[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #673: A Confederacy of Dunces

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 11:08 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

Heel die Muh Russia samenzweringstheorie waar de leugen op dagelijkse basis werd herhaald dat de president heeft samengespannen met de Russen.

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 12:22 schreef AnneX het volgende:
Die Pompeo had toch een aardig cv.? Hád

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 12:47 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Nu ineens niet meer?

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 11:08 schreef Chivaz het volgende:
“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth".

Gelijk heb je, het is een trucje van de media waar velen ook in dit topic zijn ingetrapt.

Charlottesville met zijn very fine people comment.
Covington debacle waar nog steeds een hoop mensen denken dat die kinderen racistisch bezig waren.
Heel die Muh Russia samenzweringstheorie waar de leugen op dagelijkse basis werd herhaald dat de president heeft samengespannen met de Russen.
En dan het meest recente Schiff die een verhaaltje verzint en dat verhaal word tot in den treure herhaalt door de media.

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jeremyherb twitterde op dinsdag 15-10-2019 om 15:46:04 George Kent arrives on Capitol Hill with a bowtie and vest https://t.co/nk5YK8Rw8N reageer retweet

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In an email from March 27, Kent flagged to his colleagues a "totally manufactured/fake list of untouchables." Then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko had claimed Yovanovitch had given him such a "do not prosecute" list -- a claim the State Department denied and he later walked back. It was nonetheless seized upon by some in conservative media and compounded Rudy Giuliani's campaign against Yovanovtich.

In his email, Kent noted that "one key sign of it being fake is that most of the names are misspelled in English."

"This list appears to be an effort by Lutsenko to inoculate himself for why he did not pursue corrupt Poroshenko associates and political allies -- to claim that the US told him not to," Kent wrote, referencing the former President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko. "Complete poppycock."

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A senior House Democrat has asked the Transportation Department's internal watchdog to investigate whether Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao showed undue favoritism to Kentucky constituents of her husband, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

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Op maandag 14 oktober 2019 21:31 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Trump lijkt ook niet te snappen dat de Amerikanen hun positie als wereldmacht voor een groot deel te danken hebben aan de NAVO.

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 17:40 schreef Vader_Aardbei het volgende:

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Hahahahaha Dit meen je serieus?

Amerika stort vooral geld aan de NAVO. Dat leger hebben ze zelf getraind, in de technologieen zelf geinvesteerd... maar ja, was allemaal niet mogelijk zonder het bondgenootschap met supet nuttige landen als Nederland.

Michael Moore had ooit een mooie conpilatie over de bijdrage van "the coalition of the willing". Spoiler: de NAVO landen kwamen er niet rooskleurig uit.

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 18:13 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:

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Vrees dat je het niet helemaal begrijpt. Het zijn van een wereldmacht gaat verder dan spierballenvertoon. Soft power is het sterkste wapen van een wereldmacht en die kan bij uitstek via de NAVO worden uitgeoefend.

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 16:47 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
Vandaag is George Kent aan de beurt om zijn zegje te doen.

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jeremyherb twitterde op dinsdag 15-10-2019 om 15:46:04 George Kent arrives on Capitol Hill with a bowtie and vest https://t.co/nk5YK8Rw8N reageer retweet

Another career diplomat caught in the Ukraine scandal speaking to impeachment probe Tuesday
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mkraju twitterde op dinsdag 15-10-2019 om 20:02:53 Dems say that George Kent has backed up testimony from Fiona Hill - and say he’s backing up the whistleblower complaint. “Every witness has provided further backup for the initial story that was provided by the whistleblower,” Malinowski told us, declining to get in specifics reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 21:13 schreef Szura het volgende:
Peter Navarro verzon een alter ego en gebruikte diens verzonnen quotes in z'n boeken

https://www.chronicle.com(...)ontentlist_hp_latest

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A federal appeals court panel has unanimously thrown out a lawsuit accusing President Donald Trump of violating the Constitution by continuing to do business with foreign and state governments while serving as president.

The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that the State of Maryland and the District of Columbia — who joined together to file the suit against Trump in 2017 — lacked legal standing to object to his alleged violations of the Constitution’s clauses prohibiting receipt of so-called “emoluments” while in office.

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https://www.politico.com/(...)ents-lawsuit-1405767

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nytimes twitterde op dinsdag 15-10-2019 om 23:59:08 Breaking News: Vice President Mike Pence refused to turn over documents related to the House impeachment inquiry against President Trump, defying a subpoena https://t.co/Vi8ZM1Fq7S reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 15 oktober 2019 23:53 schreef AnneX het volgende:
Putin invited Erdogan for a working visit in coming days. Erdogan accepted it

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CNBC twitterde op woensdag 16-10-2019 om 00:42:37 House Democrats will not hold a vote authorizing impeachment probe, which White House sought https://t.co/lahL79Y6Bk reageer retweet

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Giuliani pressed Trump to eject Muslim cleric from U.S., a top priority of Turkish president, former officials say

Rudolph W. Giuliani privately urged President Trump in 2017 to extradite a Turkish cleric living in exile in the United States, a top priority of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, according to multiple former administration officials familiar with the discussions.

