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Op maandag 13 november 2017 13:43 schreef Chewie het volgende:
Leuk die users die ook nog blijven hopen/geloven dat Trump ook de popular vote gewonnen zou hebben maar ja als je achter zo'n waardeloze president staat dan heb je dat geloof denk ik wel nodig.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 14:00 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Hebben jullie nu nog steeds niet door dat ik jullie linkse propagande niet ga slikken hoeveel linkjes er ook van bewezen (schuldig gemaakt aan)fake news kranten komen.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 14:09 schreef Belabor het volgende:
Het wordt tijd dat de #fakenews trend eens hardhandig met een hashtag als #truthbomb de wereld uit geholpen wordt.

Domheid viert hoogtij onder Trump.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 14:09 schreef Belabor het volgende:
Het wordt tijd dat de #fakenews trend eens hardhandig met een hashtag als #truthbomb de wereld uit geholpen wordt.

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How Roy Moore Could Lose Alabama’s Senate Race

The detailed, on-the-record accounts from four women describing Roy Moore touching them in sexual ways or pursuing them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s seemed like the kind of news that might force the Alabama U.S. Senate candidate to drop out of the Dec. 12 special election.

Moore could have withdrawn out of embarrassment or because he was worried about losing. He is in clear electoral danger: The average of five surveys1 conducted after the allegations became public has Moore leading Democrat Doug Jones by only 2 percentage points. And key figures in the national Republican Party are either distancing themselves from Moore or calling on him to leave the race.

But Moore is showing no signs of quitting. And he could still win for a simple reason: Alabama voters really do not like electing Democrats. Local Republican leaders in Alabama are standing by Moore, dismissing what the four women said but also emphasizing that putting a Republican in this seat is absolutely necessary — a message the state’s electorate may heed. It’s difficult — but not impossible — to plot out a Jones victory.

Indeed, if you were looking for a state where a Republican candidate could survive such a huge scandal, it would be hard to pick a better one than Alabama. The last Democratic presidential candidate to win the state was Jimmy Carter in 1976. The last to even reach 40 percent of the vote was Al Gore in 2000. The last time a Democrat won a U.S. Senate race in Alabama was 1992. A Democrat hasn’t won a statewide race period since 2008.

Alabama’s demographics make the Democratic path to victory there extremely difficult. White evangelicals, who overwhelmingly vote for Republicans, make up a much larger share of Alabama residents (about 35 percent) than the U.S. overall (17 percent). About 19 percent of Americans nationally live in what the U.S. Census defines as rural areas (which lean heavily Republican), but 41 percent of Alabama residents do. Adults with at least a college degree, a Democratic-leaning bloc, accounted for just 32 percent of Alabama voters in 2016, compared to 40 percent nationally, according to Census figures.

But it’s not only a Republican-leaning state; Alabama’s electorate is also deeply polarized around both partisan and racial lines. In other words, it has very few swing voters — voters who don’t reliably pick one party or the other and who might be swayed by, for example, the national political environment or what’s in the news. The state’s electorate is about 71 percent white and 26 percent black, with small numbers of other groups (e.g. Asians and Latinos). In 2012, the last time we have reliable figures on how different demographic groups voted in Alabama, Barack Obama won an estimated 94 percent of the black vote, but just 16 percent of the white vote. (He won about 41 percent of the white nationally.) And we doubt his dismal showing among white voters was purely because Obama is black, since Hillary Clinton in 2016 lost by an even larger overall margin in the state than Obama did in 2008 and 2012.

The black electorate in Alabama basically guarantees a Democratic pathway to about 35 percent of vote, but with such an entrenched electorate and so few swing voters, it’s very hard for a Democrat to get into the 40s, let alone win a majority.

So how can Jones, the former federal prosecutor running against Moore, win? Assuming turnout rates among different racial groups in December resemble past elections,2 Jones would need to win about 90 percent of the two-party3 black vote, about 35 percent of the two-party white vote and 70 percent of the nonwhite, nonblack two-party vote. Basically, Jones needs to secure a much, much larger percentage of the white vote than Obama in 2012.

Or, let’s look at his path in geographic terms. First, let’s give Jones the areas Clinton won. In 2016, Clinton won a group of small, rural, heavily black counties in central Alabama that are part of the so-called Black Belt. She also won the counties that include the state’s large cities, Montgomery County (Montgomery) and Jefferson County (Birmingham), the latter of which is majority black. That got her to 34 percent of the overall vote.

Where might the rest of Jones’ vote comes from? It’s usually not wise to compare primary elections with the general, since those are two different electorates. But it’s worth looking at the September GOP primary between Moore and sitting U.S. Sen. Luther Strange. Strange’s voters might be more willing to abandon Moore in the general (or just stay home).

Moore won the primary, but he won somewhat narrowly (by 9 percentage points) in part because he was soundly defeated by Strange (by 17 points) in population-rich Jefferson County. Strange also won one of the counties (Shelby) next to Jefferson and Madison County in the north, home to the growing Huntsville area, where the Marshall Space Flight Center and one on the campuses of the University of Alabama is based. Moore, meanwhile, crushed Strange in non-urbanized areas.

Somewhat similarly, in 2012, Moore won his campaign to become chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court for a second time, but by less than 4 percentage points. His Democratic opponent Bob Vance ran up huge margins in Jefferson County (winning by 26 percentage points) and heavily-black Montgomery County (winning by 42 points). Vance also won the Huntsville area, the Black Belt and Mobile County in the southwest, which is less evangelical and more black than the state as a whole.4

So the path for Jones is probably:

Holding down Moore’s margin in rural counties (where many whites without a college degree live). That or, at a minimum, hoping turnout in these counties is depressed.
Winning by an overwhelming margin in the majority-black counties.
Winning big in the urban areas around Birmingham, Huntsville, Mobile and Montgomery.
That is not unlike the Democratic formula in many states, particularly in the South. Indeed, the new surveys suggest Jones may be able put this formula together. In a JMC Analytics poll that had Jones ahead of Moore 48 percent to 44 percent overall, the Democrat was winning 40 percent of the two-party white vote and 92 percent of the two-party black vote.

Also, there are signs some Republican voters may simply stay home in December. A Decision Desk HQ poll taken on Thursday (the day that the latest Moore news broke) showed a tied race in part because more than 10 percent of self-identified Republicans said they weren’t voting for either candidate, compared to fewer than 3 percent of self-identified Democrats who didn’t back Jones or Moore.

These first few polls conducted since the Moore news broke could represent just the beginning of his electoral deterioration. Polls taken immediately after Senate candidate Todd Akin used the phrase “legitimate rape” during the 2012 campaign underestimated his eventual slide in the polls compared to later surveys in the Missouri Senate race. Or, Moore might be able to convince Alabama Republicans that a vote for him is a vote against Democrats, the media and cultural elites, and that the women’s allegations and the Washington Post report that contained them are part a political attack against him. That appears to be his strategy in the wake of this controversy.

It would be an upset if Jones won. This is Alabama. But with Moore’s already weak standing and the latest allegations, it wouldn’t be a huge upset.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 14:33 schreef Monolith het volgende:
Stukje van FiveThirtyEight over de special election in Alabama:

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:03 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Echt gezond eten doet hij trouwens niet.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:06 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Ach kom, iedereen eet wel eens pizza. als je de een jaar lang elke dag staatsdiners naar binnen moet werken snak je op geven moment naar pasta of spare ribs.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:03 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Echt gezond eten doet hij trouwens niet.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:08 schreef Refragmental het volgende:

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Op basis van 1 foto kunnen bepalen of iemand gezond eet. Knap.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:07 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Hij krijgt toch altijd hamburgers aan geboden op staatsdiners?

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:08 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:09 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Bij het staatsdiner van aflopen week zou ik niet kunnen voorspellen wat er dan in zijn hamburger verwerkt zat..

woef.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:10 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Dat is wel een leuke om viraal te laten gaan. Did Donald Trump eat a puppyburger in the Forbidden City?

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CollinRugg twitterde op zondag 12-11-2017 om 19:27:33 Liberals are offended by this video of a Keurig being thrown off of a building.Please retweet to offend a Liberal… https://t.co/PxuRHS4BBv reageer retweet

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jonfavs twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 03:10:34 “How was your day?”“I destroyed my coffee maker because the company that made it stopped advertising on a show whe… https://t.co/JAZkNpg8ai reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:14 schreef Ulx het volgende:
People Destroy Keurig Coffee Makers After Company Pulls Ads From Sean Hannity Programs

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CollinRugg twitterde op zondag 12-11-2017 om 19:27:33 Liberals are offended by this video of a Keurig being thrown off of a building.Please retweet to offend a Liberal… https://t.co/PxuRHS4BBv reageer retweet

Dom volk.

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jonfavs twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 03:10:34 “How was your day?”“I destroyed my coffee maker because the company that made it stopped advertising on a show whe… https://t.co/JAZkNpg8ai reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:08 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:21 schreef J.B. het volgende:

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For one thing, statewide and local legislative elections showed that Trump is monumentally unpopular in politically moderate suburbs. Trump carried disgruntled rural and working class white voters, plus just enough suburban voters to get elected. But the suburbs have had enough — and off-year elections are turning out to be referenda on Trump.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:26 schreef Barbusse het volgende:
Interessant opiniestuk wel over hoe Bannon wel eens een enorme backlash kan ervaren met z'n aanvallen op de establishment republicans: Thank You, Steve Bannon.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:21 schreef J.B. het volgende:

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:41 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Ik zou het niet weten, hij heeft zijn vaste schare gehersenspoelden namelijk.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:42 schreef monkyyy het volgende:

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Zit een kern van waarheid in.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 14:59 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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eea hangt af hoeveel conservatieve standpunten door Doug Jones wordt uitgedragen..

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Although Talley graduated from Harvard Law School and spent four years as a law clerk, he was one of four judicial nominees to receive a “Not Qualified” rating from the American Bar Association. Yet despite his lack of training, Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee approved Talley’s nomination on Thursday and sent it to the Senate for a full vote.

What Talley lacks in experience, however, he makes up for in his support of the president. He also has a quality Trump prides above all else: loyalty. In fact, Talley has posted multiple tweets denouncing former presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton and supporting Trump, the Washington Post reported.

“The worst part of #NeverTrump is that they are helping Hillary win the election. Their self-righteousness while doing it is a close second,” one tweet read.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) called these tweets, along with Talley’s previous blogging in support of the National Rifle Association, a concern.

“Will you commit that if you are confirmed, you will recuse yourself from any matter involving the National Rifle Association as a party or amicus, given your unequivocal statement of partiality toward this organization?” Feinstein asked during the committee hearing.

Talley did not answer.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:58 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Nou ja, het blijft Alabama. Een derde van het electoraat stemt daar volgens mij nog liever op een veroordeelde kinderverkrachter of moordenaar dan op een Democraat.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:13 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Een derde ja. Maar er zijn denk ik ook wel zat republikeinen die dit een beschamende vertoning vinden. De vraag is; stemmen ze toch republikeins, blijven ze thuis, of keren ze de partij de rug toe met een soort proteststem?

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:01 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Trump Wants To Give Lifelong Judgeship To Lawyer Who Has Never Tried A Case

O ja, the best people.

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 15:57:02 Happy to announce, I am nominating Alex Azar to be the next HHS Secretary. He will be a star for better healthcare and lower drug prices! reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:58 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Nou ja, het blijft Alabama. Een derde van het electoraat stemt daar volgens mij nog liever op een veroordeelde kinderverkrachter of moordenaar dan op een Democraat.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:32 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Reken er maar op dat Bannon en zijn site overuren gaan maken.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:34 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Dat blijft gewoon een politieke dwerg die per ongeluk veel macht heeft gekregen.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:32 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Reken er maar op dat Bannon en zijn site overuren gaan maken.

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ThePlumLineGS twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 15:54:59 New post: Let's be clear on the Trump/GOP position on Roy Moore. They do not view allegations of sexual contact with a 14-year-old as disqualifying, and are laying groundwork to accept him as a US Senator: https://t.co/M87x5aVjta reageer retweet

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MikeDelMoro twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 16:31:43 Just in: Gloria Allred is holding a press conference at 2:30pm today in New York with a NEW accuser of former Alabama Judge Roy Moore reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:43 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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MikeDelMoro twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 16:31:43 Just in: Gloria Allred is holding a press conference at 2:30pm today in New York with a NEW accuser of former Alabama Judge Roy Moore reageer retweet

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The Lawfare Podcast, Special Edition: A Person of Flynnterest
The Wall Street Journal this morning broke a major story: Special Counsel Robert Mueller is investigating President Trump's former national security advisor, Gen. Michael Flynn, for allegedly plotting with Turkish officials to arrange the extrajudicial removal of Fethullah Gulen from the United States in exchange for a boatload of money. We put together an emergency podcast with Shane Harris, one of the reporters on the story, Ryan Evans of War on the Rocks, and Lawfare's Benjamin Wittes, Susan Hennessey, Paul Rosenzweig, and Steve Vladeck to cover all the angles. What does it mean? And where does it go from here? Warning: the audio quality is a little rough in spots, recorded conference calls being what they are. (Lawfare).

