Vlucht MH370 Malaysia Airlines-ze zijn sowieso de pisang #35

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:09 schreef Unstoppable het volgende:

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Nee, Inmarsat en de UK hebben de data kunnen tracken tot ergens boven de oceaan. Ze kunnen berekenen hoeveel fuel ze nog over kunnen hebben, kun je daar mee een vliegveld of land halen? Nee? Dan is ie ergens de plomp ingegaan, in de middle of nowhere.

Dat is alles wat er nu is gebeurd, er is niks gevonden

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Arclight Films says it is putting preproduction of its upcoming film Deep Water on hold, due to some uncomfortable similarities between the project and the mysterious disappearance of Malaysian flight MH370.


"Out of sensitivity to the Malaysia flight situation, we've decided to put it on pause for now," Gary Hamilton, managing director of Arclight told THR at the Asian industry tradeshow Filmart in Hong Kong.

An action horror, Deep Water tells the story of a flight that mysteriously crashes in a remote stretch of ocean on its way to China. The crash survivors then have to fend off killer sharks.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:13 schreef Uccie het volgende:
Ik denk dat ze nu heel hard de focus gaan leggen op het vinden van de zwarte dozen, die geven niet meer zolang een signaal af en de kans dat je ze daarna nog vindt is denk ik minimaal.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:13 schreef Uccie het volgende:
Ik denk dat ze nu heel hard de focus gaan leggen op het vinden van de zwarte dozen, die geven niet meer zolang een signaal af en de kans dat je daarna nog vindt is denk ik minimaal.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:15 schreef Marrije het volgende:

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dat denk ik ook en het gebied dat ze nu moeten uitkammen is nog te overzien?
In elk geval haalbaar in twee weken?

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:15 schreef eight het volgende:

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Nog een dagje of 12 idd.
Bij de AF447 hebben ze deze overigens na 2 jaar nog gevonden, dus helemaal onmogelijk is het niet.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:15 schreef Marrije het volgende:

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dat denk ik ook en het gebied dat ze nu moeten uitkammen is nog te overzien?
In elk geval haalbaar in twee weken?

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:18 schreef Uccie het volgende:

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Ik weet alleen niet meer of ze wisten dat hij daar lag en dat hij pas bij het bergen naar boven is gekomen of dat hij toevallig bij het bergen meekwam.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 17:52 schreef eight het volgende:

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De kans dat je random objecten tegenkomt is natuurlijk groter, maar in dat geval zou je in de persconferentie een slag om de arm nemen en niet spreken van onomstotelijk bewijs

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:25 schreef Unstoppable het volgende:

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Je moet de tekst nog eens lezen. Berekeningen, data, etc. dat is het onomstotelijke bewijs. Ze hebben de route zover kunnen traceren dat het niet mogelijk is dat het nergens anders dan op de bodem van de oceaan is geëindigd.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:18 schreef Uccie het volgende:

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Ik weet alleen niet meer of ze wisten dat hij daar lag en dat hij pas bij het bergen naar boven is gekomen of dat hij toevallig bij het bergen meekwam.

The Truth behind the Crash of Air France Flight 447 (Full Documentary)

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:33 schreef Marrije het volgende:

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The Truth behind the Crash of Air France Flight 447 (Full Documentary)

vanaf minuut 10 gaat het over het vinden van de zwarte dozen

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:36 schreef El_Matador het volgende:

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Huh? Dat was decompressie en 1 steward die probeerde het vliegtuig nog te redden. Zie filmpje in de OP.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:43 schreef El_Matador het volgende:

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EgyptAir? Ja, die gooide hem gelijk naar beneden, ging niet eerst nog 7,5 uur (!) freewheelen.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 18:43 schreef El_Matador het volgende:

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EgyptAir? Ja, die gooide hem gelijk naar beneden, ging niet eerst nog 7,5 uur (!) freewheelen.

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The Malaysian government has concluded that, based on satellite data analysis from British company Inmarsat, Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean, and no one on board survived.