Giuliani, a Trump ally who later became the president’s personal attorney, repeatedly argued to Trump that the U.S. government should eject Fethullah Gulen from the country, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition on anonymity to describe private conversations.
Turkey has demanded that the United States turn over Gulen, a permanent U.S. resident who lives in Pennsylvania, to stand trial on charges of plotting a 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan. Gulen has denied involvement in the plot.

Giuliani is now under scrutiny for his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate Trump’s political rivals. His earlier attempts to persuade the president to turn over the Turkish cleric represent another instance in which he appears to have been pushing a shadow foreign policy from his perch outside government.

The former New York mayor brought up Gulen so frequently with Trump during visits to the White House that one former official described the subject as Giuliani’s “hobby horse.” He was so focused on the issue — “it was all Gulen,” recalled a second former official — that White House aides worried that Giuliani was making the case on behalf of the Turkish government, former officials said.

“We’re not going to arrest [Gulen] to do a solid for Erdogan,” the second official said, describing the internal thinking.

However, Trump appeared receptive to the idea, pressing his advisers about Gulen’s status, the people said.

One former senior administration official recalled that Trump asked frequently about why Gulen couldn’t be turned over to Turkey, referring to Erdogan as “my friend.”

Administration officials were overwhelmingly opposed to the idea and told the president that the move could violate the legal process and damage him politically.

White House officials did not respond to requests for comment.

It’s unclear why Giuliani was championing a cause of such high importance to Erdogan — one the Turkish president personally raised with both the Obama administration and Trump. In 2017, Giuliani unsuccessfully pressed then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help on another matter important to Erdogan: helping stop the U.S. prosecution of a Turkish Iranian trader, The Washington Post reported last week.

Giuliani is not registered as a foreign lobbyist, as he would be required to do if he were being paid to lobby the U.S. government on a policy matter for a foreign interest.

Giuliani told The Post in a phone interview late Monday that he never represented Turkey and so he does not need to register as a foreign lobbyist.

In a text exchange Tuesday afternoon, he declined to discuss whether he advocated for Gulen’s extradition, writing: “can’t comment on it that would be complete attorney client privilege but sounds wacky.”

When told that multiple people described the conversations to The Post, Giuliani responded “Bull,” and then liked the question with a thumbs-up emoji.

He did not return phone messages or respond to follow-up questions, except to add in a text that he “will not participate in an illegitimate, unconstitutional, and baseless ‘impeachment inquiry.’ ”

Federal investigators are examining Giuliani’s business dealings with two former associates who were arrested last week on campaign finance charges. A federal grand jury in New York has issued a subpoena to former GOP congressman Pete Sessions of Texas seeking records and other information on his interactions with Giuliani and his two associates. Giuliani has denied any wrongdoing.

In December, Trump told Erdogan his administration would take a look at Turkey’s extradition request, the White House said at the time. In January, a U.S. delegation met with Turkish officials to discuss the request, according to Turkish state media.

Giuliani’s conversations with Trump about Gulen came on the heels of a similar effort by Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, and his then-associates to promote negative views of Gulen during the 2016 campaign and the presidential transition. “We should not provide him safe haven,” Flynn wrote in a November 2016 opinion piece.

Flynn admitted in December 2017 to lying about his contacts with the Russian ambassador and making false statements about work his consulting business did for Turkey. He has since argued in court that he is the victim of a government effort to smear him, although he has not withdrawn his guilty plea.

Reid Weingarten, an attorney for Gulen, said that he would find it disturbing if Giuliani was pressing for the cleric’s return to Turkey on the heels of Flynn’s efforts.

“We have argued aggressively and I thought persuasively to both the Obama and Trump Justice Departments that the allegations against Gulen are false and that any effort to extradite him would fail legally and factually and would be an embarrassment to the United States,” he said in a statement. “After Gen. Flynn’s efforts on behalf of Turkey on this subject were exposed it is hard to believe Giuliani would follow suit.”

Giuliani has had a wide range of foreign clients even as he serves as the president’s personal attorney. In interviews in recent months, Giuliani has acknowledged working with clients in Romania, Brazil, Bahrain, Colombia and Ukraine. He has represented an Iranian dissident group, once so controversial it was placed on the State Department list of terrorist organizations.

Giuliani has said that he does not need to register with the Justice Department for his overseas clients because he does not lobby U.S. officials on their behalf.

“I don’t represent foreign government in front of the U.S. government,” he told The Post earlier this year. “I’ve never registered to lobby.”

However, senior administration officials were so concerned that Giuliani might have been paid to push Turkey’s interests that, at one point in 2017, they confronted him and asked him not to bring up Turkish issues when he met with the president, according to a person familiar with the conversation.

When asked via text if he recalled the conversation, Giuliani responded by liking the question with a thumbs-up emoji.

Lobbying experts said that Giuliani’s private conversations with Trump about policy matters — including his push for Gulen’s extradition — could violate lobbying rules if he were pressing the matters on behalf of a foreign client.

In the case of the cleric, “the principal beneficiary of his work would be the Turkish government,” said Joshua Rosenstein, a Washington lawyer who specializes in foreign lobbying rules.

