[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #701 Make Foreign People Happy Again.

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Op zondag 5 januari 2020 23:47 schreef Doublepain het volgende:

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TomiLahren twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 23:02:12 Trump orders killing of Al Baghdadi: Left mourns terrorist Trump facilitates robust economy:Left cheers for recession Trump orders withdrawal from Syria:Left wants war Trump orders killing of Soleimani:Left mourns terrorist/supports murderous regime Notice a pattern? reageer retweet

Couldn't agree more

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Op zondag 5 januari 2020 23:47 schreef Doublepain het volgende:

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TomiLahren twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 23:02:12 Trump orders killing of Al Baghdadi: Left mourns terrorist Trump facilitates robust economy:Left cheers for recession Trump orders withdrawal from Syria:Left wants war Trump orders killing of Soleimani:Left mourns terrorist/supports murderous regime Notice a pattern? reageer retweet

Couldn't agree more

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mkraju twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 01:27:29 Trump doubles down on going after Iran cultural sites: “They’reallowed to kill our people. They’re allowed to torture and maim our people. They’re allowed to use roadside bombs and blow up our people. And we’re not allowed to touch their cultural site? It doesn’t work that way.” reageer retweet

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mkraju twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 01:29:19 Trump also tells pool he will slap Iraq with “very big sanctions” if they force US troops to leave. “We have a very extraordinarily expensive air base that’s there. It cost billions of dollars to build. Long before my time. We’re not leaving unless they pay us back for it. reageer retweet

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mkraju twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 01:29:47 Trump added: “If they do ask us to leave, if we don’t do it in a very friendly basis. We will charge them sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever. It’ll make Iranian sanctions look somewhat tame.” reageer retweet

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RWPUSA twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 00:31:11 What a wind bag. @realDonaldTrump creates an international crisis to distract from impeachment and then he ramps it up with hot air on Twitter. https://t.co/VBHCGJkrvg reageer retweet

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RWPUSA twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 01:43:34 What is this?A Tweet from some wack job terrorist organization obsessed with weird symbolism?A threat to violate international treaties and blow up cultural sites?Somebody (the U.S. Senate) needs to take this guy out of action. https://t.co/vD1OIh1LBC reageer retweet

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On Friday afternoon President Trump praised Tucker Carlson along with other conservative Fox News stars. "We have great people," Trump said.

A few hours later Carlson tore into Trump's decision to authorize the US airstrike that killed Iran's top general Qasem Soleimani.

While he mostly refrained from criticized Trump directly, Carlson condemned "chest-beaters" who advocate for foreign interventions. He asked four questions that made clear his anti-war point of view: "Is Iran really the greatest threat we face? And who's actually benefiting from this? And why are we continuing to ignore the decline of our own country in favor of jumping into another quagmire from which there is no obvious exit? By the way, if we're still in Afghanistan, 19 years, sad years, later, what makes us think there's a quick way out of Iran?"

"Nobody is thinking like that right now," Carlson added. "Instead, chest-beaters like Senator Ben Sasse of Nebraska are making the usual war-like noises, the noises they always make."

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ddale8 twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 02:42:12 Trump didn’t specify here, but the air base he has previously talked about costing the US “a fortune” to build, Al Asad, was actually built by...Iraq, in the ‘80s. The US has invested in improvements. https://t.co/6Xo99b2LQ5 reageer retweet

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ddale8 twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 02:47:11 One expert told me early this year that the US had spent "tens of millions" on Al Asad, not the "billions" Trump claims. Here's my fact check from the Toronto Star. https://t.co/E6TSidqDF8 reageer retweet

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jonathanvswan twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 23:50:05 Scoop: Trump officials tried to stop Iraqi expulsion vote https://t.co/GXaWxUdKFd reageer retweet

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jwgop twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 01:34:15 The "president" is insane. The GOP Congress self subjugated to this modern Caligula. Join us @ProjectLincoln to stop them. reageer retweet

