Het grote Joe Biden topic #MAGA #1

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 20:56 schreef Belabor het volgende:

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Het woord collusion staat waar precies?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%932019)#/media/File%3AAppointment_of_Special_Counsel_to_Investigate_Russian_Interference_with_the_2016_Presidential_Election_and_Related_Matters.pdf

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 20:59 schreef Belabor het volgende:
Het is goed met jullie. Ik ga niet weer het verschil tussen obstruction of justice en collusion uitleggen aan mensen die het niet willen begrijpen.

Fijne avond.

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 20:59 schreef Belabor het volgende:
Het is goed met jullie. Ik ga niet weer het verschil tussen obstruction of justice en collusion uitleggen aan mensen die het niet willen begrijpen.

Fijne avond.

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 21:03 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Ja graag. Ga maar weg!!!

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 21:00 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:

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Collusion is geen juridische term in die context. Dus de opdracht kan in lekentaal gegeven zijn, maar de beantwoorde vraag, voor zover beantwoord is duidelijk een andere.

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 21:06 schreef Belabor het volgende:

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Zie het woord.

Not.

In dit document.

En nu ga ik echt

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 21:33 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:

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Hij deed onderzoek naar conspiracy, wat in de wet staat. Iedereen bedoelt wat anders met collusion.

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 20:22 schreef Chivaz het volgende:
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Zeg het maar, lijkt mij wel een onderzoekje waard niet?

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 21:33 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:

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Hij deed onderzoek naar conspiracy, wat in de wet staat. Iedereen bedoelt wat anders met collusion. Wat bedoel jij met collusion? Hoe typeer je het overhandigen van pollingdata aan een russische spion door de campagne?

Zoals het artikel waar ik je boven een linkje van heb gegeven stelt wat het rapport van de Senaat zegt:
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Gecombineerd met:
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Hoe typeer jij dat? Zou jij dat samenwerken noemen? Samenzweren? Het zoeken van samenwerken? Überhaupt wel laakbaar?

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 23:21 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:

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Ik snap niet wat je nou probeert te zeggen. In juridische zin kon Mueller conspiracy niet aantonen, daar kunnen we het over eens zijn. Dat "collusion" genoemd is in het scope document ook. Dat een woord gebruikt wordt wil niet betekenen dat anderen dat woord ook met die betekenis gebruikt hebben natuurlijk. Mueller interpreteerde dat vrij duidelijk, als openbaar aanklager, als conspiracy.

Een mooi voorbeeld hierover is ook "nepnieuws". Niet om nou in de hele geschiedenis te duiken, maar Trump bedoelt met nepnieuws het nieuws wat niet vlijend over hem is of wat hij als vijandelijk ziet, waar anderen het over letterlijke onwaarheid hebben, waar het ook mee begon.

Stone is niet veroordeeld voor conspiracy. Waarom zou dit relevant zijn? Ik had al gesteld dat de juridische conspiracy geen collusion is in het dagelijks taalgebruik, zoals jij zelf ook in jouw reactie stelt.

Hoe typeer jij dat:
- de Trump campagne polling data gaf aan een Russische spion?
- de Trump campagne wilde weten wanneer welke informatie over de gehackte emails vrij kwam, hiervoor moeite deed, dit kreeg en er hun strategie op aanpaste?

Zou jij dat bijvoorbeeld samenwerken noemen? Samenzweren? Heimelijk samenwerken? Het zoeken van samenwerken? Vind je het überhaupt wel laakbaar?

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 23:21 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:

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Ik snap niet wat je nou probeert te zeggen.

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In juridische zin kon Mueller conspiracy niet aantonen, daar kunnen we het over eens zijn. Dat "collusion" genoemd is in het scope document ook. Dat een woord gebruikt wordt wil niet betekenen dat anderen dat woord ook met die betekenis gebruikt hebben natuurlijk. Mueller interpreteerde dat vrij duidelijk, als openbaar aanklager, als conspiracy.

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Een mooi voorbeeld hierover is ook "nepnieuws". Niet om nou in de hele geschiedenis te duiken, maar Trump bedoelt met nepnieuws het nieuws wat niet vlijend over hem is of wat hij als vijandelijk ziet, waar anderen het over letterlijke onwaarheid hebben, waar het ook mee begon.

