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Tijdlijn van de ontwikkelingen in Oekrane
NOVEMBER
* Nov 21: Kiev suddenly announces suspension of trade and association talks with the EU and opts to revive economic ties with Moscow, triggering months of mass rallies in Kiev.
* Nov 30: Riot police try to break up the Kiev demonstration by force. Protest turns against Yanukovich and his government.

DECEMBER
Protests continue with crowds of up to 800,000. Some clashes with police. Opposition forms bloc called Maidan. Yanukovich and Putin meet, Putin agrees to buy $15 billion of Ukrainian debt and to slash by a third the price of Russian gas supplies to Ukraine.

JANUARY
* Jan 22: Three people die in protests in Kiev. EU threatens action over crisis. Talks between opposition, Yanukovich fail.
* Jan 23: Washington threatens sanctions over violence.
* Jan 26: Unrest spreads to pro-Yanukovich east.

FEBRUARY
Anti-government protests turn increasingly violent. At least 77 people killed in clashes between demonstrators and police.
* Feb 21: Opposition leaders sign EU-mediated peace pact with Yanukovich.
* Feb 22: Ukraine's parliament votes to remove Yanukovich, who flees. Arch-rival Yulia Tymoshenko released from jail.
* Feb 26: Ukraine appoints new government. Angry Russia puts 150,000 troops on high alert.
* Feb 27-28: Armed men seize Crimea parliament, raise Russian flag. Militia take control of two airports in Crimea.

MARCH
* March 1: Putin wins parliamentary approval to invade Ukraine, angering the White House. Russian forces fan out in Crimea.
* March 6: Crimea's leadership votes to join Russia. U.S. President Barack Obama orders sanctions on those responsible for Moscow's actions in Ukraine.
EU leaders hold emergency summit to find ways to pressure Russia to back down and accept mediation.
* March 15: Two killed in clashes between pro-Russian demonstrators and Ukrainian nationalists.
* March 16: Referendum held in Crimea, shows overwhelming support for joining the Russian Federation.
* March 21: Putin signs laws completing annexation of Crimea. The U.S. imposes sanctions on Putin's close allies, EU follows with similar measures.
* March 23: NATO says Russia has amassed a large force at Ukraine's border.
* March 24: Ukraine pulls troops from Crimea.

APRIL
* April 2: NATO suspends cooperation with Russia.
* April 7: Pro-Russia activists in eastern Ukraine proclaim the creation of the "Donetsk People's Republic".
* April 12: Separatists take control of city of Slaviansk in eastern Ukraine. Kiev prepares troops.
* April 13: One Ukrainian state security officer killed and five wounded in operation against separatists.
* April 14: Obama warns Putin in phone call that Moscow would face further costs for its actions in Ukraine.
* April 17: Pro-Russian separatists seize armored vehicles of Ukraine forces trying to recapture rebel-controlled town.
* April 18: The United States, Russia, Ukraine and the EU reach deal for illegal armed groups to disarm and end occupations of public buildings and spaces.
* April 19: Separatists say they will not sign deal until the Kiev government steps down.
* April 24: Ukraine sends in troops again to try to expel the separatists in Slaviansk, kill five rebels.
* April 25: Ukrainian forces mount full blockade of Slaviansk. Separatists detain group of international observers, say a Kiev "spy" among them.
* April 26: G7 leaders agree to impose extra sanctions on Russia over Ukraine. Yatsenyuk cuts short a Vatican trip to see Pope Francis, saying Russian warplanes violated Ukraine's airspace seven times overnight. Russia denies the claim.
* April 27: Rebels say the OSCE observers are "prisoners of war" and present them in front of the press, where they say they have not been mistreated.
* April 28: West imposes new sanctions on Moscow. Russia vows a "painful" response. Russia says troops have returned to barracks after conducting exercises on the border with Ukraine. The West says there is no sign of this pull-back. Russia assures the US it will not invade Ukraine.
* April 29: Russia accuses Washington of seeking to revive Iron Curtain policies. Putin warns sanctions could harm Western interests in Russia's lucrative energy sector, denies there are Russian forces in eastern Ukraine.
* April 30: Kiev says its armed forces are on "full combat alert" against a possible Russian invasion. Interim president Oleksandr Turchynov admits Kiev is "helpless" to prevent rebels over-running towns. Rebels storm the regional police building and town hall in Gorlivka. The International Monetary Fund approves $17-billion aid deal for the beleaguered Ukrainian economy.

MAY
* May 1: Some 300 pro-Russian militants seize prosecutor's office in Donetsk amid violent clashes with police. Conscription reintroduced for all Ukrainian men aged 18-25.
* May 2: Ukrainian commandos launch pre-dawn raid to retake Slavyansk. Rebels shoot down two helicopters and two servicemen are killed.
* May 3: Slavyansk rebels free OSCE inspectors after Kremlin envoy intervenes. Two days of mourning proclaimed over Odessa deaths. Fierce firefights around Slavyansk and nearby towns as military seeks to retake control.
* May 4: Kiev vows to expand "anti-terrorism" operations. Yatsenyuk launches probe into security forces in Odessa over the deaths.
May 5: A fresh assault begins on Slovyansk. The interior minister says more than 30 rebels are killed. Four servicemen are also killed. Russia warns Europe's peace is at risk. UN chief Ban Ki-moon offers to mediate personally as the West launches new diplomatic push.
May 6: Russia rejects a German-led move for a new peace meeting. Germany says Ukraine is on the verge of war.
May 7: In a surprise announcement, Putin calls for rebel independence referendums to be pushed back and endorses Ukraine's planned presidential election. He says Russian troops pulled back from border. The new overall toll from Ukrainian military operations stands at 14 servicemen dead.
May 8: Rebels vow to press on with referendums despite Putin's call. Russia conducts military exercises, test-fires several missiles, and says nuclear capabilities are on "constant combat alert." NATO says there is no sign of a Russian troop pull-back.
May 9: Putin flies to annexed Crimea after overseeing a display of military might in the Red Square where he paid tribute to Russia's "all-conquering patriotic force." Clashes break out in Mariupol that the interior minister says leave 21 dead.
May 10: France and Germany threaten to step up sanctions against Russia if the May 25 election is disrupted and urge Kiev to cease "offensive" operations before the vote.
May 11: "Referendums" are held in the provinces of Luhansk and Donetsk. Fighting is reported around Slovyansk as rebels try to retake TV tower.
May 12: Pro-Russia activists declare resounding victory in a twin referendum on sovereignty for eastern Ukraine. The provinces of Donetsk and Luhansk voted on Sunday to secede from Ukraine. Russian gas giant Gazprom gives Ukraine until June 3 to pay $1.6bn for natural gas. The EU ramps up sanctions on Moscow.
May 13: Seven Ukrainian soldiers killed in rebel ambush in the deadliest single loss of life for the military since the start of the uprising.
May 14: Ukraine hosts "national unity" talks based on an OSCE roadmap but rebels are not invited.
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  maandag 7 juli 2014 @ 20:26:22 #2
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Konstantinovka & Semenovoka ontzet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:12:24 #Tymchuk #Semenovoka is completely cleansed. #ATO made filtration there. #Ukraine reageer retweet


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  maandag 7 juli 2014 @ 20:27:11 #3
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lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:40:18 On July 3-4 terrorists in #Slaviansk had 18 tanks, around 30 BMP-APC-BRDM-BMDs, 12 AA guns. ALL tanks were lost. 1 remained. Didn't make it. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:43:14 700 #Girkin aka #Strelok men made to #Donetsk. 300 stayed in #Horlivka, some went to #Luhansk-#Krasnodon direction. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:51:43 Terrorists fled #Slaviansk in 2 columns, 1 over fields & rear guard. Rear guard & over fields where smashed to bits. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:53:33 The main fleeing column was left intact, although #ATO 2 Su planes did follow them to #Horlivka. #Ukraine reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:02:02 Battalion "#Vostok" has almost non existing chain of command. In #Donetsk beside 700 #Girkin's men 1200 #Vostok ones + Russian Orthodox Army reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:06:53 #ATO air forces made air raids in #Horlivka on #Bezler aka #Bez unit camps, ammo depot. Had significant losses, ammo depot gone. #Ukraine reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:05:40 #Torez-#Snizhne units have been hit seriously, in bad shapes,also w no armour now.The #Horlivka units have been too seriously hit, lost ammo reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:10:54 On June 6 fr #Russian Orthodox Army all mercenary snipers left saying won't obey to idiots & salary is shit. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:12:46 On June 6 terrorists tried to seize #Donetsk airport. Unskilled ROA & #Vostok. Lost many, 1 tank, lorry truck w AA gun. Tank was fr #Snizhne reageer retweet
Tanks en nog heel veel ander materieel is achtergelaten in Slaviansk
tuumapomm twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 19:45:34 @lennutrajektoor tactical retreat my ass reageer retweet


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Die lennutrajektoor is pro-Oekrane gok ik?
  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 12:21:49 #5
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 8 juli 2014 09:24 schreef Solstice1 het volgende:
Die lennutrajektoor is pro-Oekrane gok ik?
Heel erg pro-Oekrane.
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 12:43:36 #6
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lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 07:48:47 #Tymchuk Last night #ATO executed well planned plan & liberated town #Konstantinovka. It's under full ATO ctrl. #Ukraine reageer retweet
Konstantinovka


Het vreemde is dat Konstantinovka gisteren ook al was ontdaan van rebellen (zie post 2). Er is weinig nieuws van het front.