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mccaffreyr3 twitterde op maandag 06-01-2020 om 04:56:22 Our President is increasingly irrational. Acting only with small group of WH sycophants. Demand payment for an Iraqi air field? Make same demands on NATO? Japan and S Korea? Sanction a non threat nation if asked to leave? What does Senate think? AG? Sec Def? reageer retweet

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President Donald Trump insisted Sunday that Iranian cultural sites were fair game for the U.S. military, dismissing concerns within his own administration that doing so could constitute a war crime under international law. He also warned Iraq that he would levy punishing sanctions if it expelled American troops in retaliation for a U.S. airstrike in Baghdad that killed a top Iranian official.

Trump’s comments came amid escalating tensions in the Middle East following the killing of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds force. Iran has vowed to retaliate and Iraq’s parliament responded by voting Sunday to oust U.S. troops based in the country.

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AndrewBritani twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 15:02:21 BREAKING:It's official.PM, Adil Abdel Mahdi asks the withdrawal of all US forces from Iraq and suspend deals. reageer retweet

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:30 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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AndrewBritani twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 15:02:21 BREAKING:It's official.PM, Adil Abdel Mahdi asks the withdrawal of all US forces from Iraq and suspend deals. reageer retweet

Lekker vlot iig.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:41 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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Zullen de Amerikanen wel lang proberen te rekken.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:45 schreef Janneke141 het volgende:

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Wat wil Iraq doen als ze niet gaan, eigenlijk?

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IgorZhdanovRT twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 16:15:43 #BREAKING If this is indeed so, that would mean the U.S. bombed a man who was acting in the capacity of a diplomatic envoy. This is a big, big, BIG no-no according to the international law. #Iraq #Suleimani #Suleymani #Iran https://t.co/Bysl3ChqzL reageer retweet

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:45 schreef Janneke141 het volgende:

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Wat wil Iraq doen als ze niet gaan, eigenlijk?

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:45 schreef Janneke141 het volgende:

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Wat wil Iraq doen als ze niet gaan, eigenlijk?

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Why Obama, Bush, and Bibi All Passed on Killing Soleimani

The Iranian general was in American crosshairs before. But nobody could begin to be sure what would come next if Soleimani were killed, and no scenario looked good.

Until the Trump administration blew him away in Baghdad in the pre-dawn dark of Friday morning, Qassem Soleimani had made the very fact of his survival part of his considerable mystique. The powerful Iranian general commanded forces that had become the scourge of Iran’s adversaries abroad, especially the United States and Israel. Yet he came and went to the war fronts of the Middle East unscathed.

In fact, conscious decisions were taken under the George W. Bush administration, even when Soleimani was in the crosshairs, not to pull the trigger. Gen. Stanley McChrystal wrote last year, he had a shot in 2007 but let Soleimani go: “The decision not to act is often the hardest one to make—and it isn’t always right.”

Ali Khedery, a former U.S. adviser in Iraq, told The Daily Beast that not striking Soleimani when they had the chance was an “enormous frustration to me and many of my colleagues.”

“I remember during the [2007 Iraq troop] surge sitting with Ambassador Ryan Crocker and [Gen.] David Petraeus and saying, ‘Wouldn’t it be a shame if Soleimani ran into one of his own EFPs,” Khedery added, using the acronym for Explosively-Formed Projectiles, the Iranian-made bombs that killed dozens and dozens of American troops in Iraq. “But obviously, this was a decision that had to be taken by the president personally because of its implications.”

Under the Barack Obama administration, the assassination of the most famous general in the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps appears not to have been considered seriously.

There was never any manhunt, according to Derek Chollet, assistant secretary of defense from 2012 to 2015. “To my knowledge there was never a decision of ‘We’ve gotta go find this guy and get him.’”

Nobody could begin to be sure what would come next if Soleimani were killed, and no scenario looked good. And in those days the priority was stopping Iran from developing a nuclear weapon without having to go to war. The murder of Soleimani could have scuttled the negotiations.

