Oorlog in Libi� #117 Libi� wil Gadaffi terug

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Op zondag 19 april 2015 17:59 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Vele dode soldaten vind je het wel waard?

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Op zondag 19 april 2015 19:02 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:

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Waarom zouden westerse soldaten de shit van idiote islamitische facties moeten gaan oplossen? Mensen daar zitten helemaal niet oo interventie te wachten. Sterker nog, ze keren zich dan tegen de westerse militairen.

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Op vrijdag 17 april 2015 23:19 schreef Roceco het volgende:
Net een prima reportage van Jan Eikelboom over Libie, waarin hij terugging naar plekken in oost Libie waar hij in februari 2011 (optimistische) reportages had gemaakt. Terugkomende conclusie daarin: zie titel van dit topic.
Samengevatte mening van de geinterviewden: 'Khaddafi was corrupt, negeerde mensenrechten, maar door zijn ijzeren greep op de macht konden we in ieder geval veilig over straat'.

Zelfs een weduwe van een rebellenstrijder die in de strijd tegen Khadaffi om het leven kwam erkent dat haar man voor niets is gestorven.... Dat noem ik toch wel het toppunt van desillusie.

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During the coup, Roosevelt and Wilber, representatives of the Eisenhower administration, bribed Iranian government officials, reporters, and businessmen. They also bribed street thugs to support the Shah and oppose Mosaddegh.

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Op maandag 20 april 2015 00:03 schreef sp3c het volgende:
paar honderd (paar duizend voor een wereldstad) man en een paar kisten vol munitie en geweren en je neemt elke stad ter wereld in, dat is niet zo heel moeilijk

zo'n stad in bezit houden als het leger polshoogte komt nemen is een stuk lastiger

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Over the course of three days, civilians opposed to the 42-year rule of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi managed to outlast and overpower a fortified base guarded by detachments of several Libyan military units, one of them the feared and reportedly highly trained Khamis Brigade - a special forces unit led by Gaddafi's youngest son.

In the end, both anti-government protesters and Gaddafi loyalists lost hundreds and many more were wounded, and Gaddafi's forces fled the city.
http://www.aljazeera.com/(...)113175840189620.html

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Op zondag 19 april 2015 23:36 schreef JaJammerJan het volgende:
Als het Westen zich niet met Libi� bemoeit had, dan was er denk ik niet eens een grootschalige opstand geweest in Libi�.

15 Februari was er een eerste teken van opstand in Benghazi met rellen in de nacht.
18 Februari was Benghazi ingenomen door rebellen. Ze waren toen al zo sterk dat het leger ze al niet meer tegen kon houden (?!?).

Geweldloze demonstraties zijn er in Benghazi nooit geweest in die periode, en blijkbaar waren de rebellen vanaf begins af aan al zo sterk dat ze in 3 dagen een hele stad in kunnen nemen. Dat laat naar mijn mening zeer duidelijk zien dat er buitenlandse invloeden waren die die opstand toen hebben aangespoord. Ik vraag me af hoe grootschalig deze buitenlandse hulp was en hoeveel buitenlandse rebellen er toen al in het land waren.

Toen ze eenmaal Benghazi en andere steden ingenomen hadden, werden ze alweer snel verdreven door het Libische leger en enkel 6 maanden aan NATO bombardementen kon de rebellen tot een overwinning doen leiden. Zonder die NATO steun had Ghadaffi binnen 3 maanden het land zeer waarschijnlijk weer volledig onder controle en was Libi� 4 jaar (en counting!) aan leed bespaard.

Ik kan overigens niet wachten om over 60 jaar weer documenten te zien van de CIA en MI6 dat de revolutie in Libi� inderdaad door het Westen gecre�erd is, zoals bij Iran in 1953.

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Zoiets dus, maar dan voor Libi�

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Obama’s Murky Libya Policy

“We’re going to have to encourage some of the countries inside of the Gulf who have, I think, influence over the various factions inside of Libya to be more cooperative themselves,” was President Obama’s insight Friday into the country’s eight-month-old civil war. Since Qatar has been supporting the Islamist militias who seized Tripoli while the United Arab Emirates has been supporting the internationally recognized Libyan government in Tobruk, it’s not clear why it has taken Obama until now to realize this.

In the coming weeks, it’s possible that the blessedly half-hearted civil war in Libya will sputter to a close through UN-mediated talks that have been taking place in Algeria and Morocco. The aim has been the formation of a “unity government,” ending the war between Libya’s elected, internationally recognized government in Tobruk, under Prime Minister Abdullah al-Thani, and the coalition of Islamist militiamen called Fajr, or Dawn, who took control of Tripoli in August 2014. While the legitimate government has recently made battlefield gains, the country of 6 million remains divided about evenly between the two sides, and even staunch supporters think Fajr could last several more months. About half the country supports Fajr due to complex city-state alliances, including many who don’t consider themselves Islamists. But the core leadership of Fajr is Islamist, with a substantial number of extremists.

Meanwhile, Libya is in dire shape: The black flags of the Islamists still fly in the outskirts of Benghazi, and in the town centers of Derna and Sirte. Islamic State training camps ring Sabratha, home to some of Libya’s storied Roman ruins. It’s estimated that 25–30 percent of the population has left the country, mainly for Tunisia and Egypt. If the Libyans form a workable coalition, and if—a big if—the Fajr Islamist militias actually leave Tripoli and allow a unity government to take control, the country may be able to beat back the Islamic State from the shores of the Mediterranean.

As Obama’s statement Friday suggests, our Libya policy since the death of Muammar Qaddafi in October 2011 has been, at best, one of attempted benign neglect. But at worst, we have been foisting Islamists upon an electorate who rejected them twice. Even our superficially innocuous support for international efforts to name a “unity government” have involved a betrayal of Libya’s democratic aspirations. The talks have drawn a false moral equivalence between the elected Libyan government and the Islamist militias that drove it out of Tripoli in August 2014 by violence.

Americans may not know it, but Libyans like voting. Since Libyans won their freedom in the fall of 2011, they have peacefully participated in four free and fair elections: municipal council elections in fall 2011 and June 2014, and parliamentary elections in July 2012 and June 2014. The problem is, when the Islamists made a dismal showing for the second time in June 2014, they turned to violence.

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Op donderdag 23 april 2015 19:10 schreef pietba het volgende:

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Inderdaad, verschrikkelijk wat de NATO Libi� heeft aangedaan. Dat allemaal omdat de colonel de dollar bedreigde met zijn goudstandaard.

