SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Cabinet-level officials:SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Andere kopstukken:SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Verdwenen of voormalige kopstukken:SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Race voor het Huis:
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POL / Amerikaans Buitenlandbeleid: Trump de onderhandelaarI hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Publiek barst in lachen uit, vid in tweet:twitter:adamcbest twitterde op zaterdag 21-07-2018 om 19:51:25Neo-confederate Republican Corey Stewart gets laughed at by Tim Kaine and the entire audience at the #VASen debate after his embarrassing claim that Donald Trump "is standing up to the Russians." reageer retweet
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Die gast is echt zwaar in paniek. Belachelijk figuur.twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 13:09:39.....”Carter Page wasn’t a spy, wasn’t an agent of the Russians - he would have cooperated with the FBI. It was a fraud and a hoax designed to target Trump.” Tom Fitton @JudicialWatch A disgrace to America. They should drop the discredited Mueller Witch Hunt now! reageer retweet
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Hij was nog uit het MySpace tijdperk.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 14:00 schreef archito het volgende:
Zou Nixon ook zo getwitterd hebben toen hij in het nauw kwam?I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Oh.twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 14:25:02When you hear the Fake News talking negatively about my meeting with President Putin, and all that I gave up, remember, I gave up NOTHING, we merely talked about future benefits for both countries. Also, we got along very well, which is a good thing, except for the Corrupt Media! reageer retweet
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Nixon was ook corrupt maar die had niet de emotionele intelligentie van een meisje van 12. Denk het niet dus.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 14:00 schreef archito het volgende:
Zou Nixon ook zo getwitterd hebben toen hij in het nauw kwam?![]()
Trump’s Tax Cut Hasn’t Done Anything for Workers
Oeps....quote:Wages were supposed to rise. Instead, they’ve fallen.I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Ben bang dat ie een oorlog gaat starten om het te overschreeuwen.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 13:21 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Die gast is echt zwaar in paniek. Belachelijk figuur.twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 13:09:39.....”Carter Page wasn’t a spy, wasn’t an agent of the Russians - he would have cooperated with the FBI. It was a fraud and a hoax designed to target Trump.” Tom Fitton @JudicialWatch A disgrace to America. They should drop the discredited Mueller Witch Hunt now! reageer retweet
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Zonder hulp? Het westen gaat hem echt niet helpen en de Russen ook niet.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 15:01 schreef Black_Baron het volgende:
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Ben bang dat ie een oorlog gaat starten om het te overschreeuwen.I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Ligt het aan mij of klopt die zin niet helemaal. Alsof hij halverwege niet meer weet hoe hij z'n zin in begonnen.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 14:28 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Oh.twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 14:25:02When you hear the Fake News talking negatively about my meeting with President Putin, and all that I gave up, remember, I gave up NOTHING, we merely talked about future benefits for both countries. Also, we got along very well, which is a good thing, except for the Corrupt Media! reageer retweet
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Hij is een Nero die viool speelt op de puinhopen van zijn eigen beleid.He's simple, he's dumb, he's the pilot.![]()
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 15:06:18A Rocket has not been launched by North Korea in 9 months. Likewise, no Nuclear Tests. Japan is happy, all of Asia is happy. But the Fake News is saying, without ever asking me (always anonymous sources), that I am angry because it is not going fast enough. Wrong, very happy! reageer retweet
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Hij lijkt de draad echt kwijt te zijn. Nu weer dit:twitter:BillKristol twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 14:45:23Trump must expect and fear, and indeed seems to be panicking about, forthcoming bad news in the Russia investigation. Are new indictments imminent—this time of Americans? What’s in the other Cohen tapes? Has Manafort flipped? https://t.co/ftqfi4sZJX reageer retweet
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 15:21:15The Amazon Washington Post has gone crazy against me ever since they lost the Internet Tax Case in the U.S. Supreme Court two months ago. Next up is the U.S. Post Office which they use, at a fraction of real cost, as their “delivery boy” for a BIG percentage of their packages.... reageer retweet
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Zou het dan toch........twitter:SenSchumer twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 15:23:50Mr. President, Paul Manafort’s trial starts on Wednesday. Time to side with the American people and their right to an election without interference from a hostile foreign power. https://t.co/sNhY7NFulO reageer retweet
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De man heeft een epische paniekaanval.twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 15:35:20....In my opinion the Washington Post is nothing more than an expensive (the paper loses a fortune) lobbyist for Amazon. Is it used as protection against antitrust claims which many feel should be brought? reageer retweet
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quote:Rachel Maddow highlights a portion of the charging document against accused Russian agent Mariia Butina in which there is a suggestion that Russians thought they had a say in Donald Trump's choice for secretary of state.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Pod Save America (maar die ken je wellicht al): https://crooked.com/podcast-series/pod-save-america/quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 15:51 schreef Black_Baron het volgende:
Zijn er nog podcasts die jullie aanraden?In some matters there's no reality, only perception. Truth exists, but people have a vested interest in not knowing it.![]()
Nee die kende ik nog niet. Bedankt!quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 15:53 schreef Mike het volgende:
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De andere kant van het verhaal:
Obama intel chiefs gave Russia a pass
http://thehill.com/opinio(...)w-blame-donald-trumpGovernment exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.![]()
Samengevat:quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 17:03 schreef martijnde3de het volgende:
De andere kant van het verhaal:
Obama intel chiefs gave Russia a pass
http://thehill.com/opinio(...)w-blame-donald-trump
"Omdat Obama niet juist reageerde moet men Trump niets kwalijk nemen."
