Geruchten aftreden vice-president Cheney

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 00:38 schreef Pracissor het volgende:
Nice, een zwarte vrouw als vice-president.

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 01:01 schreef Vampier het volgende:
Rice is een Havik...

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Op dinsdag 18 oktober 2005 23:58 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Cheney's positie zou door betrokkenheid van zijn afdeling (via zijn voornaamste adviseur Libby) bij de Plame Case (het lek betreffende de identiteit van CIA medewerkster Valerie Plame) onhoudbaar kunnen worden.

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 02:09 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Ik zie Cheney echt niet aftreden

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 02:09 schreef SeLang het volgende:
Ik zie Cheney echt niet aftreden

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 00:38 schreef Pracissor het volgende:
Nice, een zwarte vrouw als vice-president.

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Zaak CIA-agente pijnlijk voor Witte Huis


Door onze (NRC) correspondent Tom-Jan Meeus

Kans dat Bush en Cheney hun voornaamste adviseurs moeten ontslaan

Nieuwe onthullingen in de affaire rond de CIA-agente die uit wraak in gevaar werd gebracht, brengen het Witte Huis en The New York Times in verlegenheid.

WASHINGTON, 17 OKT. De spanning loopt op. Karl Rove, de politiek adviseur van de Amerikaanse president George W. Bush, zegde afgelopen weekeinde op een laat moment een toespraak af op een bijeenkomst met politieke vrienden in Virginia. Niks voor hem.

Rove ligt onder vuur omdat hij met anderen vanuit het Witte Huis een wraakactie ondernam tegen een ambtenaar die de grondslag voor de oorlog in Irak betwistte.

Vrijdag nog werd hij ruim drie uur verhoord door de aanklager in de affaire. Over het verhoor is vrijwel niets bekend geworden, maar er wordt intens gespeculeerd over een naderend vertrek van Bush’ belangrijkste adviseur. Het onderzoek moet uiterlijk volgende week zijn afgerond.

Gisteren verhoogde de krant The New York Times de spanning door te onthullen dat Rove’s opereren onderdeel uitmaakte van een bredere strategie van het Witte Huis. De krant beschreef dat ook een andere prominente Witte Huis-medewerker betrokken was bij het zwart maken van de ongehoorzame ambtenaar inzake ‘Irak’. Het gaat om Lewis ‘Scooter’ Libby, topadviseur van vice-president Dick Cheney.

Libby’s naam zong al rond, maar een bevestiging ontbrak tot nu toe.

The New York Times is in dit geval een doorslaggevende bron. De verslaggever met wie Libby sprak, Judith Miller, zat enkele maanden in hechtenis omdat ze weigerde de identiteit van haar gesprekspartner prijs te geven. Nadat ze vorige week alsnog een getuigenis aflegde, beschreef ze gisteren de drie gesprekken die ze in 2003 met de topadviseur van Cheney voerde. De krant publiceerde daarnaast een uitvoerige reconstructie.

De zaak draait om ambassadeur Joseph Wilson en zijn vrouw, CIAundercover agente Valerie Plame.

Wilson deed in 2002 voor de CIA onderzoek of Saddam Hussein in Niger had geprobeerd onderdelen voor nucleaire wapens te kopen.

Zijn conclusie was nee. Toch noemde president Bush in 2003 aan de vooravond van de oorlog dit als een reden voor de inval in Irak.

Toen na de oorlog geen massavernietigingswapens werden gevonden, beschreef Wilson in een opiniestuk in dezelfde New York Times dat de regering-Bush het gevaar van Irak bewust had overdreven.

Hierna werd vanuit het Witte Huis, aldus Wilson, de identiteit en functie van zijn echtgenote onthuld, die daardoor vreesde voor haar leven. De CIA deed aangifte, een speciale aanklager begon een onderzoek.

Uit de gisteren gepubliceerde stukken blijkt hoezeer het Witte Huis erop gebrand was Wilson te grazen te nemen. De motivatie was puur politiek. Duidelijk moest worden, vond Libby, dat Bush onjuiste verklaringen over het Iraakse regime had afgelegd omdat de CIA de regering verkeerd inlichtte.

Van de missie van ,,die heimelijke gozer’’, Joseph Wilson, naar Niger had Cheney nooit geweten. En al in het eerste gesprek gaf Libby de hint dat er sprake was van nepotisme door het werk van Wilsons vrouw bij de CIA te noemen – waarover hij Miller later meer details gaf.

De reconstructie van de krant komt vrijwel overeen met wat Karl Rove omstreeks dezelfde tijd aan het weekblad Time vertelde en waarover het weekblad deze zomer al publiceerde. Ook Rove kleineerde Wilson door te suggereren dat hij de trip naar Niger alleen had gemaakt omdat zijn vrouw bij de CIA werkte. De president en de leiding van de CIA hadden nooit van de trip geweten, aldus Rove volgens Time.

Het strafrechtelijk onderzoek draait erom of Rove en Libby illegaal handelden door de naam van de geheim agente bekend te maken.

