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ipa84zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 02:50

Filmpje van CivDiv over hoe het front veranderd is ten opzichten van 2022 toen hij ook een tijdje mee heeft gevochten met de Oekraners. Toen zat hij bij een verkenningseenheid en nu bij een drone eenheid. Wat we al zagen zijn vooral drones heel belangrijk geworden in alle opzichten. Ook is volgens hem vooral in zijn gebied het Russische leger getraind dan in 2022. Ook is de grey zone (of niemandsland) minder groot dan in het begin van de oorlog.
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 03:36
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 22 juni 2024 22:29 schreef Discombobulate het volgende:

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Bosnisch, Kroatisch, Servisch kan ik ook prima onderscheiden. Een taal onderscheiden die je niet zelf spreekt is echt niet zo moeilijk.
Laat me raden, je bent een bosnier die hier zit sinds de yugo oorlog? Grappig :)

Dan is het nogal wiedes dat je die 3 talen kan onderscheiden. Die liggen ook zeer dicht bij elkaar.

Maar voor de rest: als jij met talen geconfronteerd wordt die op een hele andere tak van de talen boom zit, is het allemaal koeterwaals voor je.

Dus jij hoort het verschil niet tussen kikongo of lingala.

Maar wederom: als je pro-rus tankie bent, dan zijn die gasten die halve liters halen, natuurlijk oekrainers. :')
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 06:56
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)-self-propelled-gun/
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The Russian forces lost the Giatsint-S self-propelled gun
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A destroyed Russian 2S5 Giatsint-S self-propelled gun. June 2024. Photo credits: t.me/lost_warinua

The Russian invasion forces lost their 152-mm Giatsint-S self-propelled gun.

The Telegram channel War in Ukraine. Loss of equipment released the photos.

The gun was in a combat position on one of the sections of the front lines. It was equipped with anti-drone screens.

According to the photos distributed by the invaders themselves, the most likely cause of the destruction of the Giatsint-S self-propelled gun was the explosion of a shell in the gun barrel.
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Torn barrel of the Russian Giatsint-S self-propelled gun. June 2024. Photo credits: t.me/lost_warinua

This indicates that Russian artillerymen were firing at Ukrainian positions, but lost their self-propelled gun due to an abnormal fuse or other malfunction.
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A destroyed Russian 2S5 Giatsint-S self-propelled gun. June 2024. Photo credits: t.me/lost_warinua

It is not known whether there were any casualties or injuries among the enemy’s Giatsint-S crew, but the self-propelled gun is likely beyond repair due to significant damage to the chassis from the explosion and subsequent burning.

Giatsint-S self-propelled gun
The Soviet-era 152-mm Giatsint-S self-propelled gun is designed to conduct counter-battery warfare, destroy firing points and field fortification, self-propelled guns and enemy tanks.

The maximum firing range is 27,000 meters when using conventional ammunition (some sources indicate different data — 28,400 meters).

Losses of the Russian invaders
The Ukrainian troops have repeatedly destroyed such Russian self-propelled guns using various weapons.
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HIMARS of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hit the Russian Giatsint-S self-propelled gun. April, 2024. Footage from the video of the SOF

The operators of the 73rd Maritime Special Operations Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine aimed the HIMARS system at the Russian Giatsint-S self-propelled gun. The Russian gun was spotted during reconnaissance operations in the southern sector.
The coordinates of the enemy target were promptly transferred to a missile and artillery unit of the Defense Forces.

The Russian self-propelled gun was hit by a GMLRS missile from the US M142 HIMARS rocket system. The missile exploded over the Giatsint-S and hit it with a large number of metal balls contained in the warhead.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 06:59
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/22/7462080/
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Chief of FSB unit gathering intelligence on Ukraine replaced
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Sergei Beseda, the head of the 5th Service of Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), a unit responsible for gathering intelligence on Ukraine on the eve of the full-scale invasion in February 2022, has been replaced.

Source: Vazhnye Istorii (Important Stories), a Russian news outlet, citing its own sources

Details: The media outlet reported that Alexei Komkov, formerly the deputy head of Russia's counterintelligence service, has taken over Beseda’s position as chief of the FSB's 5th Service.

The sources said Beseda became an adviser to FSB Director Aleksandr Bortnikov.

Vazhnye Istorii cites two sources – a former Russian intelligence officer and an acquaintance of Beseda.
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The FSB's 5th Service deals with intelligence gathering inside Russia and in the countries of the former Soviet Union. Russian leader Vladimir Putin relied heavily on information provided by this particular FSB unit when deciding to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the media outlet noted.

Shortly after the invasion began, it became evident that much of the intelligence provided by the 5th Service was inaccurate. The article says the Russian authorities were confident that Russian forces would not face serious resistance on their way.

Early on in the full-scale Russian invasion, a number of media outlets even reported that Beseda and his colleagues had been detained for providing inaccurate intelligence about Ukraine. However, these reports were not confirmed by sources from Vazhnye Istorii.

Now, the formal reason for Beseda's resignation is that he has reached his 70th birthday, the maximum term of service.

"However, this personnel decision is explained not only by formal reasons: there is a fierce struggle within the FSB between various power groups for several high-ranking positions to be vacated this year, including Bortnikov's own," the article says.

The FSB director will turn 73 this year (he is not subject to age restrictions due to his high rank as an army general) and has long been "asking for retirement for health reasons," Vazhnye Istorii's sources say. One of the candidates for his place is Sergei Korolev, First Deputy Director of the FSB, who is associated with the leaders of the Russian underworld, including Russia's "No. 1 assassin" Aslan Gagiyev.

Alexei Komkov, appointed head of the 5th Service, is considered to be Korolev's protg.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 07:08
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/22/7462072/
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Explosions near Russia's Belgorod: media reports say air defence system was hit – video
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A missile has struck a Pantsir-S air defence system launcher near the village of Dubovoe (Russia's Belgorod Oblast).

Source: Telegram-based news outlet Astra; Belgorod Oblast Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov; Russian socio-political newspaper Novaya Gazeta Europe

Details: Local media outlets are posting photos of a damaged Pantsir-S near Dubovoe – the system has been struck by a cluster munition, but the crew managed to survive.

Black smoke was rising over the scene.

A woman said in one of the videos: "It was our air defence. What now? They won't be able to shoot down missiles now".

In addition, Russian pro-war Telegram channel lpr 1 noted: "Dubovoe. The boys are alive".

Meanwhile, Gladkov reported a grass fire in Dubovoe, but one of the media outlets clarified that the fire was at the Pantsir's location.

Novaya Gazeta noted that the smoke started near the City Mall shopping centre, located on the outskirts of Belgorod but de jure part of Dubovoe.

The newspaper said some Telegram channels later removed photos and videos of the smoke in Belgorod Oblast.
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 07:11
https://kyivindependent.c(...)ility-military-says/
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Ukrainian army says some Russian troops withdrawing from Vovchansk area
Some of the Russian forces are withdrawing from the area near Vovchansk in Kharkiv Oblast for replenishment due to a loss of combat capability, the spokesperson for the Khortytsia group of forces, Nazar Voloshyn, said on June 22 on national television.

Russia launched a new offensive on May 10 in northern Kharkiv Oblast, and Vovchansk became the scene of some of the heaviest fighting.

Moscow's forces had advanced as far as 10 kilometers (6 miles) in the region but had been halted by the first line of defense.

Russia was "bogged down" in the embattled town of Vovchansk but was constantly replenishing its forces with units from other directions, Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine's Armed Forces Oleksandr Syrskyi said on June 12.

The withdrawal of Russian units was also seen near the villages of Lyptsi and Tykhe, where the Russian armed forces suffered losses, Voloshyn said.

Voloshin said that the Russian army had lost 60 of its troops, including both killed or wounded, in that direction of the front line.

"This indicates that the enemy has suspended its active hostilities in that area, as they were not conducted over the past day and in the morning," Voloshyn said.

The Russian military yet continues to use guided aerial bombs and missiles against the settlements in the oblast, the spokesperson added.

On June 21, a Russian drone hit an Ukrposhta postal vehicle in the community of Vovchansk in Ukraine's Kharkiv Oblast, killing a courier and injuring a driver, Governor Oleh Syniehubov reported

The injured individual reportedly walked to the nearby village of Buhaiivka, where he was taken to the hospital by Ukrainian military personnel in the area.

Syniehubov said access is restricted to the site of the attack due to constant shelling.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 07:24
https://en.defence-ua.com(...)k_ukraine-10929.html
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russia Starts Using New Iranian Drones to Attack Ukraine
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Iranian Arash kamikaze drones / Photo credit: aawsat.com

The Defense Forces of Ukraine allegedly shot down a new product that russians received from Iran
Ukrainian Air Defense Forces shot down not a missile, but most likely a new Iranian Arash-1 or Arash-2 suiside drone on June 20, near Ochakiv, Mykolaiv Oblast. This was reported by the author of the Ukrainian monitoring Telegram channel Vanek Nikolaev.

"An incident happened near Ochakiv the day before yesterday, and everyone rushed to write that a missile was flying. After an interim examination, based on the wreckage we found and other data about this 'missile', we concluded that it was not a missile," he wrote.

There is an assumption that it was another Iranian product called Arash-1 or Arash-2 kamikaze drone. This drone is known to fly faster than Shahed drone. The range of this drone can be up to 1600-2000 km, flying at a speed of 300-500 km/h.
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Iranian Arash kamikaze drones / Open source illustrative photo

According to the Telegram channel, an unknown flying object maneuvered near Ochakov and was shot down by Ukrainian Navy. It did not cause any damage and there were no victims or major destruction.

The channel's author reported that it is not known for certain what Ukrainian military shot down but the experts will announce it later and will probably publish the information somewhere on their resources.

"But if it is another transfer from Iran, it is the bad news," he summarized.

Earlier Defense Express reported that russia had mentioned its rare Orion UAV in the testing phase of the modernized version.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 07:36
https://www.abc.net.au/ne(...)d-backfire/104007820
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Vladimir Putin went to North Korea looking for friends, but he may have helped arm his enemy
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Kim Jong Un and Vladimir Putin have entered a new military partnership.(Reuters: Korean Central News Agency)

When Russian President Vladimir Putin visited North Korea to announce a new military partnership a few days ago, he was given the trademark military spectacle that Pyongyang has perfected.

Soldiers marching in unison, thousands of cheering children and highly choreographed groups of dancers and singers.

No expense was spared to give the illusion of grandeur.

Kim Jong Un declared his "full support and solidarity" for Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, while Putin thanked Kim for his "unwavering support".

Then, to top it off, the two signed a surprise military pact declaring each side would assist the other in the face of aggression.

At first glance, the trip could be viewed as a success.
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But it's quite possible the new bromance between the Russian president and Kim Jong Un will only further weaken Russia's position in the international arena.

It certainly signals just how far Moscow has fallen since its botched invasion of Ukraine.

Cut off from the most advanced economies, it's now turning to one of the poorest and most isolated for help.

What's worse is the deal may backfire and lead to its enemy, Ukraine, receiving military support from one of the most advanced arms suppliers in the world.

North Korean shells found in Ukraine
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The official North Korean news agency reported the leaders agreed that if either of their countries were invaded and pushed into a state of war, the other must deploy "all means at its disposal without delay".(Reuters: Sputnik/Vladimir Smirnov)

It was only a few years ago that Russia was supporting sanctions designed to punish North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

It saw a nuclear-armed Pyongyang as a destabilising figure.

But with sanctions constricting the Russian economy and its war machine, Moscow has been forced to tap into North Korea's abundant supplies of Soviet-era artillery shells.

Both Pyongyang and Russia deny these claims, but satellite imagery and unmistakably North Korean missiles being discovered in Ukraine suggest otherwise.

There is also a concern North Korea could even provide ballistic missiles for Russia, as well as cheap labour and soldiers.

"North Korea's regime shows little regard for human life, even the lives of its own people," North Korea expert Sung-Yoon Lee from the Wilson Centre told the BBC.

"I would not be surprised if Putin and Kim work out a deal for North Korea to send into Russia — not only labourers and technicians — but perhaps even combat troops in the months to come."

North Korea talks tough and often touts its latest military test as a roaring success, but much of this is viewed as bluster, rather than bona fide.

Cut off from the world, North Korea's military is far less advanced than its southern neighbour. Just last month, one of its satellite tests failed spectacularly.

So it's no doubt hoping to access some of Russia's advanced military technology as part of this new partnership.

But, analysts are highly doubtful Russia would ever share its most prized military secrets.

Think of how many decades Australia and its ally the United States have been building trust and cooperation for a deal like AUKUS to be possible.

The new alliance between Russia and North Korea is only just getting started and trust and transparency are in short supply in autocracies.

South Korea warns of red line
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Vladimir Putin's decision to sign a military partnership with North Korea may change South Korea's stance on sending arms to Ukraine.(Reuters: Sputnik/Gavriil Grigorov)

The new "comprehensive partnership agreement" signed between Moscow and North Korea is being touted as an alliance between the two.

At first, it was unclear what the deal entailed. There was no detail about what "aggression" would trigger the pact, or what "support" the pact would prompt.

North Korea's official Korean News Agency says the deal means if either country gets invaded and is pushed into a state of war, the other must deploy "all means at its disposal without delay", including "military and other assistance".

South Korea has responded furiously.

It had warned Russia to not cross any "red lines" before the visit.

It appears the red line may have now been crossed.

South Korea's National Security Adviser Chang Ho-jin announced the country would review its stance on not providing military support for Ukraine.

He also announced another 243 Russian items would be subject to sanctions, bringing the total to 1,402.

South Korea could change its stance on supplying Ukraine
South Korea is an emerging global powerhouse for defence exports. In July 2022, the country signed a landmark defence deal with Poland worth $12.4 billion — its largest yet.

Already the ninth-largest arms exporter, Seoul wants to own the world number four spot by 2027.

But so far, South Korea has not provided lethal aid — or weapons — directly to Ukraine due to its Foreign Trade Act, something that only allows it to provide non-lethal support.

South Korean artillery shells have ended up in Ukraine, but only via sales to third-party US.

But Seoul is now talking about a possible change of stance on sending arms to Ukraine — and that is significant.

The Center for Strategic and International Studies recently reported South Korea's stockpiles of howitzer rounds could give Ukraine an important boost.

"Specific measures will be revealed later, and it will be interesting to see how Russia responds, rather than revealing our plans in advance," a presidential official told reporters.
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South Korea warned Vladimir Putin not to cross any "red lines" during his visit to North Korea.(AP: Korean Central News Agency/Korea News Service)

Vladimir Putin warned South Korea that providing weapons to Ukraine would be a "big mistake".

But it's a threat that may do little to change South Korea's thinking given Putin may have already crossed a red line.

Moscow has already shown it's now firmly on the side of North Korea, recently vetoing a United Nations resolution to renew the UN Panel of Experts that monitors sanctions on North Korea.

On his recent trip to North Korea and Vietnam, Vladimir Putin argued he was building an important counterweight to the US hegemony in the region.

But Russia's embrace of North Korea has only pushed the US and its regional allies closer together.

South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol has spent a lot of political capital casting aside historical grievances with former coloniser Japan to forge ahead and build new military ties with Tokyo.

The resolve to make the new trilateral partnership a success will now only be hardened and efforts to deepen military partnerships with others in the region, including Australia, will be made.

South Korea has flagged an interest in cooperating with the defence technology pact AUKUS, something Australia has warmly welcomed.

North Korea's ultimate goal is survival.
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Vladimir Putin was given a warm welcome in Pyongyang.(Sputnik/Gavriil Grigorov via Reuters)

It knows it has vastly inferior firepower compared to its rivals. Talk of winning grand wars is little more than empty rhetoric, and perhaps the only distraction it can muster for its impoverished and starving population.

So, any extra friends it can get is likely a good thing.

For Russia, it is clinging to the idea that it is still a global powerhouse. But, as the saying goes: "You are the company you keep."
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 07:43
https://kyivindependent.c(...)urprises-for-pilots/
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Ukraine's partisans claim infiltration of Russian air base, leave 'surprises' for pilots
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One of the Russian aircraft in pictures released by ATESH (ATESH/Telegram)

The Ukrainian partisan group ATESH has claimed one of its agents successfully infiltrated a Russian air base and hinted at carrying out sabotage operations.

In a post on Telegram on June 22, the group said it had scouted the Baltimore airfield in Voronezh, around 220 kilometers north-east from the border with Kharkiv Oblast and home to Russia's 47th Guards Bomber Aviation Regiment.

Pictures and videos accompanying the post show several aircraft including a helicopter and what ATESH say are SU-34 fighter-bombers, a plane Russia frequently employs to launch missiles at Ukrainian cities.

"In some of them, Russians now have surprises waiting for them," the post reads.
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ATESH also claimed to have passed on information about the base to Ukrainian authorities, adding: "Soon, we will see the result of our work."

The Kyiv Independent could not verify the photos or the claims made by ATESH.

The SU-34 is reported to have been the aircraft used in Russia's recent first use of the three ton FAB-3000 high-explosive aerial bomb in Kherson Oblast earlier this month.

A video claims to show a FAB-3000 bomb striking the end of a building used by the Ukrainian army as a temporary deployment point (TDP).

The post accompanying the video explains that the bomb did not succeed in making a direct hit on the target but still caused massive damage.

Ukraine could not confirm that Russia used the bomb, Air Force spokesperson Illia Yevlash said in a comment for the Kyiv Independent.

The ATESH movement is highly-active in both occupied areas of Ukraine and inside Russia itself.

On June 12, the group said a Russian satellite communication station was destroyed in a sabotage attack in Moscow Oblast.

In a video posted by Atesh partisans on Telegram, an Atesh agent is seen pouring a flammable liquid on an R-441 Liven communications satellite. The communications station is seen subsequently catching fire.

The incident allegedly occurred in the Klin district of Moscow Oblast - approximately 85 kilometers (over 50 miles) northwest of the Russian capital.
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 07:51
https://www.euronews.com/(...)ate-visit-to-vietnam
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Putin reconsiders nuclear weapons doctrine after state visit to Vietnam
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Putin's state visit comes as Moscow seeks to bolster ties in Asia to offset its growing international isolation over its military actions in Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he’s considering changing Russia’s nuclear weapon doctrine due to the development of ultra-low-power explosive nuclear devices by his country’s adversaries.

The remarks were made during a press conference in Vietnam's capital Hanoi, where he was on a state visit.
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During the visit, Putin signed at least a dozen deals with his Vietnamese counterpart, including an offer to supply fossil fuels to Vietnam.

Putin and President To Lam agreed to further cooperate in education, science and technology, oil and gas exploration and clean energy. The two countries also agreed to work on a roadmap for a nuclear science and technology centre in Vietnam.

In Hanoi, Putin also met Vietnam’s most powerful politician, Communist Party General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong, and Prime Minister Pham Minh Chinh, according to the official Vietnam News Agency.

The Russian President drove to Vietnam’s Presidential Palace on Thursday afternoon, where he was greeted by school children waving Russian and Vietnamese flags.
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Vietnamese President To Lam and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin review the guard of honour at the Presidential Palace in Hanoi.

Putin strengthens ties with North Korea
Putin arrived in Hanoi on Thursday morning from North Korea after signing the strategic pact, which comes as both countries face escalating standoffs with the West and could mark their strongest connection since the end of the Cold War.

The strategic pact pledges mutual aid if either country faces “aggression.”

However, the Russian President said on Thursday he doesn't expect North Korea's volunteers to participate in the special military operation in Ukraine.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un smile as they walk after the talks in Pyongyang.

Alarm bells for the West
Putin's trip resulted in a sharp rebuke from the US Embassy in Vietnam, which said “no country should give Putin a platform to promote his war of aggression and otherwise allow him to normalise his atrocities.”

If Putin is allowed to travel freely it “could normalise Russia’s blatant violations of international law,” it said in a statement.

The US and its allies have expressed growing concerns over a possible arms arrangement in which North Korea provides Russia with badly needed munitions for use in Ukraine in exchange for Russian economic assistance and technology transfers that could enhance the threat posed by Kim’s nuclear weapons and missile programs.

Both countries deny accusations of weapons transfers, which would violate multiple UN Security Council sanctions that Russia previously endorsed.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 08:02
https://www.telegraph.co.(...)ukraines-front-line/
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Ukraine’s prisoners flock to the front line for revenge, not amnesty
As its forces battle endless offensives and low morale, Kyiv looks to its inmates to bolster its hard-pressed army
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Nearly 5,000 prisoners are said to have volunteered as part of the scheme

Oleksander says he has volunteered to swap his prison cell for a trench for two reasons.

The softly-spoken 43 year old wants revenge against the Russians who have killed several of his family, but after nearly half his life behind bars, he also wants to change his direction.

His decision has seen him go from serving a prison sentence for robbery in Dnipro, to learning weapons drills in a woodland training camp in central Ukraine.

Within weeks, he and his new comrades will be trained up and on their way to join thousands of convict volunteers on the front line.
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Oleksander signed up under the new initiative. He will serve the country until the war ends

Oleksander and other prisoners have joined up under a new Ukrainian law allowing inmates to enlist in the hard-pressed army.

“There’s no pressure at all to join up,” he said, “I just decided to change my life completely.

“I also have a big motivation: lots of my family died in Mariupol,” he said referring to the coastal city devastated during the early weeks of the Russian invasion.

“I like my choice, because now instead of lying on a prison bed, I can get some new skills and change my life.”

Under the government’s new offer to inmates, prisoners signing up have their remaining sentences cleared and will be given parole if they agree to serve in the army without leave until the end of the war.

Thousands have already stepped forward according to the justice ministry, and recruits are already going through training.

The prisoner scheme is one of several new initiatives taken by the government as it tries to overcome troop shortages more than two years into Russia’s invasion.

Ukraine’s predatory neighbour has a population more than four times the size and Ukraine’s troops are outnumbered and tired.
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Civilian Ukrainian prisoners are given basic training in a woodland camp

Volodymyr Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, said last month that his army needed more men to boost the forces’ morale.

He said: “We need to staff the reserves... A large number of [brigades] are empty.”

Many Ukrainian soldiers have been fighting for over two years without the possibility of being discharged.

“We need to do this so that the guys have a normal rotation. Then their morale will be improved,” Mr Zelensky said.

Kyiv has recently tightened draft laws to try to mobilise several hundred thousand more soldiers, but that process may take months.

In the meantime, brigades are keen to take convicts.

Denys Maliuska, justice minister, said last month: “There is competition between military commanders to hire [prisoners] since there is a lack of manpower, so they really want to have access to these people.”

In total across the country, nearly 5,000 prisoners are said to have volunteered as part of the scheme. The minister has previously said he expects between 10,000 and 20,000 inmates to sign up in total.
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Volunteers told The Telegraph they were driven by different things such as patriotism, revenge, or a chance to turn over a new leaf and end a cycle of crime and punishment.

Oleksander made his choice despite his sentence finishing in three months.

“After three months, I would be free, but I would have to work and hide from the draft officers,” he said.

He admits some fellow inmates thought he was “crazy” for taking the deal.

Some 300 former prisoners will pass through this camp to be trained up for the 59th brigade, which has seen heavy fighting in Kherson, Avdiivka and Krasnohorivka.
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Prisoner enlistment is completely voluntary. Inmates have said there are many reasons they have taken up the call, including revenge and redemption

Dima, another recruit, says his main motivation is to protect his country.

The 37 year old was serving five years in an open prison for theft and burglary when he took the deal. He only had seven months left to serve and he admits his family think he is an “idiot”.

He says: “I have made many mistakes in my life, I love my country and I have decided to work on my mistakes.

“Also I don’t want the Russians to come here.

“My main goal is not to change my life, my main goal is to protect my country, but of course my life will change. I am looking forward to getting new positive emotions.”

Konstantin, now aged 32, was only 20 when he was first given a prison sentence. His most recent conviction was for stealing a car.

He said: “When I was young, I romanticised crime. Now I am more thinking that if I finish this sentence, I will be 37. If I am 37 and have served so long in prison, what can I do?”

He hopes the army will give him a chance to change his life, as well as to defend his home region of Zaporizhzhia.

He said: “When I made the decision, some of my friends thought I was playing with death. “I let my family know and they were not happy with it. They were worried.

“It was a free choice. We were put under no pressure.”

Ukrainian officials are keen to point out the differences from Russia’s recruitment of convicts to serve in the Wagner mercenary group.

Russian prisoners reported being forced to sign contracts, then being poorly trained and equipped before being thrown into suicidal assaults.

Each of the Ukrainian recruits interviewed by The Telegraph stressed they had volunteered freely, without any pressure.

Nazar, the chief reconnaissance officer for the 59th brigade, who has now switched to training duties, said: “We are not afraid of condemnation from society because compared to Russia, where they force prisoners to fight, these men have come voluntarily.”

Prisoners convicted of certain offences are barred from serving, including the murder of two or more people, manslaughter through drink-driving, sexual crimes, treason and corruption.

Most who sign up have been convicted of thefts, robberies and drug offences. Their applications must be approved by a court.

The prisoners are vetted and assessed in training units and must pass medical checks. After that, they undergo 60 days of training before they can be sent to the front line.

Instructors say the new recruits have been disciplined and they respect the convicts for their decision.

Nazar predicts their new units will also have no problems with them.

He said: “The brigade guys don’t care that much if [the new recruits] were in prison or not. They are normal guys and any one can get into trouble and go to prison. Most of them were in prison for small crimes.”
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US closes Russian visa centres in Washington, New York
Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov says that the US administration is closing two branches of the Russian visa center and is depriving Russian diplomats of the opportunity to avoid paying taxes TASS reports.

He complained that the US administration had sent a notice of closure to the visa centres in Washington and New York, calling it a "petty, nasty case".

