Rellen in Amerika #26

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Op zaterdag 6 juni 2020 22:50 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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-> BNW

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Op zaterdag 6 juni 2020 22:56 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Waarmee ik zeker niet zal ontkennen dat big pharma op haar deelgebied, heel, heel, heel veel invloed heeft.

Maar big pharma aandragen als root cause, why the US are, the way they are,

-> BNW

Zij zijn een van de vele symptomen, niet de oorzaak.

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Op zaterdag 6 juni 2020 23:59 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 00:05 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Aardig hypocriet van Uber.

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UberEats twitterde op donderdag 04-06-2020 om 22:40:30 You asked for a way to find Black-owned restaurants on Uber Eats. ? We listened.

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EricaJoy twitterde op zaterdag 06-06-2020 om 07:05:05 wait.

the man who trains the police on implicit bias tried to de-escalate a situation he walked up on, involving *the very same police he trains*, and they shot him in the groin on purpose. it is now unclear if he can have kids.

yeah. fuck the police. https://t.co/Q9PoNaGO4I reageer retweet

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 00:25 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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EricaJoy twitterde op zaterdag 06-06-2020 om 07:05:05 wait.

the man who trains the police on implicit bias tried to de-escalate a situation he walked up on, involving *the very same police he trains*, and they shot him in the groin on purpose. it is now unclear if he can have kids.

yeah. fuck the police. https://t.co/Q9PoNaGO4I reageer retweet

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The chief also said he is re-evaluating at what point in a confrontation officers can fire those projectiles.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 00:32 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Daar zijn ze rijkelijk laat mee dan, als je ziet wat die dingen voor letsel kunnen geven . Destijds ook vanuit Frankrijk wat nare beelden voorbij zien komen van wat er gebeurt als je zo'n ding op je hoofd of in (de buurt van) je oog krijgt.

Voor zover ik het begrepen had zijn de instructies om die dingen nooit direct op het lichaam te schieten (laat staan op hoofd of kruis) maar altijd via de grond.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 01:15 schreef vosss het volgende:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 01:15 schreef vosss het volgende:
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black households with no paternal figure, and only a single mother constitute SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of all black households in America!!! SEVENTY FIVE!!!!

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Black Americans constitute roughly 14% of the population in America, yet they commit 50% of all the murders. But, this is misleading - because it's not the elderly, nor the children nor the women who commit the murders. It's almost exclusively the young men (15-40). That constitutes about a fourth of the black population, which means that about 3.5% of the American population are responsible for 50% of all the murders!

Read this again: 3.5% of Americans are responsible for 50% of all murders.

You will find similar astonishing figures for drug related crimes, armed robberies, breaking and entering and gang violence.

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93% of all killings of black people are done by other blacks - BLM are completely silent on this.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 01:15 schreef vosss het volgende:
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@AmirPars_ / https://twitter.com/AmirPars_/status/1268898468766134279

I will lose many friends over what I'm about to say.

I will possibly be called a racist or even a white supremacist (even though I'm a brown man, who's been beaten to a pulp by neo-Nazis wearing steel toed boots).

But maybe, just maybe, the fact that I am getting 100% of
my information from the black scholars in the picture - The Great Thomas Sowell, Glenn Loury, Shelby Steele, John McWorther, Coleman Hughes, Kmele Foster and Thomas Chatterton Williams, allows me some room for thought?

I’ve been watching the narrative play universally over the heinous killing of George Floyd, and the complete and utter lack of facts about African Americans in The US has been infuriating.

Unfortunately, anyone who doesn’t submit to the dominant narrative will be called a heretic, a racist, a whites supremacist etc.
Still, I can’t stop myself.

1. Black Lives Matter don’t care about black people. Want evidence? Name me a single time - just once - when they’ve protested against black people being killed by other black people? Whether in America or elsewhere?
Why is this relevant?
Because the biggest cause of death for black men aged 15-45 in USA is... other black men. Compare to white people, where it’s traffic accidents for the younger portion and heart attacks for those over 35.
Or how about the black lives in Sudan, East Timor, Libya?
Why do we only ever hear from BLM when it’s a white person killing a black person?

2. Speaking of which - imagine if white people started doing the reverse. Imagine every time a white person was killed by a black person, there’d be protests, riots, looting and
social media campaigns. First thing to notice is that it would be more frequent, because African Americans kill more white people in the US than white people kill African Americans. Now what?
Should we really start applying the race card every time there’s a murder involving more than one pigmentation? Where will it end?

3. Police killings. The video of the murder of George Floyd is so visceral, by showing the casual evil with which officer Derek Chauvin kills George Floyd. People are rightly outraged, and no one can honestly defend the officer, who rightly has been arrested and hopefully will spend his remaining years behind bars (although the prosecutor has been idiotic in moving the case from 2nd degree to first degree murder - a burden of proof they will most likely fail to provide).

But... The only reason people are up in arms about these is that the social media and MSM attention focuses disproportionately on these incidents when the victim is black and the officer isn't. Don't believe me?
Let me prove it:
You've all heard of Tamir Rice - a 12 year old black boy who was murdered when brandishing a toy gun. It was all over the news, there were riots and marches, hashtags and universal condemnation all over the media.
But how many of you have heard of Daniel Shaver?
A white man who was showing his friends a scoped air rife used to exterminate birds who entered his store, and was killed for this?

You may remember the case of Sam DuBose, a black man who was shot dead for driving his car away from from the police.
The exact same thing happened to before that to Andrew Thomas, a white man driving away from the police. None of you have heard of him.

Alton Sterling was a black man shot dead by the police when reaching into his pocket for his wallet - a travesty.
The same thing happened to a white guy named Dylan Noble. Sterling made national headlines, none of us heard a word about Noble. Loren Simpson was a white teenager who was shot dead by the police in eerily similar circumstances as George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.
You've not heard of the former, but demanded justice for the latter. You've not heard of James Boyd, Alfred Redwine, Brandon Stanley or Mary Hawkes.

But you've heard of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
Because the only times police killings make the news is when the victim is black and the officer isn't.

