Crisis in Syrië # 83: Koerden als voorlopige winnaars

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:20 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Nee ik ben niet nieuwe hier. Je doet net alsof die "Wahhabieten" alleen maar misdrijven ondergaan.
Je zou moeten weten dat Hezbollah en de Shabiha ook mensen vermoorden/onthoofden en vrouwen en meisjes verkrachten en daarna vermoorden.

Het valt echt altijd bij mij op dat jij echt fucking anti-Salafi bent. Wat hebben salafisten met jouw gedaan. Hebben ze jouw van je fiets afgetrapt ofzo in Tunesie.

Geloof me maar Assad is 1000000000000000X erger dan die "salafisten" van jouw.
Die JAN en ISIS gasten vermoorden niet vanwege iemands geloofsovertuiging maar of hij/zij samenwerkt met Assad. Ze vermoorden/onthoofden ook Soennieten die met Assad samenwerken.
Waarom vechten ze anders tegen de PKK in de Koerdische gebieden.

Al-Qaida leider al-Zawahiri heeft ook gezegd dat zijn "mujahideen" zich moreel moeten gedragen als ze het gebied van de vijand in handen hebben.

Als je sjiiet bent maar je bent anti-Assad doen ze echt niets met jouw.

Je moet eerder bang zijn voor die baard-ayyatollapen dan voor onze Salafisten.

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Syrian Kurds' military gains stir unease

(Reuters) - With a string of military gains across northeastern Syria, a Kurdish militia is solidifying a geographic and political presence in the war-torn country, posing a dilemma for regional powers.

Long oppressed under Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his father before him, Kurds view the civil war as an opportunity to gain the kind of autonomy enjoyed by their ethnic kin in neighboring Iraq.

But their offensive has stirred mixed feelings, globally, regionally and locally, even among some fellow Kurds, who say the Kurdish fighters have drifted into a regional axis supporting Assad, something they deny.

To Assad and his Shi'ite allies, their gains mean more territory out of Sunni rebel hands two and a half years into a revolt against his rule.

Foreign powers supporting the opposition, meanwhile, hope they will deliver a blow to al Qaeda-linked fighters, whose rising power in northern Syria had gone unchecked for months.

"The advance has basically been accepted by all," said Piroz Perik, a Kurdish activist from the town of Qamishli.

Such statements overlook widespread concerns over the impact of the Kurdish militia gains in a conflict that not only threatens Syria's unity, but the stability of neighboring countries with similar ethnic and sectarian divisions.

Numbering more than 25 million, non-Arab Kurds are often described as the world's largest ethnic group without a state. Territories where they predominate, which they call Kurdistan, span parts of Turkey and Iran as well as Syria and Iraq.

Turkey began digging foundations for a wall along part of its border with Syria last month, citing security reasons but prompting protests from Kurds who said it was aimed at preventing closer cross-border ties between their communities.

Rising Kurdish assertiveness in Syria puts Turkey in a particularly tough position as it tries to make peace on its own soil with the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which fought for greater Kurdish autonomy in Turkey for three decades.

The power grab by the Syrian Kurdish militia associated with the Democratic Union Party, or PYD, could embolden the PKK, with which it is closely aligned. But Turkey is also uneasy with having al Qaeda-linked groups on its doorstep.

"What you are going to see is a clearer division of northern Syria between the PYD and Islamist rebel forces," said Kurdish activist Perik.

Redur Xelil, a spokesman for Kurdish militias linked to the PYD, said more than two-thirds of Syrian Kurdish territory had been captured, mostly in northern Hassaka province, where Kurds make up 70 percent of the population and Arabs the rest.

Xelil also hinted the militia could try to take northern towns where Kurds are a minority compared to Arabs, such as the strategic border towns of Jarablus and Azaz that rebels have used as supply routes from Turkey.

Such a move would likely prompt a fierce response from the mostly-Sunni Arab rebels.

"I'm not saying we will do it. Let's take things as they come. We are waiting to see if the armed groups (rebels) will ensure safe movement for Kurds in that region first," he said.

ISLAMIST RETREAT

Tel Abyad, now in the Kurds' sights, is an important cross-border route with Turkey used for supplies. Ras al-Ain, the frontier town already taken by the Kurds this week, played a similar role.

The advances call into question the relative strength of the rebels - particularly the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which have been imposing their will across rebel-held territory.

The two groups also led offensives on Kurdish areas that meant control swung between hardline Islamist rebels and the Kurds for months.

But Islamist rebel sources said it was unlikely that they would seek to challenge Kurdish control now, saying that the balance of power in the northeast has been set and they would focus on the northwest for now.

"The Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) had to leave because of important fronts to defend in Aleppo," said a source with ties to hardline Islamist units.

