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Toch wat Amerikaanse gewonden. Waarom is dit achter gehouden? Om zich niet in een oorlog te laten storten?twitter:lookner twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 16:43:18 In Trump's address to the nation he said there were no injuries to US troops. So why, a week later, are military officials at the base telling WaPost that dozens of US troops were treated for concussion and 2 were thrown through a window? https://t.co/31u4fN1aQe reageer retweet
In Trump's address to the nation he said there were no injuries to US troops. So why, a week later, are military officials at the base telling WaPost that dozens of US troops were treated for concussion and 2 were thrown through a window?
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Precies, zodra men hoort dat er gewonden zijn staan er mensen op die schreeuwen om wraak.quote:Op dinsdag 14 januari 2020 16:54 schreef trein2000 het volgende:
Toch wat Amerikaanse gewonden. Waarom is dit achter gehouden? Om zich niet in een oorlog te laten storten?twitter:lookner twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 16:43:18 In Trump's address to the nation he said there were no injuries to US troops. So why, a week later, are military officials at the base telling WaPost that dozens of US troops were treated for concussion and 2 were thrown through a window? https://t.co/31u4fN1aQe reageer retweet
Een paar hersenschuddingen en kneuzingen en snijwonden zijn het niet waard om uit wraak Iraniërs te bombarderen lijkt mij.
En ze liegen allemaal, dus dit kan er best bij.
"Bleach is healthy. It's mostly water. And we are mostly water. Therefore, we are bleach."
zou het waar zijn?twitter:blakesmustache twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 15:34:26 So now we know why Pelosi is willing to proceed with the Senate trial. It’s not because she was able to get #MoscowMitch to agree to a fair trial. It’s because #MoscowMitch has lost control of his caucus and doesn’t have the votes to dismiss the case or make it a sham trial. reageer retweet
So now we know why Pelosi is willing to proceed with the Senate trial. It’s not because she was able to get
Lijkt me behoorlijk wishful thinking.quote:zou het waar zijn?twitter:blakesmustache twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 15:34:26 So now we know why Pelosi is willing to proceed with the Senate trial. It’s not because she was able to get #MoscowMitch to agree to a fair trial. It’s because #MoscowMitch has lost control of his caucus and doesn’t have the votes to dismiss the case or make it a sham trial. reageer retweet
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Gisteravond kwam het al voorbij, in het Witte Huis is het mogelijk iets dat ze verwachten;quote:
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Lijkt me behoorlijk wishful thinking.
https://www.cbsnews.com/n(...)esses-senate-trial/#
"Bleach is healthy. It's mostly water. And we are mostly water. Therefore, we are bleach."
quote:zou het waar zijn?twitter:blakesmustache twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 15:34:26 So now we know why Pelosi is willing to proceed with the Senate trial. It’s not because she was able to get #MoscowMitch to agree to a fair trial. It’s because #MoscowMitch has lost control of his caucus and doesn’t have the votes to dismiss the case or make it a sham trial. reageer retweet
Ja hoor het is waar. McConnell gaat het proces in de Senaat niet gelijk afserveren en de kans dat er getuigen gehoord worden is nu met 4 Republikeinde stemmen voor behoorlijk groot.quote:
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Lijkt me behoorlijk wishful thinking.
McConnell unlikely to pursue dismissal vote on impeachment articles
There's little appetite from Republicans with tough re-election fights for a vote to dismiss the charges against Trump outright.
Edit: uiteindelijk zal Trump natuurlijk niet veroordeeld worden maar er komt iig iets wat lijkt op een proces.quote:While President Donald Trump has tweeted that he would like to see the Senate dismiss the impeachment articles against him ahead of a trial, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is unlikely to hold such a vote.
That's because there is little appetite from Republican members facing difficult re-election races in 2020 to cast a vote that could be seen as overly protective of the president, GOP aides and senators say.
Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., would like to see "2020 Republican incumbents in tough voting situations. So I think recognizing that that's his goal, I think it won't surprise you that we're thinking about that too, and how to avoid that as much as possible."
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
De vraag is natuurlijk welke getuigen. De kans dat Bolton gehoord wordt is best groot omdat een aantal Republikeinen aangegeven hebben daar voor te stemmen maar of Mulvaney gehoord wordt is vooralsnog onduidelijk.twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 17:40:10 Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "The next step is simple. The Senate should conduct a fair trial. A fair trial involves witnesses and documents. What is the president hiding from the American people?" https://t.co/Kl2W7LsyB0 reageer retweet
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries: "The next step is simple. The Senate should conduct a fair trial. A fair trial involves witnesses and documents. What is the president hiding from the American people?" Bovendien is er het probleem van de geblokkeerde documenten. Worden die in zijn totaal vrijgegeven of gaan de Republikeinen daaruit cherrypicken?
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Het is maar de vraag of er getuigen komen nu McConnell kan spinnen dat het niet meteen afserveren van de aanklachten betekent dat het al een eerlijk proces is.