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Op donderdag 23 april 2015 20:02 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:

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Je gelooft in die flauwekul?

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Op donderdag 23 april 2015 20:27 schreef pietba het volgende:

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Nuttige reactie man.

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Nigel Farage: David Cameron 'directly caused' Libyan migrant crisis

Nigel Farage has blamed “fanatical” David Cameron and Nicolas Sarkozy for the drowning of hundreds of migrants off Italy, saying the exodus was “directly caused” by western intervention in the civil war in Libya.
The Ukip leader said that Nato had destabilised Libya when it launched bombing raids against Col Gaddafi in March 2011, causing the flight of refugees from the country.
He said Britain should offer refugee status to some Libyan Christians.
Up to 700 people are feared dead after a boat carrying migrants capsized off the Libyan coast overnight. Twenty eight people were rescued in the incident, which happened in an area just off Libyan waters, south of the southern Italian island of Lampedusa, an Italian coast guard official said.
If confirmed, it would mean the total dead in the southern Mediterranean is more than 1,500.
• Europe hunts for gangs behind tide of migrant misery
Mr Farage rejected calls for a stronger European response to the crisis.
“It was the European response that caused this problem in the first place. The fanaticism of Sarkozy and Cameron to bomb Libya. They have completely destabilised Libya, to turn it into a country with much savagery, to turn it into a place where for Christians the place is now virtually impossible. We ought to be honest and say we have directly caused this problem”.
“There were no migrants coming in these quantities before we bombed the country, got rid of Gaddafi, however bad he might have been, and destabilised the whole situation.”
“I have not got a problem with us offering refugee status to some Christians from those countries.”
British aircraft were part of a Nato mission to bomb Gaddafi regime tanks in support of rebels.
However, since the toppling of Gaddifi Libya has fragmented with two rival governments and a series of armed militias vying for power.
It came as Mr Farage appealed to Labour voters to keep out the SNP.
"My plea from now until polling day is to Labour voters. Having taken part in the TV debates and seen the dynamics between Ed Miliband and Nicola Sturgeon, it's pretty clear who would wear the trousers. I'm saying to Old Labour, if you are patriotic, if you want a referendum, if you think immigration needs to be controlled, do not vote for Ed Miliband, vote for Ukip."
He said Mr Miliband had presented a "terrific opportunity" by all but ruling out an in-out referendum on EU membership.

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Libyan Prime Minister Abdullah al-Thinni has confirmed the widely held belief among Libyans that Turkey and Qatar are the main supporters of the militias in control of Tripoli since August, after overrunning the capital in a bloody 40-day war, and opposed to his internationally recognized government.

In an April 15 TV interview with RT's Arabic channel during his first visit to Moscow, Thinni said, “[C]ountries are trying to impose fanatical Islamic political views on the Libyan people.” He added, however, “Libyans do not want Islamists to dominate government,” but “welcome their participation” in the political process as long as they play by the rules. Thinni then went further, charging Qatar and Turkey with being the main weapons suppliers of the Islamist-backed militias running the Tripoli-based rebel government.

Many Libyan officials, including the army chief of staff Lt. Gen. Khalifa Hifter, as early as last June accused Ankara of arming and politically supporting the Tripoli-based militias while Doha took care of finances. Thinni also accused the West of turning its back on Libya after helping destroy it when NATO intervened in the 2011 civil war, which led to the fall of the Moammar Gadhafi regime in October that year. He said that Libyans are “disappointed by those who supported us in the beginning and let us down when we most need their help.”​

France, the United Kingdom and the United States, among other countries, have so far refused to allow the UN Security Council to lift the arms embargo imposed on Libya in Resolution 1970, passed on Feb. 26, 2011. The Tobruk-based government has repeatedly asked the United Nations to lift the embargo so it can rearm its struggling military to try to counter the increasingly more powerful Islamists, particularly in Benghazi (in the east), Sirte (in the middle of the country) and Tripoli. Jordan, currently a non-permanent member of the Security Council, along with Egypt, sponsored a draft resolution to this end, but the idea was struck down by the major powers, including the United States, arguing that the UN-sponsored mediation led by Bernardino Leon is approaching a turning point, and the two sides in Libya should therefore refrain from activities that might jeopardize the talks currently underway in Skhirat, Morocco. According to Leon, both sides have agreed to a draft agreement he described as “something that the parties can agree [on].”

In lashing out in Russia, Libya’s prime minister accused Western states of being “contradictory” in their approach to the Libyan conflict, engaging in a double standard. While they accept him and his government as Libya's legitimate representatives, they deny his administration the kind of help it needs to exercise full sovereignty and counter the increasing spread of terror organizations in Libya. In an unexpected turn, it appears that US President Barack Obama is now concerned about the role some Gulf states are playing in Libya, echoing Thinni's assessment. On April 17 Obama told the media: “In some cases, you've seen them fan the flames of military conflict, rather than try to reduce them.”

Thinni's RT appearance was the first time he had spoken out by singling out certain countries that played a central role in bringing down the Gadhafi regime, ultimately handing the country over to their own enemies, namely, extremist Islamists. NATO's eight-month air campaign destroyed much of the Libyan army, and its rebuilding is what took Thinni to Russia in search of arms and training. Moscow has so many problems on its doorstep, however, it cannot offer much assistance unless the embargo is lifted.

Thinni also traveled to Moscow in an attempt to soothe ties with Russia, which have been strained since 2011, when Russia was accused of supporting the Gadhafi regime in the civil war. Indeed, Russia did not support UN Security Council Resolution 1973, which authorized the use of force against Libya at the time. Furthermore, in December 2011 President Vladimir Putin accused the United States of involvement in the killing of Gadhafi.

The Libyan army had been equipped with Russian-made weaponry in the past, and as Thinni noted, tens of thousands of Libyan officers trained at Soviet military academies in the 1970s and 1980s. After Libya was welcomed back into the international community, the Gadhafi regime signed large military and energy sector contracts with Moscow. On his visit, Thinni sought to reactivate contracts concluded during a 2008 visit by Gadhafi to Moscow that some described as a “shopping trip.” Contracts signed then included one to build a railroad from Sirte to Benghazi and major investments in energy and infrastructure.

If Moscow decides to respond to the Libyan cry for help, it will first need to go back to the UN Security Council to pass a resolution suspending the arms embargo or completely lifting it, both of which are unlikely to happen any time soon, unless the talks in Morocco reach a conclusive agreement, another unlikely possibility despite Leon’s optimism.

