi chieftain – another Abd al-Aziz – made a new push for statehood and began to carve out a large kingdom for himself in the Middle East with his devout Bedouin army, known as the Ikhwan, the “Brotherhood”.

In the Ikhwan we see the roots of IS. To break up the tribes and wean them from the nomadic life, which was deemed incompatible with Islam, the Wahhabi clergy had settled the Bedouin in oases, where they learned farming and the crafts of sedentary life and were indoctrinated in Wahhabi Islam. Once they exchanged the time-honoured ghazu raid, which typically resulted in the plunder of livestock, for the jihad, these Bedouin fighters became more violent and extreme, covering their faces when they encountered Europeans and non-Saudi Arabs and fighting with lances and swords because they disdained weaponry not used by the Prophet. In the old ghazu raids, the Bedouin had always kept casualties to a minimum and did not attack non-combatants. Now the Ikhwan routinely massacred “apostate” unarmed villagers in their thousands, thought nothing of slaughtering women and children, and routinely slit the throats of all male captives.

In 1915, Abd al-Aziz planned to conquer the Hijaz (an area in the west of present-day Saudi Arabia that includes the cities of Mecca and Medina), the Persian Gulf to the east of Najd, and the land that is now Syria and Jordan in the north, but during the 1920s he tempered his ambitions in order to acquire diplomatic standing as a nation state with Britain and the United States. The Ikhwan, however, continued to raid the British protectorates of Iraq, Transjordan and Kuwait, insisting that no limits could be placed on jihad. Regarding all modernisation as bidah, the Ikhwan also attacked Abd al-Aziz for permitting telephones, cars, the telegraph, music and smoking – indeed, anything unknown in Muhammad’s time – until finally Abd al-Aziz quashed their rebellion in 1930.

After the defeat of the Ikhwan, the official Wahhabism of the Saudi kingdom abandoned militant jihad and became a religiously conservative movement, similar to the original movement in the time of Ibn Abd al-Wahhab, except that takfir was now an accepted practice and, indeed, essential to the Wahhabi faith. Henceforth there would always be tension between the ruling Saudi establishment and more radical Wahhabis. The Ikhwan spirit and its dream of territorial expansion did not die, but gained new ground in the 1970s, when the kingdom became central to western foreign policy in the region. Washington welcomed the Saudis’ opposition to Nasserism (the pan-Arab socialist ideology of Egypt’s second president, Gamal Abdel Nasser) and to Soviet influence. After the Iranian Revolution, it gave tacit support to the Saudis’ project of countering Shia radicalism by Wahhabising the entire Muslim world.

The soaring oil price created by the 1973 embargo – when Arab petroleum producers cut off supplies to the US to protest against the Americans’ military support for Israel – gave the kingdom all the petrodollars it needed to export its idiosyncratic form of Islam. The old military jihad to spread the faith was now replaced by a cultural offensive. The Saudi-based Muslim World League opened offices in every region inhabited by Muslims, and the Saudi ministry of religion printed and distributed Wahhabi translations of the Quran, Wahhabi doctrinal texts and the writings of modern thinkers whom the Saudis found congenial, such as Sayyids Abul-A’la Maududi and Qutb, to Muslim communities throughout the Middle East, Africa, Indonesia, the United States and Europe. In all these places, they funded the building of Saudi-style mosques with Wahhabi preachers and established madrasas that provided free education for the poor, with, of course, a Wahhabi curriculum. At the same time, young men from the poorer Muslim countries, such as Egypt and Pakistan, who had felt compelled to find work in the Gulf to support their families, associated their relative affluence with Wahhabism and brought this faith back home with them, living in new neighbourhoods with Saudi mosques and shopping malls that segregated the sexes. The Saudis demanded religious conformity in return for their munificence, so Wahhabi rejection of all other forms of Islam as well as other faiths would reach as deeply into Bradford, England, and Buffalo, New York, as into Pakistan, Jordan or Syria: everywhere gravely undermining Islam’s traditional pluralism.