Zwak argument.I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 17:03 schreef martijnde3de het volgende:
De andere kant van het verhaal:
Obama intel chiefs gave Russia a pass
http://thehill.com/opinio(...)w-blame-donald-trumpquote:Crowley has been listed by Politico as an individual connected to Donald Trump with Russian connections who potentially committed obstruction of justice.[2].
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last
When all are one and one is all
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twitter:RandPaul twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 13:42:38Is John Brennan monetizing his security clearance? Is John Brennan making millions of dollars divulging secrets to the mainstream media with his attacks on @realDonaldTrump ? reageer retweet
twitter:RandPaul twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 13:42:38Today I will meet with the President and I will ask him to revoke John Brennan’s security clearance! reageer retweet
quote:Paul's request comes after Fox News host Tucker Carlson said last week that Brennan still had a security clearance despite not working for the federal government anymore.
Carlson, who called Brennan an "out-of-the-closet extremist," went on to call for his security clearance removed.
In addition, other lawmakers have started to attack Brennan.
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) Sunday called for Brennan to testify on Capitol Hill for his role in the investigation of Russia in the 2016 election.
Goodlatte said it's "extremely disturbing" to see Brennan and former FBI Director James Comey "express the kind of extreme bias that they've shown now."
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[ Bericht 19% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 23-07-2018 18:08:04 ]“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Kijk onze Paul eens even een wit voetje proberen te halen.![]()
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn![]()
En terecht, die man is niet meer in dienst van de VS en zou niet zulk informatie moeten krijgen.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 18:00 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
twitter:RandPaul twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 13:42:38Is John Brennan monetizing his security clearance? Is John Brennan making millions of dollars divulging secrets to the mainstream media with his attacks on @realDonaldTrump ? reageer retweet
[..]twitter:RandPaul twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 13:42:38Today I will meet with the President and I will ask him to revoke John Brennan’s security clearance! reageer retweet
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How a Small Bank Became a Go-To Lender to the Trump Familyquote:When Michael D. Cohen needed $17 million to buy a Manhattan apartment building in 2015, he went to Signature Bank.
Signature had existed for less than two decades, and compared with some of its New York rivals, it was a small player occupying unglamorous niches.
Yet it was a natural place to go for Mr. Cohen, who was Donald J. Trump’s personal lawyer. Years earlier, he had helped initiate a relationship between Signature and Mr. Trump, and the bank became an unlikely go-to lender for the future president and his extended family.
The bank lent money to Mr. Trump’s Florida golf course. It lent money to Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law, and to Mr. Kushner’s father, Charles. It provided Mr. Trump and his business with checking accounts. And Ivanka Trump sat on Signature’s board of directors while the bank was lending to her father and her husband, Mr. Kushner.
Signature provides a window into the intersecting financial interests of Mr. Cohen and the Trump and Kushner families. With Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner working in the White House, and Mr. Cohen under criminal investigation, Signature’s interactions with some of its most famous clients are attracting attention from regulators.
New York’s Department of Financial Services this year requested information from Signature about its credit lines to the Kushners, according to people familiar with the requests. They said regulators were reviewing whether Mr. Kushner’s White House role could compromise Signature’s ability to collect on the loans.
That review of Mr. Kushner’s loan documents led the New York regulators to broaden their inquiry, said one person, who was not authorized to speak publicly about the regulator’s activities. The agency is now looking into whether Signature lent money to real estate developers — including the Kushner family’s business, Kushner Companies — knowing they planned to use abusive tactics to push out low-rent tenants and then charge more, according to two people familiar with the review. It is focused on whether Signature’s loans were overly risky and violated laws intended to prevent predatory behavior.
The inquiry is at an early stage and might include banks other than Signature, the person said.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Lawmakers, Lobbyists and the Administration Join Forces to Overhaul the Endangered Species Actquote:The Endangered Species Act, which for 45 years has safeguarded fragile wildlife while blocking ranching, logging and oil drilling on protected habitats, is coming under attack from lawmakers, the White House and industry on a scale not seen in decades, driven partly by fears that the Republicans will lose ground in November’s midterm elections.
In the past two weeks, more than two dozen pieces of legislation, policy initiatives and amendments designed to weaken the law have been either introduced or voted on in Congress or proposed by the Trump administration.
The actions included a bill to strip protections from the gray wolf in Wyoming and along the western Great Lakes; a plan to keep the sage grouse, a chicken-size bird that inhabits millions of oil-rich acres in the West, from being listed as endangered for the next decade; and a measure to remove from the endangered list the American burying beetle, an orange-flecked insect that has long been the bane of oil companies that would like to drill on the land where it lives.
“It’s probably the best chance that we have had in 25 years to actually make any substantial changes,” said Richard Pombo, a former congressman from California who more than a decade ago led an attempt to rethink the act and is now a lobbyist whose clients include mining and water management companies.
He and others argue that the act has become skewed toward restricting economic development and Americans’ livelihoods rather than protecting threatened animals.
The new push to undo the wildlife protection law comes as Republicans control the White House and both chambers of Congress, and is led by a president who has made deregulation — the loosening of not only environmental protections but banking rules, car fuel efficiency standards and fair housing enforcement — a centerpiece of his administration.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Wel opmerkelijk dom dan dat ze daar naar 1 3/4 jaar pas achterkomen nadat zo'n figuur van Faux met een of andere samenzweringsverhaal komtquote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 18:20 schreef vigen98 het volgende:
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En terecht, die man is niet meer in dienst van de VS en zou niet zulk informatie moeten krijgen._____!
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Trump to Seek Repeal of California's Smog-Fighting Powerquote:The Trump administration will seek to revoke California’s authority to regulate automobile emissions -- including its mandate for electric car sales -- in a proposed revision of Obama-era standards, according to three people familiar with the plan.
