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  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 12:37:32 #251
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Ik vind het wel een slimme zet van hem. Hoe kan 'links' nu tegen zonnepanelen zijn? Als z'n tegenstanders zich dan toch blijven verzetten tegen de muur, zal hij continu aankomen met die zonnepanelen en dat het belachelijk is dat als hij iets voor het milieu doet, zelfs dat niet gesteund wordt door de liberals.
En gaat de Freedom Caucus akkoord met een federaal nutsbedrijf?
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 12:38:33 #252
1212 crew  Mike
Excellent!
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En gaat de Freedom Caucus akkoord met een federaal nutsbedrijf?
Geen idee, maar die zonnepanelen interesseren hem natuurlijk ook niks. Het gaat alleen om beeldvorming.
In some matters there's no reality, only perception. Truth exists, but people have a vested interest in not knowing it.
  donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 12:40:12 #253
267352 Belabor
Why stay? Explore!
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0s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 12:30 schreef Mike het volgende:
Ik vind het wel een slimme zet van hem. Hoe kan 'links' nu tegen zonnepanelen zijn? Als z'n tegenstanders zich dan toch blijven verzetten tegen de muur, zal hij continu aankomen met die zonnepanelen en dat het belachelijk is dat als hij iets voor het milieu doet, zelfs dat niet gesteund wordt door de liberals.
Het is een politieke zet, maar wel zo'n ontzettend doorzichtige zet dat ik niet denk dat het hem iets gaat opleveren.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 12:41:19 #254
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Geen idee, maar die zonnepanelen interesseren hem natuurlijk ook niks. Het gaat alleen om beeldvorming.
Laat hem maar lekker reclame gaan maken voor zonnepanelen bij het Breitbartvolk. Dat zou ik denken.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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Het is inderdaad bizar dat Trumpanzees huilie doen "want Benghazi".
Zit om onduidelijke redenen in de mailinglijst van de GOP en wat ik af en toe voorbij zie komen maakt BNW nog mild.

Vandaag ook weer een mailtje met een video over Obama en zijn zogenaamde "death order" (wat volgens die informatie Trump onmogelijk kan terugdraaien. Verder was Obama natuurlijk weer een onwettige president die ook nog eens een sleeper agent in de overheid heeft geplaatst (de boef!).

Oh en die sleeper agent kan/gaat de komende 12 maanden voor 1.3 miljoen doden zorgen (allemaal boven de 57 trouwens).

Bizar dat die idioten zo in het verleden blijven hangen, maar ja bij gebrek aan echte wapenfeiten van je held is het natuurlijk beter om voormalige tegenstanders maar weer aan te halen

[ Bericht 10% gewijzigd door #ANONIEM op 22-06-2017 12:44:35 ]
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Intel chiefs tell investigators Trump suggested they refute collusion with Russians

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Two of the nation's top intelligence officials told Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team and Senate investigators, in separate meetings last week, that President Donald Trump suggested they say publicly there was no collusion between his campaign and the Russians, according to multiple sources.

Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and National Security Agency Director Adm. Mike Rogers described their interactions with the President about the Russia investigation as odd and uncomfortable, but said they did not believe the President gave them orders to interfere, according to multiple sources familiar with their accounts.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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Minstens twee getuigen zijn nodig om impeachment te starten. Nu zijn er 3: Comey, Coats en Rogers die zeggen dat Trump zich met onderzoeken naar de connectie tussen zijn campagne en de Russen bemoeide. Interessante tijden :)

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"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court."


[ Bericht 37% gewijzigd door cynicus op 22-06-2017 14:57:36 ]
  donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:03:03 #258
65394 Montov
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President Trump in a rally on Wednesday evening said immigrants who enter the United States should not be eligible for welfare benefits for five years, though such a law has already existed for 20 years.

http://thehill.com/homene(...)n-enacted-since-1996
Under budget and ahead of schedule.
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  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:05:20 #259
3928 Ulx
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Under budget and ahead of schedule.
maar hij zegt het tenminste!
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:13:09 #261
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Heeft hij nou weer een rally?
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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0s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 15:13 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Heeft hij nou weer een rally?
Wat moet hij anders doen met zijn tijd?
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:25:04 #263
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Over dat gehuil van de hypocriete Trumpanzees gesproken.

The American Conservative had een tijdje terug wat te melden over een opvoering van Julius Caesar die toch wel heel erg leek op de president.

