Revolutie in Egypte #192: Waar het leger met Chemische wapens aanvalt

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Op dinsdag 22 november 2011 22:53 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Door wie is dit gemaakt? Politie?

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Op dinsdag 22 november 2011 22:55 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

معارك «محمد محمود»: اليوم الرابع

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 00:22 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:
Heeft er eigenlijk iemand nog iets gehoord van die El Baradei de laatste maanden ? Neemt die zelfs wel deel aan de verkiezingen volgende week ? Of was zijn bombardering tot "oppositieleider" iets wat enkel in Westerse media aan bod kwam ?

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 00:22 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:
Heeft er eigenlijk iemand nog iets gehoord van die El Baradei de laatste maanden ? Neemt die zelfs wel deel aan de verkiezingen volgende week ? Of was zijn bombardering tot "oppositieleider" iets wat enkel in Westerse media aan bod kwam ?

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 12:12 schreef Ludacriss het volgende:
Pure chaos weer. Mijn vader zei het 9 maanden geleden al en het is idd uitgekomen. Misschien wel goed dat mensen gewoon niet weer in een dictatuur terecht willen komen.

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Violent Protest Tactical Guide – Defence Essentials

Many people are either new or relatively inexperienced to violent protests, and considering what is happening these days, you might want to get close to the action and see what is happening or maybe even join the fighting yourself. Before doing so, its essential to know how to do it right. If you take it lightly, you could end up seriously injured, incapacitated or even dead.

In this post I will go through how to prepare and protect yourself from attacks by the Central Security Forces (CSF) and the Military forces, as each uses different weapons and strategies.

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 14:23 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Also, having another person between you and the bullet helps a lot as experience has taught me.

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 19:53 schreef 3-voud het volgende:
Zullen al die landen zich ook zo druk maken om de problemen in Nederland?

Sjezus, wat een ouwe wijven gezeur dit.

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Ahdaf Soueif in Cairo: 'By early evening it was clear that this was Revolution II'

The novelist writes from Tahrir Square where the advice is to wear a gas mask and write your name on your arm


"Eat a good breakfast. Take a rucksack with a gas mask and swimming goggles. Write your name on your arm. Write your details into a message on your mobile. And go to the Square." The tweet appeared after three of the (at least) 38 people killed in the streets of Egypt over the last three days proved impossible to identify. It was picked up by the well-respected Egyptian daily al-Shorouk and published to #Tahrirsupplies – the hashtag that collates what you can bring in to the square if you want to help.

Egypt is much more than Tahrir Square. People across the country are demanding the abdication of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (Scaf). On Tuesday night as the news cameras concentrated on Tahrir, the army and police were attacking citizens in other places: Alexandria, Assiut, Aswan, Damietta, Ismailia, Luxor, Mahalla, Mansoura, Sohag and Suez.

And yet, of course, in this age of spectacle it was the images of Tahrir that were most shocking. We could hardly believe that Scaf would allow that image which had become such an icon across the world – Tahrir Square teeming with citizens, decorated with flags – to reappear clouded with teargas. But they did.

Throughout the day on Tuesday thousands poured into the square. By early evening it was clear that this was Revolution II. In the small hours of Sunday the little field hospital in the small mosque of Ibad al-Rahman had been pleading for a stethoscope, a blood pressure gauge, betadine, cotton wool.

By Tuesday afternoon there were five field hospitals around Tahrir stockpiled with equipment and medicines – all donated by people coming in. Two, Omar Makram Mosque and Qasr el-Doubara Church, cross-reference specialisations. On a wall between them someone has written: "We are the Square: A Church, a Mosque and a Parliament."

The revolution is using what it learned in January and February and adding to it. Signposts, information, directions. Young men on motorbikes ferry the injured from the front lines to the field hospitals. The organisation is breathtaking. And the creativity: when Malek Mostafa – a popular, newly married young activist had his eye shot out by the army, one of the great black lions on Qasr el-Nil bridge suddenly sported an eye patch.

The revolution is now aware how dear it is. Everybody talks about its cost. On Tuesday 200 young doctors walked into the square together in their white coats and distributed themselves among the hospitals – in a few hours one of them, Dr Rania Fouad, had been killed. The people notched it up: the revolution had just become dearer – more impossible to abandon.

