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Isis in Libya: 86 Eritrean refugees kidnapped by Islamic State outside Tripoli
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Isis in Libya: 86 Eritrean refugees kidnapped by Islamic State outside Tripoli
Toch mooi dat de bevolking zo bevrijd is van die 'verschrikkelijke' Kadafi.
  woensdag 10 juni 2015 @ 15:25:30 #228
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Extremisten Libië slaags met elkaar

Aan Al-Qaida gelieerde strijders in het oosten van Libië hebben woensdag de oorlog verklaard aan het lokale filiaal van terreurbeweging Islamitische Staat (IS).


Aanleiding voor de vijandigheid tussen de twee extremistische groepen is de moord op een al-Qaida-leider, gepleegd door gemaskerde schutters.

De gevechten braken uit nadat de gemaskerde schutters in Darna het vuur hadden geopend op Nas Akr van Al-Qaida. De 55-jarige Akr en een van zijn vertrouwelingen werden gedood. Bij de gevechten die hierna uitbraken, kwamen zeker negen IS-strijders en twee leden van Akrs groep om.

Akrs groep, de Shura Raad van Darna's Jihadisten, zei in een verklaring dat IS achter de dood van hun leider zat. De groep beschuldigt IS van 'tirannie en criminaliteit' en zweert een 'heilige oorlog te voeren totdat er niemand van hen meer over is'. De groep roept inwoners van Darna op in opstand te komen tegen IS.

IS wist Darna vorig jaar in te nemen na de terugkeer van doorgewinterde militanten uit Irak en Syrië.
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  woensdag 10 juni 2015 @ 15:26:12 #229
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Parlement Libië verwerpt regeringsplan Verenigde Naties

De internationaal erkende regering van Libië in Tobruk heeft een plan van de Verenigde Naties (VN) voor een eenheidsregering verworpen.


De rivaliserende islamistische regering in Tripoli krijgt met het plan te veel macht, stelt het parlement.

De delegatie is teruggeroepen van onderhandelingen in de Marokkaanse stad Skhirat en blijft mogelijk ook weg bij een crisisoverleg in Berlijn woensdag.

In Libië zijn twee regeringen die proberen de controle te krijgen over de verdeelde bevolking van het Noord-Afrikaanse land. De VN probeert de regeringen in Tobruk en Tripoli bij elkaar te brengen, maar dat is voor de vierde keer mislukt.

In het olierijke land wordt al maandenlang gevochten door gewapende bendes en milities van de twee regeringen.

In Berlijn is woensdag een crisisoverleg gepland voor de situatie in Libië. Het is de bedoeling dat delegaties van beide regeringen om de tafel gaan zitten.

Ook is er een bemiddelaar van de VN en zijn er delegaties van de vijf permanente leden van de VN-Veiligheidsraad uitgenodigd.

Door: ANP
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  zondag 14 juni 2015 @ 23:41:07 #230
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@AFP: #BREAKING US carries out strike on 'Al-Qaeda-associated terrorist' in Libya: Pentagon

Edit: deze ransaap is kaput

@HebaShibani: the #US airstrike was done with the knowledge of the #LibyanGov and it killed al-Qaida operative Mokhtar ben Mokhtar http://t.co/sGAa0GMQX0

@janeikelboom: De in Libië gedode Al Qaida terrorist Mokhtar Belmokhtar had zijn eigen vermelding op Wikipedia https://t.co/r3P6X9d2r3

Ondertussen is ISIS Dernaa zo goed als uitgekickt
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
  maandag 15 juni 2015 @ 00:01:24 #231
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Achja ze hangen toch in de lucht, ook Libië maar even meepakken.
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Het zit Daesh niet mee de afgelopen week. Het lijkt erop dat ze nu volledig uit de stad Derna zijn verjaagd door de lokale bevolking, de Abu Salim Martyrs Brigade en luchtaanvallen van het Libische leger.

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In Libya, a popular uprising pushes ISIL out of Derna

A popular uprising in the Libyan port of Derna over the weekend has achieved the previously unthinkable – the expulsion of ISIL brigades who had been holding the town.

Protests and fighting triggered by the public execution of a popular local postman spiralled into an uprising that has seen a rare reverse for the extremist group that had been gaining ground across Libya.