The proposal, expected to be released this week, amounts to a frontal assault on one of former President Barack Obama’s signature regulatory programs to curb greenhouse gas emissions that contribute to climate change. It also sets up a high-stakes battle over California’s unique ability to combat air pollution and, if finalized, is sure to set off a protracted courtroom battle.
The proposed revamp would also put the brakes on federal rules to boost fuel efficiency into the next decade, said the people, who asked to not be identified discussing the proposals before they are public. Instead it will cap federal fuel economy requirements at the 2020 level, which under federal law must be at least a 35-mile-per-gallon fleet average, rather than letting them rise to roughly 50 mpg by 2025 as envisioned in the plan left behind by Obama, according to the people.
As part of the effort, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency will propose revoking the Clean Air Act waiver granted to California that has allowed the state to regulate carbon emissions from vehicle tailpipes and force carmakers to sell electric vehicles in the state in higher numbers, according to three people familiar with the plan.
The U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration will likewise assert that California is barred from regulating greenhouse gas emissions from autos under the 1975 law that established the first federal fuel-efficiency requirements, the people said.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 18:49:32Judge T.S. Ellis has approved Mueller's request to grant immunity to five witnesses so that they can testify against Paul Manafort; Ellis said that he planned to make public their identities, TPM reports. https://t.co/rzq70cfSPn reageer retweet
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En nog steeds zijn er mensen die waarde hechten aan de zogenaamde impartial uitspraken van deze drol.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 18:13 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Kijk onze Paul eens even een wit voetje proberen te halen.
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.![]()
Wat is trouwens gewoonte nadat mensen met zulke posities hun post verlaten? Behouden ze hun clearance?![]()
Ik denk eerder dat men vergeten is om deze in te trekken dan. Je weet wel, net zoals Jared 'vergat' om contacten op te geven voor zijn security clearance.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 19:09 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Wat is trouwens gewoonte nadat mensen met zulke posities hun post verlaten? Behouden ze hun clearance?Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.![]()
quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 19:09 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Wat is trouwens gewoonte nadat mensen met zulke posities hun post verlaten? Behouden ze hun clearance?quote:Former CIA directors typically hold on to their clearance for several years after leaving office in part so that they can share insights with current directors.
Bron“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Je schreef 'deep state' verkeerd...quote:Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.![]()
Rand Paul weet echt nog niet hoe te stemmen hoor!![]()
Wavering Rand sets off Supreme Court spectacle
The Kentucky Republican says he's genuinely undecided on whether to back Brett Kavanaugh. His vote could be decisive.quote:Rand Paul is one of a handful of senators who'll determine whether Brett Kavanaugh lands on the Supreme Court — and the Kentucky Republican has every intention of maximizing his leverage.
Paul is again inviting fellow senators to play the will-he-or-won’t-he guessing game when it comes to his decision — expressing grave concerns about Kavanaugh’s approach to personal privacy while insisting his vote could go either way, depending on what the judge says in the coming weeks and months.
“I am honestly undecided. I am very concerned about his position on privacy and the Fourth Amendment. This is not a small deal for me. This is a big deal,” Paul said in an interview last week. “Kavanaugh’s position is basically that national security trumps privacy. And he said it very strongly and explicitly. And that worries me.”
The calculation, of course, isn’t that straightforward. GOP senators and strategists are skeptical that Paul would be willing to buck President Donald Trump, with whom he’s close, on such a monumental vote. For senators, it doesn’t get much bigger than a vote to confirm or reject a Supreme Court justice in waiting.
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Trump administration officials dismissed benefits of national monumentstwitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 19:25:22Senior Interior Department officials dismissed evidence (and tried to keep it out of public view) that national monuments boosted tourism and spurred archaeological discoveries, according to docs accidentally released this month and retracted a day later. https://t.co/30h0nPRv3Z reageer retweet
quote:In a quest to shrink national monuments last year, senior Interior Department officials dismissed evidence these public lands boosted tourism and spurred archaeological discoveries, according to documents the department released this month and retracted a day later.
The thousands of pages of email correspondence chart how Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and his aides instead tailored their survey of protected sites to emphasize the value of logging, ranching and energy development that would be unlocked if they were not designated as national monuments.
Comments the department’s Freedom of Information Act officers made in the documents show they sought to keep some of the references out of public view because they were “revealing [the] strategy” behind the review.
Presidents can establish national monuments in federal land or waters if they determine cultural, historical or natural resources are imperiled. In April, President Trump signed an executive order instructing Zinke to review 27 national monuments established over a period of 21 years, arguing his predecessors had overstepped their authority in placing these large sites off-limits to development.
Trump has already massively reduced two of Utah’s largest national monuments, Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante, and has not ruled out altering others.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Deep State Radio is wel aardig.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 15:51 schreef Black_Baron het volgende:
Zijn er nog podcasts die jullie aanraden?![]()
2.5 Billion Pounds of Meat Piles Up in U.S. as Production Grows, Exports Slow
Profits, prices are threatened as record amounts of red meat and poultry fill U.S. warehousesquote:Meat is piling up in U.S. cold-storage warehouses, fueled by a surge in supplies and trade disputes that are eroding demand.
Federal data, coming as early as Monday, are expected to show a record level of beef, pork, poultry and turkey being stockpiled in U.S. facilities, rising above 2.5 billion pounds, agricultural analysts said.
U.S. consumers’ appetite for meat is growing, but not fast enough to keep up with record production of hogs and chickens. That leaves the U.S. meat industry increasingly reliant on exports, but Mexico and China—among the largest foreign buyers of U.S. meat—have both set tariffs on U.S. pork products in response to U.S. tariffs on steel, aluminum and other goods. U.S. hams, chops and livers have become sharply more expensive in those markets, which is starting to slow sales, industry officials said.
