Dat is allemaal heel schattig en Hollywood, maar in tegenstelling tot in de facto dictatoriale systemen als in Rusland worden Duitsland of de VS niet geregeerd per decreet door de grote leider.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 15:15 schreef Nintex het volgende:
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In de marges van dit soort bijeenkomsten gebeurd altijd veel meer dan bij de gesprekken zelf.
Voorgaande jaren was er een hevig diplomatiek gesteggel achter de schermen over Syrie en Oekraine om het hele feest om. Er worden juist wel knopen doorgehakt tijdens de diners, onderonsjes en persoonlijke gesprekken. Wereldleider zijn is een eenzaam bestaan, maar weinig mensen snappen dat, logisch dat dat mensen dichter bij elkaar brengt.
In de Koude oorlog zijn we door het oog van de naald gegaan, omdat de Amerikaanse president dacht te weten in welke moeilijke situatie zijn Russische ambtsgenoot zat. Deze erkenning van elkaar is heel belangrijk als het gaat om deals maken en de vrede bewaken.
Het kan ook gruwelijk fout gaan, zoals in Vietnam. Toen de Amerikanen dachten dat ze tegen het wereldwijde communisme vochten, maar de Vietcong de Amerikanen beschouwden als nieuwe bezetters, zoals de Fransen voor hen.
Kijk ook 'The Fog of War' de docu over Robert McNamara die uitgebreid over dit onderwerp spreekt de Secdef tijdens de Vietnam oorlog.
Ik bedoel ook meer dat ik het wat lachwekkend vind dat zelfs serieuze media hier flink wat aandacht aan besteden en er een groot punt van maken. Sodemieter lekker op met je RTL Boulevard nieuws en houdt het bij de inhoud, zou ik zeggen. Trump doet akward handje schudden met X, Macron doet akward handje schudden met Trump, enzovoort. Lekker relevant.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 14:48 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:
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Ik heb het dan ook niet per sé over een internationale deal tussen beide landen die hier besproken wordt, ik vind het gewoon grappig om te zien dat Donald bij iedere internationale partner die Amerika heeft probeert om de arm uit de kom te rukken omdat hij dat in Intimidatie voor Beginners gelezen heeft, en op het moment dat dan eindelijk de eerste handdruk met Poetin komt, over wiens regering hij een dag eerder nog had gezegd dat ze hebben geprobeerd de verkiezingen te beïnvloeden, hij opeens over zijn rug gaat wrijven.
Maar je hebt gelijk, op het gebied van beleidsmatige kwesties zal de wijze van handen drukken weinig uithalen.
Relevant niet, grappig wel. Het hoeft in dit topic toch niet altijd 100% serieus te zijn met alleenmaar longreads?quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 15:53 schreef Monolith het volgende:
Trump doet akward handje schudden met X, Macron doet akward handje schudden met Trump, enzovoort. Lekker relevant.
twitter:RickyJersey twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 15:57:20Our President is Savage. #absolutely #savage #G20Summit #payforwall #mexico #trump https://t.co/5PY3OogzMP reageer retweet
Troll levels at maximumtwitter:LaPajamasNC twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 15:56:13And this was a weird lil thing where shitgibbon asked T-May to get Erdogan's attention so he could give him a thumb… https://t.co/Bf8LNd0PNw reageer retweet
Blijft bijzonder dat Trump zich richting despoten en onderdrukkers wel nederig en poeslief op kan stellen, maar dat hij grote moeite heeft om normaal te doen tegen zijn westerse bondgenoten.twitter:shaunwalker7 twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:12:33Trump to Putin: We look forward to a lot of very positive things happening for Russia and the United States...It’s an honour to be with you reageer retweet
Lees de twee zinnen ervoor ook even, dan zie je dat ik het niet over dit topic heb.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 16:01 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
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Relevant niet, grappig wel. Het hoeft in dit topic toch niet altijd 100% serieus te zijn met alleenmaar longreads?
quote:President Donald Trump won office on promises to shake up how Washington works, and so far that’s been most apparent in his own West Wing, where his top advisers have built up personal staffs to support their own agendas instead of using a traditional White House policy and messaging operation.
Chief strategist Steve Bannon has two special assistants, a deputy assistant, an executive assistant and a body man working in his “war room” — plus his external press hand, something his predecessors under President Barack Obama, David Axelrod and David Plouffe, never had while working in the White House.