Here are the FBI, NCJRS and BJS statistics:

For every 10, 000 black people arrested for violent crime, 3 are killed by the police.
For every 10, 000 white people arrested for violent crime, 4 are killed by the police.

In 2019, 49 unarmed people were killed by the police. 9 were black. 19 were white.
The likelihood for a black person being shot by the police is as high as being struck by lightning.
Yet, we are seeing riots, every single post on Instagram and Twitter is in support of Black Lives Matter and denunciation of police in America...

4. "Systemic Racism" / "Institutionalised racism".

Sound good, don't they? Such powerful words...
and completely inaccurate. First, let's see what the claims being made are:

Both insinuate built-in racism within various official institutions (police, law, governments etc).
Yet, when they are challenged, by asking the proponents to provide *evidence* for these, nothing is provided. Name one single law that is targeting exclusively black people. Just one. There isn't one.
If the police is "systematically" anti-black, explain how it is possible that 20% of the Police Force in America is black (African Americans in America constitute roughly 14% of the population, meaning that blacks are *overrepresented* within the police force!)?
Now, imagine how incredibly racist it is to say that the 100, 000 plus black police officers are too stupid to know that they are working inside and within a racist institution? That really is racism. And none of them have come out and said anything???
None of them have gone on 60 Minutes and said "We are being trained to be racists"? Seriously?

How about governments? Well, let's leave aside the fact that America just had a two-term black president (whose second name was Hussein, by the way).
Some of America's worst run cities have black mayors, black governors and majority black councils. Look at two of the worst cities in America to be black in:
Baltimore and Chicago. Why is it that a place where the people in power are black can be *worse* for the African American Community, than cities that aren't run by black politicians? This is a knock-down argument.

5. Disparity.

People often look at the economic disparities between blacks and whites, and claim it to be evidence for institutionalised racism. It says something about the power of a
narrative, when it has been debunked decades ago - by BLACK ECONOMISTS (like The Great Thomas Sowell) - yet the myth persists.

First of all, at no point in human history has any two groups of people had the same level of wealth or income as each other.
It would be an absolute miracle to expect that people with different backgrounds, cultures, histories, values and ethics to have the same level of wealth.

This is even true within so called races - compare for example Black Americans (generational) vs Black Immigrants...
particularly the ones from West Indies (Jamaica, Barbados etc.).

You couldn't tell these people apart, just by looking at them, and whatever racism is in place for one group must by definition be applied for the second group.
But what they have is completely different values and work ethics (the Jamaicans arriving in the US does so commonly to achieve greater heights than what he or she can in their home country).
Whatever level of systemic racism exists, they are subjected to it as much as the African American.

Yet, already in the 1970's (!!!), when racism was far more prevalent than it is today, Black Americans from the West Indies were earning 58% more than the Black American whose
generations go back centuries in the United States. How could that be, if there's supposed to be such a thing as "systemic racism"?

Disparities are only proof of disparities. Just because Group X doesn't have the same as Group Y, doesn't mean that it's explained by racism.
And why does this so called "White Supremacy" only run against one group of Black Americans? Why doesn't it run against Asian Americans, who out earn White Americans by over 60%? Why doesn't it apply to Jewish Americans? Or Indian Americans, all of whom earn more than...
White Americans??

Maybe there's something else going on...?

In 1965, Daniel Patrick Moynihan published his report "The Negro Family: The Case For National Action", where he saw that African American households were 25% single mothers - a frightening statistic that would have devastating consequences. Since then, Jim Crow laws and Red Lining have all been removed from the books, Martin Luther King Jr. and The Civil Rights Movement made tremendous strides and we've now even had a black two-term president.

But, today, black households with no paternal figure, and only a single mother constitute SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of all black households in America!!! SEVENTY FIVE!!!!

Now you tell me, which is the better explanation for young black children ending up in a life of crime - the lack of a father figure, or the mythical, non-explainable entity known only as "institutional racism", which for some reasons doesn't apply to Nigerian immigrants, to black immigrants from West Indies, to Indian people, to Jewish people, to Asian Americans...?

6. Criminality.
"Why are blacks being disproportionately imprisoned? There's a racist Prison Industry Complex!"

The key word here is "disproportionately". Because it most certainly is true that African Americans make out the majority of prisoners in America, but what is the evidence that
this is disproportionate? It's non-existent.

Let's look at the stats:

Black Americans constitute roughly 14% of the population in America, yet they commit 50% of all the murders. But, this is misleading - because it's not the elderly, nor the children nor the women who commit the murders. It's almost exclusively the young men (15-40). That constitutes about a fourth of the black population, which means that about 3.5% of the American population are responsible for 50% of all the murders!

Read this again: 3.5% of Americans are responsible for 50% of all murders.

You will find similar astonishing figures for drug related crimes, armed robberies, breaking and entering and gang violence.

So, even though it is true that black people make up the majority of the prison population, the incarceration rates are only proportionate against the crime rate, not the population.

7. History of slavery, Jim Crow and Red Lining

"Well, that maybe so, but it's because of the history of slavery and Jim Crow!"

I don't doubt the good intentions of those making these arguments, but they don't actually see how it is a classic case of Racism of lower expectations.

No one has been able to provide a logical link between historical racism and the plight of people today.

First of all, what's unique about racism in America (and Britain, for that matter) is that these countries abolished slavery when they did! They were among the first countries in the world to do so, and America even fought a bloody civil war to implement the 13th Amendment. Almost every country in the world practiced slavery, and there are many - particularly in Subsaharan Africa - who still do to this day.

And it most certainly is true that racism didn't end with slavery, and evil practices such as Jim Crow, segregation and Red Lining were practiced until the 70's. But - and here is the most astonishing fact of all - African American's had *more* wealth and less unemployment during those times than today, when such practices have been abolished and are rightly considered moral evils.

Now, before anyone makes the nonsensical claim that "You're saying we should oppress them then, because they had it better!?", let me explain that correlation does not mean causation. But just as facts don't care about feelings, reality won't comply with narrative.

8. "America is a White Supremacist society!"

