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Ook Giuliani blijft zijn aandacht op Biden richten:
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En de volgende impeachment-getuige is aan de beurt ter afrekening:twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op donderdag 06-02-2020 om 22:40:17 Giuliani is planning on "ramping up" his investigations into the Bidens. "It's a matter of the fair administration of justice for real," he told The Daily Beast.Giuliani did not go into details regarding what these continued private probes would entail. https://t.co/lqR32wjWxW reageer retweet
Giuliani is planning on "ramping up" his investigations into the Bidens. "It's a matter of the fair administration of justice for real," he told The Daily Beast.Giuliani did not go into details regarding what these continued private probes would entail. twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op vrijdag 07-02-2020 om 04:50:38 Bloomberg News: The W.H. is weighing a plan to dismiss Alexander Vindman from the National Security Council after he testified in Trump's impeachment inquiry, preparing to position the move as part of an effort to shrink the foreign policy bureaucracy. https://t.co/01RaAm6Ovk reageer retweet
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Logisch. Vindman was degene die lekte naar Ciaramella.quote:Op vrijdag 7 februari 2020 04:58 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Ook Giuliani blijft zijn aandacht op Biden richten:En de volgende impeachment-getuige is aan de beurt ter afrekening:twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op donderdag 06-02-2020 om 22:40:17 Giuliani is planning on "ramping up" his investigations into the Bidens. "It's a matter of the fair administration of justice for real," he told The Daily Beast.Giuliani did not go into details regarding what these continued private probes would entail. https://t.co/lqR32wjWxW reageer retweettwitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op vrijdag 07-02-2020 om 04:50:38 Bloomberg News: The W.H. is weighing a plan to dismiss Alexander Vindman from the National Security Council after he testified in Trump's impeachment inquiry, preparing to position the move as part of an effort to shrink the foreign policy bureaucracy. https://t.co/01RaAm6Ovk reageer retweet
"He has shredded the truth in his speech, he shredded the Constitution in his conduct, I shredded the state of his mind address" - Nancy Pelosiquote:
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Maar dat is volgens je eigen maatstaven geen bewijs tochquote:Op vrijdag 7 februari 2020 05:08 schreef Sjemmert het volgende:
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Logisch. Vindman was degene die lekte naar Ciaramella.
En zelfs al zou het waar zijn: het melden van strafbare feiten is in het belang van de maatschappij en geen reden om iemand te straffen. Het is een ordinaire afrekening, dat blijkt wel uit het feit dat er een excuus voor verzonnen moet worden.
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Welke strafbare feiten ?quote:Op vrijdag 7 februari 2020 05:17 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
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Maar dat is volgens je eigen maatstaven geen bewijs toch
En zelfs al zou het waar zijn: het melden van strafbare feiten is in het belang van de maatschappij.
Volgens een poll van The Hill/HarrisX zou de opkomst bij de verkiezingen momenteel 62% zijn. Dat is nog steeds verontrustend laag maar in vergelijking met 2016 zit er tenminste enige stijging in, toen was het namelijk 55% of daaromtrent. Waarbij wel opgemerkt moet worden dat het laatste cijfer natuurlijk een exit poll betreft, terwijl nu nog niet eens duidelijk is wie de kandidaat gaat worden bij de Dems.