Despite this, Antonov said Russia will continue to provide consular services to its citizens in the US.

"They took away our tax exemption cards. These cards provide privileges for diplomats in any country, allowing them to live and not pay taxes to the local treasury," he added.

According to him, the US has not explained its actions in any way.

"This is a serious additional burden for us, given the fact that our consulates general in Houston and New York are bleeding to death. Nevertheless, I assure everyone that we will not give up and will continue our work," Antonov stressed.

Instead, Russia is considering possible retaliatory measures in response to the actions of the US authorities.

In his opinion, "the Americans are trying to break" Russia, change its foreign policy and "force diplomats to hide behind the walls of the embassy, not to communicate, not to work".

• On April 30, US State Department Deputy Spokesperson Vedant Patel said that his country's policy on sanctions against Russia over its invasion of Ukraine had not changed.
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Soldiers from the State Border Guard Service of Ukraine destroyed an electronic warfare system of Russian invaders in the Zaporizhzhia sector.
According to Ukrinform, this was reported by the State Border Guard Service.

"The combat destruction work was carried out at night, after the object where the enemy was hiding the electronic warfare system had been reconnoitered," the report says.

According to the border guards, the EW system was destroyed “with only two accurate releases”.

As Ukrinform reported, the Russian army’s total combat losses in Ukraine since February 24, 2022 amount to nearly 533,090 troops.
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 08:55
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Ukrainian soldier takes cover right before an artillery shell hits exactly where he was just sitting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)_a_russian_position/
Ukrainian Paladin destroying a Russian position (date / position unknown)

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)by_russian_soldiers/
JDAM hits a building occupied by Russian soldiers (Reportedly in Dniprorudne)

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)th_mountain_assault/
Meet Sergei, soldier of the 10th Mountain Assault Brigade! We are currently supporting his brigade. In the interview, Sergei explains how he started fighting in 2015, how many times he was wounded, and what motivates him to fight on!

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)ing_ukrainian_drone/
Russian soldiers film a burning Ukrainian drone that was reportedly shot down, after a few seconds it explodes

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)uav_battalion_video/
Magyar's 414th Marine Strike UAV Battalion video 22.06.2024

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)_bmp_into_apcs_this/
"Russians are modifying their BMP into APCs. This isn't the first BMP we've seen like this, and we've seen it happen more frequently lately. And I wonder if we will start seeing it commonly, the same way we saw Russia slowly convert their tanks into APCs."-Andrew Perpetua

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)_t80bvm_mod_2022_is/
"Destroyed Russian tank T-80BVM mod. 2022 is somewhere at the front from a closed source "

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)0bvm_mod_2022_in_np/
"Destroyed Russian tank T-80BVM mod. 2022 in n.p. Krasnogorovka, Maryinsky district, Donetsk region. ( 4800'14.9"N 3732'27.4"E )"

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)koe_direction_video/
"Donetsk region, Novomikhailovskoe direction. Video from a Russian soldier. Destroyed self-propelled gun 2S3 "Akatsiya". The crew survived."-russianocontext
NeeOfTochJAzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 08:57
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Idisromzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 11:05
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0s.gif Op zaterdag 22 juni 2024 20:07 schreef BlaZ het volgende:
Misschien is er recentelijkere data maar de meerderheid van de Oekraners wil de oorlog gewoon voortzetten en voor de winst gaan:

https://news.gallup.com/p(...)despite-fatigue.aspx
Ik ben bij dit soort enqutes vooral benieuwd naar een specificatie per oblast.
Aetherzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 11:20
The-BFGzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 13:01
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Het is wachten op Baudet die Noord Korea gaat promoten :X
StateOfMindzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 13:03
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Het is wachten op Baudet die Noord Korea gaat promoten :X
Koken met Kim *O*

Geroosterde kevers op een bedje van boomschors :9~
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 13:18
Wat sympathiek van putin.

Misschien willen er ook wat een militair contract tekenen.

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AchJazondag 23 juni 2024 @ 13:29
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Willen ze nou beweren dat dit de laatst overgebleven Giatsint-S was?
BEFEMzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 14:10
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Willen ze nou beweren dat dit de laatst overgebleven Giatsint-S was?
Lijkt me eerder een slechte vertaling.
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 14:47
Het is dom gelul ronde 8000.

Je land verdedigen is geen vrijblijvende aangelegenheid, klaar.
StateOfMindzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 14:56
Elke keer weer hetzelfde riedeltje van dezelfde users.

En telkens wil het maar niet tot die paar functionerende hersencelletjes doordringen dat omdat hun land in een oorlog is terecht gekomen door een binnengevallen buurland, er daarom een dienstplicht is.
En kom je niet opdagen/vlucht je weg, dan wordt je gezocht en opgepakt.

Dat zal in werkelijk lk land zo gaan in zo'n situatie.
En ook in Nederland.
spicymchaggiszondag 23 juni 2024 @ 15:02
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Het is dom gelul ronde 8000.

Je land verdedigen is geen vrijblijvende aangelegenheid, klaar.
Klopt, maar je mag van de Oekraners verwachten dat ze zorgzamer omgaan met de mannen waar ze dat offer van vragen. En van ons - als in "het westen" - mag je verwachten dat we hen van wapens voorzien waarmee ze Russen kunnen ombrengen, terwijl er zo min mogelijk risico met Oekranse levens genomen hoef te worden.
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Klopt, maar je mag van de Oekraners verwachten dat ze zorgzamer omgaan met de mannen waar ze dat offer van vragen.
Het is geen gegeven dat ze dat niet doen. Daarbij geld: als het niet kan zoals het moet, dan moet het maar zoals het kan.

Achterover leunen omdat dit, dat, zus, zo, niet aan onze standaarden voldoet is geen optie voor oekraine.
NeeOfTochJAzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 15:58
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En daarom is het van essentieel belang dat Oekrane van wapens voorzien wordt waarmee ze Russen massaal en van een afstand om het leven kunnen brengen. Niet-Russische levens zijn te kostbaar om te offeren in een strijd tegen het Russische wegwerpvolk.
Levens opofferen is precies wat er gebeurd.
polderturkzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 16:32
Is dit een oorlogsmisdaad?

Hij geeft zich over maar wordt toch opgeblazen.

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polderturkzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 16:37
Drone wars.

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Digi2zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 16:46
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Nou nou nou dit gaat wel weer heel ver.
Veel mensen hebben ondertussen de overtuiging dat de wereld overbevolkt is. Er zal weinig bezwaar zijn tegen vrijwilligers die zich aanmelden om te sterven.
The-BFGzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 16:53
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Levens opofferen is precies wat er gebeurd.
Dat is nu eenmaal een offer wat gegeven moet worden, om het land te verdedigen tegen de inval van een kwaadaardig regime.

En soms is het nodig om dat offer voor een ander land te geven als de nood hoog en onze manier van leven onder druk komt te staan. Gelukkig hebben we daar wel beroepsmilitairen voor.
Perrinzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 16:55
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Is dit een oorlogsmisdaad?

Hij geeft zich over maar wordt toch opgeblazen.

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Hoe wil je je overgeven aan een drone? Een drone kan je niet gevangen nemen. In de meeste gevallen is het niet heel zinvol om je proberen over te geven aan vliegende legereenheden.

Er is in veel gevallen niet echt een buut vrij in dit spelletje.
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 16:58
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Is dit een oorlogsmisdaad?

Hij geeft zich over maar wordt toch opgeblazen.

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Dit vroeg Wierd Duk zich ook al af.

En nee. Dit is geen oorlogsmisdaad. Dit is een soldaat van de bezetter. En hij geeft zich overduidelijk niet over.

Dit is wel een oorlogsmisdaad. Raketten op burgers schieten. En dit soort oorlogsmisdaden plegen de Russen dagelijks.
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NeeOfTochJAzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:01
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Dat is nu eenmaal een offer wat gegeven moet worden, om het land te verdedigen tegen de inval van een kwaadaardig regime.

En soms is het nodig om dat offer voor een ander land te geven als de nood hoog en onze manier van leven onder druk komt te staan. Gelukkig hebben we daar wel beroepsmilitairen voor.
Zegt ie vanachter zijn computer.
NeeOfTochJAzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:02
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Er kunnen niet genoeg Russische levens opgeofferd worden. Hoe meer Russen om het leven gebracht worden des te beter. ^O^
Dat filmpje en artikel gaat over Oekraners die opgeofferd worden.
Zwoerdzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:04
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Zegt ie vanachter zijn computer.
Ik zeg het ook vanachter mijn computer. Ik ben blij dat mijn land niet aangevallen wordt en ik niet hoef te vechten. Het is heel erg voor de Oekraners dat zij dit wel moeten. Maar dit is de zoveelste keer dat jij weer zit je janken op hoe stom Oekrane is, ipv je te richten op die vuile klootzakken uit Rusland die al deze ellende veroorzaken.
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0s.gif Op zondag 23 juni 2024 17:01 schreef NeeOfTochJA het volgende:

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Zegt ie vanachter zijn computer.
Je weet dat in je geliefde Rusland kritiek op de oorlog speciale militaire operatie strafbaar is en 10 jaar goelag kan opleveren?
The-BFGzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:07
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0s.gif Op zondag 23 juni 2024 17:01 schreef NeeOfTochJA het volgende:

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Zegt ie vanachter zijn computer.
Alleen maar omdat ik fucking geluk heb in dit land geboren te zijn ja. Bonus geluk dat het ook nog is deze periode van de historie is.

Mocht Nederland aangevallen worden dan zou ik ook niet te springen staan en doodsbang zijn.. Maar als ik opgeroepen wordt dan is dat maar zo. Al zou ik wss als staf meer kunnen betekenen als frontsoldaat..
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:12
Ondertussen op De Krim krijgen Russische vakantiegangers eigen raketten op hun bakkes :')

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Ondertussen op De Krim krijgen Russische vakantiegangers eigen raketten op hun bakkes :')

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Op vakantie gaan in oorlogsgebied :')
The-BFGzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:17
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Op vakantie gaan in oorlogsgebied :')
Er is geen Oorlog daar.. is een speciale militaire operatie
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:18
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Op vakantie gaan in oorlogsgebied :')
Maar er is toch geen oorlog? :o
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Perrinzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:23
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Nog even en er is weinig meer over van het Russische leger.
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Nog even en er is weinig meer over van het Russische leger.
De japanners deden banzai aanvallen, daar heb je niet veel materieel en wapens voor nodig. Destijds waren het alleen mannen die dat deden, gelukkig zijn de russen meer gemancipeerd, die kunnen nog wel ff door.

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Discombobulatezondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:40
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Nog even en er is weinig meer over van het Russische leger.
Lijkt me eerder andersom.
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Lijkt me eerder andersom.
Beide landen kunnen nog jaren door.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 17:50
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Is dit een oorlogsmisdaad?

Hij geeft zich over maar wordt toch opgeblazen.

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Hij geeft zich niet over. Hij bid gewoon voor zijn leven.

En de vraag is nog steeds in hoeverre je je nu kunt overgegeven tegen een drone. Want dit kan kilometers van het front zijn, zonder dat er Oekraense soldaten in de buurt waren. Grote kans namelijk dat wanneer hij niet uitgeschakeld was hij de volgende dag weer gewoon een wapen in de hand heeft.
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Als al die mannen die gevlucht zijn, of zich nu verstoppen om maar niet het leger in te moeten, zich gewoon braaf gemeld hadden, dan had de oorlog er nu al heel anders uit kunnen zien.

Zij hebben bijgedragen aan het voortduren van de oorlog en elke Oekraense soldaat die door een te kort aan soldaten gedood zijn.

Al horen ze natuurlijk wel gewoon goed uitgerust en getraind te worden. Wat volgens mij standaard zo'n 3 maanden is daar.

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Nog even en er is weinig meer over van het Russische leger.
En dat is ook precies de bedoeling.

Echt nevernooitmeer de illusie kunnen krijgen welk land dan ook maar te willen aanvallen.
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Hij geeft zich niet over. Hij bid gewoon voor zijn leven.

En de vraag is nog steeds in hoeverre je je nu kunt overgegeven tegen een drone. Want dit kan kilometers van het front zijn, zonder dat er Oekraense soldaten in de buurt waren. Grote kans namelijk dat wanneer hij niet uitgeschakeld was hij de volgende dag weer gewoon een wapen in de hand heeft.
Die minidrone heeft een bereik van 3 km max.
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Die minidrone heeft een bereik van 3 km max.
1km, 3km, 10km is allemaal relatief ver achter het front. Dus in veel gevallen is een daadwerkelijke overgave aan Oekraense soldaten via een drone gewoon onmogelijk. En er zijn geen regels wanneer het aankomt op overgave aan een drone. Al zal dat in de toekomst mogelijk wel anders worden natuurlijk.

Ook zijn die FPV drones niet gemaakt om weer terug te vliegen, die zijn gemaakt om een doel te vinden en die aan te vallen.

Maar zoals ik al zei hij gaf zich niet over, hij was gewoon aan het bidden en smeken om niet geraakt te worden.
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sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:16
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Dit vroeg Wierd Duk zich ook al af.

En nee. Dit is geen oorlogsmisdaad. Dit is een soldaat van de bezetter. En hij geeft zich overduidelijk niet over.

Dit is wel een oorlogsmisdaad. Raketten op burgers schieten. En dit soort oorlogsmisdaden plegen de Russen dagelijks.
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beide gevallen weten we niet genoeg om te concluderen of het wel of niet om een oorlogsmisdaad gaat
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beide gevallen weten we niet genoeg om te concluderen of het wel of niet om een oorlogsmisdaad gaat
Rusland die dagelijks burgers bombardeert is een oorlogsmisdaad.
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Rusland die dagelijks burgers bombardeert is een oorlogsmisdaad.
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beide gevallen weten we niet genoeg om te concluderen of het wel of niet om een oorlogsmisdaad gaat
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:') :')
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:') :')
jongen als je er geen verstand van hebt kun je ook gewoon je mond houden he :') :') :') :')
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:22
anders vraag je om verduidelijking of wat dan ook maar die eeuwige :') als je vastzit begint heel irritant te worden ...
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jongen als je er geen verstand van hebt kun je ook gewoon je mond houden he :') :') :') :')
Als jij daar nou eens mee begint ;)
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Als jij daar nou eens mee begint ;)
ik heb er wel verstand van
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:23
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88s.gif Op zondag 23 juni 2024 18:22 schreef sp3c het volgende:
anders vraag je om verduidelijking of wat dan ook maar die eeuwige :') als je vastzit begint heel irritant te worden ...
Rusland pleegt dagelijks oorlogsmisdaden. Als jij dan komt posten dat het niet zeker is, dan kom ik met :') :') ja. Gek he?
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Rusland pleegt dagelijks oorlogsmisdaden. Als jij dan komt posten dat het niet zeker is, dan kom ik met :') :') ja. Gek he?
jij zegt dat het dagelijks bombarderen van burgers een oorlogsmisdaad is

dat hoeft niet, dat weet je niet, daar heb jij echt helemaal geen verstand van, als je denkt van wel dan kun je het specificeren, om opheldering vragen of je mond houden, kies zelf maar

wij bombardeerden Belgrado in 1999 ook dagelijks, weet je hoeveel mensen daarvoor zijn aangeklaagd?

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Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:27
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jij zegt dat het dagelijks bombarderen van burgers een oorlogsmisdaad is

dat hoeft niet, dat weet je niet, daar heb jij echt helemaal geen verstand van, als je denkt van wel dan kun je het specificeren, om opheldering vragen of je mond houden, kies zelf maar

wij bombardeerden Belgrado in 1999 ook dagelijks, weet je hoeveel mensen daarvoor zijn aangeklaagd?

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Volgens Poetin zijn het allemaal nazi's dus legitiem doelwit en dus geen oorlogsmisdaad?
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:28
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82nd Air Assault Brigade received Fort-600 grenade launchers
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Ukrainian paratroopers of the 82nd Brigade with the Fort-600 grenade launchers. June 2024, Ukraine. Photo credits: Come Back Alive Foundation

The Come Back Alive Foundation transferred a batch of Fort-600 grenade launchers to the 82nd Air Assault Brigade’s soldiers.

The Foundation reported that the batch consists of 40 single-shot hand grenade launchers.

“They are perfect for assault operations when you need to knock the invaders out of trenches and dugouts,” the donors shared.

The Fort-600 hand-held single-shot grenade launchers are also good for defense when it is necessary to stop the advance of enemy infantry.

The cost of this batch is UAH 1,399,440 (approximately UAH 35 thousand per grenade launcher).
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Ukrainian paratroopers of the 82nd Brigade with the Fort-600 grenade launchers. June 2024, Ukraine. Photo credits: Come Back Alive Foundation

Ukrnafta also helped to raise funds for the hand grenade launchers by making a contribution.

The Fort-600 single-shot hand-held grenade launcher is designed to fire 40-mm high-explosive, HE-Frag, HEAT, or other combat grenades.

The weapon is used to destroy enemy manpower and equipment.

The Fort-600 can also fire non-lethal grenades, such as gas, stun grenades, etc.
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Ukrainian paratroopers of the 82nd Brigade with the Fort-600 grenade launchers. June 2024, Ukraine. Photo credits: Come Back Alive Foundation

The firing pin of this model has a built-in damper, which allows for a twofold reduction in recoil.

Prior to the Russian full-scale invasion, the grenade launcher was one of the weapons that the State Scientific and Production Association “Fort” of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine could produce
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Ukrainian paratroopers of the 82nd Brigade with the Fort-600 grenade launchers. June 2024, Ukraine. Photo credits: Come Back Alive Foundation

In April, it was reported that the Come Back Alive Foundation had delivered 884 Fort-600 single-shot hand grenade launchers to the Ukrainian military. The cost of all these hand grenade launchers was almost UAH 31 million.
Die Come Back Alive Foundation is ook al de hele oorlog (sinds 2014) goed bezig zeg met hun crowdfund acties.
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:28
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Volgens Poetin zijn het allemaal nazi's dus legitiem doelwit en dus geen oorlogsmisdaad?
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Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:30
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Nou leg eens uit hoe de aanval van gisteren op Kharkiv, op een school, geen oorlogsmisdaad is?
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:31
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Nou leg eens uit hoe de aanval van gisteren op Kharkiv, op een school, geen oorlogsmisdaad is?
zeg ik dat het geen oorlogsmisdaad is?

leg jij maar uit hoe het het wel is
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:33
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34725
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Kyiv Strikes Key Russian Command Post, Drones Reported in Multiple Russian Regions
This attack followed the one conducted on Friday, when Ukrainian forces struck a Shahed drone warehouse in Russia's Krasnodar Territory.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine successfully destroyed the control point of a Russian motorized rifle regiment early morning on Sunday, June 23, the General Staff reported.

"Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in cooperation with other Defense Forces components, successfully attacked the control point of the enemy's motorized rifle regiment in Nehoteevka, Belgorod region," the General Staff said in a statement.

"Explosions were recorded, and the target was successfully hit."
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Meanwhile, the Russian Defense Ministry reported that 33 "aircraft-type drones" were downed across four regions early morning on Sunday, June 23. Twenty-eight drones" were shot down over the Bryansk region, the local governor reported.

"Several municipal districts in the region were subjected to a massive attack. Thanks to our valiant air defence units, all air targets were intercepted and destroyed," Bogomaz wrote, adding that 12 drones were downed in the first hour of the attack. He reported no casualties or damage.

Vasily Anokhin, head of the Smolensk region, reported on his Telegram channel that air defense forces repelled an attack over Smolensk and Yartsevo.

"According to preliminary information, there are no casualties or damage from falling debris," Anokhin stated without specifying the number of drones involved.

This attack followed the one conducted on Friday, June 21, when Ukrainian forces struck a Shahed drone warehouse in Russia's Krasnodar Territory.

Satellite images published by OSINT analyst Brady Africk confirmed the destruction of the Shahed-136/Geran-2 storage and preparation sites, educational buildings, and control points.

The Ukrainian Naval Forces reported that, in addition to the drones, the attack also killed qualified instructors and cadets who were training to launch Shahed-136/Geran-2 drones at Ukrainian targets.
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:34
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zeg ik dat het geen oorlogsmisdaad is?

leg jij maar uit hoe het het wel is
Ik vroeg het jou eerst.
Discombobulatezondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:35
Wat zitten we weer hoog in onze emoties.
Cilantrozondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:35
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Is dit een oorlogsmisdaad?

Hij geeft zich over maar wordt toch opgeblazen.

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Wat mij betreft is dit karma.
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:35
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Ik vroeg het jou eerst.
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Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:36
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sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:37
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maar je hebt dus geen idee welke regel hier is overtreden?

moet ik je op weg helpen?
Joppiezzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:37
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beide gevallen weten we niet genoeg om te concluderen of het wel of niet om een oorlogsmisdaad gaat
Is het uberhaupt nog boeiend om het over oorlogsmisdaden te hebben?
Rusland heeft er al zo'n 10000 begaan en Oekraine vast ook wel nu en dan.
Het heeft ondertussen alle lading wel verloren.
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:38
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maar je hebt dus geen idee welke regel hier is overtreden?

moet ik je op weg helpen?
:') :') :')

Leg nou maar eens uit waarom het geen oorlogsmisdaad zou zijn.
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:39
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Die minidrone heeft een bereik van 3 km max.
Het gaat niet om het bereik, het gaat om de vliegtijd. Overgeven dmv FPV drones is zeer moeilijk, aangezien die drones (met hun 4 motoren) slechts zeer kort in de lucht kunnen blijven.

Afgezien daarvan, kan ik me voorstellen dat Oekrainsche soldaten weinig medelijden hebben met russen, die hun steden bombarderen met willekeurige aanvallen met bijv. S-300 raketten.
Ik zou waarschijnlijk hetzelfde gedaan hebben, iedere dode rus betekent dat mijn familie veiliger is..
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:39
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Is het uberhaupt nog boeiend om het over oorlogsmisdaden te hebben?
Rusland heeft er al zo'n 10000 begaan en Oekraine vast ook wel nu en dan.
nou ik begin er niet over, iemand vroeg of iets een oorlogsmisdaad was en imo hebben we niet genoeg informatie om ja of nee te zeggen

maar ik vind dat wel boeiend ja

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Het heeft ondertussen alle lading wel verloren.
zou niet weten waarom
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:39
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:') :') :')

Leg nou maar eens uit waarom het geen oorlogsmisdaad zou zijn.
ik stel nergens dat het geen oorlogsmisdaad is

kun je jezelf belachelijk blijven maken maar dat is dan jouw dingetje :')
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:41
https://www.india.com/vid(...)ussia-india-7034346/
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Russia Approves Draft Logistics Agreement With India | Russia- India
The relationship between India and Russia is one built on decades of strategic partnership and mutual cooperation and deepning this ...

The relationship between India and Russia is one built on decades of strategic partnership and mutual cooperation and deepning this relationship, In a significant move, Russia has approved a draft logistics agreement with India.

First let’s let’s talk about what is this agreement So the India Russia logistics pact is an agreement drafted between India and Russia. This agreement allows the militaries of India and Russia to use each other’s facilities for resupplying and refueling during joint exercises, port visits, and other agreed activities.

According to Russian media, Russia’s Prime Minister has asked the Ministry of Defence to start talks with India to finalize the logistics pact. If agreed upon, the pact will last for five years and will automatically renew unless either country chooses to end it.

This proposed logistics pact continues the long-standing military relationship between Russia and India. Infact In 2021, they signed a comprehensive agreement on military-technical cooperation that lasts until 2030.

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The relationship between India and Russia is one built on decades of strategic partnership and mutual cooperation and deepning this relationship, In a significant move, Russia has approved a draft logistics agreement with India.

First let’s let’s talk about what is this agreement So the India Russia logistics pact is an agreement drafted between India and Russia. This agreement allows the militaries of India and Russia to use each other’s facilities for resupplying and refueling during joint exercises, port visits, and other agreed activities.

According to Russian media, Russia’s Prime Minister has asked the Ministry of Defence to start talks with India to finalize the logistics pact. If agreed upon, the pact will last for five years and will automatically renew unless either country chooses to end it.

This proposed logistics pact continues the long-standing military relationship between Russia and India. Infact In 2021, they signed a comprehensive agreement on military-technical cooperation that lasts until 2030.

India is no stranger to logistics pacts. The country has similar agreements with the United States, France, South Korea, Singapore, Australia, and Japan. These pacts are important for improving India’s strategic reach and readiness, helping its military to carry out longer and more complex missions.

India maintains diverse and strategic relationships around the world. India’s global relationships are shaped by its strategic interests, economic goals, and diplomatic efforts to maintain peace and stability in the region and beyond.
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:42
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ik stel nergens dat het geen oorlogsmisdaad is

kun je jezelf belachelijk blijven maken maar dat is dan jouw dingetje :')
JE stelt alleen maar vragen :')
Pleun2011zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:42
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zeg ik dat het geen oorlogsmisdaad is?

leg jij maar uit hoe het het wel is
Vermoeiend type ben jij in discussies.
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:43
RIA: Islamitische (?) aanslag in Dagestan, rusland.
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:43
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Vermoeiend type ben jij in discussies.
hoezo?
StateOfMindzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:44
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Als al die mannen die gevlucht zijn, of zich nu verstoppen om maar niet het leger in te moeten, zich gewoon braaf gemeld hadden, dan had de oorlog er nu al heel anders uit kunnen zien.

Zij hebben bijgedragen aan het voortduren van de oorlog en elke Oekraense soldaat die door een te kort aan soldaten gedood zijn.