Until then, Thinni must make do with what is available to his government without expecting much from the international community.

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AAhronheim twitterde op zaterdag 02-05-2015 om 19:13:33 #ISIS in #Libya executes 3 homosexuals in the courtyard of a mosque & amputate the hand of a thief in #Derna http://t.co/43Z6Rw9zPL reageer retweet

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I think you may have a slight misunderstanding of Gaddafi's true role in Libya, which is understandable considering the decades long propaganda campaign against Gaddafi and Libya. Gaddafi and Libya are subjects I am quite familiar with and I am more than happy to take the time to provide you with information.
Gaddafi wasn't a dictator let alone even the leader of Libya when he died. He hadn't held formal office since early in the 70's shortly after the bloodless coup.
The cult of personality that sprung up around Gaddafi was largely because he was idolized among many Libyans due to the democracy, prosperity and progress he helped facilitate, though he did play it up and used it to his advantage quite well.
As an example of the positive roll Gaddafi had in Libyan society, he and the Libyan government had been slated to receive a reward from the UN for their economic and social progress and for their commitment to human rights just a couple months prior to the NATO destabilization of Libya. (See the following link)
http://www2.ohchr.org/eng(...)n/A-HRC-16-15.pdf[1]
Libya had the highest standard of living in Africa as well as one of the highest literacy rates. Gaddafi also helped the government to devise a plan that turned a huge area of Libya's desert into useable farm land.
http://www.csmonitor.com/(...)gate-desert-farms[2]
Gaddafi was so loved for the reforms he created that many Libyans honored his contribution by calling him the 'brother leader'. (This is in part where the misconception comes in that Gaddafi was a dictator.) It was a fitting informal title because he was not the officially recognized leader but he was highly revered among Libyans.
He was basically the Libyan George Washington, who not only overthrew a corrupt monarchy but his policies took Libya from being the poorest country in the world to the most prosperous in Africa and one of the most prosperous in the ME. And all in a few decades! That is amazing.
Gaddafi was a living hero.
As another example this[3] video shows nearly 2 million Libyans (nearly one third the population of Libya) showing up in Tripoli at Green Square to support Gaddafi and oppose the NATO bombings.
Some important context to keep in mind is that prior to the Green Revolution, Libya was a monarchy and Libyans were used to having a prominent central governing figure, a king, before the peaceful coup in '69. So it was only natural that Gaddafi would be depicted by his supporters (the vast majority of Libyans) as such a figure.
Ultimately, Gaddafi was merely a statesman and adviser to the system of direct democracy known as 'Jamahiriya' that he helped create, and it is a tragic irony that he was doomed in some ways by the very adoration of his fellow Libyans.
As far as the 2011 overthrow of the Libyan government is concerned, it was known that Benghazi was/is a stronghold of radical Islam in Libya and that this area has produced many of the radical insurgents we have fought against in Iraq and which are now threatening to setup an Islamic dictatorship in Syria. The central Libyan government and Gaddafi were opposing these same radicals during the revolution.
The following is an article with quotes from Alan Kuperman an associate with the University of Texas' at the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs. He has studied Libya and many other African nations by visiting them firsthand. This article refutes the assertion by the Obama administration that Gaddafi was a threat to the armed Islamic rebels. It states numerous historical incidents showing Gaddafi's willingness to peacefully resolve issues with the Islamists rather than using violence.
http://articles.chicagotr(...)-gadhafi-massacre[4]
Who are the Libyan Freedom Fighters and Their Patrons?
http://www.japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/3504[5]
ISIS commander who was killed was former US/NATO backed Libyan rebel leader:
http://english.alarabiya.(...)ed-in-Syria-.html[6]
Qatar major donor for Libyan rebels:
http://freedomsyndicate.com/fair0000/times0067.html[7]
NATO backed Libyan rebels call for government based on Islamic law:
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)-Islamic-law.html[8]
CIA arms smuggling to Libyan Jihadist rebels:
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)was-attacked.html[9]
http://www.businessinside(...)-benghazi-2013-8[10]
US government supported and supplied radical Islamic rebels in Benghazi, Misrata, and eastern Libya.
http://www.nytimes.com/20(...)l?pagewanted=all[11]
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44149[12]
http://www.washingtontime(...)nd-benghazigate/[13]
Here's another bit of info that shows the true colors of the Libyan rebels. They like to fly the flag of Al-Qaeda over the courthouses in Libya. Here[14] and here[15] they are doing it in Benghazi (not a big surprise really because Benghazi is the hotbed of radical Islamism in Libya and where the revolution began as I mentioned before).
The Al-Qaeda flag flying over Benghazi is relevant because western justification for supporting the Libyan rebels was to 'save Libyan lives'. But we shouldn't forget how the US and European countries extrajudicially renditioned people off to Libya to be imprisoned and tortured prior to the 2011 uprising, but then out of the blue decided the government is violating Libyan human rights, even though the west had special operations units on the ground who were actively funding the destabilization of the region, arming and training the radical Islamist rebels prior to the uprising, provoking the government to defend the Libyan people from the Jihadis (just like is happening in Syria).
Claims of human rights abuses though valid, did not warrant the destabilization of a functioning stable government that the majority of Libyans supported. And most importantly, the revolution ultimately resulted in the deaths and injuries of tens of thousands of people, which is a hundred times more than had ever allegedly been wrongly imprisoned, tortured, or killed (many times done on behalf of the CIA).
Intervention failure in Libya has created a civil war.
http://www.independent.co(...)uin-8797041.html[16]
Radical Islamists gaining strength and influence in Libya:
http://www.huffingtonpost(...)e_n_2909693.html[17]
http://www.theguardian.co(...)violence-tripoli[18]
Libya worse off than before intervention:
http://www.economist.com/(...)ar-qaddafis-downfall

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Libya: Is there Really an Alternative to Dialogue?

Libya continues to suffer the consequences from the ongoing political and armed struggle between various Libyan factions. The rise of the Islamic State (ISIS or ISIL) has further complicated matters—as has the reluctance of the international community to act assertively against other spoilers of the democratic process, contributing to Libya’s downward spiral into civil war and anarchy. The dialogue facilitated by the United Nations Support Mission in Libya (UNSMIL) remains the best hope for a political settlement in Libya. However, the dialogue faces huge challenges and was recently dealt a huge setback when the General National Congress in Tripoli and its backers outright rejected a final draft agreement presented by the head of UNSMIL Bernardino Le�n.