Hij heeft een punt. Ik zie het McConnell nog wel proberen.twitter:ThePlumLineGS twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 16:08:06 Don't get snowed. Senate Republicans are nixing immediate dismissal of charges against Trump to lay the groundwork to spin a witness-free trial as fair by reverse-comparison. You can see it in their quotes. Same goes for their other "offers." New piece: https://t.co/51yvvg5Xcr reageer retweet
Don't get snowed. Senate Republicans are nixing immediate dismissal of charges against Trump to lay the groundwork to spin a witness-free trial as fair by reverse-comparison. You can see it in their quotes. Same goes for their other "offers." New piece:
twitter:SpeakerPelosi twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 18:38:07 Ten years after the Supreme Court delivered its disastrous Citizens United decision, Democrats are coming together to call on Leader McConnell to end his blockade of the #ForThePeople Act, and other House-passed reforms. https://t.co/aNAEXYZS1e reageer retweet
Ten years after the Supreme Court delivered its disastrous Citizens United decision, Democrats are coming together to call on Leader McConnell to end his blockade of the
Heb er ook een hard hoofd in dat het ook maar enigszins relevante getuigen en documenten zal krijgen. Maar we zullen zien.quote:
Het is maar de vraag of er getuigen komen nu McConnell kan spinnen dat het niet meteen afserveren van de aanklachten betekent dat het al een eerlijk proces is.Hij heeft een punt. Ik zie het McConnell nog wel proberen.twitter:ThePlumLineGS twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 16:08:06 Don't get snowed. Senate Republicans are nixing immediate dismissal of charges against Trump to lay the groundwork to spin a witness-free trial as fair by reverse-comparison. You can see it in their quotes. Same goes for their other "offers." New piece: https://t.co/51yvvg5Xcr reageer retweet
Ze houden iig de schijn nog wel op maar idd Bolton kan natuurlijk alsnog de mond gesnoerd worden door hem één of andere privilage op te leggen.
twitter:BillKristol twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 18:46:55 White House spox: “The president is not afraid of a fight. And if you or anyone within the sound of our voices have been falsely accused of a crime, with no proof, and no evidence, for more than three years, you'd want every witness to come forward too...” https://t.co/dj4qRTefLh reageer retweet
White House spox: “The president is not afraid of a fight. And if you or anyone within the sound of our voices have been falsely accused of a crime, with no proof, and no evidence, for more than three years, you'd want every witness to come forward too...”
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
Zoiets gewoon een stralen gezicht roepen, terwijl het Witte Huis alles in het werk heeft gesteld om te voorkomen dat getuigen hun verhaal doen.quote:Op dinsdag 14 januari 2020 19:38 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Ze houden iig de schijn nog wel op maar idd Bolton kan natuurlijk alsnog de mond gesnoerd worden door hem één of andere privilage op te leggen.twitter:BillKristol twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 18:46:55 White House spox: “The president is not afraid of a fight. And if you or anyone within the sound of our voices have been falsely accused of a crime, with no proof, and no evidence, for more than three years, you'd want every witness to come forward too...” https://t.co/dj4qRTefLh reageer retweet
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
Overigens spelen Trump en consorten het best slim. Als je van de daken blijft schreeuwen dat je onschuldig bent, gaan mensen het vanzelf geloven. Zeker in een sterk gepolariseerd politiek landschap.
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r
Soros bijvoorbeeld.quote:
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Tot het natuurlijk tegen jouw ideologie werkt, dan moet er natuurlijk wel wat aan gedaan worden
Het antwoord op de belangrijkste vraag van alle vragen? 42!
En hoe is dit geen propaganda of censuur?quote:
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Precies, zodra men hoort dat er gewonden zijn staan er mensen op die schreeuwen om wraak.
Een paar hersenschuddingen en kneuzingen en snijwonden zijn het niet waard om uit wraak Iraniërs te bombarderen lijkt mij.
Het antwoord op de belangrijkste vraag van alle vragen? 42!
Nah, tenzij je als aartsleugenaar bekend staat.quote:
Overigens spelen Trump en consorten het best slim. Als je van de daken blijft schreeuwen dat je onschuldig bent, gaan mensen het vanzelf geloven. Zeker in een sterk gepolariseerd politiek landschap.
Dat werkt andersom precies hetzelfde. Als men lang genoeg blijft roepen dat ie schuldig is, racist, fascist, nazi, oranje, etc, gaan mensen het vanzelf geloven. Zeker in een sterk gepolariseerd politiek landschap.quote:
Overigens spelen Trump en consorten het best slim. Als je van de daken blijft schreeuwen dat je onschuldig bent, gaan mensen het vanzelf geloven. Zeker in een sterk gepolariseerd politiek landschap.
twitter:blakesmustache twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:04:53 Trump-appointee and Trump transition team member, Judge Trevor McFadden, is doing his best to make sure the House’s case to get Trump’s tax returns from Treasury is delayed until after the election. Good thing SCOTUS will hear the case to get them from Mazars in ~60 days. https://t.co/Jm0GkaPAev reageer retweet
twitter:lawrencehurley twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 22:26:00 Judge in DC has put a hold on House committee's bid to obtain Trump's tax returns pending DC Circuit ruling in case on whether Don McGahn can be forced to testify (via @JanNWolfe) reageer retweet
Judge in DC has put a hold on House committee's bid to obtain Trump's tax returns pending DC Circuit ruling in case on whether Don McGahn can be forced to testify (via @
Het rommelt...