Derna’s celebrations may be short-lived because the militia spearheading the fighting, and now claiming control of the town, is an Al Qaeda affiliate, the Abu Salim Martyrs Brigade.

But for the moment Derna is locked in euphoria with one image above all flooding social media - crowds of citizens dumping ISIL’s black flag from buildings and flyovers and replacing it with the Libyan tricolor.

Protests against ISIL’s public executions in the 12 months since it established its rule in Derna began on Friday and demonstrators came under fire from its units in the town centre.

Later that day, the Abu Salim Martyrs Brigade, named after 1,200 prisoners massacred by former dictator Muammar Qaddafi in a Tripoli prison of the same name in 1996, led attacks on the ISIL-held police headquarters.

As fighting intensified on Saturday, three ISIL suicide bombers blew themselves up in a desperate attempt to fight back, with battles raging from street to street.

Government airstrikes then hit ISIL positions, and fighting that day saw 25 people reported killed. It was unclear how many of these were ISIL fighters.

On Sunday, Abu Salim Martyrs leaders proclaimed the town was under their control. ISIL, their bases overrun, fled for the forested hills of the Green Mountains.

Meanwhile, forces from the internationally recognised government, which is based in Tobruk, are pushing towards the town from the east, attacking an ISIL base at Ras Al Hilal, 45 kilometres from Derna.

Local militiamen and police have now captured more than 150 ISIL fighters, made up of Libyans and foreigners, parading them in trucks around the town centre.
alwasatengnews twitterde op woensdag 17-06-2015 om 02:11:38 #Derna's Al-Atiq Mosque where #ISIS murdered its victims, being cleaned and restored by area residents. #Libya http://t.co/oMlfToZHHt reageer retweet
alwasatengnews twitterde op dinsdag 16-06-2015 om 22:20:30 #Libya Flag up in #Derna, public works resume & 1st traffic officer in years on the streetshttp://t.co/nQ7Zf3MMqm http://t.co/tb857z3pwp reageer retweet
Ben benieuwd of het zo blijft.

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Support for peace arrangements in west continues

The number of western towns in Libya backing a peace accord continues to grow. The process, which started with deals between Zintan, Gharyan and Zawia, has now extended include Misrata, Sabratha, Surman, Rajban, Rigdaleen, Jadu, Yefren, Nalut, Kikla, Al-Jmail, and Zliten. Municipal leaders have reportedly all agreed that their forces should stop fighting, return to base and that the Libyan National Army (LNA) should take responsibility for security in their areas.

The only town west of Tripoli not to have joined the process so far is Zuwara. However, the others are reported to have given it notice to follow their lead, to accept the LNA and, as well, to hand over the border crossing at Ras Jedir to it.
Belangrijke ontwikkeling. Als er inderdaad een vredesakkoord komt tussen Zintan en Misrata zijn de milities en de GNC in Tripoli geïsoleerd. Misrata is namelijk op afstand de sterkste militaire kracht van de Dawn-alliantie.
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Emails to Hillary contradict French tale on Libya war
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French spies secretly organized and funded the Libyan rebels who defeated Moammar Gadhafi, according to confidential emails to Hillary Clinton that were made public on June 22.

The memos from Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal contradict the popular French narrative about its intervention in Libya, raising fresh questions about a war that toppled a dictator but left chaos and radicalism in his stead. They were allegedly written by retired CIA operative Tyler Drumheller and released by a special congressional panel investigating the 2012 attack on the US mission in Benghazi.

The oft-repeated media tale in France holds that then-President Nicolas Sarkozy was outraged by Gadhafi’s crackdown on protesters in February 2011 but had no clear idea who to support. Enter a swash-buckling “intellectual,” Bernard-Henri Levy, who met with Transitional National Council leader Mustafa Abdul Jalil on March 4, immediately called Sarkozy, and had the French president invite Jalil to the Elysee Palace — and recognize the council as the country’s official government by March 10.

The emails to Clinton tell a distinctly less heroic story.