This is one of the most egregious claims out there. First of all, compared to what? Show me a country where blacks are a minority, but still get to be elected presidents, have more than 50 Mayors, congressmen and women, run city councils and have had multiple presidential candidates. Show me one.

America (and Britain) are two of the least racist societies on earth and in history. For god's sake, look at the response from the murder of George Floyd! Just look at the outpouring of support for black people, the universal condemnation of racism from exactly all corners of the political spectrum, the complete solidarity from every white person with a social media account.
9. "Black Lives Matter"

This is a big one. Because I don't know of many organisations who care less about black lives than Black Lives Matter. 93% of all killings of black people are done by other blacks - BLM are completely silent on this.
BLM has never - not a single time - had a march or campaign black people being killed en massé in places like Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia or Libya.

Instead, what they have done is to have chants like "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" (about the police), which inspired a lunatic in Dallas to murder 3 police officers.

During the current riots, a 77 year old, black former Police Captain - David Dorn - was murdered by rioters. BLM has not said a word.

BLM reject Martin Luther King Jr.'s sentiment that people should "...be judged based on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin". If you've actually listened to the "I have a dream" speech, that line is the one which got the loudest cheers and applauses.
BLM believe people who aspire to apply this principle of colour blindness are racists.

Conclusion:

I can go on and on. I've provided my sources below, and I can point to the works of economists and criminologists and historians for further data.
But I don't it will matter - the narrative is too strong, and people are too emotionally invested. Facts don't stand a chance.

People are so keen to use the tragic murder of George Floyd to wave their anti-racism badges and flags. It makes them feel good.
Black friends of mine, who are incredibly successful in their fields, are talking about how they've been victims all their lives, even though they are some of the luckiest people who have ever lived, regardless of race.

All I ask of you, if you're reading this (and I doubt many will, certainly not to the end) is to ask yourself "What if what Amir is saying is true?"

That's all I can hope for.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 02:09 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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Voor de leesbaarheid maar volledig gequote:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 02:19 schreef SpaceOddity het volgende:

#Alllivesmatter.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 02:48 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Echt he! De argumentatie ook! En je kan wel blijven uitleggen waarom het niet klopt maar dan komt de volgende rustig weer met dezelfde non-argumenten. Geen beginnen aan!

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 02:53 schreef SpaceOddity het volgende:

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Welke argumentatie?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 00:25 schreef Enchanter het volgende:

ABL Debates M. Reese Everson on RT: Are RIOTS Justified?

ABL @:scarface88 is het met mij eens

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Op zaterdag 6 juni 2020 23:59 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 02:09 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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Voor de leesbaarheid maar volledig gequote:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 09:11 schreef trippleh het volgende:

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Dat is gewoon racisme. Zoiets mag niet eens wettelijk. Zo zie je maar weer dat extreem links veel op het nazisme lijkt.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 01:50 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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Damn! 75%, dat is wel erg hoog.
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Wow!
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 09:11 schreef trippleh het volgende:

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Dat is gewoon racisme. Zoiets mag niet eens wettelijk. Zo zie je maar weer dat extreem links veel op het nazisme lijkt.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 01:24 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Deze man lijkt aardig slecht geïnformeerd te zijn, en lijkt niet te begrijpen dat institutioneel racisme en individueel racisme niet hetzelfde zijn. Wat wil je hiermee zeggen?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 09:18 schreef opgebaarde het volgende:

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Links? Waar haal je vandaan dat ubereats links is?
Dit is een partij die zoveel mogelijk geld wil verdienen en die bedacht hebben dat ze hiermee keiveel geld kunnen verdienen.

Dit heeft geen ene kut met links te maken. Rechtse gekkie

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 10:17 schreef Immerdebestebob het volgende:
Zijn de donkere mensen die zinnige dingen zeggen alleen uit het Trump-kamp? Of zijn ze er ook onder de democraten?

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Minneapolis businesswoman stands with protesters, even after her store burned down
“This hurts, but watching him lose his life like that, it hurts more, it hurts more than losing my business,” she said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/n(...)burned-down-n1226731

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:02 schreef mosred het volgende:

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Dus eigenlijk moeten zwarte amerikanen protesteren tegen zichzelf?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 02:09 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:

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Voor de leesbaarheid maar volledig gequote:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 09:10 schreef trippleh het volgende:

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Je ziet hier het verschil tussen iemand die intelligent is en iemand die een schreeuwtokkie is. Je ziet aan heel die gezichtsuitdrukking van die vrouw al dat ze er niet veel van begrijpt. Een beetje de tokkie/kortpittige/kozp versie in de US.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:04 schreef spectrumanalyser het volgende:

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Als het gaat om terugbrengen van politiegeweld dan moeten zwarte amerikanen protesteren voor legalisering van drugs en gratis verstrekking van drugs.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:08 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Kan je deze aardig onnavolgbare redenatie ook uitleggen?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:11 schreef spectrumanalyser het volgende:

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nou, al dat zogenaamd racistische politiegeweld gaat in bijna alle gevallen om politieoptreden wegens drugshandel/drugsbezit.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:11 schreef spectrumanalyser het volgende:

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nou, al dat zogenaamd racistische politiegeweld gaat in bijna alle gevallen om politieoptreden wegens drugshandel/drugsbezit. primair gaat de politie af op de drugs, niet de persoon.

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als de verdachte dan begint met schieten naar de politie....

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:06 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Institutioneel racisme is geen ernstig probleem, want zwarte mensen die zwarte mensen dood maken komt veel vaker voor. Is dat de redenatie?

Hartfalen is geen ernstig probleem, want longkanker komt veel vaker voor.

Een beetje dat niveau dus?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:37 schreef TheJanitor het volgende:

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Als 99% van mijn volk dood zou gaan aan longkanker zou ik wel weten waar ik mijn focus op zou leggen. Stoppen met roken.

Hartfalen komt daarna wel, als dat dan nog een probleem is.