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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 12:58:20 #7
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Dit blijft toch moeilijk te accepteren.
EuromaidanPR twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 21:15:46 Give up #Crimea ? From the owner of @KyivPost WTF!!! How #Ukraine Can Begin to Move Forward http://t.co/MosN7noHWm via @HuffPostUK |EMPR reageer retweet
Daar mag best een paar korrels zout bij.
EuromaidanPR twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 22:00:11 National Security Defense Council: the border on #Ukrainian side is fully controlled by the army, border guards http://t.co/lzMMrXb9Lw |EMPR reageer retweet
Grens controle posten (bcp) vannacht beschoten
EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 08:44:33 No losses on #ATO side last night. Checkpoints near Illinka, Marynivka, Dyakove, Dolzhansky bcp under fire, #Tymchuk FB |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 09:18:47 8 border guards injured as a result of shelling in Kolesnykivka, #Lugansk region https://t.co/A41wTfMVii |EMPR http://t.co/uZw8hZaopO reageer retweet
Kolesnykivk

EuromaidanPR twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 08:22:43 Today attack on the City Council of #Artemovsk battalion Artemovsk no casualties http://t.co/K37ZlGrqs1 |EMPR #Ukraine reageer retweet


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Heel erg pro-Oekrane.
Dat dacht ik al, dank je.
  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 13:41:49 #9
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Gisteren


maxseddon twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 20:13:10 Madcap MP Oleh Lyashko made the Slavyansk city council chair write a resignation statement "to the Ukrainian people." http://t.co/tK37Uq0oYF reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op maandag 07-07-2014 om 23:10:21 This is why, I refuse extremist politicians to be part of the ATO in eastern #Ukraine!https://t.co/wUN600usmQ Oleh Lyashko play warlord... reageer retweet
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RutheniaRus twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 11:18:57 99% arms/ammo terrorists left in #Slavyank taken from #Ukrainian Army's depot in Crimea. GRAD, Т-64B from 18 and 205 brigades #Russia - NSDC reageer retweet
RutheniaRus twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 12:03:52 Several explosions of railway in Yasynuvata, 30 min from #Donetsk yesterday 21.30. #Ukrainehttp://t.co/cpBbFjCRWi http://t.co/xp8DL62S1z reageer retweet
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 15:31:41 #11
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Separatists Kidnap Mine Directors in Donetsk

Novosti Donbassa reports that the mayor of Donetsk, Oleksandr Lukyanchenko, announced at a press conference today that militants from the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic have kidnapped the directors of two mines.

The directors of the A.A. Skochinsky and the Kalinina mines were abducted this morning from their places of work. After the press conference Lukyanchenko said that talks were under way to secure their release.

The article names the director of the Skochinsky mine as Varlam Valerianovich Miminoshvili.
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 15:32:00 #12
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 15:25:39 #BreakingWhat?! Petro #Poroshenko is preparing a plan, which will be "an unpleasant surprise for the terrorists". - NSDC spox reageer retweet
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President Poroshenko approves Donbas liberation plan

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

"The President of Ukraine, Supreme Commander-in-Chief Petro Poroshenko very thoroughly approved a plan that fully provides all phases of the liberation of our land from those people who are destabilizing the situation out there," Koval said.

He noted that there are also plans to liberate Donetsk and Luhansk.
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Medvedchuk won't be present at tripartite talks anymore

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

Viktor Medvedchuk will no longer attend the negotiations of the so-called tripartite contact group to resolve the situation in eastern Ukraine, a source close to the negotiation process told Ukrinform on Tuesday.

According to the source, ex-president Leonid Kuchma will continue to participate in the negotiations.
A reminder that Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council (NSDC) Andriy Parubiy called Medvedchuk a criminal who in recent years has helped terrorists. Putin's godfather, in turn, demanded a meeting of the NSDC and that Parubiy refute his remarks.
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Avakov: Power supply restored in Sloviansk

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

"Power supply of part of Sloviansk started at 15.00," he said, adding that water will appear there in three days after the resumption of power supply as it is due to the peculiarities of the process. Since we have a situation with mining, we are moving very carefully," Avakov said.
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Lithuania ratifies AA with Ukraine

KYIV, July 8 /Ukrinform/.

The Lithuanian parliament at its meeting on Tuesday ratified the association agreements between Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova and the European Union.

The first EU country to ratify the Association Agreement between the EU and these three countries became Romania. The ratification took place on July 2. The same day, Moldova ratified its agreement with the EU.
myroslavapetsa twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 13:51:14 #Ukraine's Justice Ministry wants Communist Party, which MPs backed separatism in the East and #Crimea, banned. reageer retweet


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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 17:49:40 #14
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Kiev bereidt offensief Donetsk voor

dinsdag 8 jul 2014, 17:02 (Update: 08-07-14, 17:19)

In de aanloop naar een offensief tegen de rebellen in Donetsk heeft de Oekraense president Porosjenko een nieuwe stafchef benoemd die de militaire operatie in Oost-Oekrane moet cordineren.

Onlangs verving Porosjenko al de minister van Defensie door een daadkrachtige generaal die voor succes moet zorgen in de strijd tegen de opstandelingen.

Afgelopen weekend boekte het Oekraense regeringsleger een grote overwinning met de herovering van het rebellenbolwerk Slavjansk.

Campagne
Het leger bereidt zich nu voor op de herovering van de twee resterende grote steden waar de pro-Russische separatisten het al maandenlang voor het zeggen hebben, Donetsk en Loegansk.

Zeker voor de inname van Donetsk, een stad met 900.000 inwoners, zal een lange militaire campagne nodig zijn, denkt correspondent David Jan Godfroid. Waarschijnlijk zullen Oekraense militairen de stad omsingelen om de rebellen van de buitenwereld af te sluiten.

De burgemeester van Donetsk heeft president Porosjenko gevraagd geen luchtaanvallen of zwaar artillerievuur te gebruiken bij het offensief. "Het is onmogelijk om alle 900.000 inwoners te evacueren, waar moeten ze heen?", schrijft de burgemeester op zijn website.

Verdediging
Ook de honderden opstandelingen die Slavjansk zijn ontvlucht, houden zich op in Donetsk. De rebellen in die stad hebben ook een nieuwe bevelhebber aangewezen die de verdediging van Donetsk moet leiden.

Twee bruggen buiten de stad hebben ze al opgeblazen om de opmars van het leger te bemoeilijken.

De opstandelingen verwijten de Russische president Poetin dat hij hen niet te hulp schiet. Moskou staat onder zware druk vanuit het Westen om zich niet langer actief te bemoeien met de crisis in Oekrane, op straffe van verdergaande sancties.

Wapenstilstand
President Porosjenko heeft een nieuw eenzijdig bestand in Oost-Oekrane uitgesloten. Maar hij zou wel met een internationale contactgroep en de separatisten willen overleggen over een staakt-het-vuren. Dat zou moeten plaatsvinden in een stadje nabij Donetsk.
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'Lugansk People's Republic' Leader Claims Control of Izvarino Border Crossing


Valery Bolotov, the leader of the self-declared Lugansk People's Republic (LNR), has stated at a press conference today that his separatist forces are in control of the Izvarino area and the section of the Russo-Ukrainian border it lies on.

He claimed that LNR forces had succeeded in pushing back Ukrainian forces from Lugansk, noting that "some sections of the front line have moved in our favour."

He also claimed that the LNR militia had acquired significant military hardware, though did not specify where from (though their claim to control a border crossing certainly suggests Russian imports).

Bolotov said that his forces now had "armoured vehicles and artillery systems" including Grad rocket launchers, howitzers, anti-aircraft systems and mortars.

He also claimed that while the LNR was prepared for peace talks, they would only do so under their own terms, accusing the Ukrainian government of using the ceasefire to concentrate their forces.

vsyo twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 17:50:26 @MiddleEast_BRK A Ukrainain commander in Donetsk is arrested for transferring a large weapons arsenal to rebels http://t.co/tOVzoat46T reageer retweet


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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 21:51:34 #16
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Zeker de Britten stellen zich harder op tegen Rusland.
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Poroshenko Calls for UK and Italy to Join 'Normandy Four' Group

Commenting on President Poroshenko's discussions with the Italian foreign minister, Federica Mogherini, the Ukrainian president's press service said:

"The president praised the efforts of Germany and France, which allowed the formation of the so-called "Normandy four" [Ukraine, Russia, Germany and France] with the participation of Russia. Still, according to him, the international influence could be much stronger if Italy and Britain joined France and Germany."
Ik vind wel dat ze een aantal karakteristieke beelden van Lenin moeten laten staan. Als de Taliban historische Boeddha beelden opblaast vinden we dat ook zonde.
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Two More Lenin Statues Fall Overnight

Two statues of Lenin were toppled last night in Ukraine.

One of the statues was torn down in the village of Chervona Sloboda in the northern Sumy region.
Interfax-Ukraine reports that the Ukrainian Communist Party has confirmed the removal of the statue and is pursuing criminal charges:

"Law enforcers have established that vandals damaged the monument by having it pulled down from the pedestal by a tractor and a tow," the statement said.

Another statue was torn down in the town of Bilozerka in the southern Kherson region. Tired of waiting for the authorities' decision, Ukrainian activists came to Bilozerka and dismantled the monument to Lenin by themselves. The police did not interfere with the will of the people.

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Is het zo rustig geworden in deze reeks? Worden de trollen ook niet meer door Rusland gesteund?

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Russische kater na Krim-annexatie: economie op de rand van recessie

Gewone Russen op de Krim beginnen de economische gevolgen van de Russische annexatie langzamerhand te voelen. De Russische regering is van plan om miljarden uit te trekken om het schiereiland weer op de been te helpen. Ook het toerisme op de Krim kent een enorme terugval.
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Russische economie op rand van recessie
Internationale sancties die gelinkt zijn aan de annexatie (die door de meeste VN-lidstaten veroordeeld werd) en aan de steun die Rusland geeft aan de rebellen in het oosten van Oekrane, eisen ook hun tol van de Russische economie. Die staat op de rand van een recessie.
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De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Worden de trollen ook niet meer door Rusland gesteund?
:D
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Ukraine threatens rebels with 'nasty surprise' in new push

Security officials in Kiev gave away nothing about their military plans. But a spokesman for the "anti-terrorist operation", Andriy Lysenko, said:
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There is a plan ... under which we will be able to liberate these towns (Donetsk and Luhansk). We are not publicising details of this plan. It should be a nasty surprise for the terrorists.
At a meeting on Monday with Poroshenko, Donetsk mayor Olexander Lukyanchenko urged him not use air strikes or heavy artillery to crush the rebels.
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We have a population in the town now of more than 900,000 people minus those who have left. It's impossible to evacuate them and there is nowhere for them to go. Their security must be guaranteed via negotiations at all levels.
Ukraine's richest man, coal-and-steel magnate Rinat Akhmetov, made a similar appeal on Monday.

Since hundreds of rebels flooded into the city at the weekend, armed men have been out on the streets, setting up new barricades and checkpoints. Borodai brushed off suggestions that Slaviansk had been a defeat, portraying it as a successful tactical withdrawal, though Kiev says the rebels sustained heavy losses.

Borodai, who also scoffed at talk of Kiev having resources to blockade Donetsk and Luhansk, said Igor Strelkov, a Muscovite who commanded forces in Slaviansk, would take over as commander-in-chief for defending Donetsk.