The meat industry’s growing production already is filling the specialized warehouses built to store meat and other goods. “We are packed full,” said Joe Rumsey, president of Arkansas-based Zero Mountain Inc. The company’s five storage facilities serve as way stations for turkeys and chicken strips between processors and retailers, holding around 250 million pounds of products on any given day.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
twitter:KlasfeldReports twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 20:42:05BREAKING: There isn’t just one audio file in the Michael Cohen matter.There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday - when the Times story ran on one of them.
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twitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 20:50:02Sarah Sanders says that the White House is looking into revoking the security clearances of John Brennan, James Comey, Jim Clapper, Michael Hayden, Susan Rice and Andrew McCabe. Sanders says it's because these officials have allegedly made "baseless charges" against Trump. reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
De 5 namen met immuniteit in de Manafort zaak. Geen Podesta te zien:
James Brennan
Donna Duggan
Conor O’Brien
Cindy Laporta
Dennis Raico
Was dat dan een leugen van Tucker Carlson van Fox News dus?quote:REVEALED: Identities Of 5 Witnesses Immunized To Testify Against Manafort (TPM)
A federal judge Monday unsealed the names of five witnesses granted immunity by special counsel Robert Mueller to testify at the upcoming trial of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
The witnesses, who Mueller's team had sought to keep from public view until they were called to testify, are:
James Brennan
Donna Duggan
Conor O'Brien
Cindy Laporta
Dennis Raico
The unsealed court documents do not provide details about what the witnesses may be expected to testify about. None of the newly revealed witnesses have figured prominently in the case or the coverage of the case to this point.
Two possible prominent witnesses in the case - Washington lobbyists Tony Podesta and Vin Weber, whose firms allegedly participated with Manafort in a PR campaign campaign for Ukraine without registering a foreign agents - did not appear among the list of five immunized witnesses.
Typically under immunity deals such as this one, the witness will provide relevant testimony with the agreement that it will not be used to prosecute them.
Manafort faces charges of tax fraud and bank fraud related to his decade-plus of consulting work for pro-Russian political forces in Ukraine. He has pleaded not guilty. He faces trial on similar charges in DC later this year.
Mueller has secured five guilty pleas and dozen of indictments in his wide-ranging probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election, but Manafort's case is set to be the first to come to trial. The judge in the case has opined that Mueller is only interested in Manafort as a possible witness against President Trump, and has called the prosecution's tactic "distasteful." Manafort has shown no signs so far of being willing to cooperate with Mueller's probe.![]()
Tucker Carlson loog? Say it ain't so!quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:12 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
De 5 namen met immuniteit in de Manafort zaak. Geen Podesta te zien:
James Brennan
Donna Duggan
Conor O’Brien
Cindy Laporta
Dennis Raico
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Kan de lijst nog groter worden? Ik dacht laatst iets gelezen te hebben over 100 mogelijke getuigen.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:12 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
De 5 namen met immuniteit in de Manafort zaak. Geen Podesta te zien:
James Brennan
Donna Duggan
Conor O’Brien
Cindy Laporta
Dennis Raico
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Ja, gek he? Doet ie anders nooit...quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:17 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:
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Tucker Carlson loog? Say it ain't so!Ongetwijfeld wel, maar dit gaat om 5 getuigen met een beperkte soort van immuniteit waarvan de rechter oplegde dat ze bekend gemaakt moesten worden. Vrij specifieke set dus.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:18 schreef Montov het volgende:
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Kan de lijst nog groter worden? Ik dacht laatst iets gelezen te hebben over 100 mogelijke getuigen.![]()
Geeft niet want mensen die kritisch op de media zijn zullen dit niet klakkeloos hebben geloofd.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:17 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:
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Tucker Carlson loog? Say it ain't so!Géén kloon van tvlxd!![]()
twitter:rachelweinerwp twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 21:11:06NEWS: Manafort trial delayed until July 31st. reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Ik moet trouwens wel zeggen dat ik de ogenschijnlijke leugen van Carlson wel raar vind ... een bedreven leugenaar met enige intelligentie liegt normaal gesproken niet over iets wat heel makkelijk controleerbaar is in enkele dagen, zou ik denken?!![]()
Die kijken niet naar Fox news/Carlson.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:19 schreef Montov het volgende:
Geeft niet want mensen die kritisch op de media zijn zullen dit niet klakkeloos hebben geloofd.![]()
Dus Abramson had weer gelijkquote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 20:44 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
twitter:KlasfeldReports twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 20:42:05BREAKING: There isn’t just one audio file in the Michael Cohen matter.There are at least 12, and prosecutors got them on Friday - when the Times story ran on one of them. [ afbeelding ] reageer retweet
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.![]()
Yups en hij was al een tijd behoorlijk kritisch op de berichtgeving van Maggie Haberman. Ze heeft nu aangekondigd met haar twitterfeed te minderen.quote:“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Kinderachtig is het juiste woordtwitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 21:40:00James Clapper on CNN: "I don't get the briefings. I don't have access to classified info ... Haven't had a case to use it and has no bearing whatsoever on my regard or lack thereof for President Trump or what he's doing ... I think this is just a very, very petty thing to do." reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Kan ook nog steeds gebeuren, dus om 'm nu hard voor leugenaar uit te maken. Straks krijgt Podesta toch immuniteit en komt het andere kamp je weer hard uitlachen...quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:22 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Ik moet trouwens wel zeggen dat ik de ogenschijnlijke leugen van Carlson wel raar vind ... een bedreven leugenaar met enige intelligentie liegt normaal gesproken niet over iets wat heel makkelijk controleerbaar is in enkele dagen, zou ik denken?!beter een knipoog dan een blauw oog![]()
Maar slechts 1 audiotape met Trump las ik ergens.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 21:26 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
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Yups en hij was al een tijd behoorlijk kritisch op de berichtgeving van Maggie Haberman. Ze heeft nu aangekondigd met haar twitterfeed te minderen.![]()
Comey en McCabe hebben klaarblijkelijk geen eens clearance meer om in te trekken. Nu was het sowieso wel kinderachtig en een red herring, maar volstrekt uit de lucht gegrepen ook dus kennelijk.