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Op zaterdag 6 juni 2020 23:59 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:06 schreef Ronald het volgende:

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Ik vond het al een dubieus bedrijf waarbij de bezorgers financieel uitgeknepen worden, maar nu nog een extra reden om hun niet meer te gebruiken.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 09:18 schreef opgebaarde het volgende:

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Links? Waar haal je vandaan dat ubereats links is?
Dit is een partij die zoveel mogelijk geld wil verdienen en die bedacht hebben dat ze hiermee keiveel geld kunnen verdienen.

Dit heeft geen ene kut met links te maken. Rechtse gekkie

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:08 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Je kunt inderdaad beter gaan voor een andere broker waar restaurants en / of personeel worden uitgeknepen.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:09 schreef heywoodu het volgende:

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Je kunt toch prima gewoon bij een eettent zelf bestellen?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:08 schreef trippleh het volgende:

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O nee? Dit zijn praktijken die antifa bedacht zou kunnen hebben. En laat die organisatie nou extreem links/nazi zijn.

Dit is gewoon gewoon rassen discrimineren en dus racisme, links gekkie.
En "keiveel geld verdienen", dit is gewoon bedacht door een idioot met een blm waas voor zijn ogen , een niet-gehandicapte zal deze zaak boycotten, zowel als ondernemer als klant. Ik neem aan dat veel blanke en ook zwarten dit zullen doen.

Wat als McDonalds nou morgen zou beslissen dat alle blanke klanten 20% korting krijgen? Is het dan ook een ludieke actie om meer geld te kunnen verdienen?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:08 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Je kunt inderdaad beter gaan voor een andere broker waar restaurants en / of personeel worden uitgeknepen.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 11:06 schreef probeer het volgende:

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Institutioneel racisme is geen ernstig probleem, want zwarte mensen die zwarte mensen dood maken komt veel vaker voor. Is dat de redenatie?

Hartfalen is geen ernstig probleem, want longkanker komt veel vaker voor.

Een beetje dat niveau dus?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:15 schreef TheoddDutchGuy het volgende:

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Rare vergelijking, slaat kant noch wal.

Hartfalen is geen ernstig probleem want de mensen vreten zichzelf het ziekenhuis in dus eigen schuld dikke bult.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:18 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Institutioneel racisme binnen het justitieel apparaat en gigantische sociaal-economische verschillen (en dus criminaliteit) zijn twee zijden van dezelfde medaille.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:27 schreef TheoddDutchGuy het volgende:

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Alleen is er geen sprake van het eerste.

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Alle cijfers laten maar 1 ding zien, het zijn blanken die vooral worden gepakt/gedood door politie

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en tientallen keren meer kans lopen om overvallen en/of vermoord te worden
door met name zwarte Amerikanen dan andersom. (Op basis van cijfers verzameld door the department of justice uit 2010)

Ook zwarte Amerikanen zelf lopen vooral risico om gedood te worden door andere zwarte Amerikanen het zogenaamde black on black violence, waar zo min mogelijk over gerapporteerd word.

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Waar hier sprake van is, is structureel slachtoffertje spelen, mede dankzij de Amerikaanse media wat helemaal full retard op de uitzonderingen in gaat en breed uitmeet alsof politiegeweld tegen zwarte Amerikanen aan de orde van de dag is.

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Het helpt natuurlijk niet mee dat zwarte Amerikanen relatief vaak crimineel zijn, dan ga je jezelf als het ware ook wat vaker terugzien in bepaalde cijfers.

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Maar het is klinkklare en aantoonbare onzin dat er sprake zou zijn van racisme jegens zwarte Amerikanen door politie.

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The Washington post houd sinds 2015 bij wie er gearresteerd word, wie er doodgeschoten word door politie en de reden waarom, en/of de agent in kwestie bijv buiten zijn of haar boekje is gegaan etcetc.

Wat blijkt? Ongewapende Zwarte Amerikanen zijn nog nooit zo veilig geweest als vandaag de dag.

Bovenstaande heb ik nou al een paar keer herhaald hier op het forum, maar de feiten moeten echt zo vaak mogelijk benoemd worden.

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Niet dat men wil luisteren, nee, de blanke boze man is de racist want een andere conclusie mag er niet zijn.. krijg ik tenminste meer en meer het gevoel als ik zo op internet de discussie zie ontwikkelen.

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Op donderdag 4 juni 2020 14:33 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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A 2017 study of 4.5 million traffic stops by the 100 largest police departments in North Carolina found that blacks and Latinos were more likely to be searched than whites (5.4 percent, 4.1 percent and 3.1 percent, respectively), even though searches of white motorists were more likely than the others to turn up contraband (whites: 32 percent, blacks: 29 percent, Latinos: 19 percent).
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.05376.pdf

According to the Justice Department, between 2012 and 2014, black people in Ferguson, Mo., accounted for 85 percent of vehicle stops, 90 percent of citations and 93 percent of arrests, despite comprising 67 percent of the population. Blacks were more than twice as likely as whites to be searched after traffic stops, even though they proved to be 26 percent less likely to be in possession of illegal drugs or weapons. Between 2011 and 2013, blacks also received 95 percent of jaywalking tickets and 94 percent of tickets for “failure to comply.” The Justice Department also found that the racial discrepancy for speeding tickets increased dramatically when researchers looked at tickets based on only an officer’s word vs. tickets based on objective evidence, such as vs. radar. Black people facing similar low-level charges as white people were 68 percent less likely to see those charges dismissed in court. More than 90 percent of the arrest warrants stemming from failure to pay/failure to appear were issued for black people.
https://www.justice.gov/s(...)epartment_report.pdf

A study of “investigatory” traffic stops — that is, stops that did not result in a citation — by police in Kansas City found that blacks were 2.7 times more likely to be pulled over in an investigatory stop, and five times more likely to be searched.
https://www.kcur.org/show(...)ce-practice#stream/0

A study of stop and frisk incidents in Boston between 2007 and 2010 that did not result in a citation or arrest found that 63 percent of such stops were of black people. Blacks made up 24 percent of the city’s population. Incredibly, 97.5 percent of these encounters resulted in no arrest or seizure of contraband.
https://www.aclum.org/sit(...)own-and-targeted.pdf