Al horen ze natuurlijk wel gewoon goed uitgerust en getraind te worden. Wat volgens mij standaard zo'n 3 maanden is daar.
En ik snap best dat niet iedereen het ziet zitten om te gaan vechten, maar als jouw land tegen wil en dank een oorlog wordt in gesleurd omdat een ander land binnen gevallen is, komt er vroeg of laat het moment dat het beroepsleger niet meer toereikend is, en dan zullen de aantallen moeten worden aangevuld door de dienstplicht.

Daar kun je vanalles van vinden natuurlijk, maar dat is hoe het eenmaal gaat.

Ook hier in het Westen en ook in Nederland, mocht de shit echt hard de fan raken.
Maar dat willen sommigen maar niet begrijpen.
TheoddDutchGuyzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:46
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Rusland pleegt dagelijks oorlogsmisdaden. Als jij dan komt posten dat het niet zeker is, dan kom ik met :') :') ja. Gek he?
Ja maar hullie doen het ook.
Wel af en toe de eer aan jezelf houden, de man was ongewapend en je kan dan wel debatteren over of hij later met een wapen zou kunnen terug komen, de drone controller ziet gewoon een ongewapende soldaat die ook nog eens vraagt hem niet te doden.

Dat is gewoon moord, de rest van de situatie doet er niet toe.
Als mens hoor je beter te weten.
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:48
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Ja maar hullie doen het ook.
Wel af en toe de eer aan jezelf houden, de man was ongewapend en je kan dan wel debatteren over of hij later met een wapen zou kunnen terug komen, de drone controller ziet gewoon een ongewapende soldaat die ook nog eens vraagt hem niet te doden.

Dat is gewoon moord, de rest van de situatie doet er niet toe.
Als mens hoor je beter te weten.
Ja zo werkt het niet he

Dan gooi je na een hinderlaag gewoon je wapen weg en wandel je in godmode naar de bushalte
Nyamukzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 18:55
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Het is dom gelul ronde 8000.

Je land verdedigen is geen vrijblijvende aangelegenheid, klaar.
Gevalletje 'arbeit macht frei' zeg maar
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Veel mensen hebben ondertussen de overtuiging dat de wereld overbevolkt is. Er zal weinig bezwaar zijn tegen vrijwilligers die zich aanmelden om te sterven.
Overbevolkt met een gemiddeld steeds ouder wordende bevolking. En in de meeste landen te weinig kinderen.

[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Nyamuk op 23-06-2024 18:57:26 (foutje) ]
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:00
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nou ik begin er niet over, iemand vroeg of iets een oorlogsmisdaad was en imo hebben we niet genoeg informatie om ja of nee te zeggen

maar ik vind dat wel boeiend ja
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zou niet weten waarom
Scholen vallen onder dezelfde categorie als ziekenhuizen (met enkele verschillen). Deze vallen dus onder burgerdoelwitten, bij enige twijfel vallen zij nog steeds onder burgerdoelwitten. Dit staat niet specifiek zo in de Geneva Conventie. Maar dit is wel zo door de UN/internationale wetgeving aangemerkt. Zij hebben dus een beschermde status.

Alleen wanneer er geen twijfel is over dat een school voor militaire doeleinden gebruikt wordt is dit een legitiem doelwit.

Uiteraard is het geen oorlogsmisdaad als er militaire materieel naast gestald staat en/of de school indirect schade wordt toegebracht.

https://puc.overheid.nl/mrt/doc/PUC_286172_11/

Dus ja, een school is niet in alle gevallen een burgerdoelwit. Maar hij heeft wel een beschermde status. En van de Russen weten wij ondertussen wel dat zij geen onderscheidt maken tussen burger doelwitten en militaire doelwitten.

En de teller staat nu op meer dan 100.000 oorlogsmisdaden die begaan zijn door Rusland. Al zijn dit cijfers van Oekrane zelf.
https://www.government.nl(...)uring-war-in-ukraine
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:05
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Scholen vallen onder dezelfde categorie als ziekenhuizen (met enkele verschillen). Deze vallen dus onder burgerdoelwitten, bij enige twijfel vallen zij nog steeds onder burgerdoelwitten. Dit staat niet specifiek zo in de Geneva Conventie. Maar dit is wel zo door de UN/internationale wetgeving aangemerkt. Zij hebben dus een beschermde status.

Alleen wanneer er geen twijfel is over dat een school voor militaire doeleinden gebruikt wordt is dit een legitiem doelwit.

Uiteraard is het geen oorlogsmisdaad als er militaire materieel naast gestald staat en/of de school indirect schade wordt toegebracht.

https://puc.overheid.nl/mrt/doc/PUC_286172_11/

Dus ja, een school is niet in alle gevallen een burgerdoelwit. Maar hij heeft wel een beschermde status. En van de Russen weten wij ondertussen wel dat zij geen onderscheidt maken tussen burger doelwitten en militaire doelwitten.

En de teller staat nu op meer dan 100.000 oorlogsmisdaden die begaan zijn door Rusland. Al zijn dit cijfers van Oekrane zelf.
https://www.government.nl(...)uring-war-in-ukraine
klopt allemaal

maar ik weet niet wat er in die school gebeurden, ik weet niet waar de Russen op probeerden te schieten (hoeft niet per se die school te zijn geweest) en ik weet niet wat de militaire noodzaak was om een raket die kant uit te schieten

kan zelfs dat de school een militair doel had maar dat het belang daarvan zo minimaal is dat je het midden in de stad nog steeds niet aan mag grijpen denk dan bv aan een opslagplaats voor de groene onderbroekjes ofzo :P

shit is allemaal niet zo eenvoudig zwart of wit

tl;dr met de beperkte informatie die ik heb kan ik dit niet beoordelen

het is wel een hele matige actie iig
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:05
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Ja maar hullie doen het ook.
Wel af en toe de eer aan jezelf houden, de man was ongewapend en je kan dan wel debatteren over of hij later met een wapen zou kunnen terug komen, de drone controller ziet gewoon een ongewapende soldaat die ook nog eens vraagt hem niet te doden.

Dat is gewoon moord, de rest van de situatie doet er niet toe.
Als mens hoor je beter te weten.
Dit is niet hoe je je overgeeft.

Dat doe je door je handen omhoog te doen en richting de vijand te lopen.

Of je wel of niet gewapend bent is niet relevant. Er zijn al duizenden ongewapende chauffeurs, ongewapende radar operators, en ongewapende logistieke medewerkers gedood deze oorlog.
Militair uniform = legitiem doelwit.
TheoddDutchGuyzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:07
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Dit is niet hoe je je overgeeft.

Dat doe je door je handen omhoog te doen en richting de vijand te lopen.

Of je wel of niet gewapend bent is niet relevant. Er zijn al duizenden ongewapende chauffeurs, ongewapende radar operators, en ongewapende logistieke medewerkers gedood deze oorlog.
Militair uniform = legitiem doelwit.
De man rent weg omdat ze met een drone hem opjagen, ik zou ook rennen.
Perrinzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:08
Wat een beelden.
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:09
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Ja maar hullie doen het ook.
Wel af en toe de eer aan jezelf houden, de man was ongewapend en je kan dan wel debatteren over of hij later met een wapen zou kunnen terug komen, de drone controller ziet gewoon een ongewapende soldaat die ook nog eens vraagt hem niet te doden.

Dat is gewoon moord, de rest van de situatie doet er niet toe.
Als mens hoor je beter te weten.
Wij zien slechts een klein deel van wat er zich afgespeeld heeft. Hij kan zijn wapen hebben laten vallen toen hij struikelde. Hij kan net uit een opgeblazen tank gekropen zijn.

Moet Oekrane soms elke soldaat die zijn wapen laat vallen en een smekend gebaar maakt dan maar laten gaan?

Dan zal elke soldaat dat voortaan doen, wanneer het te gevaarlijk wordt hun wapen weggooien en een smekend gebaar maken.

Jezelf overgeven doe je aan een persoon, pas dan heb je een beschermde status. En zelfs dan zal het nemen van een krijgsgevangene niet in alle gevallen mogelijk of wenselijk zijn. Denk bijvoorbeeld aan een special forces operatie ver achter het front. (al zou ik niet weten wat dan de regels zijn).

En technisch gezien zou je elke dode in een oorlog als moord kunnen zien, want je wil de vijand doden, en als het kan doe je dat ook (met wat uitzonderingen nagelaten natuurlijk). Maar het doden van een vijand in een oorlog is legaal terwijl moord dat zelf niet is.
ipa84zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:09
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:11
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De man rent weg omdat ze met een drone hem opjagen, ik zou ook rennen.
Dat is dus geen overgeven he. Bedankt dat je mijn punt onderstreept.
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:12
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Ook echt 0 aarzeling he.

Oh je bent gewond? Hier, 9mm russische 1e hulp voor je! Doei!

Had ie zich maar moeten overgeven :')
BlaZzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:15
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Ik ben bij dit soort enqutes vooral benieuwd naar een specificatie per oblast.
Staat erbij en komt eigenlijk wel overeen met hoe zwaar de oblasten getroffen zijn. De steun voor de oorlog is het hoogste in Kiiv (73%) en het laagste in Kherson, Odessa en Mykolaiv (45%).
Het is even wachten op nieuwere cijfers, dit is uit 2023.
TheoddDutchGuyzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:15
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Dat is dus geen overgeven he. Bedankt dat je mijn punt onderstreept.
Hij wil niet vermoord worden, de intentie was nogal duidelijk.
Digi2zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:16
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:19
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Wat een beelden.
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Dat hij daar nog durft te rijden lol. De hele route ligt bezaaid met wrakken en lijken.

Hij heeft wel een erge coole bril, misschien dat dat helpt.
Harmankardonzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:24
Russen die denken dat ze ‘buut vrij’ kunnen roepen.
ipa84zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:24
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Hij wil niet vermoord worden, de intentie was nogal duidelijk.
Als die niet vermoord wou worden, had hij niet het Russische leger in moeten gaan om mee te vechten in Oekrane. Of had zich moeten overgeven en dat is niet je wapen weggooien en een smeek gebaar maken. Er zijn gewoon beelden van Russische soldaten die zich overgeven en door drones worden begeleid om naar de Oekraens linies te gaan waar ze gevangen genomen worden.
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:27
Hij heeft geen geweer

Of hij ongewapend is weten we niet
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:27
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Hij wil niet vermoord worden, de intentie was nogal duidelijk.
Niet gedood willen worden is iets anders dan jezelf overgeven.

Handjes de lucht in, rustig richting de vijand lopen, en alle instructies opvolgen.
Discombobulatezondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:29
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Zo bijzonder is dat niet in Dagestan.
Digi2zondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:30
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Zo bijzonder is dat niet in Dagestan.
In Frankrijk ook niet.
sp3czondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:33
Standaard is het iig ook niet
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Ben benieuwd hoe lang het duurt voordat Oekrane hier de schuld van krijgt.
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Ben benieuwd hoe lang het duurt voordat Oekrane hier de schuld van krijgt.
0.03 femtoseconde :P
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En ik snap best dat niet iedereen het ziet zitten om te gaan vechten, maar als jouw land tegen wil en dank een oorlog wordt in gesleurd omdat een ander land binnen gevallen is, komt er vroeg of laat het moment dat het beroepsleger niet meer toereikend is, en dan zullen de aantallen moeten worden aangevuld door de dienstplicht.

Daar kun je vanalles van vinden natuurlijk, maar dat is hoe het eenmaal gaat.

Ook hier in het Westen en ook in Nederland, mocht de shit echt hard de fan raken.
Maar dat willen sommigen maar niet begrijpen.
Wss vinden die gasten het stiekem wel ok dat Rusland; Nederland binnenvalt...
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:36
https://kyivindependent.c(...)blast-over-past-day/
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Military: Russian forces dropped 35 glide bombs on Kharkiv Oblast over past day
Russian troops attacked Kharkiv Oblast with 35 glide bombs in the past 24 hours, Nazar Voloshyn, the spokesperson for the Khortytsia group of forces, said on national television on June 23.

Russia recently intensified attacks against Kharkiv, Ukraine's second-biggest city after Kyiv, with the use of missiles, glide bombs, and drones, destroying energy infrastructure and killing civilians.

According to Voloshyn, Russian troops launched a total of 20 airstrikes using 35 glide bombs and one missile strike on Kharkiv Oblast in the past day. Just one village of Lyptsi in Kharkiv Oblast endured attacks using 17 glide bombs, he said.

Later in the day, the Khortytsia group of forces posted on Telegram that as of 2:30 p.m. on June 23, from the direction of Belgorod, Russian troops had already dropped 29 glide bombs "on positions of our forces and settlements."

"Hlyboke, Vovchansk, Vovchanski Khutory, and Lyptsi were under attack. In the Lyptsi area, Russian troops dropped 23 guided bombs," the post reads.

Earlier on June 22, Russian forces struck the city of Kharkiv with glide bombs, killing three people and injuring 54.

Three glide bombs hit an enterprise in the Kholodnohirskyi district, and another one struck a five-story residential building in the Osnovianskyi district. The attack was reportedly launched from Belgorod Oblast, the regional prosecutor's office reported.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:43
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Fragments of a downed missile fell on a Crimean beach
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3 people have been killed and more than 100 injured in occupied Crimea as a result of the unprofessional actions of the Russian air defense system.

It is reported that the air alert was activated after the explosions. The Russian military, as usual, claimed to have shot down all aerial targets.

The occupation authorities disregarded the safety of civilians by placing military equipment in places where civilians were gathered, resulting in injuries and deaths.

Strong explosions are also reported in Sevastopol, and traffic on the Crimean Bridge is blocked.
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The Defense Ministry of the aggressor country told RF that the strike on the temporarily occupied Crimea was allegedly carried out by US ATACMS operational-tactical missiles equipped with cluster warheads.

“Therefore, responsibility for the deliberate missile strike on civilians in Sevastopol lies primarily with Washington, which supplied these weapons to Ukraine, as well as the Kyiv regime from whose territory this strike was carried out,” the ministry said.

They also stated that “such actions will not remain unanswered.”

Earlier, the Ukrainian military command repeatedly urged Crimean to refrain from resort sites near Russian military facilities.

The population of the occupied peninsula was asked to avoid places of mass gathering of people and to stay away from any Russian military facilities in the annexed Crimea.

Today’s tragedy in Crimea is the result not only of the work of poor Russian air defence systems, but also of the carelessness of citizens who forget that there is a war going on.
Volgens Rusland ging het natuurlijk om een ATACM met cluster munitie en was het Amerika en Oekrane zijn schuld. Niet hun eigen. Alsof Oekrane zijn ATACMS zou gebruiken om burgers op een strand aan te vallen lol. Wat extra filmpjes in het artikel die nog niet langsgekomen waren.
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Niet gedood willen worden is iets anders dan jezelf overgeven.

Handjes de lucht in, rustig richting de vijand lopen, en alle instructies opvolgen.
Die kans kreeg hij niet, iedere keer als hij zich omdraaide joegen ze hem verder op.
Sociopatisch gedrag.
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Volgens Rusland ging het natuurlijk om een ATACM met cluster munitie en was het Amerika en Oekrane zijn schuld. Niet hun eigen. Alsof Oekrane zijn ATACMS zou gebruiken om burgers op een strand aan te vallen lol. Wat extra filmpjes in het artikel die nog niet langsgekomen waren.
Die Russen hebben er letterlijk nog geen 1 ATACM of stormshadow uit de lucht weten te schieten.
Dit is waarschijnlijk vallend puin geweest van hun eigen afweer.

Dat is tenminste daadwerkelijk vaker gebeurd.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:46
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In a surprise announcement at the Fires Symposium, Program Director Mike Evans revealed that AM General has provided a test article of their 105 mm Hawkeye Mobile Howitzer System to Ukraine in April 2024.

The Hawkeye is currently undergoing operational testing and evaluation in Ukrainian service.

“We recently put a 105 mm system into Ukraine. We shipped it in April and trained for two weeks,” Evans stated. “That system is destined to be one of the first soft recoil systems in combat. It’s going into combat to test on live targets.”

The Hawkeye Mobile Howitzer is known for its high mobility and versatility. It can be transported by various means, including transport aircraft, helicopters, and can even be air-dropped. The platform’s stability is ensured by four hydraulic stabilizers, allowing for horizontal aiming of 180 degrees and vertical aiming from -5 to +72 degrees. The system is designed for a crew of four, but can be operated by just two if necessary.

The Hawkeye’s firing range with standard ammunition is 11.6 kilometers, and it can reach up to 19.5 kilometers with rocket-assisted projectiles. The maximum firing rate is eight rounds per minute for three minutes, with a sustained rate of three rounds per minute. The howitzer can use the full range of 105 mm ammunition utilized by the U.S. Army.

The fire control system includes an M137A2 optical telescope sight and a digital system MG 9000. This digital system comprises an LN-270 inertial navigation system from Northrop Grumman, a DFS-02 direct fire sight camera from Sekai Electronics, Inc, an S67-1575-76 GPS antenna from Sensor Systems Inc, a Weibul Scientific muzzle velocity radar, and a Mandus display unit for the gunner.
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:53
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South Korea’s State Adviser: Russia’s transfer of technology to DPRK will lift restrictions on arms transfers to Ukraine
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K136 Kooryong MRL. Photo credits: Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Korea

South Korea’s National Security Advisor Chang Ho-jin has named the conditions under which Ukraine will receive weapons.

He said this during his participation in the KBS television program.

He noted that the transfer of weapons to Ukraine will directly depend on similar actions by Russia, which plans to transfer technology and high-precision weapons to the DPRK.

“The limit for South Korea is if Russia transfers high-precision weapons or technology to North Korea,” Chang Ho-jin said.
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K9 Thunder self-propelled guns of the Ground Forces of South Korea. Photo credits: Ministry of Defense of South Korea

In addition, he noted that once this “red line” is crossed, South Korea will not hesitate to support Ukraine and transfer all possible lethal weapons.

It is worth reminding that after Russia and the DPRK signed a strategic partnership agreement, which also includes military assistance to each other in the event of aggression, the South Korean government urgently began considering lifting the ban on arms supplies to Ukraine.

This is primarily due to the threat posed by the DPRK, which may receive modern missile technology and missile weapons from Russia.

It should be noted that South Korea currently has a ban on the transfer of lethal weapons to Ukraine. In addition, South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol confirmed his position on the ban on arms transfers to Ukraine on May 9, 2024.
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South Korea’s arsenal of cruise and ballistic missiles. Photo credits: CSIS

Representatives of the Russian government reacted negatively to South Korea’s announcement, noting that the transfer of arms would be a “big mistake” that would worsen relations between the two countries.

In turn, South Korean officials are seeking to reach an agreement to improve relations with Russia and thus ensure a more peaceful environment on the Korean peninsula.

As a reminder, Russia and the DPRK have signed a strategic partnership agreement, which also includes military assistance to each other in case of aggression.

The agreement was concluded during Russian President Vladimir Putin’s visit to Pyongyang, where he met with DPRK Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un.
Hopelijk zal Rusland deze rode lijn snel oversteken dan.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 19:58
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Wat extra beelden.
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Wat een beelden.
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Onironisch Mad Max.

Wat een aanvoerlijnen. Doet me denk aan de logistiek van een afrikaans rebellenleger.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 20:23
https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)ng_in_dagestan_nsfw/
ISIS caught on video shooting in Dagestan NSFW!

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)e_freedom_of_russia/
Guerrillas supporting the Freedom of Russia legion destroyed the control cabinet in the Smolensk region, Russia, temporarily stopping the flow of the cargo of military equipment to the front. June 22~23, 2024

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ISIS Terrorist shooting in Dagestan. Police under heavy fire. According to Mash Telegram Terrorists took 40 people hostage, they are locked in an Orthodox church in the Kirovsky district of Makhachkala

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A Ukrainian soldier kills two Russian fighters in close combat in the Kharkov region
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Just watched interview with this guy. He's not even a stormtrooper. He is Third Assault Breagade's supply track driver and was injured by a drone (thus the bandages on his leg and arm) while temporaly came to this position. He said that to mend his wounds he prefers bandages since he saw "terrible cosequences of applying tourniquets" as he had put it. So he retreated to a dugout to apply bandages. Meanwhile Russians assaulted this position with tank fire and drones wounding all other Ukrainian soldiers who retreated. Hovewer only three Russian stormtroopers survived this assault as well. So the Ukrainian soldier heard Russians radio communication that position is "cleared" and tryed to figure out what's going on. Russians saw him and threw granade at him wich exploded slightly above and behind Ukrainian soldier wounding his back and legs. The injuries weren't critical so he opened fire and threw his own granade at Russians and then finished them off with his assault rifle to avoid, as he said, checking on them and wasting time.

P.S. He also told how he enlisted. He is from the south of Ukraine and at the very beginnign of the war he went with his 6 years old daughter to check rabbits in their garden. That's when Russian cluster munition hit them, injuring his and his daughters legs. They were taken to the hospital where he decided to enlist.
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Aftermath of FAB strike in Kharkiv

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In Russia, a Shahed warehouse was destroyed thanks to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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05/29/2024 two Destroyed Russian self-propelled gun 2S19M2 Msta-S near the village. Zhitlovka (Peschanoe) Luhansk region.
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Hopelijk zal Rusland deze rode lijn snel oversteken dan.
Laat Rusland dus maar graan en wijn exporteren naar Noord Korea als dank voor haar miljoenen granaten enz. Zal Kim Jong Un leuk vinden. Lijkt me sterk overigens dat er al niet e.e.a. aan Noord Korea (en Iran) gegeven is als part of the deal.
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 21:15
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Laat Rusland dus maar graan en wijn exporteren naar Noord Korea als dank voor haar miljoenen granaten enz. Zal Kim Jong Un leuk vinden. Lijkt me sterk overigens dat er al niet e.e.a. aan Noord Korea (en Iran) gegeven is als part of the deal.
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The limit for South Korea is if Russia transfers high-precision weapons or technology to North Korea,” Chang Ho-jin said.
Graan en wijn valt dus niet onder de rode lijn. Het gaat vooral om hoge precisie wapens of technologie (wat vast slaat op de hoge precisie wapens), dus een tractor zal er ook niet onder vallen.

Maar Rusland heeft vast al dit soort technologie geleverd. Want hun technici waren daar ook om te helpen met de raket die een satelliet de lucht in moest krijgen.
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Na 2 jaar ben ik redelijk gerriteerd aan het raken van dit soort clickbait filmpjes, hoewel deze nog redelijk aan inhoud zijn is de schreeuwerige titel mij gewoon een doorn in het oog aan het worden.
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Na 2 jaar ben ik redelijk gerriteerd aan het raken van dit soort clickbait filmpjes, hoewel deze nog redelijk aan inhoud zijn is de schreeuwerige titel mij gewoon een doorn in het oog aan het worden.
Ik let niet eens op de titel of the thumbnails. Ik ga af op de inhoud en die is altijd prima in orde.
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Dat filmpje en artikel gaat over Oekraners die opgeofferd worden.
En wat is het alternatief dan?
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 21:44
https://www.telegraph.co.(...)-drone-robot-wall-e/
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Russia unveils anti-drone robot named after Disney character
Unmanned ground vehicle known as Wall-E creates invisible dome that jams aerial signals

Russia has deployed a new anti-drone robot named after Disney’s rubbish-collecting Wall-E.

The unmanned vehicle is designed to produce an invisible dome that jams aerial drone attacks and protects troops on the ground.

The machine uses electronic warfare blockers, Russian state TV said, in the latest advancement to keep away kamikaze drones that have been pivotal to the war for Ukraine.

The ground robot is fitted with a so-called “fumigator” electronic warfare system, which can disrupt the signal between a drone and its operator, often rendering unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) useless.

Its manufacturer, Rebovets, said the system is capable of producing a dome with a radius of between 250 and 300 metres within which enemy drones will fail.

The Telegraph could not verify the claims made by the firm.
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Russia’s use of electronic warfare – such as jammers that can scramble the signals that Ukraine’s drones rely on to operate reliably – has been one of its rare technological advantages.

The Kremlin has managed to develop a knack for taking out some of Ukraine’s most prized missiles and rockets, including those fired from the US-supplied Himars.

Its forces have managed to erect an invisible wall of electromagnetic pulses that stretches like a shield along most of the front line.

Ukrainian soldiers have previously told The Telegraph they are fully aware that they are at a disadvantage when it comes to Russia’s array of electronic warfare systems.

The occupier’s forces have everything from truck-mounted systems that can block drones at a six mile radius, to more lightweight devices like the Wall-E or smaller yet that are fitted in soldiers’ backpacks.

Video footage released alongside social media posts of the new robot cuts between the Wall-E machine moving across a grassy area and a Russian soldier explaining what it is and how it works.

“Russian developers of electronic warfare systems demonstrated the first domestic tracked platform with a jamming system installed on it,” the Russian art of war channel said on the Telegram messaging app. “She successfully passed all tests.”

It comes as Russia has been experimenting with so-called turtle tanks, a more rudimentary way of protecting its vehicles from drone attacks.
Ik ben niet zeker of ik al eerder een artikel hierover geplaatst heb. Maar eerst zien en dan geloven of hij daadwerkelijk werkt.
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Gevalletje 'arbeit macht frei' zeg maar

Nope, gevalletje als je in de jaren '70 in NL oproep voor dienstplicht negeerde kwamen ze je ook halen, zeg maar.
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Ik let niet eens op de titel of the thumbnails. Ik ga af op de inhoud en die is altijd prima in orde.
Zijn inhoudelijk prima filmpjes ja! Gewoon blijven plaatsen ^O^
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Nope, gevalletje als je in de jaren '70 in NL oproep voor dienstplicht negeerde kwamen ze je ook halen, zeg maar.
Wat een debiele vergelijking ook.. de tandjes..
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 21:56
Het is wel gezellig daar.

