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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:00 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Je hebt totaal geen reet aan principes en normen en waarden als je dood bent.
Daarom is het juist zo van belang dat je ze etaleert zolang je nog leeft.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:01 schreef trein2000 het volgende:

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Je lijdt ook niet als je dood bent.
Een goede dood is een ontsnapping aan een slecht leven.
Prima reden om vandaag nog de wapenleveranties te stoppen.
graag verwijderen
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:02 schreef Pokkehandtas het volgende:

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Het zou normaal moeten zijn, pannenkoek, altijd,
Eens. En daarom ben ik pro-Oekrane.
zie email 27 oktober
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:03 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Prima reden om vandaag nog de wapenleveranties te stoppen.
Waar haal je die conclusie nu weer vandaan? :')
zie email 27 oktober
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 02:05:25 #155
37149 slashdotter3
Arrow to the knee!
pi_204621567
https://www.indiatoday.in(...)n-1535856-2019-05-27
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2019-05-27 - President not an icon, do not hang my photo in offices: Ukraine's comedian-president Volodymyr Zelenskyy
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Ukraine's New President Volodymyr Zelenskyy wants people to hang pictures of their children in their offices, and look at them each time they make a decision.


Ukrainian new President Volodymyr Zelenskyy holds the Ukrainian symbols of power during his inauguration ceremony in Kiev, Ukraine, Monday, May 20, 2019

"I really do not want my pictures in your offices, for the President is not an icon, an idol or a portrait. Hang your kids' photos instead, and look at them each time you are making a decision," Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Ukarine's new president said in his inaugural address today.

Taking over reigns of nation, which has been fed up with oligarch elite and battered by a violant war with Russia-backed separatists, Volodymyr Zelenskyy promised an honest and transparent governance run by people for the people.

In his inaugural address, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who is a comedian by profession and once joked about becoming president of Ukraine, presented the dream of a government run by leaders who do not mean to rule, but serve the common man.

"We will build the country of opportunities, one where all are equal before the law and where all the rules are honest and transparent, the same for everyone. And for that, we need people in power who will serve the people," Volodymyr Zelenskyy said.

Ukraine's new President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a comedian who played a fictional president on a TV sitcom till he actually became one.

Zelenskyy rose to fame playing a humble schoolteacher who becomes the president of Ukraine in the hit television show, 'Servant of the People'.

He appeals to Ukrainians who are frustrated with the country's oligarchic elite, and the failure to drain the swamp after the country's 2014 revolution. Ukrainians hope that Zelenskyy will fight for the common man instead.

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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:03 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Prima reden om vandaag nog de wapenleveranties te stoppen.
Onzin.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
pi_204621580
Schijnbaar vinden een aantal mensen het wel oke wat Putin doet, zolang de prijs aan de pomp maar niet omhoog gaat.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 02:14:49 #158
37149 slashdotter3
Arrow to the knee!
pi_204621584
Eerst spreekt Boris Johnson het Ukrainse parlement toe en daarna neemt Zelensky het woord

Dear Mr. Prime Minister!

Dear Mr. Chairman!

Dear people's deputies of Ukraine!

Ladies and Gentlemen!

First of all, I would like to thank the leader of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson, and all the people of the United Kingdom. For the words we hear. For the actions we see. For the support we feel. For the help we actually receive. For the victory that we will definitely gain together!

On October 8, 2020, our countries became strategic partners. And on February 24, 2022, we proved that our partnership is not on paper. Our partnership is on the battlefield. In the battles for common ideals, battles for a common future.

It has been almost ten weeks since the Russian Federation declared full-scale war against them and invaded our beautiful Ukrainian land. During this time, Ukraine and Britain have gone a path from partners to friends and brothers. And the one who lied that he is a friend and a brother has gone a path from a neighbor to an occupier and a terrorist. Is it sad? Yes. Is it scary? No. Because these almost ten weeks have proved: it is not scary when such an evil enemy is against you if such a good friend is next to you. Such as Great Britain. And leader Boris Johnson.

And these words are not flattery, not courtesy, they are reality. We are together. Almost every day. We are in touch. Daily. If we don't have a conversation today, it means only one thing: we are busy with what we agreed on yesterday. And it is so almost all these weeks, all this difficult time. For the sake of one goal, one moment - the first second of victory. And for the sake of one epoch - the epoch where peace reigns. In Ukraine, and therefore in Europe, and therefore in the world.