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alwasatengnews twitterde op woensdag 20-05-2015 om 09:27:56 4 #Misrata Brigades confirm their support for dialogue, putting an end to the fighting. #Libya http://t.co/MMpGznEO7k http://t.co/uqxOBNzodi reageer retweet

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LibyaAlHurraTV twitterde op woensdag 20-05-2015 om 01:37:37 #Libya: More evidence emerges of troop withdrawals, peace talks between factions. Majority want the conflict to end. reageer retweet

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Gadhafi’s home town Sirte falls to ISIS in anarchic Libya

SIRTE, Libya: Standing guard at his front-line post, Libyan soldier Mohammad Abu Shager can see where ISIS militants are holed up with their heavy weaponry less than a kilometer away.

The militants have effectively taken over former dictator Moammar Gadhafi’s home city of Sirte as they exploit a civil war between two rival governments to expand in North Africa.

“Every night they open fire on us,” said Abu Shebar, who with comrades on Sirte’s western outskirts holds the last position of troops belonging to one of the two warring Libyan governments, the General National Congress, which controls the capital Tripoli and most of the west of the country.

“They are only active at night,” he said, pointing to the militants’ position in a house just down the road blocked by sandbags.

He sleeps in a shed next to his firing positions where used tank shells litter the ground.

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HaraldDoornbos twitterde op woensdag 27-05-2015 om 22:00:32 Ondertussen is #IS nog gezellig aan het trainen in Benghazi, Libie.https://t.co/lKkMNEh0gU reageer retweet

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Clegg’s wife asked former Dutch FM to lobby for member of Gaddafi clique



Nick Clegg’s wife Miriam Gonz�lez asked Dutch top lobbyist Bernard Bot to lobby at the Dutch Public Prosecution Service for a businessman from Colonel Gaddafi’s clique. Bot, previous Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs, now works as a consultant for the Libyan who in the Netherlands is suspected to have diverted at least 28.5 million dollars from Libyan state funds.

Gonz�lez, a partner at law firm Dechert in London, asked Bot for help last year when Clegg was still Deputy Prime Minister for the Liberal Democrats. The suspected Libyan, Ismael A. and his family are clients of Dechert. Ismael (45) is the son-in-law of previous Libyan Prime Minister Shukri Ghanem.

Research by NRC Handelsblad shows that Ismael and his in-laws are being investigated by several countries. Norway, Switzerland, the Netherlands and the United States are investigating the Libyan millions that were stolen by the Gaddafi clique. In diverting the money, Ismael would have cooperated with Mohamed Ghanem, Shukri Ghanem’s son. He was one of Colonel Gaddafi’s confidants. When asked, Ismael denies all imputations.

Gonz�lez and Bot know each other from the period they both worked in Brussels. She worked in the cabinet of European Commissioners Patten and Ferrero-Waldner, he was a permanent representative of the Netherlands to the EU. Bot was Minister of Foreign Affairs from 2003 to 2007. After that, he became a partner at lobbying firm Meines Holla & Partners in The Hague, where he specializes in complex international matters.

In June 2013, it became known that the Dutch Fiscal Information and Investigation Service, FIOD, had raided Ismael’s residence and his company, Palladyne International Asset Management in Amsterdam. Palladyne manages 700 million dollars worth of assets from Libyan state funds. The Public Prosecution Service seized 28.5 million dollars, the amount that would have been diverted.

When Gonz�lez asked Bot for help, the issue had lasted for a year already without any willingness from the Public Prosecution Service to clarify the suspicions of money laundering, fraud and forgery, the former minister says to NRC Handelsblad. According to him, the request was if he could use his “influence” to set the case in motion again. Bot says to have complied with the request after studying the case. The former Minister doesn’t see any problems. The suspicions were “all refuted with rebuttals by the lawyers.”

Subsequently, in letters to the Dutch chief prosecutor, Bot insisted on lifting the seizure of the businessman’s possessions. He also requested that his client be given more information on the investigation, as he confirms to this newspaper. In his letters, Bot wrote that he was no advocate to the suspected Libyan businessman. Now he turns out to be the suspect’s paid consultant.

The Public Prosecution Office doesn’t want to react to Bot’s statements.

Before Gonz�lez joined Dechert at the end of 2011, she was a partner at competing law firm DLA Piper.

Earlier that year, the British press revealed that DLA Piper had lobbied for the Gaddafi regime during negotiations with the EU on illegal migration from Libya to Europe. At the time, the law firm stated Gonz�lez didn’t act on behalf of the Libyan government.

Neil Gerrard, the main lawyer at Dechert working on this file, who also worked at DLA Piper until 2011, does not wish to answer questions about clients. Miriam Gonz�lez does not respond to requests for comments.
Bron: Trouw

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Op maandag 8 juni 2015 11:24 schreef Pharmacist het volgende:
Heb dit nieuws niet echt in andere nieuwsmedia gezien dus hopelijk is het niet waar.

Isis in Libya: 86 Eritrean refugees kidnapped by Islamic State outside Tripoli

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Extremisten Libi� slaags met elkaar

Aan Al-Qaida gelieerde strijders in het oosten van Libi� hebben woensdag de oorlog verklaard aan het lokale filiaal van terreurbeweging Islamitische Staat (IS).

Aanleiding voor de vijandigheid tussen de twee extremistische groepen is de moord op een al-Qaida-leider, gepleegd door gemaskerde schutters.

De gevechten braken uit nadat de gemaskerde schutters in Darna het vuur hadden geopend op Nas Akr van Al-Qaida. De 55-jarige Akr en een van zijn vertrouwelingen werden gedood. Bij de gevechten die hierna uitbraken, kwamen zeker negen IS-strijders en twee leden van Akrs groep om.

Akrs groep, de Shura Raad van Darna's Jihadisten, zei in een verklaring dat IS achter de dood van hun leider zat. De groep beschuldigt IS van 'tirannie en criminaliteit' en zweert een 'heilige oorlog te voeren totdat er niemand van hen meer over is'. De groep roept inwoners van Darna op in opstand te komen tegen IS.

IS wist Darna vorig jaar in te nemen na de terugkeer van doorgewinterde militanten uit Irak en Syri�.

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Parlement Libi� verwerpt regeringsplan Verenigde Naties

De internationaal erkende regering van Libi� in Tobruk heeft een plan van de Verenigde Naties (VN) voor een eenheidsregering verworpen.

De rivaliserende islamistische regering in Tripoli krijgt met het plan te veel macht, stelt het parlement.