According to one entry from March 22, 2011, “officers” with the General Directorate for External Security — the French intelligence service — “began a series of secret meetings” with Jalil and Gen. Abdul Fatah Younis in Benghazi in late February and gave them “money and guidance” to set up the council, whose formation was announced Feb. 27. The officers, “speaking under orders from [Sarkozy] promised that as soon as the [council] was organized France would recognize [it] as the new government of Libya.”

“In return for their assistance,” the memo states, “the DGSE officers indicated that they expected the new government of Libya to favor French firms and national interests, particularly regarding the oil industry in Libya.”

The email goes on to state that Jalil and Younis “accepted this offer” and “have maintained contact with the DGSE officers in Cairo.” The memo is titled, “How the French created the National Libyan Council, ou l’argent parle.”

Another memo dated May 5 asserts that individuals close to the council stated “in strictest confidence” that as early as mid-April 2011 French humanitarian flights also included “executives from the French company TOTAL, the large construction from VINCI and the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company N.V. (EADS).” Subsequent flights have allegedly carried representatives “from the conglomerate THALYS and other large French firms, all with close ties to [Sarkozy].”

“After meeting with the [council] these French business executives leave discreetly by road, via Tobruk to Egypt,” the memo states. “These convoys are organized and protected by para-military officers [from the DGSE].”

The memo adds that Levy himself came up with the idea and obtained the council’s signature on an agreement to give French firms “favorable consideration” in business matters. He is said to have used “his status as a journalist to provide cover for his activities.”

A later memo, from September 2011, asserts that Sarkozy urged the Libyans to reserve 35% of their oil industry for French firms — Total in particular — when he traveled to Tripoli that month. In the end, however, Italy’s Eni came out ahead with Russian and Chinese firms biding their time, even as the Libyan oil production plummeted because of the civil war.

The veracity of the memos’ content is difficult if not impossible to ascertain.

While Levy has long been a controversial figure in France, the council was riven by internal rivalries. Younis himself was assassinated in July 2011 — at Jalil’s urging according to an Aug. 8 memo to Clinton. And Drumheller himself has courted controversy for his role in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war, with liberals celebrating him as a truth-teller and conservatives saying he helped concoct some of the false information he later debunked.

The French Embassy in Washington declined to comment, not even to refute the allegations. The French Defense Department, which oversees the DGSE, also declined to comment.

“Our press office has received your query and thanks you for your interest in Defense matters,” the agency told Al-Monitor in an emailed statement. “Surely you must realize the Department of Defense isn’t going to answer your question.”

The State Department also declined to comment on the contents of the Clinton emails, which were sent to a private email account that she maintained when she was secretary of state. Republicans have latched on to the controversial email use to undermine Clinton’s presidential run and accused the State Department of failing to turn them over to the special committee.

“These emails should have been part of the public record when Secretary Clinton left office and at a bare minimum included when the State Department released Clinton's self-selected records on Libya,” committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said in a statement June 22. “For that reason, the committee has made the decision to release the latest set of Clinton's public records unearthed by the committee.”

French spymasters’ role in Libya has been alluded to before, most notably in the 2012 book “The Truth About our War in Libya” by French historian Jean-Christophe Notin. That book said Henry-Levy’s role in the French decision to go to war had been overblown.

“All has not been said about this war, because it has only had one narrator: Bernard-Henri Levy,” Notin told L’Express magazine. “Yes, he was one of the Libyans’ interlocutors. But his telling glosses over not only the coalition’s military exploits, but also the underground work of diplomatic and military officials on the ground, sometimes for quite some time, in Libya.”

