9/11 #38 Waar Usama nogsteeds Hide and Seek speelt

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 10:35 schreef Culto het volgende:
In de Elsevier van 9 september 2006 werd veel aandacht besteed aan Ingeborg Lariby:
een cover-story van 7 pagina's met vele foto's.

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Een van de foto's in dit artikel toont Ingeborg Lariby's creditcards, die anderhalf jaar na 9/11 naar haar ouders in Malaga opgestuurd zouden zijn.

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Dit is voor Gerlof Leistra, de auteur van het artikel, blijkbaar een heel belangrijk gegeven, want ook in de titel van het online-artikel over Ingeborg vermeldt hij deze 4 magische creditcards:
http://www.elsevier.nl/we(...)tste-creditcards.htm

Het vreemde van dit verhaal is dat slechts deze 4 creditcards gevonden zijn:
dus niets van de portemonnaie waarin ze toch hoogstwaarschijnlijk in gezeten zouden hebben, met name haar bankpas van Citibank...
Zijn ze dan zo vanaf de 93e etage naar beneden komen fladderen, zonder dat ook maar het kleinste stukje van haar portemonnaie of kledingstuk waarin die dan weer gezeten zou kunnen hebben erbij gevonden is?
Gerlof Leistra vermijdt deze vraag; voor hem is dit slechts een mooi symbool om zijn Ingeborg Lariby-story te promoten.

Vanaf 2006 (misschien daarvoor ook al) is er op allerlei plaatsen op het internet met de naam "Ingeborg Lariby" allerlei zogenaamde 'spinning' aan de gang.
Spinning houdt in: allerlei trucjes, kleine subtiele manipulaties en verdraaiingen van data in de social media, Facebook e.d., en in allerlei databases, zoals Spoke, de Internet Movie Database en Archives.
Waarschijnlijk wordt dit gedaan om op internet haar identiteit zo troebel mogelijk te maken, verwarring te stichten om tracering moeilijker te maken.
Hieruit kun je op zichzelf al concluderen dat er iets aan de hand moet zijn met haar identiteit wat verborgen of beschermd moet blijven.

Hiervan de volgende 2 voorbeelden:

Omdat ze voor 9/11 ook de Amerikaanse nationaliteit had, zie je allerlei manipulaties in de diverse US-databases, zoals bijvoorbeeld in Archives.com:

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Jarenlang was er geen enkele entry te vinden over haar in deze grote overkoepelende database;
pas vanaf halverwege dit jaar (!) waren er opeens 2 birthrecords en 2 deathrecords opgenomen...
Ze is in 1959 geboren in New York, al die jaren vermeldt Archives niets en opeens dit jaar zijn ze beschikbaar??

Ter vergelijking: haar zuster Alexandra is ook in New York geboren, in 1956:
http://www.archives.com/G(...)_act=AncestorResults

Deze 2 birthrecords staan er al jaren in; (de andere birthrecord is van een zekere Alexander Lariby, geboren in New York in 1972, geen familie..)

Ander voorbeeld:

Op de Spoke database (dat is een soort Linkedin) zijn er al vanaf 2006 allerlei manipulaties met haar naam, zie link:
http://www.spoke.com/info/pFZGN8q/IngeborgLariby

Zoals op deze 2 screenshots:

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In 2008 claimen ze dat ze "vanaf 2006" werkt bij Emerging Pictures en op een ander moment wordt geclaimd dat ze in 2008 ook werkzaam was bij Ira D London Offices!
Als ze in 2001 overleden zou zijn, waarom zijn er dan in 2006 en 2008 nog steeds mutaties op haar Spoke-entry alsof ze gewoon nog in leven is?

Begin dit jaar heb ik Ira D London Law Offices een email gestuurd met wat vragen hierover.
Ook weer geen reaktie op terug gehad, helaas...
"Wie zwijgt, stemt toe", of niet dan ?

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Op donderdag 23 december 2010 20:48 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Overdrijven is ook een vak. Iets meer nuance mag je best toevoegen aan je beweringen. Wanneer ik zeg dat ze van de aardbodem verdwenen zijn, dan kun je dat natuurlijk letterlijk opvatten, echter het is een feit dat ze nooit en te nimmer in de publiciteit verschijnen. Interviews geven ze niet. Waar zitten ze? Er is gewoon verdomd weinig bekend over die gasten.