Rebels also argue that their defeat says more about who was helping their foes than the strength of the Kurdish forces themselves. They said help from Assad's forces and Shi'ite-led Iraq was the reason for Kurdish gains.

Such statements echo local accounts of the PYD's capture of Yaaroubiya on the eastern border with Iraq, where fighters began their push on Kurdish territory last month.

Residents there told Reuters the battle had gone on for four days until Iraqi forces joined the fight, using troops and artillery to turn the tide.

The Iraqi government strongly denies supporting any faction in Syria, including Kurds.

REGIONAL ASSAD AXIS

Although Kurds in Syria say they are against Assad and do not seek a separate state, they are wary of the Arab-led revolt.

The PYD is seen as more pragmatic and open to cooperating with any group to reach goals of autonomy and increasing its own power.

Its opponents, both Kurdish and Arab, say the recent gains clearly show the PYD had drifted into a regional Shi'ite axis behind Assad, whose Alawite sect is a Shi'ite offshoot.

A Kurdish political source in Syria said that the PYD offensive was timed to coincide with a push by Assad's forces to the northwest, near the city of Aleppo.

"Assad's forces also organized Arab militias in the area, most of them tribesmen at odds with al Qaeda's growing power here," he said. "They fought alongside the Kurds."

Xelil denied his fighters worked with outside groups.

But a senior Iraqi politician said Shi'ite power Iran, Assad's main regional ally, was also actively backing the PYD.

"Iran supports these groups to guarantee having a powerful group in Syria in case things go out of control," he said, adding that Tehran was creating a network of allies from minority groups across the country to bolster their interests and to create alternative partners should Assad fall.

The Iraqi politician said Baghdad's Shi'ite government was supporting the Kurds to weaken cross-border ties among Sunnis.

"(They) may help them in cooperation with Iran to create an autonomous Kurdish region ... to establish a buffer zone between Iraqi and Syrian Sunnis."

EYE ON GENEVA

For the PYD itself, the strategic aims of its battlefield gains may be political as much as military. It is trying to secure its role as the dominant power among Syria's Kurds.

Some Kurdish sources say the PYD is hoping its gains will make a case for it to have a spot at the table at planned Syria talks, originally set to be held in November.

The disparate Western-backed Syrian opposition has included some Kurdish members that oppose the PYD, which they accuse of seeking to replace Assad's one-party rule with its own and imposing itself by force. Many Kurds on the ground, however, see the PYD as protectors.

Russia and the United States have been working to get Syria's warring parties to "Geneva 2" in order to create a transitional government and put an end to fighting that has killed well over 100,000 people.

Intransigence on both sides and differing views from Moscow, Assad's longtime arms supplier, and Washington, which backs the opposition, has delayed a date for talks.

But foreign officials say they still hope to hold negotiations by the end of 2013.

"It is our right to self-administration in the Kurdish areas. We're not asking for separation, simply the right to manage our affairs," said PYD spokesman Xelil.

"If Geneva 2 is to organize the future Syria, then we have a right to our own representation."

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:26 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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En vice versa. Vergeet dat niet. Dat bedoel ik met eenzijdige berichtgeving van jouw en Aloulou.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:26 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Negeer mij gewoon man.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:26 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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En vice versa. Vergeet dat niet. Dat bedoel ik met eenzijdige berichtgeving van jouw en Aloulou.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:28 schreef Whiskers2009 het volgende:
En ik persoonlijk ben het Koerdentintje MEER dan zat.. Het gaat hier over Syrië, NIET over Koerden of "Koerdistan"

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:22 schreef Whiskers2009 het volgende:

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Maar je hebt recht op je eigen mening, net als ik

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:10 schreef Frikandelbroodje het volgende:
Zouden die lui uiteindelijk ook terug gaan naar hun eigen land, of de gebieden gaan overheersen zoals ISIS doet?

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:30 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Ja echt he en wij Soennieten zijn altijd de kinderverkrachters, vrouwenverkrachters enz. Wij zijn altijd de slechte.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:33 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Reageer op mijn post dan. Laat mij 1 artikel zien die bewijst dat Hezbollah niet-sjiieten onthoofd. Of gewoon vermoord, omdat ze geen sjiieten zijn of fout bidden. Eentje maar. Je hoeft niet te zoeken, want je weet best dat dat niet kan.

Jij moet ophouden met Salafisten en Hezbollah gelijkstellen. Het klopt gewoon niet. Hezbollah steunt Assad voor hun voortbestaan. Ze weten dat het afgelopen is als Assad valt.

De Salafisten zijn in Syrië om mensen te onthoofden. Een Islamitische staat stichten, eentje die aan hun eisen voldoet, zonder niet-moslims en andersdenkenden.