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Which brings me to this production. Director Rob Melrose has set his Caesar at our precise historical moment, in Obama’s Washington, D.C. The capital is rocked by “Occupy Rome” protests. His Caesar (the suavely confident Bjorn DuPaty) is a tall, charismatic African-American politician; he doesn’t look or sound much like Obama (he more closely recalls Michael Jordan), but the audience is unquestionably going to read him as an Obama stand-in nonetheless, particularly when his opponents bear a marked resemblance to Eric Cantor (Sid Solomon’s snappy terrier Cassius) and Mitch McConnell (Kevin Orton’s cynical old pol Casca). Even Mark Antony is recognizable as a standard Democratic politician type, Clinton/Gore division.

This could all come off as very cheap and obvious, but it doesn’t for two reasons. First, because the rhetoric of the Tea Party opposition to Obama partakes of an intellectual tradition that self-consciously traces its lineage back to Brutus: republican as well as Republican, a tradition that includes both Jefferson Davis and Patrick Henry. What one thinks of that tradition as a whole, and what one thinks of the people who currently invoke it is another topic – but the people who invoke it do so for a reason. John Wilkes Booth, who had played Brutus, quoted the Roman assassin immediately after murdering the man he saw as the American Caesar. He did not choose his words idly.
Het is dus geen probleem als je een Caesar neerzet die op de president lijkt. Zolang die president maar op Obama lijkt.

http://www.theamericancon(...)bamas-ides-of-march/
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  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:27:47 #264
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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http://www.thesunchronicl(...)af-0f18760c2d7c.html

Een vrouwelijke Caesar in een kittig broekpak. Ook nu waren de Trumpanzees niet te horen.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:28:10 #265
54278 crew  Tijger_m
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0s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 15:13 schreef Ulx het volgende:
Heeft hij nou weer een rally?
Hij voelt zich eenzaam in dat grote enge Witte Huis.
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:34:15 #266
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Hij voelt zich eenzaam in dat grote enge Witte Huis.
Daar moet hij werken. En een applaus is natuurlijk een warm bad.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:43:53 #267
3928 Ulx
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http://www.politico.com/s(...)ion-subpoenas-239811

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The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee said Wednesday that subpoenas could be the next step if the White House doesn’t comply with a Friday deadline to hand over information on any tapes of President Donald Trump's meetings with former FBI Director James Comey.

Rep. Adam Schiff suggested in an interview the intelligence panel could also consider issuing subpoenas to get hold of memos Comey wrote and gave to some colleagues and friends about his interactions with Trump.

“I certainly would hope we'll get a response from the White House by Friday,” Rep. Adam Schiff said in an interview Wednesday, referring to his committee’s deadline to receive the tapes — if any exist, as the president hinted in a tweet last month. “If we don't, then we'll have to determine what the next steps are.”

Asked if next steps could include subpoenas, the California Democrat responded: “Yes, it could.”

Rep. Mike Conaway, the Republican leading the intelligence panel’s investigation into Russia’s meddling in the presidential election, would have to agree to any effort to issue subpoenas, as would House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.).

Conaway said Wednesday he did not know whether the Trump administration would meet the Friday deadline. “I'm not clairvoyant,” the Texas Republican quipped.

Comey’s memos — and possible tapes of his conversations with Trump — have been a source of controversy and speculation on Capitol Hill ever since last month, when The New York Times reported that Comey kept detailed memos of his interactions with the president. That includes a meeting in which Trump allegedly suggested to Comey he should drop the FBI’s investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — a revelation that has led some to accuse the president of obstructing justice.

Shortly before that story published, Trump had suggested the existence of tapes in a tweet, writing: “James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!”

More than a month later, Congress has yet to get its hands on the memos or any tapes, despite requests from several House and Senate Committees. A friend of Comey's has said he turned over copies of the memos to the FBI.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said Tuesday he expects Trump this week to clarify whether such tapes exist.

Conaway and Schiff requested information on any tapes and copies of the memos earlier this month, setting a Friday deadline for the tapes.

The Senate Judiciary and Intelligence Committees are also seeking any tapes and memos.