Other memos released June 22 give credence to the notion that Sarkozy was determined from the start of the uprising to get rid of Gadhafi, despite earlier efforts to court him after he abandoned his weapons program and sought closer ties with the West. A March 20 memo, for instance, states that Sarkozy “plans to have France lead the attacks on [Gadhafi] over an extended period of time” and “sees this situation as an opportunity for France to reassert itself as a military power.”
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lol, NAVO's "meest succesvolle interventie" diende dus vooral om Franse bedrijven te helpen. En dan mislukt het ook nog...
Ich glaube, dass es manchmal nicht genügend Steine gibt und
Ich bin mir sicher, dass auch schöne Augen weinen
  woensdag 24 juni 2015 @ 21:19:52 #235
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lol, NAVO's "meest succesvolle interventie" diende dus vooral om Franse bedrijven te helpen. En dan mislukt het ook nog...
Dit lag er natuurlijk allang dik bovenop, maar goed dat er nu meer naar buiten komt. Helaas is het kwaad al geschied en wilde niemand luisteren toen deze absurde oorlog tegen khadaffi nog tegen te houden was... Lachwekkend natuurlijk dat de Fransen de doelen die ze hadden met deze interventie niet hebben kunnen waarmaken, Sarkozy zou hiervoor als hoofdverantwoordelijke naar het oorlogstribunaal in den Haag moeten wegens oorlogsmisdaden wat mij betreft,
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Een welvarend, stabiel en onafhankelijk land verwoest door de NATO agressie ondanks de meer dan een miljoen mensen die voor de leider demonteerde in Tripoli....
RIP martelaar Muammar al-Gaddafi, een anti-imperialistische leider die Afrika wou verenigen en een gevaar was voor de dollar met zijn gouden dinar.
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lol, NAVO's "meest succesvolle interventie" diende dus vooral om Franse bedrijven te helpen. En dan mislukt het ook nog...
En om de slechte reputatie van de Franse strijdkrachten weer een boost te geven :o Heel interessant om door te lezen bevestigd best wel veel geruchten. Binnenkort maakt de State Department weer een berg e-mails openbaar, ben benieuwd.
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The Libyan Army Advances West of Tripoli

Over the last several weeks, the Libyan National Army (LNA) advanced west of Tripoli, as the Western Region Operations Room reached a series of truces with western cities and towns in the outer environs of the capital city. Since the armed takeover of the Libyan capital in the summer of 2014 by the Libya Dawn coalition, the LNA, which remains loyal to the exiled House of Representatives (HoR) government, has continued to fight against Libya Dawn along the outskirts of the city and the surrounding areas. Despite an initially successful army offensive in late March to retake several towns south of Tripoli, advances in recent months have stalled without significant gains by either side. The recent shift in momentum indicates a concerted effort by the LNA and its allies to consolidate their strength in preparation for an offensive to retake the capital city.

The LNA advance is spearheaded by a series of ceasefire agreements between local groups loyal to the LNA and the leadership of cities previously loyal to Libya Dawn, strategically establishing peace deals with municipalities surrounding the capital. On 11 June, after a week of negotiations, the pro-LNA stronghold of Zintan reached a ceasefire with the city of Gharyan, south of Tripoli, which supported the Tripoli-based government (the General National Congress [GNC]) and affiliated Libya Dawn militias. Leaders from Zintan and the pro-LNA town of Rajban signed an agreement similar to the Gharyan deal on 14 June with local leaders from the western cities of Jumayl, Riqdalin, Zaltan, and Assah. Yet another reconciliation deal was reached three days later on 17 June with previously pro-Dawn cities of Sabratha, Surman, and Ajaylat. These agreements allegedly allowed pro-LNA forces to enter and secure these cities,several of which has been strongly supportive of Libya Dawn. The accords shifted the majority of the population centers west of Tripoli into tacit if not explicit support for the HoR, while moving LNA forces closer to the Libya Dawn stronghold.
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The recent advances west of Tripoli indicates a shift in the LNA’s strategic calculus in the region. Much of this is likely based on the situation in Misrata, a coastal city that provides critical military and political support to Libya Dawn. Misrata-based militias have sought ceasefires and reconciliation talks with the LNA in the west independently of the Tripoli government and the city’s Municipal Council has increasingly chafed under the GNC’s attempts to limit the city’s autonomy. Misrata also criticized the GNC for failing to adequately deal with the emergence of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) in the city of Sirte.
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Libya government 'torturing' detainees: HRW
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Libya's internationally recognised government was accused by a rights group on Wednesday of the torture and ill-treatment of prisoners it holds in the east of the country.
The "government and its allied forces are responsible for widespread arbitrary detentions and for torture and other ill treatment", a statement from Human Rights Watch alleged.

The New York-based watchdog said it had obtained access to jails at Bayda and second city Benghazi, currently in the hands of forces loyal to Libya's internationally recognised administration.

Detainees said they had been forced to confess to crimes under torture and "described other abuses, including lack of due process, lack of medical care... and poor conditions", HRW said.