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The Lawfare Podcast: Populisms Ancient and Modern with Mike Duncan
Political polarization, inequality, and corruption during the period 146 to 78 BC gravely weakened the Roman Republic in the years before its collapse. In his new book “The Storm Before the Storm: The Beginning of the End of the Late Republic,” podcaster Mike Duncan explores this period and how Rome’s politics, which emerged from Rome’s success, subsequently led to the republic’s downfall. Benjamin Wittes interviewed Duncan on his new book to discuss ancient and modern populisms, the parallels between the late Roman Republic and current American politics, and the impact of demagoguery on government. (Lawfare).

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 11:49 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Ik heb een tijdje geleden daarover een heel interessant item op Ted talks gezien. Een afro-amerikaanse wetenschapper is er achter gekomen dat dit een vorm van zelf-programmeren is. Hij kwam hier achter toen hij als experiment lid werd van een rechts-extremistische site. door anoniem berichten uit te wisselen kwam hij er tot zijn schrik achter dat hij zelf veranderde in een rechtsextremist. En hij kwam heel ver in de incrowd dan die organisaties en werd op gegeven moment zelfs een vertrouweling van KKK voorman David Duke. Hij weet dit gedrag aan het echokamer systeem die door fora's worden gehanteerd. Dit is eigenlijk ook geen opzet, het gebeurt, het is een algoritme. Het is net als gericht adverteren. Op gegeven moment wordt je er door beïnvloed, of je nu wil of niet. Later herhaalde hij zijn experiment met een anti-fa site. Met dezelfde uitkomst.

We worden geprogrammeerd. en het ligt in onze aard.

Dit is de voornaamste reden waarom Rusland grote sites als Facebook gebruiken om hun doelen te verwezelijken, indirect en subtiel maken ze er een echokamer van. Die je woorden terug reflecteert en je meningen versterken.

En het is geen nieuw concept.
Je kunt echokamers maken van religie en jeugdclubjes.

Scientology is een ander bekend voorbeeld, daar isoleren ze zelfs mensen om geen externe standpunten in zich te nemen.

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President Trump has tapped Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical executive and a top health official during the George W. Bush administration, to lead the Health and Human Services Department.

The decision to enlist the 50-year-old Azar — who served as president of Lilly USA, the biggest affiliate of Eli Lilly and Co., before stepping down in January to work as a health-care consultant — represents a pragmatic pick. An establishment figure with a reputation as a conservative thinker and methodical lawyer, Azar would be expected to use his experience as HHS general counsel and deputy secretary to pursue Trump’s goals through executive action.

In nominating him Monday morning, Trump tweeted, Azar “will be a star for better healthcare and lower drug prices!” He has a close rapport with the department’s top political appointees as well as Vice President Pence.

Azar has been highly critical of the Affordable Care Act, telling Fox Business in May that the law was “certainly circling the drain” and saying in a speech two months ago that many of its problems “were entirely predictable as a matter of economic and individual behavior.”

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In a June interview on Bloomberg Television, Azar made it clear he thought the administration could shift the ACA in a more conservative direction even if congressional Republicans failed to repeal much of it. “I’m not one to say many good things about Obamacare, but one of the nice things in it is it does give tremendous amount of authority to the secretary of HHS,” he said.

He also supports converting Medicaid from an entitlement program covering everyone who is eligible into block grants, a long-standing GOP goal that has sparked opposition from Democrats as well as some centrist Republicans. He has opposed expanding the program under the ACA to people with slightly higher incomes.

The nominee boasts sterling conservative credentials, clerking for the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia before working under special counsel Kenneth Starr to investigate Bill Clinton’s failed Whitewater real estate investments. Still, administration officials think he could work more deftly with competing health-care interests and politicians than his predecessor, Tom Price.

Price did little to foster better relations between the administration and Capitol Hill despite his dozen years as a Georgia congressman. He stepped down in September after revelations that he had racked up more than $1 million in expenses this year by making official trips on noncommercial aircraft.

Tevi Troy, who succeeded Azar as HHS deputy secretary under Bush, recalled in an interview that the two of them were part of a small group who gathered on the campus of Cornell University for a Federalist Society meeting in the fall of 1988. It was a freezing weekend in Ithaca, N.Y., and the fact that Azar drove up from Yale Law School was a testament to his conservative ideals, Troy quipped. “There were probably only about 30 people there,” he said.

Azar’s ties to Pence date to his days at Lilly, an Indiana-based pharmaceutical firm, when Pence was the state’s governor.

While Azar initially backed Jeb Bush for president in 2016 and served on his Indiana steering committee, he later donated $2,700 to a “Trump Victory” committee. Since 2008, records show, he has donated more than $96,000 to GOP candidates.

In an undated Yale Law School alumni profile, Azar said that he “wrestled with the question” as to whether he should take his first job at HHS but that it set him on the career path he has followed ever since.

“I realized I had found my life’s calling: to help people around the world live longer, healthier, and happier lives,” he said.

As HHS general counsel, Azar worked on the administration’s response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks and the ensuing anthrax attacks, stem-cell policy and the advent of the Medicare prescription drug benefits. He then served two years as deputy secretary, during which he pushed for greater disclosure of prices associated with medical services to help foster competition and contain costs. He also backed converting medical records to electronic form.

“It is absurd to me that one of the largest sectors of the economy is run in a way where consumers don’t have a way to find out about price or quality,” Azar said at an event in Providence, R.I., in 2007. “We will not continue to be the dominant power in the world if we continue to spend so much more on health care than other economies.”

In recent weeks, Azar has been regarded as the only likely choice to be nominated to become the next secretary of HHS, the government’s largest civilian agency, encompassing the National Institutes of Health, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, among other branches.

Anticipating his selection, Senate Democrats have begun preparing for his confirmation hearings and intend to focus on his ties to the pharmaceutical industry, his position on high drug prices and the way he would continue implementing the ACA.

Azar’s selection comes even as Trump has repeatedly attacked U.S. drug companies for profiting too much, suggesting the federal government should negotiate with them to get lower prices.

“The drug companies, frankly, are getting away with murder, and we want to bring our prices down to what other countries are paying, or at least close and let the other countries pay more,” the president told reporters in October. “Because they’re setting such low prices that we’re actually subsidizing other countries, and that’s just not going to happen anymore.”

Azar has opposed such price controls, but he has found other ways to address concerns about drug countries’ hard-charging tactics.

Recruited for a lobbying and communications position at Eli Lilly at a time when it was facing multiple lawsuits and some negative publicity, Azar championed a soft-sell approach in which company officials found the kinds of pharmaceuticals doctors wanted, even if they came from another firm.

“It’s a bet we’re making,” he told the Indianapolis Star in 2014.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:10 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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da's echt 4 sterren als je dit in een vliegtuig kan bestellen.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 08:58 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Jerry Brown, President of the Independent Republic of California

Wel een aardig stuk.

A Year Without a President I Robert Reich

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 16:31 schreef Hexagon het volgende:
https://www.salon.com/201(...)lead-over-roy-moore/

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38 percent of respondents said they were less likely to support Moore as a result of the accusations, while an astounding 29 percent said they were now more likely to support him.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 15:42 schreef monkyyy het volgende:

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Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said Monday that Roy S. Moore, the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama, “should step aside” and that he believes the women who have accused Mr. Moore of sexual misconduct when they were teenagers.

“I believe the women, yes,” Mr. McConnell said at a news conference in Louisville.

Mr. McConnell also said that encouraging a write-in candidate to run in the Dec. 12 special election is “an option we’re looking at.”

Mr. Moore, a judge who was twice removed from the state’s high court, first for refusing to remove the Ten Commandments from the Supreme Court grounds, then for refusing to accept gay marriage, responded defiantly. He showed no sign of leaving the race ahead of Alabama’s Dec. 12 special election date.

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MooreSenate twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 18:40:32 The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp reageer retweet

Republicans here and in Alabama have been up in arms over the accusations, published last week in The Washington Post, that Mr. Moore pursued sexual or romantic relationships with teenagers when he was in his 30s. The reports have upended a race in a state that has not elected a Democratic senator in 20 years.

And the issue shows no sign of quieting down. At 2:30 p.m. Monday, New York lawyer Gloria Allred, who has made her name by championing victims of sexual harassment, will publicly introduce a new woman accusing Mr. Moore of sexual impropriety.

“The new accuser wishes to state what she alleges Roy Moore did to her without her consent,” a news release from Ms. Allred said.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 18:20 schreef Zelva het volgende:

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Trump Judicial Pick Did Not Disclose He Is Married to a White House Lawyer
WASHINGTON — One of President Trump’s most controversial judicial nominees did not disclose on publicly available congressional documents that he is married to a senior lawyer in the White House Counsel’s Office.

The nominee, Brett J. Talley, is awaiting a Senate confirmation vote that could come as early as Monday to become a federal district judge in Alabama. He is married to Ann Donaldson, the chief of staff to the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II. Mr. Talley was asked on his publicly released Senate questionnaire to identify family members and others who are “likely to present potential conflicts of interest.” He did not mention his wife. (New York Times).

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District judges often provide the first ruling when laws are called into question, decisions that can put them at odds with the White House and its lawyers. Last month, for example, judges in Hawaii and Maryland temporarily blocked Mr. Trump's travel ban.

Democrats have strongly criticized the nomination of Mr. Talley, a 36-year-old who has never tried a case and who received a rare "not qualified" rating from the American Bar Association. His nomination advanced through the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday on a party-line vote.

"Mr. Talley served as deputy solicitor general for the state of Alabama, currently serves in the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Policy and was recommended by Alabama's U.S. senators," said Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary. "He is more than qualified to serve in the federal judiciary."

Mr. McGahn has played a key role in helping Mr. Trump transform the federal bench by filling vacancies with young, deeply conservative judges. But a White House official said Ms. Donaldson was not involved in that process.

Ms. Donaldson has emerged in recent weeks as a witness in the special counsel's investigation into whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice. She was interviewed by investigators recently about her detailed notes about conversations with Mr. McGahn on topics including the firing of the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, according to two people briefed on the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation with reporters.

The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, is investigating Russian interference in last year's presidential election and whether Mr. Trump tried to obstruct the Justice Department's inquiry. He has denied any obstruction.

Mr. Trump nominated Mr. Talley in September to the Federal District Court based in Montgomery, Ala. Weeks later, Mr. Mueller's investigators notified the White House that they wanted to interview Ms. Donaldson, but there is no indication that anyone anticipated that at the time of her husband's nomination.

Ms. Donaldson has not had much direct contact with Mr. Trump, but as Mr. McGahn's top aide, she often spoke with him after he met with the president. Ms. Donaldson took notes, which the White House provided to the special counsel's office.

Mr. Talley, who graduated from Harvard Law School in 2007 and is a deputy assistant attorney general at the Justice Department, is the fourth judicial nominee under Mr. Trump to receive a "not qualified" rating from the American Bar Association and the second to receive the rating unanimously. Since 1989, the group has unanimously rated only two other judicial nominees not qualified.

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•George Papadopoulos told Stephen Miller, a senior Trump campaign policy adviser, that he had received “interesting messages” from Moscow – one day after learning that Russia apparently had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.

•The email could shed light on why Miller was reportedly interviewed by the special counsel Robert Mueller as part of his investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 US election.

•Papadopoulos continued to pitch a meeting between Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin meeting to high-level campaign officials.

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The former Trump campaign foreign-policy adviser George Papadopoulos told Stephen Miller, a senior policy adviser, in an email last April that he had received an “interesting message” from Russia – one day after learning that the Kremlin apparently had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee.

The emails were disclosed in court documents filed by the special counsel Robert Mueller’s office and unsealed late last month. The New York Times reported on Friday that Miller was the “senior policy adviser” described, but not named, in the court filings.

Miller, now a top White House policy adviser and speechwriter for President Donald Trump, was in regular contact with Papadopoulos over several months last year, the court filings show. He has reportedly been interviewed by Mueller as part of the special counsel’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the 2016 US election and whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow to influence the outcome.

The court filings say that on April 25, 2016, after “multiple conversations” with a Russian national connected to Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Papadopoulos told Miller that “the Russian government has an open invitation by Putin for Mr. Trump to meet him when he is ready,” referring to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“The advantage of being in London is that these governments tend to speak a bit more openly in ‘neutral’ cities,” he said.

On April 26, Papadopoulos met with Joseph Mifsud – identified in the court filings as an “overseas professor” – for breakfast at a London hotel. There, Mifsud told Papadopoulos that he had learned from high-level Kremlin officials during his recent trip to Moscow that the Russians had “dirt” on Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails,” the filings say.