On Tuesday night Field-Marshal Hussein Tantawi made a speech reminiscent of Hosni Mubarak in its detachment and tardiness, its formal emptiness, its moral vacuity. And then the teargas started in earnest. People stood their ground because they knew the army wanted to claim that the speech had satisfied people so they'd left.

Events are so many and so fast that it's hard to claim to "know" anything from the midst of them. Yesterday morning Tahrir Square was clean and tidy, settling in for another day of the sit-in; the mood utterly determined.

Just down Tahrir Street, however, I could see the clouds of white teargas. The army and police are using at least two kinds of gas. One hangs around in a dirty white cloud. Another is transparent; you only know it's there because your skin starts to burn and your eyes and all the insides of your head and your chest. Three people so far have choked to death. In a flat on the 10th floor above Tahrir we had to wear gas-masks, the smell was so strong. I've seen a boy convulse and shake, his eyes turn upwards in his head. In the square, a young woman slipped off her gas-mask to say "tell them no one speaks for the shabab, the young people, and we're not leaving till the army council leave".

At 3pm yesterday a group of university sheikhs from al-Azhar brokered a truce and the army stepped between the young people surrounding the ministry of the interior and the police. How real is this? What does it mean? How long will it last? The minister of the interior, in any case, has not been near his office for three days and operations are run by General Hamdy Badeen, who commands the military police. So if police and army are under one commander, how is it that two hours later, at 5pm, a gas canister suddenly crashes out from behind the lines of protecting army and the attacks on the protesters start once again?

Here are things we know: the demand of the protesters is for Scaf to step down from the presidency of Egypt and hand over all powers (except defence) to a civilian government or presidential council. The people will back any one of, or combination of, three of the potential candidates for the presidency; the ones who have refused to meet with Scaf over the last two days.

Every time the military gas bomb a street or fire another shot the people become more determined to see the back of them. In Revolution I the ministry of the interior was the declared enemy of the people. Over nine months Scaf have protected it from any attempts to reform, restructure or investigate it. Since July they have been working with it. This is one of the reasons why Scaf must relinquish power – because they have allied themselves completely with the enemies of the people.

The protesters are unarmed. When the army and police attack them they fight back bravely, using stones from the street, lobbing back gas canisters, keeping up a constant chanting and a constant drumming on the metal lamp-posts and street-signs, occasionally shooting fireworks. The square is well aware of the contrast between their drumming and fireworks and the deadly thud of the sniper and teargas canister.

The leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood has declared against the protests. This has been a very bad move. They're perceived to have sided with Scaf against the people. They've caused a split within their own ranks: some members of the Brotherhood have disobeyed orders and obeyed their consciences and joined the protests. But the Brotherhood can no longer claim that the numbers in the streets are due to the Islamists – the numbers we've been seeing in the streets of Egypt since Saturday night are mostly without the Brotherhood.

We're saying these are "Ayyam el-farz" – the days of sorting, if you like. The situation is very intense. On Wednesday night, at that flashpoint where a truce was brokered at 3pm and broken at 5pm, the army and police shot protesters at sunset prayers. The field hospitals in Qasr el-Doubara Church and Omar Makram Mosque are calling for neurologists; the motorbikes have brought in 50 cases in the last 10 minutes.

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 03:33 schreef okiokinl het volgende:
gaat lekker zo. mn broer is in egypte.. begin me nou wel een beetje zorgen te maken..

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 03:08 schreef rakotto het volgende:
In Alexandria vandaag:

قنابل ملوتووف بلطجية الداخليه بمديرية امن الاسكندريه

Video spreekt voor zich.

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 23:36 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
De MB lijkt nu buitenspel te staan?

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 07:17 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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De politie beschermd een molotov coctail verkoper?

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 05:35 schreef Weum het volgende:

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Waar zit je broer?

Hoe heftig het er rond het Tahrirplein ook aan toe gaat, op de meeste plaatsen in Egypte is er weinig aan de hand. Deze opstanden zijn alleen in een aantal grotere steden. En in die steden is het ook maar in een beperkt gebied onrustig. In veel andere wijken zijn er op dit moment geen problemen.