The calculus was a fairly simple one, says Chollet: “Do the potential risks of taking an action like this outweigh the gain of taking him off the battlefield?” The answer was yes.

According to Patricia Ravalgi, who served as a civilian analyst at U.S. Central Command from 2008 to 2019, concerns at the operational level went beyond declined opportunities to terminate Soleimani. There was often the worry among military planners and Washington policymakers that with Iranian-backed militias and American troops operating in close proximity in Iraq, especially during the campaigns against the so-called Islamic State, Soleimani would be in the wrong place at the wrong time, get killed by accident, “and all hell would break loose.”

“There was even wishful thinking that Soleimani would stay out of Iraq more, to keep such an accident from occurring,” says Ravalgi.

But why didn’t the Israelis target Soleimani?

According to Soleimani, in an interview given just three months ago, they did.

Speaking to Iranian television last year, the head of the élite Quds Force of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps claimed that Israeli aircraft targeted him and Lebanese Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah in 2006, while Soleimani commanded forces in Beirut during the Second Lebanon War.

“Israeli spy planes were constantly flying overhead,” he said as he began his war story.

Hezbollah, an Iranian backed militia, had its situation room in the heart of Dahiyeh, a Beirut neighborhood, and the Israelis were “watching every movement,” Soleimani said.

Then late one night, he and Imad Mughniyeh, Hezbollah’s most notorious terrorist operative, decided to remove Nasrallah to safety in a separate building. Shortly after their arrival, two Israeli bombardments struck nearby, he said.

“We felt that these two bombings were about to be followed by a third one… so we decided to get out of that building. We didn’t have a car, and there was complete silence, just the Israeli régime planes overflying Dahiyeh,” he recalled.

Soleimani said he hid under a tree with Nasrallah from what appeared to be heat-seeking drones while Mughniyeh went in search of a car. Afraid the car was also being tracked, they eventually switched cars in an underground garage, supposedly confounding the Israelis.

Mughniyeh’s luck did not last long. He was blown up in Damascus in 2008 in an operation later attributed jointly to the CIA and Israel’s Mossad.

An Israeli military officer with knowledge of Israel’s Iran preparedness told The Daily Beast that when the Americans took out Soleimani this week, “It wasn’t a surprise, not really.”

The officer, who spoke without attribution because he was not authorized to speak with the media, said there had been previous Israeli and American efforts to eliminate Soleimani, though it wasn’t clear to what extent the plans had advanced.

The Obama administration “asked us not to proceed,” he said. “It was clear the implications could be much greater than a localized war, the repercussions could affect the whole world.”

This time around, “We’re not involved in the American operation,” said the Israeli officer. “But the Iranians always put us together, the big Satan and the little Satan. You see people on the streets screaming death to America and death to Israel. Could we potentially get hit? Of course. We are secondary, seen as a proxy for the United States.”

In Trump’s remarks from his Mar-a-Lago resort on Friday, he claimed, “We took action last night to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war.”

But as his predecessors understood well, the decision to assassinate Soleimani has opened the door into the unknown and the unknowable.

“We need de-escalation,” one anxious Iraqi official told The Daily Beast, “and this is the mother of all escalations.”

Bron: The Daily Beast

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:51 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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IgorZhdanovRT twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 16:15:43 #BREAKING If this is indeed so, that would mean the U.S. bombed a man who was acting in the capacity of a diplomatic envoy. This is a big, big, BIG no-no according to the international law. #Iraq #Suleimani #Suleymani #Iran https://t.co/Bysl3ChqzL reageer retweet

Als dit waar is, heeft de VS hier dus al een oorlogsmisdaad begaan. Cool...

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“I received a phone call from @realDonaldTrump when the embassy protests ended thanking the government efforts and asked Iraq to play the mediator's role between US and Iran” Iraqi PM said.

“But at the same time American helicopters and drones were flying without the approval of Iraq, and we refused the request of bringing more soldiers to US embassy and bases” iraqi PM said.

“I was supposed to meet Soleimani at the morning the day he was killed, he came to deliver me a message from Iran responding to the message we delivered from Saudi to Iran” Iraqi PM said.