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quote:Using the powers of his high office, President Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election. He did so through a scheme or course of conduct that included soliciting the Government of Ukraine to publicly announce investigations that would benefit his reelection, harm the election prospects of a political opponent, and influence the 2020 United States Presidential election to his advantage. President Trump also sought to pressure the Government of Ukraine to take these steps by conditioning official United States Government acts of significant value to Ukraine on its public announcement of the investigations. President Trump engaged in this scheme or course of conduct for corrupt purposes in pursuit of personal political benefit. In so doing, President Trump used the powers of the Presidency in a manner that compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process. He thus ignored and injured the interests of the Nation.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
De never Trumpers vinden het prachtig ja. Maar in de realiteit jaagt ze met haar kinderachtige actie de laatste gematigde kiezers in de handen van de Republikeinen. Kijk de like/dislike ratio van dat filmpje maar na, en dat voor een links leunend media kanaal. Het hele impeachment circus eindigt gewoon in een dikke win voor Trump. Ondertussen worden de Bidens flink onderzocht momenteel. Als Durham zijn rapport nog uit komt voor de verkiezingen is het helemaal gedaan.quote:Op vrijdag 7 februari 2020 05:12 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
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"He has shredded the truth in his speech, he shredded the Constitution in his conduct, I shredded the state of his mind address" - Nancy Pelosi
C-SPAN Caller From PA Says It's "Horrible" That Nancy Pelosi Ripped Up President Trump's SOTU Speech
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Impeached and acquitted door een corrupte Senaat.quote:
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Die mevrouw was al overgestapt naar de GOP, beide reppen met geen woord over de geweigerde handdruk of de inhoud van zijn baggerspeech maar maken zich wel druk maken over het verscheuren ervan. Nou boeiend hoorquote:
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De never Trumpers vinden het prachtig ja. Maar in de realiteit jaagt ze met haar kinderachtige actie de laatste gematigde kiezers in de handen van de Republikeinen. Kijk de like/dislike ratio van dat filmpje maar na, en dat voor een links leunend media kanaal. Het hele impeachment circus eindigt gewoon in een dikke win voor Trump. Ondertussen worden de Bidens flink onderzocht momenteel. Als Durham zijn rapport nog uit komt voor de verkiezingen is het helemaal gedaan.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
We zullen zien in November.quote:
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Die mevrouw was al overgestapt naar de GOP, beide reppen met geen woord over de geweigerde handdruk of de inhoud van zijn baggerspeech maar maken zich wel druk maken over het verscheuren ervan. Nou boeiend hoor
Oh ik verwacht dat Trump een hele goede kans maakt hoor, er zijn hele hordes mensen tegenwoordig die er blijkbaar geen enkele moeite mee hebben om op een autoritaire, incompetente, corrupte, narcistische, rancuneuze en voortdurend liegende president te stemmen. Ik heb alleen een heel andere opvatting over de eigenschappen waar een president aan moet voldoen.quote:
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Als je niet wil dat er gelekt wordt, moet je zorgen dat er niks is om te lekken.quote:
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Logisch. Vindman was degene die lekte naar Ciaramella.
Tevens: Nunes
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Dat is voor Amerikaanse begrippen echt extreem hoog. Kijk maar naar deze statistieken.quote:Op vrijdag 7 februari 2020 05:59 schreef kladderadatsch het volgende:
Volgens een poll van The Hill/HarrisX zou de opkomst bij de verkiezingen momenteel 62% zijn. Dat is nog steeds verontrustend laag maar in vergelijking met 2016 zit er tenminste enige stijging in, toen was het namelijk 55% of daaromtrent. Waarbij wel opgemerkt moet worden dat het laatste cijfer natuurlijk een exit poll betreft, terwijl nu nog niet eens duidelijk is wie de kandidaat gaat worden bij de Dems.
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
Well schuldig, niet veroordeeld.quote:
Dat is wel een verschil.
"The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.”
Polls ver van te voren zijn vaak hoger. Op het uiteindelijke moment heb je toch met mensen te maken die geen zin of tijd hebben of die zich er niet in hebben verdiept en die dus toch, ondanks goede voornemens, niet komen (al zal het laatste argument, niet verdiept, bij deze verkiezingen met een keus tussen 2 mensen die echt de media domineren in die periode misschien meevallen).quote:
Volgens een poll van The Hill/HarrisX zou de opkomst bij de verkiezingen momenteel 62% zijn. Dat is nog steeds verontrustend laag maar in vergelijking met 2016 zit er tenminste enige stijging in, toen was het namelijk 55% of daaromtrent. Waarbij wel opgemerkt moet worden dat het laatste cijfer natuurlijk een exit poll betreft, terwijl nu nog niet eens duidelijk is wie de kandidaat gaat worden bij de Dems.