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Stone is niet veroordeeld voor conspiracy. Waarom zou dit relevant zijn? Ik had al gesteld dat de juridische conspiracy geen collusion is in het dagelijks taalgebruik, zoals jij zelf ook in jouw reactie stelt.

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Hoe typeer jij dat:
- de Trump campagne polling data gaf aan een Russische spion?
- de Trump campagne wilde weten wanneer welke informatie over de gehackte emails vrij kwam, hiervoor moeite deed, dit kreeg en er hun strategie op aanpaste?

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Zou jij dat bijvoorbeeld samenwerken noemen? Samenzweren? Heimelijk samenwerken? Het zoeken van samenwerken? Vind je het überhaupt wel laakbaar?

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Op woensdag 14 oktober 2020 23:42 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:

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Ik kan me voorstellen dat het moeilijk is voor mensen die er zo stevig in zitten om dan ineens een draai te maken.

Dellipder probeerde het door te doen alsof anderen gedraaid zijn en er revisionisme plaatsvond. Dat is een uitweg natuurlijk om het niet over de inhoud te moeten hebben, maar vanuit mijn perspectief bezijden de waarheid. Niet zinvol verder om daar specifiek over in discussie te treden en dit topic is hier ook niet het topic voor lijkt me. De vragen staan ook nog wel open voor hem natuurlijk als hij dat wil beantwoorden, want dit was wel een tikkeltje zwak.

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Notice Biden campaign not denying Post’s scoop facts on Hunter Biden’s sleaze

Notice that Joe Biden and his campaign aren’t disputing the basic facts The Post has uncovered about Hunter Biden’s cashing in on his dad’s high office.

The ex-veep called “a lid” for the day at 9:41 a.m. Wednesday, indicating he’d make no more appearances. So reporters couldn’t push him about his past claims that he’d “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” now that data from an old hard drive suggest that’s not so.

E-mails reveal that Hunter introduced a top executive of Burisma, the Ukrainian natural gas firm on whose board he sat, to his dad while Joe was in the White House — and less than a year before the veep pushed the Ukrainian government into firing a prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.

Vadym Pozharskyi, a top Burisma adviser, e-mailed Hunter in May 2014 asking for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. Then he e-mailed a note of gratitude on April 17, 2015, a year after Hunter had been brought on with a salary reported to be $50,000 a month: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

Hunter didn’t resign from Burisma’s board until April 2019, the same month his dad announced his run for president.

The Biden campaign didn’t respond to The Post’s five pre-publication requests for comment nor ever deny the e-mails’ veracity. It won’t even say Joe never met with Pozharskyi — but only that no such meeting shows on his “official schedules.”

Nor did Hunter dispute The Post’s reporting. His lawyer George Mesires refused comment, except to slam Rudy Giuliani, who gave us a copy of the hard drive Sunday.

A Delaware computer shop owner told The Post the laptop was brought in for repair in April 2019 but never picked up. He turned it over to the FBI, while giving a copy of the drive to Giuliani’s lawyer.

When a Democratic voter in December suggested Burisma hired Hunter purely for access to his dad, Joe called the guy “fat” and challenged him to a push-up contest. And that’s not remotely the only time Joe has grown angry at questions about Hunter’s profiteering. Now we have an idea why.

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If ‘unreliable’ is the issue, why did social media never block anti-Trump stories?

This is what totalitarianism looks like in our century: not men in darkened cells driving screws under the fingernails of dissidents, but Silicon Valley dweebs removing from vast swaths of the Internet a damaging exposé on their preferred presidential candidate.

That’s what Facebook and Twitter did to the New York Post’s bombshell report on Hunter Biden, revealing why the illustrious vice-presidential son was hired by a shady Ukrainian energy firm in exchange for at least $50,000 a month.

According to e-mails obtained by The Post, Hunter introduced the firm’s executives to his father — just when Joe Biden was the second-most powerful man on earth, with outsize influence over the fate of the embattled Eastern European country.

That information is squarely in the public interest as we head into an election, right? Yes, but it’s also extremely embarrassing for President Trump’s opponent, and so social-media executives went into action.


Andy Stone, a member of Facebook’s p.r. team, said, “We are reducing [the Post story’s] distribution on our platform.” Before joining the social-media giant, Stone worked for Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, yet he insisted that Facebook’s action was “part of our standard process to reduce the spread of misinformation.” Right.