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Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 21:57
Nog meer raketten op De Krim _O_

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Perrinzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 21:58
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Nog meer raketten op De Krim _O_

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Mooi!
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Perrinzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 22:03
Dit is geraakt zo te lezen:
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Dit is geraakt zo te lezen:
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Voltreffer *O* *O* *O*
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Adel en Omar Omarov, zonen van de gouverneur van het district Sergokalinsk.

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Ja maar hullie doen het ook.
Wel af en toe de eer aan jezelf houden, de man was ongewapend en je kan dan wel debatteren over of hij later met een wapen zou kunnen terug komen, de drone controller ziet gewoon een ongewapende soldaat die ook nog eens vraagt hem niet te doden.

Dat is gewoon moord, de rest van de situatie doet er niet toe.
Als mens hoor je beter te weten.
Waarom zou je genade moeten tonen voor militairen van een volk dat je (Oekraense) collega soldaten inmiddels zelfs onthoofd?
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En wat is het alternatief dan?
Volgens neeoftochja en zijn mede collaborateurtjes een onvoorwaardelijke Oekraense overgave, zodat de Russen hun handen vrij hebben om hun veldtocht richting westen aan te vangen.
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Wat zitten we weer hoog in onze emoties.
Musk moet een beetje opschieten met die BCI's :)
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Na 2 jaar ben ik redelijk gerriteerd aan het raken van dit soort clickbait filmpjes, hoewel deze nog redelijk aan inhoud zijn is de schreeuwerige titel mij gewoon een doorn in het oog aan het worden.
Schreeuwerige titels zijn inderdaad kut, probleem is alleen dat het werkt.
ohengzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 22:23
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En daar gaat je deep space communicatie.

Iedere drone of raket kan miljardenschade aanrichten.
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En daar gaat je deep space communicatie.

Iedere drone of raket kan miljardenschade aanrichten.
Lastig.

Ff scamblen naar andere schotel installaties, hopen dat je de credentials hebt om controle over satellieten en whatnot te kunnen nemen, en die niet daar onsite in vlammen opgegaan zijn.
Starhopperzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 22:32
Wel interessant :)
https://www.russianspaceweb.com/kik_nip16.html
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Lastig.

Ff scamblen naar andere schotel installaties, hopen dat je de credentials hebt om controle over satellieten en whatnot te kunnen nemen, en die niet daar onsite in vlammen opgegaan zijn.
Afhankelijk van wat geraakt is, kan dit best wel uniek zijn. Zoveel deep space antennes zijn er niet. :')
Misschien dat Oekraine nu ook alle grond radarstations 1 voor 1 afgaat :')
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Wat is hier de militaire significantie van? Of is die maar klein?
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Hebben ze nog iets moois kunnen raken en uitschakelen? *O*
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Jammer dat er alleen resten van een door een Tor gelanceerde raket gevonden zijn he, troll.

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Jammer dat er alleen resten van een door een Tor gelanceerde raket gevonden zijn he, troll.

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Als @kokoshenkov1 het zegt zal het wel zo zijn..
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Als @:kokoshenkov1 het zegt zal het wel zo zijn..
Nee, als het kremlin het zegt, dan zal het wel zo zijn. :W
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:05
Lol.

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Schreeuwerige titels zijn inderdaad kut, probleem is alleen dat het werkt.
Helaas wel,

Een titel als "De 7 meest bizarre schaamhaarkapsels ter wereld, nummer 2 zal je verbijsterd doen staan!"
is gewoon een geijkte truc om engagement te krijgen, en deze kanalen verdienen, soms, aan het aantal views. Dus het zal wel voor de goede zaak zijn.
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Nee, als het kremlin het zegt, dan zal het wel zo zijn. :W
Heeft Kremlin een nepfilmpje gepost?
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Rusland plaats wel vaker zijn militaire materieel naast burger infrastructuur. Tevens heeft Oekrane de Russische burgers gewaarschuwd vooral niet in de buurt te komen van dit materieel of militaire infrastructuur..

En het is al bijna zeker dat dit veroorzaakt is door Russische luchtafweer.

Want Oekrane gaat echt geen ATACMS op een strand afschieten lol. Het zijn tenslotte geen Russen.
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:13
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Heeft Kremlin een nepfilmpje gepost?
A) Genoeg, B) er is een filmpje waarop te zien is precies welk type munitie verantwoordelijk is?
ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:15
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Want Oekrane gaat echt geen ATACMS op een strand afschieten lol. Het zijn tenslotte geen Russen.
Ja maar ja maar ja maar ja maar het kremlin zegt het.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:15
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Als @:kokoshenkov1 het zegt zal het wel zo zijn..
En jij geloofd de Russische ambassade wel op zijn woord? Terwijl daarvan al keer op keer bewezen is dat ze propaganda en leugens verspreiden? Lol.

Even een voorbeeld:
https://nz.news.yahoo.com(...)-sent-193411368.html
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Twitter Removes False Tweets Sent by Russian Embassy in London
Twitter Inc. has removed false tweets from the Russian embassy account in London that claimed images from the bombing of a children's and maternity hospital in Mariupol, Ukraine, were fake.

The now-removed tweets claimed the hospital was "used by armed forces and radicals" and that an injured, pregnant woman who had been photographed in the attack was an actor, according to screenshots published by The Guardian.

A Twitter spokesperson said the tweets were taken down because they violated the social media company's policies on hateful conduct and abusive behavior.

Other official accounts linked to the Kremlin have tweeted false information, including a post from the account of the Russian embassy in South Africa that claimed South Africans had sent a "great number of letters of solidarity" to the embassy and said Russia is fighting "Nazism in Ukraine." The post is still live on Twitter.

Twitter said it has taken steps to curb the spread of false information on the war in past weeks, such as pausing Tweet recommendations and advertisements in Ukraine and Russia. Twitter has been restricted in Russia in retaliation for blocking Russian state-owned media content on the service across the European Union.
Maarja die leugens passen natuurlijk direct in je straatje. Want Rusland goed, westen slecht.

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ExTeczondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:27
Old school cavalerie.

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polderturkzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:30
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Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:41
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)the-belgorod-region/
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Ukrainian aviation hit the command post of the motorized rifle regiment in the Belgorod region
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The moment the building was hit by two high-precision bombs. Photo credits: Ukrainian Air Force
Ukrainian Air Force aircraft successfully hit the command post of a motorized rifle regiment located in the Belgorod region.

A video of the attack was posted online.

The published footage shows damage to a building used as a control post by one of the motorized rifle regiments.

Aviation was used to hit it, dropping precision bombs on the target.
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It should be noted that the attack took place in the village of Nekhotiyivka, Belgorod region, at coordinates 50.34183, 36.29307.

“The Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in cooperation with other components of the Defense Forces, successfully struck at the command post of the enemy motorized rifle regiment located in the village of Nekhotiyivka, Belgorod region (Russia). As a result of combat operations, explosions were recorded. The target was successfully destroyed,” the General Staff stated.

The settlement is located directly on the border with Ukraine near the Belgorod customs office.

The enemy used the control post to coordinate actions on the battlefield, plan operations, develop a plan for building defensive lines, etc.

According to some sources, the officers of the motorized rifle regiment were eliminated.
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The moment the building was hit by two high-precision bombs. Photo credits: Ukrainian Air Force

Militarnyi previously reported that new satellite images of the Russian air base near the city of Morozovsk, Rostov Region, have emerged after a kamikaze drone attack.

The new images, dated June 18, show that the Russians have dismantled the roof of the previously damaged hangar, which, according to older images, housed two aircraft.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:44
https://www.polskieradio.(...)gees-starting-july-1
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Poland to change aid for Ukrainian refugees starting July 1
As Poland adjusts its support mechanisms for Ukrainian refugees, significant changes will take effect on July 1.

These changes, part of amendments to the Law on Aid to Citizens of Ukraine, will see the ending of several financial benefits that have been provided to Ukrainian refugees since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine more than two years ago.

The new legislation will discontinue the one-time allowance of PLN 300 (EUR 69) for basic living expenses and the daily benefit of PLN 40 (EUR 9) for those providing accommodation and food to Ukrainian citizens.

"More and more people are coming to us with a request: help us after July 1. These are often people who have nothing to return to. Until the outbreak of war, they lived in the zone that is now occupied or in the regions directly bordering the front line," said Igor Horkw, chairman of the Przemyśl branch of the Union of Ukrainians in Poland.

Horkw highlighted the uncertain future facing many refugees, noting that two to five thousand Ukrainians arrive in Przemyśl daily , mainly from heavily shelled regions such as Kharkiv, Odessa, and Sumy.

Why?
The Polish government has justified the cessation of the daily benefit by citing difficulties in maintaining the integrity of the system. There were also increasing concerns about applications being submitted by Ukrainian citizens for people who were actually family members.

As of May, over 950,000 Ukrainians residing in Poland had an active national identification (PESEL) number, with the UNHCR forecasting that this number will reach 1.1 million by the end of the year.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:48
https://kyivindependent.c(...)orating-survey-says/
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Polish attitudes toward Ukrainian refugees deteriorating, survey shows
In more than two years of the full-scale war, Poles approach Ukrainian refugees more negatively in almost all measured aspects, except for accepting Ukrainian children to schools, according to a survey by the University of Warsaw and the University of Economics and Humanities in Warsaw published by Rzeczpospolita on June 18.

Around 4.2 million Ukrainian refugees reside in the EU under temporary protection status, of which almost 1 million took shelter in Poland.

Poles welcomed the refugees after the outbreak of the full-scale war, and Warsaw has recently extended their legal stay in the country along with various support programs.

According to the survey, the social benefits for Ukrainian refugees have always been the most problematic aspect, as the vast majority of Poles (95%) believe that they should be reduced.

Only 17% of Poles would accept Ukrainian refugees with the possibility of a long-term settlement, a decrease from 37% more than a year ago. Some 61% of the respondents want Ukrainians to return to their home country after the war.

"Such results are not surprising, they are the result of discrepancies in the perception of foreigners after a longer period of their stay in the country," Jan Brzozowski, head of the Jagiellonian Center for Migration Studies at the Jagiellonian University in Cracow, told Rzeczpospolita.
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The only aspect where the attitudes remain positive is the education for Ukrainian children. Some 82% of Poles support providing education to Ukrainian children, but there is little support for teaching them based on a Ukrainian core curriculum.

Half the respondents said the children should be taught the Polish core curriculum, while 40% support a compromise between a Polish and Ukrainian education.

Around 72% of the respondents said that despite Ukraine's war with Russia, Poland should take care primarily of its own interests, namely when it comes to food trade. Only 15% hold the opposite views.

Disputes over trade, namely Ukrainian agricultural imports, have soured the relationship between Kyiv and Warsaw since 2023, leading to intermittent border blockades by Polish protesters.

Around 31% of Poles believe that Poland must definitely help Ukraine (a decrease from 62% in January 2023), while 43% "rather agree." Some 19% oppose the assistance to Ukraine, the survey shows.

There is still strong support (62%) for helping Ukraine materially, like by donating food and clothing, but even here, the numbers have been decreasing compared to previous surveys.

Such trends are not new to Poland, nor are they limited to this country. Surveys in other states that have accepted Ukrainian refugees show a similar decline in solidarity, though the overall support remains quite strong.

Russian propaganda has sought to capitalize on skepticism toward refugees in the host countries and demonize the Ukrainians, seeking to drive a wedge between local populations and the governments, the Ukraine Crisis Media Center said.
Krijgen ze toch hun zin afgaande op bovenstaande artikel. Hun sociale voorzieningen worden weggenomen/gekort.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:53
https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/20/7188512/
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What changes has Poland prepared for Ukrainian refugees and draft dodgers?
Poland is to change the rules governing the stay of Ukrainian asylum seekers next month.

Read more to understand what changes Ukrainians living in Poland should be prepared for in an article by Yurii Panchenko, a European Pravda editor, who spoke with Maciej Duszczyk, Deputy Secretary of State of the Ministry of Interior and Administration of Poland. Professor Duszczyk used to be a researcher at the Migration Research Center at the University of Warsaw before.

We couldn't avoid discussing Warsaw's position on returning draft dodgers and the situation on the Polish-Ukrainian border, as well as the possibility of a new blockade.

Answers to these questions can be found in the article – New Requirements for Ukrainians and the issue of draft dodgers: Polish government official on Warsaw's migration policy.

The law, which will come into effect on 1 July, focuses of the extension of the legal stay of Ukrainian refugees in Poland until 30 September 2025.

European Pravda reminds you that Ukrainians who fled the war to the EU are not officially "refugees" because the EU's temporary protection mechanism provides a different legal status. However, this term has become commonly used in Europe regarding Ukrainians.
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Most likely, from 1 January 2025, Ukrainians will be able to change the status from temporary protection to temporary residence.

The temporary residence status will be valid for three years, allowing these individuals to make a final decision – whether they want to return home or stay in Poland.

Another significant change is that from 1 September, all school-age Ukrainian children in Poland must officially attend Polish schools, regardless of whether they are receiving online education in Ukraine.

The latest research shows that about 40% of Ukrainians currently in Poland intend to stay there for at least a few more years.

Regarding the deportation of draft dodgers, we are guided exclusively by European Union legislation. So we cannot create a situation where different EU countries have fundamentally different approaches to Ukrainian refugees at the request of the Ukrainian government.

For example, if we agreed to provide the Ukrainian government with information about draft-age men in Poland, these people would simply move to other EU countries with better conditions, such as Germany or Spain.

This would clearly not be in the EU's interest, as it would prefer to avoid repeated migration processes.

At the same time, we do not support those who illegally crossed the border.

Among other changes from 1 July only those who crossed the EU border legally can receive refugee status.

However, this rule does not apply to those who have arrived in Poland and received a PESEL number.

Ukrainians committing crimes in Poland are currently being deported to Ukraine. The fact that there is a war in Ukraine is not an obstacle in this case.

Regarding the issue of draft dodging, there is a problem since martial law is in effect in Ukraine, but not in Poland.

In this case, the principle is that extradition to another country requires the crime to be equally recognised in both countries.

However, this is not possible, at least not until Poland inroduces martial law.
Delenlillzondag 23 juni 2024 @ 23:58
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)y-russian-fpv-drone/
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M2 Bradley Survived Hit by Russian FPV drone
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M2 Bradley IFV of the 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade. Freeze frame from the video of the 47th Brigade

An M2 Bradley ODS SA infantry fighting vehicle of the Ukrainian 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade has survived an enemy FPV drone strike, as reported by the brigade’s press service.

“On the video, you can see how the IFV operates against enemy infantry. Already on the way back, the FPV drone hits the vehicle. As you can see, the crew did not even feel this and continued moving,” the Brigade states.

The FPV drone hit the Bradley in the front projection, but the combat vehicle did not stop and continued to move.

It is also noticeable that the combat vehicle is equipped with Bradley Reactive Armor Tiles.
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In addition, the published footage shows how the combat vehicle operates against the invaders with the M242 Bushmaster 25mm automatic cannon.

The press service of the brigade added that the U.S. Army no longer uses this Bradley variant, and thousands of such combat vehicles are stored in depots.

Militarnyi reported in March 2024, that the dynamic protection of the M2A2 Bradley ODS SA infantry fighting vehicle was able to withstand a direct hit by a Russian anti-tank missile.

The Russians fired two anti-tank missiles at the combat vehicle, one missile merely touching, hitting the reactive armor of the turret, and the other hitting the side.

47th Brigade`s Bradley IFV combat engagement
Militarnyi reported on June 7 that the crew of the M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle of the 47th Mechanized Brigade shot down an enemy armored personnel carrier with infantry at close range.

The event took place in the Pokrovsk direction, where an enemy BTR-82A with troops on board was able to break through to a settlement. The Bradley crew immediately advanced to intercept it.
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M2 Bradley and BTR-82A within meters of each other. Freeze frame from the video of the 47th Brigade

The footage shows how 25mm projectiles fired from the M242 Bushmaster gun hits the hull of the enemy APC, in particular the place where the enemy squad was located.

At one moment, Bradley and the BTR-82A narrowly avoided collision, leaving mere meters between the combat vehicles.
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 00:03
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)ant-to-live-project/
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Over 300 Russian Soldiers Surrender to Ukraine’s ‘I Want to Live’ Project
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Russian prisoners of war in the Center-3 camp. May 2024. Ukraine. A frame from the video "I Want to Live" project

More than 300 Russian soldiers have surrendered to Ukraine under the “I Want to Live” project.

Andrii Yusov, a representative of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, stated this during a telethon.

“The number of people willing to surrender has increased. Within the framework of this project alone, more than 300 Russian invaders have already surrendered to Ukrainian captivity,” Yusov detailed.

It is reported that some of them immediately expressed a desire not to be exchanged or even to join the Defense Forces of Ukraine.
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Russian prisoners of war in the Center-3 camp. May 2024. Ukraine. A frame from the video “I Want to Live” project

The “I Want to Live” project was launched in September 2022. Its goal is to help willing Russian servicemen safely surrender to Ukrainian captivity and save their lives.

In case of surrender, the project guarantees detention in accordance with the Geneva Conventions.

In addition, such Russians are also guaranteed that they will not be exchanged or returned to the Russian Federation if they wish.

If a Russian registers with “I Want to Live” in advance, the Ukrainian side registers him as having been captured in combat, meaning that he receives payments and status in Russia.

In late April 2024, Militarnyi reported that a third camp for holding Russian prisoners of war, Center-3, had been opened in Ukraine.

The new camp was opened due to the large number of Russians who surrendered.
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Russian prisoners of war in a camp in Ukraine. August 2023. Ukraine. Photo credits: Dmytro Gordon

In Center-3, Russian army personnel have facilities for work, sports, and leisure activities. The center also includes designated areas for cooking, resting, and interacting with psychologists.

Ukraine regularly grants access to its main prisoner of war camp to the Red Cross, the UN, and international journalists.
QAnonnmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 00:19
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En jij geloofd de Russische ambassade wel op zijn woord? Terwijl daarvan al keer op keer bewezen is dat ze propaganda en leugens verspreiden? Lol.

Even een voorbeeld:
https://nz.news.yahoo.com(...)-sent-193411368.html
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Maarja die leugens passen natuurlijk direct in je straatje. Want Rusland goed, westen slecht.
Maar om nou de 1e de beste twitteraar te geloven gaat ook wat ver.
ohengmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 00:21
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Belangrijk, want westerse glide munitie op russisch grondgebied...
Cilantromaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 02:28
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BlaZmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 02:52
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Dat stond 6 dagen terug al op deepstate en gaat slechts om 2km2
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 03:16
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Dat stond 6 dagen terug al op deepstate en gaat slechts om 2km2
Hij focust op n onderwerp in elk filmpje en gaat daar dieper op in, in dit filmpje dus op de succesvolle aanval op dat stuk bos. Hij voegt er tevens een hoop achtergrondinformatie en zo bij.

Ook is het zo ongeveer het enig stuk grondgebied in de laatste tijd die weer onder beheer van Oekrane is gekomen. De rest gaat allemaal om verschuivingen in het niemandsland/betwist gebied

Dat dat stukje bos van Oekrane was geworden was al algemeen bekend. Dat was hier al eerder voorbij gekomen.

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Eyjafjallajoekullmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 03:45
Weer flinke explosies op de Krim, maar weinig info nog.

edit: ah sorry dit is ouder nieuws al.
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 07:11
https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)its_a_concentration/
Ukrainian cluster munition hits a concentration of Russian troops in Zaporizhzhia Oblast. A casualty is observed being carried away afterwards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)sian_vehicle_across/
Ukrainian FPV drone hits a Russian vehicle across the border in Belgorod Oblast, Russia, but fails to explode. Filmed by the dashcam in the vehicle.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)rced_to_stay_in_the/
Wounded russian mobiks are forced to stay in the "pit" in very poor conditions until they agree to go into their last meat assault. This is because Russia does not have enough manpower so they "reuse" the wounded soldiers and refuse to demobilize them.
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This video comes from Z blogger and VDV fighter "Thirteenth". He had rage post on his telegram channel:

Everything that the Kremlin media tells you from TV is complete bullshit.

This is the true attitude towards soldiers from the command.

They keep everyone like cattle, the wounded, the untreated, the mobiks, whoever for what, for example, for telling some major Kovalev to fuck off, for example, or for something else, and they drive them away and make “wounded” regiments out of them, and do you know why? Yes, because there are NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE! ALE!

ANNOUNCE MOBILIZATION! LET GO HOME THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR YOU FOR TWO FUCKING YEARS, BITCHES.

Putin is simply afraid to announce mobilization, so that the people will not know for sure what you are really doing there.

This is a natural PURGATORY!

PUT YOUR FUCKING CHILDREN THERE!

The coordinates of this place, all the information was passed on to the military prosecutor and department employees who will turn those responsible for this nonsense inside out.

And this is not all, so you understand.
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 07:12
polderturkmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 08:13
Als het nu overal in Rusland begint te rommelen, dan zou Rusland weleens uit elkaar kunnen vallen.
sp3cmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 08:24
rommelt al langer, als het er op aankomt stampen ze de boel gewoon plat
AchJamaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 08:39
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7s.gif Op zondag 23 juni 2024 22:58 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Jammer dat er alleen resten van een door een Tor gelanceerde raket gevonden zijn he, troll.

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Lijkt me idd geen ATACMS, maar op basis van die paar fragmenten die je op de foto ziet kan dit echt van alles zijn.

Maar goed, je schiet natuurlijk ook niet voor de lol een luverd missile de lucht in.

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Chadimaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 09:48
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Werk je dan achter de lopende band ofzo? Daar heb je kans op want minder snuggere Oostblokkers.. Al is het gros gewoon zeer vriendelijk kan ik je uit eigen ervaring vertellen.

Daarnaast de afgelopen jaren veel gewerkt met Oostblokkers waaronder n gast uit Oekrane en dat beeld wat jij en anderen over Oostblokkers schept klopt totaal niet. Die willen n ding en dat is een stabiel land en een einde aan de grootschalige corruptie
Dat kan best hoor. Want ik zie een bepaalde groep. De meest kwetsbare groepen. Maar ze zijn het nu wel zat hoor. Weten totaal niet waar ze aan toe zijn en hoe lang nog en wat dan? enzovoorts. Zelfs gevlucht is hun hele leven onzeker.
StateOfMindmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 10:23
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88s.gif Op maandag 24 juni 2024 08:24 schreef sp3c het volgende:
rommelt al langer, als het er op aankomt stampen ze de boel gewoon plat
Voor 50 cent *O*
ohengmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 10:25
Gisteren was de 1 jarige verjaardag van Pringel's mars naar Moskou.
Cilantromaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 10:57
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Glazenmakermaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 11:02
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0s.gif Op maandag 24 juni 2024 08:13 schreef polderturk het volgende:
Als het nu overal in Rusland begint te rommelen, dan zou Rusland weleens uit elkaar kunnen vallen.
Deze aanslag had in ieder willekeurig Europees land ook kunnen gebeuren en mass shootings zijn dagelijkse kost in de VS. We moeten een beetje waken voor incidenten groter maken dan ze zijn.
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 11:33
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Deze aanslag had in ieder willekeurig Europees land ook kunnen gebeuren en mass shootings zijn dagelijkse kost in de VS. We moeten een beetje waken voor incidenten groter maken dan ze zijn.
Niet mee oneens.

Maar rus heeft de added bonus dat veiligheidsdiensten verzwakt zijn. Reguliere politieagenten die bv ontslag nemen omdat ze het zat zijn om echte misdaden te moeten laten schieten omdat ze voorrang moeten geven aan mensen die kritiek hebben op de oorlog, bv. Zoiets als de FSB wat z'n handen vol heeft aan vermeende coups tegen de haatdwerg voorkomen, en als gevolg daarvan net als die aanslag in die crocus hal signalen van andere dingen maar negeren.

En als het dan echt zwaar poep ventilator wordt, zoals met prigozjin, geen leger meer hebben om in te grijpen.
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 11:36
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Dat kan best hoor. Want ik zie een bepaalde groep. De meest kwetsbare groepen. Maar ze zijn het nu wel zat hoor. Weten totaal niet waar ze aan toe zijn en hoe lang nog en wat dan? enzovoorts. Zelfs gevlucht is hun hele leven onzeker.
Dat weet helemaal niemand. Wat echter iedereen weet is dat de oorlog vandaag nog voorbij kan zijn wanneer de Russen hun troepen uit Oekrane terugtrekken.
over_hedgemaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 11:40
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Pff ze hebben wel pech hoor die russen. Weer vallen de wrak stukken precies op het doelwit :(
Chadimaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 11:47
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Dat weet helemaal niemand. Wat echter iedereen weet is dat de oorlog vandaag nog voorbij kan zijn wanneer de Russen hun troepen uit Oekrane terugtrekken.
Wat levert hen dat op in die onzekerheid? Kunnen zij daar wat mee?
De discussie die nu op gang moet komen is gezien we niet weten wanneer de oorlog stopt of het niet handig is om Oekrainers zekerheid te geven in de vorm van een verblijfstatus die wat meer garanties geeft om een leven hier op te bouwen
BEFEMmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:07
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Wat levert hen dat op in die onzekerheid? Kunnen zij daar wat mee?
De discussie die nu op gang moet komen is gezien we niet weten wanneer de oorlog stopt of het niet handig is om Oekrainers zekerheid te geven in de vorm van een verblijfstatus die wat meer garanties geeft om een leven hier op te bouwen
Dit geldt letterlijk voor elk conflict.
bleibleimaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:22
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0s.gif Op maandag 24 juni 2024 11:47 schreef Chadi het volgende:

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Wat levert hen dat op in die onzekerheid? Kunnen zij daar wat mee?
De discussie die nu op gang moet komen is gezien we niet weten wanneer de oorlog stopt of het niet handig is om Oekrainers zekerheid te geven in de vorm van een verblijfstatus die wat meer garanties geeft om een leven hier op te bouwen
Heb je die mensen al eens gevraagd wat ze liever hebben? De zekerheid van in Oekrane leven als provincie van Rusland of de onzekerheid van nu?