I would like to thank the United Kingdom, which is bringing this moment closer with us and which is ready to guarantee our security. And this gratitude of mine is not a formality. Because I know that the guarantees of Great Britain will never be a formality for Ukraine. Because these almost ten weeks have proved that your word is solid and your actions are decisive. Without any "almost". I hate that word - "almost".

As well as our interaction and support of British allies. First of all, it is a weapon and equipment for our military, which protects both Ukraine, Europe and the whole world from the Russian occupiers. I will not voice all the details to the public - let it be an unpleasant surprise for the aggressor every day.

Instead, I can speak openly about all other forms of support. This is humanity. And help for our refugees and internally displaced persons. Medicines, food, ambulances and fire engines and other large humanitarian aid. This is justice. And assistance in the investigation of war crimes of the Russian Federation in Ukraine. This is resilience. Macro-financial assistance for our economy. This is the abolition of customs duties, the abolition of quotas for our bilateral trade. This is the reconstruction of our land, this is the reconstruction of Kyiv and the Kyiv region, which will be joined by Great Britain.

These are important global things. Sanctions against the Russian Federation, energy embargo, asset blocking. These are ordinary, very simple human, but no less important, symbolic things. Blue and yellow flags on Trafalgar Square and Downing Street. When we are supported by London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Belfast, supported by Liverpool, Manchester and hundreds of other cities in this great state.

When Ukraine is supported by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

Sir Paul McCartney, Elton John and Sting. Richard Branson, Joanne Rowling, the Beckhams, Benedict Cumberbatch, Queen, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple. Ed Sheeran, Hugh Laurie, Stephen Fry, Kit Harington, Emilia Clarke, Daniel Radcliffe and, of course, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

It is also very important - the return of Melinda Simmons, and the recent visit of Prime Minister Johnson. At a very difficult time and at a very necessary moment. Our walk in the streets of Kyiv showed the world that the heart of Ukraine feels. Pain. But the people we met there, their words, their eyes, smiles and gifts - already famous roosters, the same as in Borodyanka - all this showed the world what our Ukrainian soul feels. Indomitability. Unbreakability. Therefore, hope for victory. Today, I, our parliament and the entire Ukrainian people can say one thing: thank you, Britain! Thank you, friends!

Dear people's deputies of Ukraine!

Please agree, when there is such unity in this hall, it is priceless! During these almost ten weeks, I have addressed the House of Commons, the US Congress, the European Parliament, the Bundestag, the Knesset, the Seimas, and many other parliamentarians and parliaments. But I did not address you. And this is not contempt, on the contrary - it is a great trust in you. You are here. And you know very well what is happening in our country. We are all citizens of this great state, and you know exactly what to do. I believe that has not changed in these almost ten weeks. I will be happy if the following becomes obvious and indisputable for you.

You are the people's deputies of the greatest state in the modern world! I'm sure of it! You are the people's deputies of Ukraine. Keywords are "people" and "Ukraine". I think we will abandon trifles, political speculation until peacetime, although it is better to abandon them forever. The agenda of the Verkhovna Rada is obvious. The keyword is "order". Because there is no time for spam, quarrels and PR - everyone already knows you. I think wise rationalism and sound nationalism are important. All this is very important for us today.

You are part of a large Ukrainian army. Your frontline is a legislative field in which you must work for our people, for each of us, for our state, for our victory. Like our army, like the whole country. Work 24/7. No days off, no unnecessary emotions, slogans, etc. Today we all have one party, and this party is Ukraine. One faction - Ukraine. One majority - Ukraine. One, strong, independent. And everything that does not help it or, God forbid, harms, weakens or splits, must be not in the minority, no. This must be a thing of the past.

Just like someone's hopes of sitting out somewhere. Currently, the absence of a deputy is justified by only two things: his work abroad or in the regions for the interests of our state or his death for the interests of the state. The rest is of no interest to Ukraine today. It doesn't need anything else, it won't have anything else! Anything else follows the Russian warship!