Then, Twitter began blocking users from posting the story, with a spokesman telling a Washington Examiner scribe that the move was prompted by “the lack of authoritative reporting on the origins of the materials included” in the report.

Misinformation? Lack of authoritative reporting? The story explained exactly The Post got the material, and the supporting evidence. Yet the past four years have seen left-of-center outlets devote millions of column inches to anti-Trump stories that turned out to be utter bunk — yet neither Facebook nor Twitter took similar action as part of any “standard process”:

Remember when four CNN reporters claimed, in June 2017, that James Comey was about to dispute in congressional testimony Trump’s claim that the FBI director had reassured the president he wasn’t under investigation? Comey did no such thing, but did Twitter and Facebook censor the story? Nope.
 
Or recall when The Guardian newspaper concocted a story, seemingly out of thin air, about Trump campaign chief Paul Manafort and WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange meeting at Ecuador’s embassy in London? There was no such meeting, as the special counsel’s report confirmed. So did Facebook or Twitter block that story? Nope, you can still post the debunked nonsense on either platform.
 
Or remember when The Atlantic published a several-thousand-word story suggesting that then-Sen. Jeff Sessions had lied when he said he didn’t meet the Russian ambassador as a Team Trump surrogate, but as a routine matter? The Mueller report debunked The Atlantic decisively with its finding that the meeting in question didn’t “include any more than a passing mention of the presidential campaign.” So is The Atlantic story blocked as misinformation? Nope.
 
Or how about when the McClatchy news agency claimed that Trump attorney Michael Cohen had secretly traveled to Prague to meet with his Kremlin handlers? “Cohen had never traveled to Prague,” the Mueller report found. So is the McClatchy report blocked? You know the answer — of course it isn’t.
 

Then there was BuzzFeed’s big bombshell that fizzled: a major story claiming that Trump had ordered Cohen to lie to Congress. The Mueller report’s verdict: “The president did not direct [Cohen] to provide false testimony. Cohen also said he did not tell the president about his planned testimony.” Did Facebook and Twitter block the link or otherwise “reduce distribution” pending fact-checking? Of course not. You can still post the lies freely.

Then there was the biggest of whopper of all: the salacious — and utterly discredited — Steele dossier, first reported by David Corn of Mother Jones and later published by BuzzFeed. Blocked by Big Tech? Ha!

The Post will continue to chase the truth wherever it takes us. But this episode should alarm ­every American. A very few people can unaccountably shape what you read.

This is how freedom dies.

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Hunter Biden emails under investigation by Senate Homeland Security Committee after hard drive report emerges

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee is investigating newly released emails that reveal that Hunter Biden introduced his father, former Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings in 2015 at Hunter's request.

Committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis., told Fox News on Wednesday that the committee has been in touch with the person who provided the emails and was in the process of validating the information.

The emails in question were obtained by the New York Post and revealed that Biden’s son introduced the then-vice president to a top executive at Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings less than a year before he pressured government officials in Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin, who was investigating the company.

"We regularly speak with individuals who email the committee’s whistleblower account to determine whether we can validate their claims," Johnson told Fox News. "Although we consider those communications to be confidential, because the individual in this instance spoke with the media about his contact with the committee, we can confirm receipt of his email complaint, have been in contact with the whistleblower, and are in the process of validating the information he provided.”

The Post report revealed that Biden, at Hunter’s request, met with Vadym Pozharskyi in April 2015 in Washington, D.C.

The meeting was mentioned in an email of appreciation, according to the Post, that Pozharskyi sent to Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015 — a year after Hunter took on his lucrative position on the board of Burisma.

“Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email read.

An earlier email from May 2014 also showed Pozharskyi, reportedly a top Burisma executive, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf, the Post reported.

The meeting took place less than a year before the former vice president purportedly pressured government officials in Ukraine to fire prosecutor Viktor Shokin.

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Johnson's committee has been investigating Hunter Biden's foreign business dealings since 2019, and last month released an interim report on their monthslong probe into Hunter Biden’s role on the board of Burisma and his alleged “extensive and complex financial transactions.”

Johnson and Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, said their investigation has “faced many obstacles” from Democrats on their committees and that executive agencies “failed to comply with document requests.”