But another rebel commander, Aleksander Khodakovsky of the so-called Vostok battalion - or eastern battalion - whose fighters also occupy positions in Donetsk was critical of the decision to pull out of Slaviansk.
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Frankly speaking, we didn't believe them when we got phone calls saying they were leaving Slaviansk. I hope Strelkov did not come here in order to go away. There will not be one single commander here ... because if Mr Strelkov suddenly chooses to leave Donetsk, with the aim of preserving the lives of the people of Donetsk and the lives of the volunteers, then we will not follow his order.
Though Borodai said he had been in "consultations" in Russia, many rebels now reproach President Vladimir Putin's administration in Moscow, which is under threat from further Western sanctions, for giving them too little help.

The Ukrainian army's victory in Slaviansk has pushed peace talks involving separatist leaders off the agenda. But Donetsk's mayor, Lukyanchenko, said Poroshenko on Monday had proposed that a further round of talks, involving the so-called "contact group" and the separatists, should be held in the town of Svyatohirsk, north-east of Donetsk, which is the site of a 15th century Orthodox monastery.
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Zeker de Britten stellen zich harder op tegen Rusland.

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Ik vind wel dat ze een aantal karakteristieke beelden van Lenin moeten laten staan. Als de Taliban historische Boeddha beelden opblaast vinden we dat ook zonde.

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Het is weer duidelijk dat de multinationale graaiers achter deze contra-revolutie zitten, want Lenin moet het ontgelden.
Oekraine wordt een staat geheel voor de rijken en de armen kunnen het leplazerus krijgen, net als in de rest van de E.U. :( Oekraine laat meer en meer haar fascistische gezicht zien en dat is geen prettig gezicht.
Geen worden dat nazi van Balen van de nazi-partij VVD zo verheugd is met deze contra-revolutie. :r
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Wie herinnert zich Luhanskaya & Kandrashevka nog?

A Day in Luhansk: War’s Crimes, Horrors, and Uncertainties

Het leger gaf toe zij de luchtaanval hadden uitgevoerd waarbij door een vergissing burgerdoelen geraakt zijn. De enige keer, want liever schuiven ze de schuld op de rebellen af.

Er zijn ook herhaaldelijk berichten over het gebruikt van 'Grad multiple rocket launcher system' door de rebellen, zonder dat er beelden zijn van schade. De volgende video heb ik meerdere malen voorbij zien komen (zelfs meerdere malen bij dezelfde tweeter.)
lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 00:26:02 Video: July 7, #Luhansk, #RUS terrorists in the city centre shell w GRAD. #Ukraine https://t.co/YRWdk3gDMn reageer retweet

Daarmee creeren alvast de opties om latere slachtoffers daarmee te verklaren. De russen zien de bui al hangen een melden:
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Lugansk militia seize Grad multiple rocket launcher system

LUGANSK, July 07. /ITAR-TASS/.

People’s militia in the eastern Ukrainian city of Lugansk have managed to seize one of the three Grad multiple rocket launcher systems used to pound the city on Monday, eyewitnesses say, noting that these are early reports.

The launcher “only slightly damaged”, was moved to a city neighbourhood and “militiamen are painting over Ukrainian military marking” an Itar-Tass source has said. There have been no comments from the people’s militia headquarters as of yet.
Zodat ze kunnen ontkennen dat de Grad systemen via de grens met Rusland het land binnen gekomen zijn.

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Lugansk Republic’s self-defence forces seize town on border with Donetsk region

LUGANSK, July 08. /ITAR-TASS/.

Self-defense forces of the self-proclaimed unrecognized Lugansk People’s Republic seized the town of Popasnaya on the border with the Donetsk region, Novorossiya news agency said.

It said several hundred self-defense fighters had arrived in the town overnight to Monday. The agency said there were no Ukrainian Army servicemen there.

Popasnaya is located 30 km away from the city of Artemovsk and 20 km away from the township of Stakhanov where a “reserve staff’ of the Lugansk People’s Republic leader Valery Bolotov is being set up.

It has a population of about 20,000 people and has an important railway junction.
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Het is weer duidelijk dat de multinationale graaiers achter deze contra-revolutie zitten, want Lenin moet het ontgelden.
Justice Ministry launches process to ban Communist Party of Ukraine

The Ukrainian Justice Ministry has asked Kyiv's District Administrative Court to ban the activity of the Communist Party of Ukraine.
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As a result of a large amount of evidence regarding illegal activities and illegal actions on the part of the Communist Party, I have made the decision, signed and sent it to the District Administrative Court regarding the liquidation of the Communist Party
Justice Minister Pavlo Petrenko said at a briefing on Tuesday.
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Deelnemer, waarvandaan jouw interesse in Oekraine en afwezigheid in de Irak, Syrie en Israel-Palestijn topics?
  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 23:45:32 #25
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Up to 50 people killed in Kramatorsk during ATO - city council

Twenty-two people still remain hospitalized in Kramatorsk after being injured as a result of an anti-terrorist operation (ATO) conducted by Ukrainian government forces, the city council said on Tuesday.

"As a result of the ATO (Anti-Terrorist Operation) 142 injured people went through hospitals in Kramatorsk. Twenty-two of them are still in hospital," head of the City Health Care Department Ihor Mykhailov was quoted as saying.

Roughly, up to 50 people have been killed, 80% of them civilians, he said.

"As for those killed, only forensic experts, police and prosecutors can know the exact figure," Mykhailov said.
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  dinsdag 8 juli 2014 @ 23:53:56 #26
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Deelnemer, waarvandaan jouw interesse in Oekraine en afwezigheid in de Irak, Syrie en Israel-Palestijn topics?
Heb je niets geleerd van de Edward Snowden leaks? Dit is dezelfde vraag die ze Glenn Greenwald stelden: Waarom hou je je ook niet bezig met Ukraine? En met Wit-Rusland? :D
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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Deelnemer, waarvandaan jouw interesse in Oekraine en afwezigheid in de Irak, Syrie en Israel-Palestijn topics?
Zoveel tijd heb ik niet. Ik wilde eens kijken in hoeverre je de ontwikkelingen kan volgen, gebruikmakend van de hetgeen thuis mbv het internet eenvoudig beschikbaar is. Oekraine is een redelijk goed afgebakend onderwerp, en het maakt deel uit van het Europese continent.
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Heb je niets geleerd van de Edward Snowden leaks? Dit is dezelfde vraag die ze Glenn Greenwald stelden: Waarom hou je je ook niet bezig met Ukraine? En met Wit-Rusland? :D
Om eerlijk te zijn niet. Tijd lang mezelf afgesloten van nieuws en politiek. Heb dus geen idee wat je hier zegt :D.

Iig, viel op me op dat deelnemer (met zijn updates en meningen) jammer genoeg niet in de door mij genoemde topics te vinden is, terwijl ook die situaties niet onbelangrijk zijn in het geheel, toch?
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Zoveel tijd heb ik niet. Ik wilde eens kijken in hoeverre je de ontwikkelingen kan volgen, gebruikmakend van de hetgeen thuis mbv het internet eenvoudig beschikbaar is. Oekraine is een redelijk goed afgebakend onderwerp, en het maakt deel uit van het Europese continent.
Duidelijk.
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Om eerlijk te zijn niet. Tijd lang mezelf afgesloten van nieuws en politiek. Heb dus geen idee wat je hier zegt :D.
NWS / Monitoring NSA in de VS en erbuiten, deel 8 :D
On the Meaning of Journalistic Independence
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Iig, viel op me op dat deelnemer (met zijn updates en meningen) jammer genoeg niet in de door mij genoemde topics te vinden is, terwijl ook die situaties niet onbelangrijk zijn in het geheel, toch?
Welk geheel? Alle revoluties op de wereld? Dat is een hoop om te coveren, hoor.
Free Assange! Hack the Planet
[b]Op dinsdag 6 januari 2009 19:59 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:[/b]
De gevolgen van de argumenten van de anti-rook maffia
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De rebellen

Journaliste van ANNA News omgekomen toen de rebellen Slaviansk verlieten.

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Death correspondent Oksana Skoda in Slavyansk

The journalist Oksana Skoda died when departure militias from Slavyansk, said the militia Donetsk National Republic.

"According to the data received from Slavyansk Disappeared Journalist Oksana Skoda died ", - said in the video, posted by the channel Anna News."

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According to the source, they went out just before the entrance to the city of the Ukrainian army. However, their convoy was attacked by Ukrainian law-enforcers.
Strelkov o.a. over de mogelijkheden om lokale mensen te werven voor de strijd.
(Zet de Russische ondertiteling aan en laat deze vertalen in het Nederlands.)
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Reuters

Igor Strelkov, a Russian from Moscow who is now the main rebel commander in the city, appeared to be disappointed at the number of volunteers coming forward for the rebels.

He told local rebel TV station that from July volunteers would be offered a monthly pay of 5,000-8,000 hryvnia ($430 to $690) to fight.

"Maybe this will help those people who are hesitating to find the strength in themselves and join the ranks," he said.
lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 23:15:24 Tomorrow #ATO soldier gets first salary, 1600 UAH. It's 100. (No joke) reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 20:42:52 #Girkin aka #Strelok promised to pay its mercenaries 5000 - 8000 UAH per month. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
Nog wat briefings van Strelkov (en anderen).
DPR and LPR Militia Briefings, July 6, 2014

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Hier beschuldigen ze elkaar van het gebruik van Grad systems (zie post 21)
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 00:05:20 Another video of the Russian invaders #Grad rocket attack vs. Ukrainian villages near #Luhansk on Monday. https://t.co/XhZtAA1urP #Ukraine reageer retweet
En de beschrijving bij de vid. luidt:
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Ukrainian military firing rocket system BM-21 "Grad" on mine residents.
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  woensdag 9 juli 2014 @ 10:32:06 #35
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#FreePalestine #FreeBahrain
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Het is triest.

De minister van defensie vertelt dat er geen infrastructuur geraak is, terwijl wij de beelden zien van de ruines. Kiev kletst over het probleem van burgerslachtoffers heen.