_{Oja.. nu kom je natuurlijk weer met "Jawel, ze zijn een keer in 2006 op het toneel verschenen om een prijs in ontvangst te nemen. En er is nog niet zo lang geleden nog een docu van ze uitgegeven.}

Dit op zich bewijst natuurlijk niets, dat snap ik ook wel, maar de absurde toevalligheden waar deze docu vol van zit, bewijst temeer dat de hele boel gewoon één grote propaganda film was. Dat JIJ dat niet zo ziet, dat kan.. ik vraag me alleen af of je je weleens echt in de feiten verdiept hebt. Je verdedigd nu een stel fraudeurs. Zo'n nuchter en down 2 earth persoon als jij zou vast in staat zijn om te constateren dat de docu een leugen is.

Barbara Olsen ... sja.. daar noem je meteen iemand. Was die niet getrouwd met de rechterhand van Bush? En ja.. bekend van T.V. inderdaad ( ) Ja, sorry... maar als je me een beetje gevolgd hebt, dan weet je dat ik denk dat de massa media zoals CNN, FOX, MSNBC, etc. tot over hun oren betrokken zijn bij de hoax. Jouw argument voedt alleen maar mijn vermoeden.

Om het Vicsim verhaal enig kans van slagen te geven, moeten er natuurlijk wel een paar mensen tussen zitten die iedereen kent. Wie zegt dat deze vrouw écht is omgekomen? Wie zegt dat ze geen andere identiteit heeft gekregen. Ze ging met machtige mensen om, werkte o.a. bij CNN en FOX news, dus ik sluit dat niet uit.

Dat filmpje, daarvan weet ik niet waar je het over hebt? Ik denk dat je je vergist in een discussie met Ticker.. maar het zou kunnen.

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Ik denk dat ik geen moeite heb met toegeven dat ik fout zit. Ik heb wel moeite met mensen die valse argumenten gebruiken en die zich dood staren op 1 uitspraak zonder zelf echt naar het totaal plaatje te WILLEN kijken. Als je hier alleen maar komt om te debunken, dan vraag ik me werkelijk af wat je hier nog doet. Kijk voor de verandering zelf gewoon eens goed naar wat men zoal constateert. En nee, het zijn geen overweldigende bewijzen waarmee je in 1x een complot aantoont. Als dat zo was, dan was het balletje al lang gaan rollen, is het niet? Het is een absurde opeenstapeling van kleine zaken...

_{Edit: Nog een leuk feitje voor mensen die in numerologie en anagrammen geloven. Ik zelf vind het alleen grappig, maar hecht er geen betekenis aan: "Naudets" is een anagram voor "Duane st", de kazerne van waaruit alles begon. De naam "Gedeon" betekent in het hebreeuws "Destroyer". Bron: http://www.meaning-of-names.com/hebrew-names/gedeon.asp}

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Try as they might, they couldn't get seats on the same plane.

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You may think of it as the strangest collision in the strangest week in American memory. You might call it the deadly serendipity of circumstances, an incredible freak of science and mathematics and airline schedules, or the terrible collateral of terrorist carnage.

Ruth Clifford McCourt and Paige Farley Hackel would say you were wrong to think of their story as random--if only they were still here to tell it.

McCourt and Hackel were best friends for more than a decade. They toured Africa together. They were meditation partners. In their mid-40s, they still were turning heads all over New England. "Soul sisters," they called themselves. Separate the two and the universe might be thrown dangerously out of balance.

Tuesday, they were traveling with each other again, driving to Boston's Logan International Airport to begin a vacation in Southern California. With Ruth's daughter Juliana in tow, they would see friends and spend a few days at Deepak Chopra's Center for Well Being in La Jolla.

But their togetherness ended at the airport: Try as they might, they couldn't get seats on the same plane.

Hackel, 46, left first, on American Airlines Flight 11. Ruth McCourt, 45, and Juliana, 4, boarded United Airlines Flight 175.

In New York, McCourt's brother, Ronald Clifford, had arrived at the World Trade Center from his home in New Jersey. He was 15 minutes early for a business meeting. As he paced the lobby, he felt the building shake.