De delegatie is teruggeroepen van onderhandelingen in de Marokkaanse stad Skhirat en blijft mogelijk ook weg bij een crisisoverleg in Berlijn woensdag.

In Libi� zijn twee regeringen die proberen de controle te krijgen over de verdeelde bevolking van het Noord-Afrikaanse land. De VN probeert de regeringen in Tobruk en Tripoli bij elkaar te brengen, maar dat is voor de vierde keer mislukt.

In het olierijke land wordt al maandenlang gevochten door gewapende bendes en milities van de twee regeringen.

In Berlijn is woensdag een crisisoverleg gepland voor de situatie in Libi�. Het is de bedoeling dat delegaties van beide regeringen om de tafel gaan zitten.

Ook is er een bemiddelaar van de VN en zijn er delegaties van de vijf permanente leden van de VN-Veiligheidsraad uitgenodigd.

_{Door: ANP}

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In Libya, a popular uprising pushes ISIL out of Derna

A popular uprising in the Libyan port of Derna over the weekend has achieved the previously unthinkable – the expulsion of ISIL brigades who had been holding the town.

Protests and fighting triggered by the public execution of a popular local postman spiralled into an uprising that has seen a rare reverse for the extremist group that had been gaining ground across Libya.

Derna’s celebrations may be short-lived because the militia spearheading the fighting, and now claiming control of the town, is an Al Qaeda affiliate, the Abu Salim Martyrs Brigade.

But for the moment Derna is locked in euphoria with one image above all flooding social media - crowds of citizens dumping ISIL’s black flag from buildings and flyovers and replacing it with the Libyan tricolor.

Protests against ISIL’s public executions in the 12 months since it established its rule in Derna began on Friday and demonstrators came under fire from its units in the town centre.

Later that day, the Abu Salim Martyrs Brigade, named after 1,200 prisoners massacred by former dictator Muammar Qaddafi in a Tripoli prison of the same name in 1996, led attacks on the ISIL-held police headquarters.

As fighting intensified on Saturday, three ISIL suicide bombers blew themselves up in a desperate attempt to fight back, with battles raging from street to street.

Government airstrikes then hit ISIL positions, and fighting that day saw 25 people reported killed. It was unclear how many of these were ISIL fighters.

On Sunday, Abu Salim Martyrs leaders proclaimed the town was under their control. ISIL, their bases overrun, fled for the forested hills of the Green Mountains.

Meanwhile, forces from the internationally recognised government, which is based in Tobruk, are pushing towards the town from the east, attacking an ISIL base at Ras Al Hilal, 45 kilometres from Derna.

Local militiamen and police have now captured more than 150 ISIL fighters, made up of Libyans and foreigners, parading them in trucks around the town centre.

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alwasatengnews twitterde op woensdag 17-06-2015 om 02:11:38 #Derna's Al-Atiq Mosque where #ISIS murdered its victims, being cleaned and restored by area residents. #Libya http://t.co/oMlfToZHHt reageer retweet

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Support for peace arrangements in west continues

The number of western towns in Libya backing a peace accord continues to grow. The process, which started with deals between Zintan, Gharyan and Zawia, has now extended include Misrata, Sabratha, Surman, Rajban, Rigdaleen, Jadu, Yefren, Nalut, Kikla, Al-Jmail, and Zliten. Municipal leaders have reportedly all agreed that their forces should stop fighting, return to base and that the Libyan National Army (LNA) should take responsibility for security in their areas.

The only town west of Tripoli not to have joined the process so far is Zuwara. However, the others are reported to have given it notice to follow their lead, to accept the LNA and, as well, to hand over the border crossing at Ras Jedir to it.

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French spies secretly organized and funded the Libyan rebels who defeated Moammar Gadhafi, according to confidential emails to Hillary Clinton that were made public on June 22.

The memos from Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal contradict the popular French narrative about its intervention in Libya, raising fresh questions about a war that toppled a dictator but left chaos and radicalism in his stead. They were allegedly written by retired CIA operative Tyler Drumheller and released by a special congressional panel investigating the 2012 attack on the US mission in Benghazi.

The oft-repeated media tale in France holds that then-President Nicolas Sarkozy was outraged by Gadhafi’s crackdown on protesters in February 2011 but had no clear idea who to support. Enter a swash-buckling “intellectual,” Bernard-Henri Levy, who met with Transitional National Council leader Mustafa Abdul Jalil on March 4, immediately called Sarkozy, and had the French president invite Jalil to the Elysee Palace — and recognize the council as the country’s official government by March 10.

The emails to Clinton tell a distinctly less heroic story.

According to one entry from March 22, 2011, “officers” with the General Directorate for External Security — the French intelligence service — “began a series of secret meetings” with Jalil and Gen. Abdul Fatah Younis in Benghazi in late February and gave them “money and guidance” to set up the council, whose formation was announced Feb. 27. The officers, “speaking under orders from [Sarkozy] promised that as soon as the [council] was organized France would recognize [it] as the new government of Libya.”

“In return for their assistance,” the memo states, “the DGSE officers indicated that they expected the new government of Libya to favor French firms and national interests, particularly regarding the oil industry in Libya.”

The email goes on to state that Jalil and Younis “accepted this offer” and “have maintained contact with the DGSE officers in Cairo.” The memo is titled, “How the French created the National Libyan Council, ou l’argent parle.”

Another memo dated May 5 asserts that individuals close to the council stated “in strictest confidence” that as early as mid-April 2011 French humanitarian flights also included “executives from the French company TOTAL, the large construction from VINCI and the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company N.V. (EADS).” Subsequent flights have allegedly carried representatives “from the conglomerate THALYS and other large French firms, all with close ties to [Sarkozy].”

“After meeting with the [council] these French business executives leave discreetly by road, via Tobruk to Egypt,” the memo states. “These convoys are organized and protected by para-military officers [from the DGSE].”

The memo adds that Levy himself came up with the idea and obtained the council’s signature on an agreement to give French firms “favorable consideration” in business matters. He is said to have used “his status as a journalist to provide cover for his activities.”

A later memo, from September 2011, asserts that Sarkozy urged the Libyans to reserve 35% of their oil industry for French firms — Total in particular — when he traveled to Tripoli that month. In the end, however, Italy’s Eni came out ahead with Russian and Chinese firms biding their time, even as the Libyan oil production plummeted because of the civil war.

The veracity of the memos’ content is difficult if not impossible to ascertain.

