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THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST

THE ROLE OF ZIONISM IN THE HOLOCAUST
Article by Rabbi Gedalya Liebermann - Australia
http://www.truetorahjews.org/lieberman
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"Spiritually and Physically Responsible "

From its' inception, many rabbis warned of the potential dangers of Zionism and openly declared that all Jews loyal to G-d should stay away from it like one would from fire. They made their opinions clear to their congregants and to the general public. Their message was that Zionism is a chauvinistic racist phenomenon which has absolutely naught to do with Judaism. They publicly expressed that Zionism would definitely be detrimental to the well being of Jews and Gentiles and that its effects on the Jewish religion would be nothing other than destructive. Further, it would taint the reputation of Jewry as a whole and would cause utter confusion in the Jewish and non-Jewish communities. Judaism is a religion. Judaism is not a race or a nationality. That was and still remains the consensus amongst the rabbis.

We were given the Holy Land by G-d in order to be able to study and practice the Torah without disturbance and to attain levels of holiness difficult to attain outside of the Holy Land. We abused the privilege and we were expelled. That is exactly what all Jews say in their prayers on every Jewish festival, "Umipnay chatoenu golinu mayartsaynu" - "Because of our sins we were expelled from our land".

We have been forsworn by G-d "not to enter the Holy Land as a body before the predestined time", "not to rebel against the nations", to be loyal citizens, not to do anything against the will of any nation or its honour, not to seek vengeance, discord, restitution or compensation; "not to leave exile ahead of time." On the contrary; we have to be humble and accept the yoke of exile.

(Talmud Tractate Ksubos p. 111a).

To violate the oaths is not only a sin, it is a heresy because it is against the fundamentals of our Belief. Only through complete repentance will the Almighty alone, without any human effort or intervention, redeem us from exile. This will be after G-d will send the prophet Elijah and Moshiach who will induce all Jews to complete repentance. At that time there will be universal peace.

THE UNHEEDED CRY

All of the leading Jewish religious authorities of that era predicted great hardship to befall humanity generally and the Jewish People particularly, as a result of Zionism. To be a Jew means that either one is born to a Jewish mother or converts to the religion with the condition that he or she make no reservations with regard to Jewish Law. Unfortunately there are many Jews who have no inkling whatsoever as to the duties of a Jew. Many of them are not to blame, for in many cases they lacked a Jewish education and upbringing. But there are those who deliberately distort the teachings of our tradition to suit their personal needs. It is self understood that not just anyone has the right or the ability to make a decision regarding the philosophy or law of a religion. Especially matters in which that person has no qualification. It follows then that those individuals who "decided" that Judaism is a nationality are to be ignored and even criticized. It is no secret that the founders of Zionism had never studied Jewish Law nor did they express interest in our holy tradition. They openly defied Rabbinical authority and self-appointed themselves as leaders of the Jewish "nation". In Jewish history, actions like those have always spelled disaster. To be a Jew and show open defiance of authority or to introduce "amendment" or "innovation" without first consulting with those officially appointed as Jewish spiritual leaders is the ideal equation to equal catastrophe. One can not just decide to "modernize" ancient traditions or regulations. The spiritual leaders of contemporary Judaism better known as Orthodox rabbis have received ordination to judge and interpret matters pertaining to the Jewish faith. These rabbis have received their rights and responsibilities and form a link in the unbroken chain of the Jewish tradition dating all the way back to Moses who received the Torah from Almighty G-d Himself. It was these very rabbis who, at the time of the formation of the Zionist movement, foresaw the pernicious outcome that was without a doubt lined up. It was a man possessing outstanding Judaic genius, and a level of uncontested holiness who enunciated the Jewish stance regarding Zionism.