Dat mensen klaar zijn met de oorlog is aardig obvious. Dat waren de meesten al binnen 24uur. Maar of ze de consequentie aanvaarden... Durf ik wel hardop in twijfel te trekken.
Aethermaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:23
Kremlin says Russia has started updating its nuclear doctrine
https://www.timesofisrael(...)ts-nuclear-doctrine/

Russia, the world’s biggest nuclear power, has started updating its nuclear doctrine, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says, citing an earlier statement by President Vladimir Putin.

“President Putin has said that work is under way to bring the doctrine into line with current realities,” Peskov tells a briefing, without elaborating.

A senior member of the Russian parliament said on Sunday that Moscow could reduce the decision-making time stipulated in official policy for the use of nuclear weapons if it believes that threats are increasing.

Putin said last month that Russia might change its official nuclear doctrine setting out the conditions under which such weapons could be used.

The war in Ukraine has triggered the biggest confrontation between Russia and the West since the 1962 Cuban missile crisis.
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:23
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Heb je die mensen al eens gevraagd wat ze liever hebben? De zekerheid van in Oekrane leven als provincie van Rusland of de onzekerheid van nu?

Dat mensen klaar zijn met de oorlog is aardig obvious. Dat waren de meesten al binnen 24uur. Maar of ze de consequentie aanvaarden... Durf ik wel hardop in twijfel te trekken.
Die mensen zekerheid geven mbt hun verblijf hier, of juist niet, is wat anders dan zeggen dat oekraine zich maar over moet geven ;)
Hatseflats22maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:29
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7s.gif Op maandag 24 juni 2024 12:23 schreef Aether het volgende:
Kremlin says Russia has started updating its nuclear doctrine
https://www.timesofisrael(...)ts-nuclear-doctrine/

Russia, the world’s biggest nuclear power, has started updating its nuclear doctrine, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov says, citing an earlier statement by President Vladimir Putin.

“President Putin has said that work is under way to bring the doctrine into line with current realities,” Peskov tells a briefing, without elaborating.

A senior member of the Russian parliament said on Sunday that Moscow could reduce the decision-making time stipulated in official policy for the use of nuclear weapons if it believes that threats are increasing.

Putin said last month that Russia might change its official nuclear doctrine setting out the conditions under which such weapons could be used.

The war in Ukraine has triggered the biggest confrontation between Russia and the West since the 1962 Cuban missile crisis.
Is er eigenlijk bewijs dat dit ook echt gebeurt?

Volgens mij is enkel propaganda.
Aethermaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:33
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Is er eigenlijk bewijs dat dit ook echt gebeurt?

Volgens mij is enkel propaganda.
Ja, dat lijkt me ook.
Qua scenario is er niets veranderd sinds de oorlog met Oekrane.
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:35
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Is er eigenlijk bewijs dat dit ook echt gebeurt?

Volgens mij is enkel propaganda.
Ow, vast wel. Nucleaire doctrine is niks anders dan het papiertje waarop staat onder welke omstandigheden je ze gebruikt.

Maar als ze die ineens veranderen naar: als putin z'n petje er naar staat - veranderd dat niks aan de realiteit van die dingen gebruiken.

Leuk voor een niet nader te noemen bepaalde poster hier.

Die kan weer deze pakken:

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Chadimaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 12:36
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Heb je die mensen al eens gevraagd wat ze liever hebben? De zekerheid van in Oekrane leven als provincie van Rusland of de onzekerheid van nu?

Dat mensen klaar zijn met de oorlog is aardig obvious. Dat waren de meesten al binnen 24uur. Maar of ze de consequentie aanvaarden... Durf ik wel hardop in twijfel te trekken.
Het is meer wat willen wij. Niet wat zij willen want wat zij willen legt in het verlengde welke opties ze hebben. Als ze voor altijd mogen blijven dan blijven ze in de meeste gevallen gewoon hier. Bouwen een leven op wat op het onze lijkt en draaien dan gewoon mee in de maatschappij. Nu zitten ze in een situatie waarin ze nergens een plek hebben die echt zekerheid biedt.
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Het is meer wat willen wij. Niet wat zij willen want wat zij willen legt in het verlengde welke opties ze hebben. Als ze voor altijd mogen blijven dan blijven ze in de meeste gevallen gewoon hier. Bouwen een leven op wat op het onze lijkt en draaien dan gewoon mee in de maatschappij. Nu zitten ze in een situatie waarin ze nergens een plek hebben die echt zekerheid biedt.
Dat is geen antwoord op de vraag.
Wel een hoop aannames.

Jij hebt hier geroepen dat ze willen dat het daar ophoudt en dat de US de schuld is van alles. Wat hierboven staat is heel wat anders en heeft meer te maken met hun situatie hier dan met de oorlog daar en al helemaal niets met de rol van de US hierin.
speknekmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:11
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Wat is hier de militaire significantie van? Of is die maar klein?
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Lijkt toch wel iets belangrijks te zijn als ze er 8 dure ATACMS aan spenderen.

Het gerucht gaat dat de NIP-16 radarinstallatie belangrijk is voor de Russische GPS, en dat het de glide bombs een stuk minder precies maakt.
capriciamaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:13
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Wat is hier de militaire significantie van? Of is die maar klein?
Volgens mij proberen ze zoveel grote radar systemen uit te schakelen, met het oog op de F16's die binnenkort ingezet gaan worden.
over_hedgemaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:30
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glide bombs een stuk minder precies maakt.
Nog minder
BEFEMmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:35
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Lijkt toch wel iets belangrijks te zijn als ze er 8 dure ATACMS aan spenderen.

Het gerucht gaat dat de NIP-16 radarinstallatie belangrijk is voor de Russische GPS, en dat het de glide bombs een stuk minder precies maakt.
Dan vraag ik me af waarom ze die dan niet eerder raakten? Mocht dit waar zijn is dit heel belangrijk.
icecreamfarmer_NLmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:43
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Lijkt toch wel iets belangrijks te zijn als ze er 8 dure ATACMS aan spenderen.

Het gerucht gaat dat de NIP-16 radarinstallatie belangrijk is voor de Russische GPS, en dat het de glide bombs een stuk minder precies maakt.
Ik mag toch hopen dat ze voor GLONASS meerdere grondstations hebben om een sync uit te voeren.
BEFEMmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:44
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Ik mag toch hopen dat ze voor GLONASS meerdere grondstations hebben om een sync uit te voeren.
Ja en al helemaal omdat ze deze gepikt hebben van Oekrane. Ze zullen zelf vast ook wel wat hebben :D
Discombobulatemaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 13:54
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Ik mag toch hopen dat ze voor GLONASS meerdere grondstations hebben om een sync uit te voeren.
Een hele boel als je op wiki kijkt.
ohengmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 14:51
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Lijkt toch wel iets belangrijks te zijn als ze er 8 dure ATACMS aan spenderen.

Het gerucht gaat dat de NIP-16 radarinstallatie belangrijk is voor de Russische GPS, en dat het de glide bombs een stuk minder precies maakt.
Glonass:
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Die radar station op de Krim was volgens mij voor "ruimte communicatie". Bijvoorbeeld voor hun maanlander of andere projecten dieper in de ruimte.
Perrinmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 14:54
Tijd voor een rookverbod.
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ohengmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 14:58
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Tijd voor een rookverbod.
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Een nieuwe dag, een nieuwe ramp voor rusland. :7
skysherrifmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:05
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Tijd voor een rookverbod.
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Holy shit, zie net de laatset beelden. 9/11 taferelen. Meerdere mensen die al bijna levend verbrand nog uit het raam springen.
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ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:32
Nou ben ik echt de allerlaatste die medelijden met de orcs zal hebben, maar Epic footage is ook wel weer :')
PzKpfwmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:33
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Tijd voor een rookverbod.
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En wij maar met kartonnen rietjes drinken :')
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:35
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En wij maar met kartonnen rietjes drinken :')
Moet ik soms een tranentrekkend filmpje van een zeehond die een plastic rietje in z'n neus heeft posten? :{w :(
RamboDirkmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:40
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Epic footage :') wtf, doe normaal.
skysherrifmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:43
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Nou ben ik echt de allerlaatste die medelijden met de orcs zal hebben, maar Epic footage is ook wel weer :')
Ja die psstyle1 doet dat wel vaker, ahd laatst ook een film van een aanrijding waar een dronken rus 5 schoolmeisjes ofzo omver reed en daarom ging juichen dat slaat nergens op.

In dit geavl moet ik wel zegge nis dat dit instituut kritieke materialen levert voor alle fighter jets die rusland heeft en s300/400/500 systemen. Dus objectief prima dat dat niet meer gebeurd. Maar epic footage is sowieso een zeer kinderachtige benaming.
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:56
Tja, pecunia non olet.

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Straatcommando.maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 16:58
Het is sowieso niet echt gezond als je verlekkerd naar beelden van stervende/fikkende mensen kijkt.
Papierversnipperaarmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 17:09
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Het is sowieso niet echt gezond als je verlekkerd naar beelden van stervende/fikkende mensen kijkt.
Tja, van oorlog krijg je trauma's.
Szuramaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 17:56
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Het is sowieso niet echt gezond als je verlekkerd naar beelden van stervende/fikkende mensen kijkt.
Het zijn geen mensen, het zijn Russen die in de oorlogsindustrie werken
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 17:56
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Nou ben ik echt de allerlaatste die medelijden met de orcs zal hebben, maar Epic footage is ook wel weer :')
Hoogopgeleide Russen die hun kennis en intelligentie aanwenden om wapensystemen te ontwikkelen waarmee hun buurvolkeren onderworpen en uitgeroeid kunnen worden, ik kan er geen medelijden mee hebben wanneer die hun welverdiende dood tegemoet storten.

Dit zijn de mensen die het regime om zouden moeten laten kiepen ipv het in staat te stellen dergelijke vernietigingsoorlogen tegen zijn buurvolkeren te voeren.
Straatcommando.maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 18:03
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Het zijn geen mensen, het zijn Russen die in de oorlogsindustrie werken
Oke, het is niet gezond om verlekkerd naar stervende of fikkende russen uit de oorlogsindustrie te kijken.

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QAnonnmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 18:13
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Het zijn geen mensen, het zijn Russen die in de oorlogsindustrie werken
Dehumaniseren van bevolkingsgroepen is in de geschiedenis nooit goed afgelopen.
Szuramaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 18:21
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Dehumaniseren van bevolkingsgroepen is in de geschiedenis nooit goed afgelopen.
Vertel dat ff tegen je vriend in het Kremlin
polderturkmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 18:28
Rus naait zijn kameraad om zelf in leven te blijven.

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spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 18:35
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Dehumaniseren van bevolkingsgroepen is in de geschiedenis nooit goed afgelopen.
Dehumanisatie van Japanners heeft er voor gezorgd dat de Amerikanen in staat waren het Japanse keizerrijk op de knien te brengen.
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Vertel dat ff tegen je vriend in het Kremlin
Ik zal het doorgeven aan hem.
Ulxmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 18:52
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Oke, het is niet gezond om verlekkerd naar stervende of fikkende tussen uit de oorlogsindustrie te kijken.
Ach, misschien sterft er n Oekraner minder door. Goede ruil.
Straatcommando.maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:00
Er is een verschil tussen geen medelijden hebben en actief genieten van iemands leed..
Straatcommando.maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:02
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Dehumanisatie van Japanners heeft er voor gezorgd dat de Amerikanen in staat waren het Japanse keizerrijk op de knien te brengen.
Het heeft er ook voor gezorgd dat zelfs Amerikanen concentratiekampen hebben opgezet. Geen goed voorbeeld.
Hatseflats22maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:02
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Ik begrijp dat jij een patent op de waarheid hebt
Als je zo tegen censuur bent, wat vind je eigenlijk dan van het doodschieten en arresteren van journalisten in Rusland?
AchJamaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:04
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Dehumanisatie van Japanners heeft er voor gezorgd dat de Amerikanen in staat waren het Japanse keizerrijk op de knien te brengen.
Know Your Enemy.

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Er is een verschil tussen geen medelijden hebben en actief genieten van iemands leed..
Dit dus.
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:17
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Het heeft er ook voor gezorgd dat zelfs Amerikanen concentratiekampen hebben opgezet. Geen goed voorbeeld.
Dat waren interneringskampen en zeker geen vernietigingskampen zoals we die van de Nazi's kennen.
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:23
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Er is een verschil tussen geen medelijden hebben en actief genieten van iemands leed..
Ik heb niet de indruk dat er iemand van "geniet", de meesten beseffen echter dat de mensen die uit die ramen springen veel directer verbonden zijn met het regime dan de arme stumperds uit de deelrepublieken die door het herrenvolk uit Moskou en Sint Petersburg de Oekraense gehaktmolen in gestuurd worden. Als er, naast bijv. Doegin's dochter, over "terechte" Russische doden gesproken kan worden dan zijn het deze mensen wel.
StateOfMindmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:43
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Ik heb niet de indruk dat er iemand van "geniet", de meesten beseffen echter dat de mensen die uit die ramen springen veel directer verbonden zijn met het regime dan de arme stumperds uit de deelrepublieken die door het herrenvolk uit Moskou en Sint Petersburg de Oekraense gehaktmolen in gestuurd worden. Als er, naast bijv. Doegin's dochter, over "terechte" Russische doden gesproken kan worden dan zijn het deze mensen wel.
Tegelijkertijd, de gewone militair aan het front (of die er nu vrijwillig zitten, voor het geld, of gedwongen) zit daar wel om Oekranse militairen te doden, die slechts hun land verdedigen.

Dus elke dode Ruz is er sowieso eentje minder die een Oekraner kan doden.

Derhalve geen medelijden mee.
BlaZmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:46
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Dat waren interneringskampen en zeker geen vernietigingskampen zoals we die van de Nazi's kennen.
Het grote verschil was het ontbreken van de technologie om mensen industrieel te kunnen doden.

Hier, Lizzie van Zyl, in een Brits concentratiekamp, en dan kregen de zwarten in concentratiekamp nog eens 50% minder rantsoenen.
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spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:49
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Het grote verschil was het ontbreken van de technologie om mensen industrieel te kunnen doden.

Hier, Lizzie van Zyl, in een Brits concentratiekamp, en dan kregen de zwarten in concentratiekamp nog eens 50% minder rantsoenen.
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Deze foto stamt uit de boerenoorlog en heeft derhalve niets met WO II en de Amerikaanse interneringskampen voor Japanners te maken.
BlaZmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:51
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Deze foto stamt uit de boerenoorlog en heeft derhalve niets met WO II en de Amerikaanse interneringskampen voor Japanners te maken.
Staat toch ook bij dat het een Brits kamp gaat, het gaat er meer om dat het Duitse idee van kampen niks nieuws was. Dergelijke foto's zijn er ook vast van Amerikaanse kampen in de Filipijnse oorlog.

Het grote verschil is de industrile schaal waarop de Duitsers te werk gingen.
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 19:55
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Staat toch ook bij dat het een Brits kamp gaat, het gaat er meer om dat het Duitse idee van kampen niks nieuws was. Dergelijke foto's zijn er ook vast van Amerikaanse kampen in de Filipijnse oorlog.

Het grote verschil is de industrile schaal waarop de Duitsers te werk gingen.
Die Amerikaanse interneringskampen voor Japanners waren niet "naar Duits voorbeeld".

Nee, het grote verschil is dat het bij de Nazi's om vernietigingskampen ging met als doel een bepaalde bevolkingsgroep uit te roeien.
BlaZmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 20:03
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Die Amerikaanse interneringskampen voor Japanners waren niet "naar Duits voorbeeld".

Nee, het grote verschil is dat het bij de Nazi's om vernietigingskampen ging met als doel een bepaalde bevolkingsgroep uit te roeien.
Ja, de Amerikaanse interneringskampen voor Japanners waren niet naar Duits voorbeeld. Die waren naar eigen voorbeeld, de Amerikanen hadden immers voldoende ervaring met interneringskampen ruim voor die periode. Het probleem is wel of we nog kunnen spreken over interneringskampen als 50% van de genterneerden sterft van de honger.
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 20:15
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To soon?

Nah.
BlaZmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 20:15
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Uit het raam gevallen?
TLCmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 20:18
Ik zag ook die vallende russen en ik keek ff op mijn schaal van medeleven ; het stond op 0.
Papierversnipperaarmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 20:57
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Dehumaniseren van bevolkingsgroepen is in de geschiedenis nooit goed afgelopen.
Is vast onderdeel van oorlog. Je creert een vijandbeeld, Putin noemt Ukriane een broeinest van Nazi's zodat ze zonder wroeging afgeslacht kunnen worden.
ohengmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 20:58
De russen zelf geven er ook 0,0 om als er een half miljoen landgenoten omkomen/zwaar gewond raken. En dan nog de tientallen miljoenen in de vorige eeuw.

Dus waarom zouden wij dat dan wel doen? Het leven van een rus is vrijwel waardeloos.
Hatseflats22maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 21:01
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De russen zelf geven er ook 0,0 om als er een half miljoen landgenoten omkomen/zwaar gewond raken. En dan nog de tientallen miljoenen in de vorige eeuw.

Dus waarom zouden wij dat dan wel doen? Het leven van een rus is vrijwel waardeloos.
Russen stellen wat mij betreft niet de norm over hoe ik over het leven van een mens denk, dus ook niet als het van een Rus is.
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 21:09
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De russen zelf geven er ook 0,0 om als er een half miljoen landgenoten omkomen/zwaar gewond raken. En dan nog de tientallen miljoenen in de vorige eeuw.

Dus waarom zouden wij dat dan wel doen? Het leven van een rus is vrijwel waardeloos.
Hoop van ons hebben iets gemeen met putin.

We geven ook geen reet om rus levens.
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 21:41
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Russen stellen wat mij betreft niet de norm over hoe ik over het leven van een mens denk, dus ook niet als het van een Rus is.
Russen zien zichzelf als wegwerpmensen die geen enkele waarde vertegenwoordigen, dus waarom zouden wij hen anders moeten zien?
polderturkmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 21:56
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Straatcommando.maandag 24 juni 2024 @ 21:57
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Russen zien zichzelf als wegwerpmensen die geen enkele waarde vertegenwoordigen, dus waarom zouden wij hen anders moeten zien?
Daar is niet veel mis mee en prima te begrijpen
spicymchaggismaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 22:04
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Daar is niet veel mis mee en prima te begrijpen
Beter zagen de Russen zichzelf als te waardevol om door al die dictaturen en totalitaire regimes, die het land al eeuwenlang in hun greep houden, als wegwerpartikelen en horigen gebruikt te worden.
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ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 22:58
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Het zou aan de andere kant wel grappig zijn. Kan de VS weer 'een boze brief' naar het kremlin sturen.
Discombobulatemaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 23:08
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Nou ja, daar kun je wel van uitgaan.
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 23:19
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Ukraine's Sea Baby drones hit four Russian ships using remote mining – WSJ
According to journalists, the specialized team tracked the routes of naval ships and civilian traffic for a month and a half before deploying Sea Baby drones

Thanks to the underwater mines planted by the Sea Baby drones near the waters of the Crimean Peninsula, the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) hit at least four Russian ships, according to The Wall Street Journal.

The publication states that after the initial use of sea drones by Ukraine, the Russians built larger barriers at the entrance to the port of Sevastopol, making drone strikes almost impossible.

The team of the head of the SBU Vasyl Malyuk then came up with an alternative: laying sea mines, the journalists noted.

This was done using bottom mines, made of plastic and weighing about 180 kg. They are hard to detect as they sink into the silt in shallow waters.
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Malyuk's specialized team spent a month and a half tracking the routes of naval ships and civilian traffic before sending Sea Baby drones to plant two mines.

On September 14, the Samum missile corvette hit one of the mines, which punched a hole in its stern. The vessel is still under repair in dry dock.

The publication noted that in the following weeks, Sea Baby drones traveled more than 4,800 kilometers and laid about 15 more mines.

During one of the missions, detected by three Raptor-class patrol boats, the drone opened fire with a grenade launcher, hitting an enemy vessel, according to SBU Brigadier General Ivan Lukashevych, known by the call sign Hunter.

On October 11, the large patrol boat Pavel Derzhavin hit a mine while entering Sevastopol Bay for maintenance. On October 13, the boat was redirected to another port for repairs but encountered another mine while leaving Sevastopol Bay.

Journalists say that a large tugboat sent for its rescue also hit a mine and had to be towed back to port.

The WSJ noted that a few days later, an explosion also damaged the modern minesweeper Vladimir Kozitsky, one of only two in Russian service.

This was the world's first example of successful remote mining, according to journalists.

"Before, naval drones were used mostly for surveillance or logistics. We (SBU – ed.) are doing many things that no one else in the world has done before," a source told the publication.
De eerste keer dat ik hoor dat Oekrane zijn Sea Baby drones ook gebruikt heeft voor het plaatsen van zeemijnen en daarmee verschillende Russische boten heeft beschadigd.

Er waren al geruchten dat deze door een sea drone was geraakt, nu blijkt het dus waarschijnlijk door een zeemijn te zijn gebeurd.
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Samum missile corvette

Ook van deze was bekend dat hij beschadigd was, maar de omstandigheden waaronder dit gebeurd was was ook niet bekend, ook een zeemijn dus.
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large patrol boat Pavel Derzhavin
ExTecmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 23:20
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Nou ja, daar kun je wel van uitgaan.
Nee, ding is niet neergehaald en nee, die dingen hebben geen bal met ATACMS te maken. Dingen doen sigint, radio signalen afluisteren.

Wel weer erg on-brand van je.
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Nee, ding is niet neergehaald en nee, die dingen hebben geen bal met ATACMS te maken. Dingen doen sigint, radio signalen afluisteren.

Wel weer erg on-brand van je.
Oekrane kan dat totaal niet zelf, die krijgen hulp van de VS bij hun doelen. Reken maar dat zo'n ding van enige betekenis kan zijn en dat het ook gebeurd. Daar kun je echt gif op innemen.
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 23:28
https://news.liga.net/en/(...)d-to-ukraine-borrell
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Hungary rejects EU proposal to not block aid to Ukraine – Borrell
The head of EU diplomacy stated that Hungary was offered a deal: the country could opt out of aid but would waive its veto on joint decisions

The European Union proposed a deal to Hungary, allowing the country to opt out of aiding Ukraine while not blocking decisions by other allies, but Budapest rejected this offer, said Josep Borrell, the head of EU diplomacy, to the Financial Times.

He mentioned that the EU offered Hungary a deal similar to the one NATO made with the country's Prime Minister Viktor Orban last week: giving Budapest the option to refrain from activities supporting Ukraine in exchange for not vetoing other allies' aid to Kyiv.

However, according to the top diplomat, Hungary refused a similar proposal from the EU.

"We have offered Hungary: your money will not be used to support Ukraine in any means. Not just lethal, but on anything. Take your money. Put your money out of the box. I don’t want to use your money," Borrell explained about the canceled idea.

According to the official, Budapest's position "has something to do with the strong links that they have with Russia."

A spokesperson for the Hungarian government declined to comment to the FT.
https://news.liga.net/en/(...)ssias-war-in-ukraine
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Hungary names priorities of its European Union presidency: Not a word about Russia's war in Ukraine
In general, Budapest plans to strengthen the European integration of the Western Balkans during its presidency, which is one of its main goals

In the priorities included in the program of the presidency of Hungary in the European Union, there is not a single word about the Russo-Ukrainian war and support for Kyiv, DW journalists write.

Hungary's representative to the EU, Blint dor, said that Budapest will closely monitor the development of events in Ukraine and "will include all necessary aspects in the agenda as needed." This concerns what line should be expected regarding Russia, which is waging an aggressive war against Ukraine, as well as the sphere of aid to Kyiv.
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In general, Budapest plans to strengthen the European integration of the Western Balkans during its presidency. He believes that the EU should close as many negotiating blocks as possible with candidate countries from this region within the next six months.

"We want to take advantage of the momentum, we see that we can speed up the accession process of the Western Balkan countries. We have waited too long," said dor.

The official named several other priorities of Hungary: the competitiveness of the European Union, economic relations with third countries, easing the administrative burden, defense policy and cooperation in the field of arms procurement.

Hungary will hold the presidency of the Council of the European Union from July to December 2024, succeeding Belgium. Spain currently chairs the EU Council.

On March 15, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbn called on supporters of Budapest to help him "occupy" Brussels in the European Parliament elections.
Geen verrassing natuurlijk op beide punten. Hongarije wil zijn macht niet opgeven die hij heeft in de EU wanneer het op hulp aan Oekrane aankomt. En ze moeten natuurlijk wel beste vriendjes blijven met Rusland.
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Nee, ding is niet neergehaald en nee, die dingen hebben geen bal met ATACMS te maken. Dingen doen sigint, radio signalen afluisteren.

Wel weer erg on-brand van je.
Welke "dingen" doen wat precies?
Delenlillmaandag 24 juni 2024 @ 23:49
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)r-was-hit-in-crimea/
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Russian invaders’ space communications center was hit in Crimea
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Antennas of the Center for Long Distance Space Communication near Yevpatoria in the Crimea. Photo from open sources

In the temporarily occupied Crimea, a series of explosions occurred during the night near several settlements.

Local media reports, in particular, a strike on a Russian military unit near Yevpatoria.