Zeker als je broer in een toeristenoord als Hurghada of Sharm el-Sheikh zit, zou ik me niet te veel zorgen maken. Tijdens de opstand begin dit jaar is het daar ook rustig gebleven. Praktisch alle Egyptenaren daar verdienen hun geld met toerisme en willen de toeristen echt niet wegjagen met ongeregeldheden.

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 12:37 schreef okiokinl het volgende:

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een paar dagen geleden in cairo, zag ie vanuit zn hotelraam de traangasgranaten in het rond vliegen, is ie maar gauw op de trien gestapt. nu in luxor, daar is het rustig, emailde hij. hij moet wel over een paar dagen weer naar cairo, voor zn terugvlucht..
nou ja, komt vast goed. wel heftig.

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 19:29 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
Amr Moussa heeft bedankt.

SCAF voert nu gesprekken met Kamal Ganzouri.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamal_Ganzouri

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 21:17 schreef rakotto het volgende:

الجيش و الشرطه ايد وسخه ، أحداث محمد محمود

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 21:23 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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Beide zijn feitelijk nog altijd "Mubarak" figuren h� ...

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 21:50 schreef doeterniettoezegiktoch het volgende:

Crazy Egyptian protester jumps on top of armored police vehicle and attacks officer in turret

kom deze tegen .....

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 22:12 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Oud Januari filmpje.

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 22:23 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:


Ministerie van gezondheid: 41 doden sinds vorige week.

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Journalist Mona Eltahawy tells of sex assault in Cairo ministry

US-Egyptian writer says she had bones broken in both wrists by security officials after arrest near Tahrir Square

The prominent US-Egyptian journalist Mona Eltahawy has described a brutal sexual and physical assault that she says she suffered after being arrested by Egyptian riot police during a 12-hour ordeal inside Cairo's interior ministry.

Eltahawy, who writes for publications including the Guardian and the Toronto Star, says she had bones broken in both wrists by security officials, who also grabbed her breasts and genitals.

The award-winning Eltahawy, 44, told her story in a series of tweets at the time of her arrest and after her release.

The incident came amid growing concern over arrests and assaults on journalists, both by the security forces and others. A Spanish photographer was taken to hospital after being beaten up and having his equipment stolen, while an unidentified woman reporter was reported to have been set upon in Tahrir Square by protesters on Thursday and allegedly beaten and stripped in an incident reminiscent of the attack earlier this year on the US television correspondent Lara Logan.

Eltahawy was arrested on Wednesday night near Mohamed Mahmoud Street, the narrow street near Tahrir that has been the scene of some of the worst clashes between protesters and security forces.

Around 11pm GMT she wrote: "Pitch black, only flashing ambulance lights and air thick with gas." She then described the violence occurring around the gates of the American University in Cairo.

"Can't believe it. A cacophony of sirens, horns, flashing ambulance lights." In a penultimate tweet she appeared to write "Beaten arrested in interior ministry."

A series of dramatic tweets on Thursday morning began with the words: "I am free." A few minutes later she reported: "12 hours with interior ministry bastards and military intelligence combined. Can barely type – must go xray arms after CSF pigs beat me." As she would discover later, they had broken her left hand and her right arm, leaving one hand so badly swollen she could not close it.

Eltahawy continued: "Five or six surrounded me, groped and prodded my breasts, grabbed my genital area and I lost count of how many hands tried to get into my trousers. Yes, sexual assault. I'm so used to saying harassment but [they] assaulted me."

Speaking to CNN after the incident, she said: "My left hand and my right arm are broken. This is as a result of a brutal beating by the Egyptian riot police who surrounded me. I was taking pictures and covering events on the front line of confrontations between protesters and the police and the military and a group of five or six riot police beat me, and surrounded me and rained their big sticks down on my arms. I was trying to protect myself.

"They also sexually assaulted me. They dragged me to the ministry of the interior. They dragged me by the hair called me all sorts of insults. And this all happened in about seven to eight minutes."

