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Poll: 73% of Ukrainians Ready To Endure War With Russia as Long as Necessary
UKRAINE, Feb 22 — The Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS) released the results of a public opinion poll about Ukrainians’ perception of war. According to the gathered data, most Ukrainians — 73% — are prepared to endure the war with Russia however long it is necessary.

This data hasn’t changed since May 2022 — back then, 71% of respondents were ready to endure the war as long as necessary. 73% agreed with the same statement in December 2023. At the same time, 3% of respondents are ready to endure the war for another half a year, and 18% — for another few months.

How the poll was conducted
The KIIS ran a public opinion poll during February 5-10. Overall, 1,202 respondents participated in the poll. Respondents are residents of all Ukrainian regions apart from Crimea. The poll covered adult (aged 18 and older) citizens of Ukraine who, when the poll was conducted, lived on Ukrainian territories (in boundaries controlled by the Ukrainian government before February 24, 2022.) The sample size didn’t include residents of the territories that were temporarily occupied by Russia and Ukrainian citizens who live aboard.

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Survey: 85% of Ukrainians Believe Ukraine Will Win War With Russia, Most Consider International Support Instrumental
UKRAINE, Feb 20 — 85% of Ukrainians are confident in Ukrainian victory in the war with Russia. 15% expressed doubts about the victory. These are the results of a survey conducted by Rating sociological group.

“The important condition for Ukrainian victory is international support, with only 19% of respondents believing the Ukrainian victory is possible without international aid. Respectively, 79% are not sure that it’s possible to win without the support of the West,” Rating states.

According to the survey’s data, the number of people who have absolute confidence in Ukrainian victory dropped from 71% to 42% during the past six months. At the same time, the number of those who don’t believe in victory at all increased (from 3% in the last June to 15% now).

Among older people, the number of those who were totally sure of Ukrainian victory is higher, as well as among people with relatives on the frontline. Among respondents aged 18–35, 31% are sure Ukraine will win; among those older than 51, 50% believe so.

31% believe that, for Ukraine to defeat Russia, half a year or less is needed. But, more often (39%), people believe more than a year is needed to secure victory. The latter opinion became more common compared to June 2023 (25% of Ukrainians thought the same back then).

The most necessary thing for Ukrainian victory, Ukrainians believe, is weapons. 46% of Ukrainians agreed with this statement. In the second place, a lot of people (34%) placed the necessity to beat corruption. Respondents who weren’t sure about the Ukrainian victory often picked this option.

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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 20:42 schreef sp3c het volgende:
Als ze zwermen drones op Moskou los gaan laten om vrouwen en kinderen te doden zal de steun snel verdampen gok ik zomaar


Enige die daarbij gebaat is is Poetin

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Russia’s Supreme Court rejects Boris Nadezhdin’s final appeal against ballot rejection
The Russian Supreme Court has rejected the third and final appeal by presidential hopeful Boris Nadezhdin against the decision of the Central Election Commission (CEC) not to register his candidacy in March’s presidential election.

On 8 February, the CEC refused to register Nadezhdin as an official candidate in the upcoming election after 9,147 of the 105,000 signatures submitted in support of his campaign were found to have various deficiencies, a higher amount than permitted.

Nadezhdin announced the court ruling on Wednesday evening, adding that a CEC representative had questioned the extent of Nadezhdin’s public support during the hearing, claiming that “only 0.18% of citizens” had expressed their support for his candidacy.

“So this is how they explain the rejection of my candidacy to the 200,000 people who left their signatures in my support?” Nadezhdin wrote.

The Supreme Court had already rejected two other appeals lodged by the Nadezhdin campaign on separate grounds.

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FSB agents reportedly asking travellers crossing Estonian border opinions on EU
Agents of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) stationed at the country’s border posts with Estonia are questioning travellers about their attitude towards the EU “which supports the nationalist regime in Ukraine”, independent news outlet Mediazona reported on Wednesday.

Mediazona published photographs of the form, which also asks travellers about their relatives in Russia and Ukraine, their connections to security service employees, and whether they know anyone fighting “on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and/or nationalist formations” in Ukraine.

The form also requires travellers to provide their phone’s IMEI number, which can be used to track the location of a mobile device.

