[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #770 Rigged election!

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 07:27 schreef Hanca het volgende:

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Dat is natuurlijk niet prima. Ik wil ook dat Biden wint, maar niet ten koste van doden.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 05:18 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
CDC schat het percentage geinfecteerden zonder symptomen op 35%? Zoveel?

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gelles twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 03:39:53 CDC estimates that 35% of coronavirus infections are asymptomatic, 0.4% of sick people with Covid-19 will die

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Wat er in Georgia gebeurde in maart:

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CNN twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 04:49:29 Coronavirus spread through a southwest Georgia city for 10 days in March before hospital staff were told what was filling their wards with desperately sick people, a doctor told Congress https://t.co/MiFIIQRD7P reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 09:43 schreef speknek het volgende:
Tara Reade blijkt ongeveer haar hele professionele carrière en meerdere keren onder ede gelogen te hebben. Over de rol en ervaringen die ze bij Biden had, over dat ze een BA heeft gekregen, over haar rol op een universiteit later. Dat wil nog steeds niet zeggen dat de aanrandingaanklacht gelogen is, maar de zaak lijkt over te zijn, en zo'n twintigtal criminele veroordelingen waar ze gelogen heeft over haar expertrol zullen misschien weer geopend moeten worden. Tsja.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 10:29 schreef Salina het volgende:

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Bron misschien?

Heb wel eens een artikel gelezen van Politico over een onderzoekje bij een zeventigtal personen die met haar te maken hebben gehad. Die waren veelal niet zo positief over haar. Manipulatief, niet aan afspraken houden, gaf mensen sterk het idee ze te gebruiken.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 10:31 schreef speknek het volgende:

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O.a. https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)ade-credentials.html

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 10:26 schreef Salina het volgende:

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Ja, ach, Georgia is wel het toppunt van falen als je de staten even afzonderlijk moet nemen. Eerst die gouverneur die niet wist dat ook asymptomatische personen anderen konden besmetten, dan dat vervroegd heropenen van de economie, met goedkeuring van Trump, of nee, toch weer niet achteraf; en dan natuurlijk recent nog dat wonderbaarlijk presenteren van de aflopende cijfertjes van besmettingen op zo'n manier dat 2 mei voor 26 april plaatsvond.
Het was maar een onschuldig foutje trouwens, dat moet wel even gezegd worden. De mooi aflopende lijn berustte op louter toeval. Kan gebeuren. Shit happens.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 10:47 schreef PippenScottie het volgende:

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Hij heeft vandaag nog een conservatieve opperrechter benoemd.
Deze moet normaal gekozen worden via verkiezingen, maar Kemp heeft verkiezingen geschrapt en zelf een conservatief benoemd.

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Op donderdag 21 mei 2020 23:05 schreef -XOR- het volgende:
Deze al voorbijgekomen?

@ 1:10

Mika Responds To Trump Tweet | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 12-05-2020 om 12:54:00 When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so. Why did he leave Congress so quietly and quickly? Isn't it obvious? What's happening now? A total nut job! reageer retweet

Trump is een smerig dictatortje en moet worden afgezet.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 04:46 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Trump heeft een gunstige poll gevonden:

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realDonaldTrump twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 04:15:48 “President Trump is leading Joe Biden (D) in the battleground state of Pennsylvania 50.2 percent to 45.5 percent...This is significant, as it reflects a 4.7 percent jump from the previous survey.” https://t.co/wb0deC8LQh reageer retweet

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atrupar twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 04:20:56 The poll Trump is hyping is from a right-wing PAC and only pertains to Pennsylvania. A Fox News poll released today showed Biden up by 8 nationwide. https://t.co/nOqauil4tP reageer retweet

Intussen bij Fox News:

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NumbersMuncher twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 01:56:02 Fox News poll: Joe Biden now leads Donald Trump by eight points, 48-40 (was 42-42 in April)

Trump leads among men by 7, Biden leads among women by 20.

Biden leads among independents by 13, 40-27, and is getting 8% of 2016 Trump voters. reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 12:59 schreef _-_ratjetoe_-_ het volgende:

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Wat een gigantische dip van Biden in April. Dat was vanwege zijn eerdere kritiek op de China travel ban?