This charismatic individual, the Rebbe of Satmar, Grand Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum, did not mince any words. Straight to the point he called Zionism "the work of Satan", "a sacrilege" and "a blasphemy". He forbade any participation with anything even remotely associated with Zionism and said that Zionism was bound to call the wrath of G-d upon His people. He maintained this stance with unwavering bravery from the onset of Zionism whilst he was still in Hungary up until his death in New York where he lead a congregation numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Grand Rabbi Teitelbaum, scion to a legacy of holy mystics and Hassidic Masters unfortunately had his prediction fulfilled. We lost more than six million of our brothers, sisters, sons and daughters in a very horrible manner. This, more than six million holy people had to experience as punishment for the Zionist stupidity. The Holocaust, he wept, was a direct result of Zionism, a punishment from G-d.

IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

But it doesn't end there. It wasn't enough for the Zionist leaders to have aroused the wrath of G-d. They made a point of displaying abysmal contempt for their Jewish brothers and sisters by actively participating in their extermination. Just the idea alone of Zionism, which the rabbis had informed them would cause havoc, was not enough for them. They made an effort to pour fuel on an already burning flame. They had to incite the Angel of Death, Adolf Hitler. They took the liberty of telling the world that they represented World Jewry. Who appointed these individuals as leaders of the Jewish People?? It is no secret that these so-called "leaders" were ignoramuses when it came to Judaism. Atheists and racists too. These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. Genocide began, but these people, if they can really be classified as members of the human race, sat back.

"No Shame"

President Roosevelt convened the Evian conference July 6-15 1938, to deal with the Jewish refugee problem. The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a German offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and the Zionists made no effort to influence the United States and the 32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of German and Austrian Jews. [Source]

On Feb 1, 1940 Henry Montor executive vice-President of the United Jewish Appeal refused to intervene for a shipload of Jewish refugees stranded on the Danube river, stating that "Palestine cannot be flooded with... old people or with undesirables." [Source]

Read "The Millions That Could Have Been Saved" by I.DombIt is an historical fact that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that: a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

The Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

The answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments: a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees. b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war. c) No ransom will be paid This response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

These treacherous Zionist leaders betrayed their own flesh and blood. Zionism was never an option for Jewish salvation. Quite the opposite, it was a formula for human beings to be used as pawns for the power trip of several desperadoes. A perfidy! A betrayal beyond description!

In 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved. The same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

The British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

On December 17, 1942 both houses of the British Parliament declared its readiness to find temporary refuge for endangered persons. The British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany. This motion received within two weeks a total of 277 Parliamentary signatures. On Jan. 27, when the next steps were being pursued by over 100 M.P.'s and Lords, a spokesman for the Zionists announced that the Jews would oppose the motion because Palestine was omitted. [Source]

On Feb. 16, 1943 Roumania offered 70,000 Jewish refugees of the Trans-Dniestria to leave at the cost of $50 each. This was publicized in the New York papers. Yitzhak Greenbaum, Chairman of the Rescue Committee of the Jewish Agency, addressing the Zionist Executive Council in Tel Aviv Feb. 18 1943 said, "when they asked me, "couldn't you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said NO! and I say again, NO!...one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance." On Feb. 24, 1943 Stephen Wise, President of the American Jewish Congress and leader of the American Zionists issued a public refusal to this offer and declared no collection of funds would seem justified. In 1944, the Emergency Committee to Save the Jewish People called upon the American government to establish a War Refugee Board. Stephen Wise testifying before a special committee of Congress objected to this proposal. [Source]

During the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weizman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weizman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

In 1947 Congressman William Stration sponsored a bill to immediately grant entry to the United States of 400,000 displaced persons. The bill was not passed after it was publicly denounced by the Zionist leadership. [Source]

These facts are read with consternation and unbearable shame. How can it be explained that at a time during the last phase of the war, when the Nazis were willing to barter Jews for money, partly because of their desires to establish contact with the Western powers which, they believed, were under Jewish influence, how was it possible one asks that the self-proclaimed "Jewish leaders" did not move heaven and earth to save the last remnant of their brothers?