Papadopoulos emailed Miller the next day.

“Have some interesting messages coming in from Moscow about a trip when the time is right,” he wrote, the court filings say.

Papadopoulos also emailed Paul Manafort on April 27 asking “to discuss Russia’s interest in hosting Mr. Trump.”

Manafort, who was then a campaign strategist but later became the campaign chairman, was described in the court filings as a “high-ranking campaign official.”

“Have been receiving a lot of calls over the last month about Putin wanting to host him and the team when the time is right,” Papadopoulos told Manafort.

‘Is this something we want to move forward with?’

It is unclear whether Papadopoulos ever told Miller or Manafort what those “interesting messages” were. It is also unknown whether Papadopoulos’ overtures extended to phone calls, which would not have been monitored or preserved.

But the young adviser continued to pitch a Trump-Putin meeting to high-level campaign officials, including Sam Clovis, the national cochairman identified in the filings as “the campaign supervisor,” and Corey Lewandowski, the campaign manager.

On April 30, Papadopoulos thanked Mifsud for his “critical help” in facilitating a meeting that would be “history making if it happens,” the filings say.

About four days later, Papadopoulos’ contact at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs told him that the ministry was “open for cooperation.” Papadopoulos forwarded that email to Manafort, asking, “Is this something we want to move forward with?”

On May 5, Papadopoulos called Clovis. After their phone call, he forwarded Clovis the ministry contact’s email with a new subject line: “Russia updates.”

Papadopoulos’ efforts to arrange the Trump-Putin meeting continued through June.

“Russia has been eager to meet Mr. Trump for quite sometime and have been reaching out to me to discuss,” Papadopoulos wrote to Manafort on May 21.

Manafort forwarded that email to his longtime business associate Rick Gates and said, “Let’s discuss.”

“We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips,” Manafort wrote. “It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.”

2 weeks later, Donald Trump Jr. took a meeting

On June 3, the music publicist Rob Goldstone emailed Donald Trump Jr., saying,”The Crown prosecutor of Russia … offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

The information, Goldstone said, was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

“If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer,” Trump Jr. replied.

On June 9, Trump Jr., Manafort, and Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and top campaign adviser, met with a Russian lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya, identified as a “Russian government attorney” in Goldstone’s emails.

On June 14, The Washington Post reported that Russia-linked hackers had breached the Democratic National Committee. Papadopoulos emailed Manafort again on June 19 telling him he would be willing to travel to Moscow to meet with Russian government officials “if it’s in the interest of Mr. Trump and the campaign to meet specific people.”

Manafort and Gates were indicted by a grand jury late last month on charges including money laundering and tax fraud as part of Mueller’s investigation and are under house arrest. Clovis, meanwhile, was interviewed by Mueller’s team and testified before a grand jury last month, NBC News reported.

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MooreSenate twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 18:40:32 The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:05 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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MooreSenate twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 18:40:32 The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 18:58 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:04 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
George Papadopoulos told a senior Trump adviser he had an ‘interesting message’ from Russia — a day after learning of Clinton ‘dirt’

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:19 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Als zijn speechwriter dit wist, zou Trump toch ook op de hoogte moeten zijn geweest?

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:05 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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MooreSenate twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 18:40:32 The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:05 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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MooreSenate twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 18:40:32 The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:26 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:

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Tuurlijk moet hij ervan geweten hebben. Zijn eigen zoon wist er van. Het probleem is het bewijs leveren daarvan.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:32 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Goed, Moore blijft dus doorgaan kunnen we denk ik concluderen. Republicans met waarschijnlijk een write-in kandidaat in de vorm van Strange of mss Sessions? Zou de Bannon-factie Moore blijven steunen?

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:32 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Goed, Moore blijft dus doorgaan kunnen we denk ik concluderen. Republicans met waarschijnlijk een write-in kandidaat in de vorm van Strange of mss Sessions? Zou de Bannon-factie Moore blijven steunen?

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:43 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Normaal gesproken zou ik zeggen dat dit een laatste stuiptrekking is en Moore binnen een week stopt. Maar in deze Trumpiaanse tijden van complete feitenverdraaiing en volhouden van een alternatieve realiteit is er toch een kans dat Moore blijft doorgaan.

Zolang je niets toegeeft is er niets aan de hand. *vingers in de oren*

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:45 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ze hebben die zetel veel te hard nodig dus ze zullen bidden en hopen dat het goed komt in december

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:46 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Hij lijkt me ook vooral niet het type om de handdoek in de ring te gooien. Dit is iemand die uit de supreme court van Alabama gegooid wordt om daarna weer doodleuk mee te dingen naar diezelfde zetel (en nota bene ook nog te krijgen ook!)

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thehill twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 19:37:03 Keurig CEO on dropping Hannity ads: We didn't mean to "take sides" in Roy Moore debate https://t.co/P7QRk8PEk3 https://t.co/RvhT2Pp9A6 reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 20:00 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Koffiemaker krabbelt terug

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thehill twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 19:37:03 Keurig CEO on dropping Hannity ads: We didn't mean to "take sides" in Roy Moore debate https://t.co/P7QRk8PEk3 https://t.co/RvhT2Pp9A6 reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 20:06 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Hoop jij ook dat Moore wint, Nintex?

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jmartNYT twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 20:17:33 News: 2 WH officials float SESSIONS as potential fix to Moore problem. Appoint him back to his old seat if... >> https://t.co/iiYYJOstTR reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 20:51 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:
https://www.cbsnews.com/l(...)ab7e&linkId=44678803

Nieuwe accuser is nu aan het praten.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:04 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:
Pfoe, ik ben benieuwd hoe Moore dit denkt te overleven.

Vrouw vertelt hoe ze als 15-jarige in een restaurant werkte waar Moore haar probeerde te charmeren, waar ze niet op in ging. Na een shift heeft hij haar een lift naar huis aangeboden, waar zij op in ging want 'hij was de DA, ik dacht dat hij iets goeds deed'. Hij heeft de auto naar achter het restaurant gereden en haar vastgegrepen bij haar borsten, haar hoofd naar z'n kruis geduwd. Ze stribbelde tegen, hij deed de deuren op slot, liet haar uiteindelijk gaan met een waarschuwing het niet te vertellen.

Ze zegt dat we bereid is onder eed te getuigen, en zegt dat ze op Trump gestemd heeft en dit geen politieke issue is.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:05 schreef Nintex het volgende:

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Die pagina uit haar jaarboek waar hij in geschreven had niet vergeten.

Moore is er gloeiend bij.

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AlexSilverman twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 20:53:58 Nelson says Moore would eat at the restaurant where she worked, flirting and pulling her hair starting when she was… https://t.co/HhewWuvjiV reageer retweet

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AlexSilverman twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 20:44:11 Beverly Young Nelson alleges Roy Moore “began squeezing my neck attempting to force my head into his crotch.” She was 16. https://t.co/KoOpdI0dH7 reageer retweet

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AlexSilverman twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 20:45:21 Nelson alleges Roy Moore said “you are a child. I am the district attorney...no one will believe you.” Says she will testify under oath. reageer retweet

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AlexSilverman twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 20:48:14 Nelson says she “supported Donald Trump.” “This has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. It has everything to do with Mr. Moore’s sexual assault when I was a teenager. https://t.co/z7fEd06uaL reageer retweet

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AlexSilverman twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 20:59:20 Nelson: “I thought that he was going to rape me. I was twisting and struggling and begging him to stop.” “I thought I was Mr Moore’s only victim.” https://t.co/bBUXqEEz5X reageer retweet

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4everNeverTrump twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 21:02:13 Signature #RoyMooreChildMolester allegedly left in Beverly Young Nelson's yearbook 30 years ago VS. his signature from 2016. https://t.co/if9iwpYmSE reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:11 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Ah, ben weer eens te laat, zie ik. Zou handiger zijn als je niet telkens handmatig die tweets aan hoefde te vullen.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:45 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ze hebben die zetel veel te hard nodig dus ze zullen bidden en hopen dat het goed komt in december

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:12 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:

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Tbh is het ook het een shitty manier van posten. Ik heb 48 keer liever gewoon een stuk tekst, de live-updates van een nieuwspagina schrijven minstens net zo snel mee als twitter. Of wacht 3 minuten tot de hele tekst ergens staat.

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Dear friends and fellow Alabamians,

For decades, Roy Moore has been an immovable rock in the culture wars - a bold defender of the "little guy," a just judge to those who came before his court, a warrior for the unborn child, defender of the sanctity of marriage, and a champion for religious liberty. Judge Moore has stood in the gap for us, taken the brunt of the attack, and has done so with a rare, unconquerable resolve.

As a consequence of his unwavering faith in God and his immovable convictions for Biblical principles, he was ousted as Chief Justice in 2003. As a result, he continued his life pursuit by starting the Foundation for Moral Law, which litigates religious liberty cases around our Nation. After being re-elected again to Chief Justice in 2012, by an overwhelming majority, he took another round of persecution for our faith as he stood up for the sanctity of marriage between one man and one woman.

You can know a man by his enemies, and he's made plenty - from the radical organizations such as the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU to the liberal media and a handful of establishment politicians from Washington. He has friends too, a lot of them. They live all across this great State, work hard all week, and fill our pews on Sunday. They know him as a father, a grandfather, a man who loves God's Word and knows much of it by heart, a man who cares for the people, a man who understands our Constitution in the tradition of our Founding Fathers, and a man who deeply loves America. It's no wonder the Washington establishment has declared all-out war on his campaign.

We are ready to join the fight and send a bold message to Washington: dishonesty, fear of man, and immorality are an affront to our convictions and our Savior and we won't put up with it any longer. We urge you to join us at the polls to cast your vote for Roy Moore.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:16 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:
Overigens zou Moore in de normale wereld verketterd worden, maar Alabama zou Alabama niet zijn...

50 pastors sign letter of support for Roy Moore

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POLITICO_Steve twitterde op maandag 13-11-2017 om 21:15:52 🚨 from NRSC Chair Cory Gardner: Roy Moore is "unfit to serve in the United States Senate and he should not run for office. If he refuses to withdraw and wins, the Senate should vote to expel him, because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the ... Senate." reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:11 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:
Ah, ben weer eens te laat, zie ik. Zou handiger zijn als je niet telkens handmatig die tweets aan hoefde te vullen.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:24 schreef Szura het volgende:
Mooi, wegwerken die smeerlap.
De zetel naar de Democraten aub.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:28 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Als dat gebeurt wordt het voor de Republikeinen al helemaal lastig om nog plannen door de senaat te krijgen.

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A Fifth Woman Accuses Senate Candidate Roy Moore of Sexual Misconduct
WASHINGTON — A fifth woman accused Roy S. Moore, the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama, on Monday of making sexual or romantic advances toward her when she was a teenager, as senior Republicans in Washington called for him to drop out of the race. (New York Times).

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The new accuser, Beverly Young Nelson, told a news conference in New York that Mr. Moore attacked her when she was 16 and he was a prosecutor in Etowah County, Ala. Ms. Nelson was represented at the news conference by Gloria Allred, a New York lawyer who has championed victims of sexual harassment.

“I tried fighting him off, while yelling at him to stop, but instead of stopping, he began squeezing my neck attempting to force my head onto his crotch,” Ms. Nelson said in a statement she issued at the news conference. She said Mr. Moore warned her that “no one will believe you” if she told anyone about the encounter in his car.

Hours earlier, Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, said Monday that Roy S. Moore, the Republican Senate candidate in Alabama, “should step aside” and that he believes the women who have accused Mr. Moore of sexual misconduct when they were teenagers.

“I believe the women, yes,” Mr. McConnell said at a news conference in Louisville.

Mr. McConnell also said that encouraging a write-in candidate to run in the Dec. 12 special election is “an option we’re looking at.”

Senator Cory Gardner of Colorado, speaking in his role as chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, said that if Mr. Moore wins the special election on Dec. 12, he should be expelled from the Senate, “because he does not meet the ethical and moral requirements of the United States Senate.”

Mr. Moore, a judge who was twice removed from the state’s high court, first for refusing to remove the Ten Commandments from the Supreme Court grounds, then for refusing to accept gay marriage, responded defiantly. He showed no sign of leaving the race ahead of Alabama’s Dec. 12 special election date.

In an afternoon statement, Mr. Moore’s campaign described Ms. Allred as “a sensationalist leading a witch hunt, and she is only around to create a spectacle.” The statement, issued before Ms. Allred’s news conference in New York, denied again “any sexual misconduct with anyone” by Mr. Moore.

Republicans here and in Alabama have been up in arms over the accusations, published last week in The Washington Post, that Mr. Moore pursued sexual or romantic relationships with teenagers when he was in his 30s. The reports have upended a race in a state that has not elected a Democratic senator in 25 years.

In a fund-raising appeal, Mr. Moore reached out to his supporters with the subject line: “Mitch McConnell’s plot to destroy me.”