Senior adviser Jared Kushner has two staffers working directly below him, as well as another five in the newly created Office of American Innovation who are focused on his portfolio of White House issues. Included in that mix is a communications adviser, Josh Raffel, a former Hollywood PR exec who previously repped Kushner’s real estate work.
“It is a new development for a White House staffer to have their own individual PR people,” said Ari Fleischer, who served as White House press secretary during George W. Bush’s first term.
Fleischer could not recall any staffers in the Bush White House having their own media contact aside from Karl Rove, who retained former Justice Department spokesman Mark Corallo to handle inquiries about his involvement in the Valerie Plame leak investigation. Corallo is currently representing Trump's legal team on matters relating to the Russia investigation.
The expansion of staff assigned to individual senior advisers has helped the people closest to Trump build up their own brands and policy portfolios — such as Kushner’s focus on technology and Middle East peace — but also reinforces factionalism within the West Wing. The aides help bolster competing camps when they’re squaring off to influence the president on everything from climate change to trade and health care.
Current and past White House aides say such an arrangement also risks distracting from a unified Trump agenda.
“The person it hurts is Donald Trump,” said Tommy Vietor, a former National Security Council spokesman under Obama. “Their aides aren’t working to push his agenda forward; instead, they’re doing the bidding of their bosses.”
In past White Houses, staff members have been assigned to bodies like the National Security Council or the Domestic Policy Council, while top-ranked aides to the president — assistants, deputy assistants, or special assistants to the president — made do with relatively few direct subordinates.
Obama’s senior adviser Valerie Jarrett was criticized by fellow staffers in 2008 for designating her aide Michael Strautmanis, who helped oversee the office of public engagement and intergovernmental affairs, as a “chief of staff” — a title typically reserved for the president’s top deputy or for those running the established offices within the West Wing.
Trump’s White House has taken that approach to a new level.
Senior counselor Kellyanne Conway, whose portfolio spans opioids, veterans issues and communications, has a chief of staff, Renee Hudson, who manages one person below her. Hudson, who has the title of deputy assistant to the president, was a chief of staff to Rep. Todd Rokita (R-Ind.) and is considered a strong policy aide to Conway, taking the lead on many of her issues, including opioid abuse and military spouse employment. Even more critically, she fills in for Conway at senior meetings when she’s traveling around the country advocating for Trump’s agenda at rallies.
Ivanka Trump also has a chief of staff, Julie Radford, who holds the title of special assistant to the president and manages only a single person below her.
As Obama’s chief strategist, Axelrod had two special assistants and an executive assistant underneath him. Plouffe had a deputy senior adviser and two special assistants when he took over the role — half as many dedicated staffers as Bannon or Kushner have.
The extensive personal offices also illustrate the distrust among top West Wing officials in the White House communications shop, which is stocked with loyalists to chief of staff Reince Priebus who used to work with him at the Republican National Committee.
“There is no trust in the current structure to defend everyone equally,” said one White House official.
The White House defended the arrangement, with some officials saying the organizational chart is designed to let each senior aide manage their own policy portfolios from top to bottom. They also argued it helps advance the priorities of the president, who is known for delegating.
“It’s a great thing that staffers are so engaged at such a high level and have created very ambitious portfolios within the president’s agenda,” said deputy White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. “We are shaking things up, and it's a great thing for which the results will ultimately speak for themselves.”
Most noticeable is the proliferation of spokespeople operating parallel to the White House press office.
That includes Raffel, a commissioned officer with a senior title and salary who sits in on the White House’s daily communications meetings and routinely handles queries concerning administration initiatives in Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s portfolios.
He's worked to promote initiatives from the Office of American Innovation, like a recent tech CEO event, and also focuses on issues like Middle East peace, one of Kushner’s top priorities, and paid leave, a signature issue for Ivanka Trump. Raffel previously represented Kushner Cos. when he worked at Hiltzik Strategies, a New York firm.
Bannon relies on an outside press person, former Breitbart spokeswoman Alexandra Preate, who formerly represented Trump donor and Breitbart backer Rebekah Mercer. But her job is primarily to keep Bannon’s name out of the press, to avoid distracting from Trump’s agenda, according to two White House officials.
Kushner's and Bannon’s respective PR hands are the first to respond to inquiries from reporters, rather than the White House communications shop overseen by press secretary Sean Spicer — and often respond separately on issues where Trump’s advisers disagree.