While Levy has long been a controversial figure in France, the council was riven by internal rivalries. Younis himself was assassinated in July 2011 — at Jalil’s urging according to an Aug. 8 memo to Clinton. And Drumheller himself has courted controversy for his role in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war, with liberals celebrating him as a truth-teller and conservatives saying he helped concoct some of the false information he later debunked.

The French Embassy in Washington declined to comment, not even to refute the allegations. The French Defense Department, which oversees the DGSE, also declined to comment.

“Our press office has received your query and thanks you for your interest in Defense matters,” the agency told Al-Monitor in an emailed statement. “Surely you must realize the Department of Defense isn’t going to answer your question.”

The State Department also declined to comment on the contents of the Clinton emails, which were sent to a private email account that she maintained when she was secretary of state. Republicans have latched on to the controversial email use to undermine Clinton’s presidential run and accused the State Department of failing to turn them over to the special committee.

“These emails should have been part of the public record when Secretary Clinton left office and at a bare minimum included when the State Department released Clinton's self-selected records on Libya,” committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said in a statement June 22. “For that reason, the committee has made the decision to release the latest set of Clinton's public records unearthed by the committee.”

French spymasters’ role in Libya has been alluded to before, most notably in the 2012 book “The Truth About our War in Libya” by French historian Jean-Christophe Notin. That book said Henry-Levy’s role in the French decision to go to war had been overblown.

“All has not been said about this war, because it has only had one narrator: Bernard-Henri Levy,” Notin told L’Express magazine. “Yes, he was one of the Libyans’ interlocutors. But his telling glosses over not only the coalition’s military exploits, but also the underground work of diplomatic and military officials on the ground, sometimes for quite some time, in Libya.”

Other memos released June 22 give credence to the notion that Sarkozy was determined from the start of the uprising to get rid of Gadhafi, despite earlier efforts to court him after he abandoned his weapons program and sought closer ties with the West. A March 20 memo, for instance, states that Sarkozy “plans to have France lead the attacks on [Gadhafi] over an extended period of time” and “sees this situation as an opportunity for France to reassert itself as a military power.”

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2015 19:42 schreef reza1 het volgende:
Emails to Hillary contradict French tale on Libya war

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2015 19:50 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:

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lol, NAVO's "meest succesvolle interventie" diende dus vooral om Franse bedrijven te helpen. En dan mislukt het ook nog...

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Op woensdag 24 juni 2015 19:50 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
lol, NAVO's "meest succesvolle interventie" diende dus vooral om Franse bedrijven te helpen. En dan mislukt het ook nog...

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The Libyan Army Advances West of Tripoli

Over the last several weeks, the Libyan National Army (LNA) advanced west of Tripoli, as the Western Region Operations Room reached a series of truces with western cities and towns in the outer environs of the capital city. Since the armed takeover of the Libyan capital in the summer of 2014 by the Libya Dawn coalition, the LNA, which remains loyal to the exiled House of Representatives (HoR) government, has continued to fight against Libya Dawn along the outskirts of the city and the surrounding areas. Despite an initially successful army offensive in late March to retake several towns south of Tripoli, advances in recent months have stalled without significant gains by either side. The recent shift in momentum indicates a concerted effort by the LNA and its allies to consolidate their strength in preparation for an offensive to retake the capital city.

The LNA advance is spearheaded by a series of ceasefire agreements between local groups loyal to the LNA and the leadership of cities previously loyal to Libya Dawn, strategically establishing peace deals with municipalities surrounding the capital. On 11 June, after a week of negotiations, the pro-LNA stronghold of Zintan reached a ceasefire with the city of Gharyan, south of Tripoli, which supported the Tripoli-based government (the General National Congress [GNC]) and affiliated Libya Dawn militias. Leaders from Zintan and the pro-LNA town of Rajban signed an agreement similar to the Gharyan deal on 14 June with local leaders from the western cities of Jumayl, Riqdalin, Zaltan, and Assah. Yet another reconciliation deal was reached three days later on 17 June with previously pro-Dawn cities of Sabratha, Surman, and Ajaylat. These agreements allegedly allowed pro-LNA forces to enter and secure these cities,several of which has been strongly supportive of Libya Dawn. The accords shifted the majority of the population centers west of Tripoli into tacit if not explicit support for the HoR, while moving LNA forces closer to the Libya Dawn stronghold.

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The recent advances west of Tripoli indicates a shift in the LNA’s strategic calculus in the region. Much of this is likely based on the situation in Misrata, a coastal city that provides critical military and political support to Libya Dawn. Misrata-based militias have sought ceasefires and reconciliation talks with the LNA in the west independently of the Tripoli government and the city’s Municipal Council has increasingly chafed under the GNC’s attempts to limit the city’s autonomy. Misrata also criticized the GNC for failing to adequately deal with the emergence of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) in the city of Sirte.

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Libya's internationally recognised government was accused by a rights group on Wednesday of the torture and ill-treatment of prisoners it holds in the east of the country.
The "government and its allied forces are responsible for widespread arbitrary detentions and for torture and other ill treatment", a statement from Human Rights Watch alleged.

The New York-based watchdog said it had obtained access to jails at Bayda and second city Benghazi, currently in the hands of forces loyal to Libya's internationally recognised administration.

Detainees said they had been forced to confess to crimes under torture and "described other abuses, including lack of due process, lack of medical care... and poor conditions", HRW said.

The group found that the most common torture method reported involved detainees being beaten with plastic pipes on the soles of their feet.

Others were beaten with electrical cables, chains or sticks, it said.

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Strijdende partijen Libi� ondertekenen VN-akkoord

De meeste strijdende partijen in Libi� hebben zaterdagavond in de Marokkaanse stad Skhirat het door de Verenigde Naties (VN) voorgestelde 'vredes- en verzoeningsakkoord' ondertekend. De vertegenwoordigers van het parlement in Tripoli bleven afwezig.

'Het is werkelijk een belangrijke stap in het vredesproces', verklaarde Bernardino L�on, de VN-afgevaardigde voor Libi�. Bij de ondertekening waren vertegenwoordigers van het Libische parlement in Tobroek en vertegenwoordigers van de gemeenten, de politieke partijen en het maatschappelijk middenveld aanwezig.

Belangrijkste afwezigen waren de vertegenwoordigers van het parlement in Tripoli. Het bestand, waarin onder meer melding wordt gemaakt van de vorming van een regering van nationale eenheid en van de organisatie van nieuwe verkiezingen, was dinsdag namelijk verworpen door dat parlement. L�on benadrukte dat 'de deur open blijft' voor de afwezigen.