The group found that the most common torture method reported involved detainees being beaten with plastic pipes on the soles of their feet.

Others were beaten with electrical cables, chains or sticks, it said.
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Er is een akkoord. Soort van.

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Strijdende partijen Libië ondertekenen VN-akkoord

De meeste strijdende partijen in Libië hebben zaterdagavond in de Marokkaanse stad Skhirat het door de Verenigde Naties (VN) voorgestelde 'vredes- en verzoeningsakkoord' ondertekend. De vertegenwoordigers van het parlement in Tripoli bleven afwezig.

'Het is werkelijk een belangrijke stap in het vredesproces', verklaarde Bernardino Léon, de VN-afgevaardigde voor Libië. Bij de ondertekening waren vertegenwoordigers van het Libische parlement in Tobroek en vertegenwoordigers van de gemeenten, de politieke partijen en het maatschappelijk middenveld aanwezig.

Belangrijkste afwezigen waren de vertegenwoordigers van het parlement in Tripoli. Het bestand, waarin onder meer melding wordt gemaakt van de vorming van een regering van nationale eenheid en van de organisatie van nieuwe verkiezingen, was dinsdag namelijk verworpen door dat parlement. Léon benadrukte dat 'de deur open blijft' voor de afwezigen.
Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 00:57:09 Signing with initials means the sealing of what has been achieved so far - lots of details to be agreed yet. Annexes to follow. #Libya reageer retweet
Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:09:39 Despite the challenges - Signing with initials will give some clarity to the international community on how to handle the #Libya-n crisis. reageer retweet
Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:12:24 Armed groups with heavy presence in #Tripoli are against the deal being signed in Morocco tonight. a huge immediate challenge. #Libya reageer retweet
Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:17:25 Encouraging/positive reconciliatory tone from #Misrata's Fathi Bashagha. #Libya reageer retweet
Eljarh twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 01:26:41 Next stage for #Libya's dialogue will involved finalizing annexes and agreeing on the Prime Minister and his two deputies & Gov. reageer retweet
LibyaAlHurraTV twitterde op zondag 12-07-2015 om 04:16:10 Canada,EU,France, Germany,Italy,Morocco,Portugal,Russia,Spain, Turkey,UK&US welcome agreement by #Libya's majority http://t.co/0QLnqd3Y82 reageer retweet
Even voor de duidelijkheid: De erkende regering in Tobruk heeft dus een akkoord gesloten met Misrata en de gemeenteraad in Tripoli. De GNC heeft niet ondertekend, en daarmee dus de meeste gewapende groepen in Tripoli.
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Zo zie je maar weer, geen enkel woord van het westen over het martelen van mensen door het nieuwe regime maar toen Kadafi er nog was continu klagen. En nu ook bij Assad weer.
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Zo zie je maar weer, geen enkel woord van het westen over het martelen van mensen door het nieuwe regime maar toen Kadafi er nog was continu klagen. En nu ook bij Assad weer.
Het land zit dan ook tjokvol terroristen en er woedt een burgeroorlog, martelingen zijn an sich niks bijzonders.
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Het land zit dan ook tjokvol terroristen en er woedt een burgeroorlog, martelingen zijn an sich niks bijzonders.
In Syrië ook, toch bekritiseren de westerse regimes de Syrische overheid.
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Zo zie je maar weer, geen enkel woord van het westen over het martelen van mensen door het nieuwe regime
Mwha jawel, een paar jaar geleden al. Dit is niet nieuw helaas.

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Security Council condemns cases of torture and mistreatment in illegal detention centres in Libya

“The Members of the Security Council condemned cases of torture and mistreatment observed in illegal detention centers in Libya. They emphasized that practices of torture and extra-judicial killing should not be tolerated. They called upon the Libyan authorities to investigate all violations of human rights and bring the perpetrators of such acts to justice. In that regard, the Members of the Security Council welcomed recent legislative initiatives undertaken by the General National Congress in Libya. They also noted the importance of the cooperation of the Libyan authorities with the International Criminal Court and the Prosecutor.”
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maar toen Kadafi er nog was continu klagen. En nu ook bij Assad weer.
Niet helemaal toen Libië(en Syrië) nog meewerkten aan het extraordinary rendition program, toen mocht het nog :+
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Western powers ask Qatar and Turkey to convince reluctant GNC to sign Libya peace deal