The Crimean Wind Telegram channel, citing video and photos from eyewitnesses, reported that a large fire had been going on at a military facility of the Russian invaders in the village of Vityno.

According to the Telegram channel, after the explosions heard by the locals, ambulances were moving towards the settlement.
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Fire on the territory of the long-range space communication center in the village of Vityno in Crimea. Night of June 24, 2024

Later, it turned out that the long-range space communication center in the village of Vityne, whose full name is the 40th separate command and measurement complex as part of the Titov Main Test and Space Systems Control Centre of the Russian Aerospace Forces (military unit #81415), was hit. This facility was seized by the Russians during the annexation of Crimea.
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Fire on the territory of the long-range space communication center in the village of Vityno in Crimea. Night of June 24, 2024. Photo credits: NASA FIRMS

NASA’s interactive satellite fire map FIRMS recorded a fire on the territory of this Russian military unit.
OSINT researchers of the CyberBoroshno Telegram channel found out that at least one Krasukha electronic warfare system was located on the territory of this facility, designed to cover command posts and other important Russian facilities.

From a military unit near Yevpatoriia, the Russians control the orbital grouping of their spacecraft. In particular, they provide the GLONASS navigation system and space monitoring.

Previously, the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack on the positions of the Russian S-400 Triumf air defense system in the temporarily occupied Crimea.

The strike took place on the night of June 11-12, and hit a position located almost 2.5 kilometers from the village of Verkhniosadove, Bakhchysarai district.
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Damaged elements of the S-400 SAM. Source: CyberBoroshno Telegram channel

Satellite images show that the 92H6 radar station, a tractor with a BAZ-6306 “Voshchyna” generator, and a 51P6 launcher were destroyed by the fire.

The weakening of Russian air defense on the temporarily occupied territory increases the chances of Ukrainian missile strikes on the invaders’ military facilities.
Iets meer informatie over de ATACMS aanval op "the 40th separate command and measurement complex as part of the Titov Main Test and Space Systems Control Centre of the Russian Aerospace Forces" (wat een mond vol). Er was mogelijk een Krasukha electronic warfare system aanwezig op het terrein, al is het niet bekend of deze geraakt is.

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On the territory of this facility, at least one "Krasukha" anti-aircraft missile complex was located, which was designed to cover command posts and other important facilities.

This is another analog-fueled snyaga. The picture shows the TTX.

The coordinates behind which the complex stood - 45.222160, 33.157350.
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Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 00:07
https://www.rferl.org/a/b(...)kraine/33004101.html
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Russia-Friendly Radev To Co-Lead Bulgaria At NATO Summit In Washington
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President Rumen Radev, who has opposed military aid to Ukraine, will represent Bulgaria at the NATO summit in Washington on July 9-11. (file photo)

Caretaker Prime Minister Dimitar Glavchev and Russia-friendly President Rumen Radev will jointly represent Bulgaria at the NATO summit in Washington next month that is likely to discuss plans for further aid to Ukraine in its fight against the Kremlin's forces.

The announcement appears to be somewhat of an awkward compromise of a dispute between Bulgaria's Council of Ministers and the presidency just ahead of the June 21 deadline for delegations to register for the July 9-11 NATO gathering.

As a parliamentary republic, Bulgaria traditionally would be represented by the head of government, the prime minister.

However, Glavchev, serving in a caretaker role, asked parliament to decide whether he or the president should go to the summit.

The parliament, led Boyko Borisov's GERB party, declined to make a decision in the dispute, leading Glavchev to announced that both will attend.
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"It was decided that the National Assembly will not take a position. Glavchev should decide for himself what he intends to do -- whether he should go, whether the president should go," said Tsoncho Ganev, deputy chairman of the parliament, according to BTA.

Radev has long taken what critics say is a Kremlin-friendly position following Russia’s February 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

He has argued that sending military aid to Kyiv only prolongs the conflict and that those supporting further aid to Ukraine are "warmongering."

Radev's attendance was supported by the pro-Russia Socialist and Revival parties.

The president's backers say Radev, as commander-in-chief of the military, should represent Bulgaria at a NATO summit, while opponents say that role is only effective during time of war.

Delyan Peevski, head of the liberal Movement for Rights and Freedoms (DPS) party, said Glavchev should represent Bulgaria to prevent Radev from pressing any pro-Russia positions at the summit.

"Radev should not be allowed to use this highest NATO forum to spread Russian propaganda and instill fear in Bulgarian society, which we have witnessed in scandalous cases," said Peevski, who has been sanctioned by the United States and Britain for alleged corruption but positions himself as a guarantor of "Bulgaria's unwavering value of belonging to Euro-Atlanticism."

Former Prime Minister Nikolay Denkov of the reformist We Continue the Change-Democratic Bulgaria coalition, also called for Glavchev to represent the country at the summit.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 00:23
https://www.rferl.org/a/t(...)kraine/33003628.html
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Kazakh Nationals Identified As Suspects In Shooting Of Kazakh Opposition Activist In Kyiv
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Kazakh oppositionist Aidos Sadyqov (file photo)

Ukraine's National Police said on June 21 that two Kazakh nationals are suspected of shooting a noted Kazakh opposition activist and journalist Aidos Sadyqov in Kyiv earlier this week.

According to a statement from the National Police, the suspected attackers are Altai Zhaqanbaev, born in 1988, and Meiram Qarataev, born in 1991. The two suspects were added to the international wanted list, with a Kyiv court issuing arrest warrants for them.

The statement added that investigators found Zhaqanbaev and Qarataev arrived in Ukraine on June 2 from Poland. They rented an apartment and bought a car in Kyiv, after which they surveyed Sadyqov's everyday routine.

"On June 18, one of the suspects approached [Sadyqov's] car and shot him, while his accomplice was near the building to act as a lookout. After that they fled the crime scene," the statement said, adding that the two suspects then left Ukrainian territory via the Ukrainian-Moldovan border.

Investigations are underway to find out who ordered the attempt on Sadyqov's life.
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Sadyqov, an outspoken critic of Kazakh President Qasym-Zhomart Toqaev and his government, is currently in intensive care fighting for his life.

His wife Natalya Sadyqova, who is also a journalist, was in the vehicle during the attack but was unharmed.

Sadyqova said in a video statement on YouTube on June 21 that one of the suspects, Qarataev, is a police officer serving in Kazakhstan's northern Qostanai region.

The Kazakh Interior Ministry issued a statement right after Sadyqova's YouTube video was published, saying that "Qarataev was dismissed from the organs attached to the ministry in January 2019 and currently is not a police officer."

Earlier on June 19, Sadyqova told RFE/RL that, hours before the attack, she and her husband had issued a new video titled Toqaev Is Putin's Puppet on their YouTube channel.

The video criticizes Toqaev's "pro-Russian politics" and looks at the activities of Russian oligarchs and agents of influence in Kazakhstan, some of whom obtained Kazakh citizenship after Russia launched its ongoing invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.

She added that Toqaev stands to be a beneficiary of the shooting "because the Kazakh opposition has been fully cleansed." She did not present any evidence that connected the president in any way to the shooting.

Toqaev's spokesman Berik Uali said on June 21 that the Kazakh president "had ordered law enforcement entities to find the two suspects' whereabouts and undertake corresponding measures."

"Kazakhstan's side is ready to cooperate with Ukraine's law enforcement structures, including via Interpol," Uali said.

The Sadyqovs, along with their children, moved to Kyiv in 2014 after Kazakh authorities launched a case against Natalya, who worked as a journalist for the independent Respublika newspaper at the time. She was accused of slander.

Sadyqov used to lead a branch of the opposition Azat Social Democratic Party in his native Aqtobe region in Kazakhstan's northwest until 2010.

He later headed a group that was a major force for establishing a union to defend the rights of Kazakh workers at the Chinese-owned CNPC-Aktobemunaygaz oil company.
Zij hebben nu twee verdachten op het oog voor de moordaanslag op de Kazachse journalist en een internationale arrestatie bevel is uitgevaardigd. Het gaat om sowieso n (ex) senior politie agent van Kazachstan. De president van Kazachstan ontkend elke betrokkenheid.

Er staan twee filmpjes in het artikel waarvan de eerste aangeeft dat n van de verdachten zichzelf heeft overgedragen aan de politie in Kazachstan en daar is gearresteerd.

Ik ben benieuwd of deze ooit uitgeleverd gaat worden aan Oekraine.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 00:33
https://www.politico.eu/a(...)ssian-frozen-assets/
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EU approves up to 1.4B military aid to Ukraine from Russian frozen assets
The money will be used for direct purchases of kit like ammunition and aerial defense systems.

EU countries today approved a first tranche of up to 1.4 billion in military aid for Ukraine coming from the proceeds of frozen Russian assets, according to four diplomats.

The money is channeled to Ukraine through the Ukraine Assistance Fund (UAF), but payments have been blocked by Hungary.

However, the Council's legal service argued that Budapest cannot stop these payments because it abstained in the vote earlier this year creating the UAF. The reason allowing the work-around is that the funds do not come from EU taxpayers, EU officials said.

The money won't be used for reimbursements, as is normally the case with the UAF, but for direct purchases of kit like ammunition and aerial defense systems. A quarter of the amount will be used for purchases from Ukrainian industries.

Countries had until 11 a.m. to voice their opinion, and none cast a negative vote, according to an internal Council message seen by POLITICO. The decision did not require unanimity, meaning Hungary could not block it.

Despite today's agreement, Hungary is continuing to block the payment of 6.6 billion under the UAF as a partial reimbursement for weapons purchased for Ukraine. According to one diplomatic, Budapest is "furious" at what happened today.

The final figure of the amount of profits from the frozen assets that will go to Kyiv is still unclear, but diplomats said it ranges between 1.2 billion and 1.4 billion.

The formal announcement is expected at a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Luxembourg on Monday.
Hongarije is in zijn hemd gezet door de UAF. Zij hebben geprobeerd om het uitbetalen van dit geld tegen te houden. Maar de UAF beargumenteerde dat Hongarije deze betaling niet tegen kan houden daar Hongarije zich onthouden heeft van het voor of tegen stemmen op de creatie van de UAF. En omdat het geld niet van EU belastingbetalers afkomstig is is unanimiteit niet nodig.

Hongarije is hier natuurlijk niet blij mee. Zij houden nog wel een andere uitbetaling van 6,6 miljard tegen door het UAF.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 00:59
https://www.thedailybeast(...)-putins-private-army
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Teenage Twins Say They Were Drugged and Raped by Putin’s Rampaging Private Army
A dozen girls have told The Daily Beast that they were kidnapped and sexually abused by Russian paramilitaries.
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BOUAR, Central African Republic—A pair of twin sisters were happy to escape a harrowing abduction when Russian paramilitaries rescued them from kidnappers who had snatched them from their home on motorbikes. Their joy was to prove short-lived.

Armed men had abducted Fatou and her twin sister, 17, from their home in the northwestern Central African Republic (CAR) market town of Bouar in September. The girls were being spirited out of town when Russian paramilitaries in a pickup caught up with them, arrested the men and rescued the girls.

“We were so relieved when we saw the white soldiers,” Fatou told The Daily Beast. “We thought we were the luckiest girls in the world.”

But that wasn’t the end of the girls’ terror.
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For three days, Fatou said, she and her sister were kept in a small, “dirty,” rat-infested room inside a military base in Bouar. As soon as they arrived, she said, Russian paramilitaries gave them injections which they said were meant to treat any injuries they had sustained. “We were surprised they were giving us injections for wounds because neither of us was injured,” Fatou said.

It wasn’t just the injections—which Fatou believes were contraceptive shots—that were sinister. Fatou also said the girls were given medicine that was intended to make them unaware of themselves and their surroundings.

“They told us we couldn’t return to our home immediately, as they needed to treat the wounds we sustained and be sure we were of sound health before letting us go,” Fatou said. “But whenever they gave us the medicine, which they usually dissolved in water, we slowly became unconscious.”

The girls usually became fully conscious of themselves hours after the drugs were administered, according to Fatou, who said she and her sister often realized their underwear had been removed and that they sometimes felt pain around their vaginas. “On the first day they gave us the medicine, my sister woke up hours later and discovered she was bleeding from her private parts.”

The girls were convinced they had been raped by the Russians. They then confronted the men, who denied the accusation but warned them never to tell anyone about what happened: “They said they’ll find us and kill us if we ever told anyone that we were raped by white soldiers,” Fatou said.

In the three years since the town was recaptured from rebels in February 2021, Russian paramilitaries have drugged, raped and administered contraceptives to hundreds of young women, according to dozens of witness accounts.

The sexual violence continued even after the restructuring of the Wagner Group’s operations in Africa following the death of its founder, Yevgeny Prigozhin, in a plane crash last August. Under the supervision of the Russian Ministry of Defense, which has now named the paramilitary structure Africa Corps, the abuse has not ended.

In many cases, the girls say they were raped after being drugged and injected with contraceptives without their consent. Some say they were forced to take the shot at gunpoint, and were given emergency contraceptive pills after being raped. The victims are mostly teenagers—some as young as 13.

This report is based on interviews with a dozen young women who say they were injected and raped by Russian paramilitaries inside an army base in Bouar, a town about 100 miles from the CAR border with Cameroon. The Daily Beast also interviewed three former rebel fighters who were later recruited by the Russians, and four soldiers from the Central African national army (FACA), including a medical officer who worked in the military base. All were aware of the incidents.

The abuse of young women in the Bouar military base has been happening on a regular basis for three years, according to witnesses. Women who were either rescued from armed male kidnappers or arrested for associating with rebel fighters were held at the base for days or weeks. The victims were often told that the injections and pills were aimed at preventing them from contracting viral diseases. Those who refused to comply were often tortured and then forcibly injected, according to two FACA personnel.
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Karmel was picked up from home by Russian paramilitaries who drugged and raped her at the Bouar military base when she was 17.

Karmel*, 19, told The Daily Beast that Russian paramilitaries arrived at her compound near a primary school in Bouar two years ago and ordered everyone to leave the premises. The Russians, she said, claimed they had received intelligence that rebels were about to attack the area. The teenager recounted how the paramilitaries then decided to take a few young girls to the Bouar military base, where they said the girls would be safer.

“When we got there, they gave us food and something that tasted like fruit juice which they served in cups for us to drink,” said Karmel, who was 17 at the time. “I fell asleep and when I woke up I was bleeding from my private parts. Someone had raped me.”

Karmel’s neighbor, Bibi*, who was one of five girls taken from their compound by the Russians, confirmed her account. “We knew we had been raped when some of us woke up with pain and blood coming out of our private parts,” Bibi, who was 15 when the incident occurred, told The Daily Beast.
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At the age of 14, Bibi was one of five girls taken out of their compound to the Bouar military base by Russian paramilitaries who raped them.

Not every girl who was taken to the military base survived, according to Karmel. She said one of the girls was shot by a Russian paramilitary after she confronted camp officials whom she accused of raping her.

“She was cursing the soldiers and threatening to expose all of them for what they did to us,” said Karmel. “Suddenly, we heard a gunshot and before we knew it our friend was dead on the floor with blood everywhere.”

The event was corroborated by Bibi and Nidal*, another teenager from the same compound who was taken with her friends to Bouar military base on the same day.

“I saw the white soldier pull out a gun and shoot her at close range,” Nidal, who was 14 at the time, told The Daily Beast. “Minutes later, two [FACA] soldiers came and took her body away.”

Russian paramilitaries were not active in the northwest of CAR until early 2021, when FACA forces and the Wagner Group began a campaign to reclaim territories in the region seized by rebels from the Coalition of Patriots for Change (CPC), an alliance of CAR’s armed groups formed in 2020 to disrupt the country’s presidential election. Realizing that it needed to boost its size to effectively take on the rebels, Wagner used the Officer’s Union for International Security (OUIS), a Russia-based company sanctioned last year by the United States Treasury Department, to obscure an increase of so-called Russian military instructors operating in CAR. Since their arrival, locals have consistently recounted incidents of human rights abuses.

Whispers about rape started as a trickle when Bouar, CAR’s fifth largest city with about 40,000 inhabitants, descended into conflict in 2020. The trickle became a flood in the years that followed. Young women have been trapped in the fighting between Russian paramilitaries, backed by FACA forces, and rebels from the CPC. In the last three years, tens of thousands have been forced to leave their homes, mostly to camps for internally displaced people. Others who encountered Russian paramilitaries either during rescue operations or when the Russians showed up in their areas ended up in the military base, where they say they were drugged and raped.

Alleged rape survivors in Bouar and their families are trapped in more ways than one, between their trauma and the fear that, in the highly insecure and volatile area they live, they could become victims again.
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Nidal was 14 when Russian paramilitaries drugged and raped her at a military base in Bouar, Central African Republic.

“It seems everyone who carries a gun in Bouar also carries an intention to rape a woman,” said Nidal, who told The Daily Beast that armed rebels raped her on her way to the market weeks after she and her friends were let go by the Russian paramilitaries who had sexually abused them. “Soldiers are raping us and rebels are doing the same.”

Rebels from the CPC took control of Bouar, which sits strategically on the route leading from the capital Bangui to Cameroon, on Dec. 27, 2020, and immediately began to rape young girls, including a minor, according to a United Nations report (PDF). In February 2021, FACA forces and Russian paramilitaries regained control of the town. The U.N. said the fighters who recaptured Bouar “committed rapes.”
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A general view of the RN1 road seen from a helicopter, in Bouar, Central African Republic, the main road of the country linking the capital Bangui with Cameroon, on September 26, 2020

But it is from the Bouar military base, where the Russians are present, that the most devastating stories have emerged.

Two FACA soldiers told The Daily Beast that some of the girls brought to the military base were gang-raped by Russian paramilitaries who often drugged the victims to ensure that they weren’t fully conscious.

“There were often two or three white soldiers raping a little girl,” one of the soldiers said. “The victims were always given pills and injections to make sure they don’t get pregnant.”

This started when FACA and Russian paramilitaries took control of the town in 2021, according to accounts from soldiers. Witnesses said the perpetrators usually kept their victims in the base for days until they were sure that the girls had the required pill dosage to avoid pregnancy.

Dozens of Russian paramilitaries are involved in the atrocities, according to witnesses. The rapes, they said, often occurred in small rooms with two or three fighters sexually abusing between two and six victims.

The abuse did not only occur in Bouar, according to two of the victims who told The Daily Beast how the Russian mercenaries who drugged, raped and injected them in Bouar transported them to Bloko, a town near the border with Cameroon about 70 miles west of Bouar, where Russian paramilitaries at another military camp also sexually abused them.

“After two days [in the Bouar military base], the white soldiers put four of us in their [pickup] vehicle and drove us to Bloko without even telling us why they were taking us there,” said a 17-year-old fruit seller who claimed she was lured by Russian paramilitaries to the Bouar military base last August. “On the night we arrived, they took us to a room, turned off the lights and forced themselves on us.”

A FACA soldier and a former rebel fighter later recruited by the Russians corroborated the claim that girls who had been raped in Bouar were later transported to Bloko, where they faced more abuse.

“Sex trafficking occurred often [at the Bouar military base],” said the former rebel fighter who became part of a group of local recruits commonly referred to as “Black Russians.” “Sometimes, 10 girls could be taken at once to Bloko where the white soldiers [at the military camp] also rape them.”

Since 2021, when they helped FACA to retake the town from CPC rebels who had seized it at the end of the previous year, Russian paramilitaries have been active in Bloko. The town is CAR's first customs checkpoint on the trade corridor between Bangui and the Cameroonian port city of Douala.

Russian and CAR officials did not respond to requests for comment from The Daily Beast on the rape allegations. Attempts to interview Aleksandr Ivanov, director of OUIS which in the past claimed to represent Wagner mercenaries in the country, were unsuccessful. In the same vein, emails sent to the Russian Embassy in Bangui, where Denis Pavlov, an intelligence official deployed by Moscow to keep an eye on Russian operations in the restive African nation, has an office, went unanswered. Russia’s Ministry of Defense, which currently oversees the operations of Russian paramilitaries in the CAR, also failed to respond to requests for comment.

The CAR is one of the most dangerous places in the world for women. Every hour, two people in the country become victims of “gender-based violence,” according to a U.N. report which stressed that the statistics only include cases where survivors had consented to sharing information.

Last year Doctors Without Borders, a charity that provides humanitarian medical care, reported that its teams took care of more than 19,500 survivors of sexual violence across CAR between 2018 and 2022. During the same period, the U.N. documented nearly 15,000 other cases of sexual violence in the country reported by other humanitarian organisations working in CAR, or by state structures.

In May 2019, the Central African government and the U.N. special rapporteur on sexual violence in conflict signed an agreement to tackle sexual violence by armed groups, including bringing attackers to justice and providing necessary services for survivors. But widespread and systematic use of rape as a tactic of war has continued, even by U.N. peacekeepers who’ve long been in the spotlight over allegations of child rape and other sexual abuse. In 2021, Secretary-General Antnio Guterres ordered the immediate repatriation of the entire peacekeeping contingent from Gabon following credible reports of sexual abuse by some of its 450 members.

Of the dozen girls who told The Daily Beast that they were raped in Bouar, only half obtained medical care and none disclosed the rapes to medical personnel out of fear that they might be stigmatized, meaning that they were unable to get essential post-rape treatment. The victims said they’ve been depressed and traumatized since the incidents.

Decades of violence and instability, including six coups, have rocked the CAR since independence in 1960. Despite being rich in diamonds and gold, the country is one of the poorest in the world. Its resources have been plundered by those in authority, and rebel groups have funded their operations through the illegal gold and diamond trade. More recently, the Russians have got in on the act, seizing goldmines often through brutal attacks that leave dozens of locals dead, and colluding with CAR’s political leadership, enabling billions of dollars in gold to bypass the Central African state and depriving the fragile nation of hundreds of millions in state revenue.

In 2013, the country was plunged into civil war when a mainly Muslim rebel coalition called Slka took control of Bangui and toppled the government. In response to rebel uprisings and looting, Christian vigilantes began a bloody ethnic cleansing of the country’s Muslim minority. The U.N. imposed an arms embargo on CAR in December 2013 and established a peacekeeping mission in response to widespread human-rights abuses, but much of the fragile nation remains controlled by rebel fighters (who now call themselves ex-Slka) and Christian militants, who struggle for control of territory and rich natural resources in a conflict that has killed and displaced hundreds of thousands of people.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin and Central African Republic's President Faustin-Archange Touadera meets on sideline of the Russia-Africa summit in Saint Petersburg in 2023.

In 2016, Faustin-Archange Touadra, who previously served as prime minister, was elected president of the war-torn nation, but not long after he was sworn into office, the former colonial power France—which had sent troops to the country in late 2013 in an effort to prevent violence between the religious militias—ended its military mission in the troubled country. Touadra then turned to Russia for help in strengthening his country’s military and overturning the U.N. arms embargo. The Kremlin accepted the request, but not without the African nation agreeing to allow Russia to explore its natural resources. (The U.N. approved a Russian training mission to CAR in 2017.)

Initially, Valery Zakharov, a former Russian military intelligence officer was installed as the national security adviser to Touadra, overseeing the operations of Wagner paramilitaries across the country. He quit the role in 2022 and was replaced by his former protgs Dmitry Syty and Vitaly Perfilev.

For months, Syty, who was placed under financial sanctions by the U.S. Treasury in September 2020, acted as Wagner’s operational leader and communications adviser to President Touadra, while Perfilev played the role of national security adviser to the CAR leader, supervising all Wagner contractors present in the country. Both men, who oversaw Russian paramilitary operations in the country as the rapes in Bouar and Bloko grew, are still in the country, but their influence has reduced since Russia’s Ministry of Defense created the Africa Corps and took control of its operations.

Syty and Perfilev did not respond to The Daily Beast’s requests for comment.

Two FACA personnel told The Daily Beast that some soldiers who weren’t comfortable with what was going on had written to top government and security officials in Bangui to inform them that young girls were being raped by Russian paramilitaries in Bouar and then trafficked to Bloko where they were further abused.

“The letter was sent to the president, the national security adviser (Perfilev) and to the head of the military, but nothing was done about it,” one of the soldiers said. “Instead, some [FACA personnel] were moved from Bouar and sent elsewhere.”

When contacted, a senior adviser to President Touadra told The Daily Beast that the CAR government “is not aware of incidents of rape” by Russia paramilitaries in Bouar and Bloko. “We have not received such a report,” he said.

Some of the victims of rape by Russian paramilitaries in Bouar and Bloko have had very challenging pasts.

Fatou and her twin sister lost their father, a carpenter, and older brother on Dec. 27, 2020, the same day CPC rebels took full control of Bouar after seizing a part of the town a week earlier. Fatou said both father and son left home early in the morning to visit an extended family member not far away from where they lived. In the evening, a neighbor found the bodies of the two men lying on the street. They had both been shot in the head.

“The death of our father, who was our breadwinner, and our brother brought hardship for our family,” said Fatou, who lives with her twin sister and ailing mother near the Bouar main market. “Because of lack of money, my sister and I have been forced to stop secondary school.”

When Russian paramilitaries rescued Fatou and her sister from their kidnappers last September, the girls were asked about their background and their responses proved how vulnerable they are.

“When we told the white soldiers that we had lost our father and that our mother was bedridden, they laughed at us and called us orphans,” said Fatou. “What we told them about ourselves made them believe we were poor children who had nobody.”

The sisters were let go after three days which Fatou described as the “worst days of my life.” The paramilitaries, she said, gave no explanation as to why the girls were finally allowed to go home.

“They came to us in the morning and told us we could go home,” Fatou said. “We were still in pain but we managed to trek home.”

Unlike Fatou and her sister, who were told that the injections and pills the were given at the Bouar military base were meant to prevent diseases, other girls told The Daily Beast that the soldiers forcefully gave them injections and pills without offering any explanation.