On Feb. 23, 1956 the Hon. J. W. Pickersgill, Minister for Immigration was asked in the Canadian House of Commons "would he open the doors of Canada to Jewish refugees". He replied "the government has made no progress in that direction because the government of Israel....does not wish us to do so". [Source]

In 1972, the Zionist leadership successfully opposed an effort in the United States Congress to allow 20,000-30,000 Russian refugees to enter the United States. Jewish relief organizations, Joint and HIAS, were being pressured to abandon these refugees in Vienna, Rome and other Europiean cities. [Source]
The pattern is clear!!! Humanitarian rescue efforts are subverted to narrow Zionist interests.

There were many more shocking crimes committed by these abject degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", we could list many more example, but for the time being let anyone produce a valid excuse for the above facts.

Zionist responsibility for the Holocaust is threefold.

1. The Holocaust was a punishment for disrespecting The Three Oaths (see Talmud, Tractate Kesubos p. 111a).

2. Zionist leaders openly withheld support, both financially and otherwise, to save their fellow brothers and sisters from a cruel death.

3. The leaders of the Zionist movement cooperated with Hitler and his cohorts on many occasions and in many ways.

Zionists Offer a Military Alliance with Hitler

It would be wishful thinking if it could be stated that the leaders of the Zionist movement sat back and ignored the plight of their dying brothers and sisters. Not only did they publicly refuse to assist in their rescue, but they actively participated with Hitler and the Nazi regime. Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letter for its name, "Tel Aviv", while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party (Nazi) member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity". Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich. In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel", better known as the Lehi or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi - Etzel) over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main enemy of Zionism.

This remarkable proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in Europe and the active participation on the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:

"The NMO which is very familiar with the goodwill of the German Reich government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and the Zionist emigration program takes the view that: 1.Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as embodied by the NMO. 2.Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folkish-national Jewry. 3.The establishment of the Jewish state on a national and totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty, with the German Reich, would be in the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of power in the Near East.

"On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part in the war on the side of Germany.

"This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures, outside as well. Along with this the "Jewish" men of Europe would be militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front be formed.

"The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a positive-radical solution of the European-Jewish problem on the basis of the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all humanity.

"The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and defeat England".

(Original document in German Auswertiges Amt Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E224152 and E234155-58. Complete original text published in: David Yisraeli, The Palestinian Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1947) pp. 315-317).

On the basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group believed was in its own national interests.

This is just one example of the Zionist movements' collaboration with Hitler for the purpose of possibly receiving jurisdiction over a minute piece of earth, Palestine.

And to top it all up, brainwashing!

How far this unbelievable Zionist conspiracy has captured the Jewish masses, and how impossible it is for any different thought to penetrate their minds, even to the point of mere evaluation, can be seen in the vehemence of the reaction to any reproach. With blinded eyes and closed ears, any voice raised in protest and accusation is immediately suppressed and deafened by the thousandfold cry: "Traitor," "Enemy of the Jewish People."

Source for paragraphs marked "[Source]": The Wall Street Journal December 2, 1976
  vrijdag 1 mei 2015 @ 22:56:23 #202
235357 TitusPullo
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Ja? Heeft de Gestapo in 1942 aangeboden om alle Europese Joden naar Spanje te laten vertrekken?
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Ja? Heeft de Gestapo in 1942 aangeboden om alle Europese Joden naar Spanje te laten vertrekken?
Zionists Debate Rescue of Hungarian Jews

(May 25, 1944)

Draft
Confidential
No. 48

Minutes of Meeting of the Jewish Agency Executive, Jerusalem, May 25, 1944

In attendance:
Mr. Ben-Gurion, Chairman
Mr. Gruenbaum
Mr. Kaplan
Dr. Shmurak
Mr. Shertok
Dr. Joseph
Mr. Shapira
Mr. Dobkin
Mr. Eisenberg

On the agenda: Rescue of Hungarian Jews

(Mr. Zeev Pomerantz, who had previously come from Turkey, entered.)