“Apparently Mitch McConnell and the establishment G.O.P. would rather elect a radical pro-abortion Democrat than a conservative Christian,” he wrote.

And Mr. Moore’s wife, Kayla Moore, lashed out in a Facebook post on Monday, complaining about “a witch hunt” in Alabama and claiming that “we are gathering evidence of money being paid to people who would come forward.”

“Washington establishment and Democrat Party will stop at nothing to stop our campaign,” she wrote. “Prayers appreciated.....”

But with Mr. McConnell now firmly against his election, Mr. Moore and his candidacy promise to deepen the divide between Republican leaders in Congress and the populist wing of the party that is standing by the Alabamian. Another Republican senator, Susan Collins of Maine, also called for Mr. Moore to drop out of the race on Monday.

Anxious Republican officials spent much of the weekend trying to determine what, if anything, they could do to halt Mr. Moore without simply turning over the seat. If Doug Jones, the Democratic nominee, wins, it would narrow the Republican advantage in the Senate to a single seat.

But if Mr. Moore stays in and goes on to win, it could leave Senate Republicans with the difficult question of whether to stop him from being seated or seating him and immediately moving to expel him from the chamber.

One idea now being discussed under this scenario, brought up by two different White House officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, would be for Gov. Kay Ivey of Alabama to block Mr. Moore if he wins, and then immediately appoint Attorney General Jeff Sessions to what had been his seat when it becomes vacant again. Mr. Sessions remains highly popular among Alabama Republicans, but his relationship with President Trump has waned since he recused himself from the investigation of the role that Russia played in last year’s campaign.

Republicans in Washington, though, have not ruled out fielding a write-in candidate and some of the party’s outside groups were expected to conduct surveys this week of who would be most formidable prospect, according to officials familiar with the plans.

Democrats, who have been restrained about their prospects in such a conservative states, said that if additional women like the one joining Ms. Allred tell their stories, it would undermine Mr. Moore’s case that he is being smeared in a single newspaper article.

“The more people that come out of the woodwork, the more women with similar stories, the more credible it becomes,” said Zac McCray, an Alabama-based Democratic pollster. “It’s going to become easier to see through Roy Moore’s non-denial denials.”

Democrats have begun raising money in earnest for Mr. Jones, a former prosecutor who sent Ku Klux Klansmen to jail for the infamous Birmingham church bombing of 1963 that killed four young girls.

At the news conference in New York, Ms. Nelson grew emotional as she described the assault, which she said happened one night after her shift ended at a local restaurant, where she was a waitress. Her boyfriend was late that night to pick her up after work, she said, and Moore offered her a ride home. Ms. Nelson said that instead of driving her home, Mr. Moore drove to the back of the restaurant, parked his vehicle and forced himself on her.

Ms. Allred displayed a yearbook she and Ms. Nelson said is signed by Mr. Moore. The attorney said that Ms. Nelson contacted her to “enlist my help and support in coming forward publicly” following the allegations by other accusers. Ms. Allred said that her law firm spoke to Nelson’s mother and sister, who verified Nelson’s story.

The New York Times has not independently spoken to the family. Ms. Allred said that Ms. Nelson is willing to testify under oath.

Ms. Nelson said that she and her husband supported President Trump during the 2016 election, an attempt to neutralize arguments that she is making the claims for political reasons. Ms. Allred also pre-empted attacks that she is acting with partisan interests.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:27 schreef Arcee het volgende:

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Bepleit dat hier.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:29 schreef JimmyDean het volgende:

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Of ze werken gewoon normaal samen, zoals alle presidenten voor Obama en Trump dat konden.

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Army lifts ban on waivers for recruits with history of some mental health issues
WASHINGTON – People with a history of “self-mutilation,” bipolar disorder, depression and drug and alcohol abuse can now seek waivers to join the Army under an unannounced policy enacted in August, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY. (USA TODAY).

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 23-07-2013 om 22:51:06 @rexrode_lisa "@realDonaldTrump you date girls young enough to be your daughter.That's perverted" Dated. No, that's talent. reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 22:08 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 23-07-2013 om 22:51:06 @rexrode_lisa "@realDonaldTrump you date girls young enough to be your daughter.That's perverted" Dated. No, that's talent. reageer retweet

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 19:32 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Goed, Moore blijft dus doorgaan kunnen we denk ik concluderen. Republicans met waarschijnlijk een write-in kandidaat in de vorm van Strange of mss Sessions? Zou de Bannon-factie Moore blijven steunen?

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The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and Wikileaks

The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.

Just before the stroke of midnight on September 20, 2016, at the height of last year’s presidential election, the Wikileaks Twitter account sent a private direct message to Donald Trump Jr., the Republican nominee’s oldest son and campaign surrogate. “A PAC run anti-Trump site putintrump.org is about to launch,” Wikileaks wrote. “The PAC is a recycled pro-Iraq war PAC. We have guessed the password. It is ‘putintrump.’ See ‘About’ for who is behind it. Any comments?” (The site, which has since become a joint project with Mother Jones, was founded by Rob Glaser, a tech entrepreneur, and was funded by Progress for USA Political Action Committee.)

The next morning, about 12 hours later, Trump Jr. responded to Wikileaks. “Off the record I don’t know who that is, but I’ll ask around,” he wrote on September 21, 2016. “Thanks.”

The messages, obtained by The Atlantic, were also turned over by Trump Jr.’s lawyers to congressional investigators. They are part of a long—and largely one-sided—correspondence between Wikileaks and the president’s son that continued until at least July 2017. The messages show Wikileaks, a radical transparency organization that the American intelligence community believes was chosen by the Russian government to disseminate the information it had hacked, actively soliciting Trump Jr.’s cooperation. Wikileaks made a series of increasingly bold requests, including asking for Trump's tax returns, urging the Trump campaign on Election Day to reject the results of the election as rigged, and requesting that the president-elect tell Australia to appoint Julian Assange ambassador to the United States.

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“Over the last several months, we have worked cooperatively with each of the committees and have voluntarily turned over thousands of documents in response to their requests,” said Alan Futerfas, an attorney for Donald Trump Jr. “Putting aside the question as to why or by whom such documents, provided to Congress under promises of confidentiality, have been selectively leaked, we can say with confidence that we have no concerns about these documents and any questions raised about them have been easily answered in the appropriate forum.” Wikileaks did not respond to requests for comment.

The messages were turned over to Congress as part of that body’s various ongoing investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign. American intelligence services have accused the Kremlin of engaging in a deliberate effort to boost President Donald Trump’s chances while bringing down his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton. That effort—and the president’s response to it—has spawned multiple congressional investigations, and a special counsel inquiry that has led to the indictment of Trump’s former campaign chair, Paul Manafort, for financial crimes.

Though Trump Jr. mostly ignored the frequent messages from Wikileaks, he at times appears to have acted on its requests. When Wikileaks first reached out to Trump Jr. about putintrump.org, for instance, Trump Jr. followed up on his promise to “ask around.” According to a source familiar with the congressional investigations into Russian interference with the 2016 campaign, who requested anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, on the same day that Trump Jr. received the first message from Wikileaks, he emailed other senior officials with the Trump campaign, including Steve Bannon, Kellyanne Conway, Brad Parscale, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner, telling them Wikileaks had made contact. Kushner then forwarded the email to campaign communications staffer Hope Hicks. At no point during the 10-month correspondence does Trump, Jr. rebuff Wikileaks, which had published stolen documents and was already observed to be releasing information that benefited Russian interests.

On October 3, 2016, Wikileaks wrote again. “Hiya, it’d be great if you guys could comment on/push this story,” Wikileaks suggested, attaching a quote from then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton about wanting to “just drone” Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange.

“Already did that earlier today,” Trump Jr. responded an hour-and-a-half later. “It’s amazing what she can get away with.”

Two minutes later, Trump Jr. wrote again, asking, “What’s behind this Wednesday leak I keep reading about?” The day before, Roger Stone, an informal advisor to Donald Trump, had tweeted, “Wednesday@HillaryClinton is done. #Wikileaks.”

Wikileaks didn’t respond to that message, but on October 12, 2016, the account again messaged Trump Jr. “Hey Donald, great to see you and your dad talking about our publications,” Wikileaks wrote. (At a rally on October 10, Donald Trump had proclaimed, “I love Wikileaks!”)

“Strongly suggest your dad tweets this link if he mentions us,” Wikileaks went on, pointing Trump Jr. to the link wlsearch.tk, which it said would help Trump’s followers dig through the trove of stolen documents and find stories. “There’s many great stories the press are missing and we’re sure some of your follows [sic] will find it,” Wikileaks went on. “Btw we just released Podesta Emails Part 4.”

Trump Jr. did not respond to this message, but two days later, on October 14, 2016, he tweeted out the link Wikileaks had provided him. “For those who have the time to read about all the corruption and hypocrisy all the @wikileaks emails are right here: http://wlsearch.tk/,”; he wrote.


After this point, Trump Jr. ceased respond to Wikileaks’s direct messages, but Wikileaks escalated its requests.

“Hey Don. We have an unusual idea,” Wikileaks wrote on October 21, 2016. “Leak us one or more of your father’s tax returns.” Wikileaks then laid out three reasons why this would benefit both the Trumps and Wikileaks. One, The New York Times had already published a fragment of Trump’s tax returns on October 1; two, the rest could come out any time “through the most biased source (e.g. NYT/MSNBC).”

It is the third reason, though, Wikileaks wrote, that “is the real kicker.” “If we publish them it will dramatically improve the perception of our impartiality,” Wikileaks explained. “That means that the vast amount of stuff that we are publishing on Clinton will have much higher impact, because it won’t be perceived as coming from a ‘pro-Trump’ ‘pro-Russia’ source.” It then provided an email address and link where the Trump campaign could send the tax returns, and adds, “The same for any other negative stuff (documents, recordings) that you think has a decent chance of coming out. Let us put it out.”

Trump Jr. did not respond to this message.

Wikileaks didn’t write again until Election Day, November 8, 2016. “Hi Don if your father ‘loses’ we think it is much more interesting if he DOES NOT conceed [sic] and spends time CHALLENGING the media and other types of rigging that occurred—as he has implied that he might do,” Wikileaks wrote at 6:35pm, when the idea that Clinton would win was still the prevailing conventional wisdom. (As late as 7:00pm that night, FiveThirtyEight, a trusted prognosticator of the election, gave Clinton a 71 percent chance of winning the presidency.) Wikileaks insisted that contesting the election results would be good for Trump’s rumored plans to start a media network should he lose the presidency. “The discussion can be transformative as it exposes media corruption, primary corruption, PAC corruption, etc.,” Wikileaks wrote.

Shortly after midnight that day, when it was clear that Trump had beaten all expectations and won the presidency, Wikileaks had a simple message: “Wow.”

Trump Jr. did not respond to these messages either, but Wikileaks was undeterred. “Hi Don. Hope you’re doing well!” Wikileaks wrote on December 16 to Trump Jr., who was by then the son of the president-elect. “In relation to Mr. Assange: Obama/Clinton placed pressure on Sweden, UK and Australia (his home country) to illicitly go after Mr. Assange. It would be real easy and helpful for your dad to suggest that Australia appoint Assange ambassador to [Washington,] DC.”

Wikileaks even imagined how Trump might put it: “‘That’s a real smart tough guy and the most famous australian [sic] you have!’ or something similar,” Wikileaks wrote. “They won’t do it but it will send the right signals to Australia, UK + Sweden to start following the law and stop bending it to ingratiate themselves with the Clintons.” (On December 7, Assange, proclaiming his innocence, had released his testimony in front of London investigators looking into accusations that he had committed alleged sexual assault.)

In the winter and spring, Wikileaks went largely silent, only occasionally sending Trump Jr. links. But on July 11, 2017, three days after The New York Times broke the story about Trump Jr.’s June 2016 meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer with connections to Russia’s powerful prosecutor general, Wikileaks got in touch again.

“Hi Don. Sorry to hear about your problems,” Wikileaks wrote. “We have an idea that may help a little. We are VERY interested in confidentially obtaining and publishing a copy of the email(s) cited in the New York Times today,” citing a reference in the paper to emails Trump Jr had exchanged with Rob Goldstone, a publicist who had helped set up the meeting. “We think this is strongly in your interest,” Wikileaks went on. It then reprised many of the same arguments it made in trying to convince Trump Jr. to turn over his father’s tax returns, including the argument that Trump’s enemies in the press were using the emails to spin an unfavorable narrative of the meeting. “Us publishing not only deprives them of this ability but is beautifully confounding.”