The White House communications shop is more likely to respond on the record to an inquiry about Priebus than anyone else, in part because many people who work there worked for Priebus at the RNC, including Spicer and deputy press secretary Lindsay Walters.
“He brought his own PR firm inside with him,” said the White House official.
The Trump White House still has about 100 fewer staffers than the Obama administration had during its first and final years in office, with 377 staffers. First lady Melania Trump has 19 fewer staffers working for her than Michelle Obama did in 2009. And only 17 Trump staffers make the top White House salary of $179,700 per year, compared to 20 in Obama’s first year.
While the proliferation of chiefs of staff and PR people appears to naturally reflect Trump’s own hyper awareness of brand development, former White House officials still say it’s taking the West Wing in a whole new direction.
“They’re redesigning how the White House staffs,” said Betsy Myers, former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton.
http://www.politico.com/s(...)staff-kushner-240244
Ja hoor, Trump, any time now.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 16:33 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Trump says Mexico should 'absolutely' pay for border wall
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twitter:ncilla twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:50:09Classic Trump trick https://t.co/SjMErYMOac reageer retweet
Trouwens niet gedacht dat links piraatje Ancilla de alt-lite zou volgen.twitter:Cernovich twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:48:41If they weren't before, they are now. https://t.co/DJyABKoh39 reageer retweet
twitter:johnpodesta twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:59:352/ Pulled in for a pit stop in E. Fairmont W. Va. to see that our whack job POTUS @realDonaldTrump is tweeting about me at the G20. reageer retweet
Wat een fotoquote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 17:17 schreef Nintex het volgende:
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"Donald the trolling has got to stop, you will soon create a rift in timespace if you can't keep yourself under control"
Niemand in Europa geeft ene fuck om Podesta. Sterker, het gros heeft geen flauw idee wie die hele vent is.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 17:04 schreef Nintex het volgende:
Ook NL politici beginnen de Trump-game door te krijgentwitter:ncilla twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:50:09Classic Trump trick https://t.co/SjMErYMOac reageer retweet
Trouwens niet gedacht dat links piraatje Ancilla de alt-lite zou volgen.twitter:Cernovich twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:48:41If they weren't before, they are now. https://t.co/DJyABKoh39 reageer retweet
Podesta triggered, troll succesfultwitter:johnpodesta twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:59:352/ Pulled in for a pit stop in E. Fairmont W. Va. to see that our whack job POTUS @realDonaldTrump is tweeting about me at the G20. reageer retweet
twitter:HallieJackson twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 17:31:47An hour and 25 minutes after their meeting began, Presidents Trump and Putin are *still* talking, per pool. Had been sched. for abt 30 mins. reageer retweet
Die Poetin is Trump flink aan het inpakken. Gehaaide ex-KGB'er versus narcistisch rijkeluiskindje. Alsof Kasparov schaakt tegen een kind met het syndroom van down.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 17:37 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
twitter:HallieJackson twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 17:31:47An hour and 25 minutes after their meeting began, Presidents Trump and Putin are *still* talking, per pool. Had been sched. for abt 30 mins. reageer retweet
En als ik het goed heb begrepen missen ze hierdoor ook allebei een babbel over climate change.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 17:39 schreef KoosVogels het volgende:
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Die Poetin is Trump flink aan het inpakken. Gehaaide ex-KGB'er versus narcistisch rijkeluiskindje. Alsof Kasparov schaakt tegen een kind met het syndroom van down.
Ja, alsof ook maar een van die twee daar enige interesse in heeft.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 17:40 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
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En als ik het goed heb begrepen missen ze hierdoor ook allebei een babbel over climate change.
Trump en Poetin bespreken strategie Amerikaanse verkiezingen 2020quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 17:40 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
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En als ik het goed heb begrepen missen ze hierdoor ook allebei een babbel over climate change.
twitter:RepAdamSchiff twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 16:48:12Yes, I'm sure that's the big talk at G20. Not climate change or trade, but why didn't John Podesta give a server th… https://t.co/mNI0aBVd8V reageer retweet
twitter:JenniferJJacobs twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 18:28:53What was planned as a 30-minute Trump-Putin meeting has stretched past 130 minutes. Started about 10:10 a.m. easte… https://t.co/b5yhh4Wqln reageer retweet
Maar dat doet hij wel vaker, volgens mij ook met Trudeau en Merkel.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 19:03 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
twitter:JenniferJJacobs twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 18:28:53What was planned as a 30-minute Trump-Putin meeting has stretched past 130 minutes. Started about 10:10 a.m. easte… https://t.co/b5yhh4Wqln reageer retweet
Trump of Putin?quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 19:05 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:
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Maar dat doet hij wel vaker, volgens mij ook met Trudeau en Merkel.