The Judiciary panel’s top Democrat, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, said Tuesday she did not know yet whether either panel would actually get them.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  Redactie Games donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:48:26 #268
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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Hoe slecht zou het zijn als blijkt dat er geen tapes van die hele meeting zouden bestaan? Ik kan me voorstellen dat Trump het als intimidatietechniek heeft gebruikt zonder na te denken.
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
  donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:51:00 #269
65394 Montov
Dogmaticus Irritantus
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Trump het als intimidatietechniek heeft gebruikt zonder na te denken.
70 jaar Trump samen gevat in 10 woorden. _O_
Géén kloon van tvlxd!
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Hoe slecht zou het zijn als blijkt dat er geen tapes van die hele meeting zouden bestaan? Ik kan me voorstellen dat Trump het als intimidatietechniek heeft gebruikt zonder na te denken.
Tuurlijk was het dat.
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:55:17 #271
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Hoe slecht zou het zijn als blijkt dat er geen tapes van die hele meeting zouden bestaan? Ik kan me voorstellen dat Trump het als intimidatietechniek heeft gebruikt zonder na te denken.
Dan moet Trump maar toegeven dat hij "het als intimidatietechniek heeft gebruikt zonder na te denken."

Ook lachen.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  Redactie Games donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 15:57:38 #272
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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Dan moet Trump maar toegeven dat hij "het als intimidatietechniek heeft gebruikt zonder na te denken."

Ook lachen.
Als psycholoog zijnde ben ik waanzinnig geïnteresseerd hoe hij dit dan zo weet te spinnen dat hem geen blaam treft. De cognitieve dissonantie van narcisten heeft me altijd geïnteresseerd.
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
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Ja maar Obama!!!11!!!
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 15:22:04 By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn't they stop them? reageer retweet
:')_________!
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  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:05:23 #274
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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2s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 15:57 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Ja maar Obama!!!11!!!
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 15:22:04 By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn't they stop them? reageer retweet
:')_________!
Wat een gek.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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2s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 15:57 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Ja maar Obama!!!11!!!
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 15:22:04 By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn't they stop them? reageer retweet
:')_________!
Veertig minuten later nog een vervolg:

realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 16:01:10 ...Why did Democratic National Committee turn down the DHS offer to protect against hacks (long prior to election). It's all a big Dem HOAX! reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:07:12 #276
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Hij is weer nerveus aan het worden.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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Dus eerst ligt het aan Obama, maar een tijdje later is het een hoax? :?
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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Hij is lekker op dreef :P

realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 16:08:50 ...Why did the DNC REFUSE to turn over its Server to the FBI, and still hasn't? It's all a big Dem scam and excuse for losing the election! reageer retweet
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 16:15:48 I certainly hope the Democrats do not force Nancy P out. That would be very bad for the Republican Party - and please let Cryin' Chuck stay! reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:24:28 #279
1212 crew  Mike
Excellent!
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Twee jaar geleden kon je je toch niet voorstellen dat de leider van de vrije wereld dit soort berichten de wereld in zou sturen. :') En nu is het al bijna gewoon. :{
In some matters there's no reality, only perception. Truth exists, but people have a vested interest in not knowing it.
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Hij is lekker op dreef :P

realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 16:08:50 ...Why did the DNC REFUSE to turn over its Server to the FBI, and still hasn't? It's all a big Dem scam and excuse for losing the election! reageer retweet
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 16:15:48 I certainly hope the Democrats do not force Nancy P out. That would be very bad for the Republican Party - and please let Cryin' Chuck stay! reageer retweet
Vooral die tweede, wat een onbegrensde infantiliteit laat Trump hier weer zien zeg.
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Twee jaar geleden kon je je toch niet voorstellen dat de leider van de vrije wereld dit soort berichten de wereld in zou sturen. :') En nu is het al bijna gewoon. :{
Merkel stuurt zulke dingen toch nog steeds niet rond?
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:42:02 #282
54278 crew  Tijger_m
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0s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 16:24 schreef Mike het volgende:
Twee jaar geleden kon je je toch niet voorstellen dat de leider van de vrije wereld dit soort berichten de wereld in zou sturen. :') En nu is het al bijna gewoon. :{
Dat leider van de vrije wereld is wel over sinds Trump er zit.
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:43:29 #283
54278 crew  Tijger_m
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Wel leuk om te zien hoe makkelijk landen als China en de Saoedisch hem bespelen, geef hem gewoon wat dealtjes waar hij zelf rijker van wordt en hij is je beste vriend.
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:48:23 #284
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Wel leuk om te zien hoe makkelijk landen als China en de Saoedisch hem bespelen, geef hem gewoon wat dealtjes waar hij zelf rijker van wordt en hij is je beste vriend.
Klopt. Geef hem een medaille en hij is onder de indruk
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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Trump Doesn’t Want to Be President

He wants to be communications director.