A 2015 statistical analysis of police shootings from 2011 to 2014 found that the racial disparity in police shootings of black people could not be explained by higher crime rates in majority-black communities.
http://journals.plos.org/(...)journal.pone.0141854

a study published in June reviewed every reported homicide between 1976 and 2009 and found that “homicides with white victims are significantly more likely to be ‘cleared’ by the arrest of a suspect than are homicides with minority victims.”
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3202470

Another ACLU study, this time on the use of stop-and-frisk in Milwaukee between 2010 and 2017, found that in nearly half of the more than 700,000 such stops, the police failed to demonstrate reasonable suspicion as required by the Constitution. The study found that between pedestrian stops and traffic stops, black people were six times more likely to be stopped and searched than white people, and that less than 1 percent of those searches turned up any contraband. Here again, while black and Latino drivers were more likely to be searched, they were 20 percent less likely to be in possession of any contraband.
https://www.aclu.org/blog(...)kee-police-stops-are

A 2017 study of interactions between officers and citizens taken from footage captured by police officer body cameras found that “officers speak with consistently less respect toward black versus white community members, even after controlling for the race of the officer, the severity of the infraction, the location of the stop, and the outcome of the stop.”
http://www.pnas.org/conte(...)/1702413114.full.pdf

An NAACP survey of citizen complaints against police officers in North Charleston, S.C., between 2006 and 2016 found that complaints by white citizens were about two-thirds more likely to be sustained than complaints filed by black citizens. When the complainant alleged excessive force, white complaints were sustained seven times more often than black complaints.
http://www.naacpldf.org/f(...)AL%20July%202017.pdf

According to a Justice Department study released in 2013, throughout the United States, black drivers are about 30 percent more likely to be pulled over than white drivers. Black drivers are also more likely to be pulled over for alleged mechanical or equipment problems with their automobiles, or for record checks. White people are actually more likely to get pulled over for noticeable traffic violations such as speeding. Black drivers are more likely to not be told why they were pulled over.
https://www.washingtonpos(...)=lk_inline_manual_41

In 2016, the ACLU of Florida released a report that found that black drivers in that state were twice as likely to be pulled over for seat-belt violations as white drivers.
https://www.aclu.org/repo(...)belt-law-enforcement

data from New York City showed that black people are arrested for marijuana at eight times the rate of white people. In Manhattan, it’s 15 times as much. Black neighborhoods produce far more arrests than white neighborhoods, despite data showing a similar rate at which residents complain about marijuana use.
https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)erage&pgtype=Article®ion=Footer

A 2014 ACLU survey of SWAT teams across the country found that “dynamic entry” and paramilitary police tactics are disproportionately used against black and Latino people. Most of these raids were on people suspected of low-level drug crimes.
https://www.aclu.org/site(...)-report-web-rel1.pdf

In contrast to the assertion that blacks are more likely to be arrested because they’re more likely to use drugs in public, a 2002 study of narcotics search warrants in the San Diego area — that is, warrants to search for drugs in private homes — found that black and Hispanic residents were “significantly over-represented as targets of narcotics search warrants,” even after adjusting for usage rates. The study also found that “searches of White suspects were more successful in recovering the targeted drug than were searches of either Black or Hispanic suspects.”
http://faculty.cwsl.edu/b(...)csSearchWarrants.pdf

According to figures from the National Registry of Exonerations (NER) black people are about five times more likely to go to prison for drug possession than white people. According to exoneration data, black people are also 12 times more likely to be wrongly convicted of drug crimes.
http://www.law.umich.edu/(...)gful_Convictions.pdf

When Harris County, Tex., saw a flaw in how drug testing was conducted at its crime lab, officials went back and exonerated dozens of people who had been wrongly convicted for possession — most pleaded guilty, despite their innocence. This is because prosecutors often promise harsher sentences or more charges for defendants who take a case to trial. Black people comprise 20 percent of the Harris County population but made up 62 percent of the wrongful drug convictions.
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/03/07/report/

Black people comprise about 12.5 percent of drug users but 29 percent of arrests for drug crimes and 33 percent of those incarcerated.
https://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/

Blacks were also three times as likely to get hit with — and made up two-thirds of — the sentencing enhancements for committing drug crimes near a school zone, church, park or public housing. In all, when blacks and whites committed similar drug crimes, blacks on average received a sentence that was two-thirds longer. In some parts of the state, it was two or three times longer.
http://projects.heraldtribune.com/bias/bauer/

An analysis of drug war data by the Vera Institute of Justice published this year found that “the risk of incarceration in the federal system for someone who uses drugs monthly and is black is more than seven times that of his or her white counterpart.”
https://storage.googleapi(...)cial-disparities.pdf

A study of criminal cases from 1983 and 1993 found that prosecutors in Philadelphia removed 52 percent of potential black jurors vs. only 23 percent of nonblack jurors.
https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty

Between 2003 and 2012, prosecutors in Caddo Parish, La. — one of the most aggressive death penalty counties in the country — struck 46 percent of prospective black jurors with preemptory challenges, vs. 15 percent of nonblacks.
https://blackstrikes.com/(...)rish_August_2015.pdf

Between 1994 and 2002, Jefferson Parish prosecutors struck 55 percent of blacks, but just 16 percent of whites. Although blacks make up 23 percent of the population, 80 percent of criminal trials had no more than two black jurors in a state where it takes only 10 of 12 juror votes to convict.
https://www.newyorker.com(...)-strike-black-jurors & https://eji.org/sites/def(...)n-jury-selection.pdf

A 2011 study from Michigan State University College of Law found that between 1990 and 2010, state prosecutors struck about 53 percent of black people eligible for juries in criminal cases, vs. about 26 percent of white people. The study’s authors concluded that the chance of this occurring in a race-neutral process was less than 1 in 10 trillion. Even after adjusting for excuses given by prosecutors that tend to correlate with race, the 2-to-1 discrepancy remained. The state legislature had previously passed a law stating that death penalty defendants who could demonstrate racial bias in jury selection could have their sentences changed to life without parole. The legislature later repealed that law.
1.https://digitalcommons.la(...)1330&context=facpubs
2. https://deathpenaltyinfo.(...)e-act-ruling-summary
3. https://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2009/Bills/Senate/PDF/S461v6.pdf
4. https://edition.cnn.com/2(...)h-penalty/index.html

In a 2010 study, “mock jurors” were given the same evidence from a fictional robbery case but then shown alternate security camera footage depicting either a light-skinned or dark-skinned suspect. Jurors were more likely to evaluate ambiguous, race-neutral evidence against the dark-skinned suspect as incriminating and more likely to find the dark-skinned suspect guilty.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1601615

While white people make up less than half of the country’s murder victims, a 2003 study by Amnesty International found that about 80 percent of the people on death row in the United States killed a white person.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/AMR51/046/2003/en/

A 2012 study of Harris County, Tex., cases found that people who killed white victims were 2.5 times more likely to be sentenced to the death penalty than other killers.