Trump lijkt vooral goed in het strijken met de eer van een ander.quote:Republicans sold their souls for so little
Republican senators will vote to acquit President Trump of obvious, serious and certainly impeachable conduct. They have made their pact with the Devil, and there is no turning back. However, on close examination, it sure seems as though they’ve gotten a raw deal.
Republicans’ thinking goes: “Sure, he is a monster, but look at all we got!” Comparing his fabricated account with his actual record, however, one is struck by how little he has done.
The economy grew at a measly 2.1 percent in the last quarter of 2019. The tax cut failed to deliver 3 percent growth (let alone the 4 percent or 5 percent growth that Trump’s supply-side sect promised) and left us drowning in an ocean of debt. For all that debt, we did not get an infrastructure bill, a huge investment in science or education, or much of anything that will jump-start our currently anemic productivity rate. We did not even get his ridiculous wall (only a mile of completely new wall has been built). His entire claim about having turned around the economy is pure nonsense. That is President Barack Obama’s main accomplishment.
Indeed, a surprising number of accomplishments he does claim (e.g. energy independence, most jobs, most deportations) belong to Obama, who, for having done all that, must have been a great president in Republicans’ estimation.
Criminal-justice reform? “Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018. One of the biggest pieces of the First Step Act — a provision that reduced sentences for crack cocaine offenses — was an extension of Obama’s efforts in 2010,” my fact-checking colleagues note. “We gave Three Pinocchios to Trump for claiming that he accomplished what Obama could not.” Once more, no matter how hard he spins, he cannot eradicate his predecessor’s record; he cannot even match it.
Well, conservatives say, look at defense spending! Once more, there is far less than they think they’ve gotten. The $2.2 trillion number Trump touts is not all that impressive. The Post fact-checkers confirm, “On an inflation-adjusted basis, not one year of Trump’s defense budgets has exceeded the high point in 2010 under Obama.” Ironically, despite having a compliant Congress that could have given him practically whatever he wanted on defense spending for two years, he did not significantly change the trajectory of defense spending. Defense News reported recently:
In 2017, the top two officials at the Pentagon — then-Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joe Dunford — testified to Congress that the defense budget needs to have 3-5 percent annual growth over inflation each year through 2023 to ensure America’s military success. ...
The budget is expected to be largely flat, as a two-year budget deal reached last summer calls for $740 billion in defense spending in the next fiscal year, up just $2 billion from the enacted FY20 amount.
“The 3-5 percent goal was reasonable enough and absolutely needed,” said Mackenzie Eaglen, a budget analyst with the American Enterprise Institute. “But it is not happening. The defense top line for 2021 is negative real growth, aka declining.”
No better than Obama. Again.
Well, there are judges! Here, even I got caught up in the spin, in part because progressive groups make it sound as though the entire judiciary has been Trumpified. Yes, thanks to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s stunt with Judge Merrick Garland, Trump got two Supreme Court appointments, but beyond that, the reality is much more modest. His “record” of 187 judges may be a record for only three years, but his impact on the judiciary is still far smaller than his predecessors. The Post fact-checkers report: “Reagan has the record, with 383, followed by Bill Clinton with 378 and then Obama with 329." Should Trump get another term and a compliant Senate, Trump certainly will have the opportunity to best his predecessors, but for now, he has hardly remade the courts. (It is noteworthy that a batch of the judges do not sit on the regular district, circuit or Supreme courts. Almost 20 of his appointees sit on tax, military, veterans claims and other specialty courts.)
To be sure, a replacement for NAFTA was passed. However, the changes in the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) are largely the work of the Democratic House, which insisted on mechanisms for enforcing labor and environmental standards. (The Wall Street Journal groused that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s demands were “never-ending.”)
As with so much that Trump does, the hype dwarfs the reality. His cult gobbles up the cotton candy he spins; the right-wing media chants the state-fed propaganda. (One is reminded of the Soviet industrial plans that the Kremlin insisted always exceeded expectations.)
Trying to disabuse his base and the right-wing punditocracy of his inflated record is doomed to fail. The rest of the country should understand that for all his boasts, Trump’s biggest accomplishment is making the rich (who own the lion share of stocks) much richer. It is in appealing to the concerns of middle-class Americans and promising to protect their health care, address climate change and reduce gun violence that Democrats stand the best chance of victory.