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Ja, pcies, maar voor de duidelijkheid nam ik wel een slag om de arm en was het voor de uitspraken van Carlson al bekend dat het hier om vijf getuigen met immuniteit ging.quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 22:29 schreef Knipoogje het volgende:
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Kan ook nog steeds gebeuren, dus om 'm nu hard voor leugenaar uit te maken. Straks krijgt Podesta toch immuniteit en komt het andere kamp je weer hard uitlachen...
Overigens kun je je in dat geval wel afvragen wie dat dan had moeten lekken. Zowel team Mueller als Podesta zouden echt 0 incentive hebben om het te lekken...laat staan naar Tucker Carlson...
Misschien maar enige speculatie: Mueller&co verdachten een lek ergens en lieten dit stukje misinformatie slingeren? Dan heeft Carlson niet gelogen, wat bizar opzichtig zou zijn geweest, maar zou het alsnog onwaar zijn.
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Ik las wat anders:quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 22:33 schreef Klaphark het volgende:
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Maar slechts 1 audiotape met Trump las ik ergens.twitter:jimsciutto twitterde op vrijdag 20-07-2018 om 18:51:13There are more tapes: Michael Cohen had other recordings of the president in his records that were seized by the FBI, according to Rudy Giuliani & source with knowledge of Cohen’s tapes, per @DanaBashCNN @GloriaBorger https://t.co/WZCk715rCg reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
twitter:LannyDavis twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 22:11:58Latest news @MichaelCohen212 tapes of conversations are being released by @realDonaldTrump & his legal team who own and waived the privilege. Will @RudyGiuliani call these tapes “exculpatory” again? As I noted before, the tapes will speak for themselves – spin can’t change facts. reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Trump en Rudy hebben die tapes inderdaad zelf naar buiten gebracht.
Allemaal onderdeel van het 4D schaakspel.![]()
Word je niet moe van jelelf. Er is geen schaak, hij is gewoon stupide.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 00:26 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Trump en Rudy hebben die tapes inderdaad zelf naar buiten gebracht.
Allemaal onderdeel van het 4D schaakspel.Carpe Libertatem![]()
twitter:JZarif twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 21:04:45COLOR US UNIMPRESSED: The world heard even harsher bluster a few months ago. And Iranians have heard them —albeit more civilized ones—for 40 yrs. We’ve been around for millennia & seen fall of empires, incl our own, which lasted more than the life of some countries. BE CAUTIOUS! reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Trump had het over montenegro, maar Iran aanvallen. Dat is echt WW3, ze hebben een bizar leger.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 01:27 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
twitter:JZarif twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 21:04:45COLOR US UNIMPRESSED: The world heard even harsher bluster a few months ago. And Iranians have heard them —albeit more civilized ones—for 40 yrs. We’ve been around for millennia & seen fall of empires, incl our own, which lasted more than the life of some countries. BE CAUTIOUS! reageer retweet
Carpe Libertatem![]()
quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 01:32 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
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Trump had het over montenegro, maar Iran aanvallen. Dat is echt WW3, ze hebben een bizar leger.quote:Pompeo stopped short of calling for regime change, but he announced stepped-up U.S. government broadcasting in Farsi that is likely to foment further unrest against the government.
He said the U.S. Broadcasting Board of Governors is taking steps to circumvent Internet censorship in Iran and creating a round-the-clock Farsi channel across television, radio, digital and social media formats, “so that ordinary Iranians inside Iran and around the globe will know that America stands with them.”
Bron“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Is dit de vlucht naar voren?quote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 23:20 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
twitter:LannyDavis twitterde op maandag 23-07-2018 om 22:11:58Latest news @MichaelCohen212 tapes of conversations are being released by @realDonaldTrump & his legal team who own and waived the privilege. Will @RudyGiuliani call these tapes “exculpatory” again? As I noted before, the tapes will speak for themselves – spin can’t change facts. reageer retweet
Ik snap echt bijster weinig van Trump's beslissingen omtrent de tapes.![]()
What to Make of the Carter Page FISA Applicationstwitter:kylegriffin1 twitterde op dinsdag 24-07-2018 om 02:20:02Ex-Associate deputy attorney general David Kris: "The Nunes memo accused the FBI of dishonesty in failing to disclose information about Steele, but in fact the Nunes memo itself was dishonest in failing to disclose what the FBI disclosed." https://t.co/XsEfrhBDoh reageer retweet
quote:The Carter Page FISAs are out via the Freedom of Information Act. Here are a few observations, relatively brief but still just a bit too long for Twitter.
First, a huge amount of information is redacted in these FISA applications, but they still represent a monumental disclosure to the public. The government considers FISA applications to be very sensitive—and their disclosure, even heavily redacted, may have long-term, programmatic consequences long after we’re finished with President Trump. The government seems to have accepted that FOIA applies to FISA. Without taking a position on the issue it made me recall this Lawfare post that argues to the contrary.
Second, for those who don’t remember, the controversy about these FISA applications first arose in February when House intelligence committee Chairman Rep. Devin Nunes released a memo claiming that the FBI misled the FISA Court about Christopher Steele, the former British secret agent who compiled the “dossier” on Trump-Russia ties and who was a source of information in the FISA applications on Page. The main complaint in the Nunes memo was that FBI whitewashed Steele—that the FISA applications did not “disclose or reference the role of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign in funding Steele’s efforts, even though the political origins of the Steele dossier were then known to senior and FBI officials.”