It was Paige Hackel's flight crashing into the north tower.

Clifford spotted a woman whose skin had been singed. He led her out of the building and helped her find medical treatment, according to relatives. Then he looked up and saw the plane carrying his sister and niece crash into the south tower.

On Saturday, Hackel's family, including her mother, husband and stepson, attended a funeral Mass for McCourt and her daughter in East Lyme, Conn. Today, the McCourt clan will travel north to Boston for Hackel's service. The brother who saw it all insisted on handling the arrangements.

"This is all completely appropriate," said McCourt's mother, Paula Scott. "I knew that if one of them had to go, both of them would have to go. And now our families have come together.

"My daughter and Paige were terribly connected."

One morning 11 years ago, Paige Hackel walked into Clifford Classiques, a spa on Centre Street in Boston that Ruth Clifford had opened in 1985. A conversation about everything from skin treatments to the afterlife ensued. The two women discovered they had, in different ways, devoted their lives to healing.

The third of six children and the only daughter of a paper merchant and his wife in Cork, Ireland, Ruth Clifford had immigrated to the United States at age 17. After living briefly in Los Angeles, she moved to Rochester, N.Y., where she was hired to open satellite campuses around the country for a modeling school based there. In 1982, she settled in Boston.

The woman who entered her shop had a tougher life. Born in the Boston suburb of Framingham, the former Paige Farley, one of three siblings, spent much of her early years battling drug and alcohol addiction. She successfully completed treatment in 1985 and, by the time she met Clifford, she was volunteering with Salvation Army treatment programs and working toward a master's degree in substance abuse counseling.

She sought out spiritual counsel from self-help gurus, notably author Wayne Dyer. She met and married Allan Hackel and they settled into a home in Newton, not far from McCourt's. Their answering machine playfully urges friends to "take a deep breath, smile, enjoy the day."

"Paige had been through a lot," says Mimi Torp of Santa Monica, who was a friend of both women. But now "she was married to a husband who . . . was a very supportive man."

The new friends made a striking pair on the streets of Boston. Clifford, who had done some modeling, was tall with fire-red hair. Hackel, who ran triathlons, had dark hair and bright eyes that commanded attention.

Hackel introduced Clifford to meditation. They had traveled to Chopra's center in La Jolla at least once before. In recent years, Hackel had studied with a colleague of Chopra's, Debbie Ford, author of the New York Times bestseller "The Dark Side of the Light Chasers."

Hackel was a member of an "integrative coaching" group that met over the phone every Tuesday. She found Ford's "shadow process" so inspiring that she made plans to start an AM radio show to be called "Spiritually Speaking."

"For many people who have been on the road to recovery, it's not about trying to get rid of or change everything," says Ford. "It's about learning to love and integrate all parts of you."

In September 1994, Clifford married David McCourt, owner of a construction business, in a ceremony at the Vatican. When Juliana was born, Hackel was her godmother. In 1999, the McCourts moved to a waterfront home in New London, Conn., David's hometown.

To bridge the distance, the friends scheduled outings. Hackel would come to Connecticut for McCourt's St. Patrick's Day parties, or McCourt would travel north to join Hackel on trips to Loon Mountain in New Hampshire.

In January of this year, McCourt, Hackel and Hackel's mother, Marjorie Farley, visited South Africa and Zimbabwe. In March, they went skiing. Last month, McCourt helped her friend organize a birthday party for Hackel's mother in Boston.

The California trip would be another opportunity to be together. McCourt would tag along with Hackel on a four-day intensive session with Ford at Chopra's. They would visit friends in Los Angeles and take Juliana to Disneyland.

It wasn't until Tuesday night that their loved ones pieced together the details of the tragedy. Family and friends said they took small comfort--but comfort nonetheless--in the fact that the two friends had perished together.

In California, Ford said she believes that in some way, the proximity of the deaths of Hackel and the two McCourts were "planned, fated. . . . I don't really believe in coincidences."

Family and friends say McCourt and Hackel would have responded to the terrorist attack by emphasizing peace and negotiation.

In New London, the Juliana McCourt Children's Educational Fund has been established to help foreign students come to the United States and study subjects related to healing and tolerance. In California, a Paige Farley Scholarship will allow people to attend Ford's training program tuition-free.