“They’ll threaten to kill you if you don’t comply,” one victim told The Daily Beast. “I took the injection because I didn’t want to be killed.”

Two FACA officials—one of them a medical official—who were at the Bouar military base for some time told The Daily Beast that the victims were often given the Depo-Provera contraceptive injection.

Also administered, according to the FACA officials, is Levonorgestrel, an emergency contraceptive that is used to prevent pregnancy after unprotected sex. A common brand given to the victims in Bouar is Postinor-2, the officials said.

“I didn’t see anyone react adversely to any of the drugs,” said the FACA medical personnel. “But it was necessary that they took them if they were to avoid being pregnant.”

Medical experts told The Daily Beast that women who seek to take Depo-Provera usually need a prescription for the injection from their health-care provider, who would likely review their medical history and possibly check their blood pressure before prescribing the drug.

Research suggests that Depo-Provera might cause a loss of bone mineral density especially in teens who haven't reached peak bone mass. And that the loss may not be reversible.

“There are other side effects like depression, decreased libido, leukorrhea, ectopic pregnancy, retinal thrombosis and pulmonary embolism which may not be noticed immediately,” Dr. Collins Anyachi of the Department of Family Medicine at the University of Calabar Teaching Hospital in Nigeria, told The Daily Beast. “That’s why it’s important for those who are given the shot to be closely monitored.”

For some of the rape victims in Bouar and in Bloko, the pain inflicted on them by their rapists will never go away.

“I cry every day when I think about the way I was abused,” Fatou said. “I will never forget what these white soldiers did to me.”

*Names have been changed to protect identities

This story was supported by the International Center for Journalists through the Jim Hoge Fellowship.
Afschuwelijk wat die meisjes hebben moeten doorstaan. Niet alleen door Wagner soldaten maar door alle partijen daar die verkrachting gebruik voor hun eigen doeleinden.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:04
https://apnews.com/articl(...)0a12044f36a36984607b
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The EU targets Russia’s LNG ghost fleet with sanctions as concern mounts about hybrid attacks
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An oil tanker is moored at the Sheskharis complex, part of Chernomortransneft JSC, a subsidiary of Transneft PJSC, in Novorossiysk, Russia, on Oct. 11, 2022, one of the largest facilities for oil and petroleum products in southern Russia. The European Union on Monday slapped new sanctions on Russia over its war on Ukraine, targeting Moscow’s shadow fleet of tankers moving liquefied natural gas through Europe as well as several companies. (AP Photo, File)

The European Union on Monday slapped new sanctions on Russia over its war on Ukraine, targeting Moscow’s shadow fleet of tankers moving liquefied natural gas through Europe as well as several companies.

At a meeting in Luxembourg, where the sanctions were endorsed, EU foreign ministers also agreed on new financial support to help Ukraine defend itself. Some expressed concern about a rise in hybrid attacks by Russia – including allegations of election interference, cyber-attacks and sabotage.

In an effort to push Russia into using more costly routes for energy purposes, the ministers said in a statement, the EU will “forbid reloading services of Russian LNG in EU territory for the purpose of transshipment operations to third countries.”

The EU estimates that about 4-to-6 billion cubic meters (141 billion-212 billion cubic feet) of Russian LNG was shipped to third countries via EU ports last year. Russia is suspected of running a “ghost fleet” of up to 400 ships to evade sanctions and keep up the flow of energy earnings so that it can finance the war.

The measures will target ship-to-ship and ship-to-shore transfers as well as reloading operations. It also involves a crackdown on the re-export of LNG to third countries via the EU, plus a ban on new investments to help Russia complete LNG projects it is working on.
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Scores of new “entities” – often companies, banks, agencies and other organizations – were added to the EU’s list, including some in China, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates. Many are accused of circumventing the bloc’s sanctions or providing sensitive equipment to Russia.

More than 50 officials are also being targeted with asset freezes, as well as travel bans. Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and scores of lawmakers and several oligarchs are among more than 1,700 people already listed by the EU.

Over 400 entities previously hit include companies working in the military, aviation, shipbuilding and machinery sectors, the Wagner mercenary group, political parties and banks. Around 210 billion euros ($225 billion) worth of Russian Central Bank assets are blocked in the EU.

After chairing the meeting, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said that “Putin wants to prove that Ukraine is vulnerable, and we have to prove that we will support Ukraine.”

Borrell said that an agreement was reached to provide Ukraine with 1.4 billion euros ($1.5 billion) in July, and a further 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion) by the end of the year, to boost its stocks of air defense equipment and ammunition, and to help bolster the country’s defense industry.

The money would be drawn from profits made from frozen Russian assets held in Europe, he said.

Earlier, some ministers had insisted that action must be taken to end hybrid attacks in Europe by Russia that take place in a “grey zone” just below the threshold of military action which are aimed at destabilizing Ukraine’s backers.

Finnish Foreign Minister Elina Valtonen said that “there’s a plethora of actions they have been undertaking against European countries.” Finland has closed border crossings with Russia, blaming the Kremlin for an orchestrated campaign exploiting migrants.

“There is no observer status in Europe anymore to Russia’s aggression. We are all victims of Russia’s aggression,” she said. “It is crucial that we keep on aiding Ukraine because Russia only understands power.”

Her Lithuanian counterpart, Gabrielius Landsbergis, said there is “ample evidence” of malign activity by Russia.

“Unfortunately, I don’t think that we are yet sending the right message,” he said. “Moscow has to get a very clear message that whenever they escalate, they will receive an answer from our side.”

NATO warned in May of Russian “hostile state activity” toward both their countries, as well as against the Czech Republic, Estonia, Germany, Latvia, Poland and the U.K., and said that the Kremlin’s actions “constitute a threat to allied security.”

In a separate move, the EU imposed sanctions on two people accused of online espionage with the “Callisto group,” Ruslan Peretyatko and Andrey Korinets. It said the group has waged cyber operations against EU member countries to try to steal sensitive defense and diplomatic data.

Also targeted for hacking activities and spreading malicious software were members of the “Armageddon hacker” and “Wizard Spider” groups.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:08
https://news.liga.net/en/(...)-support-for-ukraine
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Scholz believes his party is losing popularity due to support for Ukraine
Olaf Scholz says that due to support for Ukraine, the ruling coalition has lost popularity among voters in eastern Germany

One reason for his party's declining popularity, especially in the eastern part of the country, is its support for Ukraine, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said in an interview with Tagesschau.

Scholz's remarks came in the context of disappointing European Parliament election results for his Social Democratic Party in eastern Germany. However, the chancellor emphasized that there is currently no alternative to Germany's support for Ukraine in the war.

"It is true that there are many citizens who disagree with our support for Kyiv. They also do not agree with the sanctions we have imposed against Russia. This is reflected in the election results, but I believe there is no alternative at the moment," said the German chancellor.

Scholz stressed that it was Russia that committed an act of aggression against Ukraine and that this war is an attempt by Russia to redraw the world map. Therefore, the blame for violating the border agreements that had been in place for decades lies solely with Moscow.
Dat ze Rusland met fluwelen handschoentjes aanpakken om escalatie te voorkomen heeft ook niet geholpen volgens mij. En de oorlog in het algemeen en de gevolgen daar van hebben ook veel tegenstemmers veroorzaakt. Ook hier in Nederland.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:18
https://uk.news.yahoo.com(...)state-163203886.html
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Zelensky orders purge of Ukraine’s state guard in wake of alleged assassination plots
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Residents clean debris next to heavily damaged houses following shelling in Pokrovsk, eastern Donetsk region (AFP via Getty Images)

Volodymyr Zelensky has ordered the new chief of Ukraine’s state guard service to purge its ranks after two of its officers were accused of plans to assassinate senior officials.

The state security service (SBU) said last month that it had caught two guard service colonels accused of cooperating with Russia to plot the assassination of the Ukrainian president, military intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov and other officials.

Mr Zelensky introduced staff to the new head of Ukraine’s state guard, Colonel Oleksiy Morozov, on Monday and said his main task was to ensure that only those who see their future tied with Ukraine could join the agency.

He said on Telegram: “And, of course, the agency must be cleared of anyone who chooses not Ukraine for themselves or discredits the state guard service.” The guard service provides security for various governement officials.

Mr Zelensky fired Mr Morozov’s predecessor Serhiy Rud in May, two days after the SBU detained agency employees who it said worked for Russia’s Federal Security Service and leaked classified information. There has been no comment from Moscow on the allegations.
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In other developments, Russian missiles killed at least four people and wounded 34 others, including two children, in the eastern Ukrainian town of Pokrovsk on Monday, the regional governor, Vadym Filashkin, said.

“This is one of the largest enemy attacks on civilians recently,” Vadym Filashkin said on Telegram.

Pictures shared alongside his post showed single-storey buildings with shattered windows, damaged rooftops and debris scattered around.

Mr Filashkin said Russian troops launched two Iskander-M ballistic missiles at the town which is about 24 kilometres (15 miles) from the front line. The attack destroyed one private house and damaged 16 more, he added.

One missile struck before, half an hour later, a second, the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office said in a statement. The attacks also damaged a gas pipeline and cars, it added

Meanwhile, the Kremlin directly blamed the United States for an attack on Crimea with U.S-supplied ATACMS missiles that killed at least four people and injured 151.
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Smoke billows from a burning administrative building in Fryazino in the Moscow region (via REUTERS)

Moscow formally warned the US ambassador that retaliation would follow.

Blaming the United States for a deadly attack on Crimea – which Russia annexed in 2014 and now considers to be part of its territory, although most of the world considers it to be part of Ukraine – is a step further than the Kremlin has gone before.

“You should ask my colleagues in Europe, and above all in Washington, the press secretaries, why their governments are killing Russian children. Just ask them this question,” Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters of the attack.

At least two children were killed in the attack on Sevastopol on Sunday, according to Russian officials. People were shown running from a beach near Sevastopol and some of the injured being carried off on sun loungers.

Russia said that the United States had supplied the weapons, while US military specialists had aimed the weapons and provided data for them.

In Moscow, two people jumped to their death from the top floors of a burning eight-storey former Russian electronics research institute on Monday.

At least six others died in the fire, state-run TASS news agency reported. Black smoke billowed from the building outside Moscow and flames roared up its walls. Some people were trapped on the top floors but were unable to escape.

One man was shown jumping from the upper floor of the building by the Baza Telegram channel. Another, with serious burns, fell from the upper floors, footage published by Shot Telegram channel showed.

It was not immediately clear what caused the fire.

The EU has agreed to use 1.4bn (1.2bn) in profits from Russian frozen assets for arms and other aid to Ukraine.

EU governments had already decided in May to use profits from the assets frozen in the EU to help Ukraine, with 90 per cent of funds earmarked for military aid.

But Hungary, which maintains warmer relations with Moscow, has been holding up approval of the necessary legal measures, diplomats say.

Hungary does not give arms to Ukraine and Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban has criticised other EU and Nato members for doing so, saying they are fuelling the war.

At a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Luxembourg on Monday, chief diplomat Josep Borrell said the usual unanimity for foreign policy decisions was not needed as Hungary had opted out of previous decisions underpinning the scheme.

“Since Hungary didn’t participate in the decision, it is not necessary that they ... participate in the implementation,” Mr Borrell told reporters as he arrived for the meeting.

Hungarian foreign minister Peter Szijjarto said little as Mr Borrell laid out the plan, they said.


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Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:22
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/34777
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Ukraine’s Tech Hub Develops AI-Driven Drone Swarms to Combat Russian Forces
Ukraine is about to deploy an AI-powered drone swarm that can work together to destroy Russian tanks and gather intelligence.

A Ukrainian startup says it’s on the brink of revolutionizing warfare with an AI-driven drone swarm capable of coordinated attacks on enemy tanks and intelligence gathering, potentially giving Ukraine a significant advantage in its war with Russia, as per The Times’ report.

“It’s the equivalent of bringing the steam engine into the factory all those years ago,” said Serhii Kuprienko, the founder of the startup. “Our core mission is to get robots to do the fighting, not humans.”

These drones can communicate with each other, make decisions on where to attack, and gather intelligence “faster than any human could,” Kuprienko said.
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The Times reported that before the full-scale war, Ukraine had around 20 military tech companies; now, there are 200. Many are focused on drone technology, which is expected to redefine future warfare.

Deputy Minister of Digital Transformation, Alex Bornyakov, said that Ukraine has heavily invested in drones because of the disparity in human resources compared to Russia. “They [Russians] fight, they die, they send more people—they don’t care. But that’s not how we see war.”

Bornyakov said that Ukraine is testing swarm technology with at least one company besides Krupiienko’s. He said that while the drones are capable of operating autonomously, human confirmation is required for targeting to ensure ethical and safety standards are met.

“Technically, they [the drones] could do it by themselves,” he added.

Kuprienko said that his drones could be programmed to recognize and shoot based on uniforms. However, he said, “We don’t allow it ethically and for safety purposes.”

American expert Singer suggests that Ukraine may have already used AI to autonomously destroy targets. He mentions a sophisticated American drone system that identifies enemy vehicles, even if camouflaged, and coordinates automatic strikes.

Singer recalled politicians assuring that this was a line they would never cross but added that it has now been crossed with little controversy.

The ethical debate over autonomous weapons continues among military experts, lawyers, and ethicists, as outlined in the report. Kuprienko repeats the official stance that a human commander must approve each attack. However, he concedes that some commanders might prefer full autonomy to maximize the swarm's effectiveness, adding “We’re fighting a war here, and we want to win.”

Like Bornyakov, he envisions a “kill box”—an area containing only enemy targets—where a swarm could operate independently.

As Ukraine pushes the boundaries of military technology, the world watches closely, aware that this innovation could reshape the landscape of modern warfare.
Ik ben benieuwd. Dat zou inderdaad een grote stap voorwaarts zijn voor Oekrane.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:27
https://www.businessinsid(...)ional=true&r=US&IR=T
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Ukraine aims to deploy squads of up to 20 sea drones to do the job of a warship, commander says
• Without a conventional navy, Ukraine has looked to innovative ways to counter Russia's sea power.
• Ukraine's sea drones will soon work as squads to mimic a warship's capabilities, a commander said.
• Sea drones have taken out a chunk of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, and damaged the Kerch Bridge.

Ukraine's sea drones are being marshaled into squads that can replicate the abilities of a single warship, a Ukrainian commander said.

Brig Gen Ivan Lukashevych, the mastermind behind Ukraine's fleet of naval drones, described the move in an interview with The Wall Street Journal.

He said the squads, each with about 10-20 drones, will work in concert to combine multiple separate functions.

"We do have a fleet, but it's divided into smaller elements," Lukashevych told the outlet.
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Lukashevych, who was appointed to lead a special unit for Ukraine's security service, said that previously naval drones were used primarily for surveillance or logistics.

"We are doing many things that no one in the world has done" with the technology, he said.

Ukraine was left without a conventional navy in 2014, after Russia's annexation of Crimea.

The move stripped Ukraine of the bulk of its ships and any control of the port of Sevastopol, the headquarters of Russia's much-feared Black Sea Fleet.

In response, and under Lukashevych's direction, Ukraine has developed several types of naval drones.

These include the Sea Baby, credited with damaging the crucial Kerch Bridge last fall, and the Magura V5, six of which hunted down the corvette Ivanovets in February.

Ukraine has also mounted a Grad multiple-launch rocket system on the back of a home-developed Sea Baby drone to hit land targets, as the Financial Times' Christopher Miller reported in May, citing an unnamed official.

The idea of a drone squad replicating the tasks of a full warship is just the latest iteration in Ukraine's rapid development of sea drone capabilities.

Under Lukashevych's direction, Ukraine has notched up a series of successful attacks using naval drones, and along with long-range anti-ship missiles they've destroyed or damaged a large portion of Russia's Black Sea Fleet.

In February, the UK said that 25% of Russia's vessels in the Black Sea had been sunk, damaged, or destroyed. Ukraine puts that number even higher.

As a result of the regular strikes, Russia's fleet has been forced to limit operations out of Sevastopol and moved many of its warships to more distant ports, such as Novorossiysk last fall.

Novorossiysk has notably poorer facilities than Sevastapol, and though the ships are still within cruise-missile striking distance of Ukraine, the time lag allows Ukraine's air defenses crucial time to react, as the Journal reported.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:39
https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/995557.html
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The Chief of Staff of the "Azov" brigade submitted an application to the DBR against General Sodol
The Chief of Staff of the Azov National Guard Brigade, Bohdan Krotevych, appealed to the State Bureau of Investigation to conduct an investigation into the Commander of the Joint Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Yuriy Sodol.

"I wrote a letter to the SBI with a call to open an investigation into one military general who, in my opinion, killed more Ukrainian soldiers than any Russian general," Krotevych wrote in a post on the Telegram channel.

According to the chief of staff, he reported on the situation in the offices, passed on information to "everyone who had the opportunity." Krotevych also stated that he does not care whether an investigation will be launched against him or whether he will be sent to prison.

"Furthermore, when testifying, in those cases on which I cannot speak, I directly declared about, in my opinion, "war crimes", - he declared.

Krotevych added that "all the military now understand" who the person is, "because 99% of the military hate him for what he does."

"The conditions under which the brigades are currently fighting, I will say this, is unreal heroism, first of all, of soldiers, platoon commanders, companies, battalions and brigades. And their heroism is based on the fact that they restrain the enemy not because of it, but in spite of it." - he noted.

The State Bureau of Investigation (SBI) officially confirmed the receipt of such a statement to the Interfax-Ukraine agency.

"It arrived yesterday, the investigators got to work," the department's press service said.

The SBI did not specify in relation to whom the application was submitted, as it became known, it is about Yuriy Sodol.
Als deze generaal inderdaad verantwoordelijk is voor zo veel doden door zijn onkunde/domheid dan moet daar wat aan gedaan worden. En moet hij zo snel mogelijk vervangen worden door iemand die het beter kan doen.

Dus hopelijk zal er snel een onderzoek plaatsvinden.

Natuurlijk is het een generaal zijn taak om soldaten een zekere dood in te sturen in veel gevallen. En zal hier altijd een zekere ontevredenheid over zijn.

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Naar aanleiding van de klacht is de generaal ontslagen door Zelenski. (Of een andere reden, maar de klacht was dan de druppel).

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Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:45
https://kyivindependent.c(...)n-banks-sources-say/
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Russian subsidiary of Bank of China stops accepting payments from Russian banks, sources say
The Russian subsidiary of the Chinese state-run Bank of China has stopped accepting payments from Russian banks, the state-controlled media outlet Kommersant reported on June 24, citing unnamed sources.

The U.S. and other countries unveiled a new wave of sanctions earlier in June that targeted Russian financial institutions, as well as entities and individuals based in China and elsewhere that help Moscow circumvent the existing restrictions.

Trade between Russia and China has surged by 121% since 2021, underscoring the Chinese role as Moscow's economic lifeline. A functioning payment system is necessary for maintaining trade relations, and Russia was cut off from the international SWIFT system in 2022.

According to Kommersant's sources, Bank of China will refuse to accept payments from any sanctioned Russian bank starting on June 24.
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"This is not very good news for the Russian market," a source told Kommersant.

"There will be additional costs, both in terms of time and cost of payment processing."

The Russian subsidiary of Bank of China is ranked second in terms of assets of Chinese banks operating in the Russian market, at 592.4 billion rubles ($6.8 billion) at the end of the first quarter of 2024.

The problems associated with the suspension of payments will likely "go beyond the banking sector, resulting in the state having less and less control over it, creating rising risks of fraud."

After the new U.S. sanctions were announced earlier in June, the Russian state-run media outlet RIA Novosti published an interview with a Chinese economics expert, who conceded that the sanctions would have a "certain impact on the Russian economy," but claimed that it would not be "serious."

At the same time, Peter Harrell, who served as White House senior director for international economics in 2021 and 2022, said the new sanctions were a "paradigm shift" that could lead to a "major retreat" of the remaining non-Western banks that still do business with Russia.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:51
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)-atacms-application/
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Ukraine’s M270 has been adapted for ATACMS application
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M270 MLRS launches the ATACMS missile. USA. Photo credits: Lockheed Martin

Ukraine’s M270 rocket launchers have been adapted for the use of American ATACMS long-range missiles.

Ukrainian volunteer Ihor Lachenkov showed the launches of ATACMS missiles from these systems.

In the published video, four M270 rocket launchers launch eight ATACMS missiles.

Presumably, the missiles were launched to hit Russian targets in occupied Crimea.
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On June 24, a series of explosions occurred in Crimea during the night. It is known that the Сenter of Deep Space Communications in the village of Vitino was hit.

US missile systems have different capabilities depending on the ammunition provided.
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The M270 launches the ATACMS missile. USA. Photo credits: U.S. Army (USAASC)

M270 rocket launchers are capable of launching two ATACMS missiles, unlike HIMARS, which are equipped with only one missile.

The rocket launcher is based on a tracked chassis, which allows it to move better over more difficult terrain.

The Ukrainian Defense Forces received these MLRS from the United Kingdom, Norway, Germany, Italy and France.
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MARS II of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. November 2022. Photo credits: Roman Chop

At the same time, the French version of the American M270, designated LRU (lance-roquettes unitaire), immediately had software and a modification of the launch platform that allows the use of ATACMS missiles without additional training.

LRUs are equipped with an upgraded EFCS fire control system, a new navigation system (using GPS) and a new communication system.
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LRU MRL in the Armed Forces. December 2022. Photo credits: ArmyInform

In May, it was reported that Lockheed Martin would modernize an additional number of M270 multiple launch rocket systems for the U.S. Army.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 01:55
https://en.365nyt.dk/2024(...)aboration-expansion/
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Denmark commits to train 20 Ukrainian pilots.
Around 20 Ukrainian pilots will be trained to fly F-16 fighter jets when the training mission at Skrydstrup Air Base concludes by the end of 2024. This was announced by Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen during a press conference with Norway’s Defense Minister, Bjrn Arild Gram. Poulsen explained that it will not be possible to continue training Ukrainian pilots in Denmark after 2024, as Skrydstrup’s capacity will be needed for Denmark’s transition to F-35 fighter jets.

Troels Lund Poulsen emphasized that Denmark will still be able to contribute to the training of Ukrainian pilots, but this will happen outside the country’s borders. Currently, some of the training takes place in Romania, but a final decision has not yet been made on how Denmark will contribute to this training effort in the future.

The international training coalition, led by Denmark and the Netherlands, has played a crucial role in educating Ukrainian pilots on the use of F-16 fighter jets. Denmark has also committed to donating 19 F-16 jets to Ukraine, with the first four expected to arrive this summer.

Norway is also committed to supporting Ukraine and has pledged to donate F-16 jets. Additionally, Norway is participating with two F-16 jets in the training of Ukrainian pilots at Skrydstrup Air Base.

During the press conference at the Ministry of Defense in Copenhagen, Troels Lund Poulsen and Norway’s Defense Minister signed a declaration of intent to increase cooperation in defense between the two countries. Poulsen highlighted the potential for closer collaboration between Denmark and Norway, especially regarding experiences with gender equality in the military and conscription. Denmark plans to introduce gender equality in conscription by 2026, while Norway has had this in place since 2015.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 02:01
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)ear-pobieda-village/
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Ukrainian troops repulsed Russian attack near Pobieda village
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Russian armor during an assault on Ukrainian positions near the village of Pobieda. June 2024. Ukraine. Footage from the video of the 33rd Brigade

Ukrainian troops repulsed a Russian armored attack near the village of Pobieda, Donetsk region.

The 33rd Mechanized Brigade said that the Russian invaders had launched an offensive early in the morning on the Ukrainian border.

For this purpose, the Russian command chose tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, which were equipped with additional protection.

This additional protection consisted of protective grilles and electronic warfare systems installed on the vehicles.
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The tanks were also equipped with KMT-6 rolling trawls to pass through Ukrainian minefields.

The principle of the trawl is based on pushing mines out of the ground and throwing them beyond the projection of the tracks.
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A destroyed Russian tank near the town of Mariinka/village of Pobieda. June, 2024. Ukraine. Footage from the video of the 33rd Brigade

The Ukrainian military spotted the Russian invaders on the move near the occupied town of Mariinka and began to strike.

To destroy the Russian troops, anti-tank missile systems were actively used to stop the vehicles.

“Our ATGM operators worked effectively: they hit five units of equipment. The unfinished armor was finally stopped by drone attacks,” the military said.
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Location of Russian troops near the town of Mariinka
The brigade named the number of damaged vehicles and manpower:
• 3 tanks (destroyed);
• 1 IFV (destroyed);
• 2 tanks (damaged);
• 5 invaders (eliminated);
• 4 invaders (wounded).

“The invaders who tried to take our positions burned brightly on the battlefield,” the brigade noted.
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Neutralized Russian infantry near the town of Mariinka/village of Pobieda. June, 2024. Ukraine. Footage from the video of the 33rd Brigade

To recap, the 46th Separate Airmobile Brigade is also actively suppressing Russian attacks in the Mariinka sector. On June 20, the paratroopers repulsed a hostile assault attempt in the Mariinka sector.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 02:11
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)ing-ground-in-yeysk/
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Over 100 Drones Destroyed in Missile Strike on Russian Training Ground in Yeysk
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An attack aftermath on a Russian military unit in the Yeysk region. June 2024. Russia. Satellite image from @bradyafr

More than a hundred various drones were destroyed during a missile strike on the training grounds of the 726th Air Defense Training Center in Yeysk, Krasnodar Krai.

The Dosye shpiona Telegram channel reported on this.

As previously reported, the attack on the training center took place on June 21, 2024. The Center trains Russian military personnel to operate reconnaissance and attack drones.