Er lijkt alleen bewijs dat de twee haar werkgever en echtgenoot noemden, niet haar naam. Er is dus een kans dat deze zaak, ondanks alle opwinding, eindigt zonder vervolging.

Wat hier tegen pleit, is dat Rove voor zijn vierde verhoor, vrijdag, te horen kreeg dat de aanklager vervolging niet uitsluit, terwijl vaststaat dat de topadviseur van Bush in zijn eerdere verklaringen is ‘vergeten’ te vertellen van het gesprek met de Time-verslaggever. Iets soortgelijks is er met Libby. Hij liet zijn eerste gesprek met Miller – dat lange tijd niet bekend was bij de aanklager – aanvankelijk onvermeld.

In beide gevallen is een vervolging voor meineed kansrijk, aldus betrokken advocaten bij de zaak. Dan moeten de president én de vice-president vermoedelijk hun voornaamste adviseurs ontslaan.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 11:45 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Okay, prettig weekend, deze week hoeven we niets meer te verwachten via de officiele kanalen, daar lijkt het op, het is op dit moment niet eens zeker of er een laatste rapport komt betreffende de zaak, omdat het niet duidelijk is of Fitzgerald, de officier van justitie in deze, hiertoe geauthoriseerd is.

Het congres zou kunnen pushen wat dit rapport betreft, maar die houden hun mond, ook de democraten, vreemd genoeg.

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 15:46 schreef Dagonet het volgende:
Willen ze Cheney afzetten zullen ze hem eerst moeten vinden.

Maar ik denk dat het allemaal wel redelijk losloopt eigenlijk. Mocht Cheney's positie echt onhoudbaar worden dan is dat een zware klap voor de Republikeinen en die zullen er dus ook alles aan doen om hem in het zadel te houden.

Als hij al stopt dan is het vanwege gezondsheidsredenen en een vervanger? Volgens mij zou het voor Rice eerder slechter zijn dan beter om vice-president te worden mocht ze president willen worden.

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En heeft die meteen een sterkere positie ten opzichte van andere kanshebbers als McCain en Guilliani (ex-burgemeester van NY)

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Op vrijdag 21 oktober 2005 09:00 schreef klez het volgende:

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Dat zou te mooi zijn om waar te zijn...

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Op donderdag 20 oktober 2005 16:12 schreef Lonewolf2003 het volgende:

Normaal is de vice-president altijd de grootste kanshebber om de nominatie te krijgen.

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Op vrijdag 21 oktober 2005 20:42 schreef motionknight het volgende:
Ik durf mn linker teelbal erop te wedden dat de republikeinen weer gaan winnen en zullen blijven winnen.

Gewoon net als de vorige keer grote groepen zwarten "'vergeten" hun stembiljet te sturen of kwijt te raken, hun gewoon bij het stemhokje te weigeren of hun votes gewoon "kwijtteraken"
De stemmachines die gemaakt en geleverd worden(incl zelfgemaakte software) door Diebold Election Systems een groot sponsor van de republkeinse partij zullen nog meer worden gebruikt bij de volgende verkiezingen, zonder van te voren getest te worden want er word immers toch niet gefraudeerd in Amerika?

Mensen als jullie een leuk zakcentje willen verdienen moet je als het kan wedden op de uitslag van de amerikaanse verkiezingen van 2008, je zult goede odds hebben aangezien bij de polls net voor de verkiezingen de democratische president op 60 -40 % voor staat, dus 3 keer de inleg zal er wel inzitten. Dan bij het moment supreme is het mirakel daar, tegen alle verwachtingen en exit polls in winnen de republikeinen

Maar ff serieus nu, ik wed hierbij al mijn linker teelbal dat bij de amerikaanse verkiezingen 2008 weer naar een republkein gaat, mocht dit niet het geval zijn zal ik mijn trouwe en geliefde lichaamsdeel aangetekend en extra verzekerd sturen naar een goede spermabank in nederland.

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Bush whacked Rove on CIA leak

WASHINGTON - An angry President Bush rebuked chief political guru Karl Rove two years ago for his role in the Valerie Plame affair, sources told the Daily News.

http://nydailynews.com/front/story/357107p-304312c.html

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Indictment Is Easy Way Out For Bush Officials

Should Bush Administration Officials be indicted and forced to resign over the Plame case in the coming weeks, the left will undoubtedly declare a major victory for justice and truth. We say that should this happen the truth will consequently be buried and injustice will once again prevail.

To see the likes of Rove and Cheney skulking off back into the undergrowth, undoubtedly with massive paychecks will be no victory for the truth movement at all. These men should be held up to account for multiple illegal corporate wranglings, for high treason for the Coup de Tat on 9/11 and for crimes against humanity due to their involvement in the illegal and unjust war in Iraq.

Allowing them to get away with simple perjury over the Plame leak case will allow them to return back to what they know best, how to influence Government policy and advance the elite agenda whilst NOT in power. And Whilst many will wait around the front so to speak, cheering and celebrating this "victory", Rove et al will simply sneak out of the back door.