As she prepared for the two funerals, Paula Scott, McCourt's mother, kept replaying the World Trade Center crashes in her mind. She says she somehow knew at the moment she saw the second plane crash on TV that she had lost her granddaughter, her daughter and her daughter's best friend.

"I know it wasn't physically possible," she says. "But I had a vision of all of them holding onto each other."

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Ruth Magdaline (Cliffort) McCourt
A tribute in the2,996 project

On Tuesday, September 11, 2001, Ruth McCourt, her four year old daughter Juliana and her best friend Paige Farley-Hackel drove to Boston’s Logan International Airport. They were on their way to Southern California. They were going to see friends, they were going to spend a few days at Deepak Chopra’s Center for Well-Being where Paige would receive certification in the Debbie Ford Shadow Process and they were going to take “Miss J” to Disneyland. Because they wanted to use frequent flier miles, they wound up on different airlines. Paige was on American Airlines flight 11, Ruth and Juliana were on United flight 175. They would meet up at the airport in Los Angeles, California, and begin their mini-vacation.




That same morning Ruth’s brother Ron Clifford, who lives in New Jersey, had a meeting scheduled at the Marriott Marquis in Midtown, but it was moved to the Marriott World Trade Center at the last moment. He and Ruth were especially close, she’d even instructed him on which tie to wear for the meeting. It was a beautiful day, his daughter Monica’s 11th birthday, and this meeting was extremely important to his career future.

He arrived about 15 minutes early, and was standing in the lobby of the WTC when the first plane, American 11, hit the north tower. He wasn’t sure what had happened, but a terribly burned woman appeared in front of him and he wound up helping her. He was praying with her and trying to keep her talking (and conscious) when the second plane hit the south tower and he knew he had to get her out of there quickly. (The woman was 40-year old Jennieann Maffeo, who had been standing at a bus stop outside the twin towers. She had been doused with burning jet fuel when the first plane crashed, and had suffered third degree burns over more than 90% of her body. Forty two days after Ron Clifford led her from the WTC she died of kidney failure.) It wasn’t until after he’d gotten the lady to an ambulance and boarded the ferry to New Jersey that he learned the cause of the fires. He was glad his sister and niece had left for California the day before and hoped that they weren’t watching CNN. He didn’t want them seeing this and worrying about his safety. As he watched the first tower collapse from the ferry, he realized that by giving him something to focus on, the lady he’d helped had probably saved his life.

Ron made it home, stunned, shaken and devastated by all that he had witnessed. Later that evening he learned that Ruth and Juliana had not left the day before, and had, in fact, been on that second plane which crashed into the south tower at 9:02:54 a.m., and that Paige Farley-Hackel, a friend of the entire family, had been on the first, which crashed into the north tower at 8:46:26 a.m.

Days later, as she prepared for the funerals, Paula Scott, Ruth’s mom, kept replaying the World Trade Center crashes in her mind. She says she somehow knew at the moment she saw the second plane crash on TV that she had lost her granddaughter, her daughter and her daughter’s best friend. “I know it wasn’t physically possible, but I had a vision of all of them holding onto each other.”

Ron asked a friend of his, a NY policeman, to retrieve some ashes for Ron to send back to a brother in Ireland. When Tommy the cop gave Ron the ashes, he also gave him a piece of glass, tinted black, irregularly shaped, but smooth on the edges. It’s a piece of the World Trade Center, and now Ron carries it all the time. ”It gives me some solace to have something. Some remembrance. It’s tempered glass. You can hold it as tight as you can and it’s not going to cut you.” Ron had his piece of glass engraved. On one side it reads, ”What a sister.” On the other, ”In the life.”

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“In the life,” was Ruth’s saying. In addition to her tall, elegant beauty, the redhead was blessed with a sharp, quick mind and stood firm in her convictions. She often began her proclamations with the phrase, which is an old Irish expression meaning something akin to “in this lifetime.”

Born on June 4, 1956, Ruth was the third of six children and the only daughter born to her parents in Ballintemple, County Cork, Ireland. She immigrated with her family to the United States in 1973 at the age of 17. She first lived in Pacific Palisades with her family, her step-father was a professor at UCLA.