Wat een langdradig gelul over niks.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 18:29 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Goed stuk over dat er waarschijnlijk mensen bewust nep documenten zit te verspreiden onder nieuws organisaties... de timing van dit specifieke document is ook wel zeer opvallend:
"Thank you mr. President, and by the way we're nuking North Korea next week. It has be done, very dangerous."quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 19:12 schreef SureD1 het volgende:
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Trump, hij is nogal traag van begrip, vraag maar aan Merkel...
twitter:polNewsForever twitterde op donderdag 06-07-2017 om 23:36:35Yesterday, /pol/ had an idea: download the CNN app, give it a 1-Star review, delete the app.Today, it's national… https://t.co/hcHeBPVuAK reageer retweet
twitter:markknoller twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 19:01:32State Dept officials say the Trump/Putin talks ran 2 hr 16mins. nearly four times the 35 mins originally planned. Awaiting briefing. reageer retweet
De app heeft gewoon 4 sterren in de play store.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 19:28 schreef Nintex het volgende:
The trolls are winning on all fronts:[ afbeelding ]twitter:polNewsForever twitterde op donderdag 06-07-2017 om 23:36:35Yesterday, /pol/ had an idea: download the CNN app, give it a 1-Star review, delete the app.Today, it's national… https://t.co/hcHeBPVuAK reageer retweet
Real diplomacy, art of the dealtwitter:markknoller twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 19:01:32State Dept officials say the Trump/Putin talks ran 2 hr 16mins. nearly four times the 35 mins originally planned. Awaiting briefing. reageer retweet
Ja, die stukken van 20-25 minuten zijn idd wat lang.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 19:44 schreef Boze_Appel het volgende:
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Nouja, Maddow is in de regel wel erg langdradig.
Met hun iPhones, rebellen dat ze zijnquote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 19:36 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
CNN Breaking US & World News - Play Store - 3,8 (276802 stemmen)
CNNgo for Android TV - Play Store - 1,4 (18)
CNN for Samsung Galaxy View - 4,6 (46)
CNN Breaking US & World News - Apple Store - 1,1 (5623)
Wist niet dat de CNN app zoveel meer op android gebruikt werd dan op ios of zijn stemmen niet gecorreleerd aan gebruikers?! Vermoedelijk zijn het grootste deel van die >5000 stemmers dus 4chan trolls?
Ik durf te betwijfelen dat hij het boek, wat hij zelf niet heeft geschreven, heeft gelezen.quote:
twitter:RobbieGramer twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 19:59:53My latest: Tillerson taps Russia hawk to be new State Department envoy on Ukraine https://t.co/y6GVt4YxHh reageer retweet
Trump used level 9000 negotiation skills, it was every effective.twitter:MikeDelMoro twitterde op vrijdag 07-07-2017 om 20:00:26Secretary of State Tillerson says of Trump-Putin meeting: "there was such a level of engagement that neither of them wanted to stop." reageer retweet
Zoals je zomaar niet zou verwachten vergt zoiets meer dan twee presidentjes die even de koppen bij elkaar steken en is dit staakt-het-vuren al een tijdje in de maak.quote:HAMBURG, Germany (AP) — The United States and Russia have reached agreement on a cease-fire in southwest Syria, three U.S. officials said Friday as President Donald Trump held his first meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The deal marks a new level of involvement for the Trump administration in trying to resolve Syria’s civil war. Although details about the agreement and how it will be implemented weren’t immediately available, the cease-fire is set to take effect Sunday at noon Damascus time, said the officials, who weren’t authorized to discuss the cease-fire publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Jordan and Israel also are part of the agreement, one of the officials said. The two U.S. allies both share a border with the southern part of Syria and have been concerned about violence from Syria’s civil war spilling over the border.
The deal is separate from an agreement that Russia, Turkey and Iran struck earlier this year to try to establish “de-escalation zones” in Syria where violence would be reduced. The U.S., wary of Iran’s involvement, was not a part of that deal. Follow-up talks this week in Astana, Kazakhstan, failed to reach agreement on how to finalize a cease-fire in those zones.