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 00:43 schreef Tarak het volgende:

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Waarom zou dat "nice" zijn? Dat heb ik nooit begrepen, waarom is het beter als er een vrouw / neger / homo / latino / gehandicapte of liefst combinatie van één deze factoren op een bepaalde positie zit.

Liever een "WASP male" die gekozen is omdat mensen bewust op hem hun stemmen hebben uitgebracht, dan iemand die gekozen is vanwege solidariteitsstemmen uit zieligheidsoverwegingen omdat hij/zij uit een minderheidsgroepering afkomstig is.

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Op zaterdag 22 oktober 2005 11:45 schreef Pracissor het volgende:

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Het is de paradox van een vrouw die zwart is, maar wel hard beleid voert. Lijkt me heerlijk om links een zwarte vrouw te zien bashen.

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http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/101605Z.shtml

When Mr. Rove was asked on camera by ABC News in September 2003 if he had any knowledge of the Valerie Wilson leak and said no, it was only hours before the Justice Department would open its first leak investigation. When Scott McClellan later declared that he had been personally assured by Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby that they were "not involved" with the leak, the case was still in the safe hands of the attorney general then, John Ashcroft, himself a three-time Rove client in past political campaigns. Though Mr. Rove may be known as "Bush's brain," he wasn't smart enough to anticipate that Justice Department career employees would eventually pressure Mr. Ashcroft to recuse himself because of this conflict of interest, clearing the way for an outside prosecutor as independent as Mr. Fitzgerald.

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The Daily News reports that George W. Bush has known about Rove´s role in Plamegate for two years. During the White House briefing Scott McClellan refused to confirm or deny the story.

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So will it really be a victory to see Cheney walk off into the sunset without justice being done?

Whilst we await to see what transpires we have to remember that men like Cheney and Rove are the greedy little power-hungry middlemen for the higher echelons. They are puppets that are simply used to get a job done by the Globalist elite who are really in control. These people have been compromised from the very day they took office and their masters know that, it's part of how they are controlled and rewarded. Therefore will it really matter in the long run if they are removed from the operation? They have served their purpose and will simply be replaced. You can remove as many heads of the Hydra as you want, and whilst you celebrate your achievement it will simply regenerate twofold.

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Op woensdag 19 oktober 2005 10:29 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Ik ook niet, uiteraard weet hij alles af van deze zaak, die groter is dan Watergate of Iran-Contra, maar ik zie 'm nog niet zo snel aftreden.

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Op maandag 24 oktober 2005 23:36 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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En hier gaat het slechts om het loslippig gedrag van een aantal diecte staf medewerkers (als onderdeel van een groter plan). Met of zonder die CIA agente was die oorlog in Irak er toch gekomen.

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Op dinsdag 25 oktober 2005 23:51 schreef Monidique het volgende:
Het is een onderdeel, zoals je inderdaad zegt, van dat grotere plan: het fabriceren van een aanvalsoorlog tegen Irak. Dat is inderdaad erger dat WaterGate of Iran-Contra. Daarnaast heeft het contraproductief gewerkt in de strijd tegen terreur en massavernietigingswapens en heeft men mensenlevens geriskeerd. Deze zaak ís erger.

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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 00:25 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Ach... het inzetten van 'Agent Orange' ten tijde van Vietnam (wat in feite puur dioxine was) was ook erg gevaarlijk voor die mensen die het gebruikten/toepasten. Over bewust mensen in gevaar brengen gesproken. En wie hoor je daar nog over ?!?..... het is inmiddels is dat een voetnoot geworden van de oorlog tegen N-Vietnam.

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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 00:35 schreef Cappy het volgende:
hear hear of gewoon over de atoom proeven een decennia ervoor met eigen troepen in de loopgraven om te kijken wat er zou gebeuren.

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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 00:50 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Juist dat was beerput no : 913
Nucleaire proeven op wilsombekwamen (gehandicapten - jaren '50) is ook zo'n leuk voorbeeld.

De vraag is uiteindelijk van wat heeft het gekost en ten bate van wat ?.... en de rekening in Irak loopt nog.

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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 00:55 schreef Cappy het volgende:
Als ik zo droog mag zijn : geen overwinning in korea en geen overwinning in Vietnam omdat men doorhad wat de uitslag zou kunnen zijn. Of wat wat meer zouden kunnen begrijpen de politieke "Fallout"

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Op woensdag 26 oktober 2005 01:05 schreef Drugshond het volgende:

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Wel een overwinning tegen het communisme, omdat de wapenwedloop financieel (USSR, China) niet te volgen was. En ZO-Azie is niet onder de voet gelopen werd door het klassieke communistische gedachtengoed (domino effect, Ike Eisenhower). Heel bot gezegd, hebben ze tijd gekocht, zonder een klinkende overwinning.

Of we die gewonnen tijd (anno - 2005) goed hebben besteed is een open vraag.Omdat China weer lonkt... maar dan vanuit een andere economische strategie gezien.

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he allegation that Zarqawi had visited Baghdad in May 2002 with Saddam's sanction-purportedly for medical treatment-was once a centerpiece of the administration's arguments about Iraq. Secretary of State Colin Powell cited Zarqawi's alleged visit in his speech to the United Nations Security Council. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld referred obliquely to Zarqawi's purported trip as an example of "bulletproof" evidence that the administration had assembled linking Saddam's regime with Al Qaeda.