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Hier interviewt men een 'deskundige'. Hij vraag zich af "whether Kiev has the resources to take on a city as large as Donetsk is". Dat is de vraag, want we weten al dat de nadelen voor de bevolking Kiev en de VS niet interesseert. Hij framed het zo, dat alle aandacht uitgaat naar 1 handelende partij (Kiev). Zo merkt hij niet op, dat de ellende over is als de rebellen hun wapens neerleggen en vertrekken. De interviewer vraagt vervolgens niet hoe je dan wel een stad zuivert van rebellen, zonder de bevolking kapot te maken (Grozny?). Rebellen die in het tweede deel van het filmpje de grens controlepost Dolzhansky aanvallen (aka vredelievende protestanten, zie 3 mnd geleden).



paulgypteau twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 10:00:07 A pro-Russian rebel from the Vostok Battalion manning a checkpoint in #Donetsk http://t.co/hCSQcWPl7N reageer retweet
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De rebellen
Aanvulling op post 32.

Donetsk people’s republic creating contract army, preparing for defense

DONETSK, July 09. /ITAR-TASS/.

Ukrainian army is destroying the infrastructure of cities in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic deliberately in an offensive operation, leaving local residents jobless, Defense Minister of the DPR Igor Strelkov said in an interview with the First Republican TV Channel on Wednesday.

Strelkov believed that Donetsk was not prepared for defense yet.
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No defensive measures are taken yet. The city is currently prepared for defense at the level Sloviansk was ready two months ago. So, defensive reinforcements can stop armored personnel carriers and some kind of national guards and interior troops. The city can defend itself from armored columns of the enemy with major difficulties. But we are taking urgent measures so that Donetsk will be ready for battle.
He is convinced that Ukrainian law enforcement agencies had chosen the tactics of destroying the infrastructure and industrial enterprises.
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Sloviansk and Kramatorsk suffered an attack on militia’s positions and even city quarters, plants and industrial enterprises. There were neither roadblocks nor even checkpoints, however, artillery guns were pounding them constantly and massively.

They wanted to destroy the infrastructure as strongly as possible. Leave people jobless, without residence and all other belongings. To resolve the task of forcing people to flee, leave them without means of living even after combat actions are over. I believe that incumbent Ukrainian top state and military officials will not stop to do the same with Donetsk
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He also noted the need to take mobilization measures and arm militias.
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We cannot fight at half-strength. We cannot hope that somehow with small forces and with small means someone will be able to protect the republic. Serious mobilization measures are needed.

Unfortunately, resources for this, primarily weapons and ammunition were not prepared. There are none of them now. However, we would be able to arm, outfit and train several thousand volunteers, just slightly in the least. For a brief period of time. I believe that 80 thousand people would be enough to stop Ukrainian army.

Everything is still bad in our rear. We will be fighting and will stop them, but it will be very difficult to win in defense without more active participation of local residents of Donbass [the main Ukrainian coalmining region].

Starting from this month militias will be paid quite serious sums in local conditions from five to eight thousand hryvnias (from 15 to 23.5 thousand rubles) and we plan to introduce this pay from July. May be this will help people who hesitate now, cannot decide to join the ranks of militia. So, we will be creating a contract army.


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Rusland wast zijn handen in onschuld. Ik wist niet dat ze dit nog deden, de media optrommelen om naar een grenspost te kijken. Vanuit het idee dat je op iedere moment aan een checkpoint kan zien of er wapens langs gekomen zijn. Wel een duidelijke indicatie dat Rusland zich niet zal bemoeien met met de verdere afhandeling.

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No weapons brought across Russian-Ukrainian border during conflict

ROSTOV-ON-DON, July 9./ITAR-TASS/.

Since the beginning of the conflict, Russian border guards have detected no cases of transfer of arms, ammunition and military equipment across the border," a spokesman for the Border Guard Department of the Russian Federal Security Service, Leonid Smyk, told reporters on Wednesday.
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Foreign media reports shown damaged Russian border-crossing point to Ukraine

Foreign media representatives arrived in the Rostov Region in southern Russia on an initiative of the association of foreign correspondents accredited in Moscow to clarify the situation in regions bordering Ukraine.

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The example of Crimea - a region that did not recognize the authorities imposed during a coup in Ukraine in February and seceded from the country to accede to Russia in March - apparently inspired residents of Ukraine’s Southeast, who supported the country’s federalization. The residents started massive protests and formed militias.

The Donetsk and Luhansk regions bordering Russia held referendums on May 11, in which most voters supported independence from Ukraine. South Ossetia has recognized the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic and the Luhansk People's Republic. No other countries have followed suit so far.

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Dit zou een Russisch konvooi in de regio Belgorod zijn:

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  woensdag 9 juli 2014 @ 21:25:46 #42
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Rusland houdt Oekraense piloot vast

Oekrane beschuldigt Rusland van ontvoering van een Oekraense vrouwelijke helikopterpiloot. De vrouw, Nadia Savtsjenko, zit in een Russische gevangenis.


Ze is aangeklaagd voor betrokkenheid bij de dood van twee Russische verslaggevers. Oekrane eist haar vrijlating.

De vrouw was betrokken bij grondgevechten tegen pro-Russische separatisten bij de Oekraense stad Loehansk.

De Oekraense president Petro Porosjenko laat onderzoeken hoe de vrouw in Rusland is terechtgekomen. Porosjenko denkt dat ze is ontvoerd.

Het Russische persbureau ITAR-TASS meldt dat de vrouw als ''vluchteling'' de grens over is gekomen. Maar volgens het Oekraense ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken is ze waarschijnlijk gevangengenomen door de separatisten en de grens over gesmokkeld.

Wandaden
''Dit is nog meer bevestiging dat de terroristen hun plannen maken en wandaden plegen in nauwe samenwerking met de Russische inlichtingendiensten'', aldus de verklaring.

''Door openlijk inwoners van Oekrane te ontvoeren op het grondgebied van hun eigen land, schenden de Russische autoriteiten niet alleen alle internationale normen, maar gaan ze ook voorbij aan morele en fatsoensnormen.''
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  woensdag 9 juli 2014 @ 21:27:41 #43
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Een ontruiming Maidan lijkt aanstaande.

EuromaidanPR twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 16:37:04 Mykola #Bondar, the Ataman of #Ukraine Cossacks army called to #Yarema,SBU Head to stop policy against #Maidan |EMPR http://t.co/elUh4Jt63K reageer retweet
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Prosecutor general says force an option when restoring order in Kyiv center

Ukraine's Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema has said he does not rule out the use of force if the residents of the tent camp on Independence Square and activists who remain in administrative buildings in the center of Kyiv offer armed resistance to law enforcement agencies during their eviction from the occupied territories.

Yarema said that according to latest reports, 19 government buildings remained captured in Kyiv.
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Klitschko against dispersal of Maidan by force

Kyiv Mayor and Head of Kyiv City State Administration Vitali Klitschko reiterated that he is against the dispersal of remaining Maidan activists by force.

"The dispersal of the Maidan using force would be an emergency measure. I'm not contemplating this and have never contemplated it," he told the journalists on Wednesday.

As earlier reported, Ukraine's Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema has said he does not rule out the use of force if the residents of the tent camp on Independence Square and activists who remain in administrative buildings in the center of Kyiv offer armed resistance to law enforcement agencies during their eviction from the occupied buildings.


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Lugansk

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Separatists Using Tanks and Grad Rockets in Airport Attack

Over the course of the day, militants have been mounting a massive assault on Lugansk airport, which is under the control of Ukrainian security forces.

This was reported to Ukrainska Pravda by one of the soldiers at the airport.

"A massive attack is under way," he said.

"The afternoon brought shelling from two tanks and mortars. This was at 1 pm and 3 pm on Tuesday," said the source in the ATO to Ukrainska Pravda.

"There was a report that 2 BM-21 Grad launchers were on the move," said the source.

Meanwhile, Ukrainska Pravda's source at the airport, when asked if the militants were using Grad launchers against them as of 17:20 [14:20 GMT], replied:

"They're using everything. There is no air support."

As of 17:30, it was revealed that the Ukrainian air force had struck the militants.
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Ukraine’s army concentrate troops, hardware north of Luhansk

LUHANSK, July 09. /ITAR-TASS/.

The press service of the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Luhansk (PRL) said on Wednesday:

"Ukraine’s army is pulling troops and hardware to the city of Luhansk,

About 150 armored vehicles, including armored personnel carriers, tanks and self-propelled mounts, as well as six Grad multiple rocket launchers, have been concentrated to the north of Luhansk, .

LPR army destroyed “one armored personnel carrier and three trucks supposedly delivering weapons” over the past 24 hours. The aggressor has lost about 50 men killed and wounded.
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Two militants' Grad rocket launchers destroyed by ATO forces

KYIV, July 9 /Ukrinform/.

Near the village of Dmytrivka on July 9 the Ukrainian military destroyed two Grad multiple rocket launchers, belonging to militants, spokesman for the anti-terrorist operation (ATO) Vladyslav Selezniov wrote on his Facebook page on Wednesday.

"At 11.55 near the village of Dmytrivka the compounded battery of 2S3 [152.4 mm self-propelled artillery system “Akatsiya” - ed.] of a mechanized brigade made an aimed artillery strike on particular rebel positions. As a result of the effective action two BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launchers of the militants were destroyed," he said.
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Two killed, six wounded as Ukraine’s military shells east Ukraine’s Luhansk

LUHANSK, July 09./ITAR-TASS/.

At least two people were killed and six others wounded as Ukraine’s military shelled east Ukraine’s embattled Luhansk, the press office of the city’s council said on Wednesday. The Ukrainian military fired a total of 13 artillery shells, damaging buildings and infrastructure facilities in the cities, the press office said.