Mediazona’s source said that the form was being given “selectively” to certain people entering or exiting Russia and suggested officers may have been targeting dual EU-Russian citizens. The source added that border guards were using a special programme to study travellers’ phones for “keywords” and find even deleted content in checks that lasted around 15 minutes.

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Zelenskyy praises 'heroic' soldiers in preview of Bret Baier's exclusive FOX News interview: 'no Plan B'
FOX News chief political anchor Bret Baier interviewed Volodymyr Zelenskyy on the front lines of the war

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Ex-FBI informant charged with lying about the Bidens is re-arrested as prosecutors fight to keep him behind bars
Alexander Smirnov, the former FBI informant indicted for lying about President Joe Biden’s family and their alleged dealings in Ukraine, has been re-arrested in Nevada.

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Kazakhstan and Belarus assist Russia in its war against Ukraine—investigation
Investigators from Buro Media, Verstka, and OCCRP discovered that Kazakhstan and Belarus have become hubs for Putin’s regime to import sanctioned wires and chips for weapons development.

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Dearest Intermarium 24. This is Pete . I was born in South Africa and lived there 21 years . I naturalised as a Brit and lived in London 25 years. Ukraine is now my home . I love it's people and I thank God you are supporting Ukraine . Please help us . If people's hearts are touched , maybe it's what can effect change . It is far far worse out here than the world thinks . It's far far far worse . We are in dire straits here . The soldiers are brave. But are being blown up daily by artillery that they cannot reply to as we have almost none . It is Armageddon here . Lots of love , from a very sad place . Thank you once again . X

LIVE from Ukraine - Project Konstantin "Pete" Tells His Story from the Front

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Medvedev proposed sending Ukrainians who disagree with the Russian occupation to camps
Residents of the occupied Ukrainian territories who do not support Russia should be “sent for re-education to labor camps in Siberia,” Deputy Head of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev said in a conversation with TASS.

“If these are people who harm Russia, they need to be exposed and punished, sent to Siberia. Like this. For re-education in forced labor camps,” the politician said, answering the question of what to do with people who, having received Russian passports, continue to wait for the return of these territories to Ukraine.

Medvedev noted that “there are not many people there” who want the territories returned to Ukraine. “There are simply people there who sit and think: “Whoever is stronger, we will serve.” There are certainly such people there. But nevertheless, we must work with everyone. Well, we need to convince these people that we are back for good,” Medvedev concluded.

Earlier today, Medvedev said that Russian troops could reach Kyiv and capture the city during the current war, since the Ukrainian capital poses an existential threat to Russia. He said that Kyiv is a Russian city, but at the moment it is “controlled by an international brigade of opponents of Russia” led by the United States and therefore poses an “international threat” to Moscow. Medvedev also called Odessa the Russian city, the return of which in Russia has been “waited for.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the accession treaties stating that the Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions of Ukraine are now part of Russia in September 2022. Putin then said that residents of the annexed territories “become citizens of the Russian Federation forever.”

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Biden will impose sanctions on more than 500 targets in response to Navalny death, official says
The Biden administration will impose a fresh slate of sanctions on more than 500 targets on Friday in response to the death of opposition figure Alexey Navalny and on the eve of Russia’s two-year war in Ukraine, according to a Treasury official.

The sanctions will be the “largest single tranche since the start of Putin’s further invasion of Ukraine,” a Treasury Department spokesperson said in a statement Thursday, and will target “Russia, its enablers, and its war machine.”

The sanctions will come from both the US Treasury and the State Department, the spokesperson said.

The sanctions mark the latest move by the administration to levy consequences against Russia amid heightened tensions between the two countries.

Speaking Tuesday, US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said the new measures would be a "substantial package" that covers a wide range of elements linked to the Russian defense industrial base and sources of revenue for the Russian economy that power the country's "war machine."

Sullivan described the package as "another turn of the crank" after withering Western sanctions on Moscow since the start of the Ukraine war. While those sanctions have hampered Russia's economy, they haven't deterred Putin from proceeding with the invasion.

US officials had been working on a new sanctions package on Russia ahead of Navalny’s death and supplemented them in the wake of the opposition leader's death, according to a senior US official, adding that US officials coordinated with European partners on the new package.

Reuters first reported the number of targets sanctioned.