But like the uranium yellowcake claims-since determined to be fraudulent-that are at the heart of the CIA leak case, the administration's original allegations about Zarqawi's trip also seem to be melting away. An updated CIA re-examination of the issue recently concluded that Saddam's regime may not have given Zarqawi "safe haven" after all.

The CIA declined to comment on the draft report. But officials tell NEWSWEEK that Zarqawi probably did travel to the Iraqi capital in the spring of 2002 for medical treatment. And, of course, there is no question that he is in Iraq now-orchestrating many of the deadly suicide bombings and attacks on American soldiers.

But before the American-led invasion, Saddam's government may never have known he was there. The reason: he used an alias and was there under what one U.S. intelligence official calls a "false cover." No evidence has been found showing senior Iraqi officials were even aware of his presence, according to two counterterrorism analysts familiar with the classified CIA study who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter.

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Op vrijdag 28 oktober 2005 19:22 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Bovendien zegt de scroll op CNN dat Cheney Libby vertelde over Plame's haar identiteit, en Cheney zit nog altijd op z'n stoel.

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The lawyer for Vice President Dick Cheney's former top aide has begun to outline a possible criminal defense that is a tradition in Washington scandals: A busy official immersed in important duties cannot reasonably be expected to remember details of long-ago conversations.

Friday's indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby involves allegations that as Cheney's chief of staff he lied to FBI agents and a federal grand jury.

Libby, who resigned immediately, was operating amid "the hectic rush of issues and events at a busy time for our government," according to a statement released by his attorney, Joseph Tate.

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Previous defenses varied in success
The lack-of-memory defense has worked with varying degrees of success in controversies from Iran-Contra to Whitewater.

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What I Didn't Find in Africa

By JOSEPH C. WILSON 4th
07/06/03: (New York Times) WASHINGTON. Did the Bush administration manipulate intelligence about Saddam Hussein's weapons programs to justify an invasion of Iraq?

Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.

For 23 years, from 1976 to 1998, I was a career foreign service officer and ambassador. In 1990, as chargé d'affaires in Baghdad, I was the last American diplomat to meet with Saddam Hussein. (I was also a forceful advocate for his removal from Kuwait.) After Iraq, I was President George H. W. Bush's ambassador to Gabon and São Tomé and Príncipe; under President Bill Clinton, I helped direct Africa policy for the National Security Council.

It was my experience in Africa that led me to play a small role in the effort to verify information about Africa's suspected link to Iraq's nonconventional weapons programs. Those news stories about that unnamed former envoy who went to Niger? That's me.

In February 2002, I was informed by officials at the Central Intelligence Agency that Vice President Dick Cheney's office had questions about a particular intelligence report. While I never saw the report, I was told that it referred to a memorandum of agreement that documented the sale of uranium yellowcake — a form of lightly processed ore — by Niger to Iraq in the late 1990's. The agency officials asked if I would travel to Niger to check out the story so they could provide a response to the vice president's office.

After consulting with the State Department's African Affairs Bureau (and through it with Barbro Owens-Kirkpatrick, the United States ambassador to Niger), I agreed to make the trip. The mission I undertook was discreet but by no means secret. While the C.I.A. paid my expenses (my time was offered pro bono), I made it abundantly clear to everyone I met that I was acting on behalf of the United States government.

In late February 2002, I arrived in Niger's capital, Niamey, where I had been a diplomat in the mid-70's and visited as a National Security Council official in the late 90's. The city was much as I remembered it. Seasonal winds had clogged the air with dust and sand. Through the haze, I could see camel caravans crossing the Niger River (over the John F. Kennedy bridge), the setting sun behind them. Most people had wrapped scarves around their faces to protect against the grit, leaving only their eyes visible.

The next morning, I met with Ambassador Owens-Kirkpatrick at the embassy. For reasons that are understandable, the embassy staff has always kept a close eye on Niger's uranium business. I was not surprised, then, when the ambassador told me that she knew about the allegations of uranium sales to Iraq — and that she felt she had already debunked them in her reports to Washington. Nevertheless, she and I agreed that my time would be best spent interviewing people who had been in government when the deal supposedly took place, which was before her arrival.

I spent the next eight days drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current government officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. It did not take long to conclude that it was highly doubtful that any such transaction had ever taken place.

Given the structure of the consortiums that operated the mines, it would be exceedingly difficult for Niger to transfer uranium to Iraq. Niger's uranium business consists of two mines, Somair and Cominak, which are run by French, Spanish, Japanese, German and Nigerian interests. If the government wanted to remove uranium from a mine, it would have to notify the consortium, which in turn is strictly monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency. Moreover, because the two mines are closely regulated, quasi-governmental entities, selling uranium would require the approval of the minister of mines, the prime minister and probably the president. In short, there's simply too much oversight over too small an industry for a sale to have transpired.