The chairmen added that “there remains much work to be done” in their probe. Hunter Biden is the son of the Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden. His work background played a starring role in the Trump impeachment efforts earlier this year. He and his father have denied any wrongdoing related to his work.

The 87-page report stated that Obama administration officials “knew” that Hunter Biden’s position on the board of Burisma was “problematic” and that it interfered “in the efficient execution of policy with respect to Ukraine.”

“This investigation has illustrated the extent to which officials within the Obama administration ignored the glaring warning signs when the vice president’s son joined the board of a company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligarch,” the report’s executive summary stated.

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 04:05 schreef Sjemmert het volgende:

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https://nypost.com/2020/1(...)-anti-trump-stories/

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:22 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Dit is de bevestiging.

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De e-mailadressen in The New York Post verhaal zijn geverifieerd. De e-mail van Vadym Pozharskyi bevat gegevens die teruggaan tot 2014 en is geregistreerd op het adres van Burisma.

An OSINT investigation into the alleged Hunter Biden email

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tl;dr: It appears that the email addresses appearing in the alleged email are accurate. This does not validate nor refute the content of said email.

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:22 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Dit is de bevestiging.

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De e-mailadressen in The New York Post verhaal zijn geverifieerd. De e-mail van Vadym Pozharskyi bevat gegevens die teruggaan tot 2014 en is geregistreerd op het adres van Burisma.

An OSINT investigation into the alleged Hunter Biden email

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:39 schreef Belabor het volgende:

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"Bevestiging".

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:43 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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De e-mailadressen zijn geverifieerd en de campagne sluit niet uit dat de ontmoeting heeft plaatsgevonden. Zo moeilijk is dit niet om te bevatten.

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:46 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:

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Alleen zitten er naar grote waarschijnlijkheid fake emails tussen de echte. Het draadje van Thomas Rid zegt daar meer over. Het een is bekende Russische taktiek om misinformatie te verspreiden.

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:43 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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De e-mailadressen zijn geverifieerd en de campagne sluit niet uit dat de ontmoeting heeft plaatsgevonden. Zo moeilijk is dit niet om te bevatten.
En de spastische kramp waarin Big Tech schiet geeft ook een "vage indicatie".

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:46 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Damn Russians again!!!!

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:43 schreef dellipder het volgende:
En de spastische kramp waarin Big Tech schiet geeft ook een "vage indicatie".

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:54 schreef Aurelius het volgende:

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Hoop echt dat dit grote gevolgen voor ze heeft. Het is nu wel overduidelijk dat ze een gevaar zijn voor een open samenleving.

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De gehakte tax returns van Trump publiceren was geen enkel probleem voor ze. Dat werd zelf een etmaal trending gehouden.

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 07:59 schreef Belabor het volgende:

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Tsja.

Het verschil tussen bronnen die het verhaal kunnen bevestigen als waar en een enkele bron die dus door niemand anders bevestigd kan worden.

Het is moeilijk hè, journalistiek.

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The Hunter Emails

A corrupt Ukraine firm reportedly got direct access to then-vice president Joe Biden through his son.
According to a 2015 email, then–vice president Joe Biden met with a top executive at Burisma, the Ukrainian energy firm that paid Biden’s son, Hunter, $50,000 a month to sit on its board. Earlier, the Burisma executive had asked Hunter to use his influence to quell Ukrainian government officials who were trying to extort the company. Months later, Vice President Biden coerced the Ukrainian government into firing a prosecutor who says he was gearing up an investigation of Burisma.

The evidence that Vice President Biden gave access to the company that was paying his son is disputed. It comes from emails stored on the hard drive of a laptop computer that appears to be Hunter Biden’s. The emails were disclosed in a report by the New York Post.

The Post was alerted to the hard drive’s existence by Steve Bannon, a former Trump adviser. The paper received a copy of the hard drive from Rudy Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer. A Biden spokesman claims that, according to Biden’s official schedule, he never met with the Burisma official. Obviously, that does not prove that the meeting did not happen, any more than the email, by itself and without more authentication, proves beyond a doubt that it did happen.

Remarkably, with less than three weeks to go before the presidential election pitting Vice President Biden against President Trump, and with Americans already casting their ballots, the mainstream media, along with Facebook and Twitter, are suppressing the Post’s report. As Reason’s Robby Soave explains, reporters who have reported on it — even critically — have been denounced by other journalists and progressive groups.