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Ukraine seeks to ban Communist Party
http://articles.economict(...)ukrainian-parliament

Erg democratisch. :')

En dit is onzin:
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and has never seriously challenged for the presidency.
Anti-Turkije
  woensdag 9 juli 2014 @ 22:14:17 #46
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  woensdag 9 juli 2014 @ 22:58:22 #47
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I want to live a hundred years
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Ukraine seeks to ban Communist Party
http://articles.economict(...)ukrainian-parliament

Erg democratisch. :')

En dit is onzin:

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ach communistische partij is toch een instrument van Rusland , ik snap het wel
Er gaat niets boven lekker in de zon zitten in de achtertuin met een heel koud glas bier , als je al 72 jaar bent en nog gezond, laat ze maar lachen de sukkels
  donderdag 10 juli 2014 @ 00:00:41 #48
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A series of videos reportedly show a convoy of Ukrainian armor moving through the town of Mariupol. Some of the reports suggest that the convoy is headed toward Donetsk.
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 15:53:18 Reports say the Ukr. army had to shoot in the air as some people in #Mariupol were outraged by the passage of up to 100 Ukr army vehicles. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 15:55:11 Some people cheered and waved the passing troops, some showed their fists, others even jumped on the streets and insulted the soldiers. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 23:26:21 Another video from this evening shows endless Ukr. army convoy "30 km from #Donetsk city". https://t.co/u8vCQzBS7d #Ukraine reageer retweet
HarrietSalem twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 22:19:08 As sun sets on #Donetsk #Ukraine forces advance. Multiple rocket launchers & T84 tanks now 15km south of city http://t.co/MNWs4iR9nZ reageer retweet


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7s.gif Op woensdag 9 juli 2014 22:13 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
Ukraine seeks to ban Communist Party
http://articles.economict(...)ukrainian-parliament

Erg democratisch. :')

En dit is onzin:

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Mwah, alsof er in de periode Kuchma ooit chte verkiezingen zijn gehouden ...
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 11:08:36 Nadiya Savchenko fought with the National Guard #Battalion_Aidar in #Luhansk and was taken #POW on June, 18th. http://t.co/cKPnNZuMrC reageer retweet
Dat was de beruchte hinderlaag
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Wat separatisten pesten.

ReutersWorld twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 22:03:57 #BREAKING: European Union governments add 11 new names to Ukraine sanctions list: diplomat reageer retweet
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EU Sanctions 9 Separatists And 2 Russians Over Ukraine Crisis

The European Union agreed to add 11 new names on Wednesday to the list of persons targeted with asset freezes and travel bans over the Ukraine crisis and the sanctions are likely to take effect on Saturday, an EU diplomat said on Wednesday.

"The list consists mainly of Ukrainian separatists; there may be one or two Russians there as well," the diplomat said after a meeting of EU ambassadors that addressed the issue.
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7s.gif Op woensdag 9 juli 2014 22:13 schreef SadPanda het volgende:
Ukraine seeks to ban Communist Party
http://articles.economict(...)ukrainian-parliament

Erg democratisch. :')

En dit is onzin:

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Je hebt niets te zeggen over democratie, je houdt zelf van assad en poetin.
Exponentile deflatie van Bitcoin maakt arme mensen nog veel sneller armer dan het grote probleem van inflatie. Gematigde burning van Ethereum is de gulden middenweg.
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Zie vanaf 1:00 minuut. Bevat een korte nare scene aan het begin (een dood lichaam in verval).
lennutrajektoor twitterde op dinsdag 08-07-2014 om 23:10:20 From all fr #Slaviansk fled terrorists only 40 was killed. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 11:49:20 #BreakingFootage Ukrainian terrorist leader Pavel Gubarev greets new volunteers from #Moscow. via @NikolayHort http://t.co/NqXCZcoWT0 reageer retweet


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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 08:26:51 #Breaking Rus militants switch to guerrilla tactics in #Donbas. Two mine, one mortar, one small arms attack kill 3 Ukr troops, injure 12. reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 06:22:43 Tymchuk: very tense situation in Donbas #Ukraine. (pro) RU forces are laying mines which killed 2 UA servicemen, wounded 11 & blew up 2 APCs reageer retweet
Waarschuwing: de belangen zijn nu zo groot, dat info onbetrouwbaar is.
MorbidYoung twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 22:50:31 Girkin gave #Donetsk mayor Lukyanchenko 24h 2 decide wich side he's joining. Or he's taking oath 2 DPR or moving 2 cellar @lennutrajektoor reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 02:21:24 DNR press serv: there's an armed standoff between 2 (pro) RU groups: Battalion Vostok & Strelkov's men in E. #Ukraine http://t.co/CmV8hBbSK0 reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 09:15:13 Rumour has it battalion "#Vostok" asked #Girkin aka #Strelok to F himself & left #Donetsk to #Makeevka. Who going Girkin to lead now? #ATO reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 08:07:43 Reports of Russian paramilitaries planning to land dozens of boats along #Ukraine's coast on the Sea of Azov/Mariupol to launch attacks reageer retweet
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DMITRY TYMCHUK: Russian tactical groups near Chernihiv and Kharkiv

According to Information Resistance operational data, in the past 24 hours two tactical battalion groups were deployed to border districts of Russia near the border with Ukraine in addition to Russian troops already deployed there.

One of them is towards the direction of Chernihiv [a city 2 hours away from Kyiv by car], another is in a direction towards Kharkiv [close to Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts].

Earlier, according to our data, a convoy of military equipment arrived in Kursk Oblast (Russia). Some of the equipment bears the symbols of the Russian “peacekeeping forces.” The convoy was registered at a distance of about 25 km from the state border with Ukraine in the direction of Glukhiv (Sumy Oblast, Ukraine).

According to preliminary data, the convoy is formed from units of the 15th Separate Guards Motorized Brigade of the Central Military District [CMD] of the Armed Forces of Russia. This brigade was involved in a random inspection of the CMD troops in late June and rehearsed undertaking a peacekeeping operation.


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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 09:23:13 #TollUpdate 30 Ukrainian troops were killed and injured in Russian militant attacks during the last 24 hours. This figure includes 3 KIA. reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 09:17:49 Terrorists fired at Dovzhansky BCP with mortars, used snipers. 5military injured, #Tymchuk https://t.co/yDjgwcnzA5 |EMPR reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 09:47:03 Heavy Ukrainian army equipment on a train near the northern Ukr city of #Sumy, close to Russia's #Kursk oblast. http://t.co/NEdQT8oD8R reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 10:34:43 #BreakingNews The Ukrainian army seems trying to recapture #Severodonetsk in #Luhansk obl.Heavy fighting and fires.https://t.co/rCgeASc13Q reageer retweet


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RutheniaRus twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 11:35:28 Amid multiple railway explosions, SBU detained a group of terrorists going to blow up #Zaporizhya HPP. http://t.co/U3ZKGT6DNC reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 07:50:24 #BreakingFootage Ukr. intelligence arrests another terrorist unit with Russian high tech bombs in #Zaporozhye obl.https://t.co/p5KuQxLUDX reageer retweet
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EuromaidanPR twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 15:49:04 #Poroshenko Signed a Law Criminalizing the Financing of Separatism http://t.co/aBndg8HRHq |EMPR #Ukraine #stopputin reageer retweet
Slaviansk
EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 00:24:52 Ppl in #Sloviansk came to the central square w their phones b/c there is no electricity in many districts @Sloviansk http://t.co/EW9rpG61RZ reageer retweet
Donetsk
EuromaidanPR twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 21:56:39 Terrorists seized #Donetsk police surveillance center- technically advanced, collects data from city's web cams http://t.co/MrKjsODF8f |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 02:27:50 BREAKING #Terrorists seized #Donetsk Police Center of rapid response @Dbnmjr | EMPR #Ukraine #russiainvadesukraine reageer retweet
Lugansk
lennutrajektoor twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 21:38:31 On July 9 to #Luhansk arrived 350 fresh #RUS terrorists & 12 trucks w munition. No surrender so far on sight. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet

EuromaidanPR twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 23:35:27 After battle in #Luhansk airport, 3 KAMAZs arrived to the local morgue&many wounded #terrorists came to the hospital https://t.co/xdXfsNmmxX reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 03:47:46 #Terrorists began shoot at #Luhansk airport from #Grad at 4am again | EMPR #Ukraine reageer retweet
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 09:23:13 #TollUpdate 30 Ukrainian troops were killed and injured in Russian militant attacks during the last 24 hours. This figure includes 3 KIA. reageer retweet
Interfax-Ukraine reports that the ATO press centre has announced that 3 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed and around 30 wounded in the last 24 hours.
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A Ural truck came under machinegun fire near the town of Muratove, Luhansk region, at around midnight, the report said. "The truck was ambushed. One serviceman was killed and three were injured," the press service reported.

It came under fire from an AGS-17 grenade launcher and automatic weapons at a roadblock in the Luhansk region after midnight. A militant was taken prisoner. The servicemen did not suffer any casualties.

The Ukrainian infantry engaged in a shootout with the militia near Siversk, Donetsk region, at about 1 a.m. Two mortar crews were destroyed. Two servicemen were wounded, and a tank was damaged, the press center said.

It confirmed that a BTR-80 infantry fighting vehicle was blown up near Chervona Zoria. Two servicemen died and six were wounded.

Mortar and automatic gunfire was opened on the town of Dolzhansky from the village of Biriukove on Wednesday night. "Seven servicemen were wounded. Two of them are in a serious condition. Four of the injured are border guards," the press center said.
Dmytro Tymchuk of Information Resistance went into more detail on several of the incidents on his Facebook page.

He writes (translated by The Interpreter):
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A BTR-80 of the ATO forces was blown up by a landmine near the village of Chervonaya Zarya (in the Donetsk region). 5 members of the security forces were injured.

In this same area a BMP-2 was blown up by another landmine. The ammunition inside the the combat vehicle was detonated. 2 servicemen were killed, 6 wounded.

In addition, terrorists carried out a mortar attack on the Dolzhansky border checkpoint. Militant snipers also attacked security forces. 5 servicemen were wounded.

A convoy of ATO forces was ambushed. 1 serviceman killed, 3 wounded.

Overnight, 5 ATO checkpoints at various points in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions were fired on. One security officer was injured.