(As for the actual memorandum, I never saw it. But news accounts have pointed out that the documents had glaring errors — they were signed, for example, by officials who were no longer in government — and were probably forged. And then there's the fact that Niger formally denied the charges.)

Before I left Niger, I briefed the ambassador on my findings, which were consistent with her own. I also shared my conclusions with members of her staff. In early March, I arrived in Washington and promptly provided a detailed briefing to the C.I.A. I later shared my conclusions with the State Department African Affairs Bureau. There was nothing secret or earth-shattering in my report, just as there was nothing secret about my trip.

Though I did not file a written report, there should be at least four documents in United States government archives confirming my mission. The documents should include the ambassador's report of my debriefing in Niamey, a separate report written by the embassy staff, a C.I.A. report summing up my trip, and a specific answer from the agency to the office of the vice president (this may have been delivered orally). While I have not seen any of these reports, I have spent enough time in government to know that this is standard operating procedure.

I thought the Niger matter was settled and went back to my life. (I did take part in the Iraq debate, arguing that a strict containment regime backed by the threat of force was preferable to an invasion.) In September 2002, however, Niger re-emerged. The British government published a "white paper" asserting that Saddam Hussein and his unconventional arms posed an immediate danger. As evidence, the report cited Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium from an African country.

Then, in January, President Bush, citing the British dossier, repeated the charges about Iraqi efforts to buy uranium from Africa.

The next day, I reminded a friend at the State Department of my trip and suggested that if the president had been referring to Niger, then his conclusion was not borne out by the facts as I understood them. He replied that perhaps the president was speaking about one of the other three African countries that produce uranium: Gabon, South Africa or Namibia. At the time, I accepted the explanation. I didn't know that in December, a month before the president's address, the State Department had published a fact sheet that mentioned the Niger case.

Those are the facts surrounding my efforts. The vice president's office asked a serious question. I was asked to help formulate the answer. I did so, and I have every confidence that the answer I provided was circulated to the appropriate officials within our government.

The question now is how that answer was or was not used by our political leadership. If my information was deemed inaccurate, I understand (though I would be very interested to know why). If, however, the information was ignored because it did not fit certain preconceptions about Iraq, then a legitimate argument can be made that we went to war under false pretenses. (It's worth remembering that in his March "Meet the Press" appearance, Mr. Cheney said that Saddam Hussein was "trying once again to produce nuclear weapons.") At a minimum, Congress, which authorized the use of military force at the president's behest, should want to know if the assertions about Iraq were warranted.

I was convinced before the war that the threat of weapons of mass destruction in the hands of Saddam Hussein required a vigorous and sustained international response to disarm him. Iraq possessed and had used chemical weapons; it had an active biological weapons program and quite possibly a nuclear research program — all of which were in violation of United Nations resolutions. Having encountered Mr. Hussein and his thugs in the run-up to the Persian Gulf war of 1991, I was only too aware of the dangers he posed.

But were these dangers the same ones the administration told us about? We have to find out. America's foreign policy depends on the sanctity of its information. For this reason, questioning the selective use of intelligence to justify the war in Iraq is neither idle sniping nor "revisionist history," as Mr. Bush has suggested. The act of war is the last option of a democracy, taken when there is a grave threat to our national security. More than 200 American soldiers have lost their lives in Iraq already. We have a duty to ensure that their sacrifice came for the right reasons.


Joseph C. Wilson 4th, United States ambassador to Gabon from 1992 to 1995, is an international business consultant

(C) Copyright New York Times

Better watch out if you mess with me

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:16 schreef Braamhaar het volgende:
Iemand in voor 'n Nederlandse samenvatting?

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:21 schreef sooty het volgende:

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De roversbende die de Bush-Clinton dynastie omringt, begint hun vaste voet te verliezen.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:56 schreef Hallulama het volgende:

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Dat zou jammer zijn.

Regime VS vernieuwen, terugtrekken uit Irak, klaar voor Iran?

( Waarom Iran het volgende doel is )

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:11 schreef francorex het volgende:
Ja deze zaak gaat steeds dieper en dieper, meer en meer details raken bekend, maar waarom toch?

Deze zaak toont duidelijk aan hoe graag de bush administratie naar Irak wou, kost wa kost, toont nogmaal aan wie de agressor is in dit conflict.

Maar goed,

Wat ik me afvraag is wie of wat zit er achter Joseph Wilson, kan me namelijk moeilijk voorstellen dat het interview in de New York Times toevallig verscheen, ik bedoel maar dit is politieke intrige op het hoogste niveau. Mr. Wilson moet toch geweten hebben wat voor gevolgen zijn acties zouden kunnen hebben, allerminst 'patriotisch' en dan moet je sterk in je schoenen staan . Zeer sterk.

En dan nog, alleen ?

Mijn vermoeden is dat Mr. Wilsen het gezicht is van een groetere groep die uit zijn op ...?

Kijk naar de Downingmemo, die word probleemloos getackeld, nochthans daar word zwart op wit aangetoond de leugens, de intentie /vooringenoomheid om ten oorlog te trekken.