Previous cease-fires in Syria have collapsed or failed to reduce violence for long, and it was unclear whether this deal would be any better.
Earlier in the week, Syria’s military had said it was halting combat operations in the south of Syria for four days, in advance of a new round of Russian-sponsored talks in Astana. That move covered southern provinces of Daraa, Quneitra and Sweida. Syria’s government briefly extended that unilateral cease-fire, which is now set to expire Saturday — a day before the U.S. and Russian deal would take effect.
The new agreement to be announced Friday will be open-ended, with no set end date, one U.S. official said, describing it as part of broader U.S. discussions with Russia on trying to lower violence in the war-ravaged country. Officials said the U.S. and Russia were still working out the details as Trump and Putin concluded their more than two-hour meeting on Friday.
Implications for Syria aside, the deal marks the biggest diplomatic achievement for the U.S. and Russia since Trump took office. Trump’s administration has approached the notoriously strained relationship by trying to identify a few limited issues on which the countries could make progress, thereby building trust for a broader repair of ties.
For years, the U.S. and Russia have been backing opposing sides in Syria’s war, with Moscow supporting Syrian President Bashar Assad and Washington supporting rebels who have been fighting Assad. Both the U.S. and Russia oppose the Islamic State group in Syria.
The U.S. has been resistant to letting Iran gain influence in Syria — a concern shared by Israel and Jordan, neither of which wants Iranian-aligned troops amassing near their territories. A U.S.-brokered deal could help the Trump administration retain more of a say over who fills the power vacuum left behind as the Islamic State is routed from additional territory in Syria.
Though U.S. and Russian officials had been discussing a potential deal for some time, it didn’t reach fruition until the run-up to Trump’s meeting with Putin on the sidelines of the Group of 20 economic summit in Germany, officials said.
Yet ahead of the meeting — Trump’s first with the Russian leader — Secretary of State Rex Tillerson signaled that Syria’s civil war would be high on the agenda and potentially the most fruitful area for cooperation given the dismal state of relations between the U.S. and Russia overall.
Tillerson said in a statement before departing for Germany that the U.S. remained open to cooperating with Russia through “joint mechanisms” to lower violence in Syria, potentially including no-fly zones.
“If our two countries work together to establish stability on the ground, it will lay a foundation for progress on the settlement of Syria’s political future,” Tillerson said on Wednesday.
The Trump administration has struggled to determine how actively to involve itself in Syria’s civil war, beyond the U.S.-led fight against the Islamic State group there. Although Trump has backed away from the previous U.S. administration’s steadfast demand that Assad leave power, the limited U.S. military forces on the ground in Syria have grown more assertive in recent months, especially as the prospect that IS will soon be defeated has increased the urgency of discussions about Syria’s political future.
In recent weeks, U.S. forces have shot down a Syrian aircraft that got too close to U.S. forces as well drones believed connected to Iranian-backed forces aligned with Assad — another sign of U.S. concern about Tehran’s influence in Syria. Earlier this year, Trump also ordered airstrikes for the first time against Assad’s forces, aiming to punish him for using chemical weapons.
Some of those steps have deepened the rift between the U.S. and Russia over Syria, complicating efforts to work together. Russia, which has bolstered Assad through an aggressive air campaign in recent years, had troops at the Syrian air base when the U.S. struck. And after the U.S. shot down the Syrian plane, Russia warned it would start considering U.S.-led coalition aircraft over Syria as potential targets.
Tensions have been on the rise recently in southern Syria amid a renewed government offensive on the contested province of Daraa where western backed rebels as well as Islamic militants challenge the Syrian government’s control. Iranian-backed Hezbollah fighters have shifted south after the Russian-backed cease-fire that was announced in May and have been getting closer to the border with Jordan, raising concerns in the kingdom.
Israel has also struck Syrian military installations on several occasions in the past few weeks after shells landed into the Israeli-controlled side of the Golan Heights Golan Heights.
https://apnews.com/eaa310ccb6e04e0580759d4ce36e778b
Klopt.quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 20:19 schreef Ulx het volgende:
In dat stuk Syrië vecht men toch ook amper meer?
quote:Op vrijdag 7 juli 2017 20:24 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Wel een prestatie van Trump dan. Misschien kan hij gelijk wat aan de Berlijnse Muur doen nu hij toch in Duitsland is met Poetin.
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