Please do not waste time on unnecessary laws. There are important priorities for the state. I know that you are professionals, you will do it. The state is waiting. Please do not waste your time, my time, the time of the people of Ukraine on minor initiatives and unimportant things. It seems to me that laws should be as timely as Lend-Lease. Accurate as our "Stugna" and "Bayraktar". And bring benefits like "Neptune". And glory like our army. And to be such that will go down in history like the people of Ukraine!

Glory to Ukraine!
pi_204621589
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:14 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
Eerst spreekt Boris Johnson het Ukrainse parlement toe en daarna neemt Zelensky het woord

Dear Mr. Prime Minister!

Dear Mr. Chairman!

Dear people's deputies of Ukraine!

Ladies and Gentlemen!

First of all, I would like to thank the leader of the United Kingdom, Boris Johnson, and all the people of the United Kingdom. For the words we hear. For the actions we see. For the support we feel. For the help we actually receive. For the victory that we will definitely gain together!

On October 8, 2020, our countries became strategic partners. And on February 24, 2022, we proved that our partnership is not on paper. Our partnership is on the battlefield. In the battles for common ideals, battles for a common future.

It has been almost ten weeks since the Russian Federation declared full-scale war against them and invaded our beautiful Ukrainian land. During this time, Ukraine and Britain have gone a path from partners to friends and brothers. And the one who lied that he is a friend and a brother has gone a path from a neighbor to an occupier and a terrorist. Is it sad? Yes. Is it scary? No. Because these almost ten weeks have proved: it is not scary when such an evil enemy is against you if such a good friend is next to you. Such as Great Britain. And leader Boris Johnson.

And these words are not flattery, not courtesy, they are reality. We are together. Almost every day. We are in touch. Daily. If we don't have a conversation today, it means only one thing: we are busy with what we agreed on yesterday. And it is so almost all these weeks, all this difficult time. For the sake of one goal, one moment - the first second of victory. And for the sake of one epoch - the epoch where peace reigns. In Ukraine, and therefore in Europe, and therefore in the world.

I would like to thank the United Kingdom, which is bringing this moment closer with us and which is ready to guarantee our security. And this gratitude of mine is not a formality. Because I know that the guarantees of Great Britain will never be a formality for Ukraine. Because these almost ten weeks have proved that your word is solid and your actions are decisive. Without any "almost". I hate that word - "almost".

As well as our interaction and support of British allies. First of all, it is a weapon and equipment for our military, which protects both Ukraine, Europe and the whole world from the Russian occupiers. I will not voice all the details to the public - let it be an unpleasant surprise for the aggressor every day.

Instead, I can speak openly about all other forms of support. This is humanity. And help for our refugees and internally displaced persons. Medicines, food, ambulances and fire engines and other large humanitarian aid. This is justice. And assistance in the investigation of war crimes of the Russian Federation in Ukraine. This is resilience. Macro-financial assistance for our economy. This is the abolition of customs duties, the abolition of quotas for our bilateral trade. This is the reconstruction of our land, this is the reconstruction of Kyiv and the Kyiv region, which will be joined by Great Britain.

These are important global things. Sanctions against the Russian Federation, energy embargo, asset blocking. These are ordinary, very simple human, but no less important, symbolic things. Blue and yellow flags on Trafalgar Square and Downing Street. When we are supported by London, Edinburgh, Cardiff, Belfast, supported by Liverpool, Manchester and hundreds of other cities in this great state.

When Ukraine is supported by the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.

Sir Paul McCartney, Elton John and Sting. Richard Branson, Joanne Rowling, the Beckhams, Benedict Cumberbatch, Queen, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple. Ed Sheeran, Hugh Laurie, Stephen Fry, Kit Harington, Emilia Clarke, Daniel Radcliffe and, of course, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.

It is also very important - the return of Melinda Simmons, and the recent visit of Prime Minister Johnson. At a very difficult time and at a very necessary moment. Our walk in the streets of Kyiv showed the world that the heart of Ukraine feels. Pain. But the people we met there, their words, their eyes, smiles and gifts - already famous roosters, the same as in Borodyanka - all this showed the world what our Ukrainian soul feels. Indomitability. Unbreakability. Therefore, hope for victory. Today, I, our parliament and the entire Ukrainian people can say one thing: thank you, Britain! Thank you, friends!