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Trump doesn’t really want to be president. If he did, he’d nominate candidates to the 404 important but vacant administration jobs and get on with the job of governance. He doesn’t seem to want to be commander in chief of the armed forces, either, having outsourced Afghanistan troop-level decisions to Secretary of Defense James Mattis. Don’t burden him with foreign policy—which so daunts him that he’s postponed an official trip to Britain because (as some report) he fears the inevitable protests that will greet him. Nor is he much interested in upholding the oath he took on Inauguration Day, promising to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” He proves this lack of interest every day by ignoring the Constitution’s foreign emoluments clause.

To control and edit the messages radiating out of the White House is media hound Trump’s keenest ambition. He wants to conduct himself the way he did during those New York decades when he fed the tabloids items like Skittles from a fun-size bag. For his labors, he became the city’s most famous developer, and arguably the nation’s. In 2015, when he decided to run for president, he met with the New York Times’ Maggie Haberman for lunch and offered her the chance to break the story (not believing him, she declined). Trump kept calling her throughout the campaign and well after, as CNN’s Dylan Byers writes, seeming at times to lay siege on her phone in a scheme to win her over. During the presidential campaign, Trump earned a reputation as “leaker-in-chief” among his staff for blurting out sensitive information over the phone.

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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 16:50:13 #286
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Klopt. Geef hem een medaille en hij is onder de indruk
Trump heeft 8 nieuwe bedrijven opgericht in S-A tijdens zijn bezoek
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
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Als psycholoog zijnde ben ik waanzinnig geïnteresseerd hoe hij dit dan zo weet te spinnen dat hem geen blaam treft. De cognitieve dissonantie van narcisten heeft me altijd geïnteresseerd.
Hé, als psycholoog mag je geen diagnose stellen van iemand die niet in jouw praktijk is geweest! Dus laat dat maar aan de leken in dit topic over.

Ik ben waanzinnig geïnteresseerd hoe hij dit dan zo weet te spinnen dat hem geen blaam treft. De cognitieve dissonantie van narcisten heeft me altijd geïnteresseerd.

:)
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Senate GOP brings Obamacare repeal bill out of the shadows
After weeks of work behind closed doors, the GOP released its plan and will try to find the votes to pass it.

Senate Republican leaders unveiled their long-secret plan to repeal Obamacare on Thursday, giving GOP senators and the public the first glimpse at a bill that would rewrite the nation’s health care system.

The broad contours of the 142-page bill — which would tear down large parts of the 2010 health law, cap one of the nation’s biggest entitlement programs and overhaul one-sixth of the U.S. economy — have come into focus in recent days.

But GOP senators trickling out of an all-conference meeting this morning said while the reaction was broadly positive, it amounted to just an initial step toward winning over a host of still-skeptical lawmakers.

"A lot of questions," Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) said of the closed-door session. "But there wasn't paper. Until they get a chance to read it, I'm sure they won't firm up."

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is pushing for a vote as early as next Thursday, ahead of Congress’ July 4 recess. Since Democrats are unified in their opposition, Republicans are using a fast-track process that can evade filibusters.

GOP leaders need the support of at least 50 of the chamber’s 52 Republican senators to pass the bill, and several this week said they’re withholding their support until they see final legislation. Thursday’s represented the “start of the process” of getting requisite votes, said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas).

“We’ve been talking about these concepts for a long time. This is an attempt to bring us to … how we resolve the differences and achieve consensus. I think it’s going to be very detailed,” Cornyn said.

It won’t immediately be clear if McConnell has the votes until sometime next week, after a Congressional Budget Office analysis illustrates how many fewer Americans are likely to be insured by the bill and answers the crucial political question of whether premiums would be reduced.

And the proposal, which is being called a discussion draft, is likely to change before next week’s vote as senators engage in last-minute negotiations on the legislation.

Republicans are hoping for broader buy-in from the healthcare industry Thursday than the House bill received, some senators said. Republicans also said they expected the bulk of the caucus will endorse the bill immediately, with leadership allies expected to give the legislation a quick jolt of momentum.

“We’ll have some people who will say: ‘I’ll vote for it immediately,’ because they realize that failing to do anything will be very disastrous for the people that are hurt by the meltdown of Obamacare,” Cornyn said. “Others are going to have specific concerns that we’re going to have to talk our way though.”

Indeed, conservatives, moderates and senators from Medicaid expansion states all remained on the fence going into the meeting. And the lack of specificity gave them cover to keep their feelings about the bill private.