Mr. Pomerantz:

The matter on which I am about to report is extremely grave and extremely sensational. On March 19, 1944—the day the Germans entered Hungary, with no Hungarian resistance whatsoever (they talk about one shooting only)—persecution of the Jews began. The first to be interned were leaders of the leftist party and Polish and Hungarian Jews. Within the first three weeks, about 6,000 persons were removed from Hungary. Today, 300,000 Jews have been concentrated in Carpathian Ruthenia and Transylvania. The concentration camps are run by the Germans and the Hungarians.

Eight thousand Jews have been deported to Poland to date, and starting next week another 12,000 will be deported every day.

Several Hungarian Jews have been in contact with the German authorities. As we know, these contacts also took place in Slovakia and the deportations from that country were occasionally delayed because of them.

Now, three weeks ago, two of our comrades in Hungary, Mr. Joel Brand and Mr. R.Kastner, were summoned for a talk with the commander of the Gestapo, the well-known Eichmann. Krumi (Scherzer) Schreber, and Willi, whom we know from Slovakia, took part in this talk for the Gestapo. Eichmann bragged that he had executed three and a half million Jews. If the Jews wanted, he would now be willing to make a “deal” with them: goods instead of blood. Churchill, he said, wants to save the Jews. Roosevelt argues that the Jews are his. So, he said, the Gestapo is willing to give them the Jews, on the condition that they head for Portugal or Spain and not be routed to Palestine. In return, they want ten thousand trucks, to be used exclusively on the eastern front; eighty tons of coffee, twenty tons of tea, twenty tons of cocoa, and two million bars of soap. They are also willing to exchange Jews for German POWs.

This talk was followed by another three or four talks. They are willing to deliver the Jews to the border of Spain or Portugal. One of them blurted that they would also want a little money. They would release one hundred Jews for each truck delivered to them.

https://www.jewishvirtual(...)st/rescuedebate.html

Ik zoek de bron voor 1942 nog.
  vrijdag 1 mei 2015 @ 23:14:58 #204
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0s.gif Op vrijdag 1 mei 2015 23:04 schreef Ali_Kannibali het volgende:

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Zionists Debate Rescue of Hungarian Jews

(May 25, 1944)

Draft
Confidential
No. 48

Minutes of Meeting of the Jewish Agency Executive, Jerusalem, May 25, 1944

In attendance:
Mr. Ben-Gurion, Chairman
Mr. Gruenbaum
Mr. Kaplan
Dr. Shmurak
Mr. Shertok
Dr. Joseph
Mr. Shapira
Mr. Dobkin
Mr. Eisenberg

On the agenda: Rescue of Hungarian Jews

(Mr. Zeev Pomerantz, who had previously come from Turkey, entered.)

Mr. Pomerantz:

The matter on which I am about to report is extremely grave and extremely sensational. On March 19, 1944—the day the Germans entered Hungary, with no Hungarian resistance whatsoever (they talk about one shooting only)—persecution of the Jews began. The first to be interned were leaders of the leftist party and Polish and Hungarian Jews. Within the first three weeks, about 6,000 persons were removed from Hungary. Today, 300,000 Jews have been concentrated in Carpathian Ruthenia and Transylvania. The concentration camps are run by the Germans and the Hungarians.

Eight thousand Jews have been deported to Poland to date, and starting next week another 12,000 will be deported every day.

Several Hungarian Jews have been in contact with the German authorities. As we know, these contacts also took place in Slovakia and the deportations from that country were occasionally delayed because of them.

Now, three weeks ago, two of our comrades in Hungary, Mr. Joel Brand and Mr. R.Kastner, were summoned for a talk with the commander of the Gestapo, the well-known Eichmann. Krumi (Scherzer) Schreber, and Willi, whom we know from Slovakia, took part in this talk for the Gestapo. Eichmann bragged that he had executed three and a half million Jews. If the Jews wanted, he would now be willing to make a “deal” with them: goods instead of blood. Churchill, he said, wants to save the Jews. Roosevelt argues that the Jews are his. So, he said, the Gestapo is willing to give them the Jews, on the condition that they head for Portugal or Spain and not be routed to Palestine. In return, they want ten thousand trucks, to be used exclusively on the eastern front; eighty tons of coffee, twenty tons of tea, twenty tons of cocoa, and two million bars of soap. They are also willing to exchange Jews for German POWs.