A whole generation of Muslims, therefore, has grown up with a maverick form of Islam that has given them a negative view of other faiths and an intolerantly sectarian understanding of their own. While not extremist per se, this is an outlook in which radicalism can develop. In the past, the learned exegesis of the ulema, which Wahhabis rejected, had held extremist interpretations of scripture in check; but now unqualified freelancers such as Osama Bin Laden were free to develop highly unorthodox readings of the Quran. To prevent the spread of radicalism, the Saudis tried to deflect their young from the internal problems of the kingdom during the 1980s by encouraging a pan-Islamist sentiment of which the Wahhabi ulema did not approve.

Where Islamists in such countries as Egypt fought tyranny and corruption at home, Saudi Islamists focused on the humiliation and oppression of Muslims worldwide. Television brought images of Muslim suffering in Palestine or Lebanon into comfortable Saudi homes. The gov�ernment also encouraged young men to join the steady stream of recruits from the Arab world who were joining the Afghans’ jihad against the Soviet Union. The response of these militants may throw light on the motivation of those joining the jihad in Syria and Iraq today.

A survey of those Saudi men who volunteered for Afghanistan and who later fought in Bosnia and Chechnya or trained in al-Qaeda camps has found that most were motivated not by hatred of the west but by the desire to help their Muslim brothers and sisters – in rather the same way as men from all over Europe left home in 1938 to fight the Fascists in Spain, and as Jews from all over the diaspora hastened to Israel at the beginning of the Six Day War in 1967. The welfare of the umma had always been a spiritual as well as a political concern in Islam, so the desperate plight of their fellow Muslims cut to the core of their religious identity. This pan-Islamist emphasis was also central to Bin Laden’s propaganda, and the martyr-videos of the Saudis who took part in the 9/11 atrocity show that they were influenced less by Wahhabism than by the pain and humiliation of the umma as a whole.

Like the Ikhwan, IS represents a rebellion against the official Wahhabism of modern Saudi Arabia. Its swords, covered faces and cut-throat executions all recall the original Brotherhood. But it is unlikely that the IS hordes consist entirely of diehard jihadists. A substantial number are probably secularists who resent the status quo in Iraq: Ba’athists from Saddam Hussein’s regime and former soldiers of his disbanded army. This would explain IS’s strong performance against professional military forces. In all likelihood, few of the young recruits are motivated either by Wahhabism or by more traditional Muslim ideals. In 2008, MI5’s behavioural science unit noted that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” A significant proportion of those convicted of terrorism offences since the 9/11 attacks have been non-observant, or are self-taught, or, like the gunman in the recent attack on the Canadian parliament, are converts to Islam. They may claim to be acting in the name of Islam, but when an untalented beginner tells us that he is playing a Beethoven sonata, we hear only cacophony. Two wannabe jihadists who set out from Birmingham for Syria last May had ordered Islam for Dummies from Amazon.

It would be a mistake to see IS as a throwback; it is, as the British philosopher John Gray has argued, a thoroughly modern movement that has become an efficient, self-financing business with assets estimated at $2bn. Its looting, theft of gold bullion from banks, kidnapping, siphoning of oil in the conquered territories and extortion have made it the wealthiest jihadist group in the world. There is nothing random or irrational about IS violence. The execution videos are carefully and strategically planned to inspire terror, deter dissent and sow chaos in the greater population.

Mass killing is a thoroughly modern phenomenon. During the French Revolution, which led to the emergence of the first secular state in Europe, the Jacobins publicly beheaded about 17,000 men, women and children. In the First World War, the Young Turks slaughtered over a million Armenians, including women, children and the elderly, to create a pure Turkic nation. The Soviet Bolsheviks, the Khmer Rouge and the Red Guard all used systematic terrorism to purge humanity of corruption. Similarly, IS uses violence to achieve a single, limited and clearly defined objective that would be impossible without such slaughter. As such, it is another expression of the dark side of modernity.