In Delaware, according to a 2012 study, “black defendants who kill white victims are seven times as likely to receive the death penalty as are black defendants who kill black victims. … Moreover, black defendants who kill white victims are more than three times as likely to be sentenced to death as are white defendants who kill white victims.”
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2019913

A study of death penalty rates of black perpetrators/white victims vs. white perpetrators/black victims through 1999 showed similar discrepancies. Interestingly, the study found that blacks are underrepresented on death row in proportion to the proportion of murders they commit. But this is largely because most black murderers kill other black people, and prosecutors are far less likely to seek the death penalty when the victim is black.
https://scholarship.law.c(...)=1240&context=facpub

A study of North Carolina murder cases from 1980 through 2007 found that murderers who kill white people are three times more likely to get the death penalty than murderers who kill black people.
https://scholarship.law.u(...)le=4522&context=nclr

A 2000 study commissioned by then-Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) found that the state had, as of that time, never executed a white person for killing a black person
http://www.elon.edu/docs/e-web/law/law_review/Issues/Slobogin.pdf

According to a 2002 study commissioned by then-Gov. Frank O’Bannon (D), Indiana had executed only one person for killing a nonwhite victim, and though 47 percent of homicides in the state involved nonwhite victims, just 16 percent of the state’s death sentences did.
https://www.in.gov/ipdc/f(...)0death%20penalty.pdf

A 2014 study looking at 33 years of data found that after adjusting for variables such as the number of victims and brutality of the crimes, jurors in Washington state were 4.5 times more likely to impose the death penalty on black defendants accused of aggravated murder than on white ones.

A 2014 study looking at 33 years of data found that after adjusting for variables such as the number of victims and brutality of the crimes, jurors in Washington state were 4.5 times more likely to impose the death penalty on black defendants accused of aggravated murder than on white ones.
https://files.deathpenalt(...)ashRaceStudy2014.pdf

Black people are also more likely to be wrongly convicted of murder when the victim was white. Only about 15 percent of people killed by black people were white, but 31 percent of black exonorees were wrongly convicted of killing white people. More generally, black people convicted of murder are 50 percent more likely to be innocent than white people convicted of murder.
http://www.law.umich.edu/(...)gful_Convictions.pdf

Innocent black people are also 3.5 times more likely than white people to be wrongly convicted of sexual assault and 12 times more likely to be wrongly convicted of drug crimes. (And remember, data on wrongful convictions is limited in that it can only consider the wrongful convictions we know about.)
https://www.vox.com/polic(...)ocence-prison-racism

A 2000 study of federal cases found that federal prosecutors were about 50 percent more likely to offer a plea bargain to white murder suspects than black suspects that allowed them to avoid the death penalty.
https://www.washingtonpos(...)=lk_inline_manual_96

A 2006 Stanford report found that when a black person was accused of killing a white person, defendants with darker skin and more “stereotypically black” features were twice as likely to receive a death sentence. When the victim was black, there was almost no difference.
https://news.stanford.edu/news/2006/may3/deathworthy-050306.html

A 2016 study found that in Louisiana, killers of white victims were 14 times more likely to be executed than killers of black victims. Black men who killed white women were 30 times more likely to get the death penalty than black men who killed black men. Those convicted of killing white people were also less likely to have their sentences overturned on appeal, and Louisiana hasn’t executed a white person for killing a black person since 1752.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2770761

Studies in other states have produced similar results: In Oklahoma, killers of white women were 9.5 times more likely to get the death penalty than killers of minority men. In Ohio, they were 6 times more likely, and in Florida, 6.5 times more likely.
https://scholarlycommons.(...)le=7615&context=jclc

A 2017 study of about 48,000 criminal cases in Wisconsin showed that white defendants were 25 percent more likely than black defendants to have their most serious charge dismissed in a plea bargain. Among defendants facing misdemeanor charges that could carry a sentence of incarceration, whites were 75 percent more likely to have those charges dropped, dismissed or reduced to a charge that did not include such a punishment.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3036726

A 2016 review of nearly 474,000 criminal cases in Hampton Roads, Va., found that whites were more likely to get plea deals that resulted in no jail time for drug offenses. While facing charges of drug distribution, 48 percent of whites received plea bargains with no jail time, vs. 22 percent of blacks. Among those with prior criminal records who pleaded guilty to robbery, 36 percent of whites got no jail time, vs. 8 percent of blacks.
https://www.yalelawjourna(...)he-effects-of-booker

A 2013 study found that after adjusting for numerous other variables, federal prosecutors were almost twice as likely to bring charges carrying mandatory minimums against black defendants as against white defendants accused of similar crimes.
A 2008 analysis found that black defendants with multiple prior convictions are 28 percent more likely to be charged as “habitual offenders” than white defendants with similar criminal records. The authors conclude that “assessments of dangerousness and culpability are linked to race and ethnicity, even after offense seriousness and prior record are controlled.”
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.(...)79&rep=rep1&type=pdf

A 2007 Harvard study found sentencing discrepancies among black people, depending on the darkness of their skin. The study looked at 67,000 first-time felons in Georgia from 1995 to 2002. The average sentence for white men was 2,689 days. The average for black men was 378 days longer. But light-skinned blacks received sentences of about three and a half months longer than whites. Medium-skinned blacks received a sentence of about a year longer. Dark-skinned blacks received sentences of a year and a half longer.
https://scholar.harvard.e(...)merican-racial-order