Summoned for interrogation by military intelligence, Eltahawy at first did not want to go but was warned she would be taken anyway. Despite being blindfolded for two hours and interrogated because she did not have her passport with her, she reported being more properly treated by the army, who photographed her bruises and apologised for her treatment at the hands of the police.

"The past 12 hours were painful and surreal but I know I got off much easier than so many other Egyptians. God knows what would've happened if I wasn't dual citizen."

A few hours after her arrest, Spanish photographer Guillermo Cervera reported seeing what he believed was a US woman journalist being attacked by a mob of about 100 men in Tahrir Square and hearing shouts of "American" and "spy". Later reports suggested that the reporter was French and had been stripped during the assault. Two days earlier, another Spanish photographer, Guillem Valle, was taken to hospital after being assaulted during his arrest by security forces.

Also detained was film-maker Jehane Noujaim, who was arrested while filming Wednesday night's ceasefire between the Egyptian army, Central Security Forces and protesters. Jehane had been interviewing a press officer from the military near the interior ministry when the ceasefire was broken and Central Security Forces fired teargas.

"As she left the scene, a high-ranking military officer grabbed her and accused her of being an Israeli spy and a traitor," said Dina Amer, a New York Times reporter and friend of Jehane, who spoke to the film-maker after her arrest. "He broke her camera and handed her over to the Central Security Forces to be arrested."

"They have all been given the same charges," said Rajia Omran, Jehane's lawyer. "They're charged with throwing rocks and molotovs at the interior ministry and destruction of public property. How can she be accused of throwing molotovs when she was holding a camera? She went to capture a moment of military humanity: the ceasefire. They are clearly targeting journalists and people who look foreign."

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 23:36 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Meh, NDP is NDP. Ik keur hem ook af, hij was immers onderdeel van het Toshka project. Maar om eerlijk te zijn weet ik niet tot hoever hij daar mee schuldig aan is.

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Op vrijdag 25 november 2011 08:16 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

علياء المهدي تتعرض للضرب و الطرد من ميدان التحرير.flv

Het meisje welk naaktfoto's had geplaatst op haar blog. Arm dom kind.

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Op vrijdag 25 november 2011 17:02 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Wat is er gebeurd met haar daar?

En ik vind het niet kort door de bocht door te zeggen dat NDP, NDP is. Punt is, door je lidmaatschap maakte je hun alleen maar sterker, terwijl je net als de oppositie gewoon van buitenaf kon vechten.

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Op vrijdag 25 november 2011 17:39 schreef Doler12 het volgende:

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Wat gebeurt daar allemaal ja en wat word er gezegd?

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'Premier Egypte heeft meer macht dan voorgangers'
CAIRO - De kersverse Egyptische premier Kamal al-Ganzouri heeft vrijdag gezegd dat de militaire machthebbers hem meer macht hebben gegeven dan zijn voorgangers decennialang hebben gehad.

De premier zei dat vrijdag tijdens zijn eerste persconferentie.

Na de persconferentie wilde hij het regeringsgebouw binnengaan, maar de ingang was geblokkeerd door betogers uit protest tegen zijn benoeming.

http://www.nu.nl/buitenla(...)dan-voorgangers.html

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Egyptian military defector: 'I saw people dying and the army gave the orders for us to stand and watch' - video

Speaking next to an open window that looks out on to Tahrir Square, Major Tamer Samir Badr says he now feels it is his duty to protect 'these people who are fighting for our rights'. The 37-year-old claims many officers have been attending the protests secretly in civilian clothes

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Op zaterdag 26 november 2011 00:24 schreef rakotto het volgende:
En de gevechten zijn weer los in #smouha in alexandria.

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Op zaterdag 26 november 2011 11:28 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Die lui denken alleen aan hun eigen zak en niet anders.

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One person was killed when Central Security forces attacked a sit-in in front of the cabinet building in the early hours of Saturday.

Ahmad Sorour died after being run over by a Central Security vehicle. Another protester was hit by a bullet.

Hundreds of revolutionary youth, most of whom were sleeping, were encircled by at least seven Central Security vehicles.

The protesters asked the security personnel to move backward but they refused, and the protesters began throwing stones and attempted to set one of the vehicles on fire. Security forces launched tear gas at them before retreating.