After doing some modeling of her own, Ruth moved to Rochester, NY, where she worked for a modeling school: she was tasked with opening new branches of the school around the country. In 1982, she settled just outside of Boston in Newton, Massachusetts, and in 1985, she opened a day spa there, “Clifford Classiques” which eventually grew into full service spas and salons with its own line of products.

Paige and Ruth had met in 1989, when Paige came to Ruth’s Newton spa. The two women began chatting about this and that, and, as they realized how much they had in common, something sparked between them. It was the beginning of a lifelong friendship, the women considered themselves soul-sisters. Paige became a part of Ruth’s extended family, who liked to joke that if you separated the two of them the universe might be thrown dangerously out of balance.

In September 1994, Ruth married David McCourt, owner of Abco Wire and Metal Products, in a ceremony at the Vatican. She sold her business and the happy couple moved to New London, Connecticut, which was David’s hometown. Paige still lived in Newton, but the women were as close as ever and frequently traveled together or spent time at one another’s homes. When Juliana was born on May 4, 1997, Paige was named her Godmother.

In 2001, Ruth and Paige had been busy. In January, along with Paige’s mom Marjorie, they visited South Africa and Zimbabwe. In March, Paige had gone to Ruth’s St. Patrick’s Day party in Connecticut, and later that month they’d gone on a skiing trip. In August, they’d organized a birthday party for Paige’s mom in Boston. Their September trip would include several days with friends and a surprise visit to Disneyland for Juliana.

Ruth loved gardening, reading and cooking. She and Paige were meditation partners, while she and her mother were active members of the New London Gardening Club. She lived in an elegant home built on the foundation of an old casino. The property had three beaches, and she had created a meditation garden. Ruth spent quite a bit of time getting her garden just right. Her garden featured flowing water, a small bridge, sculpture and benches.

Ruth and her mom had also recreated Mr. McGregor’s Garden, a children’s vegetable and flower garden complete with a potter’s shed. Ruth’s garden served as the inspiration for the McCourt Memorial Garden, which was dedicated four years after her death.

Ruth was extremely close to her family (including those still in Ireland) and doted on her husband and daughter. Family and friends describe her as very spiritual.

About a week before the tragedy, Ruth had called her brother Ron to relate an anecdote about Juliana. She told how she’d instructed Juliana to eat her cheerios, and the little girl had replied “yes, your highness.” Through her laughter Ruth asked Ron “where is she getting this stuff?” Like her mom, Juliana was very feminine and very concerned about others, a little girl who would question strangers who seemed sad about what was bothering them.

Ruth’s family comforts themselves with their belief that when the plane crashed, Ruth was probably calm, holding her daughter tightly and softly singing in her ear.

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In New London, four years after the attack, the governor officially opened the McCourt Memorial Garden, a six-acre garden inspired by the memory of Ruth and Juliana. Ruth’s mom describes it as a contemplative and beautiful spot that she hopes will inspire thoughts of peace and love. “The first time I walked through the area I felt a profound peace come over me. Amid all the turmoil, it is such a joy to be able to connect with nature. Every time I am at the Garden I am reminded of the words ‘one is nearer to heaven in the garden than anywhere else on earth.’ This is my peaceful place and our family is so grateful to all those who have made this Garden possible. I hope that everyone who visits this Garden will share in the joy that it has brought to so many.”

The garden features several inviting areas including a Children’s Secret Garden, where visitors will find whimsical mushroom-shaped tables and stools and a “Fairy Circle” perfect for storytelling, birthday parties or picnic lunches for the many school children who visit the Museum. A brick “tea terrace” on the side of the historic Deshon-Allyn House has been named after Ruth McCourt in celebration of her Irish heritage.

"Dont Believe the HYPE"- 911 PROPAGANDA

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 12:45 schreef Culto het volgende:

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Als je uitgaat van het volgende:

- De andere 4 Regus- "slachtoffers" zijn aantoonbaar zogenaamde 'pixel-visims', dus volledig c.g.i., die bestaan
slechts op een computerscherm. Ook hun 'backstopping' komt op niets uit.
Ingeborg werd gepresenteerd als de Center Manager van de Regus-vestiging in het WTC:
ze moet dus met haar neus bovenop al deze zaken gezeten hebben.