In 1922, as Mustafa Kemal Atat�rk rose to power, he completed the Young Turks’ racial purge by forcibly deporting all Greek-speaking Christians from Turkey; in 1925 he declared null and void the caliphate that IS has vowed to reinstate. The caliphate had long been a dead letter politically, but because it symbolised the unity of the umma and its link with the Prophet, Sunni Muslims mourned its loss as a spiritual and cultural trauma. Yet IS’s projected caliphate has no support among ulema internationally and is derided throughout the Muslim world. That said, the limitations of the nation state are becoming increasingly apparent in our world; this is especially true in the Middle East, which has no tradition of nationalism, and where the frontiers drawn by invaders were so arbitrary that it was well nigh impossible to create a truly national spirit. Here, too, IS is not simply harking back to a bygone age but is, however eccentrically, enunciating a modern concern.

The liberal-democratic nation state developed in Europe in part to serve the Industrial Revolution, which made the ideals of the Enlightenment no longer noble aspirations but practical necessities. It is not ideal: its Achilles heel has always been an inability to tolerate ethnic minorities – a failing responsible for some of the worst atrocities of the 20th century. In other parts of the world where modernisation has developed differently, other polities may be more appropriate. So the liberal state is not an inevitable consequence of modernity; the attempt to produce democracy in Iraq using the colo�nial methods of invasion, subjugation and occupation could only result in an unnatural birth – and so IS emerged from the resulting mayhem.

IS may have overreached itself; its policies may not be sustainable and it faces determined opposition from Sunni and Shia Muslims alike. Interestingly Saudi Arabia, with its impressive counterterrorist resources, has already thwarted IS attempts to launch a series of attacks in the kingdom and may be the only regional power capable of bringing it down. The shooting in Canada on 22 October, where a Muslim convert killed a soldier at a war memorial, indicates that the blowback in the west has begun; to deal realistically with our situation, we need an informed understanding of the precise and limited role of Islam in the conflict, and to recognise that IS is not an atavistic return to a primitive past, but in some real sense a product of modernity.

Karen Armstrong is the author of “Fields of Blood: Religion and the History of Violence” (Bodley Head, �25)

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Two wannabe jihadists who set out from Birmingham for Syria last May had ordered Islam for Dummies from Amazon.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 22:11 schreef primakov het volgende:

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 23:56 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Internet zit ook vol van die trutjes met hijab en lange rok icm. halve doos make-up en duckface selfies die dan Taymiyyah ophemelen en "do dua" roepen bij elke actie van de takfiri's.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 14:18 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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In Syrie vecht Iran zelfs gewoon direct mee. Daar is bewijsmateriaal voor geleverd.

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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 15:26 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Arme Assyriers. Ze ontvingen Turken met open armen, en kregen er een depopulatie van 90% voor terug omdat de Ottomanen van genocide houden.

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Het is zelfs zo erg dat de Turkse kolonisten de Assyrische genocide niet willen erkennen. Sterker nog: de Assyrische diaspora worden door Turken belaagd en bedreigd. Zie hier:

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 00:38 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:

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Heb je filmpje van Irani�rs die in Syrie vechten ? Wat bedoel je met bewijsmateriaal ?

Ghosts of Aleppo (Full Length)

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 02:38 schreef HexHunter het volgende:

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Best wel gek eigenlijk dat bijna geen enkel land het erkent in tegenstelling tot de Armeense genocide. Ik vind die selectieve verontwaardiging bullshit.

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 09:14 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Is een VICE documentaire. Bekijk hem hier, is sowieso een interessante documentaire. Jihadstrijders hebben een Iraanse brigade weten te verslaan, die toevallig beeldmateriaal aan het opnemen was van de strijd en de dagen ervoor.

Ghosts of Aleppo (Full Length)

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 00:40 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Zij heeft gewoon gelijk

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 13:55 schreef hafez1234 het volgende:
barzani op tijdschrift

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 14:39 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Omdat dat inderdaad hypocriete kutwijven zijn.

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 13:44 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:

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Heb je een andere bron ? Ik geloof die terroristen niet.