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 10:26 schreef Salina het volgende:

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Ja, ach, Georgia is wel het toppunt van falen als je de staten even afzonderlijk moet nemen. Eerst die gouverneur die niet wist dat ook asymptomatische personen anderen konden besmetten, dan dat vervroegd heropenen van de economie, met goedkeuring van Trump, of nee, toch weer niet achteraf; en dan natuurlijk recent nog dat wonderbaarlijk presenteren van de aflopende cijfertjes van besmettingen op zo'n manier dat 2 mei voor 26 april plaatsvond.
Het was maar een onschuldig foutje trouwens, dat moet wel even gezegd worden. De mooi aflopende lijn berustte op louter toeval. Kan gebeuren. Shit happens.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 13:18 schreef BlackLining het volgende:

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Wat hebben ze gedaan?!

Ik kan het grafiekje waar je het over hebt niet vinden. Klinkt wel als een prachtig voorbeeld van misleidende statistiek. Heb je een linkje?

Ze hebben toch niet de data gesorteerd op aantal doden in plaats van het te presenteren in chronologische volgorde hoop ik?

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AlbertLee2020 twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 00:11:34 Joe picking Amy Klobuchar is a smart move. Not only does he already attract moderate Dems, but he'll also be gaining the vote of moderate Dems, as well as moderate Dems. reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 13:18 schreef BlackLining het volgende:

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Wat hebben ze gedaan?!

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petecorson twitterde op zondag 10-05-2020 om 23:26:47 This graphic has been the subject of much head scratching by the @AJCInteractives team today. https://t.co/FS69vasFxR reageer retweet

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candicebroce twitterde op maandag 11-05-2020 om 22:38:22 @petecorson @AJCInteractives The x axis was set up that way to show descending values to more easily demonstrate peak values and counties on those dates. Our mission failed. We apologize. It is fixed. reageer retweet

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 13:18 schreef BlackLining het volgende:

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Wat hebben ze gedaan?!


Ze hebben toch niet de data gesorteerd op aantal doden in plaats van het te presenteren in chronologische volgorde hoop ik?

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 13:37 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:
Dit is de grafiek in kwestie.

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AmericaRising twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 14:08:29 .@JoeBiden: "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."
@cthagod: "It don't have nothing to do with Trump, it has to do with the fact -- I want something for my community."
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A study of 96,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients on six continents found that those who received an antimalarial drug promoted by President Trump as a “game changer” in the fight against the virus had a significantly higher risk of death compared with those who did not.

People treated with hydroxychloroquine, or the closely related drug chloroquine, were also more likely to develop a type of irregular heart rhythm, or arrhythmia, that can lead to sudden cardiac death, it concluded.

The study, published Friday in the medical journal the Lancet, is the largest analysis to date of the risks and benefits of treating covid-19 patients with antimalarial drugs. It is based on a retrospective analysis of medical records, not a controlled study in which patients are divided randomly into treatment groups — a method considered the gold standard of medicine. But the sheer size of the study was convincing to some scientists.

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” said Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute. “If there was ever hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”

David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at the Stanford University School of Medicine, said that “these findings provide absolutely no reason for optimism that these drugs might be useful in the prevention or treatment of covid-19.”

Past studies also found scant or no evidence of hydroxychloroquine’s benefit in treating sick patients, while reports mounted of dangerous heart problems associated with its use. As a result, the Food and Drug Administration last month warned against the use of the drug outside hospital settings or clinical trials.

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The new analysis — by Mandeep Mehra, a Harvard Medical School professor and physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, and colleagues at other institutions — included patients with a positive laboratory test for covid-19 who were hospitalized between Dec. 20, 2019, and April 14, 2020, at 671 medical centers worldwide. The mean age was 54 years, and 53 percent were men. Those who were on mechanical ventilators or who received remdesivir, an antiviral drug made by Gilead Sciences that has shown promise in decreasing recovery times, were excluded.

Nearly 15,000 of the 96,000 patients in the analysis were treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine alone or in combination with a type of antibiotics known as a macrolide, such as azithromycin, within 48 hours of their diagnosis.