Late last year, the FBI took possession of the laptop pursuant to a grand-jury subpoena, the Post recounts.

Vice President Biden has insisted repeatedly that he had no involvement in Hunter’s foreign business dealings and never even discussed them with his son.

Yet, in an email on April 17, 2015, Vadym Pozharskyi, the Burisma executive, thanked Hunter for arranging a meeting for him with the vice president in Washington. A few months later, Vice President Biden squeezed the Ukrainian government to fire its prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin, who maintains that his office was preparing to investigate Burisma. Shokin was fired after the vice president threatened to withhold desperately needed American government aid.

Recounting his December 2015 meeting in Kyiv with Ukraine’s then-president, Petro Poroshenko, and then-prime minister, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Joe Biden has explained his threat to withhold $1 billion in aid to Ukraine’s financially strapped government:

I looked at them and said: “I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.” Well, son of a bitch, he got fired!

The former vice president related the incident during a 2018 speech to the Council on Foreign Relations.

Biden and his supporters have insisted that the Obama administration wanted Shokin fired because he was corrupt and European leaders wanted him out. Biden claims that threatening to withhold American aid in order to pressure Ukraine to act had nothing to do with a personal political agenda involving Hunter or Burisma.

President Trump was impeached by House Democrats for threatening to withhold American aid in order to pressure Ukraine to act in furtherance of a personal political agenda.

Burisma is a notoriously corrupt energy company founded by Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky. It was recently implicated in a $6 million bribery scheme (apparently long after Hunter Biden severed ties with Burisma). The firm retained Hunter Biden to join its board of directors in April 2014, paying him lavishly even though he had no experience in the energy sector. At the time, his father, the vice president, was the Obama administration’s point man on Ukrainian policy.

If the laptop evidence is to be believed, on May 12, 2014, shortly after Hunter Biden joined the Burisma board, Pozharskyi sent an email to Hunter Biden and his business partner, Devon Archer. In it, Pozharskyi explained that Ukrainian officials were pressuring the company — specifically, they were seeking “cash” payments from a man identified in the email as “N.Z.” The initials very likely refer to Zlochevsky, whose first name is rendered in English as Nicholas.

Pozharskyi reminded Hunter that he had informed Hunter on previous occasions that Ukrainian government officials, in unofficial “communications” that “entail blackmailing” N.Z., had indicated that if Burisma did not “cooperate,” N.Z.’s gas-production business would be destroyed by regulatory and other intimidating government action.

Pozharskyi told Biden and Archer:

We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal, etc .to stop what we consider to be politically motivated actions. [sic.]

On the same day as the email, Burisma publicly announced that Hunter Biden had joined its board and would be running its “legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations.” The Post notes that Hunter Biden’s lawyer has claimed that Hunter was never in charge of Burisma’s legal affairs.

Four months after the email and the Burisma announcement, the Post reports, Archer forwarded to Hunter an email about the impact of new Ukrainian tax legislation that Pozharskyi said “would kill the entire private gas production sector.”

Devon Archer, Biden’s partner, is a former senior adviser to John Kerry, a close friend and confidant of Joe Biden’s. Kerry served for decades with Biden in the Senate and was secretary of state for the last four years of the Obama administration. Archer was the college roommate of Kerry’s stepson, Christopher Heinz. Last week, a federal appeals court in Manhattan reinstated Archer’s 2018 fraud and conspiracy convictions, arising out of a scheme involving the sale of $60 million in bonds issued by an economic-development corporation affiliated with a native American tribe. Hunter Biden was implicated in the evidence but not charged in the case. The appellate court’s ruling reversed a decision by U.S. District Judge Ronnie Abrams, who had ruled that a jury would not be able to convict because there was insufficient evidence of intent.

On April 17, 2015, Pozharskyi expressed gratitude to Hunter for arranging a meeting for him with Vice President Biden in Washington, D.C. As his email states:

Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s really an honor and pleasure. As we spoke yesterday evening, would be great to meet today for a quick coffee. What do you think? I could come to you [sic] office somewhere around noon or so, before or on my way to airport. Best, V

As related above, it was in December 2015 that Vice President Biden threatened to withhold the American aid from Ukraine if it did not fire the prosecutor.