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 15:27 schreef primakov het volgende:

Coalition drone filmed Daesh Isis raping a donkey

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deSyracuse twitterde op vrijdag 28-11-2014 om 17:00:23 #Kobane situation map update 28 Nov 2014 / #IS withdraw from Sec. box http://t.co/uxmYswEfWW http://t.co/ZK8v9HKfXL reageer retweet

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AP twitterde op vrijdag 28-11-2014 om 17:02:06 VIDEO: Exclusive AP video shows Kurdish fighters battling IS militants inside Kobani: http://t.co/s5dW7E8ykk reageer retweet

Raw: Kurdish Fighters Battle IS Inside Kobani

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 18:07 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
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Op donderdag 27 november 2014 13:37 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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LOWKEY - TERRORIST? (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 18:41 schreef theunderdog het volgende:

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Arabieren zijn gek op ezel, geiten kut.

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 18:07 schreef firefly3 het volgende:
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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 16:48 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Kansloze hoax..

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 19:55 schreef Szura het volgende:
Is die aanvoerroute naar FSA en JAN in Aleppo inmiddels al afgesneden door SAA? Als dat gebeurt worden ze snel kapot gemaakt.

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 19:54 schreef hafez1234 het volgende:
Geel IS. Zwart koerden

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 22:34 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Hier ben ik er weer jongens.

SNOOP DOGG - WHO AM I (WHATS MY NAME) HD

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 18:10 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:
Beetje info over waar en wat zou mooi zijn...

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 00:38 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:
Heb je filmpje van Irani�rs die in Syrie vechten ? Wat bedoel je met bewijsmateriaal ?

Iran's Secret Army

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 22:34 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Hier ben ik er weer jongens.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 00:09 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Blij je weer hier te zien

Eindelijk weer wat soenni versterking in dit topic

Nu Ilias er weer bij en we zijn op complete sterkte als vanouds

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 00:09 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Blij je weer hier te zien

Eindelijk weer wat soenni versterking in dit topic

Nu Ilias er weer bij en we zijn op complete sterkte als vanouds

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 23:58 schreef Spanjaard5 het volgende:

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Iran's Secret Army

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 15:06 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Heb je het beeldmateriaal wel bekeken?

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 00:41 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Jullie kunnen dan een groepslezing doen van sheikh ul islam Ibn Taymiyyah.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 02:37 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:

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Ja.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 11:57 schreef IPA35 het volgende:
Islamic State group attacking Kobani from Turkey

http://bigstory.ap.org/ar(...)acking-kobani-turkey

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 12:05 schreef Richestorags het volgende:

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Ik hoop echt dat dit gedrag backfiret richting die nep sultan op een dag.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 12:05 schreef Richestorags het volgende:

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Ik hoop echt dat dit gedrag backfiret richting die nep sultan op een dag.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 12:21 schreef IPA35 het volgende:

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Assad gaat sowieso weer wapens leveren aan PKK als dit klaar is.

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Last week, two groups from Iraqi Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) President Massoud Barzani's pershmerga forces and factions from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) entered Kobani with their weapons through a corridor enabled by Turkey. However, the alliance of the PKK and the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and some leftist groups in Turkey had been expressing a totally different scene for weeks. According to them, Barzani helped the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) when it was invading Mosul, Iraq and the FSA organically came to mean the same thing as ISIS. Now, the support of both of these actors of the PYD against ISIS needs a further explanation. But neither Kurdish media nor the writers on the left have explained this "oddity." Besides, the KRG declared that they could send a number of peshmerga soldiers according to the PYD's needs. The FSA also offered to send 1,300 people, which is nearly a military regiment, but the PYD did not accept. They stepped back as soon as they saw the aid though they loudly announced for days that they were alone in Kobani.

Everyone knows the reason for it. The aim of the PKK and the PYD is to have control over the Rojava region by itself and to negotiate as the only power in this land. Therefore, they do not want to see "foreign" soldiers around the neighborhood. They also objected Ankara's intervention in their negotiations with the Turkish government for that reason. Thereafter they tried to impose pressure on the government by spreading propaganda that Ankara was supporting ISIS. But now there is one more oddity – Turkey, which allegedly helps ISIS, has enabled the passage of peshmerga forces and FSA soldiers through the country. Ankara based this act on the legal grounds of the legislation recently issued in Parliament. However, the Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP) voted against the troop mandate.