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Russian Investigative Committee sets more conditions to release Navalny’s body to family, Navalny foundation says
The Russian Investigative Committee set more conditions to release Alexey Navalny’s body to his mother, said Ivan Zhdanov, the director of Navalny's Anti-Corruption Foundation, during an interview with independent Russian journalist Alexander Plyushchev on Thursday.

Aside from conducting a secret funeral "among the family," the committee said they require the following three conditions:

• The body should be transported to Moscow on a special plane, and before arriving in the capital, Navalny’s mother should not announce the funeral in order for the crowd not to meet the body in the airport.
• The family must be accompanied by an employee of the investigative committee at all times before the funeral.
• Navalny’s mother should decide on the date of the funeral after arriving in Moscow. The body should be kept in the Moscow or Vladimir region before the funeral. According to Zhdanov, the investigative committee “is afraid that the morgue will be stormed.”

The death certificate will be given to Navalny’s family once they agree to meet the above conditions, according to Zhdanov.

Navalny’s mother was first denied the cemetery of her choice, and then both parties agreed to hold the funeral at Khovanskoye cemetery in Moscow, Zhdanov said, adding that the parties haven’t agreed on the farewell hall. Navalny’s mother was threatened into agreeing to these conditions, Zhdanov said.

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US will impose sanctions directly against Putin for Navalny death, Biden says
US President Joe Biden said Thursday he would impose sanctions directly on Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday, who he said was “responsible” for the death of dissident Alexey Navalny.

Biden made the announcement in San Francisco shortly after meeting with Navalny’s widow and daughter.

“I had the honor of meeting with his wife and daughter and to state the obvious he was a man of incredible courage,” Biden said. “We're gonna be announcing sanctions against Putin, who is responsible for his death, tomorrow.”

Biden said it was clear from the meeting that Navalny's wife would "continue to fight."

"We're not letting up," he said.

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Biden’s comment on Putin "can’t be resolved with simple apology," Russian ambassador to the US says
The Russian Ambassador to the United States said President Joe Biden’s recent comment calling Russian President Vladimir Putin “a crazy SOB” can’t be resolved “with simple apology."

“It is unlikely that the current situation will be resolved with simple apologies, and the US authorities will not agree to do this," ambassador Anatoly Antonov said in a statement. "Strictly speaking, we do not expect an adequate response. As we approach the November elections in America, these kinds of escapades are becoming routine."
The Russian Embassy sent “a strong note of protest” to the US State Department “about the outrageous nature and unacceptability of insults made by the American leadership against the Russian President.”

Antonov said the Biden administration “continues to destroy the remnants of the positive legacy of Russian-American relations” and “the inappropriate rhetoric of the American authorities only testifies to the impotence and lack of common sense in the current policy towards Russia.”

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Justice Department announces criminal and civil actions against sanctioned Russian oligarchs
The Justice Department on Thursday announced a sweeping set of criminal and civil enforcement actions targeting sanctioned Russian oligarchs and others accused of working to support the Kremlin and its military.

The announcement, made by the Justice Department’s Task Force KleptoCapture, comes days before the two-year anniversary of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

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The stay of Ukrainian children in "ideological" camps in Belarus in 2022 was co-financed by the UN UNICEF, - media. PHOTO
Children from the territories of Ukraine occupied by Russia were taken to Belarus to children's summer camps "for rehabilitation". The organization of such trips in 2022-2023 was taken care of by the Belarusian Red Cross. And in 2022, this program was also co-financed by the United Nations Children's Fund, UNICEF.

This is stated in the joint investigation of the journalists of "Scheme" and the Belarusian editorial office of Radio Liberty , Censor.NET reports.

Ukrainian children who were brought from the occupation to Belarusian camps were given meetings with policemen, photo sessions with Belarusian military personnel, trips to military training grounds, and were introduced to weapons. Military songs of Russian propaganda bands such as "Lyube" were sung at the concerts. They held ideological conversations in support of Russian aggression, set up against Ukraine.

Journalists established that the trips to summer camps of Ukrainian children from the newly occupied Mariupol and Lysychansk took place centrally - through Russian-controlled educational institutions and schools. Parents of children who visited camps in Belarus in 2023 told about it. According to the same principle, a trip to the Christmas tree in Minsk was organized in the winter period.