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:30:04 NEW: The House Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs Committees have transmitted additional evidence to be used as part of the Senate impeachment trial. The evidence provided includes phone records, as well as new docs and materials from Lev Parnas. https://t.co/0EK9L6cCvN reageer retweet
twitter:tribelaw twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:05:24 If Trump were to choose @AlanDersh as trial counsel, that would point to a legally baseless and politically stupid effort to dismiss the impeachment articles on grounds that, if accepted, would destroy our system of checks and balances. Bring it on!https://t.co/m1Yzw0sMqj reageer retweet
If Trump were to choose @quote:WASHINGTON — President Trump’s lawyers are scrambling to assemble their legal team and draft opening statements for a Senate impeachment trial that is expected to start next week and will determine whether to remove the president from office.
As the House prepared to send articles of impeachment to the Senate, Trump’s lawyers have huddled in the Oval Office with their unpredictable client and sought to finalize who will appear on the president’s behalf — and who will advise on the sidelines of only the third presidential impeachment trial in U.S. history.
Despite the looming trial, Trump’s lawyers have not said whether they will seek to call witnesses, or how much time they will need to present their defense. Nor is it clear if Trump will try to bring in outspoken House Republicans who ardently defended him during the impeachment hearings.
The still-unsettled legal strategy adds to the uncertainty of a constitutional process that is rarely used -- and never before with a sitting president running for reelection.
Another wild card is Alan Dershowitz, the constitutional law scholar known for his brash style and high-profile defendants. Dershowitz, who chatted with Trump on Christmas Eve at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s resort in south Florida, could help argue constitutional issues in the Senate, according to one person with knowledge of the discussions who spoke on condition of anonymity.
It would be a quintessential Trump decision, embracing a TV-savvy attorney who has defended him on Fox News while ignoring the unease that Dershowitz has generated among some Republicans on Capitol Hill because of his association with the late Jeffrey Epstein, the wealthy pedophile who rubbed shoulders with powerful figures in politics and academia.
Dershowitz has denied any wrongdoing in that case, and he declined to comment about a possible role in the impeachment trial.
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:05:06 Laurence Tribe: Barr and Trump could permanently alter the balance of power among the branches of government."If those views take hold, we will have lost what was won in the Revolution—we will have a Chief Executive who is more powerful than the king." https://t.co/ZgHAFIFq5J reageer retweet
twitter:tribelaw twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:11:22 It’ll be interesting and revealing if the only defense witnesses the Trump lawyers try to call are folks like Hunter Biden, who have no logical relevance to the charges against President Trump. That would strongly suggest what’s increasingly emerging: Trump has no defense at all. reageer retweet
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Draadje:
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twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:30:04 NEW: The House Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs Committees have transmitted additional evidence to be used as part of the Senate impeachment trial. The evidence provided includes phone records, as well as new docs and materials from Lev Parnas. https://t.co/0EK9L6cCvN reageer retweet
Uit de documenten van Lev Parnas:twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:40:16 "Parnas produced handwritten notes on stationery from the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Vienna, Austria that appear directly related to the President's scheme ... One hand-written note states: * get Zalensky [sic] to Annonce [sic] that the Biden case will Be Investigated" https://t.co/ZNXdSDl4Ga reageer retweet
Draadje:
twitter:OrinKerr twitterde op woensdag 15-01-2020 om 00:35:15 "Just to be precise, I represent Trump in his personal capacity, not as President of the United States." Note to reader: People in their personal capacities do not exercise the foreign policy of the United States. https://t.co/cAoC0A1QYK reageer retweet
"Just to be precise, I represent Trump in his personal capacity, not as President of the United States." Note to reader: People in their personal capacities do not exercise the foreign policy of the United States. 
twitter:NatashaBertrand twitterde op dinsdag 14-01-2020 om 23:42:09 Um holy sh*t. This certainly makes it sound like Parnas and co. were actively tracking Yovanovitch's movements. This could explain why Yovanovitch was moved out of Ukraine so quickly. https://t.co/4rBRB06ZGN https://t.co/5Gc8WcGPih reageer retweet
Um holy sh*t. This certainly makes it sound like Parnas and co. were actively tracking Yovanovitch's movements. This could explain why Yovanovitch was moved out of Ukraine so quickly. twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op woensdag 15-01-2020 om 00:15:33 "In March 2019, Mr. Parnas communicated by text message with Robert F. Hyde ... Hyde then sent a series of text messages suggesting that he had Ambassador Yovanovitch under physical surveillance in Kyiv and that 'They are willing to help if we/you would like a price.'" https://t.co/ZNXdSDl4Ga reageer retweet
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