Dear people's deputies of Ukraine!

Please agree, when there is such unity in this hall, it is priceless! During these almost ten weeks, I have addressed the House of Commons, the US Congress, the European Parliament, the Bundestag, the Knesset, the Seimas, and many other parliamentarians and parliaments. But I did not address you. And this is not contempt, on the contrary - it is a great trust in you. You are here. And you know very well what is happening in our country. We are all citizens of this great state, and you know exactly what to do. I believe that has not changed in these almost ten weeks. I will be happy if the following becomes obvious and indisputable for you.

You are the people's deputies of the greatest state in the modern world! I'm sure of it! You are the people's deputies of Ukraine. Keywords are "people" and "Ukraine". I think we will abandon trifles, political speculation until peacetime, although it is better to abandon them forever. The agenda of the Verkhovna Rada is obvious. The keyword is "order". Because there is no time for spam, quarrels and PR - everyone already knows you. I think wise rationalism and sound nationalism are important. All this is very important for us today.

You are part of a large Ukrainian army. Your frontline is a legislative field in which you must work for our people, for each of us, for our state, for our victory. Like our army, like the whole country. Work 24/7. No days off, no unnecessary emotions, slogans, etc. Today we all have one party, and this party is Ukraine. One faction - Ukraine. One majority - Ukraine. One, strong, independent. And everything that does not help it or, God forbid, harms, weakens or splits, must be not in the minority, no. This must be a thing of the past.

Just like someone's hopes of sitting out somewhere. Currently, the absence of a deputy is justified by only two things: his work abroad or in the regions for the interests of our state or his death for the interests of the state. The rest is of no interest to Ukraine today. It doesn't need anything else, it won't have anything else! Anything else follows the Russian warship!

Please do not waste time on unnecessary laws. There are important priorities for the state. I know that you are professionals, you will do it. The state is waiting. Please do not waste your time, my time, the time of the people of Ukraine on minor initiatives and unimportant things. It seems to me that laws should be as timely as Lend-Lease. Accurate as our "Stugna" and "Bayraktar". And bring benefits like "Neptune". And glory like our army. And to be such that will go down in history like the people of Ukraine!

Glory to Ukraine!
Slechts chimpansee borstgetrommel.

De realiteit;

graag verwijderen
pi_204621591
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:24 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Slechts chimpansee borstgetrommel.

De realiteit;

Kernmachten kunnen vrijwel ieder land aanvallen, what's new? Over chimpansee borstgetrommel gesproken. Met dat prutsleger van ze :')
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
pi_204621592
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 01:43 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Hoorde gisteren een energieprofessor uitleggen dat Rusland wel eens heel wat meer centjes zou kunnen verdienen op de middellange termijn met energie-export aan India en China.

Plus Amerikaanse olie is voor ons onbruikbaar, Venezuela en Iran vinden we ook stout, blijft Saoedi-Arabi over, joe-pie.
Wat dan ook de reden is dat ze voluit inzetten op het uitfaseren van fossiele brandstoffen.

Voor China ligt dat niet heel anders omdat de luchtvervuiling daar soms letterlijk te snijden is.

En dan hebben we het nog niet eens gehad over het feit dat de hele infrastructuur is gericht op leveren aan het westen. Leveren naar het oosten van gas is iets wat heel duur over een jaar of vijf kan worden gerealiseerd. Olie leveren gaat ook veel duurder worden dan leveren aan Europa.
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 02:40:37 #162
37149 slashdotter3
Arrow to the knee!
pi_204621602
Rara wat is er vreemd aan dit plaatje:

Ukrainian An-124-100 once again forced to take a long route to Rzeszw after making a stop in Burgas, Bulgaria.

twitter
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 07:02:13 #163
385501 Starhopper
Nova is mijn prinses
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:40 schreef slashdotter3 het volgende:
Rara wat is er vreemd aan dit plaatje:

Ukrainian An-124-100 once again forced to take a long route to Rzeszw after making a stop in Burgas, Bulgaria.
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Waarom gaan ze niet via Roemeni en Hongarije?
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:03 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Prima reden om vandaag nog de wapenleveranties te stoppen.
Zou mooi zijn , Oekrane heeft een sterk leger en zal zich redden
Vakman pur sang
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:24 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Slechts chimpansee borstgetrommel.