According to the leaked internal documentation on the activities of the Belarusian Red Cross, which journalists obtained thanks to "cyber guerrillas", the organization of the so-called rest for Ukrainian children from the occupied territories in Belarus in 2022, in addition to the Belarusian Red Cross, was provided by the UNICEF representative office in Belarus. This took place within the framework of the program "Humanitarian aid to refugee children from Ukraine in the summer: organization of recovery and preparation for the school year."

Journalists note that in August 2022, the Belarusian UNICEF, together with the Belarusian Red Cross, organized the placement of children from the occupied regions of Ukraine in the summer camps "Berozka" (Hrodna region, Belarus) and "Lypki" (Vitebsk region, Belarus).

Entertainment events were held for Ukrainian children in the "Berozka" camp, during which the children dressed up in the military uniform of the aggressor country, and pro-Russian war songs by the band "Lyube" were performed.


In the "Lypka" camp, children were organized to meet with the Belarusian police, during which they were introduced to weapons. Also, twice per shift, the children were taken to the Belarusian military training ground, where they were also given weapons and allowed to pose with them for photos.

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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 20:32 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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GL en SP zaten niet in de regering toen VVD het begrotingstekort belangrijker vond.

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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 23:52 schreef -XOR- het volgende:

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De pijnlijke conclusie begint zich meer en meer op te dringen dat Rusland het Westen heeft verslagen.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 07:29 schreef Akkerdjie het volgende:

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Ik blijf me verbazen dat mensen zo simplistisch denken als dit soort posts. Je hebt macht en invloed, je hoeft in democratisch Nederlnd geen macht te hebben om invloed uit te kunnen oefenen. En er is al-tijd geld nodig, mensen (dus ook policiti) hebben schier oneindige verlangens maar beperkte middelen om die verlangens in te kunnen willigen. De rest is politiek en invloed uitoefenen op de Overton window. Dat kan prima vanuit de zijlijn.


Maar het is uiteraard makelijker een standaard drogredenzin uit te gooien en daarmee de realiteit proberen uit de weg te gaan.

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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 21:43 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
https://www.newsweek.com/(...)mike-johnson-1872277
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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 21:43 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
https://www.newsweek.com/(...)mike-johnson-1872277
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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 23:02 schreef BlaZ het volgende:

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Dit wordt ook bericht in dit Oekraïnse nieuwsblad:
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Ook interessant:
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https://kyivindependent.c(...)gress-blockade-bite/

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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 23:52 schreef -XOR- het volgende:

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De pijnlijke conclusie begint zich meer en meer op te dringen dat Rusland het Westen heeft verslagen.

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Op donderdag 22 februari 2024 12:39 schreef Ulx het volgende:
[x]https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1760580763026694494[/x]

Volgens mij denkt Rutte er ook zo over. En de VS steunt Rutte.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 08:54 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Als het Westen zich er écht mee zou willen gaan bemoeien is het snel afgelopen.

Maar wij doen simpelweg te weinig en te laat.

Neem dat gekonkel over tanks, het heeft maanden en maanden gepraat, gestechel en vergaderingen gekost, en uiteindelijk kwamen ze toch.

Idem met de F16's en ATACMS.

Maanden verspild terwijl men heus al lang wist dat ze die gingen geven.

En ook met artillerie munitie, waar ze ook al maanden veel minder van hebben dan de Russen (mede daardoor is Andijvie verloren).

We hebben de keus gemaakt Oekraïne te steunen met materiaal en munitie.
Dan moet je het ook geven op het moment dat ze het nodig hebben, en niet eerst maanden vergaderen om vervolgens dan pas het groene licht te geven.

Doe het of goed, of niet.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 09:26 schreef -XOR- het volgende:

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Klopt, het is niet zozeer dat we militair of economisch minder zijn, integendeel. Het komt puur door de keuzes die we maken en door het gebrek aan lef.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 09:26 schreef -XOR- het volgende:

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Klopt, het is niet zozeer dat we militair of economisch minder zijn, integendeel. Het komt puur door de keuzes die we maken en door het gebrek aan lef.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 09:26 schreef -XOR- het volgende:

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Klopt, het is niet zozeer dat we militair of economisch minder zijn, integendeel. Het komt puur door de keuzes die we maken en door het gebrek aan lef.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 08:54 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:

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Als het Westen zich er écht mee zou willen gaan bemoeien is het snel afgelopen.