The terrorists fired on ATO positions near the village of Metalist, close to Lugansk, with their BM-21 Grad MLRS. All of their rockets missed the positions. There were no casualties.
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:28:49 #BRK The Ukr health ministry says 1870 civilians were either killed or wounded in the war vs.Russian invaders so far.(479 killed, 1392 inj) reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:31:31 #BreakingNews 100 police men from #Poltava in central #Ukraine are taking over public security in #Kramatorsk as local pol can't be trusted. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:32:11 (Former) #Kramatorsk police men will be fired or relocated to central and western Ukrainian cities after individual investigations. reageer retweet
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:45:33 #BREAKINGNEWS Russian invaders in #Donetsk start major attack on the city's airport. Large troop movements: https://t.co/YwWSgC83x6 reageer retweet
StateOfUkraine twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 15:29:12 #Donetsk, convoy of military vehicles with Ossetian flags is heading to airport https://t.co/J1Y6Jf45J4 reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 15:04:00 #Breaking The #Donetsk city council asks residents in the vicinity of the airport to not leave their flats and avoid the windows. #FIGHTING! reageer retweet


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lennutrajektoor twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 12:24:14 In fear of encirclement terrorists left #Siversk. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:20:22 #BREAKINGNEWS UKRAINIAN TROOPS LIBERATED #SEVERSK in #DONETSK OBLAST. Several BM-21 destroyed, Russian invaders killed or fleeing reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:21:40 The town is of strategic impoartance as now #Lysychansk and #Severodonetsk are in hitting range. reageer retweet
RutheniaRus twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 12:44:37 #Severodonetsk: Russian TV arrived in 5 min after 82mm mortar shelling, ppl send it away.RT @krishtopa @s84ua http://t.co/F9jfQDRmy6 reageer retweet


Zie hieronder, bruine gebied, links boven


djp3tros twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:12:00 Seversk is freed. Some terrorists better run home now or surrender, or they will be cut off. http://t.co/taRfUVsGQO reageer retweet


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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 15:27:15 #BREAKING It looks like the entire mine in #Rovensky, #Donetsk oblast, blew up for some reason!!https://t.co/gWpygILXl0 reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 16:04:36 Residents call it an "air strike" that destroyed "mine 71" in #Rovenky. https://t.co/oSDPQlnnjr reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 19:02:06 #ATO July 10, #Rovenki, levelling #RUS terrorists' AA gun positions on top of quarry hills w serious air bombs. https://t.co/hfNJLx4rNb reageer retweet

Gisteren ook al een kolenmijn.
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The Airstrikes Against Coal Mine No. 21 (Pokrovka)

Host: Understood. What happened to day at the Coal Mine No. 21 at Pokrovka?

Igor Strelkov: A Su-25 aircraft attacked and fired eight rockets at what they thought to be the positions of one of our detachments. But it missed.

Host: Are there wounded, killed?

Igor Strelkov: No, there were no casualties. I told you, it missed.


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Karlivka

MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:26:22 Meanwhile heavy fighting goes on in #Karlivka, the last militant-held town west of #Donetsk. If it's taken,Donetsk airport will be free too. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 15:40:06 #BREAKINGNEWS THE UKRAINIAN ARMY TOOK #KARLIVKA AND IS NOW ONLY 20 KM FROM #DONETSK CITY reageer retweet


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HarrietSalem twitterde op woensdag 09-07-2014 om 19:16:52 #Ukraine troops mass 20km south of #Donetsk. Convoy of 100+ vehicles inc. tanks, artillery, & multi launch systems http://t.co/LzmVcZFE2R reageer retweet


vandaag

StateOfUkraine twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 15:46:19 Donetsk Republic PM: We have to evacuate. #Russia should be ready to accept several hundreds of thousands of refugees http://t.co/h1cJ5R8Lv9 reageer retweet
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Separatist Leaders Prepare To Evacuate Parts of Donetsk

RIA Novosti, a Russian state-operated news agency, has posted a story that says separatist leaders are preparing to evacuate parts of Donetsk in advance of the predicted Ukrainian military assault on the city (translated by The Interpreter):

DPR authorities were preparing a partial evacuation of "some districts of Donetsk," DPR Prime Mnister Aleksandr Boroday said at a briefing.

"We were forced to do this. Russia must prepare for several hundred thousand refugees. They practically all want to go to the Russian Federation," said Boroday.

According to him, the evacuation will be voluntary and it can begin in a few days.

Earlier Kiev authorities said that they would encircle Donetsk.
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Court upholds arrest of Ukraine's Savchenko charged over reporters deaths

VORONEZH, July 10. /ITAR-TASS/.

Ukrainian citizen Nadezhda Savchenko charged with complicity in murder of reporters of the Russian state television and radio broadcasting company (VGTRK) will remain under arrest until August 30.

The Voronezh regional court upheld the ruling to hold her in custody, rejecting her defense's appeal, according to the court's spokesperson Lada Petina.

The hearing at the regional court was held on Thursday behind closed doors with no journalists allowed. Savchenko was held in an investigation detention center in the city of Voronezh, with video communication established with the court.
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Ukraine woman pilot Savchenko in middle of media war

"Ukraine's GI Jane" and "national hero", or a "Killing machine in a skirt"?

There are two starkly opposing views of the female Ukrainian air force pilot current being held in Russia, in what has become another battle in the ongoing Russian-Ukrainian media war.

This latest information clash - played out mainly on social media as well as mainstream, pro-Kremlin media in Russia - typifies the way the conflict is being fought through opposing media narratives.

In the middle of it all is fashion designer-turned-air force helicopter pilot Nadiya Savchenko, 33.

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RutheniaRus twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 14:26:54 #Putin, #Merkel and #Hollande call for soonest ceasefire resumption and Contact Group meeting - says Kremlin. #Ukraine reageer retweet
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German, French Leaders Call Putin Over Ukraine

German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande have urged Russia to use its influence on rebels in eastern Ukraine so that a meeting on a possible cease-fire can take place as soon as possible.

Merkel's spokesman said she and Hollande called President Vladimir Putin on Thursday morning.

Steffen Seibert said the German and French leaders stressed that the "contact group" made up of representatives of Ukraine, Russia and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe should meet as soon as possible with representatives of pro-Russian rebels, and "Russia should use its means of influence" to ensure that.

Seibert said all three agreed that a cease-fire and avoiding further civilian victims should be a top priority.
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Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin:

We certainly will not hold any negotiations on the conditions for the existence of Crimea. Crimea was Ukrainian and Crimea will be Ukrainian ...
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OSCE Permanent Council won't meet over Ukraine Klimkin

Ukraine doesn't believe that an unscheduled meeting of the OSCE Permanent Council initiated by Russia to discuss the humanitarian situation in Ukraine is possible, Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin has said.

"[There will be] no meeting of the OSCE Permanent Council," the minister said at a briefing on Thursday.

He said that none of the OSCE members backed a resolution proposed by Russia, and they won't consider it.

On July 8, Russia called on the OSCE to conduct an unscheduled meeting of the Permanent Council due to what it said was the continued worsening of the humanitarian situation in Ukraine. Russia's draft resolution contains demands that Ukraine stop military actions and withdraw forces from the eastern part of the country, as well as to establish humanitarian corridors to the counter-terror operation area.


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Weten ze in Oekraine ook wat 'primitieve accumulatie' in het kapitalistisch woordenboek betekent?
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PM Yatseniuk vows most extensive privatization in Ukraine

KYIV, July 10 /Ukrinform/.

Prime Minister Arseniy Yatseniuk promises to announce the most ambitious privatization in the history of Ukraine.

He said this at the All-Ukrainian Agricultural Forum in Kyiv on Thursday.

According to Yatseniuk, next week the government will consider a draft law on the list of objects that are not subject to privatization. "We will declare the most extensive privatization for all 20 years," he said.

The prime minister said that the Ukrspyrt company should be privatized, as well as other state-owned companies, "which are a subject of corruption rather than development of Ukraine."

We certainly will not hold any negotiations on the conditions for the existence of Crimea. Crimea was Ukrainian and Crimea will be Ukrainian ...
De ontruiming van Maidan aanstaande. Terwijl ze juist nu goed moeten toezien op de 'moves' van de regering.
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Kyiv prosecutor demands protesters immediately vacate Maidan

KYIV, July 10 /Ukrinform/.

"I asked the chief of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry's main office in Kyiv, Yuriy Moroz, and city mayor Vitali Klitschko to immediately take effective steps to unblock the captured government buildings and roads in the center of Kyiv. The personal safety and protection of human rights and freedoms should be ensured," Yuldashev said.

He said that the criminal situation on the Maidan was "extremely tense."

"Since the beginning of April this year, the Pechersky district department of police has registered four cases of fatal bodily injury caused to citizens, as well as more than ten armed attacks. Since February 20, more than 158 criminal proceedings have been registered in the center of Kyiv regarding violations of public order related to harming the life and health of citizens and the commission of grave and especially grave crimes," the prosecutor said.


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ANNA News 7 t/m 10 Juli

Uitleg in het eerste item in ANNA News van 10 Juli:
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478 civilians killed, 1,392 injured in eastern Ukraine Health Ministry

As many as 478 civilians have been killed and 1,392 more injured in the area of the anti-terrorist operation (ATO) in eastern Ukraine, the Ukrainian Health Ministry has reported.

"I can say that 1,392 people, including 104 women and 14 children, have been injured," Deputy Health Minister Vasyl Lazoryshynets said at a press conference in Kyiv on Thursday.

"478 were killed. They include 30 women and seven children. These are civilians," he added.

According to the ministry, 279 people are undergoing treatment in medical institutions.


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lennutrajektoor twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 18:41:23 In #Krasnoarmiesk region btln "#Vostok" has taken position to prevent reinforcements fr #Karlivka sent to #Donetsk airport by #ATO. reageer retweet
Luchtaanvallen
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 18:06:34 The Ukrainian air force says it killed more than 50 militants during air raids in #Izvarino, Luhansk oblast and #Karlivka, Donetsk oblast. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 18:35:56 In #Donetsk #ATO air force is doing new air raids. #Ukraine #ATO reageer retweet
Mijnen
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 18:21:39 #BreakingReport 4 Ukr soldiers were killed in another guerilla (mine) attack by Rus militants on an Ukr BMP near the Dolzhansky border point. reageer retweet
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Ukraine boosts gas stocks at underground storage facilities by 115 mln cubic meters in first week of July

Ukraine boosts gas stocks at underground storage facilities by 115 mln cubic meters in first week of July

According to tentative data of public joint-stock company Ukrtransgaz, the operator of the Ukrainian gas transport system, while as of July 1 there were 14.371 billion cubic meters of natural gas at underground storage facilities, as of July 8, 2014 stocks had grown by 0.8%, to 14.486 billion cubic meters.

As reported, Ukraine even after the stoppage of natural gas supplies by Russia continued boosting gas stocks at its underground storage facilities, boosting them by 334.6 million cubic meters.
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Ukraine targets 30% cut in gas consumption - Energy Ministry

Ukraine has set the goal of reducing natural gas consumption 30%, Energy and Coal Industry Minister Yuriy Prodan told Interfax-Ukraine.

"We will now enact measures to reduce consumption, depending on how much we receive [in imports from the EU]. The goal is to reduce consumption 30%," he said.

Ukraine plans to import as much gas as it can from the EU, Prodan said.