The message was sent at 9:29 am on July 11. Trump Jr. did not respond, but just hours later, he posted the emails himself, on his own Twitter feed.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:18 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Het al eerder aangehaalde morele failliet van conservatieve Christenen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 00:13 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
We've now updated the story with @ByronTau's great catch: @realDonaldTrump tweeted about the release of Podesta's emails *15 minutes* after @Wikileaks wrote to @DonaldJTrumpJr about it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/930197548651999232

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On his visit to Puerto Rico, Mr. Trump witnessed the physical devastation and human suffering in person. He extended his hand, not to help those in need, but rather to pat himself on the back.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 21:29 schreef JimmyDean het volgende:

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Of ze werken gewoon normaal samen, zoals alle presidenten voor Obama en Trump dat konden.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 01:10 schreef brokjespoes het volgende:
Ondertussen in Puerto Rico...

...komen er nauwkeuriger schattingen van het aantal doden door orkaan Maria (wat nog steeds moeilijk is door de slechte verbindingen) en lijkt het niet om "tientallen", maar om ruim 400 te gaan. Telt het nu wel als "echte" ramp, oom Donald?

Waarom zoiets in het begin zo moeilijk te schatten kan zijn (zoals bijvoorbeeld ook gebeurde bij de hittegolf in Chicago in 1995) lees je hier: https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)ico-death-maria.html

Treffende zin uit het artikel:

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 00:13 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
We've now updated the story with @ByronTau's great catch: @realDonaldTrump tweeted about the release of Podesta's emails *15 minutes* after @Wikileaks wrote to @DonaldJTrumpJr about it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/juliaioffe/status/930197548651999232

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Starting in September 2016, for the better part of a year, WikiLeaks "made a series of increasingly bold requests, including asking for Trump's tax returns, urging the Trump campaign on Election Day to reject the results of the election as rigged, and requesting that the president-elect tell Australia to appoint Julian Assange ambassador to the United States."

https://arstechnica.com/t(...)ith-donald-trump-jr/

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Locals Were Troubled by Roy Moore’s Interactions with Teen Girls at the Gadsden Mall
Rumors have swirled for years that, in the early eighties, the Alabama senate candidate Roy Moore was banned from a shopping mall for bothering teen-age girls.

Roy Moore, the Republican Senate candidate and former chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, was born in Gadsden, a small city flanked by Interstate 59 and the Coosa River, an hour northeast of Birmingham. Gadsden is hilly, woodsy, blue-collar, and religious. “LEGAL OR NOT, SIN IS SIN,” a sign in front of a church announced yesterday. I saw it as I drove around, crisscrossing George Wallace Drive. I also saw Trump posters, Confederate flags, and dozens of signs for Doug Jones, the Democrat tied with Moore in recent Senate-race polls. Gadsden is the seat of Etowah County, which is a conservative place; Donald Trump received three times as many votes in the county as Hillary Clinton did. (Statewide, he received twice as many.) But I didn’t, in all my driving, see a single yard sign for Moore, the home-town son. Even the parking lot of the one mall in town had more bumper stickers for Luther Strange (four), Moore’s opponent in the Republican primary, than for Moore himself (one). (New Yorker).

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The Gadsden Mall opened in 1974. It has two department stores, Belk and Sears, one on each end. Between them, on Sunday night, I walked past Books-A-Million, Cellular Solutions, a Japanese steak house, Great American Cookies, Blacklight Mini-Golf, KnockerBall Gadsden, an eyebrow-styling kiosk, and a clothing store for young girls, called Justice. A diverse assortment of families wandered around the place, which felt trapped in time. Two young security guards made their rounds. “It gets rough in here on Saturday nights,” one of them told me, mentioning fighting, stealing, and gun-toting. “We still have an active ban list,” the other said, referencing a list of chronic rule-breakers not allowed on mall property. “But it doesn’t go back that far.”

He meant back to the early eighties, when Roy Moore was, many people say, a regular visitor to the mall. On Thursday, the Washington Post reported that, when Moore was a thirty-two-year-old assistant district attorney in Etowah County, he brought Leigh Corfman, who was fourteen years old at the time, to his home and sexually molested her. Three additional women told the Post that Moore had pursued them when they were in their teens and he was in his early thirties. (On Monday, another woman, Beverly Young Nelson, said that Moore assaulted her when she was sixteen years old. At a press conference, she held up a high-school yearbook that she said Moore signed before the alleged assault.) Two of the women say that they first met Moore at the Gadsden Mall, and the Post reports that several other women who used to work there remembered Moore’s frequent presence—“usually alone” and “well-dressed in slacks and a button-down shirt.”

This past weekend, I spoke or messaged with more than a dozen people—including a major political figure in the state—who told me that they had heard, over the years, that Moore had been banned from the mall because he repeatedly badgered teen-age girls. Some say that they heard this at the time, others in the years since. These people include five members of the local legal community, two cops who worked in the town, several people who hung out at the mall in the early eighties, and a number of former mall employees. (A request for comment from the Moore campaign was not answered.) Several of them asked that I leave their names out of this piece. The stories that they say they’ve heard for years have been swirling online in the days since the Post published its report. “Sources tell me Moore was actually banned from the Gadsden Mall and the YMCA for his inappropriate behavior of soliciting sex from young girls,” the independent Alabama journalist Glynn Wilson wrote on his Web site on Sunday. (Wilson declined to divulge his sources.) Teresa Jones, a deputy district attorney for Etowah County in the early eighties, told CNN last week that “it was common knowledge that Roy dated high-school girls.” Jones told me that she couldn’t confirm the alleged mall banning, but said, “It’s a rumor I’ve heard for years.”

Greg Legat, who is now fifty-nine and living in East Gadsden, was, from 1981 to 1985, an employee at the Record Bar, a store that was in the Gadsden Mall. By the early eighties, Legat told me, the mall was “the place to be. There were no empty stores. And lots of kids came around. Lots of teen-agers. You went there to see and be seen.” Legat met his wife, Jo Anne, there. She worked at a restaurant called Orange Bowl. Legat remembers that parents dropped their kids off at the mall, typically unchaperoned. Teens filled the place.

Legat says that he saw Moore there a few times, even though his understanding then was that he had already been banned. “It started around 1979, I think,” Legat said. “I know the ban was still in place when I got there.” Legat recalled a Gadsden police officer named J. D. Thomas, now retired, who worked security at the mall. “J. D. was a fixture there, when I was working at the store,” Legat said. “He really looked after the kids there. He was a good guy. J. D. told me, ‘If you see Roy, let me know. He’s banned from the mall.’ ” Legat recalled Thomas telling him, “If you see Moore here, tell me. I’ll take care of him.’ ” Legat said that his boss, Eddie Hill, also told him to look for Moore. A phone call to Hill’s number was not returned.

Reached by phone on Saturday, Thomas, who lives in the nearby town of Southside, declined to discuss the existence of a ban on Moore at the Gadsden Mall. “I don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. A former manager of the mall, who began working there in the late eighties, confirmed the existence of a ban list, but did not recall Moore being on the list during the manager’s tenure there. Barnes Boyle, who is eighty-six, also managed the mall, from 1981 to 1998. His wife, Brenda, told me that Moore was a longtime acquaintance of his—they went to the Y.M.C.A. together often—and that he planned to vote for him. The recent allegations against Moore, the Boyles thought, are likely liberal propaganda and, as Brenda put it, “a sign of the times.”

Jason Nelms, an I.T. worker who grew up in nearby Southside and now lives in Tennessee, regularly visited the Gadsden Mall as a teen-ager, in the early eighties. “It was a joke from one of the managers/assistant managers that they couldn’t keep an eye on their theater and an eye on the kids outside,” he explained to me via Facebook Messenger. “Us kids would congregate outside on the sidewalk near the theater after the mall closed on Friday and Saturday nights. Anyway, when asked why they had to keep an eye outside, they said that some older guy had been trying to pick up younger girls. They didn’t go beyond that but one of the concession workers whispered to us later that it was Roy Moore he was talking about.”

Gadsden’s current law-enforcement community could not confirm the existence of a mall ban on Moore. But two officers I spoke to this weekend, both of whom asked to remain unnamed, told me that they have long heard stories about Moore and the mall. “The general knowledge at the time when I moved here was that this guy is a lawyer cruising the mall for high-school dates,” one of the officers said. The legal age of consent in Alabama is sixteen, so it would not be illegal there for a man in his early thirties to date a girl who was, say, a senior in high school. But these officers, along with the other people I spoke to, said that Moore’s presence at the mall was regarded as a problem. “I was told by a girl who worked at the mall that he’d been run off from there, from a number of stores. Maybe not legally banned, but run off,” one officer told me. He also said, “I heard from one girl who had to tell the manager of a store at the mall to get Moore to leave her alone.”

The second officer went further. “A friend of mine told me he was banned from there,” he said. He added, “I actually voted for Moore. I liked him at one time. But I’m basically disgusted now, to be honest with you. Some of the things he’s said recently, I’ve changed my tune completely about this guy.” He went on, explaining why Moore no longer appeals to him. “When I heard what he said on ‘Hannity’ the other night,” he said, referring to an appearance Moore made on Sean Hannity’s radio show last Friday, “I almost stood straight up. The thing about how he’s never dated anybody without their mother’s permission, that appalled me. That made me want to throw up. Why would you need someone’s permission to date somebody? I’m probably gonna write in Luther Strange.”

Moore has mounted various defenses since the Post story appeared. Among these is his “special concern for the protection of young ladies,” as he put it to Hannity. The Fox News host pressed for specifics. “I don’t know Ms. Corfman from anybody,” Moore went on. “I never talked to her, never had any contact with her. Allegations of sexual misconduct with her are completely false. I believe they are politically motivated. I believe they are brought only to stop a very successful campaign, and that’s what they are doing. I’ve never known this woman.” When questioned about the other women cited in the Post story, he said that he couldn’t be expected to remember every woman he’d ever dated. “After my return from the military,” he said, “I dated a lot of young ladies.”

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Justice Department to Consider Special Counsel for Uranium One Deal
WASHINGTON — Ten days after President Trump said that he was frustrated with the Justice Department for not investigating Hillary Clinton and other Democrats, the Justice Department told Congress on Monday that senior prosecutors were looking into whether a special counsel should be appointed to investigate them.

The prosecutors will examine reports of misconduct at the Clinton Foundation and the Obama administration’s 2010 decision to allow a Russian nuclear energy agency to acquire much of the United States’ uranium, among other matters, according to a letter sent to the House Judiciary Committee from a senior Justice Department official on Monday. (New York Times).

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“These senior prosecutors will report directly to the attorney general and the deputy attorney general, as appropriate, and will make recommendations as to whether any matters not currently under investigation should be opened, whether any matters currently under investigation require further resources, or whether any matters merit a special counsel,” said the senior official, Stephen E. Boyd, an assistant attorney general.

The decision to examine those matters raises questions about whether Mr. Trump is trying to use the Justice Department to investigate his political rivals and distract from the special counsel’s investigation into his presidential campaign. It also comes at a tenuous time for Attorney General Jeff Sessions, whom Mr. Trump has hinted to advisers he may want to fire. People close to the White House believe Mr. Sessions can stop the president from firing him by appointing a special counsel to investigate the uranium deal. Before leaving for a trip to Asia this month, Mr. Trump expressed his frustration with the Justice Department.

“I’m really not involved with the Justice Department,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I’d like to let it run itself.”

“But, honestly, they should be looking at the Democrats,” Mr. Trump said.

He added: “And a lot of people are disappointed in the Justice Department, including me.”

As the special counsel’s investigation into Mr. Trump and his associates has intensified in recent weeks, Mr. Trump has asked allies and advisers why the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, is not investigating the Uranium One case, according to a person familiar with the president’s discussions on the matter. The allies and advisers have told Mr. Trump that Mr. Mueller’s purview is only to look into Russian interference in the 2016 election, the person said. In response, Mr. Trump has said that the Uranium One relates to Russia.

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People close to the White House believe Mr. Sessions can stop the president from firing him by appointing a special counsel to investigate the uranium deal.

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Unpacking Uranium One: Hype and Law
The latest instance of "what-aboutism" is the House Republican decision to open an investigation of the Uranium One transaction—the allegation that Hillary Clinton transferred control of 20% of America's uranium mining output to a Russian company, in exchange for substantial contributions to the Clinton Foundation from the executives of that same Russian company. Perhaps fearing future revelations of Trump's closeness to Russia, the evident purpose of the investigation is to establish a "Hillary too" counterpoint. Based on what is currently in the public record, little, if anything about the allegation is plausible. In this post, I want to summarize the legal context and known facts regarding the transfer and put the allegations of impropriety in context. (I focus exclusively on the transfer and the U.S. government's approval of it. I am not, in this post, considering the evidence—such as it is—of donations to the Clinton Foundation. My reasoning is simple: if there is no "quo" to be given, the question of a "quid" is moot.) (Lawfare).