De realiteit;

En als ze dat doen vuurt het VK hun 32 trident nukes af op Russische doelwitten vanaf hun kernonderzeers :z
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 07:20:48 #166
172669 Papierversnipperaar
Cafene is ook maar een drug.
pi_204621867
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 07:23:22 #167
385501 Starhopper
Nova is mijn prinses
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7s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 07:20 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Russische soldaten zijn homo's.
Laat Poetin het maar niet horen.

  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 07:25:56 #168
385501 Starhopper
Nova is mijn prinses
pi_204621905
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84s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 07:02 schreef Starhopper het volgende:

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Waarom gaan ze niet via Roemeni en Hongarije?
En niet over Servi-Montengro blijkbaar.
pi_204621952
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Het lijken wel prima mensen (op dat eerste wijf na dan :') ) :D
Vakman pur sang
pi_204621991
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:12 schreef Barbusse het volgende:
Schijnbaar vinden een aantal mensen het wel oke wat Putin doet, zolang de prijs aan de pomp maar niet omhoog gaat.
Denk je echt dat het om de pompprijs gaat, denk dat het een strohalm is. Baudet zei laatst nog dat Rusland nu europa (weer) aan het bevrijden is.

Ize geloven gewoon wat rusland doet terrecht is en rusland niet anders kan, en dat alles aan het westen ligt, maar dat het westen anders denkt vervormen ze hun argumenten met nadelen zoals pompprijzen.
pi_204622134
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Belarus holding military drills to Ukraine's north
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-61295448

Belarus, a close Russian ally and Ukraine's neighbour to its north, has started large-scale military drills - a potential cause for alarm in Ukraine.

The Belarusian defence ministry said the drills involved testing its army vehicles for combat readiness, but added that the exercise didn't pose a threat to neighbours.

However, Ukraine will be watching Belarus closely.

When Russia was striking Ukraine's north, including the capital Kyiv, a few weeks ago, Ukrainian officials alleged that some of the missiles appeared to come from the Belarusian side of the border.
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
When the student is truly ready, the teacher will disappear.
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 08:33:26 #173
241690 kibo
Semper Fidelis
pi_204622152
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Lijken me intelligente mensen ( op dat gare wijf na ) .
Betwijfel of dit een doorsnee is van de bevolking.
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 08:47:13 #174
385501 Starhopper
Nova is mijn prinses
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 08:33 schreef kibo het volgende:

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Lijken me intelligente mensen ( op dat gare wijf na ) .
Betwijfel of dit een doorsnee is van de bevolking.
Dat gare wijf is een voorbeeld van teveel Sputnik.
pi_204622362
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 00:19 schreef trein2000 het volgende:

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En descaleren betekent dan bukken voor Poetin neem ik aan? :')
Nah, misschien een klein beetje bukken of net doen alsof ze bukken.

Ze kunnen Oekraine ook steunen zonder al dat geschreeuw en gedreig eromheen waar vooral VS en VK zich schuldig aan maken.

Waarom moet de hele wereld weten voor hoeveel miljoenen of miljarden aan wapens gestuurd word en welk type wapens, stuur die wapens gewoon en hou je mond verder denk ik dan.
pi_204622443
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1s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 08:00 schreef Korenfok het volgende:

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Denk je echt dat het om de pompprijs gaat, denk dat het een strohalm is. Baudet zei laatst nog dat Rusland nu europa (weer) aan het bevrijden is.

Ize geloven gewoon wat rusland doet terrecht is en rusland niet anders kan, en dat alles aan het westen ligt, maar dat het westen anders denkt vervormen ze hun argumenten met nadelen zoals pompprijzen.
Het lijkt er gewoon op dat Rusland garanties wilde van NATO op niet uitbreiden.

Is daar over gesproken? Veilgheidsgaranties heen en weer? Wat was daar de uitkomst dan van? Ik heb het even gemist.

Sure Putin is gek, ik zie ook geen risico vanuit NATO dat ze offensief gaan doen, maar helemaal lekker dat er zware bommen gedropt kunnen worden vanaf dichtbij is het natuurlijk niet.