The difference between patients who received the antimalarials and those who did not was striking.

For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Those given chloroquine had a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 256 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias. For those taking chloroquine and an antibiotic, there was a 37 percent increased risk of death and a 301 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias.

Cardiologist Steven Nissen of the Cleveland Clinic said the new data, combined with data from smaller previous studies, suggests that the drug “is maybe harmful and that no one should be taking it outside of a clinical trial.”

Jesse Goodman, a former FDA chief scientist who is now a Georgetown University professor, called the report “very concerning.” He noted, however, that it is an observational study, rather than a randomized controlled trial, so it shows correlation between the drugs and certain outcomes, rather than a clear cause and effect.

Peter Lurie, a former top FDA official who now heads the Center for Science in the Public Interest, called the report “another nail in the coffin for hydroxychloroquine — this time from the largest study ever.”

He said it was time to revoke the emergency use authorization issued by the FDA, which approved the drug for seriously ill patients who were hospitalized or for whom a clinical trial was not available.

The new study’s findings cannot necessarily be extrapolated to people with mild illness at home or those, like Trump, who are taking the antimalarials as a prophylactic. The president stunned many doctors earlier this week when he said he was taking a pill “every day” — despite FDA warnings that the use of the drug should be limited to those in a hospital setting or in clinical trials. (He has since said he is close to finishing his course of treatment and would stop taking the medication in “a day or two.”)

A large study of health-care workers that examines the use of hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against covid-19 is in the works, but no results have been released.

There have been at least 13 studies in recent months on hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine as a treatment for covid-19 patients. They have included randomized controlled studies and observational analyses encompassing patients on the continuum from mild illness to those near death. Evidence of any benefit, such as viral clearance or improved symptoms, has been almost nonexistent. But many found an increased risk in adverse cardiac reactions — especially when combined with the antibiotic azithromycin.

Earlier this month, some proponents of hydroxychloroquine seized on a study out of New York University’s Langone Health center that threw zinc into the mix with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, and showed the treated group had a higher rate of survival. But researchers emphasized that it only showed that the combination had some promise. They said the results also could have been due to other factors, such as the zinc being added to patients’ regimens later in the pandemic when hospital treatments and procedures had been refined.

Last week, the National Institutes of Health announced a clinical trial of 2,000 adults to determine if hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin could be used to treat coronavirus patients.

Topol, of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, suggested that the researchers should reconsider the ethics of those trials, given the increasing evidence of potential harm. “It’s very hard to ignore that signal, and it’s worrisome to continue giving it,” he said.

Geoffrey Barnes, a cardiovascular specialist at the University of Michigan, said the study’s approach and its findings were “striking” in making the case that “the risk with these drugs is real.” However, he said that due to the enthusiasm some Americans have for the drug and the Lancet study’s findings, randomized trials are even more important.

“There has been so much discussion about this drug that I think the scientific and medical community has an obligation to define what the potential benefit or risk is in the best way possible,” Barnes said.

When the first large wave of sick patients began showing up at hospitals in March, doctors had very little to offer them. As a result, many took a gamble on hydroxychloroquine. The drug had been shown to have strong antiviral properties in cell cultures, was widely available and was thought to be rather benign in terms of side effects. For years, hydroxychloroquine has been considered a generally safe and effective treatment for malaria, lupus and rheumatoid arthritis.

But those findings of safety were at lower doses than were being used at hospitals during the early days of the surge in patients in the United States and mostly in patients who were healthy. The population infected with covid-19 in hospitals, it turned out, was already at higher risk of cardiovascular complications because many suffer from high blood pressure or other heart issues. Doctors also discovered that, to their surprise, the novel coronavirus appeared to directly or indirectly attack the heart, including by reducing its ability to pump, creating an imbalance in its electrical rhythms, and attacking blood vessels.

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Op vrijdag 22 mei 2020 14:47 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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AmericaRising twitterde op vrijdag 22-05-2020 om 14:08:29 .@:JoeBiden: "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."

@:cthagod: "It don't have nothing to do with Trump, it has to do with the fact -- I want something for my community."

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If you dont vote for me, you aint black.