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Legal Background—the CFIUS Process
The allegations arise in the context of an intergovernmental process managed by the Department of Treasury involving an inter-agency committee known as the Committee on Foreign Investments in the United States (CFIUS). Since the 1950s, U.S. law has given the president the authority to block transactions that he deems a national security risk to the United States. Begining in 1975, under President Gerald Ford, an interagency committee, CFIUS, was chartered to advise the president on how to exercise that authority. Further significant amendments to the process were made in 2007. Today, CFIUS operates pursuant to section 721 of the Defense Production Act of 1950, as amended by the Foreign Investment and National Security Act of 2007 (FINSA) and as implemented by Executive Order 11858, as amended, and regulations at 31 C.F.R. Part 800.

Originally, the law focused on protecting critical factors of production (like the steel industry) and the possibility that the production of war materials might come under foreign control. More recently, in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, the purview of CFIUS has broadened to include threats that might sound more in the nature of homeland security than as national security threats. The law was substantially revised and modernized in 2007—in part to accommodate this new scope of the review process (and in response to a perceived failure of that review when it permitted the transfer of certain port operations to a Dubai company). When I worked at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), for example, we looked at foreign purchases that involved telecommunications companies and cybersecurity firms as well as transactions involving more traditional defense industry firms.

Notably, CFIUS rarely exercises its authority unilaterally by "pulling" a transaction into the CFIUS process—that is, by taken cognizance of a purchase and affirmatively requiring the parties to the transaction to submit information to the committee about the sale. Far more frequently, parties to a transaction voluntarily notify CFIUS of the pendency of a sale or transfer and seek affirmation that the transaction does not pose a national security threat. The reason for this is simple—in addition to the power to block a transaction before it occurs, the president also has the legal authority to "unwind" a transaction after it has occurred. The specter of unwinding a transaction—frequently involving tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars—long after it has been consummated is quite daunting. As a result, almost any transaction that is plausibly subject to presidential review commences the review process with a voluntary notice from the parties to the transaction.

The president's significant powers of blocking or unwinding a transaction are rarely used. Because CFIUS procedures are cloaked in confidentiality, many (if not most) of the committee's recommendations never see the light of day. Insofar as the public record reflects, since 1990, the president has only unwound two transactions (the most recent being an Obama-era decision to require a Chinese company to divest itself of four wind farms near a U.S. Navy testing facility) and has formally blocked only two or three others (again, the most recent being an action by President Obama to prevent a Chinese purchase). It is fair to say that the presidential power is more of in terrorem in nature than an actuality—often threatened but like any deterrent infrequently deployed.

As a result, the principal way that CFIUS operates is by using the threat of presidential action as a means of securing agreements from the parties to take steps to mitigate the perceived national security threat. These may, for example, involve promises not to transfer intellectual property or physical assets outside the United States. It may involve undertakings to maintain certain contractual relationships with the U.S. government for a period of years. They can also involve audit requirements or other requirements related to areas of corporate governance. In the end, CFIUS holds the upper hand and uses the possibility of presidential intervention to persuade transaction parties to modify their agreements.

The negotiations between CFIUS and the parties are not, however, the only negotiations that take place in this context. In my experience, often the more interesting and vigorous discussions occur within the committee. Typically the commercial agencies (the Treasury Department, which chairs the committee, joined by the Department of Commerce and the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative) will argue against most (and sometimes all) restrictions on the ability of parties to enter into contracts. They contend that such limitations make American companies less attractive to purchase and result in distortions of the market that fail to benefit American consumers. Usually, they are joined by the Department of State, which reaches the same conclusion from a different direction. State's concern is often that adverse action will disrupt foreign relations and might lead to reciprocal limitations being imposed by other nations. Standing on the other side are the security agencies (the Defense Department, DHS and, to a lesser extent, the Justice Department) who often see the potential threats as more significant and seek more robust mitigation measures. Finally, in addition to the standing members of the committee whose equities will be accounted for, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence is present ex officio to give the intelligence community's perspective. And if the question at issue involves a resource with special characteristics, an SME might join—if the sale relates to an agriculture product, then the Department of Agriculture will weigh in. n truth, my own experience is that often the discussions within CFIUS are more contentious than those with the parties to the transaction.

One final point—the CFIUS process has been around for a while. Most of the cases are relatively routine. Mitigation measures are often standard, with a little bit of crafting to meet a specific case. A regular meeting has career civil servants in attendance, not political appointees. Political staff is engaged (typically at the assistant secretary or undersecretary level) only in rare cases and secretarial engagement is even less common—except, of course, when the issue is going to be presented to the president for his actual decision.

Uranium One and Rosatom
Uranium One is a uranium mining and processing compay headquartered in Toronto. It has mining operations all over the world, including Canada, the United States, South Africa, Australia and Kazakhstan (these last are some of the biggest uranium mines in the world). The operations in the United States (in Wyoming) mine a volume of uranium that is roughly 20% of the annual American production. It is that production (reasonably considered a potential issue of national security interest) that caused Uranium One to come to the attention of the CFIUS.

In 2010 a Russian company, ARMZ Uranium Holding, purchased a 51% interest in Uranium One. ARMZ was, at the time, a subsidiary of Rosatom—the Russian State Atomic Energy Corporation (a non-profit appendage of the government). It is fair, then, to say that the 2010 transaction involved the purchase of a controlling interest in Uranium One by the Russian government. The transaction is said to have valued Uranium One at more than $1 billion. (Since that time, ARMZ has been extinguished in corporate reorganization and Rosatom purchased the remaining 49% of Uranium One, so today Rosatom owns the entire company directly.) In addition to approval from CFIUS, the Russian purchase required (and received) approval from Canadian, South African, and Kazakh authorities.

To secure approval from CFIUS, Rosatom is reported to have promised to retain the Uranium One corporate management and corporate structure, not breaking up the company. In addition, the mining licenses would remain with U.S. subsidiaries controlled by U.S. persons. In addition, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission reviewed the transaction and gave its approval (emphasis added below):

NRC’s review of the transfer of control request determined that the U.S. subsidiaries will remain the licensees, will remain qualified to conduct the uranium recovery operations, and will continue to have the equipment, facilities, and procedures necessary to protect public health and safety and to minimize danger to life or property. The review also determined that the licensees will maintain adequate financial surety for eventual decommissioning of the sites. Neither Uranium One nor ARMZ holds an NRC export license, so no uranium produced at either facility may be exported.

By all reports, there was little controversy over the transaction (which occurred during President Obama's "reset" with Russia). Still, it is fair to say that the degree of scrutiny of this transaction seems less than the 2009 proposed purchase of a gold mine by Chinese interests—which was ultimately withdrawn in light of CFIUS objections.

Takeaways - What can we glean from all this?
• It is unlikely that Secretary Clinton personally participated in the transaction. Her assistant secretary says she did not intervene, and given the nature of the transaction and the apparent lack of controversy, that is a plausible scenario. I can see no reason to doubt his account.
• The structure of CFIUS is such that no one agency can control the outcome of the consideration. Here it appears that the entire committee and the NRC were all satisfied with the mitigation put in place. It is a very far stretch to lay this result at State's doorstep—the vigorous objection of any of the security-minded agencies would likely have derailed the transaction, but none, evidently was forthcoming. I have no doubt that State favored the sale—but that is likely the position it would take today under Secretary Rex Tillerson and was surely the position it would have taken under Secretaries Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice and John Kerry. State has a strong institutional bias in favor of accommodating foreign investment in the United States. Here, it seems clear that the Pentagon and DHS did not object either.
• The inherent bias of the process is to approve transactions, with mitigation if needed. Intervention and blocking are rare and require more than a single agency to be activated. Put another way, no single agency has a veto on the transaction—the transaction goes forward unless a substantial majority of CFIUS is motivated by grave concerns to block it. So the most accurate way to characterize this case is that State, along with all the other agencies, declined to recommend a presidential veto.
• Uranium One's licenses are for mining and extraction, not for export. This makes the claim that we "gave away" 20% of America's uranium fairly hyperbolic. The expectation, in light of the NRC's assessment, would have been that the uranium mined would be marketed in America (with the profits going to Russia).
• It is, however, true, that the mining rights to 20% of American uranium are now held by a Russian state agency. That is troubling (and had it been me, I would have tried to generate opposition to the sale). It isn't a "give away," but it is the case that Rusatom has de jure and de facto legal rights that can be exercised to limit production if it wishes to do so.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 03:58 schreef Szura het volgende:
Vandaag ook weer racist Jeff ‘I do not recall’ Sessions in het beklaagdenbankje trouwens.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 02:06 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 22:45 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Whoa, must read!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 04:00 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:

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Is dat een openbare hearing?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 07:34 schreef Szura het volgende:
Zeker dat uranium one-onderzoek . Alles om de aandacht af te leiden van het landverraad van z’n campagne.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 07:34 schreef Szura het volgende:
Zeker dat uranium one-onderzoek .

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 06:10 schreef Montov het volgende:

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Holy fuck.

Voor wie is dit meer beschadigend, Wikileaks of Trump Jr?

Wat vond Trump ook alweer van Wikileaks een paar jaar geleden?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 07:34 schreef Szura het volgende:
Zeker dat uranium one-onderzoek . Alles om de aandacht af te leiden van het landverraad van z’n campagne.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 07:28 schreef nostra het volgende:
"Major statement" als meneer terug is.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/930320191699017730

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 22:45 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Whoa, must read!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 07:28 schreef nostra het volgende:
"Major statement" als meneer terug is.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/930320191699017730

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 03:21 schreef Szura het volgende:
Con Jr, wat een hersenloze debiel .

Mja wat verwacht je ook van een ranzige dierenmoordenaar die trots poseert met z’n ‘trofeeën’ .

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:22 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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WikiLeaks is, als ze dat al niet waren, nu volkomen afgeschreven als onafhankelijke partij.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:20 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Spannend hoor!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:22 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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WikiLeaks is, als ze dat al niet waren, nu volkomen afgeschreven als onafhankelijke partij.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:46 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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treedt hij af?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:48 schreef Abschirmdienst het volgende:

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Tja, dat waren ze al vanaf het begin. Zelden werd er gepubliceerd over iets buiten het Westen.

Wikileaks heeft altijd het Westen willen verdelen. Helaas komen velen pas achter nu het kwaad al geschied is.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:42 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Er reageren volgens mij ook alleen nog maar bots op zijn berichten en die bots kunnen ook vrij weinig anders dan de focus maar weer proberen te verleggen naar de democraten/satanische
Clintons

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 07:43 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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Het was mij vorig jaar al duidelijk dat Wikileaks inmiddels voor de Russen werkt.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:55 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Tsja, het is wel een beproefde tactiek. Eerlijk is eerlijk. Zijn achterban blijft hem trouw want die krijgt zo het idee dat de misstanden die zijn gepleegd door Clinton onder het tapijt wordt geschoven, terwijl Trump van alles over zich heen krijgt. En in feite hoeft de POTUS alleen zijn achterban tevreden te houden om in het zadel te blijven zitten.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:54 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Mwoah, ik weet niet of het kwaad al geschied is. Mensen die WikiLeaks steunen zijn eigenlijk altijd al mensen geweest die het Westen ook verdeeld willen zien. De types die van Schadenfreude houden, ook al zitten ze er zelf middenin. Nihilisten.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:01 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Ja voor zijn achterban werkt het prima zo maar vraag me af of dit genoeg is bij de volgende verkiezingen, het kan dat hij bij de volgende verkiezingen weer net in de juiste staten scoort maar als de democraten met een beetje populaire kandidaat (in vergelijking met Clinton) dan lijkt het me wel klaar.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:55 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Tsja, het is wel een beproefde tactiek. Eerlijk is eerlijk. Zijn achterban blijft hem trouw want die krijgt zo het idee dat de misstanden die zijn gepleegd door Clinton onder het tapijt wordt geschoven, terwijl Trump van alles over zich heen krijgt. En in feite hoeft de POTUS alleen zijn achterban tevreden te houden om in het zadel te blijven zitten.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:05 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Maar is zijn achterban tevreden? Zijn achterban bestaat uit booschmensen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:05 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Maar is zijn achterban tevreden? Zijn achterban bestaat uit booschmensen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:55 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Tsja, het is wel een beproefde tactiek. Eerlijk is eerlijk. Zijn achterban blijft hem trouw want die krijgt zo het idee dat de misstanden die zijn gepleegd door Clinton onder het tapijt wordt geschoven, terwijl Trump van alles over zich heen krijgt. En in feite hoeft de POTUS alleen zijn achterban tevreden te houden om in het zadel te blijven zitten.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:54 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Mwoah, ik weet niet of het kwaad al geschied is. Mensen die WikiLeaks steunen zijn eigenlijk altijd al mensen geweest die het Westen ook verdeeld willen zien. De types die van Schadenfreude houden, ook al zitten ze er zelf middenin. Nihilisten.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 08:55 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
En in feite hoeft de POTUS alleen zijn achterban tevreden te houden om in het zadel te blijven zitten.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:06 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Zo lang Trump ook lekker boos doet en vooral blijft hameren op zijn verkiezingswinst op Satan zit het wel goed gok ik.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:07 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Niet echt, hij heeft naast zijn eigen achterban ook gewoon een behoorlijk aantal gematigde Republikeinen nodig om in 2020 weer herkozen te worden.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:06 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Zie FOK! Genoeg Trumpisten die alles wat hij doet geweldig vinden. Dat zal in de VS nog veel extremer zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:08 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Vooral "liberals" boos maken. Daar geniet zijn achterban van, omdat rancune nog het enige plezier in hun lege levens is. Hier op Fok ook genoeg mensen die geen genoeg kunnen krijgen van "linkse tranen". Als dat je motivator in het leven is dan ben je rock bottom al lang voorbij.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:05 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Maar is zijn achterban tevreden? Zijn achterban bestaat uit booschmensen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:06 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Zo lang Trump ook lekker boos doet en vooral blijft hameren op zijn verkiezingswinst op Satan zit het wel goed gok ik.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:12 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Nee, op een gegeven moment zal hij ook wel iets moeten gaan leveren voor zijn mensen. Roepen dat je een anti-establishment kandidaat bent die Washington gaat opruimen en voor iedere arme boer het leven beter gaat maken heeft een bepaalde houdbaarheidsdatum, en die komt sneller in zicht als je op een gegeven moment daadwerkelijk de macht hebt.