This talk was followed by another three or four talks. They are willing to deliver the Jews to the border of Spain or Portugal. One of them blurted that they would also want a little money. They would release one hundred Jews for each truck delivered to them.

https://www.jewishvirtual(...)st/rescuedebate.html

Ik zoek de bron voor 1942 nog.
Dus de Duitsers beginnen de Joden meteen te vervolgen, Eichmann beweert dat hij er miljoenen vermoord heeft, en vervolgens willen ze onderhandelen over het lot van de Joden om oorlogsmateriaal te verkrijgen. Nu, dat klinkt niet bepaald alsof de Zionisten er veel aan kunnen doen.
The crowning attainment of historical study is a historical sense - an intuitive understanding of how things do not happen. - Lewis Namier
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 00:20:25 #205
435304 Izzy73
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15s.gif Op vrijdag 1 mei 2015 16:37 schreef El_Matador het volgende:
Maar Ali, wat is er nu zo belangrijk aan het joods-zijn van de Rothschilds. Dát haalt de "kritiek=antisemitisme"-claim onderuit.

Mensen die "een joods wereldcomplot" veronderstellen, hebben altijd zowel een vieze agenda als een enorme blinde vlek voor de niet-joodse complotten.

Het idee dat hier eerder geopperd is; dat de gehele holocaust werd opgezet om de Staat Israel mogelijk te maken is ook redelijk bizar omslachtig; men kon ook gewoon gelijk Palestina intrekken en de boel bezetten. Die paar Palestijnen konden ook niet op tegen legermachten toen.
Het is eigenlijk meer een Khazaars wereldcomplot, ook in Rusland zijn ze geïnfiltreerd en hebben de identiteit van de Rus aangenomen uit wraak. De Khazaarse maffia.

Stel zoals je zegt dat men uit het niets een staat Israël maakt.
Hoe overtuig je dan mensen van Joodse afkomst om er te komen wonen?
Als je het goed hebt ga je niet zomaar verhuizen toch?
Nu zie je weer een beetje hetzelfde gebeuren met de terreurdreiging van extreme Moslims.
Netanyahu heeft al verschillende oproepen gedaan aan Joden die in Europa wonen om te verhuizen naar Israël.

P.s ik had dit al eerder geschreven maar niet gepost. Ik zie dat Ali_Kannibali inmiddels een soortgelijk antwoord heeft gepost (zeer uitgebreid) maar post het toch maar vanwege de vergelijking met de huidige uitnodigingen van Netanyahu. Maar laten we het met zijn allen wat meer over de Rothschilds hebben hier ipv. het algehele zionisme.
If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 00:37:05 #206
34614 jogy
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2s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 00:20 schreef Izzy73 het volgende:
Maar laten we het met zijn allen wat meer over de Rothschilds hebben hier ipv. het algehele zionisme.
Dat is hoe dan ook wel een strak plan ja :).
Iedereen is de hoofdrolspeler van zijn eigen komedie.
Vrijheid
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Dat is hoe dan ook wel een strak plan ja :).
zit jij ook al bij het complot? hoe durf jij hier te komen modereren?
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 00:55:09 #208
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zit jij ook al bij het complot? hoe durf jij hier te komen modereren?
Ik wacht nog steeds op een goed aanbod om mensen zand in de ogen te strooien. Gewoon over je gêne heen stappen, wordt steeds makkelijker.
Iedereen is de hoofdrolspeler van zijn eigen komedie.
Vrijheid
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9s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 00:55 schreef jogy het volgende:

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Ik wacht nog steeds op een goed aanbod om mensen zand in de ogen te strooien. Gewoon over je gêne heen stappen, wordt steeds makkelijker.
Wat goed van je. O+