Dus de vraag is wie of wat zorgt ervoor dat deze zaak niet word getackeld, hardnekkig blijft terugkomen en uiteindelijk nu het hart van de Bush regering treft?

Spannend

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:18 schreef Braamhaar het volgende:

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Wat denk je zelf?
Zelfs je intuitie kan antwoord geven...

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:28 schreef Braamhaar het volgende:

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:-)

Slechts de poppetjes zullen vervangen worden.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:28 schreef francorex het volgende:

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Wat bedoel je juist met je intuitie kan antwoord geven?

Ik kan geen zinnig antwoord vinden waarom nu, waarom deze zaak...

Echt niet, geen idee

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 02:45 schreef Braamhaar het volgende:

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Bush en kornuiten zijn slechts poppetjes en daarmee vervangbaar.
Maar ja, wie trekt er dan aan de touwtjes....
Wie dat zijn dat weet ik niet.
Wat ik wel weet is dat daar op dat niveau 'spelletjes' gespeeld worden waar de mensheid niet bij gebaat is.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 03:23 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Voor hetzelfde geld is het gewoon het recht dat zegeviert.

Nog even geduld...

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 03:23 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Voor hetzelfde geld is het gewoon het recht dat zegeviert.

Nog even geduld...

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-- -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, on the eve of a trip to Washington, said he repeatedly tried to persuade U.S. President George W. Bush against invading Iraq.

The Italian leader voiced his unease with the military operation to topple Saddam Hussein during a television interview to be broadcast on Monday -- the same day he meets Bush.

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NIGER URANIUM?

The context of Berlusconi's answers in the interview were unclear since La7 only provided small excerpts.

The Italian leader has been defending himself against accusations in Italy that the country's intelligence agency, possibly after government pressure, passed-off fake documents to Washington used to bolster claims of Iraq's nuclear ambitions.

The documents purported that Iraq was seeking to buy uranium from Niger.

His office has sent out two statements in the past week categorically denying the accusations, made by left-leaning La Repubblica newspaper. Sismi intelligence agency chief Nicolo Pollari is due to address a closed-door parliamentary panel over the matter on November 3.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 05:33 schreef Vampier het volgende:
Amerikanen zijn inderdaad hardwerkend... heb al in 2 jaar geen vakantie meer gehad.

(zonder dollen dus)

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-- -- US congressional investigators said this week they had evidence that George Galloway had profited from the defunct UN program created to protect Iraqis from the harsh effects of sanctions against their Government.

The report said Mr Aziz, under questioning by the subcommittee, said he had discussed oil allocations with Mr Galloway and confirmed a letter in which the British Member of Parliament requested a bigger oil allocation.

"These are lies ... he [Mr Aziz] denied this," Mr Aziz's lawyer, Badia Aref, said.

"It is part of a media campaign aimed at smearing Galloway's reputation."

Mr Aref says Mr Aziz confirms that Iraq has given $A60,00 to the Mariam Appeal cancer charity set up by Mr Galloway, but only to help sick Iraqi children.

He says Mr Aziz, now in jail in Iraq, had made the comments in a questioning session some three months ago during which Mr Aziz was asked 110 questions about Mr Galloway.

The report said Mr Galloway personally solicited and was granted oil allocations from the Iraqi Government for 23 million barrels from 1999 to 2003.

It said Mr Galloway's wife received about $A200,000 in connection with the allocations and the Mariam fund received at least $A595,000.

Mr Galloway himself told the committee that he was not an oil trader and had never spoken to Mr Aziz about Iraq providing financial support for the Mariam Appeal.

He has also rejected the latest US accusations that he profited from the oil-for-food program.

Mr Aref says Mr Aziz refuses to "testify against anyone, including former president Saddam Hussein", whose trial started this month but has been adjourned until November.

Mr Aziz, a Christian who was the public face of Saddam's regime abroad, was arrested after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

No formal charges have been brought against him yet.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 17:52 schreef Vampier het volgende:
Rumsfeld moet ook even optiefen svp. Die jokers laten alle pionnen gaan.... misselijkmakend spelletje dit.

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-- -- AFTER THE two-year smear campaign orchestrated by senior officials in the Bush White House against my wife and me, it is tempting to feel vindicated by Friday's indictment of the vice president's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

Between us, Valerie and I have served the United States for nearly 43 years. I was President George H.W. Bush's acting ambassador to Iraq in the run-up to the Persian Gulf War, and I served as ambassador to two African nations for him and President Clinton. Valerie worked undercover for the CIA in several overseas assignments and in areas related to terrorism and weapons of mass destruction.

But on July 14, 2003, our lives were irrevocably changed. That was the day columnist Robert Novak identified Valerie as an operative, divulging a secret that had been known only to me, her parents and her brother.

Valerie told me later that it was like being hit in the stomach. Twenty years of service had gone down the drain. She immediately started jotting down a checklist of things she needed to do to limit the damage to people she knew and to projects she was working on. She wondered how her friends would feel when they learned that what they thought they knew about her was a lie.

It was payback — cheap political payback by the administration for an article I had written contradicting an assertion President Bush made in his 2003 State of the Union address. Payback not just to punish me but to intimidate other critics as well.