A 2011 study of bail in five large U.S. counties found that blacks received $7,000 higher bail than whites for violent crimes, $13,000 higher for drug crimes and $10,000 higher for crimes related to public order. These disparities were calculated after adjusting for the seriousness of the crime, criminal history and other variables.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1990324

A 2011 investigation of presidential pardons by ProPublica found that white federal prisoners are almost four times as likely to receive a pardon than minority federal prisoners.
https://www.propublica.or(...)ons-what-can-be-done

About 16 percent of sexual assaults of white women are committed by black men, but half of the exonerations for sexual assault involve cases in which an eyewitness wrongly identified a black man for the rape of a white woman.
https://time.com/wrongly-convicted/

A study of the pardons granted in Mississippi during former governor Haley Barbour’s tenure found that although blacks make up almost two-thirds of the state’s prison population, they make up fewer than a third of the people to whom Barbour granted clemency. (It is worth noting that this isn’t about the severity of the crime — Barbour pardoned at least eight men who killed their wives or girlfriends.)
https://www.reuters.com/a(...)0120120?feedType=RSS
https://www.cbsnews.com/n(...)r-wives-girlfriends/

A 2015 county-level study of police shootings from 2011 to 2014 found “a significant bias in the killing of unarmed black Americans relative to unarmed white Americans, in that the probability of being black, unarmed, and shot by police is about 3.49 times the probability of being white, unarmed, and shot by police on average.” The study also found “no relationship between county-level racial bias in police shootings and crime rates (even race-specific crime rates), meaning that the racial bias observed in police shootings in this data set is not explainable as a response to local-level crime rates.”
https://journals.plos.org(...)journal.pone.0141854

A 2018 survey of bail practices in Miami and Philadelphia found that “bail judges are racially biased against black defendants, with substantially more racial bias among both inexperienced and part-time judges. We find suggestive evidence that this racial bias is driven by bail judges relying on inaccurate stereotypes that exaggerate the relative danger of releasing black defendants.”
https://university.pretri(...)8e9eef&forceDialog=0

Met droge ogen beweren dat institutioneel racisme niet bestaat is onmogelijk. Ik denk dat je dat aardig als "wegkijken" kan kwalificeren. En let op hè, dit is slechts een selectie.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:37 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Jawel, zie onder.
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Niet zo gek als er 7:1 blanken tot zwarten zijn.
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Niemand ontkent dat de criminaliteit aan de onderkant van de samenleving geen groot probleem is.
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Dat is het wel degelijk. Zie onder.
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Ook als je daarvoor corrigeert zijn zwarten nog steeds veel vaker het slachtoffer van (onnodig en buitensporig) politiegeweld. Zie onder.
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Nee hoor. Wederom: zie onder.
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Wat ik jou zie doen is geen feiten benoemen, maar ontkennen dat er een racismeprobleem is op basis van valse statistieken.
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Zal ik deze nog maar een keer herhalen dan?
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:38 schreef TheoddDutchGuy het volgende:

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Nee, die correctie zit in de cijfers verwerkt qua verhoudingen.

Het klopt simpelweg niet.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:41 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Kom maar met bronnen om dat te ondersteunen. Van de bronnen waar ik me op baseer, die overigens consequent het tegendeel beweren, heb ik je hierboven voorzien.

Zeggen "het klopt simpelweg niet" is wel heel makkelijk.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:47 schreef TheoddDutchGuy het volgende:

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Ik zie dat het artikel vooral gaat over staande gehouden worden, boetes krijgen etc.

Niet zozeer over politiegeweld.
Wellicht dat blanken er vaker onderuit komen, qua boetes, omdat ze zich beter laten representeren, geen idee.

Ik lees daar niet automatisch uit dat er sprake is van institutionele racisme of discriminatie.
Ik ben immers meer voorstander van dat er op een gegeven moment sprake is (of kan zijn) van iets constateren op basis van praktijk en cijfers.
Zoals hoge mate van criminaliteit vanuit minderheden, wat de kans groter maakt dat er sprake is van iets crimineels.

Tegenover etnisch profileren, waar je het vooral over kan hebben als dat dus allemaal niet zo is en toch je als agent of justitie er op zou richten.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:47 schreef TheoddDutchGuy het volgende:

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Ik zie dat het artikel vooral gaat over staande gehouden worden, boetes krijgen etc.

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Niet zozeer over politiegeweld.

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Wellicht dat blanken er vaker onderuit komen, qua boetes, omdat ze zich beter laten representeren, geen idee.

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Ik lees daar niet automatisch uit dat er sprake is van institutionele racisme of discriminatie.
Ik ben immers meer voorstander van dat er op een gegeven moment sprake is (of kan zijn) van iets constateren op basis van praktijk en cijfers.
Zoals hoge mate van criminaliteit vanuit minderheden, wat de kans groter maakt dat er sprake is van iets crimineels.

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Tegenover etnisch profileren, waar je het vooral over kan hebben als dat dus allemaal niet zo is en toch je als agent of justitie er op zou richten.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:18 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Institutioneel racisme binnen het justitieel apparaat en gigantische sociaal-economische verschillen (en dus criminaliteit) zijn twee zijden van dezelfde medaille.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:27 schreef TheoddDutchGuy het volgende:

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Alleen is er geen sprake van het eerste.

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Waar hier sprake van is, is structureel slachtoffertje spelen, mede dankzij de Amerikaanse media wat helemaal full retard op de uitzonderingen in gaat en breed uitmeet alsof politiegeweld tegen zwarte Amerikanen aan de orde van de dag is.

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Maar het is klinkklare en aantoonbare onzin dat er sprake zou zijn van racisme jegens zwarte Amerikanen door politie.

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Niet dat men wil luisteren, nee, de blanke boze man is de racist want een andere conclusie mag er niet zijn.. krijg ik tenminste meer en meer het gevoel als ik zo op internet de discussie zie ontwikkelen.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 13:20 schreef Scrummie2.1 het volgende:
"De politie".

