Revolutie in Egypte #192: Waar het leger met Chemische wapens aanvalt

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Op dinsdag 22 november 2011 22:53 schreef rakotto het volgende:

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Door wie is dit gemaakt? Politie?

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Op dinsdag 22 november 2011 22:55 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

معارك «محمد محمود»: اليوم الرابع

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 00:22 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:
Heeft er eigenlijk iemand nog iets gehoord van die El Baradei de laatste maanden ? Neemt die zelfs wel deel aan de verkiezingen volgende week ? Of was zijn bombardering tot "oppositieleider" iets wat enkel in Westerse media aan bod kwam ?

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 00:22 schreef Joost-mag-het-weten het volgende:
Heeft er eigenlijk iemand nog iets gehoord van die El Baradei de laatste maanden ? Neemt die zelfs wel deel aan de verkiezingen volgende week ? Of was zijn bombardering tot "oppositieleider" iets wat enkel in Westerse media aan bod kwam ?

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 12:12 schreef Ludacriss het volgende:
Pure chaos weer. Mijn vader zei het 9 maanden geleden al en het is idd uitgekomen. Misschien wel goed dat mensen gewoon niet weer in een dictatuur terecht willen komen.

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Violent Protest Tactical Guide – Defence Essentials

Many people are either new or relatively inexperienced to violent protests, and considering what is happening these days, you might want to get close to the action and see what is happening or maybe even join the fighting yourself. Before doing so, its essential to know how to do it right. If you take it lightly, you could end up seriously injured, incapacitated or even dead.

In this post I will go through how to prepare and protect yourself from attacks by the Central Security Forces (CSF) and the Military forces, as each uses different weapons and strategies.

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 14:23 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Also, having another person between you and the bullet helps a lot as experience has taught me.

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 19:53 schreef 3-voud het volgende:
Zullen al die landen zich ook zo druk maken om de problemen in Nederland?

Sjezus, wat een ouwe wijven gezeur dit.

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Ahdaf Soueif in Cairo: 'By early evening it was clear that this was Revolution II'

The novelist writes from Tahrir Square where the advice is to wear a gas mask and write your name on your arm


"Eat a good breakfast. Take a rucksack with a gas mask and swimming goggles. Write your name on your arm. Write your details into a message on your mobile. And go to the Square." The tweet appeared after three of the (at least) 38 people killed in the streets of Egypt over the last three days proved impossible to identify. It was picked up by the well-respected Egyptian daily al-Shorouk and published to #Tahrirsupplies – the hashtag that collates what you can bring in to the square if you want to help.

Egypt is much more than Tahrir Square. People across the country are demanding the abdication of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (Scaf). On Tuesday night as the news cameras concentrated on Tahrir, the army and police were attacking citizens in other places: Alexandria, Assiut, Aswan, Damietta, Ismailia, Luxor, Mahalla, Mansoura, Sohag and Suez.

And yet, of course, in this age of spectacle it was the images of Tahrir that were most shocking. We could hardly believe that Scaf would allow that image which had become such an icon across the world – Tahrir Square teeming with citizens, decorated with flags – to reappear clouded with teargas. But they did.

Throughout the day on Tuesday thousands poured into the square. By early evening it was clear that this was Revolution II. In the small hours of Sunday the little field hospital in the small mosque of Ibad al-Rahman had been pleading for a stethoscope, a blood pressure gauge, betadine, cotton wool.

By Tuesday afternoon there were five field hospitals around Tahrir stockpiled with equipment and medicines – all donated by people coming in. Two, Omar Makram Mosque and Qasr el-Doubara Church, cross-reference specialisations. On a wall between them someone has written: "We are the Square: A Church, a Mosque and a Parliament."

The revolution is using what it learned in January and February and adding to it. Signposts, information, directions. Young men on motorbikes ferry the injured from the front lines to the field hospitals. The organisation is breathtaking. And the creativity: when Malek Mostafa – a popular, newly married young activist had his eye shot out by the army, one of the great black lions on Qasr el-Nil bridge suddenly sported an eye patch.

The revolution is now aware how dear it is. Everybody talks about its cost. On Tuesday 200 young doctors walked into the square together in their white coats and distributed themselves among the hospitals – in a few hours one of them, Dr Rania Fouad, had been killed. The people notched it up: the revolution had just become dearer – more impossible to abandon.

On Tuesday night Field-Marshal Hussein Tantawi made a speech reminiscent of Hosni Mubarak in its detachment and tardiness, its formal emptiness, its moral vacuity. And then the teargas started in earnest. People stood their ground because they knew the army wanted to claim that the speech had satisfied people so they'd left.