Amerika vond het ook niks dat Rusland op Cuba zat en dat begrijpt men dan weer wel.

Speelt nog mee dat oost Oekraine vermeent enorm Russisch gezind was, er intern oorlog gevoerd werd aldaar.
Dat stuk richting Kiev was puur om Zelensky af te zetten.

Schade van oorlog is natuurlijk veel groter en Poetin is knettergek, maar waar is de info in deze dat er gecommuniceerd is tussen de partijen voor de oorlog?

Die opbouw heeft 6-12 maanden plaatsgevonden.
"Het enkele feit dat de gewasbeschermingsmiddelen zijn toegelaten, geeft in ieder geval geen garantie op het ontbreken van met name een uitgesteld schadelijk effect op de gezondheid van mensen."
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 09:23:12 #177
477768 TweedeKlum
De echte Rico is op Zuid.
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 02:03 schreef UitStraling het volgende:

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Prima reden om vandaag nog de wapenleveranties te stoppen.
Meer dan genoeg reden om de wapenleveranties nog veel meer op te voeren. Elke dag wordt Oekrane sterker
Voor de dagelijkse Trumprotzooi: https://reportersonline.nl/auteur/kirsten-verdel/
Kijk live hoe Trump zijn eigen land sloopt: https://www.project2025.observer/
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 09:20 schreef ludovico het volgende:

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Het lijkt er gewoon op dat Rusland garanties wilde van NATO op niet uitbreiden.

Is daar over gesproken? Veilgheidsgaranties heen en weer? Wat was daar de uitkomst dan van? Ik heb het even gemist.

Sure Putin is gek, ik zie ook geen risico vanuit NATO dat ze offensief gaan doen, maar helemaal lekker dat er zware bommen gedropt kunnen worden vanaf dichtbij is het natuurlijk niet.

Amerika vond het ook niks dat Rusland op Cuba zat en dat begrijpt men dan weer wel.

Speelt nog mee dat oost Oekraine vermeent enorm Russisch gezind was, er intern oorlog gevoerd werd aldaar.
Dat stuk richting Kiev was puur om Zelensky af te zetten.

Schade van oorlog is natuurlijk veel groter en Poetin is knettergek, maar waar is de info in deze dat er gecommuniceerd is tussen de partijen voor de oorlog?

Die opbouw heeft 6-12 maanden plaatsgevonden.
Als een land iets wil betekent niet dat ze daarna maar een oorlog mogen beginnen als ze het niet krijgen.
Reason is not automatic, those who deny it cannot be conquered by it, Ayn Rand
Discuseren met domme mensen verlies ik omdat ik niet genoeg ervaring heb met dom lullen.
pi_204622686


Bijna...
  woensdag 4 mei 2022 @ 10:21:40 #180
8369 speknek
Another day another slay
pi_204623006
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0s.gif Op woensdag 4 mei 2022 09:20 schreef ludovico het volgende:

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Het lijkt er gewoon op dat Rusland garanties wilde van NATO op niet uitbreiden.

Is daar over gesproken? Veilgheidsgaranties heen en weer? Wat was daar de uitkomst dan van? Ik heb het even gemist.

Sure Putin is gek, ik zie ook geen risico vanuit NATO dat ze offensief gaan doen, maar helemaal lekker dat er zware bommen gedropt kunnen worden vanaf dichtbij is het natuurlijk niet.

Amerika vond het ook niks dat Rusland op Cuba zat en dat begrijpt men dan weer wel.

Speelt nog mee dat oost Oekraine vermeent enorm Russisch gezind was, er intern oorlog gevoerd werd aldaar.
Dat stuk richting Kiev was puur om Zelensky af te zetten.

Schade van oorlog is natuurlijk veel groter en Poetin is knettergek, maar waar is de info in deze dat er gecommuniceerd is tussen de partijen voor de oorlog?

Die opbouw heeft 6-12 maanden plaatsgevonden.
Letland ligt hemelsbreed net zo dichtbij Moskou als Oekrane, en de afstand Estland naar St Petersburg is al helemaal niks.

Verder was er ook niet echt sprake van Oekrane die bij de NAVO zou komen want dat was enige tijd geleden nog geveto'd.
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