Die zowel zwart als wit kan zijn. Daar gaan je onderzoekjes.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 12:08 schreef trippleh het volgende:

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O nee? Dit zijn praktijken die antifa bedacht zou kunnen hebben. En laat die organisatie nou extreem links/nazi zijn.

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Dit is gewoon gewoon rassen discrimineren en dus racisme, links gekkie.
En "keiveel geld verdienen", dit is gewoon bedacht door een idioot met een blm waas voor zijn ogen , een niet-gehandicapte zal deze zaak boycotten, zowel als ondernemer als klant. Ik neem aan dat veel blanke en ook zwarten dit zullen doen.

Wat als McDonalds nou morgen zou beslissen dat alle blanke klanten 20% korting krijgen? Is het dan ook een ludieke actie om meer geld te kunnen verdienen?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:23 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:
Er is geen wetenschappelijk bewijs

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:23 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:
Institutioneel racisme is een onderbuikgevoel. Er is geen wetenschappelijk bewijs noch zijn er wetten. Wat wel institutioneel racisme is, zijn bijvoorbeeld toelatingseisen voor universtiteiten, waar Aziaten en blanken het onderspit moeten delven ten faveure van zwarten en Hispanics.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:23 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:
Er is geen wetenschappelijk bewijs

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:27 schreef Immerdebestebob het volgende:

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En allerlei quota die ze hier in Nederland ook willen. En dat je bij de TU/e posities hebt die alleen open staan voor vrouwen.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:31 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Jezelf diskwalificeren stap 1.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:32 schreef moby_jones het volgende:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:41 schreef moby_jones het volgende:
"Zwarte mensen worden consistent ten negatieve anders behandeld door instituties vanwege hun ras" bekt toch wat minder lekker dan "institutioneel racisme" moet eerlijk zeggen.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:38 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Daar ga jij weer. Al jouw gelinkte studies gaven aan dat er een verschil was in behandeling. Geen van die gelinkte studies gaven een verklaring, laat staan dat het door "institutioneel racisme" kwam. Het herhalen van jouw punt, en natuurlijk het liefste versterkt met medestanders, maakt jouw punt niet sterker. Natuurlijk kan je dat anders interpreteren als je aan de zijde staat die vindt dat schreeuwen en intimidatie waarheid maakt, maar gelukkig werkt de waarheid niet zo.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:32 schreef moby_jones het volgende:
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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:48 schreef moby_jones het volgende:
Ze hebben wel een verklaring maar die druist in tegen artikel 1 van de grondwet.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 13:20 schreef Scrummie2.1 het volgende:
"De politie".

Die zowel zwart als wit kan zijn. Daar gaan je onderzoekjes.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:47 schreef moby_jones het volgende:
Affirmative action is er om ervoor te zorgen dat bepaalde beroepen/instituten een klein beetje meer overeenkomen met de daadwerkelijke samenstelling van de samenleving omdat sommige instituties daar een beetje institutioneel moeite mee hebben zeg maar.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:47 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Gelukkig heb jij een solide alternatieve verklaring voor de geobserveerde verschillen in behandeling.

Oh nee, wacht. Die heb je niet. Je roept alleen maar wat.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:55 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Die heb ik al eerder gegeven. Maar goed, jij hebt een hypothese, ga maar testen

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:54 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Niets werkt als ontkrachtend als het product zijn als een product zijn van affirmative action zijn. Dat je altijd met het stigma rond moet lopen dat je ergens zit vanwege je huidskleur, en niet je eigen kunnen.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:56 schreef Isdatzo het volgende:

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Ah ja, dat was de "ze gedragen zich vast anders", toch? Daar hebben we het al over gehad (= kunnen afserveren).

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:58 schreef moby_jones het volgende:

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Als je afgewezen wordt vanwege je huidskleur/afkomst ben je net zo goed beoordeelt op je huidskleur maar zit je zonder baan. Ik denk toch dat ik de andere optie prefereer.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:58 schreef Barbusse het volgende:
"marxistische white supremacist", jezuschristustehobbelpaard

Ik weet dat het zondag is, maar is het niet wat vroeg om je vodka aan te zoeten met crack?

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 14:53 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:00 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Als je iemand aanneemt vanwege zijn huidskleur, heb je iemand anders afgewezen vanwege zijn huidskleur. "I used the racism to destroy the racism" - Thanos

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:06 schreef Barbusse het volgende:
Het is zinloos om in discussie te gaan met een volbloed wetenschapsontkenner

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:05 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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flauw

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:06 schreef moby_jones het volgende:

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Als een werkvloer met werknemers die min of meer overeenkomen met wat je van de samenstelling van de bevolking zou verwachten even racistisch is als werkplaatsen waar je als zwarte persoon niet aangenomen kan worden dan heb ik stiekem toch een voorkeur voor optie 1

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:07 schreef Dejannn het volgende:

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Zoiets zie je volgens mij ook terug bij de Asian Americans als ik mij niet vergis, diens SAT scores worden naar beneden bijgesteld omdat ze anders te hoog zouden scoren . Dit waar hispanics en vooral blacks juist bonuspunten krijgen.

Werkelijk waar te belachelijk voor woorden natuurlijk, al dit soort idioterie wordt gevoed door een utopisch denkbeeld waarin de maatschappij geperfectioneerd kan worden naar een situatie waar alles precies gelijk en eerlijk is. Een zeer eng socialistisch gedachtengoed.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:09 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Niet zo flauw als zeggen er zijn ook wat zwarte mensen bij de politie dus daar gaan al je wetenschappelijke onderzoeken naar institutioneel racisme.

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:11 schreef moby_jones het volgende:
De meerderheid van Asian Americans die afgewezen werden van Harvard kwamen door legacy admissions, mag je 1-2-3 raden welke bevolkingsgroep in America het merendeel van Harvard Allumni heeft in de laatste 400 jaar

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Op zondag 7 juni 2020 15:12 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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20% volgens mij

blm is ook niet zwart tegen wit maar zwart tegen blauw

althans dat was het ooit voor idioten de boel overnamen