According to the London based Al-Hayat Newspaper, the U.S., UK and France have asked Qatar to make an effort to convince the General National Congress to accept the UN sponsored peace deal initialed in Morocco on Saturday. Sources have also said that Turkey's contribution to this agreement will be of "great importance".
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Libya’s New Peace Deal Has a Serious Flaw

First, the good news: The United Nations has finally persuaded most of Libya’s warring factions to sign a peace agreement. Now the bad news: one of the main players has opted out, posing a major obstacle to the peace process.

This absence of a major participant in Libya’s grinding civil war — the Islamist-dominated government in Tripoli — is the immediate challenge facing the deal. Known as the General National Congress (GNC), this faction is the main opponent of the internationally recognized administration now headquartered in the cities of Tobruk and Bayda in the country’s east. (The Tobruk government has agreed to the deal.)

The GNC’s refusal to countenance the deal is important because it controls all of the government institutions in Tripoli, Libya’s capital.

The GNC’s refusal to countenance the deal is important because it controls all of the government institutions in Tripoli, Libya’s capital. Though the agreement sets up a framework for a new government to run the country, the GNC’s unwillingness to sign means that a future administration won’t have access to the buildings and infrastructure belonging to the various ministries. The new government will also find itself confronting hostile militias and controversial political and religious figures such as Grand Mufti Sadiq al-Gheriani, Libya’s senior Sunni cleric, who has already begun denouncing the peace agreement as one-sided and irrelevant (noting that it will have little validity without the GNC’s participation). All this threatens to undermine the fragile peace deal.
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Special report from Libya: How Nato's toppling of Gaddafi has turned to disaster
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Tears rolled down Khadija’s cheeks as the 17-seater plane – the whirr of its propellers deafening in the cabin – began its descent into the capital of a country crippled by war. The hope she’d felt of a better future for Libya after the ousting of dictator Col Muammar Gaddafi had long soured into resentment and fear. Now she was flying back into her homeland from exile. An uncle had been killed and she needed to attend his funeral.
“It wasn’t meant to be like this,” she said. “We have lost our dignity. We fought Gaddafi so that we could speak freely. Now it’s the same as before, but with less security.”
Many of her countrymen agree with her. Since the end of the 2011 Nato-backed war that toppled Gaddafi, Libya has fragmented – with two rival governments and their allied armed gangs vying for power. Nascent democracy has been supplanted by a system of repression and fear. Militias have become the most powerful players in a country devoid of the rule of law, of a national army or a police force. Anyone opposing them, be they politician or civilian, is silenced – often at gunpoint.
A policeman from the Nawasi brigade questions a motorist in Tripoli's Martyr's Square (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
In the new Libya, just as in the old, speaking out against those wielding power is enough see you threatened, or killed. There was, many admit, a “golden age” in the months immediately after the end of Gaddafi’s 40-year-rule. But it was not long before factionalism began to spin out of control. Now that brief, optimistic interregnum is spoken of nostalgically, as thought it were a distant era.
In fact it was only three years ago, in 2012, that Libyans rushed to the polls to vote for their first democratically elected government. Newspapers proliferated. Misrata, Libya’s merchant second city, had 23. In the conference halls of five-star hotels, wise men gathered to debate the finer details of the country’s new constitution. But when the business of governing began in earnest, things began to go wrong.
It had taken a war of eight months to remove a tyrant, but it soon became clear that the mentality of the people subjugated to his rule would need much longer to change. With no established social base for democracy, Libya’s new rulers resorted to the politics of old. Corruption became worse even than during Gaddafi’s regime, as every politician secured his seat with nepotism and patronage. “Every time a new prime minister arrived, he sacked the staff across departments and institutions and brought in his own people,” said Mohsen Derregia, the former head of the Libyan Investment Authority, the body managing the country’s $65 billion sovereign wealth fund. “In four years LIA had six chairmen. Barely had you learnt to do the job than you were moved on.”
Libya’s oil-rich economy began to founder. Under a succession of weak governments, and with few other job opportunities, fighting groups formed to oust Gaddafi refused to disband. Instead, each accused the other of secretly being Gaddafi loyalists, and gunfights broke out once again as they battled for control of key public facilities.