Why did I write the article? Because I believe that citizens in a democracy are responsible for what government does and says in their name. I knew that the statement in Bush's speech — that Iraq had attempted to purchase significant quantities of uranium in Africa — was not true. I knew it was false from my own investigative trip to Africa (at the request of the CIA) and from two other similar intelligence reports. And I knew that the White House knew it.

Going public was what was required to make them come clean. The day after I shared my conclusions in a New York Times opinion piece, the White House finally acknowledged that the now-infamous 16 words "did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union address."

That should have been the end. But instead, the president's men — allegedly including Libby and at least one other (known only as "Official A") — were determined to defame and discredit Valerie and me.

They used eager allies in Congress and the conservative media, beginning with Novak. Perhaps the most egregious of the attacks was New York GOP Rep. Peter King's odious suggestion that Valerie "got what she deserved."

Valerie was an innocent in this whole affair. Although there were suggestions that she was behind the decision to send me to Niger, the CIA told Newsday just a week after the Novak article appeared that "she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment." The CIA repeated the same statement to every reporter thereafter.

The grand jury has now concluded that at least one of the president's men committed crimes. We are heartened that our system of justice is working and appreciative of the work done by our fellow citizens who devoted two years of their lives to grand jury duty.

The attacks on Valerie and me were upsetting, disruptive and vicious. They amounted to character assassination. Senior administration officials used the power of the White House to make our lives hell for the last 27 months.

But more important, they did it as part of a clear effort to cover up the lies and disinformation used to justify the invasion of Iraq. That is the ultimate crime.

The war in Iraq has claimed more than 17,000 dead and wounded American soldiers, many times more Iraqi casualties and close to $200 billion.

It has left our international reputation in tatters and our military broken. It has weakened the United States, increased hatred of us and made terrorist attacks against our interests more likely in the future.

It has been, as Gen. William Odom suggested, the greatest strategic blunder in the history of our country.

We anticipate no mea culpa from the president for what his senior aides have done to us. But he owes the nation both an explanation and an apology.

JOSEPH C. WILSON IV was acting ambassador in Baghdad when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990. He is the author of "The Politics of Truth" (Carroll & Graff, 2004). He was a diplomat for 23 years.

Copyright 2005 Los Angeles Times

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9/11 Cover-up Judge Assigned to Libby Case

Wayne Madsen | October 31 2005

Comment: As is continually being confirmed, the indictment story is a total distraction and a set up steam valve to keep the left distracted.

Judge assigned to Libby case has links to Republican Right. US District Judge for DC Reggie Walton has been assigned the Lewis Libby case.

It is noteworthy to point out Walton's past and current links to the Republican Right and to elements in the Bush administration who have covered up important details about 911. Walton was appointed to the DC Superior Court in 1981 by Ronald Reagan.

In 1989, he was appointed by George H. W. Bush as the deputy drug czar under Bill Bennett. Walton was reappointed to the DC Superior Court by the senior Bush. George W. Bush nominated Walton to the US District Court for DC in 2001.

Walton was the judge who, under pressure from the Justice Department, placed a gag order on former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and cleared his courtroom of the public and media in Edmonds' hearing in her case against the FBI. Edmonds brought to light important information about how the FBI failed to translate important wiretap intercepts before and after 911.

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Op zondag 30 oktober 2005 23:40 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Rumsfeld moet zich volgens mij voornamelijk zorgen maken om [9/11] Able Danger

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The Pentagon, after weeks of silence, will allow participants in an intelligence cell that a year before the Sept. 11 attacks may have identified some of the ringleaders to testify before Congress. Their testimony could shed light on information that the Sept. 11 commission did not include in its report.

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Op vrijdag 16 december 2005 23:36 schreef multatuli het volgende:
Spiro Agnew moest aftreden wegens het aanpakken van steekpenningen en bekende (plea bargain) belastingontduiking. Was overigens net als Ford en Nixon een republikein. Dus Ford was geen deel van de oppositie. Je verwarring is dat hij 'minority leader' was toendertijd, maar dat kan omdat de presidentsverkiezingen niet bepalend zijn voor de verhoudingen in congress and parliament.

Verder geloof ik nog niet dat Cheney af gaat treden.

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Op vrijdag 16 december 2005 23:59 schreef francorex het volgende:

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Dank je voor verhelderende informatie Multatulie.

Cheney hoeft niet af te treden, hij kan verplicht worden net zoals Spiro Agnew. Ondertussen heeft de democraat Mc Cain zich mooi in de picture gespeeld...

De periode dat er geen oppositie was lijkt voorbij.

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Op zaterdag 17 december 2005 23:55 schreef One_of_the_few het volgende:

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hm, mc cain is toch een republikein?

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(10-02-06) Cheney 'Authorized' Libby to Leak Classified Information

Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, testified to a federal grand jury that he had been "authorized" by Cheney and other White House "superiors" in the summer of 2003 to disclose classified information to journalists to defend the Bush administration's use of prewar intelligence in making the case to go to war with Iraq, according to attorneys familiar with the matter, and to court records.