Zlochevsky was aligned with Viktor Yanukovych, the Russia-friendly Ukrainian president driven from power amid the Euromaidan protests that began in late 2013. The uprising was actively supported by the Obama administration. After Yanukovych fled to Moscow in early 2014, the new government, under Poroshenko, was deeply beholden to the Obama administration and American aid.

The emails outlined by the Post are said to have been stored on the hard drive of a laptop computer that appears to be Hunter Biden’s. The laptop, a MacBook Pro, is said to have been brought to a repair shop in Delaware in April 2019. The shop owner, whose name has not been reported, could not identify Hunter Biden as the customer. But the Post says the laptop bore a sticker from the Beau Biden Foundation — named after Hunter’s brother (the vice president’s older son, who is deceased).

On the computer’s hard drive, in addition to the emails, were photos and other materials that appear to belong to Hunter. These include what the Post describes as a “raunchy” video, allegedly depicting Hunter — who has had drug-addiction issues — smoking crack and engaged in a sex act with an unidentified woman.

The shop owner was subpoenaed by the Delaware U.S. attorney’s office to produce the laptop for a federal grand jury by December 17, 2019. The Post report includes a photograph of the subpoena. The shop owner told the Post that he made a copy of the laptop’s hard drive before surrendering the computer to the FBI. He later gave a copy of hard drive to Robert Costello, an attorney for Rudy Giuliani, the former New York City mayor who is President Trump’s personal lawyer.

The Post says it got a copy of the hard drive this past Sunday from Giuliani. The Post had been told about the hard drive in late September by Bannon, the former Trump White House adviser. Weeks earlier, in August, Bannon was indicted on fraud charges by a federal grand jury Manhattan. He has pleaded not guilty.

Thus far, the Biden camp has not conceded the authenticity of the hard-drive materials, including the emails. It is unclear why the emails are just coming to light now. In December 2019, when the FBI and Delaware’s U.S. attorney obtained them, House Democrats were concluding impeachment proceedings against President Trump. In early February, the president was acquitted by the Republican-controlled Senate of the two articles of impeachment voted by the House along party lines.

The impeachment focused on Trump’s pressuring Ukraine to investigate alleged corruption involving the Bidens. The president’s legal team made halting efforts to confront the allegations by claiming there was evidence that Burisma, a reputedly corrupt firm, was paying Hunter Biden for his influence — i.e., Hunter’s access to the Obama administration, which had great suasion over Ukrainian government officials.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/10/the-hunter-emails-report/

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 08:21 schreef Aurelius het volgende:
Hele verhaal mooi samengevat in een helder artikel, inclusief herkomst van de emails en eerdere corruptie schandalen.
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He appeared not to have a grasp on the timeline of the laptop arriving at his shop and its disappearance from it. He also said the impeachment of President Trump was a “sham.” Social media postings indicate that Mac Isaac is an avid Trump supporter and voted for him in the 2016 election.

Mac Isaac said he had a medical condition that prevented him from actually seeing who dropped off the laptop but that he believed it to be Hunter Biden’s because of a sticker related to the Beau Biden Foundation that was on it.

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 08:38 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Nou, dan zal het wel niet lang meer duren voordat Biden en Clinton achter de tralies verdwijnen!

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 09:07 schreef Gehenna het volgende:

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Nou precies

En Obama, met z'n gate. Weet iemand inmiddels al wat die in zou moeten houden ?

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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 09:05 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Kom op, mensen. Laten we wel een beetje kritisch blijven.

Vergeet niet dat een recent onderzoek naar deze kwestie, uitgevoerd door de Republikeinen in de Senaat, niets opleverde: Republican Inquiry Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Biden. Als de FBI al een jaar in bezit was van deze gegevens, waarom zijn die mails dan niet meegenomen in het onderzoek van de Republikeinen?

De eigenaar van de computershop is ook nog eens een rare snuiter, een fervent aanhanger van Trump en blijkbaar iemand die gelooft dat Seth Rich is vermoord door de Clintons. Ook lijdt hij aan een bijzondere ziekte:
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Op donderdag 15 oktober 2020 09:10 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Nou, Trump had toch laatst weer beloofd dat hij alles openbaar zou gaan maken.
Alleen laat dat nog een beetje op zich wachten.

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Op de harddisk staan ook seksfoto’s van Hunter en foto’s terwijl hij crack aan het roken is.