Maar wij doen simpelweg te weinig en te laat.

Neem dat gekonkel over tanks, het heeft maanden en maanden gepraat, gestechel en vergaderingen gekost, en uiteindelijk kwamen ze toch.

Idem met de F16's en ATACMS.

Maanden verspild terwijl men heus al lang wist dat ze die gingen geven.

En ook met artillerie munitie, waar ze ook al maanden veel minder van hebben dan de Russen (mede daardoor is Andijvie verloren).

We hebben de keus gemaakt Oekraïne te steunen met materiaal en munitie.
Dan moet je het ook geven op het moment dat ze het nodig hebben, en niet eerst maanden vergaderen om vervolgens dan pas het groene licht te geven.

Doe het of goed, of niet.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 07:29 schreef Akkerdjie het volgende:

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Ik blijf me verbazen dat mensen zo simplistisch denken als dit soort posts. Je hebt macht en invloed, je hoeft in democratisch Nederlnd geen macht te hebben om invloed uit te kunnen oefenen. En er is al-tijd geld nodig, mensen (dus ook policiti) hebben schier oneindige verlangens maar beperkte middelen om die verlangens in te kunnen willigen. De rest is politiek en invloed uitoefenen op de Overton window. Dat kan prima vanuit de zijlijn.


Maar het is uiteraard makelijker een standaard drogredenzin uit te gooien en daarmee de realiteit proberen uit de weg te gaan.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 10:46 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:
Zeker in Nederland is de kaasschaaf eigenlijk al 30 jaar lang over defensie gehaald.

Herinneren we ons dit nog?

[x]https://twitter.com/APechtold/status/627540480121769984[/x]

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Sinds 22 april 2021 is Pechtold de voorzitter van de Raad van Commissarissen van de Nederlandse Loterij.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 11:29 schreef luxerobots het volgende:
Gisteren bij Vandaag Inside, Rusland is aan de winnende hand en de oorlog in Oekraïne duurt voort door Amerika.

‘De oorlog in Oekraïne duurt voort omdat de Amerikanen er ook profijt van hebben’ | VANDAAG INSIDE

Ruslandpropaganda direct de huiskamer van de lageropgeleide in.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 11:29 schreef luxerobots het volgende:
Gisteren bij Vandaag Inside, Rusland is aan de winnende hand en de oorlog in Oekraïne duurt voort door Amerika.

‘De oorlog in Oekraïne duurt voort omdat de Amerikanen er ook profijt van hebben’ | VANDAAG INSIDE

Ruslandpropaganda direct de huiskamer van de lageropgeleide in.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 11:48 schreef -XOR- het volgende:

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Rusland is ook aan de winnende hand en voor de VS betekent opgeven gezichtsverlies dus die willen door. Dit is niet het meest controversiele wat Wierd Duk ooit over deze oorlog gezegd heeft.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 10:46 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:
Zeker in Nederland is de kaasschaaf eigenlijk al 30 jaar lang over defensie gehaald.

Herinneren we ons dit nog?

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 11:29 schreef luxerobots het volgende:
Gisteren bij Vandaag Inside, Rusland is aan de winnende hand en de oorlog in Oekraïne duurt voort door Amerika.

‘De oorlog in Oekraïne duurt voort omdat de Amerikanen er ook profijt van hebben’ | VANDAAG INSIDE

Ruslandpropaganda direct de huiskamer van de lageropgeleide in.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 12:17 schreef luxerobots het volgende:

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Wierd zegt dat Poetin er geen rede toe heeft om de NAVO aan te vallen, omdat hij nu al aan de winnende hand is. Dat lijkt me juist een reden voor Poetin om het wel te doen.

Daarbij is het behoorlijk lachwekkend dat Wierd zegt dat Poetin rationeel handelt, en alles aankondigt wat hij doet. Dat doet hij juist niet. Poetin heeft juist lang ontkend dat hij Oekraïne aan zou vallen.

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Op vrijdag 23 februari 2024 12:20 schreef RamboDirk het volgende:

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Die Wierd Cuck lult ook maar net wat hem uitkomt. Louter woordenpoep.