“Today I don’t know anything more than I knew yesterday. And so [Thursday] I’m going to know so much more and I’m going to have better responses to all of your questions,” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), a key moderate swing vote.

Still, the cajoling had already begun in earnest after Wednesday’s lunch, with Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) spotted working Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) during an afternoon vote. And President Donald Trump dialed up Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Tuesday to take his temperature.

The bill is expected to repeal Obamacare’s mandates and Medicaid expansion and impose significant cuts to the long-term Medicaid program. Republicans also want to reshape the Obamacare insurance subsidies to help low-income people buy insurance, but it is still unclear whether additional language to prohibit those plans from covering abortion will be allowed under Senate rules.

There are still many unanswered questions. Republicans want to defund Planned Parenthood for one year and repeal Obamacare’s taxes but those could change based on funding and political calculations. The proposal, which is being called a discussion draft, is expected to change before next week’s vote as senators engage in last-minute negotiations on the legislation.

Republicans plan to allow states to opt out of some of Obamacare’s insurance requirements, including one requiring states to have an exchange, as well as rules for what benefits insurers must cover, what qualifies as a health plan, and the actuarial value of the plans.

The bill is not expected to allow states to waive Obamacare requirements that insurers accept everyone and charge the same rates, with few exceptions. The House waived the latter requirement, triggering a storm of criticism that it was abandoning people with pre-existing conditions. Keeping those Obamacare requirements would mark a victory for GOP moderates but prompt pushback from conservatives, who want the waiver to be broader and allow more exclusions.
http://www.politico.com/s(...)icans-secrets-239837
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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Redactie Games donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 17:22:22 #290
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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0s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 17:02 schreef cynicus het volgende:

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Hé, als psycholoog mag je geen diagnose stellen van iemand die niet in jouw praktijk is geweest! Dus laat dat maar aan de leken in dit topic over.

Ik ben waanzinnig geïnteresseerd hoe hij dit dan zo weet te spinnen dat hem geen blaam treft. De cognitieve dissonantie van narcisten heeft me altijd geïnteresseerd.

:)
:P

Laat ik het dan maar even verduidelijken. Ik zeg niet dat hij een narcist is. Hij vertoont alleen kenmerken van narcisme. Heel groot verschil!
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
pi_171864005
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 17:46:36 #292
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
pi_171864322
Ah, ze hebben de achterkamertjes verlaten.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 17:55:55 #293
187810 Szura
Kijk eens aan!
pi_171864569
Republikeinen :')
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
  donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 18:45:38 #294
187810 Szura
Kijk eens aan!
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https://www.bloomberg.com(...)ersations-with-comey

Trump Doesn’t Have Recordings of Conversations With Comey, Source Says
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
  Redactie Games donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 18:46:47 #295
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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quote:
1s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 18:45 schreef Szura het volgende:
https://www.bloomberg.com(...)ersations-with-comey

Trump Doesn’t Have Recordings of Conversations With Comey, Source Says
In ander nieuws, water is nat.
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
  Moderator donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 18:50:15 #296
54278 crew  Tijger_m
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quote:
1s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 18:45 schreef Szura het volgende:
https://www.bloomberg.com(...)ersations-with-comey

Trump Doesn’t Have Recordings of Conversations With Comey, Source Says
Tja, zolang hij dat zelf niet zegt, en het ook waar is, blijft het een probleem.
"The enemy isn't men, or women, it's bloody stupid people and no one has the right to be stupid." - Sir Terry Pratchett.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 18:53:47 #297
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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quote:
1s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 18:45 schreef Szura het volgende:
https://www.bloomberg.com(...)ersations-with-comey

Trump Doesn’t Have Recordings of Conversations With Comey, Source Says
Hij heeft toch niet iets onwaars geïnsinueerd? Zoiets zou hij toch nooit doen naar het Amerikaanse volk? Ik geloof het niet.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  Overall beste user 2022 donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 18:55:22 #298
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
pi_171866096
Wat zou er dan nog meer onwaar zijn? Het is toch niet te geloven.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 18:54:50 With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea... reageer retweet
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 18:55:02 ...whether there are "tapes" or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings. reageer retweet
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
  Redactie Games donderdag 22 juni 2017 @ 19:05:31 #300
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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6s.gif Op donderdag 22 juni 2017 19:03 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 18:54:50 With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea... reageer retweet
realDonaldTrump twitterde op donderdag 22-06-2017 om 18:55:02 ...whether there are "tapes" or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings. reageer retweet
Daaaaar is de cognitieve dissonantie.
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
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