According to the General Staff, a training building and a UAV control center were hit.
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Destruction at the training ground in Yeysk. Photo from the network

According to the Dosye shpiona Telegram channel, instructors and technical staff from the Yelabuga drone factory that produces Geran-2 kamikaze drones were killed at the facility; their surnames are Gunya, Sadreev, and Kazhanov.

There is no information on casualties among the Russian military.

At the same time, analysts from the Astra community reported, citing their sources, that 9 Russian servicemen were wounded in the strike.

According to the source of the Dosye shpiona Telegram channel, 20 Geran-2 kamikaze drones, 50 Lancet drones and 40 Zala reconnaissance drones were destroyed.
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Destruction at the training ground in Yeysk. Photo from the network

On the night of June 24, the Armed Forces of Ukraine hit a long-range space communications center in the village of Vityne. The Center’s full name is the 40th separate command and measurement complex as part of the Titov Main Test and Space Systems Control Center of the Russian Aerospace Forces (military unit #81415). This facility was seized by the Russians during the annexation of Crimea.

OSINT researchers of the CyberBoroshno Telegram channel found out that at least one Krasukha electronic warfare system was located on the territory of this facility, designed to cover command posts and other important Russian facilities.

From a military unit near Yevpatoria, the Russians control the orbital grouping of their spacecraft. In particular, they provide the GLONASS navigation system and space monitoring.

In particular, the center is designed to support the GLONASS navigation system and space monitoring.
- 20 Geran-2 kamikaze drones
- 50 Lancet drones
- 40 Zala reconnaissance drones

Dat zijn een mooi aantal drones die vernietigd zijn.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 02:23
https://mil.in.ua/en/news(...)-cb90-armored-boats/
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Ukrainian Defence Intelligence Received CB90 Armored Boats
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CB90 boat of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine. June 2024. Ukraine. Photo credits: TSN

Donors have equipped the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine with CB90 armored boats.

The boats were donated as part of Metinvest’s Steel Front military initiative. The benefactors stated that the three CB90 boats cost UAH 165 million.

“It took us a long time to deliver them here—about six months—but today they have finally been delivered and the guys can perform combat missions,” stated Metinvest representatives.

The soldiers have also been trained to properly own and operate these combat boats.

CB90 boats are designed to perform a multitude of tasks. They can be used for amphibious operations, surveillance, and as patrol boats or special fire support craft.
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CB90 boats of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine. June 2024. Ukraine. Photo credits: TSN

“The boats are good, very powerful. They will be used to destroy the enemy,” the DIU representative commented.

The CB90 high-speed armored landing craft was developed by the Swedish company Dockstavarvet.

It can also be used for reconnaissance, mining, surveillance, and intelligence data gathering. For the latter, a surveillance radar is installed on board.

The boat is capable of carrying up to 21 marines in full combat gear, or cargo up to 4.5 tons. The troops are placed in the central part of the boat under the wheelhouse and disembark via the bow ramp. Due to its shallow draft, the boat can land on an unprepared shore.
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CB90 boats of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine. June 2024. Ukraine. Photo credits: TSN

The CB90 is armed with three turrets located behind the wheelhouse and one on each side. They can be equipped with a Browning M2HB 12.7mm machine gun or a 40mm automatic grenade launcher. In addition, the boat can be armed with RBS 17 SSM (Hellfire) light anti-ship missiles for strike or sabotage missions, and can carry four 2.8-ton sea mines or six depth charges.

The combat boat is equipped with two 600 kW diesel engines and two water-jet propulsions, which allow it to perform sharp maneuvers and reach speeds of up to 45 km in shallow coastal waters.
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CB90 boat of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine. June 2024. Ukraine. Photo credits: TSN

It’s worth noting that the Dutch government is set to deliver several dozen of these boats to Ukraine.
Leuke bootjes waarvan wij er ook een aantal zullen leveren. Al kan ik nergens vinden dat het om meer dan 3 zal gaan.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 02:32
https://www.politico.eu/a(...)ion-official-sacked/
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Dagestani official sacked after sons implicated in Sunday’s deadly attacks
Russian officials blame the West for the slayings, following the same script used after the Crocus City Hall mass shooting in March.

A local official in Russia’s Dagestan region was sacked on Monday after two of his sons were reported to be among the gunmen who attacked religious sites there on Sunday.

Regional Governor Sergei Melikov told journalists that the head of Dagestan’s Sergokala district, Magomed Omarov, had been removed from his post, without giving details on his connection to Sunday’s attacks.

Omarov’s dismissal came as the death toll from the assaults climbed to at least 20 in what Melikov called “terrorist аcts” and a “tragedy for Dagestan and the whole country.”

Police raided Omarov’s home on Sunday evening and took him in for questioning as media reported that two of his sons had been among the gunmen. Omarov also was expelled from the regional chapter of ruling United Russia party, while his profile was deleted from the official website.

Sunday’s attacks targeted two synagogues and two Orthodox churches as well as a police checkpoint in the regional capital Makhachkala and the city of Derbent, a UNESCO World Heritage site on the Caspian Sea.

Among the victims was a 66-year-old Russian Orthodox priest whose throat was slit, according to a local official. The regional Health Ministry also reported that at least 46 people were taken to hospital with injuries.

Three days of mourning have been declared in Dagestan, with large events and television programs canceled across the North Caucasus region.
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Sunday’s assault was the second mass shooting in Russia this year, after gunmen in March opened fire on a large crowd in the Crocus City Hall music venue in Moscow. That massacre, which killed 145 people, was claimed by Islamic State.

From exile, Kremlin critics blamed Russia’s security services for being distracted by President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and the political persecution of his enemies instead of thwarting real threats at home.

Russian officials and media, however, used the Crocus attack to serve their own ends, claiming to have found evidence of a “Ukrainian trace.” Ever since Moscow launched its full-scale assault on Ukraine in February 2022, Russian officials and state media have referred to Ukrainians as “terrorists.”

Еarly signs suggest a similar smokescreen might be fabricated this time as well.

Late on Sunday, State Duma Deputy Abdulkhakim Gadzhiyev claimed that Ukraine and unspecified NATO countries “were no doubt behind the attacks” in an effort to “destabilize our country from within” due to what he described as Russia’s success on the battlefield.

In his Monday post, Melikov appeared to convey a similar message, saying: “We understand who is behind the organization of the terrorist attacks and what goal they pursued.”

“The war has come to our homes,” he added.

But some independent analysts suggested the Crocus and Dagestani shootings could presage a descent into the sort of violence common in Russia in the 1990s and 2000s.

“In [events] in the Caucasus, we see another instance of the Russian regime’s loss of control in various places, which come as a surprise to the regime itself,” Alexander Baunov, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center and a former Russian diplomat, wrote in a post on Telegram.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov rejected the idea that Russia risks sliding into instability.

“Today’s Russia is different, society is consolidated, the sort of terrorist manifestations we saw in Dagestan are not supported by society, not in Russia nor in Dagestan,” Peskov told journalists on Monday.

While saying it was too early to draw conclusions on who was behind the Dagestani shootings, Peskov bought up a Sunday attack on Crimea, the Ukrainian peninsula annexed by Russia. Four people died and more than 150 people were injured there after fragments, likely from a U.S.-supplied missile, fell on beachgoers in the city of Sevastopol, Russian media reported.

“We understand perfectly who is behind it,” Peskov said, telling reporters to ask Europe and the United States why they were “killing Russian children.”
De burgemeester waarvan de zoons bij de aanval betrokken waren is ontslagen en ook uit Putin's partij gezet, al is Putin officieel "onafhankelijk". Natuurlijk is het Oekrane en het westen die achter deze aanval zit volgens het Kremlin.

Er zijn minimaal 20 doden gevallen en 46 gewonden naar het ziekenhuis vervoert.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 03:12
https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)ket_launcher_firing/
Improvised Grad 122mm rocket launcher firing against Russian positions. Volunteers of the Steppe Wolves Company. Published on April 2024

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)ing_belgorod_russia/
Drones attacking Belgorod, Russia

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)om_russian_military/
June 14, 2024 Video from Russian military personnel filtering water from a puddle using wet wipes. This is the result of constant Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian logistics.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)uries_some_russians/
Grifon 501 buries some Russians

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)pv_view_from_inside/
MRAP hit by FPV, view from inside
Die lagen zwaar onder vuur, of in elk geval de omgeving. Zo te zien zijn er geen zwaar gewonden gevallen in elk geval.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)rious_modifications/
Ukrainian ground drones in various modifications. In reality, there are many more, this is just part of them.
Daar zitten een paar hele gave drones tussen.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)s_a_supposedly_safe/
A Russian BMP-1 IFV negotiates a supposedly safe passage through a minelfield, only to find the sappers had been lazy. The troops seem to have escaped this time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)the_tsunami_assault/
Ukrainian Fighters from the "Tsunami" Assault Regiment of the United Assault Brigade "Lyut" (NPU) Clears out Houses and Basements with the Support of FPV Kamikaze Drones and a Spotter Drone in Vovchansk, Kharkiv Oblast. (Published on June 24, 2024)
Goede samenwerking.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)russian_drone_using/
Ukrainian Mavic drone downs a Russian drone using a stick.
Lol, helemaal geen slecht idee.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)_that_dualuse_goods/
Everyone should bear in mind that dual-use goods help Russia in killing innocent people every day. For example, the ZALA Lancet drones are unmanned aerial vehicles used for murdering Ukrainian people. They are packed with sophisticated electronics manufactured by the US supplied to the russia’s.

https://www.reddit.com/r/(...)o_head_to_ukraine_i/
More M1117’s getting prepped to head to Ukraine I think. This is at my work (US). I’ve seen them being brought in for the past week on low boys. More are still coming in based off the lay-down yard layout.
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sp3cdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 03:35
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Leuke bootjes waarvan wij er ook een aantal zullen leveren. Al kan ik nergens vinden dat het om meer dan 3 zal gaan.
Zou leuk zijn als Nederland er zelf ook een paar kocht
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 03:37
Idisromdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 04:43
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https://interfax.com.ua/news/general/995557.html
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Als deze generaal inderdaad verantwoordelijk is voor zo veel doden door zijn onkunde/domheid dan moet daar wat aan gedaan worden. En moet hij zo snel mogelijk vervangen worden door iemand die het beter kan doen.

Dus hopelijk zal er snel een onderzoek plaatsvinden.

Natuurlijk is het een generaal zijn taak om soldaten een zekere dood in te sturen in veel gevallen. En zal hier altijd een zekere ontevredenheid over zijn.

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Naar aanleiding van de klacht is de generaal ontslagen door Zelenski. (Of een andere reden, maar de klacht was dan de druppel).
Nou vond ik de Azov-brigade zelf ook een stel losgeslagen militairen, die weinig gaf om de burgers en burgerdoden.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 07:27
https://www.twz.com/land/(...)mmunications-station
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Ukraine Used Prized ATACMS Missiles To Strike Unique Cold War-Era Space Communications Station
The NIP-16 space communications and tracking facility is an intriguing target for a Ukrainian ATACMS strike that may point to its new purpose.

Ukraine struck the NIP-16 Deep Space Communications site in Vitino, Crimea on Saturday, one of two attacks it carried out on the occupied peninsula over the weekend.

Those strikes were carried out by U.S.-made Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) short-range ballistic missiles, Russian and Ukrainian sources claim.

The first attack over the weekend struck a space communications facility where there about 20 radar dishes, with some arrays packing eight dishes combined in giant fixtures. Low-resolution satellite imagery obtained by The War Zone shows that it was indeed attacked. However, the quality of the images makes it is hard to determine the exact extent of the damage. One was taken on June 22, before the attack, and the other after on June 24.
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Satellite imagery captured before and after the Ukrainian attack on a Russian space satellite tracking site near the town of Vitino in Crimea
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The after image shows new scorch marks in an open area of the facility as well as near an array of eight radar dishes a short distance to the east. Additional scorch marks can be seen just to the north and east of that array. It is hard to say for sure, but if these were cluster-munition ATACMS variants, the dishes could be riddled with shrapnel. We just don’t know the extent of the damage at the moment.

Videos emerged on social media overnight of a large-scale fire reportedly at the space tracking site.

NASA’s Fire Information for Resource Management System (FIRMS) confirms fires were burning there.
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NASA’s Fire Information for Resource Management System (FIRMS) confirms fires at the satellite tracking site in Crimea. FIRMS screencap

The site is now officially known as the 40th Separate Command and Measurement Complex and it is part of the Titov Main Test and Space Systems Control Center of the Russian Aerospace Forces, according to the Ukrainian Militanaryi news outlet.

It was originally built during the Cold War-era to track Russian space launches. You can get a better sense of what it looks like now in this image below.
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There are about 20 radar dishes, including two large arrays of eight each, at this Russian space communications facility in Vision, Crimea. Google Earth image

Construction on the facility began in March, 1960 by 5,000 Russian naval conscripts, according to Russian Spaceweb.com.

“The facility performed its real duty for the first time in February 1961, supporting the mission of the Venera-1 spacecraft,” the publication explained. “The center then played a critical command and control role in all Soviet planetary missions to the Moon, Venus and Mars. From 1967 to 1975, the Yevpatoria site served as the USSR’s main mission control center.”

Control operations for manned missions were moved in 1975, to a newly built facility in Podlipki, near Moscow, just meters away from the campus of NPO Energia, the USSR’s prime developer of manned spacecraft, according to Russian Spaceweb.com. Since then, “it became a backup center for manned space flight.”
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One of the radar dishes at the NIP-16 Deep Space Communications site in Crimea. Wikimedia Commons

After it was seized by Russia following the 2014 takeover of Crimea, it was turned over to its Aerospace Forces, which began the modernization of the facility, the Ukrainian Defense Express news outlet reported.

“As of 2017, reports stated the center had received 10 new systems and the upgrading was still proceeding,” the publication continued. “The initial plan was to spend 1.8 billion rubles on the reconstruction of one radio telescope alone: at the exchange rate of that time, cost about $28 million.”

It is now being “used by Russia for ballistic missile early warning looking towards the Middle East, Africa and Southwest Asia,” the Kyiv Post reported.

However, Fabian Rene Hoffmann, a Doctoral Research Fellow at the University of Oslo, suggested a different use.

“I haven’t found anything that indicates that it would serve as a downlink for space-based early-warning satellites, so I assume it plays no role in ballistic missile defense,” he told The War Zone on Monday.

Instead, he suggested that “a plausible explanation appears to be that the site is used for maintaining and controlling Russian satellites, including GLONASS [GLObalnaya NAvigatsionnaya Sputnikovaya Sistema in Russian] satellites,” the Russian version of the U.S. Global Positioning System (GPS).

“This makes sense to me and also explains why it would be a priority target for Ukraine.”

Whatever it is being used for, Ukraine clearly thought it was important enough to Russia’s fighting capabilities, or to them just as a strategic asset, to spend precious ATACMS missiles trying to put it out of action.

Last month, we reported that Ukraine attacked a Russian strategic early warning radar site in the southwestern end of the country. It was substantially damaged in a reported Ukrainian drone attack. It appeared to be a first-of-its-kind attack on a site linked to Russia’s general strategic defense.

“As such, it points to a new and worrisome dimension to the conflict, especially when it comes to the potential use of nuclear weapons,” we wrote at the time.

A satellite image taken on May 23 that The War Zone obtained from Planet Labs of the Armavir Radar Station in Russia’s southwestern Krasnodar Krai shows significant debris around one of the site’s two Voronezh-DM radar buildings.
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A satellite image of the taken on May 23. Significant damage to the southwest-facing Voronezh-DM early warning radar at the site and associated debris are clearly visible.

That attack was met with consternation from the Federation of American Scientists, which you can see below.

In the second attack on Russian facilities in Crimea over the weekend, the occupation governor of Sevastopol said at least four people were killed, including two children and 82 hospitalized in a strike that vacationers scrambling from a crowded beach.

The Russian Defense Ministry (MoD) blamed the U.S. for the attack on Sevastopol, a frequent target of Ukraine.

“…a terrorist missile strike by five U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles equipped by cluster warheads was deliberately delivered at Sevastopol,” the Russian MoD stated on Sunday. “The alerted air defense units intercepted four U.S.-made ATACMS missiles. The explosion of the fragmentation warhead of the fifth U.S.-made missile in the air led to high number of casualties among peaceful residents of Sevastopol.”

U.S. “specialists input all flight tasks in the U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles on the basis of data of the U.S. satellite reconnaissance,” the Mod complained. “That is why Washington is mostly responsible for the deliberate missile strike at peaceful residents of Sevastopol by delivering this weaponry to Ukraine, as well as the Kyiv regime, from the territory of which the strike was launched.”

“Such actions are not going to be left unanswered,” the MoD threatened.

The Pentagon dimissed the acccusations.

“Ukraine makes its own targeting decisions and conducts its own military operations,” Maj. Charlie Dietz, a Pentagon spokesman, said on Monday.

U.S. Ambassador Lynne Tracy was summoned to the foreign ministry and faced accusations that Washington was “waging a hybrid war against Russia and has actually become a party to the conflict,” Reuters reported The attack, Russia told Tracy, would “not go unpunished. Retaliatory measures will definitely follow.”

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov on Monday called the strike “barbaric” and accused the US of “killing Russian children,” the BBC reported.

He pointed towards comments by President Vladimir Putin, who recently vowed to target countries supplying weapons to Ukraine.

Ukrainian officials meanwhile blamed the deaths and injuries on a Russian air defense missile.

Meanwhile, Kyiv scoffed at Russian complaints that its civilians were targeted.

“Crimea is also a large military camp and warehouse, with hundreds of direct military targets, which the Russians are cynically trying to disguise and cover with their civilians. Which, for their part, are civilian occupiers,” said Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Mikhail Podolyak.

In the coming days, we will learn more about the damage at the antenna site. Ukraine has been steadily striking Russian air defenses and radar systems on Crimea. This included an S-400 Surface-to-Air (SAM) system taken out last year near the space tracking site. That area of the western Crimean coast is of high strategic value as it provides an ideal place from which to monitor the western Black Sea and the airspace above it that flows into Ukraine. Blinding sensor and air defense systems in this area give long-range drones and missiles a far better shot at reaching their targets.

In response to Ukraine’s long-range ballistic missiles supplied by the U.S., Russia has now reportedly deployed an S-500 anti-ballistic missile-capable system to southern Crimea. With ATACMS still clearly getting through, it appears Ukraine is overcoming the S-500’s capabilities, exploiting its limitations, or striking just outside of its effective anti-ballistic missile range.
De eerste satelliet beelden van de schade op het terrein van de NIP-16 space communications and tracking facility. Er staan nog een aantal twitter berichten in het artikel. Maar die zijn grotendeels al langsgekomen.

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It is now being “used by Russia for ballistic missile early warning looking towards the Middle East, Africa and Southwest Asia,” the Kyiv Post reported.

However, Fabian Rene Hoffmann, a Doctoral Research Fellow at the University of Oslo, suggested a different use.

“I haven’t found anything that indicates that it would serve as a downlink for space-based early-warning satellites, so I assume it plays no role in ballistic missile defense,” he told The War Zone on Monday.

Instead, he suggested that “a plausible explanation appears to be that the site is used for maintaining and controlling Russian satellites, including GLONASS [GLObalnaya NAvigatsionnaya Sputnikovaya Sistema in Russian] satellites,” the Russian version of the U.S. Global Positioning System (GPS).

“This makes sense to me and also explains why it would be a priority target for Ukraine.”

Whatever it is being used for, Ukraine clearly thought it was important enough to Russia’s fighting capabilities, or to them just as a strategic asset, to spend precious ATACMS missiles trying to put it out of action.
Buiten de ruimte communicatie zijn er dus nog twee mogelijke gebruiken van deze installatie. Het eerder genoemde GLONASS systeem. Maar het zou ook deel kunnen uit maken van het ballistic missile early warning systeem.

Ongeacht waar hij nu daadwerkelijk voor gebruikt wordt, Oekrane zag er een goede reden in om deze massaal met ATACMS aan te vallen. En dat doen zijn lijkt mij niet alleen omdat ze met de ruimte kunnen communiceren.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 07:46
Wat als Oekrane dit inderdaad zou gaan doen? Gewoon de Russische markt verzadigen met valse roebels. Het zou de hele economie plat kunnen leggen.
Delenlilldinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 07:48
https://apnews.com/articl(...)d047a183a1daea02d773
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US is expected to send Ukraine $150 million more in munitions to fight off Russia’s attacks
The U.S. is expected to announce Tuesday it is sending an additional $150 million in critically needed munitions to Ukraine, as Russia accuses Ukraine of using U.S.-provided munitions to strike inside Russia or Russian-held territory, according to two U.S. officials.

On Monday, Russia summoned the American ambassador to protest what it says was the use of U.S.-made advanced missiles in a Ukrainian attack on Crimea on Sunday that reportedly killed four people and wounded more than 150.

Crimea, which Russian seized from Ukraine in 2014 in a move that most of the world rejected as unlawful, long had been declared a fair target for Ukraine by its Western allies.

However, the Pentagon said last week that Ukraine’s military is also now allowed to use longer-range missiles provided by the U.S. to strike targets inside Russia if it is acting in self-defense. Since the outset of the war, the U.S. had maintained a policy of not allowing Ukraine to use the weapons it provided to hit targets on Russian soil for fear of further escalating the conflict.

The continued flow of U.S. munitions, which will be drawn from existing stockpiles, is intended to help Ukrainian forces repel intensified Russian attacks.

The upcoming shipment is expected to include munitions for the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS. That system is capable of firing the longer-range missiles from the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, which Russia has said would prompt retaliation and risk escalating the conflict. One of the U.S. officials said they could not verify whether this aid package included ATACMS munitions, but said the aid did not include cluster munitions.

The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to provide details that had not yet been made public.

The package also includes anti-armor weapons, small arms and grenades and the highly sought-after 155 mm and 105 mm artillery rounds, among other support.
speknekdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 08:26
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https://www.twz.com/land/(...)mmunications-station
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De eerste satelliet beelden van de schade op het terrein van de NIP-16 space communications and tracking facility. Er staan nog een aantal twitter berichten in het artikel. Maar die zijn grotendeels al langsgekomen.
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Buiten de ruimte communicatie zijn er dus nog twee mogelijke gebruiken van deze installatie. Het eerder genoemde GLONASS systeem. Maar het zou ook deel kunnen uit maken van het ballistic missile early warning systeem.

Ongeacht waar hij nu daadwerkelijk voor gebruikt wordt, Oekrane zag er een goede reden in om deze massaal met ATACMS aan te vallen. En dat doen zijn lijkt mij niet alleen omdat ze met de ruimte kunnen communiceren.
Oh dat is wel een interessante, misschien wordt het helemaal niet gebruikt voor de oorlog, maar is het onderdeel van de strategische nucleaire afschrikking. In die zin snap ik Ruslands verdenking wel dat de VS erachter zit, maar het is natuurlijk ook zeer voordelig voor Oekrane als de Russische nucleaire triad uiteindelijk aanzienlijk minder sterk wordt dan die van het Westen.
Ulxdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 08:53
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Oh dat is wel een interessante, misschien wordt het helemaal niet gebruikt voor de oorlog, maar is het onderdeel van de strategische nucleaire afschrikking. In die zin snap ik Ruslands verdenking wel dat de VS erachter zit, maar het is natuurlijk ook zeer voordelig voor Oekrane als de Russische nucleaire triad uiteindelijk aanzienlijk minder sterk wordt dan die van het Westen.
Er zullen ongetwijfeld wel systemen hebben gestaan die tijdens de oorlog gebruikt werden. Maar als het een early-warning systeem was moet Rusland zich wel even achter de oren krabben of een nucleaire first strike op Oekrane wel een goed idee is. De vernietiging zal ze blind hebben gemaakt in het zuiden.
BEFEMdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 08:57
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Wat als Oekrane dit inderdaad zou gaan doen? Gewoon de Russische markt verzadigen met valse roebels. Het zou de hele economie plat kunnen leggen.
Dit wordt al honderden jaren geroepen in allerlei oorlogen. Volgens mij is dat nooit gelukt.

Je kan over de Tweede Wereldoorlog wel veel vinden wat betreft dit onderwerp.
Ulxdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 09:03
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ipa84dinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 09:11
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Dit wordt al honderden jaren geroepen in allerlei oorlogen. Volgens mij is dat nooit gelukt.

Je kan over de Tweede Wereldoorlog wel veel vinden wat betreft dit onderwerp.
Klopt heeft en heeft volgens mij ook niet zoveel impact gehad.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operatie_Bernhard
ExTecdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 10:06
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 25 juni 2024 07:46 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Wat als Oekrane dit inderdaad zou gaan doen? Gewoon de Russische markt verzadigen met valse roebels. Het zou de hele economie plat kunnen leggen.
Vind ik een interessant idee. Oekraine moet contact opnemen met die dude.
ExTecdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 10:08
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 25 juni 2024 08:57 schreef BEFEM het volgende:

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Dit wordt al honderden jaren geroepen in allerlei oorlogen. Volgens mij is dat nooit gelukt.

Je kan over de Tweede Wereldoorlog wel veel vinden wat betreft dit onderwerp.
Mss het filmpje echt kijken. Hij geeft voorbeelden waar het wel gewerkt heeft.
polderturkdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 10:21
Ze geven de gevangenen bijna niks te eten.

Misschien 1 maaltijd per week ofzo.

Hij is op de rand van de dood.

Bijna een skelet.

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BEFEMdinsdag 25 juni 2024 @ 10:24
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Mss het filmpje echt kijken. Hij geeft voorbeelden waar het wel gewerkt heeft.
Gekeken, slecht verhaal.