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Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 00:57:09 Signing with initials means the sealing of what has been achieved so far - lots of details to be agreed yet. Annexes to follow. #Libya reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:09:39 Despite the challenges - Signing with initials will give some clarity to the international community on how to handle the #Libya-n crisis. reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:12:24 Armed groups with heavy presence in #Tripoli are against the deal being signed in Morocco tonight. a huge immediate challenge. #Libya reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:17:25 Encouraging/positive reconciliatory tone from #Misrata's Fathi Bashagha. #Libya reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:26:41 Next stage for #Libya's dialogue will involved finalizing annexes and agreeing on the Prime Minister and his two deputies & Gov. reageer retweet

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LibyaAlHurraTV twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 04:16:10 Canada,EU,France, Germany,Italy,Morocco,Portugal,Russia,Spain, Turkey,UK&US welcome agreement by #Libya's majority http://t.co/0QLnqd3Y82 reageer retweet

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Op zondag 12 juli 2015 20:52 schreef al-qahira het volgende:
Zo zie je maar weer, geen enkel woord van het westen over het martelen van mensen door het nieuwe regime maar toen Kadafi er nog was continu klagen. En nu ook bij Assad weer.

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Op zondag 12 juli 2015 21:07 schreef UpsideDown het volgende:

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Het land zit dan ook tjokvol terroristen en er woedt een burgeroorlog, martelingen zijn an sich niks bijzonders.

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Op zondag 12 juli 2015 20:52 schreef al-qahira het volgende:
Zo zie je maar weer, geen enkel woord van het westen over het martelen van mensen door het nieuwe regime

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Security Council condemns cases of torture and mistreatment in illegal detention centres in Libya

“The Members of the Security Council condemned cases of torture and mistreatment observed in illegal detention centers in Libya. They emphasized that practices of torture and extra-judicial killing should not be tolerated. They called upon the Libyan authorities to investigate all violations of human rights and bring the perpetrators of such acts to justice. In that regard, the Members of the Security Council welcomed recent legislative initiatives undertaken by the General National Congress in Libya. They also noted the importance of the cooperation of the Libyan authorities with the International Criminal Court and the Prosecutor.”

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maar toen Kadafi er nog was continu klagen. En nu ook bij Assad weer.

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Western powers ask Qatar and Turkey to convince reluctant GNC to sign Libya peace deal

According to the London based Al-Hayat Newspaper, the U.S., UK and France have asked Qatar to make an effort to convince the General National Congress to accept the UN sponsored peace deal initialed in Morocco on Saturday. Sources have also said that Turkey's contribution to this agreement will be of "great importance".

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Libya’s New Peace Deal Has a Serious Flaw

First, the good news: The United Nations has finally persuaded most of Libya’s warring factions to sign a peace agreement. Now the bad news: one of the main players has opted out, posing a major obstacle to the peace process.

This absence of a major participant in Libya’s grinding civil war — the Islamist-dominated government in Tripoli — is the immediate challenge facing the deal. Known as the General National Congress (GNC), this faction is the main opponent of the internationally recognized administration now headquartered in the cities of Tobruk and Bayda in the country’s east. (The Tobruk government has agreed to the deal.)

The GNC’s refusal to countenance the deal is important because it controls all of the government institutions in Tripoli, Libya’s capital.

The GNC’s refusal to countenance the deal is important because it controls all of the government institutions in Tripoli, Libya’s capital. Though the agreement sets up a framework for a new government to run the country, the GNC’s unwillingness to sign means that a future administration won’t have access to the buildings and infrastructure belonging to the various ministries. The new government will also find itself confronting hostile militias and controversial political and religious figures such as Grand Mufti Sadiq al-Gheriani, Libya’s senior Sunni cleric, who has already begun denouncing the peace agreement as one-sided and irrelevant (noting that it will have little validity without the GNC’s participation). All this threatens to undermine the fragile peace deal.