In response to the Nunes memo, the Democrats on the committee released their own memo. That memo quoted from parts of the FISA applications, including a footnote in which the FBI explained that Steele was hired to “conduct research regarding Candidate #1,” Donald Trump, and Trump’s “ties to Russia,” and that the man who hired him was “likely looking for information that could be used to discredit [Trump’s] campaign.”
Based on this back and forth between the HPSCI partisans, I wrote on Lawfare at the time that the FBI’s disclosures on Steele “amply satisfie[d] the requirements” for FISA applications, and that the central irony of the Nunes memo was that it “tried to deceive the American people in precisely the same way that it falsely accused the FBI of deceiving the FISA Court.” The Nunes memo accused the FBI of dishonesty in failing to disclose information about Steele, but in fact the Nunes memo itself was dishonest in failing to disclose what the FBI disclosed. I said then, and I still believe, that the “Nunes memo was dishonest. And if it is allowed to stand, we risk significant collateral damage to essential elements of our democracy.”
Now we have some additional information in the form of the redacted FISA applications themselves, and the Nunes memo looks even worse. In my earlier post, I observed that the FBI’s disclosures about Steele were contained in a footnote, but argued that this did not detract from their sufficiency: “As someone who has read and approved many FISA applications and dealt extensively with the FISA Court, I will anticipate and reject a claim that the disclosure was somehow insufficient because it appeared in a footnote; in my experience, the court reads the footnotes.” Now we can see that the footnote disclosing Steele’s possible bias takes up more than a full page in the applications, so there is literally no way the FISA Court could have missed it. The FBI gave the court enough information to evaluate Steele’s credibility.
There’s also more detail on the previous disclosure from the House intelligence committee Democrats’ memo on how Steele went to the press with the “dossier” when FBI Director James Comey sent his October 2016 letter to Congress disclosing the possible newfound importance of the Weiner laptop in the Clinton investigation. According to the FISA applications, Steele complained that Comey’s action could influence the election. But when Steele went to the press, it caused FBI to close him out as an informant—facts which are disclosed and cross-referenced in the footnote in bold text.
While I am sure people will try, my initial impression is that with all the redactions it is going to be very tough to figure out the full scope of information supporting the Court’s repeated finding of probable cause to believe that Carter Page was an agent of Russia. There is a mention of two Russians, one of whom pleaded guilty to being an unregistered agent of a foreign government and was sentenced to 30 months, but even that is disconnected from the redacted discussion that precedes it. Substantively, the government seems to have hewed as closely to the prior disclosures as it could in applying FOIA.
But it is worth noting that—and as the Democrats previously pointed out—the judges who signed off on these four FISA applications were all appointed by Republican presidents, including one George H.W. Bush appointee (Anne Conway), two George W. Bush appointees (Rosemary Collyer and Michael Mosman) and one Reagan appointee (Raymond Dearie). I know some of those judges, and they certainly are not the types to let partisan politics affect their legal judgments.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Draadje Abramson hierover:quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 02:49 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:
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Is dit de vlucht naar voren?
Ik snap echt bijster weinig van Trump's beslissingen omtrent de tapes.En bovendien leidt het natuurlijk lekker af van zijn Helsinki debacle....twitter:SethAbramson twitterde op zaterdag 21-07-2018 om 19:22:39Yesterday I said Team Trump might have allowed this tape (or a summary of it) into the public sphere because it *knew* the tape would get out eventually and wanted to start spinning now. It appears I was right. This is a desperate gambit you only use when there's no other option. https://t.co/h6xEj9hFep reageer retweet
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Kijkertje op 24-07-2018 03:26:17 ]“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
U.S. judge allows lawsuit over end of immigrant protections to proceedquote:A federal judge in Boston on Monday rejected a bid by the Trump administration to dismiss a lawsuit alleging that its decisions to end temporary protections for immigrants in the United States from Honduras, Haiti and El Salvador were racially motivated.
U.S. District Judge Denise Casper in Boston ruled that a group of immigrants and two organizations could move forward with a lawsuit challenging the administration’s termination of the protective status enjoyed by thousands of people from those three countries.
She said the lawsuit’s allegations about “statements of animus” by officials including President Donald Trump coupled with claims about a shift in policy “allege plausibly that a discriminatory purpose was a motivating factor in a decision.”
The lawsuit cited statements it said showed Trump’s “dislike and disregard for Latino and black immigrants,” including reported remarks in January by Trump saying immigrants from Africa and Haiti come from “shithole countries.”
“Plaintiffs have successfully made out their prima facie case,” Casper wrote.SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell![]()
Oeps...
Fox News booked the wrong Democrat on a show. She used the spotlight to unload on Trump.quote:A Massachusetts state senator who opposes President Trump’s immigration policies was mistakenly booked on Fox News, and she used the airtime to criticize Trump's “illegal and inhumane” treatment of migrant families crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.
Barbara L’Italien, a Democrat, appeared Monday on “Fox & Friends First” instead of the intended guest, Democratic congressional candidate Ann Kirkpatrick, who has publicly supported U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. A spokesman for L’Italien said in a statement that “due to a Fox News error,” L’Italien was contacted and asked to share her views on ICE and decided to use the opportunity to “make a statement straight to Trump.”
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Haha, die reactie van die woordvoerder die dit heeft opgezet:quote:quote:When asked whether he had sent Kirkpatrick’s background information and campaign logo to the network, Katz said in an email: “I showed the exact same commitment to the truth and accuracy that Fox News always has.![]()
heel zwak iddquote:Op maandag 23 juli 2018 17:13 schreef Ulx het volgende:
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Samengevat:
"Omdat Obama niet juist reageerde moet men Trump niets kwalijk nemen."