And for those Republicans who have become intellectual and moral pretzels in service of Trump, one recalls the admonition: “It profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. But for Wales?” If only there were a Thomas More or two in the Senate.
Bron: Washington Post
"The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.”
Je aanbidt iemand met contraproductief gedrag?quote:
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"He has shredded the truth in his speech, he shredded the Constitution in his conduct, I shredded the state of his mind address" - Nancy Pelosi
Bijzonder.
Samenvatting van Trump's 'overwinnings'-speech:
Trump celebrates end of impeachment with angry, raw and vindictive 62-minute White House ranttwitter:DanEggenWPost twitterde op vrijdag 07-02-2020 om 00:47:48 “He cursed in the East Room. He called the House speaker a ‘horrible person.’ He lorded his power over a room full of deferential Republicans. He mocked a former GOP presidential nominee and his 2016 Democratic rival. He played the victim again and again.” https://t.co/REgw67aV5q reageer retweet
“He cursed in the East Room. He called the House speaker a ‘horrible person.’ He lorded his power over a room full of deferential Republicans. He mocked a former GOP presidential nominee and his 2016 Democratic rival. He played the victim again and again.” quote:He spoke without a teleprompter. He cursed in the East Room. He called the House speaker a “horrible person.” He lorded his power over a room full of deferential Republicans. He mocked a former GOP presidential nominee and his 2016 Democratic rival. He played the victim again and again.
Two days after President Trump delivered what aides called an “optimistic” State of the Union address that made no mention of his historic impeachment, he ranted for more than an hour at the White House on Thursday in a “celebration” of his Senate acquittal a day earlier. But the mood — at least his mood — was not particularly celebratory.
Trump was angry, raw, vindictive, aggrieved — reflecting the id of a president who has seethed for months with rage against his enemies. This was the State of Trump.
“We had the witch hunt that started from the day we came down the elevator — myself and our future first lady,” Trump said, referring to his campaign announcement at Trump Tower in 2015, during which he and Melania Trump rode down a gold escalator. “And it never really stopped. We’ve been going through this now for over three years. It was evil. It was corrupt. It was dirty cops. It was leakers and liars.”
In sharp contrast with President Bill Clinton — who used a four-minute statement in the Rose Garden in 1999 to apologize and call for “reconciliation” after he was acquitted on impeachment charges — Trump offered no words of regret, insisting, as he has repeatedly, that he did nothing wrong in asking Ukraine’s president to investigate a Democratic rival. The only apology he offered was to his own family, for the “phony, rotten” ordeal that they were put through “by some very evil and very sick people.”Dit trekt vast heel veel kiezers aan en is denk ik ook erg productiefSPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Hoezo is dat contraproductief gedrag? Het doet precies waar het voor gemaakt is.quote:
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Je aanbidt iemand met contraproductief gedrag?
Bijzonder.
Je doet nou net alsof je met ratio en beleefdheid Donald Trump iets kunt maken.
Als je dat nu nog denkt heb je echt niet opgelet.
"The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.”
Ben heel benieuwd wat de gevolgen zijn als Trump wordt herkozen. Hij is een figuur dat wrok koestert en niets liever wil dat zijn tegenstanders terugpakken. Hoe ver worden de mogelijkheden daartoe opgerekt gedurende zijn tweede termijn?quote:Op vrijdag 7 februari 2020 08:45 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Samenvatting van Trump's 'overwinnings'-speech:Trump celebrates end of impeachment with angry, raw and vindictive 62-minute White House ranttwitter:DanEggenWPost twitterde op vrijdag 07-02-2020 om 00:47:48 “He cursed in the East Room. He called the House speaker a ‘horrible person.’ He lorded his power over a room full of deferential Republicans. He mocked a former GOP presidential nominee and his 2016 Democratic rival. He played the victim again and again.” https://t.co/REgw67aV5q reageer retweet
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Dit trekt vast heel veel kiezers aan en is denk ik ook erg productief
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
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