"The capacity [for gas imports from the EU] totals about 15 billion cubic meters a year. Taking a half year, that is 7.5 billion cubic meters. That includes the volumes that will pass through Slovakia from September 1," he said.

Naftogaz Ukrainy, acting on instructions from Prodan, has restricted gas supplies to two combined heat and power plants in Kyiv and two in Kharkiv.
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MPs in Western Ukrainian Lvov demand Poroshenko reinstate Nazi collaborators as national heroes
http://rt.com/news/171888-ukraine-nazi-bandera-hero/
Anti-Turkije
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MPs in Western Ukrainian Lvov demand Poroshenko reinstate Nazi collaborators as national heroes
http://rt.com/news/171888-ukraine-nazi-bandera-hero/
Bandera heeft 3 jaar in een Nazi cel gevangen gezeten.
Shukhevich heeft 2 jaar in een concentratiekamp gezeten.
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Bandera heeft 3 jaar in een Nazi cel gevangen gezeten.
Hij wou echter wel samen werken:
Members of Bandera's Ukrainian nationalist movement thought that they had found a new powerful ally in Nazi Germany to aid them in their struggle against the Soviet Union.

En het belangrijkste: hij was een antisemiet, walgelijk dus om hem een nationale held te willen maken.
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Hij wou echter wel samen werken:
Members of Bandera's Ukrainian nationalist movement thought that they had found a new powerful ally in Nazi Germany to aid them in their struggle against the Soviet Union.

En het belangrijkste: hij was een antisemiet, walgelijk dus om hem een nationale held te willen maken.
Oekraine voert momenteel een onafhankelijksoorlog tegen Rusland en herkent in Bandera een voorloper. Althans, zo zou je het kunnen zien, en er zijn er blijkbaar Oekrainers die dat zo zien.
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Lugansk vandaag
RutheniaRus twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 11:23:37 #Lugansk, Terrorists kidnapped CEO City Football Federation and son RT @norestfor reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 13:04:40 #BreakingNews Fighting started north of #Luhansk. https://t.co/6zMYGlfVqm Sirens in the city yelling, smoke nearby. #Ukraine reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 21:52:42 #BreakingFootage Heavy Ukrainian artillery barrage at Russian militant positions north of #Luhansk. https://t.co/jh2gzULtS3 reageer retweet
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 23:18:36 #BreakingNews Russian invaders blew up 2 more railway bridges tonight. Both leading from Ukr-reseized #Seversk into #Donetsk oblast. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 22:58:43 #BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian army recaptured #Chervonopartyzansk border crossing in #Luhansk oblast tonight. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 22:59:27 The crossing lies on the Ukrainian side of #Gukovo town in #Russia. reageer retweet
NorthResistance twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 19:11:13 Foreign Ministry expressed “its strong protest” over #Ukraine shelling of #Russia’s #Gukovo boarder checkpoint.Pls stop talk n start act! reageer retweet
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ChristopherJM twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 23:16:04 #Strelkov signed for execution of 3 men by firing squad - 1 for looting, 2 for kidnapping - in #Sloviansk http://t.co/sxmjNMT5Hk @mashable reageer retweet
maxseddon twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 23:00:02 Strelkov's order to execute Alexei Pichko for stealing two shirts and one pair of pants: http://t.co/Yw1TSDYpaL http://t.co/N1c9x8fVSC reageer retweet
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Documents Show Rebel Justice In East Ukraine Was Bureaucratic, Swift, And Merciless

The militia executed local residents for petty crimes under a decree dating from World War II. Transcripts were left behind by rebels.

SLOVYANSK, Ukraine — The men with guns came for Alexei Pichko in mid-afternoon, before the usual evening barrage of shells flew over this decrepit suburb of dilapidated shacks and half-burnt houses. When his mother went to look for him at the rebel headquarters in the security services building, they told her he was under arrest, but alive and well.

One month later, the men who took him have fled their stronghold in this sleepy east Ukrainian town, unable to sustain the Ukrainian army’s barrage of mortar fire, and retreated to Donetsk, the provincial capital. The building where he was held captive is now half-destroyed, lined with mulch and detritus. The only evidence of what has happened to him is on files found lying on the floor, coated in a thick film of dust, signed and stamped by the separatists’ feared commander.

“By order of the military-field tribunal of the [Donetsk People’s Republic] militia on 17.06.2014,” it reads, “I hereby proclaim that Aleksey Borisovich Pichko, resident of the city of Slovyansk, is sentenced for looting to an exceptional measure of punishment — execution by firing squad — on the basis of the Decree of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR “on martial law” from June 22nd, 1941.”

“The sentence has been carried out.”

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Ook aan de onderhandelingstafel verliezen de pro-Russen terrein.
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Klimkin: Last talks on east Ukraine held without Medvedchuk

KYIV, July 10 /Ukrinform/.

The last trilateral meeting of the contact group involving Ukraine, Russia and the OSCE on the settlement of the conflict in the Donbas has been held without Ukrainian Choice movement leader Viktor Medvedchuk.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin said at a briefing in Kyiv on Thursday.

"[Medvedchuk] did not participate in the latest round of talks, however, he helped with the contacts," the Ukrainska Pravda online newspaper quoted Klimkin as saying.

The minister recalled that Medvedchuk does not represent Ukraine in the negotiations, but did not rule out his participation and "the participation of other mediators" in future meetings.
Meestal een symbolische bedrag van een paar miljoen (Duitsland doneerde 3,5 miljoen voor Slaviansk). TV en radio uitzendingen zijn belangrijk voor de info voorziening / propaganda. De VS ondersteunt ook de voortzetting van ATO (itt de EU).
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US ready to finance restoration of Donbas

KYIV, July 11 /Ukrinform/.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, during a phone conversation with U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden, had discussed international efforts on the implementation of his peace plan in the Donbas and the restoration of infrastructure in the areas that were freed by the Ukrainian Armed Forces from terrorists, the presidential press service has reported.

Poroshenko noted that today the Ukrainian authorities pay great attention to the restoration of proper living conditions in the liberated towns, in particular, on ensuring water and electricity supply, television and radio broadcasting, which were destroyed or significantly damaged by militants.

He noted that the revival of civilian life in the Donbas is a priority for Ukraine, given what residents had to endure during terrorist invasion on Ukrainian settlements.

Biden, in turn, expressed his admiration for the self-restraint and actions of Ukraine and reiterated continued support from the United States. Biden said that the United States was ready to consider financing projects to rebuild infrastructure in the Donbas, following the example of the German initiative for residents of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk.

Biden also said that the United States stands ready to make efforts to expand support for Ukraine from international financial institutions.
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Sloviansk residents still in full information isolation - Lutkovska

KYIV, July 10 /Ukrinform/.

Sloviansk residents remain in information isolation and do not know what is really happening in the country, Verkhovna Rada Commissioner for Human Rights Valeria Lutkovska told a press briefing on Thursday.

"There is another problem for Sloviansk residents - they are in complete information vacuum. In fact, the square in front of the city council building is the only place where they can find some information," Lutkovska said.

The ombudsperson noted that the majority of citizens do not even know that during the time when they were ruled by separatists laws have been passed in the state and other steps have been taken for their protection and liberation. She also noted that now the locals due to absence of electricity and as a result - access to TV and radio - do not understand what is happening in Donbas.
Ach, wij ook niet.

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Dit is zo overduidelijk onwaar. Poroshenko wil alleen vredesonderhandeling onder de voorwaarde dat de rebellen zich gewonnen geven. Andere partijen stellen overigens ook voorwaarden die neerkomen op een (gedeeltelijke) overwinning. Maar niemand wil toegeven dat hij het vredesoverleg blokkeert.
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Ukraine's Poroshenko tells Biden that ceasefire offers rebuffed

(Reuters) - Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko told U.S. Vice President Joe Biden that Russia and Ukrainian separatists had refused multiple proposals by Kiev for venues to negotiate a ceasefire, the White House said on Thursday.

The two discussed the situation in eastern Ukraine in a phone call.

"The Vice President told President Poroshenko that the United States was discussing with its partners in the international community the need to hold Russia accountable for its continued support for the separatists," the White House said.
Politieke spin omgeeft het hele conflict.


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Crimeas prosecutor says Kiev kills its people instead of protecting

SIMFEROPOL, July 10. /ITAR-TASS/.

Laws do not work in Ukraine and the authorities are killing people instead of protecting them, Crimeas Prosecutor Natalia Poklonskaya said on Thursday while visiting a refugee camp for Ukrainians in the village of Opushki near Crimeas capital Simferopol.

Asked about a possibility of forced migrants to assert their rights in Ukraine, the prosecutor replied with emotion: Look what is going on in Ukraine! What is the law there and who are the authorities protecting? A bunch of people who gathered together and dictate their conditions to the others and God knows what they are about?

Which law regulates murder of ordinary citizens? the CrimeaInform quoted Poklonskaya as saying. Who has given them a right to murder? The law does not work in Ukraine, there is none there.

The people who came here and are now enjoying protection of Russian law and Russia testify to this fact, she said.
Natalia Poklonskaya begrijpt niet dat het oorlog is in Oekraine. Twee partijen claimen jurisdictie over hetzelfde gebied. Als het een binnenlands conflict is heeft Kiev het recht de orde te herstellen. Als het een internationaal conflict is, kan alleen internationaal recht boven de partijen staan. En de annexatie van de Krim is in strijd met het internationaal recht.

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Ukraine reinforcing its positions on border with Russia’s Crimea

SIMFEROPOL, July 11. /ITAR-TASS/.

Ukrainian army keeps reinforcing its positions on the Crimean section of the state border with Russia, CrimeaInform reported from the Isthmus of Chongar which connects Crimea and the mainland.
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Operations are in full swing, Ukrainian military forces are digging trenches quickly. If separate firing points slightly deepened in the ground and imbedded with bags of sand were located at these places earlier, now these are full-scale trenches stretching in long lines at 100-200 metres one after another. No less than four lines of trenches are seen from Chongar deeply in Ukrainian territory. On their positions around five veiled infantry armoured vehicles, armoured assault vehicles and no less than two tanks T-64 are noticed. This is seen on a narrow neck of land running deep from checkpoint Chongar in the direction of railway stations Sivash and Novoalekseevka. Meanwhile, the very railway station Sivash was turned in a stronghold, its building was reinforced with bags of sand, the adjacent territory is also prepared for defense.
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MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 22:58:43 #BREAKINGNEWS The Ukrainian army recaptured #Chervonopartyzansk border crossing in #Luhansk oblast tonight. reageer retweet
MiddleEast_BRK twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 22:59:27 The crossing lies on the Ukrainian side of #Gukovo town in #Russia. reageer retweet
Three checkpoints in Russia's Rostov region stop operating amid shooting from Ukraine

ROSTOV-ON-DON, July 11. /ITAR-TASS/.
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The checkpoints Donetsk, Gukovo and Novoshakhtinsk are not functioning since yesterday. The customs staff was evacuated from all the three checkpoints, and the border guard department officers are staying there.