Zwak argument.Mag ik je vandaag weer eens irriteren?![]()
Wel weer een perfecte afleidings strategie met die revoked security clearance. The base needs to be informed with nothingburgers want stel je voor ...04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15![]()
Trump is zelf een paard op het bord. Een actor, useful idiot door de krachten achter hem: De Mercers bijv. en Russische interests. De NRA, olielobby's.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 00:49 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
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Word je niet moe van jelelf. Er is geen schaak, hij is gewoon stupide.beter een knipoog dan een blauw oog![]()
Waar heeft hij het nou weer over?twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 24-07-2018 om 13:09:12Countries that have treated us unfairly on trade for years are all coming to Washington to negotiate. This should have taken place many years ago but,as the saying goes, better late than never! reageer retweet
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 24-07-2018 om 13:29:50Tariffs are the greatest! Either a country which has treated the United States unfairly on Trade negotiates a fair deal, or it gets hit with Tariffs. It’s as simple as that - and everybody’s talking! Remember, we are the “piggy bank” that’s being robbed. All will be Great! reageer retweet
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Juncker is morgen in Washingtonquote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 13:27 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Waar heeft hij het nou weer over?twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 24-07-2018 om 13:09:12Countries that have treated us unfairly on trade for years are all coming to Washington to negotiate. This should have taken place many years ago but,as the saying goes, better late than never! reageer retweet
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.![]()
Dit komt op mij echt over als iemand die vooral zichzelf probeert te overtuigen.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 13:33 schreef Ulx het volgende:
twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 24-07-2018 om 13:29:50Tariffs are the greatest! Either a country which has treated the United States unfairly on Trade negotiates a fair deal, or it gets hit with Tariffs. It’s as simple as that - and everybody’s talking! Remember, we are the “piggy bank” that’s being robbed. All will be Great! reageer retweet
"The north remembers, Lord Davos. The north remembers, and the mummer’s farce is almost done.”![]()
Ik denk eerder dat Fox News network zijn platte muil aanstuurt.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 12:42 schreef Knipoogje het volgende:
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Trump is zelf een paard op het bord. Een actor, useful idiot door de krachten achter hem: De Mercers bijv. en Russische interests. De NRA, olielobby's.Mag ik je vandaag weer eens irriteren?![]()
casino gelul van iemand die er een paar bankroet heeft laten gaan.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 13:42 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:
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Dit komt op mij echt over als iemand die vooral zichzelf probeert te overtuigen.Mag ik je vandaag weer eens irriteren?![]()
Ik wacht dan zijn verklaring wel af. De tweets van Trump slaan toch nergens op.quote:I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.![]()
Zou hij beseffen dat er jarenlang is onderhandeld over TTIP, maar dat hij er een streep doorheen heeft gezet?quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 13:27 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Waar heeft hij het nou weer over?twitter:realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 24-07-2018 om 13:09:12Countries that have treated us unfairly on trade for years are all coming to Washington to negotiate. This should have taken place many years ago but,as the saying goes, better late than never! reageer retweet
Op maandag 3 februari 2014 08:10 schreef Enchanter het volgende:[/b]
In discussie gaan met Koos Vogels :') , een grotere mongool is er niet :r![]()
Ik kan hier als conservatief erg om lachen.quote:Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.![]()
Iedereen lacht om Trumpsupporters ja.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 14:05 schreef martijnde3de het volgende:
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Ik kan hier als conservatief erg om lachen.ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn![]()
Een echte conservatief heeft bij Trump ook niet veel te zoeken denk ik.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 14:07 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
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Iedereen lacht om Trumpsupporters ja.![]()
Geen idee maar gezien zijn laatste uitlatingen denk ik dat hij TTIP wel prima vind maar omdat het een "Obama dingetje" is moet het natuurlijk helemaal overnieuw en moet 1 van de T's voor Trump staan.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 14:05 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
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Zou hij beseffen dat er jarenlang is onderhandeld over TTIP, maar dat hij er een streep doorheen heeft gezet?![]()
Het is soms wel een moderne Romeinse keizer qua onvoorspelbaarheid. Denk dat mensen die wat met hem van doen hebben zich soms voelen zoals een legaat deed als hij bij Nero moest langskomen.Jahaaa.. Mijn mening verandert vaak. Niet dat ik niet weet wat ik zeg. Maar ik houd mij liever niet vast aan oude denkbeelden als nieuwe beter zijn...![]()
Long read:
To Beat Trump, Get a Grip
Democrats won’t win in 2020 by calling him a ‘traitor’ and doubling down on identity politics.
By Ted Van Dyk the wall street journal
Democrats are determined to remove President Trump from office in 2020—or before, if that becomes possible. If precedent holds, he can be unseated in 2020 by a candidate perceived as his opposite: experienced, serious, knowledgeable about policy. If Democrats attempt to rush the process, amid current charges that Mr. Trump is a “traitor” and Russian agent and that his Supreme Court nominee is an extremist, they will further energize their take-it-to-the-streets wing but alienate all but partisan Northeast and Pacific Coast voters.
The present political and media rage over Mr. Trump’s alleged sellout to Vladimir Putin is an overreach. Any damage done at their recent summit pales compared with the effects, for instance, of the earlier Yalta Summit at which Stalin got a dying President Franklin D. Roosevelt to cede him Eastern Europe, or the Khrushchev-Kennedy Vienna Summit, which led to the Cuban Missile Crisis, Berlin Crisis and a huge buildup of U.S. ICBM forces and budget. Mr. Trump stumbled in Helsinki, but stumbles do not amount to treason.