Ik kwam trouwens deze weer tegen, gekke shizzle:

  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 02:09:42 #210
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Wat goed van je. O+

Ik kwam trouwens deze weer tegen, gekke shizzle:

Leuk feestje :).
Iedereen is de hoofdrolspeler van zijn eigen komedie.
Vrijheid
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 09:08:26 #211
61646 Copycat
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Als je geld hebt als water, kun je zo'n kunstthema tot in de puntjes verzorgen. Compleet met aanwezigheid van een van de geparafraseerde kunstenaars.
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 09:19:58 #212
235357 TitusPullo
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2s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 00:20 schreef Izzy73 het volgende:

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Het is eigenlijk meer een Khazaars wereldcomplot, ook in Rusland zijn ze geïnfiltreerd en hebben de identiteit van de Rus aangenomen uit wraak. De Khazaarse maffia.

Stel zoals je zegt dat men uit het niets een staat Israël maakt.
Hoe overtuig je dan mensen van Joodse afkomst om er te komen wonen?
Als je het goed hebt ga je niet zomaar verhuizen toch?
Nu zie je weer een beetje hetzelfde gebeuren met de terreurdreiging van extreme Moslims.
Netanyahu heeft al verschillende oproepen gedaan aan Joden die in Europa wonen om te verhuizen naar Israël.

P.s ik had dit al eerder geschreven maar niet gepost. Ik zie dat Ali_Kannibali inmiddels een soortgelijk antwoord heeft gepost (zeer uitgebreid) maar post het toch maar vanwege de vergelijking met de huidige uitnodigingen van Netanyahu. Maar laten we het met zijn allen wat meer over de Rothschilds hebben hier ipv. het algehele zionisme.
Hoe kom je er toch bij dat alle Joden het goed hadden?
The crowning attainment of historical study is a historical sense - an intuitive understanding of how things do not happen. - Lewis Namier
  Moderator zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 10:14:14 #213
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Hoe kom je er toch bij dat alle Joden het goed hadden?
Eén van de vele vooroordelen die op dit topic voorbij komen.
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 10:34:08 #214
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Hoe kom je er toch bij dat alle Joden het goed hadden?
Er staat ALS, dus ... ik stel niet dat het zo was.
If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 10:54:10 #215
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2s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 10:34 schreef Izzy73 het volgende:

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Er staat ALS, dus ... ik stel niet dat het zo was.
Dit is een heel andere als, hoor. "Ik begrijp niet dat Xavi naar Qatar gaat. Als je al die jaren prachtig voetbal hebt gespeeld in Spanje, dan wil je toch niet je laatste jaren slijten in een competitie die niets voorstelt?"
Of, vandaag in De Volkskrant: Als je niet zo zeker bent van jezelf,ontleen je status aan bezittingen.
The crowning attainment of historical study is a historical sense - an intuitive understanding of how things do not happen. - Lewis Namier
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 11:08:12 #216
61646 Copycat
I am a trigger hippie
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Als ik niet beter wist, zou ik denken dat er een geintje wordt gemaakt.
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
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11s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 02:09 schreef jogy het volgende:

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Leuk feestje :).
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17s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 09:08 schreef Copycat het volgende:
Als je geld hebt als water, kun je zo'n kunstthema tot in de puntjes verzorgen. Compleet met aanwezigheid van een van de geparafraseerde kunstenaars.
Salvador Dali. _O_

Heb(ben) jij/jullie een idee wat enkele van die maskers of decors betekenen of dat ze iets zeggen over die Joden... of ik bedoel die Rothschilds?
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 15:05:45 #218
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Salvador Dali. _O_

Heb(ben) jij/jullie een idee wat enkele van die maskers of decors betekenen of dat ze iets zeggen over die Joden... of ik bedoel die Rothschilds?
Ik herken wat werken van Magritte (bijvoorbeeld de vrouw met appel voor het gezicht) en Dali (halve hoofdjes).