In Tripoli the fighting between militias from Misrata and the mountain town of Zintan, saw hundreds of people killed. Their fight for Tripoli’s international airport ended with the terminal burned to the ground. Rows of planes, some gutted by fire, others riddled with bullet holes and with bits of their wings broken off, stand abandoned on the closed runway, in silent testimony to the chaos.
The wreckage of what was once the departure lounge at Tripoli International Airport, Libya
With everyone keen to stake their claim to wealth and power in the new Libya, and to prove their involvement in the revolution that toppled the old, the number of militiamen burgeoned from the estimated 40,000 fighters during the 2011 war, to 160,000. In their midst, Islamic extremists began to thrive. Ansar Sharia, the hardline jihadi group accused of killing US ambassador Chris Stevens, grew in strength. Facebook, once a platform for opponents of Gaddafi to arrange protests, became a tool of repression.
“Last year I received death threats after I wrote a public post on Facebook, criticising the fighting between militias,” said one young resident of Misrata, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals. “I hate what is happening here. Why are they doing this? How can they raise a weapon against men who were their brothers in the revolution?
The eastern city of Benghazi, the “capital of the revolution”, where the first anti-Gaddafi protests took place in 2011, became a murky, dangerous place. Some estimates suggest 200 people have been assassinated. The dead include liberals and campaigners, as well as victims of federalists who want to separate the east from the west.
Last August, Libya Dawn, a coalition of militias including Islamists, seized control of the capital, Tripoli, sending those in parliament fleeing to Tobruk. There the parliamentarians allied themselves with Khalifa Haftar, a former general in Gaddafi’s army who once worked for the CIA. Gathering up his own broad coalition, which includes a large number of soldiers from the old regime, Haftar has declared war on Libya Dawn – which he dismissed as a band of terrorists. As the anarchy in Libya resolves into these two warring factions, freedom of speech is being pushed ever further underground.
Young men play table football in Martyr Square (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
By day, a veneer of normality lacquers the capital. Shops, including international brand names such as Mango, and Marks and Spencer are open. Traffic is gridlocked. Cosmopolitan Libyan girls gossip over cappuccinos in one of the city’s many Costa Coffee shops. Men in plain clothes drive police cars, and soldiers in pick-up trucks wearing mismatched uniforms enforce the law. “We are here for security,” said Captain Murad, 40, the commander of the Nawasi brigade, one of the biggest militias under Libya Dawn in Tripoli. “Our men police the streets. We stop crime.”
Policemen belonging to the Nawasi brigade conduct traffic searches in Tripoli's Martyr's Square (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
On one recent Thursday night – the start of the weekend in Libya – I joined the Nawasi brigade on patrol. Wearing green masks to hide their faces, the militiamen set up flying checkpoints. They pulled over cars without licence plates to check if they were stolen. They searched the seats and boots for drugs.
All very unobjectionable. But residents repeatedly told me that, as well as stopping petty crime, militias use their power to destroy opponents. Last month in Tripoli, the body of Intissar Hassairi, a female political activist, was found in the boot of her car. Government prosecutors in Tripoli told me she had been killed in a “simple family dispute”. This may yet be the case. But in the days after her murder, the policeman who took fingerprints at the scene also disappeared. Ms Hassairi’s boyfriend fled the country. A friend told me her family was too afraid to talk.
Women look in the window of a dress shop in Tripoli (Sam Tarling/The Telegraph)
A pervasive sense of fear is barely concealed below the surface in Libya today.
“Are you sure no one followed you?” asked Murad, a civil rights activist, looking nervously around the café in Tripoli. Lighting a cigarette, the young man sighed. “Freedom of speech is the big fear for Libyan Dawn. Mind you, if I was on the other side [in east Libya] I’d be scared of the militias there, too.” Murad, who spoke using a pseudonym, explained how he had been part of a pro-democracy group that since 2012 had been encouraging fighting factions to settle debate through the ballot box.
After the outbreak of hostilities between Haftar and Libya Dawn, however, his work became impossible. “If you criticised Dawn they accused you of being with Haftar,” he said. And vice versa.
Such chaos, the ever-present threats, have driven thousands into exile. Looking nervously through the window of the plane bringing her home for her uncle’s funeral, Khadija is one of them. She fled Libya in 2013. Many of Murad’s colleagues have gone too, forced out by the factionalism and gangsterism that has brought their country to the brink of civil war.
“These people, they say they are doing this to keep us safe and to protect the revolution against Gaddafi supporters,” said Murad. “But it’s been four years. Gaddafi is over. This is about everyone getting as much money as they can. The options now are military rule, like before – or chaos. I am at the point where I just want to have a stable country. Democracy just feels too far beyond our reach.”
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Zoon van Gaddafi krijgt doodstraf - VN: diep geschokt

