Bulls, Bears & Bucks #43: Grootste stijging sinds Great Depression

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 22:49 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Ik verwacht een suckers rally

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 14:56 Topic: 3e Zwarte maandag op rij????? schreef digitaLL het volgende:
Ik denk eerder dat we morgen een suckers rally gaan hebben
Politici hebben van het weekend britse banken overgenomen en gezegd met ALLE middelen de crisis te bestrijden. Bovendien zal later deze dag wel weer een geruststellende mededeling vanuit Brussel komen.

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 22:43 schreef sitting_elfling het volgende:
Ik verwacht geen bloedrode dag morgen iig, vergelijk het nieuws alleen al eens met vorige week. De vraag voor mij is vooral, hoe het vertrouwen terug te krijgen van de mensen..

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 22:58 schreef en_door_slecht het volgende:

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Vertrouwen waarin? Het lijkt me volkomen terecht dat men het vertouwen in dit systeem verloren is. En er wordt al tijden geleuterd over vertrouwen dat terug moet keren, maar wie komt nu eens met het lumineuze idee om door aanpassingen te maken aan het systeem te maken vertrouwen terug te winnen? Gaan we eindelijk eens minder op de pof leven?

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 23:10 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Vertrouwen jazeker... maar zonder US deze keer (dat moet nu toch wel een beetje doordringen).
W.Bos heeft wel een beetje gelijk.... als iemand de ratings/sovabiliteitsgrenzen op mondiale schaal moet toetsen lijkt me het IMF de aangewezen partner Het feit dat Amerika niet de ernst er van inziet. laat staan open staat voor verandering is wat mij betreft gelijk aan een economische oorlogsverklaring.
- So be it...-
ff terug naar 3 of 4 deeltjes terug... Ik verwacht ernstige problemen met het herfinancieren van de US schuld + extra baiilouts. En dit gaat zijn uitwerking krijgen.

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 22:28 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
Hmmzz.. de dollar beweegt (en redelijk snel)

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Op zondag 12 oktober 2008 22:49 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Ik verwacht een suckers rally

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Op maandag 13 oktober 2008 02:52 schreef dvr het volgende:
Wie wijst me een online overzicht van open beurzen, en bijbehorende charts? Dank

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U.K. reportedly poised to invest in banks
Move may prompt suspension of London trading, report says

The U.K. government is finalizing plans to invest billions of pounds in four of the country's largest banks, according to media reports. The moves may see the government taking majority stakes in Royal Bank of Scotland Group and HBOS Plc.

An announcement about the deals is aimed for 7 a.m. Monday, The Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site Sunday. The scale of the fundraising could lead to trading at the London stock market being suspended, reports said.

The U.K. is expected to invest 12 billion pounds ($20 billion) in RBS, 10 billion pounds in HBOS, 7 billion pounds in Lloyds TSB Group PLC and 3 billion pounds in Barclays PLC, after receiving urgent requests from the banks for funding, according to the Sunday Telegraph. Lloyds TSB said on Sept. 18 that it would merge with HBOS in a deal that would create the largest retail bank, mortgage lender and life insurance provider in the U.K.

The Sunday Times said that RBS will ask the government to underwrite a 15 billion pounds cash call. The moves could see the U.K. government owning 70% of HBOS and 50% of RBS, said the Sunday Times. That would mean it could take board seats and control dividend payments at both companies, the newspaper said.

Recapitalizations would likely lead to discussions of executive departures, including that of Sir Fred Goodwin, chief executive officer of RBS, The Wall Street Journal said. It said there had been steps taken to identify a replacement for Goodwin. An RBS spokesperson declined comment.

Bank of England Governor Mervyn King told the banks to ask for more than they need, the Sunday Times said. The Treasury has increased the total amount available to banks to 75 billion pounds from the 50 billion pounds it had announced Wednesday. "This is not an optional extra. It is imperative [other countries] get on with it. There is a very clear sense that governments need to act now," said U.K. Chancellor Alistair Darling. "This is a necessary step towards stabilization."

The recapitalizations are part of a broader effort announced earlier this week by the U.K. government to stabilize its banking system. In addition to injecting tens of billions of pounds into the banks, the government said it will provide 250 billion pounds to guarantee bank debt maturing in up to 36 months. A program run by the Bank of England that allows banks to exchange securities for government bills has also been doubled from 100 billion pounds to 200 billion pounds.

News of the U.K. recapitalizations came as global financial leaders met in Washington to endorse a plan put forward Friday by the Group of Seven to backstop the financial system with injections of public funds directly into banks and into bank deposit insurance. The U.S. is working to unveil its bank recapitalization plans, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Friday.

Germany was reportedly set to unveil a plan to shore up its own banks' capitalization. Other nations, including France and Australia, were similarly reported to be rolling out emergency financial measures of their own.

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Op maandag 13 oktober 2008 01:28 schreef remlof het volgende:

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Omlaag weer eens voor de verandering
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Germany to use up to $135 billion for banks: report

Germany's government will set up a fund to provide as much as 100 billion euros ($135 billion) of equity capital to help the nation's banks through the economic turmoil, Reuters reported Sunday, citing the daily Handelsblatt.

The Wall Street Journal had reported Saturday that Germany was preparing a plan to bail out its financial sector -- not long after saying its banks didn't need such support. Handelsblatt, citing sources close to the talks on the matter, said that the $137 billion fund was part of a bigger package, valued at as much as 400 billion euros. That package also will include interbank guarantees or direct loans, the German paper said.

The move mirrors similar action around the world by the U.K., France, Australia and others. Germany's largest banks, including Deutsche Bank and Commerzbank, haven't been hit as hard by the mortgage-fueled credit crisis as many of their rivals in the U.S., the U.K. and other parts of Europe. Until now, the German government has said its financial sector was in good shape and has discouraged efforts at forming a European bailout fund, saying it wouldn't participate because it would be funding other nations' problems. That's left the 27-nation bloc divided in its response to the crisis, The Wall Street Journal report said.

But since the U.K. announced action to shore up its banking system Wednesday, Germany has come under pressure from its own banks and insurers to abandon "ad hoc" moves and put forward a comprehensive plan. The German bankers argued they would be at a competitive disadvantage because U.K.-based banks would be able to access liquidity more cheaply and easily, the Journal report said.

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Op maandag 13 oktober 2008 08:25 schreef ItaloDancer het volgende:
Bedoelde Kees nu de moeder aller koersdalingen of de moeder aller koersstijgingen?

In Amsterdam zal het iig zo'n 6 procent worden bij opening.