- Regus is in 1989 opgericht door Mark Dixon en Bob Gaudreau in Brussel.
Ingeborg was (samen met Julia Ridsdale-Saw) een van de eerste medewerksters die door Mark Dixon is aangenomen. (zie de biografie van Gerlof Leistra, "Gewone Levens".)
In 1993 werd ze de Sales Manager van dit eerste Regus Business Center.

- Bob Gaudreau heeft haar begin 1998 weer aangenomen, toen bij Regus New York.
Dat was toen nog op 245 Park Avenue, de WTC-vestiging kwam in maart 2001.

Dan zou het er op neer komen dat Regus besluit om mee te doen met de 9/11-simulatie, ze dus alle moeite en risico's gaan nemen om die 4 fake-slachtoffers te creeren,
maar dan toch nog besluiten Ingeborg bruutweg te laten vermoorden in het WTC??

Dat zou te absurd voor woorden zijn!
Dan zou je ook een heel andere reaktie van hun familie zien: haar zuster heeft namelijk in 2008 die overdreven duidelijk gephotoshopte foto op haar Legacy-site geplaatst.

Die "spinning" in de databases en het 'simmen' van haar foto's heeft slechts een ondersteunende rol: "to trouble the waters" zogezegd.

En dan nog dit:
Hoogstwaarschijnlijk was er niet eens een Regus-vestiging in het WTC.
Zie hiervoor de nieuwe uitstekende research op Letsroll, the Hollow Towers:
http://letsrollforums.com/wtc-pre-demolished-and-t21572.html

Er is gesimuleerd dat er op al die etages in het WTC bedrijven gevestigd zouden zijn,
maar die etages zelf hebben nooit bestaan!

Is ze overleden op 11 september 2001?
Dit komt overeen met de vraag: waar was ze op 9/11 tussen 8.30 en 9.03?

Mijn conclusie is: ze was niet in het WTC.
Het is allemaal gesimuleerd in de Nederlandse media, een polder psy-op dus...

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 13:41 schreef Bastard het volgende:
Ik heb wel eens maanden dat ik helemaal niet denk aan 9/11 eigenlijk he

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 12:45 schreef Culto het volgende:

- Bob Gaudreau heeft haar begin 1998 weer aangenomen, toen bij Regus New York.
Dat was toen nog op 245 Park Avenue, de WTC-vestiging kwam in maart 2001.

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En dan nog dit:
Hoogstwaarschijnlijk was er niet eens een Regus-vestiging in het WTC.
Zie hiervoor de nieuwe uitstekende research op Letsroll, the Hollow Towers:
http://letsrollforums.com/wtc-pre-demolished-and-t21572.html

Er is gesimuleerd dat er op al die etages in het WTC bedrijven gevestigd zouden zijn,
maar die etages zelf hebben nooit bestaan!

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 15:52 schreef Culto het volgende:

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Over die time-line van de Regus-vestiging in het WTC is ook al het nodige gezegd op de Hollow Towers-thread op letsroll.
Ik heb daar zelf deze post over gemaakt:
http://letsrollforums.com/showpost.php?p=192964&postcount=152

Voor de rest zijn er geen foto's o.i.d. bekend voor zover ik nu weet..
Echter, ik heb wel vrij veel contact gehad met iemand die claimt dat hij ten tijde van 9/11 office space huurde bij Regus WTC2, dat hij zodoende ook Ingeborg kende...
Dat is weer een ander verhaal natuurlijk.

Helaas ben ik off-line de komende dagen, voor iedereen natuurlijk De Beste Wensen
en ik zou zeggen: lees die thread van Letsroll maar eens door, is de moeite waard:
http://letsrollforums.com/wtc-pre-demolished-and-t21572.html

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 16:18 schreef DarthHouse het volgende:
"JokkeBrok"

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Ghostplanes.

Nog niet eens half bezet......
5 afzeggingen en toch op de slachtofferlijst staan......
Raytheon had 5 werknemers op 3 vluchten!
Waarvan Homer op vlucht 175 zat, die werkte in WTC 2....en een paar etage's lager naar binnenvliegt.

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Summary of Flight 77 passengers:

* Total passengers: 64
* Passengers involved in gov’t/defense related work: 21
* Senior staff/directors/managers: 18
* Military backgrounds: 10
* Navy background: 7
* Executives/chief officers/presidents: 5
* Men: 30
* Women: 24
* Kids: 5
* Non-hijacker passengers: 59
* Alleged Hijackers*: 5

*Allegedly armed with only knifes and box cutters.