The conversations Giuliani reportedly had with Trump about Gulen in 2017 came the same year he was representing Reza Zarrab, a Turkish Iranian accused of corruption.

The trader held embarrassing and politically damaging information about Erdogan and other top Turkish officials in his government, it was later revealed in federal court when Zarrab pleaded guilty to orchestrating a multibillion-dollar conspiracy to evade U.S. sanctions against Iran.

Erdogan had repeatedly lobbied Trump to release Zarrab, both in personal meetings and calls in the spring and summer of 2017, according to multiple administration officials and Erdogan himself. The Turkish president claimed publicly that Zarrab, charged in a conspiracy to violate U.S. sanctions against Iran, was a political “hostage” of American law enforcement.

Giuliani joined Zarrab’s legal team in March 2017 and flew to Turkey in late February to meet with Erdogan to discuss a possible “state-to-state resolution in this case,” according to court filings in the Zarrab case.

In affidavits filed in federal court, Giuliani said that “at no time” he had “been involved in the representation of the Republic of Turkey” or acted as the country’s agent.

He acknowledged that his law firm did work for the Turkish government but said he was walled off from such discussions.

“Neither [my associate] nor I represent the interests of Turkey or the United States,” Giuliani said in a May 2017 affidavit.

However, lobbying experts said that his conversations with Trump and Tillerson to change U.S. policy on behalf of Zarrab, a foreign client, raised questions about why he did not register as a foreign lobbyist.

“It seems Giuliani was acting on behalf of a foreign principal and representing those interests before a U.S. government official, which can trigger the registration requirement,” said Matthew Sanderson, a Washington attorney who focuses on foreign lobbying registration.

Giuliani maintained in an interview Monday that such registration was unnecessary.

“I have never lobbied for a foreign government,” Giuliani said. He added that Zarrab was his client, not the Turkish government. “I was working for him,” not Turkey, Giuliani said. (Under foreign lobbying rules, registration is required not only for people representing foreign governments, but those representing other foreign interests on political matters in the United States.)

Complaints about his foreign clients are “diversions by Democrats hoping to shoot the messenger,” Giuliani said earlier this month.

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Harry Dunn parents: Trump shocked us by revealing Sacoolas was in next room

Charlotte Charles says president dropped ‘bombshell’ as grieving parents visited White House

Charlotte Charles, mother of Harry Dunn, arrives at Union Station in Washington on Tuesday.
David Smith in Washington
British parents grieving their teenage son have told how, during a visit to the White House on Tuesday, Donald Trump dropped the “bombshell” that the woman who allegedly killed him in a road crash was waiting for them in an adjoining room.

Charlotte Charles and Tim Dunn turned down the rushed offer to meet Anne Sacoolas, who is married to a US diplomat, describing it as “not appropriate” with no mediators or therapists present.

Their son, Harry Dunn, 19, died in August in a head-on collision between his motorcycle and a car being driven on the wrong side of the road, according to Northamptonshire police in the UK. Sacoolas was allegedly driving the car and, claiming diplomatic immunity, flew back to the US.

Dunn’s parents travelled to New York this week to urge Sacoolas to return and engage with a police investigation. They were surprised to receive an abrupt invitation to the White House in Washington on Tuesday – and even more taken aback by the offer that came without prior warning from Trump, a former reality TV host.

“The bombshell was dropped soon after we walked in the room: Anne Sacoolas was in the building and was willing to meet with us,” Charles told reporters after the meeting, which lasted 10 to 15 minutes. “We made it very clear that, as we’ve said all along, we will meet with her and we would still love to meet with her but it has to be on our terms and on UK soil.”

She continued: “We were a bit shocked but it didn’t really make any difference to us, to be perfectly honest. She could have been two miles away; it’s just she was in the room next door. Our grief’s been locked in for several weeks. It’s not appropriate to meet her without therapists and mediators for us as a family but also for her. How can it be comfortable for her to be thrown into a situation like that without therapists and mediators?”

Asked if they regarded the plan as a “stunt”, Dunn hesitated before replying: “No, I don’t think so. I would think maybe they were trying to force it on to us but I still think the president was sincere at the end when he spoke to Charlotte.”

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Op woensdag 16 oktober 2019 04:32 schreef Szura het volgende:

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Op woensdag 16 oktober 2019 07:54 schreef vipergts het volgende:

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Ben ik nu de enige die het raar vind om naar de VS te vliegen om Trump te ontmoeten als je kind is doorgereden.

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Op woensdag 16 oktober 2019 05:29 schreef skysherrif het volgende:
AOC en Ilhan Omar gaan Sanders endorsen, dat is wel heel groot voor zijn campaign.

Warren na dit debat wel heel duidelijk de frontrunner (en niet meer Biden)

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Op woensdag 16 oktober 2019 05:29 schreef skysherrif het volgende:
AOC en Ilhan Omar gaan Sanders endorsen, dat is wel heel groot voor zijn campaign.

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AmbassadorRice twitterde op zondag 13-10-2019 om 20:21:22 WTF?? This blood is on Trump’s hands alone but the shame is shared by all decent Americans. https://t.co/w3b3t5ncjN reageer retweet