Trump heeft een prima oppositiecampagne gevoerd, maar het gaat wel een vreemd spektakel worden als hij ook in 2020 weer hetzelfde gaat doen terwijl hij net vier jaar de chef is geweest. Daar hou je ongetwijfeld een paar mensen wel mee binnenboord, maar niet genoeg. Tegen die tijd moet hij gewoon een belastingplan hebben uitgerold, moet hij aan de infrastructuur begonnen zijn en bij voorkeur is de bouw van de muur begonnen, want anders zie ik het somber in.

Aan de andere kant dacht ik ook dat hij dit keer al nooit zou kunnen winnen, dus wellicht pakt hij met 80% van de popular vote een herverkiezing.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:12 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Nee, op een gegeven moment zal hij ook wel iets moeten gaan leveren voor zijn mensen. Roepen dat je een anti-establishment kandidaat bent die Washington gaat opruimen en voor iedere arme boer het leven beter gaat maken heeft een bepaalde houdbaarheidsdatum, en die komt sneller in zicht als je op een gegeven moment daadwerkelijk de macht hebt.

Trump heeft een prima oppositiecampagne gevoerd, maar het gaat wel een vreemd spektakel worden als hij ook in 2020 weer hetzelfde gaat doen terwijl hij net vier jaar de chef is geweest. Daar hou je ongetwijfeld een paar mensen wel mee binnenboord, maar niet genoeg. Tegen die tijd moet hij gewoon een belastingplan hebben uitgerold, moet hij aan de infrastructuur begonnen zijn en bij voorkeur is de bouw van de muur begonnen, want anders zie ik het somber in.

Aan de andere kant dacht ik ook dat hij dit keer al nooit zou kunnen winnen, dus wellicht pakt hij met 80% van de popular vote een herverkiezing.

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Brett J. Talley, the young lawyer nominated by President Trump for a lifetime federal judgeship in Alabama, was asked by a Senate committee to disclose family members who are likely to present potential conflicts of interest if he is confirmed.

In response, Talley said he would evaluate “real or potential conflict, or relationships that could give rise to appearance of conflict” and recuse himself from cases if necessary, according to a Senate Judiciary Committee questionnaire.

He did not, however, identify any family members — including his wife, who is one of President Trump’s attorneys.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:15 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Als de Democraten volgend jaar de meerderheid in het Congres veroveren, zal Trump tijdens de campagne roepen dat hij oneerlijk is behandeld en dat al zijn plannen werden geblokkeerd door zijn politieke tegenstanders.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:12 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Nee, op een gegeven moment zal hij ook wel iets moeten gaan leveren voor zijn mensen. Roepen dat je een anti-establishment kandidaat bent die Washington gaat opruimen en voor iedere arme boer het leven beter gaat maken heeft een bepaalde houdbaarheidsdatum, en die komt sneller in zicht als je op een gegeven moment daadwerkelijk de macht hebt.

Trump heeft een prima oppositiecampagne gevoerd, maar het gaat wel een vreemd spektakel worden als hij ook in 2020 weer hetzelfde gaat doen terwijl hij net vier jaar de chef is geweest. Daar hou je ongetwijfeld een paar mensen wel mee binnenboord, maar niet genoeg. Tegen die tijd moet hij gewoon een belastingplan hebben uitgerold, moet hij aan de infrastructuur begonnen zijn en bij voorkeur is de bouw van de muur begonnen, want anders zie ik het somber in.

Aan de andere kant dacht ik ook dat hij dit keer al nooit zou kunnen winnen, dus wellicht pakt hij met 80% van de popular vote een herverkiezing.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:15 schreef _-_ratjetoe_-_ het volgende:
Trump gaat overigens echt wel herkozen worden. Die gooit er nog wat miljarden tegenaan, en met een goed lopende economie (na hem de zondvloed) en dezelfde campagne-strategie als vorige keer wordt het appeltje-eitje.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:12 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Nee, op een gegeven moment zal hij ook wel iets moeten gaan leveren voor zijn mensen. Roepen dat je een anti-establishment kandidaat bent die Washington gaat opruimen en voor iedere arme boer het leven beter gaat maken heeft een bepaalde houdbaarheidsdatum, en die komt sneller in zicht als je op een gegeven moment daadwerkelijk de macht hebt.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:15 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Als de Democraten volgend jaar de meerderheid in het Congres veroveren, zal Trump tijdens de campagne roepen dat hij oneerlijk is behandeld en dat al zijn plannen werden geblokkeerd door zijn politieke tegenstanders.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:19 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Ik ben daar nog niet zo zeker van. Er zijn heel veel mensen die de fabel geloven dat de media en de Democraten hem zonder enige aanleiding dwars zitten. De adoratie van Trump grenst aan een persoonlijkheidscultus. Hij kan in de ogen van veel kiezers niets verkeerd doen en elk weerwoord in de media is een geregisseerd toneelstukje van links.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:29 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

Eigenlijk moet hij gewoon zorgen dat mensen minder gaan betalen en meer gaan verdienen.

twitter:

realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 09:07:29 One of the most accurate polls last time around. But #FakeNews likes to say we’re in the 30’s. They are wrong. Some… https://t.co/1zCve1fACN reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:43 schreef Ulx het volgende:

twitter:

realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 09:07:29 One of the most accurate polls last time around. But #FakeNews likes to say we’re in the 30’s. They are wrong. Some… https://t.co/1zCve1fACN reageer retweet

Beetje suf statement

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:46 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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What happened to: "Don't listen to the polls?"

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“They show those phony statistics where we are 5.4 percent unemployment. The real number, I saw a number that could be 42 percent, believe it or not.”

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“They say 5.3 percent employment. The number is probably 32 percent.”

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“Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. As high as 35 — as in fact, I heard recently, 42 percent.”

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“The numbers are phony. These are all phony numbers. Numbers given to politicians to look good. These are phony numbers.”

twitter:

realDonaldTrump twitterde op zaterdag 04-11-2017 om 13:35:00 Unemployment is down to 4.1%, lowest in 17 years. 1.5 million new jobs created since I took office. Highest stock Market ever, up $5.4 trill reageer retweet

twitter:

realDonaldTrump twitterde op zondag 11-06-2017 om 14:23:01 ...way up. Regulations way down. 600,000+ new jobs added. Unemployment down to 4.3%. Business and economic enthusiasm way up- record levels! reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:02 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Die Jacob Wohl is ook een apart kereltje. Onder elke Tweet van Trump kruipt die man bij de POTUS in de reet.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:04 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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Bot?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:04 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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Bot?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:04 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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Bot?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:07 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Nope. Een of andere oplichter.

http://ritholtz.com/2017/10/curious-case-jacob-wohl/

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:18 schreef Refragmental het volgende:
Ah. We zijn al op het punt beland dat andersdenkenden moeten worden uitgeroeid.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:18 schreef Refragmental het volgende:
Ah. We zijn al op het punt beland dat andersdenkenden moeten worden uitgeroeid.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:20 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Met dezelfde campagnestrategie komen na 4 jaar president te zijn geweest lijkt me nogal onnatuurlijk...

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:25 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Ja. Daar ben ik helemaal voor. Politiek incorrect, hè? Heb jij een hekel aan politiek incorrectheid? Ben jij een SJW?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:19 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Volgens mij gaat het Abschirmdienst meer over zijn werkwijze dan over zijn denkbeelden.

Hoef je alsnog niet uit te roeien, natuurlijk.

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Op maandag 13 november 2017 17:04 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:

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Ik wil er wel even aan toevoegen dat de één veel ontvankelijker is voor indoctrinatie dan de ander. Evolutionair gezien heeft 'geloven' grote voordelen gehad, het maakte de kans op overleven groter.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:32 schreef Abschirmdienst het volgende:

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Correct.

Ik hou niet zo van politiek correct SJW-geneuzel. Zo'n fraudeur mag z'n dagen gaan slijten in een mooie Supermax gevangenis.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:22 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Volvo pulls its ads from Hannity after Moore coverage

Bløødy Sweden!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:24 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Gaan ze nu ook Volvo's van het dak mieteren daar?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:22 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Volvo pulls its ads from Hannity after Moore coverage

Bløødy Sweden!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 09:05 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Maar is zijn achterban tevreden? Zijn achterban bestaat uit booschmensen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 10:29 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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Please do not feed the troll.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:41 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Ulx is de troll in deze?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:24 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Ik denk het. Wel een zwaar leven voor de Trumpanzees. Hollywoodfilms kijkt men ook al niet, want satanische libtards. De NFL boycot men. Geen koffie meer. Nu ook niet eens meer in de auto. Ik hoop voor die lui dat de lokale WC papier fabrikant maar blijft adverteren bij Hannity.

twitter:

realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 10:11:51 THANK YOU to the amazing staff and their families of the United States Embassy in the Philippines. Keep up the GREA… https://t.co/qL8BBq3GOs reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:44 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Ik troll niet hoor. Ik ben gewoon van de orde en tucht. Dat mag toch wel?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:57 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:
Ulx trolt niet, hij heeft gewoon een chronische vorm van sarcasme.

Ik mag dat wel.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:58 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Dat jullie mekaar aflebberen dat heeft een blinde nog door ga verder met de circle jerk dames.

Ik doe een voorzetje :

Trump is slecht! We moeten hem uitroeien!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:58 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

Trump is slecht! We moeten hem uitroeien!

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:03 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Hoeft toch niet? Zo te zien heeft hij alzheimer of is op een andere manier seniel.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 11:58 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Dat jullie mekaar aflebberen dat heeft een blinde nog door ga verder met de circle jerk dames.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:05 schreef Barbusse het volgende:
Naast kritiek op de tax reforms (en hoe ze hoogstwaarschijnlijk de middenklasse zullen gaan benadelen), is er nu ook kritiek op de snelheid waarmee ze de reforms er doorheen willen drukken met het risico dat bedrijven massaal gebruik zullen maken van loopholes in de wetgeving: Haste on Tax Measures May Leave a Trail of Loopholes

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:04 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Ik vraag me af of hij de pap die ze vaak aan de dementen voeren in een verzorgingstehuis lekker vind..

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:14 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Mensen in nederland die een soort van pro trump zijn. Vinden het vooral leuk dat links progressief nederland ( de extreem daarvan) zo huilen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:14 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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Zakje ketchup doet wonderen...

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:12 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Dan lijkt het me nu tijd voor de Democraten om het zelfde methode te gebruiken als ze dit deden bij de healthcare bill. Op het congres bivakkeren. Tot de verkiezingen in Alabama achter de rug zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:14 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Mensen in nederland die een soort van pro trump zijn. Vinden het vooral leuk dat links progressief nederland ( de extreem daarvan) zo huilen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:14 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Mensen in nederland die een soort van pro trump zijn. Vinden het vooral leuk dat links progressief nederland ( de extreem daarvan) zo huilen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:15 schreef Mike het volgende:

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Klopt, dat is het enige dat ze leuk vinden. Ik vind het vrij zielig.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:14 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Mensen in nederland die een soort van pro trump zijn. Vinden het vooral leuk dat links progressief nederland ( de extreem daarvan) zo huilen.

Donair Cam

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:17 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Mensen die "fan" van Trump zijn omdat Wilders hem bewonderd... een teken van pure politieke armoede.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:06 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Nog minimaal 3 jaar dan gaat hij zijn geld verder tellen op de golfbaan.

Tot die tijd triggerd hij jullie helemaal lijp. Doet hij toch nog iets goed.

twitter:

Liveuamap twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 11:28:15 Meanwhile Russian Ministry of Defense used screen from game "AC-130 Gunship Simulator" video on Youtube to accuse U.S. in cooperation with ISIS in Syria via @Mr_Ghostly https://t.co/UiyyiIxAuC reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:19 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Dan moet je toch wel een bijzonder sneu leven hebben als je je gaat vermaken met andermans zorgen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:23 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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En dit haal je uit mijn post?? Volgens mij ben je gewoon heel erg gefocused op wilders.