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 16:47 schreef DarthHouse het volgende:

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Elke naam heeft 'n link
http://www.washingtonpost(...)victims/viclist.html

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 20:29 schreef DarthHouse het volgende:

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Jaja...nou nog iemand die alle 'vicsims' op een rijtje zet waar je niet meer omheen kunt.

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Vanaf dag 1 van 911.....heb ik eigenlijk altijd al een 'gevoel' gehad van... er kloppen dingen niet.
Zoals ik wel eens eerder hebt gezegd;
Het begon met WTC 1 & 2 en als ze daar waren gestopt....dan waren er wellicht véél minder
vragen geweest. Maar de 'False Flag' is uit de hand gelopen met het Pentagon en S'ville
en daar waren op dat moment veel meer vraagtekens te vinden.
Enige tijd later, kwam pas het WTC 7 verhaal om de hoek kijken.

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And i ll stick with the "Drone Story", for the moment. Uit dat verhaal heb ik de logische gedachtengang van diegene die dat verteld heeft gevolgd.
En zover ik het nu kan zien.....klopt zijn verhaal 'aardig'!

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Op vrijdag 24 december 2010 22:23 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Waar is Ticker? Is hij met de staart tussen de benen er vandoor gegaan?

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Op zaterdag 25 december 2010 05:54 schreef polderturk het volgende:

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Ik bedoelde eigenlijk Terecht.

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Op zondag 26 december 2010 00:03 schreef DarthHouse het volgende:
Ik zocht eigenlijk naar '911 vicsims', via Google afbeeldingen.
Pas op een van de laatste pagina's... kwam ik dit op een Frans-talige site tegen.

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Non parles voes frances..kes kies spas

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"...The fact that there is no hole in the exit face that would accommodate an object of this size proves that the object cannot be real."

"Here is where the perps showed their ability to improvise:

"Because of the most obvious FOX-aired “nose-out” phenomenon, they were forced to copy this blunder into all the other “amateur” footage which would surely have shown it even more clearly than the “Chopper 5” footage did.

"To accomplish this, they had to abandon the independent fuel tank explosion explanation for the separate fireballs and use what would have represented the starboard-side explosion as cover for the “nose-out.” Of course, this subsequently placed the port-side explosion out of position. This was only a minor anomaly compared to having to explain how an entire third of the still-intact plane emerged from the backside of WTC2 in that FOX-aired blooper.

"Unfortunately for them, they had already dug their own graves. Although this solution bought them some time (about 5 years so far), they had to know that the fact that there was no hole in “exit-face” from which the “nosecone” could have “emerged” was going to be their ultimate undoing. There was no way for them to run up there and create the unplanned hole they now needed to exist, but even if there was, it wasn’t like they could “unbroadcast” the already-aired footage of the fully-intact steel beams.

"At this point, they were forced to choose between hoping that nobody figured out this obvious “smoking gun” and providing no amateur footage from the north side at all. If not one person would have captured the “nose-out” on film, that would have rivaled the sheer lunacy of finding Satam Al Suqami’s unscathed passport in the street."

Luc Courchesne - WTC - Missile & Plane - Are they all fake? or is one of them real?

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Op dinsdag 28 december 2010 01:35 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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Dus ook geen
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wat er uit zijn gevlogen.

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Op dinsdag 28 december 2010 22:12 schreef THEFXR het volgende:

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ik adviseer je eerst even inlezen in de vorige topics, dit is echt een beginnersvraag die al 100x is beantwoord.

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Op woensdag 29 december 2010 18:27 schreef DarthHouse het volgende:

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Over dichtklappen van het staal gesproken

WTC 1 and some amazing physics ( vooruit nog eentje )

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Fema Versus Warren

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Misschien zitten er wel 'Patenten' op deze theorieën.....en vooral vraag 2 in de bovenste JPG

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Op woensdag 29 december 2010 19:25 schreef DarthHouse het volgende:

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Nu nog het iets vinden, wat die op een 'vliegtuig' ogende gaten heeft gecreërd

911 AMATEUR part2