Bron: Mustafa Salim

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:55 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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Ze zitten daar maar met een paar duizend man. Als ze daar met alle geweld willen blijven is dat nogal magertjes.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:52 schreef mcmlxiv het volgende:

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Der zitten nog maar 5000 VS soldaten daar op dit moment geloof ik. Misschien wil Iran wel even helpen om die op een vliegtuig naar huis te zetten?

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 09:33 schreef Bocaj het volgende:
Republikeinse Senator wil start afzettingsprocedure versnellen: ‘We gaan niet toestaan dat Pelosi de regels gebruikt voor eigen gewin’.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6119873842001#sp=show-clips

Zal tijd worden!

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 09:33 schreef Bocaj het volgende:
Republikeinse Senator wil start afzettingsprocedure versnellen: ‘We gaan niet toestaan dat Pelosi de regels gebruikt voor eigen gewin’.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6119873842001#sp=show-clips

Zal tijd worden!

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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) warned in a tweet that "a war without a Congressional declaration is a recipe for feckless intermittent eruptions of violence" and that "our young men and women in the armed services deserve better.”

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 09:45 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
Deze hele kwestie onderstreept nog maar eens dat het extreem risicovol is om een incompetente, ongeletterde idioot als president te hebben. We hoeven weliswaar niet rouwig te zijn om de dood van Soleimani - naar ik begrijp is die man een pure verschrikking - maar dat betekent niet dat een verstandige zet was om hem om te leggen.

Het lijkt er bovendien op dat Trump impulsief heeft gehandeld, zonder stil te staan bij de consequenties van deze actie. Hoe je het ook wendt of keert (of je het nou wel of niet eens bent met deze actie): het is onwenselijk om een wereldleider te hebben die zich laat leiden door impulsief gedrag.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 10:32 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Duidelijk genoeg.

De soldaten in die regio komen in direct gevaar.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 10:41 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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I’m going to be the most unpredictable president in US history.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 10:49 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
Rand Paul ! Die valt op geen enkele manier serieus te nemen.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 10:15 schreef VoMy het volgende:
Maar daar horen we je natuurlijk niet over, want dat is niet een gedachte die je rechtstreeks van foxnews kan kopiëren.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 10:46 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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De man heeft altijd stoere praat, maar puntje bij paaltje komt bukt hij toch wel voor de Oranje Gezondene om zich droog anaal in zijn opengesperde aars te laten nemen.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 12:01 schreef Vader_Aardbei het volgende:

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Leuk om te zien dat het niveau hier in het Amerikaanse Politiek-topic nog altijd even hoog is. Echt jongens, jullie mogen trots zijn.

Het wordt echt lachen als die man straks herkozen wordt.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 12:05 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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We passen ons aan jouw niveau aan.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 08:30 schreef DustPuppy het volgende:

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AndrewBritani twitterde op zondag 05-01-2020 om 15:02:21 BREAKING:It's official.PM, Adil Abdel Mahdi asks the withdrawal of all US forces from Iraq and suspend deals. reageer retweet

Lekker vlot iig.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 12:01 schreef Vader_Aardbei het volgende:

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Het wordt echt lachen als die man straks herkozen wordt.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 12:47 schreef Stefanovich het volgende:
Vrij bizar wat er zich allemaal afspeelt. Een totaal debiel die aan de knoppen van de wereldeconomie, -politiek en -veiligheid draait. En dan zijn er nog steeds trump-fans hier misschien is dat nog wel het meest bizarre.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 12:33 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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die kans is wel heel groot

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 13:00 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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Die kans is aanwezig als de democratische kiezers thuisblijven. maar ik kan me voorstellen dat wanneer ze allemaal naar de stembus gaan (en hier niet in gehinderd worden) Trump NIET wordt herkozen. De republikeinen komen getalsmatig stemmen te kort.

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Op maandag 6 januari 2020 13:03 schreef Tarado het volgende:

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dat was bij de vorige verkiezingen ook zo