Ome geert staat hier los van denk ik.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:25 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Je kan je ook minder aanstellen en overdreven gedragen dan hebben ze wat minder te lachen. ( niet direct jij persoonlijk natuurlijk;) maar de sjw anti trumpers. Er komt een kernroorlog en de wereld vergaat morgen nog. Idem met de brexit het is gewoon leuk om slechte verliezers te zien.

Zie het als een dumpertfilpmje maar dan in text.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:24 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Trump doet triggeren?

Laat me niet lachen. Het zijn vooralsnog de Trumpanzees die hun eigen koffiemachines slopen.

https://www.usatoday.com/(...)-fox-show/857563001/

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:28 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Aha, kennelijk gaat het jou niet om wat goed of slecht is voor mensen maar of dat het leven van mensen die jij haat wordt verziekt. Pure afgunst dus.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:28 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Aha, kennelijk gaat het jou niet om wat goed of slecht is voor mensen maar of dat het leven van mensen die jij haat wordt verziekt. Pure afgunst dus.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:31 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Nogmaals minder overdreven reageren. Juist dit is leuk dat je zo snel gepikkerd bent. Grow up denk ik dan. Jullie staan ook te lachen(goedkeurend te glimlachen) als de abortus grens weer wordt opgerekt.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:31 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Nogmaals minder overdreven reageren. Juist dit is leuk dat je zo snel gepikkerd bent. Grow up denk ik dan. Jullie staan ook te lachen(goedkeurend te glimlachen) als de abortus grens weer wordt opgerekt.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:31 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Nogmaals minder overdreven reageren. Juist dit is leuk dat je zo snel gepikkerd bent. Grow up denk ik dan. Jullie staan ook te lachen(goedkeurend te glimlachen) als de abortus grens weer wordt opgerekt.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:33 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Ah, Hendrik is een religekkie.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:32 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Politiek is voor ons geen spelletje zoals je dat wellicht zelf wel ziet. Het gaat om beleid voor een sterke samenleving en toekomst. Niet om het leven van mensen die je haat te verneuken, zoals Trump aanhangers dat zo graag willen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:37 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Religekkie die gelooft in de mens en wetenschap en niet in een boek.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:37 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Religekkie die gelooft in de mens en wetenschap en niet in een boek.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:40 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Waarom ben je dan een zelfverklaard aanhanger van zowel Trump als de Republikeinen?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:39 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Je weet dat er meer mensen zijn als alleen links/progressieve?

En dat die een andere kijk op een sterke samenleving en toekomst hebben. En dat je het daar maar mee te doen hebt. (polderen o.a)

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:40 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Waarom ben je dan een zelfverklaard aanhanger van zowel Trump als de Republikeinen?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:48 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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1ste zowieso niet echt. Ik vind wilders al te grof voor een politici. Daar in tegen niet politiek correct doen , bepaalde dingen aanstippen die andere niet aanstippen ( immigratie, behoud van indentiteit) Dat scoort gewoon heel veel punten bij mij en ik denk bij vele.

In principe vind ik beide partijen niks in de VS. Maar ook daar tikken de republikeinen net meer dingen aan die ik belangrijk vind.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:39 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Je weet dat er meer mensen zijn als alleen links/progressieve?

En dat die een andere kijk op een sterke samenleving en toekomst hebben. En dat je het daar maar mee te doen hebt. (polderen o.a)

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:39 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Je weet dat er meer mensen zijn als alleen links/progressieve?

En dat die een andere kijk op een sterke samenleving en toekomst hebben. En dat je het daar maar mee te doen hebt. (polderen o.a)

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:51 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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en leef jij of je familie in de VS? Kijk, mijn familie wél.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:53 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Als ik jouw hersenscheten zo lees dan ga jij er juist van uit dat de wereld bestaat uit links/progresief aan de ene kant en de trumpanzees aan de andere kant, dat je dit niet ziet zegt wel genoeg over jou

Dat er wel meer smaken zijn snappen de Nederlandse Trump trolletjes niet en dan noemen ze de VVD ook maar links. Blijkbaar kan je volgens die groep alleen rechts zijn als je maagd bent, van lavendel houdt, vrouwen, mensen met een ander kleurtje en met een andere seksuele geaardheid minderwaardig vindt maar zelf de deur van de kast nog niet gevonden heeft. Met die argumentatie zie ik het als libertarier maar als compliment om links genoemd te worden met die afvalemmer wat dan voor rechts door moet gaan wil je ook niet geassocieerd worden.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:52 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Veel van de Trump-adepten zijn gewoon er op uit om anderen gekwetst te zien. Dan ben je in het poldermodel wat mij betreft geen gesprekspartner. Dan zet je jezelf buitenspel. Ik hoef niet in gesprek te gaan met mensen die geen respect voor mij en mijn mening op kunnen brengen met een mening die inherent intolerant is.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:56 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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? We hebben het hier toch over de vs of moet ik een disclaimer plaatsen. Heeft geen familie in de USA maar er toch een mening over .

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:59 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ene vaste gast in dit topic gaf zelf ooit ruiterlijk toe dat hij graag had dat Trump won omdat hij dan een dagje kon genieten van zure gezichten bij DWDD.

Als dat je politieke motivatie is moet je leven heel heel verrot zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:59 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

Vvd is links als je ze alleen bekijkt op het vraagstuk immigratie in de praktijk. In theorie zijn ze er rechts op.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:59 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ene vaste gast in dit topic gaf zelf ooit ruiterlijk toe dat hij graag had dat Trump won omdat hij dan een dagje kon genieten van zure gezichten bij DWDD.

Als dat je politieke motivatie is moet je leven heel heel verrot zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:01 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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En kun je dat ook onderbouwen?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:59 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ene vaste gast in dit topic gaf zelf ooit ruiterlijk toe dat hij graag had dat Trump won omdat hij dan een dagje kon genieten van zure gezichten bij DWDD.

Als dat je politieke motivatie is moet je leven heel heel verrot zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:04 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Google maar naar hoeveel buitenlanders erbij zijn gekomen de laatste 10 jaar.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:04 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Google maar naar hoeveel buitenlanders erbij zijn gekomen de laatste 10 jaar.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:11 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Ah voor iemand die zichzelf geen trumpanzee vind maak je wel veel gebruik van hun argumentatie

Als de hoeveelheid buitenlanders je argument is dan ben je ook niet echt van het geloof in de wetenschap en buiten dat kun je ook buitenlanders binnenhalen vanwege rechtse motieven en wellicht moet je je eens verdiepen in de migratiecijfers als je denkt dat het de laatste 10 jaar zo "erg" is (google maar ).

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:12 schreef Abschirmdienst het volgende:

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Alle blanke Amerikanen zijn buitenlanders.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:13 schreef Barbusse het volgende:
Wat is dit voor vage nondiscussie?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:14 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Ik ken de immigratie cijfers. Onheilspellend voor mij voor jouw waarschijnlijk nog te weinig. We bekijken de wereld vanuit een andere bril.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:59 schreef Hexagon het volgende:

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Ene vaste gast in dit topic gaf zelf ooit ruiterlijk toe dat hij graag had dat Trump won omdat hij dan een dagje kon genieten van zure gezichten bij DWDD.

Als dat je politieke motivatie is moet je leven heel heel verrot zijn.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:14 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Ik ken de immigratie cijfers. Onheilspellend voor mij voor jouw waarschijnlijk nog te weinig. We bekijken de wereld vanuit een andere bril.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 12:48 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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1ste zowieso niet echt. Ik vind wilders al te grof voor een politici. Daar in tegen niet politiek correct doen , bepaalde dingen aanstippen die andere niet aanstippen ( immigratie, behoud van indentiteit) Dat scoort gewoon heel veel punten bij mij en ik denk bij vele.

In principe vind ik beide partijen niks in de VS. Maar ook daar tikken de republikeinen net meer dingen aan die ik belangrijk vind.

Ik ben pro gun , pro life maar vrij links op social/economie. Zeg jij het maar.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:29 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Inderdaad. Persoonlijk vind ik dat we maar een maatschappelijk cordon sanitaire moeten instellen voor die mensen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:46 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Dan snap ik de voorkeur voor de republikeinen niet. Die zijn niet pro-life en bovendien knetterrechts op sociaal en economisch gebied.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:43 schreef HendrikV het volgende:
Me moeder erbij halen.

Hahn

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:53 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Daar ben ik het dan niet mee eens. Gewoon volharden en wat op ze inpraten. Ook zij kunnen op gegeven moment tot inkeer komen. Heb geduld.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:53 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Pro life is dat je vraagtekens bij abortus zet/er tegen bent. Er zijn ook veel democraten pro life maar hun beleid is dat weer niet tot nauwelijks.

Op sociaal en eco gebied sta ik er dan ook totaal niet achter maar dat geldt ook voor de democraten. Die hebben dat d66 gebeuren waar ik jeuk van krijg. Economish rechts maar wel heel pc en wat ik typeer als progressief op ethiek.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:56 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Dat dacht ik vroeger ook

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:54 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Oh ja, pro-life is natuurlijk kritisch richting abortus. Een standpunt dat ik nooit zal begrijpen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 13:29 schreef Mystikvm het volgende:

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Inderdaad. Persoonlijk vind ik dat we maar een maatschappelijk cordon sanitaire moeten instellen voor die mensen. Met zo'n mening doe je gewoon niet meer mee. Als de enige politiek die jij wilt bedrijven politiek is waardoor andere mensen gekwetst zijn dan ga je maar lekker buiten het debat zitten trollen. Je bent volkomen irrelevant.

Zo doet men het in Europa ook met Trump, heb ik het idee. Klimaattop in Parijs? Gewoon Trump niet uitnodigen. Klimaattop in Bonn? De gouverneur van Californië behandelen alsof hij de president van de VS is. Zo pak je trolls aan die geen mening vertegenwoordigen, behalve de mening dat andersdenkenden zoveel mogelijk moeten huilen. Je voert ze niet, negeert ze en gaat over tot de orde van de dag.

Je Doet Niet Meer Mee DEEL 2 - Jan Jaap van der Wal - Dit Was Het Nieuws

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:02 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Gister op bnr gezond.

Er zijn nu meerdere landen in europa waar ze babys vanaf 20 weken kunnen ontvangen en vaak in leven kunnen houden ong 50% vanaf week 20 blijft in leven.

Nederland hier niet aan mee doet

In nederland vangen wij babys pas vanaf 24 weken op mede omdat wij abprtus toelaten tot deze leeftijd. Je mag een baby van 24 weken laten verdoven, in stukjes snijden en dan dmv zuignap eruit teekken 1 voor 1 ( de diverse lichaamsdelen daar het kind al vrij groot is)

Er zijn plekken waar ze deze babys van 20 weken+ legaal nog mogen weghalen. Nederland is 1 van de koplopers in deze.

Er zijn daarom ook heel veel doktoren die het heel raar vinden om een baby van 24 weken weg te halen. Daar het gewoon goed buiten de baarmoeder kan leven.

En nee ik ben geen christen.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:06 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Wat vinden Trumpfans hier nou eigenlijk van?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:06 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Wat vinden Trumpfans hier nou eigenlijk van?

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SLandinSoCal twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 10:16:03 @realDonaldTrump @Twitter @jeffsessions McCain is linked to organized crime. No wonder he’s been acting like a Demo… https://t.co/1xXwOXgKxt reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:06 schreef Re het volgende:

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nou en... prima dat je pro-life bent, prima dat je tegen pro-choice bent

nu weer VS?

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:08 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Laat me raden: hier is niets van waar.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:09 schreef HendrikV het volgende:

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Ik geef het aan omdat het in het gesprek past. Niet zo janken aub.

En ja ik ben tegen het vermoorden van mensen van 24 weken oud.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:06 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Wat vinden Trumpfans hier nou eigenlijk van?

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SLandinSoCal twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 10:16:03 @realDonaldTrump @Twitter @jeffsessions McCain is linked to organized crime. No wonder he’s been acting like a Demo… https://t.co/1xXwOXgKxt reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:22 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:
Wel jammer dat een Republikein een onbehandelbare tumor moet krijgen voor hij of zij ballen krijgt, zegt toch wel veel over ze.

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:06 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Wat vinden Trumpfans hier nou eigenlijk van?

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SLandinSoCal twitterde op dinsdag 14-11-2017 om 10:16:03 @realDonaldTrump @Twitter @jeffsessions McCain is linked to organized crime. No wonder he’s been acting like a Demo… https://t.co/1xXwOXgKxt reageer retweet

SPOILER

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Op dinsdag 14 november 2017 14:32 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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OMFG.