In a press statement this afternoon, Prime Minister Najib Razak said that, using a type of analysis "never before used in an investigation of this sort", Inmarsat engineers have been able to establish that the plane's last position was in the middle of the Indian Ocean, west of Perth.

"This is a remote location, far from any possible landing sites. It is therefore with deep sadness and regret that I must inform you that, according to this new data, flight MH370 ended in the southern Indian Ocean.

Inmarsat’s role in the search for Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 began immediately after the aircraft disappeared. Although the main aircraft communications addressing and reporting system (which would usually transmit the plane's position) was switched off, one of Inmarsat’s satellites continued to pick up a series of automated hourly 'pings' from a terminal on the plane, which would normally be used to synchronise timing information.

By analysing these pings, Inmarsat was able to establish that MH370 continued to fly for at least five hours after the aircraft left Malaysian airspace, and that it had flown along one of two 'corridors' – one arcing north and the other south. The plane was reportedly flying at a cruising height above 30,000 feet.

"We looked at the Doppler effect, which is the change in frequency, due to the movement of a satellite in its orbit, the aircraft adjusts for its own. What that then gave us was a predicted path for the northerly route and a predicted path the southerly route," explained Chris McLaughlin, senior vice president of external affairs at Inmarsat.

This information was relayed to Malaysian officials by 12 March, but Malaysia's government did not publicly acknowledge it until 15 March, according to the Wall Street Journal. Malaysia began to redirect the search effort that day, to focus on the areas the information described. However, some officials involved with the probe warned that the lost days and wasted resources could impede the investigation.

Meanwhile, Inmarsat's engineers carried out further analysis of the pings and came up with a much more detailed Doppler effect model for the northern and southern paths. By comparing these models with the trajectory of other aircraft on similar routes, they were able to establish an "extraordinary matching" between Inmarsat's predicted path to the south and the readings from other planes on that route.

"By yesterday they were able to definitively say that the plane had undoubtedly taken the southern route," said McLaughlin.

These pings from the satellite – along with assumptions about the plane’s speed – helped Australia and the US National Transportation Safety Board to narrow down the search area to just 3 per cent of the southern corridor on 18 March.

"We worked out where the last ping was, and we knew that the plane must have run out of fuel before the next automated ping, but we didn't know what speed the aircraft was flying at – we assumed about 450 knots," said McLaughlin. "We can’t know when the fuel actually ran out, we can’t know whether the plane plunged or glided, and we can’t know whether the plane at the end of the time in the air was flying more slowly because it was on fumes."

Inmarsat passed the relevant analysis to the UK Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) yesterday. The cause of the crash remains a mystery.

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Op maandag 24 maart 2014 19:10 schreef Uccie het volgende:
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Nee precies en die had dus ook nog een motief voor het doden van een passagier, dat ontbreekt allemaal bij deze vlucht. Vandaar dat ik niet in zelfmoord geloof, maar goed daar hoef ik jou niet van te overtuigen

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The mathematics-based process used by Inmarsat and the UK's Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) to reveal the definitive path was described by McLaughlin as "groundbreaking."

"We've done something new," he said.

Here's how the process works in a nutshell: Inmarsat officials and engineers were able to determine whether the plane was flying away or toward the satellite's location by expansion or compression of the satellite's signal.

What does expansion or compression mean? You may have heard about something called the Doppler effect.
"If you sit at a train station and you listen to the train whistle -- the pitch of the whistle changes as it moves past. That's exactly what we have," explained CNN Meteorologist Chad Myers, who has studied Doppler technology. "It's the Doppler effect that they're using on this ping or handshake back from the airplane. They know by nanoseconds whether that signal was compressed a little -- or expanded -- by whether the plane was moving closer or away from 64.5 degrees -- which is the latitude of the orbiting satellite."

Each ping was analyzed for its direction of travel, Myers said. The new calculations, McLaughlin said, underwent a peer review process with space agency experts and contributions by Boeing.

It's possible to use this analysis to determine more specifically the area where the plane went down, Myers said. "Using trigonometry, engineers are capable of finding angles of flight."