Christian Singer Honors Hezbollah in Stunning 2013 Concert Performance

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:36 schreef Whiskers2009 het volgende:

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Kan best. Maar het gaat hier al zowat een week alleen over het Koerdisch perpectief.. Ben er wel ff klaar mee... Em je ad hominems mag je ook achterwege laten

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:13 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Nee, ze willen Syrië niet overheersen. Zo groot zijn ze trouwens ook niet. De enige reden dat Hezbollah achter Assad staan is omdat ze afhankelijk zijn van hem. Zonder Assad bestaat Hezbollah niet.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:16 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

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Nee, daarom is er wel een verschil tussen ISIS en wahabistische extremisten en sjitische groepen. Deze sjitische groepen uit het buitenland vechten puur om Bashar in het zadel te houden, niet om hun ideologie op te leggen aan alles en iedereen dat beweegt. Daarom zeg ik ook altijd dat soennitische extremisten veel te sektarisch zijn om normaal een pluriform land te kunnen opbouwen, ze sluiten alles en iedereen buiten met het opleggen van hun ideologische heilsstaat. Zelfs mede-soennieten van de verkeerde wetschool moeten het ontgelden en worden keihard aangepakt

Neemt niet weg dat de sjitische milities die in Syrie vechten gewoon alles ook op jihad gooien, lees de artikelen erover, religieuze propaganda en noem maar op.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:20 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:
Nee ik ben niet nieuwe hier. Je doet net alsof die "Wahhabieten" alleen maar misdrijven ondergaan.
Je zou moeten weten dat Hezbollah en de Shabiha ook mensen vermoorden/onthoofden en vrouwen en meisjes verkrachten en daarna vermoorden.

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Het valt echt altijd bij mij op dat jij echt fucking anti-Salafi bent. Wat hebben salafisten met jouw gedaan. Hebben ze jouw van je fiets afgetrapt ofzo in Tunesie.

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Geloof me maar Assad is 1000000000000000X erger dan die "salafisten" van jouw.
Die JAN en ISIS gasten vermoorden niet vanwege iemands geloofsovertuiging maar of hij/zij samenwerkt met Assad. Ze vermoorden/onthoofden ook Soennieten die met Assad samenwerken. Waarom vechten ze anders tegen de PKK in de Koerdische gebieden.

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Al-Qaida leider al-Zawahiri heeft ook gezegd dat zijn "mujahideen" zich moreel moeten gedragen als ze het gebied van de vijand in handen hebben.

Als je sjiiet bent maar je bent anti-Assad doen ze echt niets met jouw.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:39 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Niet-Molsism ( en daar behoren in het perspectief van de Salafisten ook sjiieten erbij) moeten de jizya betalen om in een Islamitische staat te leven onder militaire bescherming van de Moslims.

Dus niet alle sjiieten worden afgeslacht door Wahhabieten hoor. Maak je daar maar niet zo druk over.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:43 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Bewijs vor die fatwa's. Kom maar op met je bewijs. En vertalen in het Engels eventueel.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:44 schreef Peunage het volgende:

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Serieus?
Dit is algemeen bekend chef. Het is niet eens nieuw.

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Syrian Perspective has learned that with the liberation of Greater Al-Subayna and Lesser Al-Subayna came some shocking news that was deliberately kept secret by the Syrian security forces. During the cleansing of the area, SAA infantry discovered a tunnel complete with electricity and a field clinic. What they also found on that November 7th were hostages inside who had been kept in a state of terror for at least 5 months. The hostages were all women who were reported kidnapped by their families both in the eastern part of the country and the south. All the women were either Christian or Shi'i. Monzer reports that there were 16 of them, all between the ages of 14 years and 27. When they were saved by the army, Monzer says the women were in a frenzied state begging the military intelligence officers not to report to their families how they were used. Moreover, the Syrian government has agreed to keep their names secret.

Monzer says most of the girls were unmarried at the time of their abductions but that 2 were married with husbands in the military. They were forced to have sex with the denizens of this tunnel repeatedly, being subject to constant brutality if they did not comply. They were denied access to birth control on the grounds that such medication was "unholy" and "haraam". Monzer says that 4 of the girls, including one who is 14 years old, have been subsequently determined to be pregnant. Abortion in Syria is illegal. However, an exception can be made for rape especially in cases involving minors. The length of time the fetus has been in utero will make a difference also.

What is even more amazing is that 3 Jihadist females from both Tunisia and Libya were assigned to control the women and to beat them if they became recalcitrant. They were constantly told it was an honor to serve in Allah's army and that Jihad was the right path if they were to be saved from Hellfire. According to Monzer, the Jihadist females were evacuated by the terrorists but were killed as they tried to escape into Al-Hajar Al-Aswad. No more details available.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:45 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Kom dan met eentje.

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Op maandag 11 november 2013 22:43 schreef Baklava95 het volgende:

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Bewijs vor die fatwa's. Kom maar op met je bewijs. En vertalen in het Engels eventueel.