Misschien was het thema 'Ceci n'est pas une fête' ...
Curiosity cultured the cat
Hoge dames vangen veel wind
Whadda ya hear! Whadda ya say!
What is any ocean but a multitude of drops?
  Moderator zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 15:11:27 #219
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Ik herken wat werken van Magritte (bijvoorbeeld de vrouw met appel voor het gezicht) en Dali (halve hoofdjes).

Misschien was het thema 'Ceci n'est pas une fête' ...
Het is intrigerend. En eng. En mystiek. En verwarrend.
Schoonheid.
  zaterdag 2 mei 2015 @ 19:14:30 #220
435304 Izzy73
Read the signs!
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Dit is een heel andere als, hoor. "Ik begrijp niet dat Xavi naar Qatar gaat. Als je al die jaren prachtig voetbal hebt gespeeld in Spanje, dan wil je toch niet je laatste jaren slijten in een competitie die niets voorstelt?"
Of, vandaag in De Volkskrant: Als je niet zo zeker bent van jezelf,ontleen je status aan bezittingen.
Ik begrijp wel waarom Xavi naar Qatar gaat, als je daar veel meer geld kan verdienen.
(persoonlijk zou ik het niet doen maar er zijn nu eenmaal van die onzekere voetballers die graag status ontlenen aan bezittingen)
Maar goed ik bedoel dus dat je niet zo snel gaat verhuizen naar een ander land wanneer er geen dringende rede is om dit te doen. Nu tevreden? Einde discussie lijkt me want is totaal niet inhoudelijk.
If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
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Want als je geld wilt of hebt ben je onzeker en ontleen je daar je status aan 8-)

Jaloezie in z'n puurste vorm.
Conscience do cost.
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2s.gif Op zaterdag 2 mei 2015 19:14 schreef Izzy73 het volgende:
Maar goed ik bedoel dus dat je niet zo snel gaat verhuizen naar een ander land wanneer er geen dringende rede is om dit te doen.
Whuut? Waarom nou weer een "dringende" reden?

Nederland is een piepklein pedant postzegeltje in een wervelende wonderschone wereld, je zou wel gek zijn daar je hele leven te slijten....
The only limit is your own imagination
Ik ben niet gelovig aangelegd en maak daarin geen onderscheid tussen dominees, imams, scharenslieps, autohandelaren, politici en massamedia

Waarom er geen vliegtuig in het WTC vloog
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Op zondag 3 mei 2015 02:49 schreef El_Matador het volgende:
Whuut? Waarom nou weer een "dringende" reden?

Nederland is een piepklein pedant postzegeltje in een wervelende wonderschone wereld, je zou wel gek zijn daar je hele leven te slijten....
:X
  zondag 3 mei 2015 @ 13:02:46 #224
435304 Izzy73
Read the signs!
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18s.gif Op zondag 3 mei 2015 02:49 schreef El_Matador het volgende:

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Whuut? Waarom nou weer een "dringende" reden?

Nederland is een piepklein pedant postzegeltje in een wervelende wonderschone wereld, je zou wel gek zijn daar je hele leven te slijten....
Zo kunnen we bezig blijven hé, waar gaat deze discussie heen?
Straks hebben we het over de vogeltrek.

En fucking hell wat is er veel shit te vinden op internet over De Rothschild dynasty.
Dit zou eigenlijk het meest "populaire" topic moeten zijn op BNW.
Ik zat even te zoeken naar een kickje over de Rothschilds maar weet gewoon niet wat te kiezen.
Die lui lijken indirect echt overal bij betrokken te zijn, het bedrijfsleven, de banken, media, oorlogen en hun invloed op de politiek in vele landen
En het probleem is dat wat je hier ook aan bronnen/verhalen post. Er zijn constant mensen die de antisemitisme kaart spelen waardoor het onmogelijk is om hen in een kwaad daglicht te stellen.

If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
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Zondebokken. Natuurlijk kan je daar veel over vinden op the interwebz.
Conscience do cost.
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