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Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 22:24 schreef Sebastral het volgende:
De brave man komt ook nauwelijks aan ontspannen toe de laatste tijd

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Moet genoeg zijn voor een fatsoenlijk rechtssysteem zou je zeggen

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Op woensdag 15 februari 2006 23:56 schreef popolon het volgende:
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http://cagle.com/news/CheneyShoots/

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Op zaterdag 25 februari 2006 22:11 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
White House 'Discovers' 250 Emails Related to Plame Leak

The White House turned over last week 250 pages of emails from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office. Senior aides had sent the emails in the spring of 2003 related to the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald revealed during a federal court hearing Friday.

The emails are said to be explosive, and may prove that Cheney played an active role in the effort to discredit Plame Wilson’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, a vocal critic of the Bush administration’s prewar Iraq intelligence, sources close to the investigation said.

Sources close to the probe said the White House “discovered” the emails two weeks ago and turned them over to Fitzgerald last week. The sources added that the emails could prove that Cheney lied to FBI investigators when he was interviewed about the leak in early 2004. Cheney said that he was unaware of any effort to discredit Wilson or unmask his wife’s undercover status to reporters.

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Meer op: truthout

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Dick Cheney to quit after elections

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The White House, according to Insight, anticipates Libby putting Cheney on the defensive with claims the vice president ordered Libby to relay classified information – a charge that could lead to a congressional probe and even impeachment proceedings.

"Nothing will happen until after the congressional elections," a GOP source told Insight. "After that, there will be significant changes in the administration and Cheney will probably be part of that."

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Op donderdag 6 april 2006 20:50 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
Update van CNN:

Libby court papers: Cheney said Bush OK'd intelligence leak

"The fact that the president was willing to reveal classified information for political gain and put interests of his political party ahead of Americas security shows that he can no longer be trusted to keep America safe," Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said."

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Op donderdag 6 april 2006 21:24 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:

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Ja, laten we vooral gaan luisteren naar die emotioneel instabiele Howard Dean.

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Op donderdag 6 april 2006 22:14 schreef Dagonet het volgende:

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Ach, jij luistert ook naar een geloofsfanatieke alcoholist met een drugsverleden.

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Op donderdag 6 april 2006 22:32 schreef Finder_elf_towns het volgende:

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Zijn Leo Strauss, Robert Spencer en Daniel Pipes "geloofsfanatieke alcoholisten met drugsverleden"?

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"If there's a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is," Bush told reporters at an impromptu news conference during a fund-raising stop in Chicago, Illinois. "If the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.

"I welcome the investigation. I am absolutely confident the Justice Department will do a good job.

"I want to know the truth," the president continued. "Leaks of classified information are bad things."

He added that he did not know of "anybody in my administration who leaked classified information."

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Op vrijdag 21 oktober 2005 22:44 schreef Sebastral het volgende:
Ik zou het niet te hard roepen .

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De Amerikaanse president George W. Bush heeft in 2003 perslekken toegestaan over Irak, om de oorlog daar te verdedigen. Dat heeft de ex-kabinetschef van vicepresident Dick Cheney, Lewis Libby, aan de procureur verteld.

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Op vrijdag 7 april 2006 14:48 schreef francorex het volgende:
De vraag is, hoeveel blazoen heeft deze ridder nog, wanneer komt de spreekwoordelijke druppel?

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Op vrijdag 7 april 2006 14:52 schreef Boswachtertje het volgende:

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En de volgende vraag: welke 'pop' neemt het dan over?

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"It's better to assume we will be attacked again and go from there," Giuliani said during a speech at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

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During his speech, Giuliani repeatedly lauded President Bush, and laughed off suggestions of his own presidential ambitions

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Op vrijdag 7 april 2006 16:10 schreef francorex het volgende:
Deze misschien;
Giuliani Predicts Another Terror Attack click

Former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani predicted Tuesday that 9/11 would not go down in history as the only large-scale terrorist attack on U.S. soil.

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_{Photo: Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani today described the horrors of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks while testifying at the Zacarias Moussaoui death penalty trial. (AP)}

Das pas strategie!

Wat doen we met zo iemand?

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Op vrijdag 7 april 2006 16:57 schreef Hallulama het volgende:
En Bush? Die wil niet reageren...

Fragment NOS Journaal

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Op vrijdag 7 april 2006 17:06 schreef Boswachtertje het volgende:

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Je mag aannemen dat ze na een nieuwe aanslagen Amerika in een politiestaat zullen veranderen. Guiliani schijnt ook niet zo'n fijne vent te zijn geweest. Ik ken em slechts van na 9/11, maar het schijnt geen topper te zijn geweest in NY ten tijde van zijn beleid.. weet even niet waar ik dit vandaan haal, maar hij is niet de held die Time van hem gemaakt heeft..

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Op zaterdag 8 april 2006 10:24 schreef huupia34 het volgende:
Guiliani heeft in het verleden naam gemaakt als district attorney(openbare aanklager)

hij wist john gotti (baas van de gambino maffia familie) en vele andere gangsters achter de tralies te krijgen eind jaren 80/ begin jaren 90