Democrats and some media are now calling for Mr. Trump’s impeachment, presuming that a post-November Democratic House majority would bring such a vote. But it is a risky strategy that would polarize Americans deeply. The case against him would have to be airtight and based on indisputable fact. Otherwise Mr. Trump would be strengthened rather than harmed.
Democrats should take a fresh look at why and how Mr. Trump won the 2016 election. The party’s national leadership claims it was because of support from white supremacists, religious nuts, nativists, misogynists and Latino-haters. This is a failure to recognize what actually happened. President Trump was the consequence—not the cause—of a nationwide loss of confidence in all of the American establishment: political, media, cultural, business, financial. Sen. Bernie Sanders played on similar sentiments on the Democratic side and, had he known his potential sooner, could have won his party’s nomination.
Most voters knew before the election that Mr. Trump was a crude, freewheeling, womanizing egotist, a man who very well might finance his ventures with money from sketchy sources. They discounted all those negative factors because he was so obviously different from the establishment candidates in whom they had lost trust. Think about it: In one campaign, Mr. Trump polished off the Bushes, the Clintons, and even Ted Cruz. Voters did not love Mr. Trump; they rejected the other guys.
So where does that leave Democrats? A writer at the Washington Post recently put together a list of the top Democratic presidential contenders for 2020. Ranked first, not surprisingly, was Mr. Sanders, given his strong 2016 showing. Also near the top was former Vice President Joe Biden, who relates well to middle-American voters. But most of the rest of the contenders take an angry, accusatory line toward Mr. Trump. Leading the pack were Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris, from Massachusetts and California, respectively, where bashing the president earns cheers from the party faithful.
Shrill attacks and identity politics got a strong start during Bill Clinton’s two presidential terms. Under fire on multiple fronts, the Clinton White House took an aggressive posture toward critics, asserting that it was just “fighting back.” Democrats repeated that pattern in President Obama’s 2012 campaign. They labeled Mitt Romney, a temperate former governor of Massachusetts, as antiwoman, antigay, antiblack, anti-Latino, anti-immigrant and a tool of big finance. That theme worked so well that Democrats repeated it in congressional races two years later. Now the beat goes on, only stronger, against Mr. Trump.
There are some basic misapprehensions here. Most voters see abortion and gay rights as accepted issues and wonder why Democrats present them as threatened. They do not see racism as on the rise or the country as moving back toward Jim Crow. On the contrary, they see several decades in which the barriers to equal opportunity, legal or otherwise, have been steadily dismantled. They do worry about the problems of big-city neighborhoods: violence, drug use, broken families, unemployment, daunting dropout and incarceration rates. But they see little evidence that “white privilege” is the cause. They like immigrants and refugees but generally believe everyone should take a legal path to citizenship.
National security and the economy are the two principal issues in any presidential campaign. The Trump record in both those realms should be critiqued by Democrats. They should, in turn, offer credible alternative policies. If they do, and their presidential candidate seems reasonable, Democrats can reclaim the White House in 2020 not through a constitutional crisis but through a free election and with a popular mandate.
My own guess: By 2020, Mr. Trump will have fatigued the public. Voters will be turned off by him, just as they were in turn by the Johnson, Nixon and Carter presidencies. They will want to see another face on their TV sets. The danger is that Democrats by then may have fatigued the public even more.
Mr. Van Dyk was active in Democratic national policy and politics for 40 years. He is author of “Heroes, Hacks and Fools” (University of Washington Press, 2007).
https://www.wsj.com/articles/to-beat-trump-get-a-grip-1532386992Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.![]()
Alex Jones ondertussen bedreigt Mueller met de dood... de vriendelijke man
https://www.newsweek.com/(...)s-zuckerberg-103850004-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15![]()
De Amerikaanse bevolking is zo ernstig gedesinformeerd dat je daar niet zeker van kunt zijn. Tientallen jaren van disneyficering hebben hun werk gedaan. Het gaat er niet om hoe waarheidsgetrouw een boodschap is, het gaat erom in welke mate de ontvanger bereid is tot suspension of disbelief. Trump brengt geen feiten op tafel, hij creëert mythes.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 13:42 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:
Dit komt op mij echt over als iemand die vooral zichzelf probeert te overtuigen.
Mocht hij ooit berecht, schuldig bevonden en afgezet worden, dan wordt het echt enorm lastig om de massa ervan te overtuigen dat daar gegronde redenen voor zijn geweest. Nog veel lastiger dan het proces dat tot zijn afzetting moet leiden.He's simple, he's dumb, he's the pilot.![]()
dat zal wellicht uitlopen op een verkapte burgeroorlog, volgzaam volkje hoorquote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 14:55 schreef Ringo het volgende:
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De Amerikaanse bevolking is zo ernstig gedesinformeerd dat je daar niet zeker van kunt zijn. Tientallen jaren van disneyficering hebben hun werk gedaan. Het gaat er niet om hoe waarheidsgetrouw een boodschap is, het gaat erom in welke mate de ontvanger bereid is tot suspension of disbelief. Trump brengt geen feiten op tafel, hij creëert mythes.
Mocht hij ooit berecht, schuldig bevonden en afgezet worden, dan wordt het echt enorm lastig om de massa ervan te overtuigen dat daar gegronde redenen voor zijn geweest. Nog veel lastiger dan het proces dat tot zijn afzetting moet leiden.04-08-11, 02-02-12, 20-06-14, 13-08-15![]()
Ik denk dat Mueller getraind is met een vuurwapen.quote:Op dinsdag 24 juli 2018 14:53 schreef Re het volgende:
Alex Jones ondertussen bedreigt Mueller met de dood... de vriendelijke man
https://www.newsweek.com/(...)s-zuckerberg-1038500I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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