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Tears rolled down Khadija’s cheeks as the 17-seater plane – the whirr of its propellers deafening in the cabin – began its descent into the capital of a country crippled by war. The hope she’d felt of a better future for Libya after the ousting of dictator Col Muammar Gaddafi had long soured into resentment and fear. Now she was flying back into her homeland from exile. An uncle had been killed and she needed to attend his funeral.
“It wasn’t meant to be like this,” she said. “We have lost our dignity. We fought Gaddafi so that we could speak freely. Now it’s the same as before, but with less security.”
Many of her countrymen agree with her. Since the end of the 2011 Nato-backed war that toppled Gaddafi, Libya has fragmented – with two rival governments and their allied armed gangs vying for power. Nascent democracy has been supplanted by a system of repression and fear. Militias have become the most powerful players in a country devoid of the rule of law, of a national army or a police force. Anyone opposing them, be they politician or civilian, is silenced – often at gunpoint.
A policeman from the Nawasi brigade questions a motorist in Tripoli's Martyr's Square (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
In the new Libya, just as in the old, speaking out against those wielding power is enough see you threatened, or killed. There was, many admit, a “golden age” in the months immediately after the end of Gaddafi’s 40-year-rule. But it was not long before factionalism began to spin out of control. Now that brief, optimistic interregnum is spoken of nostalgically, as thought it were a distant era.
In fact it was only three years ago, in 2012, that Libyans rushed to the polls to vote for their first democratically elected government. Newspapers proliferated. Misrata, Libya’s merchant second city, had 23. In the conference halls of five-star hotels, wise men gathered to debate the finer details of the country’s new constitution. But when the business of governing began in earnest, things began to go wrong.
It had taken a war of eight months to remove a tyrant, but it soon became clear that the mentality of the people subjugated to his rule would need much longer to change. With no established social base for democracy, Libya’s new rulers resorted to the politics of old. Corruption became worse even than during Gaddafi’s regime, as every politician secured his seat with nepotism and patronage. “Every time a new prime minister arrived, he sacked the staff across departments and institutions and brought in his own people,” said Mohsen Derregia, the former head of the Libyan Investment Authority, the body managing the country’s $65 billion sovereign wealth fund. “In four years LIA had six chairmen. Barely had you learnt to do the job than you were moved on.”
Libya’s oil-rich economy began to founder. Under a succession of weak governments, and with few other job opportunities, fighting groups formed to oust Gaddafi refused to disband. Instead, each accused the other of secretly being Gaddafi loyalists, and gunfights broke out once again as they battled for control of key public facilities.
In Tripoli the fighting between militias from Misrata and the mountain town of Zintan, saw hundreds of people killed. Their fight for Tripoli’s international airport ended with the terminal burned to the ground. Rows of planes, some gutted by fire, others riddled with bullet holes and with bits of their wings broken off, stand abandoned on the closed runway, in silent testimony to the chaos.
The wreckage of what was once the departure lounge at Tripoli International Airport, Libya
With everyone keen to stake their claim to wealth and power in the new Libya, and to prove their involvement in the revolution that toppled the old, the number of militiamen burgeoned from the estimated 40,000 fighters during the 2011 war, to 160,000. In their midst, Islamic extremists began to thrive. Ansar Sharia, the hardline jihadi group accused of killing US ambassador Chris Stevens, grew in strength. Facebook, once a platform for opponents of Gaddafi to arrange protests, became a tool of repression.
“Last year I received death threats after I wrote a public post on Facebook, criticising the fighting between militias,” said one young resident of Misrata, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals. “I hate what is happening here. Why are they doing this? How can they raise a weapon against men who were their brothers in the revolution?
The eastern city of Benghazi, the “capital of the revolution”, where the first anti-Gaddafi protests took place in 2011, became a murky, dangerous place. Some estimates suggest 200 people have been assassinated. The dead include liberals and campaigners, as well as victims of federalists who want to separate the east from the west.
Last August, Libya Dawn, a coalition of militias including Islamists, seized control of the capital, Tripoli, sending those in parliament fleeing to Tobruk. There the parliamentarians allied themselves with Khalifa Haftar, a former general in Gaddafi’s army who once worked for the CIA. Gathering up his own broad coalition, which includes a large number of soldiers from the old regime, Haftar has declared war on Libya Dawn – which he dismissed as a band of terrorists. As the anarchy in Libya resolves into these two warring factions, freedom of speech is being pushed ever further underground.
Young men play table football in Martyr Square (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
By day, a veneer of normality lacquers the capital. Shops, including international brand names such as Mango, and Marks and Spencer are open. Traffic is gridlocked. Cosmopolitan Libyan girls gossip over cappuccinos in one of the city’s many Costa Coffee shops. Men in plain clothes drive police cars, and soldiers in pick-up trucks wearing mismatched uniforms enforce the law. “We are here for security,” said Captain Murad, 40, the commander of the Nawasi brigade, one of the biggest militias under Libya Dawn in Tripoli. “Our men police the streets. We stop crime.”
Policemen belonging to the Nawasi brigade conduct traffic searches in Tripoli's Martyr's Square (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
On one recent Thursday night – the start of the weekend in Libya – I joined the Nawasi brigade on patrol. Wearing green masks to hide their faces, the militiamen set up flying checkpoints. They pulled over cars without licence plates to check if they were stolen. They searched the seats and boots for drugs.
All very unobjectionable. But residents repeatedly told me that, as well as stopping petty crime, militias use their power to destroy opponents. Last month in Tripoli, the body of Intissar Hassairi, a female political activist, was found in the boot of her car. Government prosecutors in Tripoli told me she had been killed in a “simple family dispute”. This may yet be the case. But in the days after her murder, the policeman who took fingerprints at the scene also disappeared. Ms Hassairi’s boyfriend fled the country. A friend told me her family was too afraid to talk.
Women look in the window of a dress shop in Tripoli (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
A pervasive sense of fear is barely concealed below the surface in Libya today.
“Are you sure no one followed you?” asked Murad, a civil rights activist, looking nervously around the caf� in Tripoli. Lighting a cigarette, the young man sighed. “Freedom of speech is the big fear for Libyan Dawn. Mind you, if I was on the other side [in east Libya] I’d be scared of the militias there, too.” Murad, who spoke using a pseudonym, explained how he had been part of a pro-democracy group that since 2012 had been encouraging fighting factions to settle debate through the ballot box.
After the outbreak of hostilities between Haftar and Libya Dawn, however, his work became impossible. “If you criticised Dawn they accused you of being with Haftar,” he said. And vice versa.
Such chaos, the ever-present threats, have driven thousands into exile. Looking nervously through the window of the plane bringing her home for her uncle’s funeral, Khadija is one of them. She fled Libya in 2013. Many of Murad’s colleagues have gone too, forced out by the factionalism and gangsterism that has brought their country to the brink of civil war.
“These people, they say they are doing this to keep us safe and to protect the revolution against Gaddafi supporters,” said Murad. “But it’s been four years. Gaddafi is over. This is about everyone getting as much money as they can. The options now are military rule, like before – or chaos. I am at the point where I just want to have a stable country. Democracy just feels too far beyond our reach.”

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Zoon van Gaddafi krijgt doodstraf - VN: diep geschokt

Saif al-Islam heeft de doodstraf gekregen voor zijn rol bij het neerslaan van de opstand die in 2011 leidde tot het instorten van het Gadaffi-regime.

Een Libische rechtbank heeft vanochtend de zoon van voormalig dictator Moammar Gaddafi, Saif al-Islam, ter dood veroordeeld. Ook een voormalige chef van de veiligheidsdienst en een oud-premier hebben de doodstraf gekregen.

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Eljarh twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 20:25:01 Salafists vow to fight #ISIS in #Sirte a day after one of their leading leaders was assassinated in #Sirte. Clashes reported already #Libya reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 21:47:26 #Libya Clashes between #ISIS and Salafists in #Sirte. Armed civilians reportedly fighting alongside the Salafists against #ISIS. #Libya reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 22:11:21 #Libya's air force is providing some air support to Salafists and armed civilians battling #ISIS in #Sirte. A tougher battle than Derna's. reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 22:13:44 To defeat #ISIS in #Sirte either #Misrata's forces that withdrew many wks back return &take on #ISIS or for LNA to send forces to #Sirte. reageer retweet

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GhaithShennib twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 22:20:13 2 civilians were killed and 4 others wounded as #Sirte's clashes continued in the area of al-Tweela near the city's university reageer retweet

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GhaithShennib twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 22:29:01 al-Nabaa TV: Libya's GNC in #Tripoli declares Army operation to liberate #Sirte from #ISIS reageer retweet

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Eljarh twitterde op dinsdag 11-08-2015 om 22:05:50 #Libya My latest piece on reemergence of Qaddafi supporters to the streets of a disillusioned #Libya http://t.co/A3SQAzzYva @FP_DemLab reageer retweet