The protesters chanted “The people want to bring down Field Marshal,” “The Interior Ministry are thugs,” and “Down with the rule of the military.” They warned Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri against entering the cabinet headquarters on the blood of the protesters

فض اعتصام مجلس الوزراء 26 نوفمبر

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Delegatie ChristenUnie in Ca�ro voor spionnen gehouden

Een delegatie van de ChristenUnie, die nu in Egypte is om zich te verdiepen in de aanstaande verkiezingen daar en de positie van de kopten in het land, is vrijdag in Ca�ro voor een stel spionnen uitgemaakt.

Dat meldt Tweede Kamerlid Jo�l Voordewind, die in gezelschap van onder anderen Europarlementari�r Peter van Dalen reist. 'Het was wel even grimmig', zei Voordewind zaterdag.

Hij zit met de delegatie in een hotel aan het Tahrirplein en omschrijft de stemming er als 'gespannen'. 'Twee uur geleden is er nog iemand omgekomen bij de demonstratie bij het kantoor de minister-president.' Verder hoort hij oproepen om 'geen blanco cheque' aan de militaire machthebbers te geven, maar te wachten op een andere regering met een agenda voor hervormingen.

Uit contacten met de kopten maakt Voordewind op dat de situatie van de christenen in Egypte ernstiger is dan uit offici�le bronnen wordt vernomen. De bejegening van deze groep zou steeds grimmiger worden: 'Meer beledigingen en geweld.' Ook wordt er volgens het Kamerlid geklaagd dat er geen onafhankelijk onderzoek wordt gedaan naar onlusten tussen moslims en kopten vorige maand, waarbij 27 doden vielen.

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Op zaterdag 26 november 2011 13:03 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Tja, dat krijg je ook als het leger en de politie voor 0.0% veiligheid zorgen.

Krijg je die mensen weg, dan kun je daaraan werken en krijg het land weer op haar poten.

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ElBaradei wil regering van 'nationale redding' vormen

Mohammed ElBaradei, het Egyptische oud-hoofd van het internationale atoomagentschap, is bereid om leiding te geven aan een regering van 'nationale redding'. Daarvoor wil hij zijn ambitie om mee te doen aan de presidentsverkiezingen in zijn geboorteland opgeven.

Dat staat in een verklaring die ElBaradei vandaag de wereld in heeft gestuurd. ElBaradei sprak vanmiddag met maarschalk Hussein Tantawi, de leider van de militaire raad.

ElBaradei wil afstand doen van zijn kandidatuur om zo neutraal mogelijk gedurende een interim-periode leiding te kunnen geven aan zijn land.

Twee politieke partijen en 22 andere oppositiegroepen hebben al aangekondigd om zo'n eigen 'regering van nationale redding' op te zetten. Nobelprijswinnaar ElBaradei moet de leiding krijgen over een gezelschap van vertegenwoordigers van alle politieke partijen. De Opperste Militaire Raad, de militaire interim-regering, moet hen de macht over het land overdragen.

Dit kabinet moet de bevoegdheden krijgen om de overgangsperiode te besturen, de veiligheid te herstellen en de economie weer op gang te brengen 'en de doelen van de Egyptische revolutie te bereiken'.

ElBaradei is een van de meest zichtbare politieke figuren in Egypte. Hij voegde zich gisteren ook bij de demonstranten op Tahrirplein.

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Op zaterdag 26 november 2011 21:50 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Op zaterdag 26 november 2011 22:57 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:

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ElBaradei is gewoon een opportunist zonder echte electorale grond of binding met de bevolking ...

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Op maandag 28 november 2011 17:42 schreef rakotto het volgende:
Zoals verwacht, veel fraude vandaag van de Islamieten. Ze hebben ook veel ruzies gemaakt onderlings.

Anyway: In alexandria, weekje terug:

Smo7a Revolution !!! 22-11-2011 By Ayman Dakrory

راى اهالى المديريه فى الاحداث الاخيره

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Op maandag 28 november 2011 18:59 schreef rakotto het volgende:

Wat mij trouwens opvalt, is dat er veeeeeel meer vrouwen stemmen dan mannen. Misschien is er toch nog hoop.