Events are so many and so fast that it's hard to claim to "know" anything from the midst of them. Yesterday morning Tahrir Square was clean and tidy, settling in for another day of the sit-in; the mood utterly determined.

Just down Tahrir Street, however, I could see the clouds of white teargas. The army and police are using at least two kinds of gas. One hangs around in a dirty white cloud. Another is transparent; you only know it's there because your skin starts to burn and your eyes and all the insides of your head and your chest. Three people so far have choked to death. In a flat on the 10th floor above Tahrir we had to wear gas-masks, the smell was so strong. I've seen a boy convulse and shake, his eyes turn upwards in his head. In the square, a young woman slipped off her gas-mask to say "tell them no one speaks for the shabab, the young people, and we're not leaving till the army council leave".

At 3pm yesterday a group of university sheikhs from al-Azhar brokered a truce and the army stepped between the young people surrounding the ministry of the interior and the police. How real is this? What does it mean? How long will it last? The minister of the interior, in any case, has not been near his office for three days and operations are run by General Hamdy Badeen, who commands the military police. So if police and army are under one commander, how is it that two hours later, at 5pm, a gas canister suddenly crashes out from behind the lines of protecting army and the attacks on the protesters start once again?

Here are things we know: the demand of the protesters is for Scaf to step down from the presidency of Egypt and hand over all powers (except defence) to a civilian government or presidential council. The people will back any one of, or combination of, three of the potential candidates for the presidency; the ones who have refused to meet with Scaf over the last two days.

Every time the military gas bomb a street or fire another shot the people become more determined to see the back of them. In Revolution I the ministry of the interior was the declared enemy of the people. Over nine months Scaf have protected it from any attempts to reform, restructure or investigate it. Since July they have been working with it. This is one of the reasons why Scaf must relinquish power – because they have allied themselves completely with the enemies of the people.

The protesters are unarmed. When the army and police attack them they fight back bravely, using stones from the street, lobbing back gas canisters, keeping up a constant chanting and a constant drumming on the metal lamp-posts and street-signs, occasionally shooting fireworks. The square is well aware of the contrast between their drumming and fireworks and the deadly thud of the sniper and teargas canister.

The leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood has declared against the protests. This has been a very bad move. They're perceived to have sided with Scaf against the people. They've caused a split within their own ranks: some members of the Brotherhood have disobeyed orders and obeyed their consciences and joined the protests. But the Brotherhood can no longer claim that the numbers in the streets are due to the Islamists – the numbers we've been seeing in the streets of Egypt since Saturday night are mostly without the Brotherhood.

We're saying these are "Ayyam el-farz" – the days of sorting, if you like. The situation is very intense. On Wednesday night, at that flashpoint where a truce was brokered at 3pm and broken at 5pm, the army and police shot protesters at sunset prayers. The field hospitals in Qasr el-Doubara Church and Omar Makram Mosque are calling for neurologists; the motorbikes have brought in 50 cases in the last 10 minutes.

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 03:33 schreef okiokinl het volgende:
gaat lekker zo. mn broer is in egypte.. begin me nou wel een beetje zorgen te maken..

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 03:08 schreef rakotto het volgende:
In Alexandria vandaag:

قنابل ملوتووف بلطجية الداخليه بمديرية امن الاسكندريه

Video spreekt voor zich.

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Op woensdag 23 november 2011 23:36 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
De MB lijkt nu buitenspel te staan?

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 07:17 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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De politie beschermd een molotov coctail verkoper?

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 05:35 schreef Weum het volgende:

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Waar zit je broer?

Hoe heftig het er rond het Tahrirplein ook aan toe gaat, op de meeste plaatsen in Egypte is er weinig aan de hand. Deze opstanden zijn alleen in een aantal grotere steden. En in die steden is het ook maar in een beperkt gebied onrustig. In veel andere wijken zijn er op dit moment geen problemen.

Zeker als je broer in een toeristenoord als Hurghada of Sharm el-Sheikh zit, zou ik me niet te veel zorgen maken. Tijdens de opstand begin dit jaar is het daar ook rustig gebleven. Praktisch alle Egyptenaren daar verdienen hun geld met toerisme en willen de toeristen echt niet wegjagen met ongeregeldheden.

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Op donderdag 24 november 2011 12:37 schreef okiokinl het volgende:

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een paar dagen geleden in cairo, zag ie vanuit zn hotelraam de traangasgranaten in het rond vliegen, is ie maar gauw op de trien gestapt. nu in luxor, daar is het rustig, emailde hij. hij moet wel over een paar dagen weer naar cairo, voor zn terugvlucht..
nou ja, komt vast goed. wel heftig.