Saif al-Islam heeft de doodstraf gekregen voor zijn rol bij het neerslaan van de opstand die in 2011 leidde tot het instorten van het Gadaffi-regime.

Een Libische rechtbank heeft vanochtend de zoon van voormalig dictator Moammar Gaddafi, Saif al-Islam, ter dood veroordeeld. Ook een voormalige chef van de veiligheidsdienst en een oud-premier hebben de doodstraf gekregen.
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  woensdag 12 augustus 2015 @ 02:17:02 #249
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Libyan prime minister Thinni says he will resign: TV

TRIPOLI (Reuters) - Libya's internationally recognized Prime Minister Abdullah al-Thinni said in a television interview that he would resign, after the station confronted him with questions from angry citizens criticizing his cabinet as ineffective.

"I officially resign and I will submit my resignation to the House of Representatives on Sunday," he told "Libya channel", a private TV station in an interview broadcast late on Tuesday.

Thinni has been based in a remote eastern city since his government fled Tripoli a year ago after the capital was seized by an armed group that set up a rival administration, part of chaos gripping the oil producing nation.

His cabinet, working out of hotels, had struggled to make an impact in the remote eastern city of Bayda, while citizens complained about chaos, shortages of fuel and hospital drugs as well as a worsening security situation.

Ministries and key state buildings in Tripoli are under control of the rival administration, which has not been recognized by world powers.

During the TV interview, Thinni became angry when the host presented him with questions he said he had collected from viewers who criticized Thinni for a lack of security and aid for people displaced by Libya's chaos.

When the presenter asked Thinni what he would do if there were protests, he said: "People do not need to protest against me because I officially resign from my position."
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
  woensdag 16 september 2015 @ 09:28:16 #250
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Vluchtelingen in Libië mishandeld en uitgehongerd door milities

Met honderden tegelijk worden ze vastgehouden in een fabriekshal. Eten en drinken krijgen ze alleen als ze geluk hebben. In Libië worden vluchtelingen onder verschrikkelijke omstandigheden vastgehouden door milities, blijkt uit beelden van de website Vice.

Het internationale online magazine met onderzoeksjournalistiek heeft een documentaire online gezet over een kamp buiten de Libische hoofdstad Tripoli. Er waren niet eerder beelden uit de kampen zelf.

Er is weinig voedsel en veel mensen in het kamp zijn ziek en uitgedroogd. Militieleden houden de vluchtelingen in bedwang met zwepen en waarschuwingsschoten.

De vluchtelingen komen uit Afrikaanse landen als Somalië en Eritrea. Ze hebben vaak een barre tocht door de woestijn achter de rug om Libië te bereiken. Van daaruit hopen ze door te kunnen reizen naar Italië. Maar in Libië worden ze tegengehouden door de milities die grote delen van het land controleren.

De milities zeggen dat ze in opdracht van de Libische regering de vluchtelingen van straat halen. Dat zou goed zijn voor de orde in het land.

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Maar om de veiligheid van de migranten geven ze weinig, zeggen de vrouwen die zijn gescheiden van hun mannen. "Als ze de camera zien dan geven ze voedsel en water en doen ze aardig", zegt een van de vrouwen. "Maar als jullie weg zijn beginnen ze ons te mishandelen. Soms geven ze ons voedsel, soms niet. De jongens krijgen helemaal geen eten."

De beelden van Vice zijn gedraaid in juni. Er is volgens de makers weinig reden om aan te nemen dat de situatie sindsdien is verbeterd.
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