The irony does not end with this. While peshmerga soldiers were heading for Kobani through the Turkish corridor, they were welcomed by a Kurdish delegation including HDP members. The public saluted the KRG soldiers during their journey. While Turkey's media took this as natural, media outlets with ties to the Kurdish political movement did not regard it as a natural course of events. It is obvious that the PYD is disturbed by the arrival of peshmerga forces. They are even more disturbed by the fact that they reached Kobani through Turkey, because it increased Rojava's possibility of evolving into a pluralist administration at a possible moment for peace.

If we leave the recently exaggerated lies aside, the core subject is simple. The Justice and Development Party (AK Party) government wishes the reconstruction of Syria and Iraq will be done in a pluralist way paying regard to the inner dynamics of the local communities. It is ready to take any step that would support this wish. The party is against the possibility of a certain force's control over a land, any kind of homogenization it would impose there and formation of a so-called "democratic" ideological regulation. This practically means liberating Rojava from the PYD's control and introducing a much broader and pluralist administration that also include the PYD. The AK Party wishes the same thing for southeastern Turkey. It sides with the free politicization of different viewpoints among Kurds, formation of a democratic competition framework and reinforcing the local administrations under such conditions.

However, the PKK and the PYD are afraid of this option. They want to consolidate the power they have, turn it into an asset and conduct negotiations in such a position. Consequently, they work with Assad, do not object to the massacres of ISIS aimed at "others," do not favor the aid of FSA and peshmerga forces and want to lay the charge of its own failure on Turkey.

As a tragicomic result of this condition, a Kurdish intellectual called the "secular and progressivist" stratum in Turkey to stage a coup last week. The failure and lack of politics cause a part of Kurdish society to turn to violence again diminishing legitimacy. Such a deficiency of common sense can only be explained through psychology.
http://www.dailysabah.com(...)leave-the-lies-aside

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Op vrijdag 28 november 2014 09:14 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Is een VICE documentaire. Bekijk hem hier, is sowieso een interessante documentaire. Jihadstrijders hebben een Iraanse brigade weten te verslaan, die toevallig beeldmateriaal aan het opnemen was van de strijd en de dagen ervoor.

Ghosts of Aleppo (Full Length)

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 10:07 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Dan weet je dus dat het echt is.

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Kurdish forces in northern Iraq are drawing up plans to break Islamic State's siege of Sinjar mountain, where hundreds of minority Yazidis remain stranded months after fleeing their homes.

Seeking to regain territory and repair pride in his military forces, Masoud Barzani, president of Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdish region, is overseeing efforts to retake the mountain, senior party members said.

Islamic State attacked the Sinjar area in August, sending thousands of Yazidis fleeing up the mountain, a craggy strip some 40 miles (65 km) long.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 13:40 schreef Montana_ir het volgende:

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Heb je het beeldmateriaal wel bekeken?

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ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—Kurdish military commanders said that their forces killed 124 Islamic State (ISIS) fighters, including seven leaders near the Mosul Dam today.

“ISIS fighters launched a wide scale attack on the Peshmerga positions today, in Sahlij village and Ein Mani'a west of the Mosul dam, but the Peshmerga forces confronted them and repelled the attacks,” said a senior military commander in the area.

The commander said that among the killed are seven ISIS leaders and that the bodies of 70 dead militants are in the hands of the Peshmerga forces.

According to the Peshmerga, most of the militants who were killed today were of Uzbek and Chechen nationality.

The Kurdish commander named the ISIS leaders as: Abu Bilal, Abu Baraa al-Turki, Abu Akram al-Turki, Abu Muslim al-Turki, Abu Sumaya al-Turki, Abu Abdul Hmaid al-Turki and Muhamad Rasul Beg al Masri.

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Op zaterdag 29 november 2014 13:59 schreef mylamboisblack het volgende:

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Komt dat stukje er niet in waarin te zien is dat een Iraanse militair omkomt met een brigade erbij in Syrie? En dat ie later wordt geeerd in Iran?