If anybody decides to cross the border in this situation, the border guards will let people pass.
Malayev said.

He added that shells have not exploded at the Russian checkpoints, however, there have been reports that a shell has fallen in the territory of the Gukovo settlement.

Casualties reported, 15 wounded, as bus with miners shelled in southeast Ukraine

LUHANSK, July 11. /ITAR-TASS/.

A bus with miners came under artillery gun fire in Ukraines south-eastern Luhansk region, 15 people were wounded. Several casualties were reported, the press service of Donbass fuel and energy company reported on Friday.
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A bus trafficking miners of Donbass fuel and energy companys Chervonopartizanskaya coalmine to their workplace came under mortar and artillery gun fire at around 5.40pm local time (6.40pm Moscow time) on Thursday, July 10. The companys personnel offers condolences to families of those killed.
Four miners killed, 16 injured after artillery shell hits bus in Chervonopartyzansk - DTEK

Four miners have been killed and 16 more injured after an artillery shell hit a bus carrying miners of DTEK's Chervonopartyzansk mine administration. DTEK Director General Maksym Tymchenko said
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Four have been killed, 16 wounded, and two seriously injured minersare in intensive care.
He also said that DTEK had decided to suspend the operation of four mines in the Luhansk region for safety to life and health of employees. Tymchenko noted that about 4,500 people worked at these mines.

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Izvaryne, n van de belangrijkste grensposten, is door het leger verovert op de rebellen.
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Ukrainian govt forces retake Izvaryne border checkpoint, Kyiv says

Ukrainian troops have seized control over the border checkpoint in Izvaryne, Luhansk region, the press center of the anti-terrorist operation (ATO) has reported.

The troops completed the task of restoring and unblocking the Ukrainian border and taking the border checkpoints in Chervonopartyzansk and Izvaryne, the ATO press center reported on Friday.


Gisteren
EuromaidanPR twitterde op donderdag 10-07-2014 om 21:45:21 #Russian border guard engineering units set up barbered wire along the border near Graniv, #Kharkiv region http://t.co/f9o2SM2xeF |EMPR reageer retweet


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Het Kiev standpunt uit de mond van de Zweedse minister van buitenlandse zaken Carl Bildt in een toespraak gehouden voor het 'Atlantic Council', een Amerikaanse denktank die Kiev begeleid in al haar diplomatieke & strategische stappen.

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Speech by Foreign Minister Carl Bildt at the Atlantic Council

But let’s be clear about one thing: this is a crisis initiated and driven by Russia in every single respect.

By starting its large-scale trade and economic pressure on Ukraine.

By more or less forcing then President Yanukovych to turn around and refuse to sign the EU agreement that he had negotiated and endorsed.

By then encouraging him to use violence to suppress the large Maidan demonstrations that erupted as a result.

By invading, occupying and annexing Crimea as President Yanukovych, for reasons that are still not entirely clear, abandoned the February 21 agreement, his presidency and his country.

By having the Federation Council approve authorisation for invading all of Ukraine, and then massing forces along its borders.

By launching a massive information and propaganda war not only against Ukraine’s European aspirations, but also to fuel fears and encourage divisions inside the country.

And by encouraging and supporting an armed insurrection to fracture the country, obviously aiming at the setting up of a Novorossiya semi-state in its eastern and southern parts.

This was and is a destabilising strategy of an order we have not seen in our part of the world for a long time.

The consequences of this succeeding would be profound. Certainly for Ukraine, but obviously well beyond that.

[...]

Russia must understand that we will never recognise the annexation of Crimea, and that it will burden our relationship for as long as it lasts.

And Russia must accept that Ukraine, like the other countries of the Eastern Partnership, truly has the right to continue on its democratic path and to choose its own European direction.

[...]
Lukashenko heeft een punt
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Lukashenko blames Ukrainian crisis on crooked politicians

Minsk/Vitebsk - Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has blamed the Ukrainian crisis on crooked politicians who disrupted the nation's unity.
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Insluiten die terroristen
Exponentile deflatie van Bitcoin maakt arme mensen nog veel sneller armer dan het grote probleem van inflatie. Gematigde burning van Ethereum is de gulden middenweg.
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Insluiten die terroristen
precies, en dan kapot maken.
Our business in the field of fight, Is not to question, but to prove our might.
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precies, en dan kapot maken.
Liever dat ze gewoon massaal de grens overgaan naar Rusland, en daar vervolgens blijven.
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Poetin kan beter een nuke op Kiev droppen.
Ура для россии
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EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 13:18:54 BREAKING 30 #Ukrainian soldiers killed&more than 100wounded in #Zelenopillya, #Luhansk oblast -to be confirmed https://t.co/ohOphmCFdv (2/2) reageer retweet
Bloedbad onder militairen Oekrane

In het oosten van Oekrane heeft een raketaanval van rebellen op een grenspost het leven gekost aan 30 militairen en grenswachten, zegt een regeringswoordvoerder. Het dodental kan volgens hem nog oplopen.

De rebellen gebruikten een lanceerinstallatie die in 20 seconden 40 katjoesja-raketten kan afvuren.

De grenspost aan de Russische grens in de provincie Lugansk werden in de vroege ochtend onder vuur genomen. De woordvoerder liet weten dat een Oekraense reactie niet lang op zich zal laten wachten.

Verlies
Als het dodental wordt bevestigd, is dit het grootste verlies aan Oekraense kant sinds eind juni, toen door Kiev een eenzijdig bestand werd afgekondigd. Midden juni werd een Oekraens militair vliegtuig met 49 inzittenden neergehaald.

Het Oekraense leger is bezig met een opmars, met als belangrijkste wapenfeit de herovering van Slavjansk.

djp3tros twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 12:41:16 Drama near Zelenopole: entire Ukrainian convoy destroyed? 50 killed 100 wounded? http://t.co/XlOTiGgYP3 http://t.co/DprmIDMbBG reageer retweet


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lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 12:46:14 It's true&cnfrmd by eyewitness. 1st battalion 79th regiment is basically gone. 50 KIA, 150WIA https://t.co/9ZkbknLkKq http://t.co/VdO1i7cvsg reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 13:24:39 1st brigade 79th regiment camp was scouted by UAVs & shelled after, which all came fr #RUS side. This is 1st incident DIRECTLY by #RUS army. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 13:39:02 24th brigade is right now under GRAD shelling. 30 remained alive, 50 KIA, over 100 WIA.No reinforcement.Last tank hit http://t.co/KqWbvxeGVf reageer retweet
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ja ja... seperatisten...

seperatisten my ass...

gewoon Russen...
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EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 09:37:51 #Donetsk airport, #Dovzhansky BCP under terrorists' mortar attack at night. No losses on #ATO side, Tymchuk https://t.co/d4ixBMpfkk |EMPR reageer retweet
EuromaidanPR twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 09:18:30 Terrorists send letters with threats to 15 #Ukrainian journalists, Dmytro #Tymchuk listed first http://t.co/OFPsixZP3g |EMPR reageer retweet
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ja ja... seperatisten...

seperatisten my ass...

gewoon Russen...
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 14:36:54 Just in: Update came regarding GRAD shelling. It might have come as from #RUS, also as inside from #Luhansk region. Developing. #Ukraine. reageer retweet
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 14:50:52 Right now the GRAD incident is investigated as possible GRAD shelling inside #Luhansk region w reconnaissance done w long range UAV drone. reageer retweet
Zolang het gaat om dit soort spullen is het kleinschalige Russische ondersteuning. Net voldoende om de rebellen Oost-Oekraine te laten destabiliseren. Het wordt volgens mij wel geleid door russen, zoals Igor Strelkov.
lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 12:26:27 It's confirmed, #RUS tanks T-72s has been spotted in #Luhansk. 2 by #ATO scouts. By night will be 5 in total. #Ukraine reageer retweet


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'Tientallen Oekraense militairen gedood door separatisten'

Mogelijk dertig Oekraense militairen en grenswachten zijn vrijdag omgekomen door een raketaanval van pro-Russische separatisten in het oosten van Oekrane.


Dat heeft een adviseur van minister Arsen Avakov van Binnenlandse Zaken vrijdag laten weten.

De aanval had rond 5.00 uur in de ochtend (plaatselijke tijd) plaats bij de grensovergang in Zelenopillja in de regio Loehansk.

De adviseur sloot niet uit dat er nog meer slachtoffers zijn gevallen, omdat de separatisten, door hem aangeduid als ''bloeddorstig uitschot'', veel raketten hebben afgevuurd en er veel vernielingen zijn aangericht.

Als het aantal doden inderdaad zo hoog is, is het de zwaarste aanval van de separatisten op regeringsmilitairen sinds president Petro Porosjenko begin vorige week een eenzijdig staakt-het-vuren opzegde.

Separatisten
Eerder op vrijdag maakte de Oekraense legerleiding bekend dat bij een luchtaanval bij de Oekranse grensplaats Izvarino zeker vijftig pro-Russische separatisten zijn gedood.

De luchtaanval was gericht op een ''concentratie separatisten vlak bij Izvarino'', dat aan de grens met Rusland ligt.

Offensief
De Oekraense troepen zijn ten westen van Donetsk, in Oost-Oekrane, begonnen aan een grote aanval om de separatisten tot overgave te dwingen.

In april startte het regering van Oekrane een grootschalige 'anti-terroristische operatie' in het oosten van het land om de pro-Russische separatisten te verdrijven. Bij gevechten tussen de rebellen en de militairen zijn al honderden mensen, overwegend militanten, omgekomen.
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lennutrajektoor twitterde op vrijdag 11-07-2014 om 14:57:42 Per #Tymchuk report the shelling came fr close location of #RUS border. So it's unclear was it #RUS terrorists or #RUS regular army. reageer retweet
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