Wikileaks documenten #17: Assange op naar Zweden?

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 18:38 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:
Blijkt wel weer uit dat Chavez' waarschuwende woorden over US/NL helemaal niet zo raar zijn.

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The Dutch have also expressed an interest to participate in DHS's "Centers of Excellence." While the EU was arguing with us and itself over releasing personal records to airlines, the Dutch allowed U.S. immigration teams (IAP) to operate at Schipol airport.

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 18:54 schreef longinus het volgende:
Omg, Nederland likt zich in bij amerika omdat ze denken dan in een goede positie te komen en amerika wil nederland omdat het ze goed uitkomt om te gebruiken.

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 18:21 schreef LWD-Godius het volgende:
Was deze al bekend?: US embassy cables: Why Holland is so important to US

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9. (S) The Dutch have one of the largest, most geographically diverse deployments of military forces in the world, with more troops deployed as a percentage of their total forces than any other ally.

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 18:21 schreef LWD-Godius het volgende:
Was deze al bekend?: US embassy cables: Why Holland is so important to US

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The leaders of the Netherlands, UK, Norway, Denmark, and Sweden already meet quietly several times a year to coordinate positions prior to EU Council and other high-level EU meetings.

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- Africa: Senior Dutch military officials say they are considering expanding their military presence in Africa to include Burundi, Rwanda, Eastern Congo, Botswana, Zambia, and Ivory Coast, adding new "eyes and ears" on the ground. The Dutch have requested embedding a cell at EUCOM (similar to that already operating in CENTCOM) to coordinate their actions with the U.S. and other allies. [...] The Dutch are the fourth largest provider of assistance to Africa world-wide. In 2005 they established a 110 million Euro Stability Fund for security sector reform in the African Great Lakes Region and Sudan (as well as Afghanistan and Iraq.)

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Narcotics and trafficking in persons remain areas of difficulty. Despite fundamental differences regarding "soft drugs" and legalized prostitution, the Balkenende government has worked to prevent these differences from defining our relationship. There are also signs that Dutch attitudes may be shifting. [...] On the other hand, Dutch Health Minister Hoogevorst recently signed a precedent-setting MOU with the U.S. to share information on the health risks of new strains of marijuana with higher concentrations of THC, which may convince the Dutch to rethink their approach to "soft drugs" in general. [...]We should support such initiatives actively.

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THE ISLAMIC FACTOR

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19. (S) A new, but potentially serious factor in Dutch domestic politics is its large, poorly integrated Muslim population, currently numbering just under 1 million, or 5.8 percent of the population. USG-sponsored polls show that 83 percent of Dutch Muslims identify much more strongly with their religion than with their host country, while 51 percent have little or no faith in the Dutch government as an institution. While the problems of Dutch integration captured international headlines following the van Gogh murder, the Dutch believe they have an early start on the rest of Europe in seeking creative ways to address these concerns. Their strong interest in sharing and soliciting ideas has opened up opportunities for Embassy and USG outreach and consultations throughout Dutch society, providing insights into a growing problem throughout Europe. We expect our experiences here will provide good indications of broader European trends as well as opportunities to influence their direction.

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 21:22 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
Het is maar net wat je uit de betreffende cables wil lezen:

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Ik wist niet dat we op zoveel plekken militair gezien in Afrika zitten?

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Een actie van Hoogevorst waar ik nooit eerder iets over heb gelezen...het uitwisselen van info over wiet met een hogere concentratie THC?

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En wij maar volhouden dat het zo goed met de intergratie van de allochtonen gaat....
83% vind de Islam dus kennelijk een betere identiteit geven de Nederlandse nationaliteit en 51% gelooft niet in de overheid...beroerd

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Since his arrest in May, Manning has been a model detainee, without any episodes of violence or disciplinary problems. He nonetheless was declared from the start to be a "Maximum Custody Detainee," the highest and most repressive level of military detention, which then became the basis for the series of inhumane measures imposed on him.

From the beginning of his detention, Manning has been held in intensive solitary confinement. For 23 out of 24 hours every day -- for seven straight months and counting -- he sits completely alone in his cell. Even inside his cell, his activities are heavily restricted; he's barred even from exercising and is under constant surveillance to enforce those restrictions. For reasons that appear completely punitive, he's being denied many of the most basic attributes of civilized imprisonment, including even a pillow or sheets for his bed (he is not and never has been on suicide watch). For the one hour per day when he is freed from this isolation, he is barred from accessing any news or current events programs. Lt. Villiard protested that the conditions are not "like jail movies where someone gets thrown into the hole," but confirmed that he is in solitary confinement, entirely alone in his cell except for the one hour per day he is taken out.

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 21:22 schreef YuckFou het volgende:
Een actie van Hoogevorst waar ik nooit eerder iets over heb gelezen...het uitwisselen van info over wiet met een hogere concentratie THC?

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Op donderdag 16 december 2010 08:10 schreef Re het volgende:
dat THC verhaal vind ik idd erg interessant... samen met de toch wel nieuwere weg wat betreft softdrugsbeleid denk ik dat de VS zomaar een vinger in de pap heeft hier

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Op woensdag 15 december 2010 18:34 schreef LWD-Godius het volgende:
Nog een nieuwe:

US embassy cables: Barack Obama's briefing on Dutch politics


Met de gouden passage:

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the Dutch drove much of the Phase III planning for ISAF and deployed Dutch troops in combat operations for the first time in more than 30 years.

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Op donderdag 16 december 2010 10:30 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/38987

feitelijk onjuist btw

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SUBJECT: AARGH! SWEDISH PIRATES SET SAIL FOR BRUSSELS

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Op donderdag 16 december 2010 10:34 schreef tjoptjop het volgende:

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Heeft dat misschien te maken dat de Balkan onder de pet van VN was? _{Of is dat nu ook het geval?}

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Op donderdag 16 december 2010 10:45 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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beiden (deliberate force in '95 en Allied Force in '99) werden uitgevoerd onder de NAVO vlag