[DE GYM #17] Clen of ECA?

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 12:38 schreef Jahr00n het volgende:
keenkker net shaken met me shakebaker in de kleedkamer zat de dop er niet goed op hele rotzooi onder de berry blast gek

voor niks getraind maar niks opgeruimd

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:21 schreef 16meter het volgende:
kijk maadje beter ga je eerst cutten en daarna kuren met bulk

blijf je laag in bf en je pakt veel massa

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:24 schreef seto het volgende:
Hoe kan Jahr00n zo goed zijn in het nadoen van een retard?

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:29 schreef 16meter het volgende:

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juicen is wel t beste argument tegen hem ja

ik vind het ook echt heel erg dat mensen veel meer gains maken dan ik

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:38 schreef Sapstengel het volgende:

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Het is gewoon die dutchbodybuilding mentaliteit. "oh ik gain niet snel genoeg, ook al lift ik maar anderhalf jaar. Wacht, ik ga wel juicen."

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:38 schreef Sapstengel het volgende:

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Het is gewoon die dutchbodybuilding mentaliteit. "oh ik gain niet snel genoeg, ook al lift ik maar anderhalf jaar. Wacht, ik ga wel juicen."

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:47 schreef seto het volgende:

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Hier is weer een mooie

http://forum.dutchbodybui(...)one-250-test-334137/

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:51 schreef Sapstengel het volgende:

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Goede inderdaad . 18 jaar oud en direct beginnen met kuren. Wil natuurlijk lekker breed worden voor de zomer .

Gasten weten niet hoeveel je als natty kunt pakken in een jaar liften met een goed dieet en goede training. Het zijn ook altijd de juicers die een kut dieet hebben of slap trainen. Helft van de tijd praten, borst en biceps all day every day etc.

Je gaat natty geen Jeff Seid worden, wat toch wel streeffysiek is voor veel van die gasten. Maar als je goed eet en traint kun je echt veel verder komen dan die halfslappe gasten die "eten wanneer ze honger hebben" en een kutschema hebben wat betreft het trainen.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:52 schreef Yuri_Boyka het volgende:

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Na 9 weken aan de juice heb je al meer mass gepakt dan dat je in één jaar met een optimaal dieet natty pakt, tenzij nooby gains. Het is de realiteit.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:53 schreef seto het volgende:
no shit

maar meteen beginnen met kuren vind ik gewoon ronduit zwak

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:53 schreef Sapstengel het volgende:

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Het zijn ook de nooby gains die ik bedoel. Daarom snap ik gasten niet die juicen in hun eerste en tweede jaar liften.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:53 schreef seto het volgende:
no shit

maar meteen beginnen met kuren vind ik gewoon ronduit zwak

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Guys that want to gain 25+lbs per cycle.

This will come in handy to all the 20,000 kids we get on a day to day basis looking to juice up when they are clearly not ready and are completely uneducated on the correct usage of Anabolic Sterons.

Enjoy the read, and use these tools to help better yourselves in the now, and in the future for your sake.

"Here’s some info for guys who want to gain 20-25lbs on a cycle.

Everyone wants to know how to gain high poundages on a cycle. We’ve all got a “friend” in a gym somewhere that gained 25lbs on his last cycle and we want to do the same. We ask ourselves…What is his secret? Is the juice he’s taking that good? Is it a good diet in conjunction with the test.. is that what is responsible? Well, here’s the answer.. NO, his particular anabolic compound of choice be it Sus****, W***ol, Dbolly, Trenc0r3, etc… isn’t so great that whoever takes one of those compounds will grow.. nor is his diet so “on” that he will gain more than us.

Here’s the truth.. and some of you won’t like it.. Some of you may even get pissed off.. The reason these guys grow so much on their cycles is because they shouldn’t even be using sterons to begin with… And that’s the truth… That may sound a bit confusing.. yes? Well allow me to elaborate…

You take a 20 yr old male. He has been lifting on and off for six months or so… He’s about 6 foot tall maybe a little shorter.. 5’10” or so.. He weighs about 165lbs.. He’s got a little bit of definition.. nothing big.. when his shirt is off people can tell he’s been working out.. He decides one day that he wants to take sterons, He sees the really big guys in the gym and he wants to be like them right now.. he doesn’t want to wait any longer.. in his mind six months has been long enough.. So he gets on the internet.. he finds a message board similar to this one.. he reads a little .. finds a hook up.. and decides to run 350mg of testabolly and 300mg of decadrincor3 for two months and ends up weighing around 185 or 190.. All of his friends are amazed.. he’s amazed He’s put on some size.. he looks like a weight lifter.. he doesn’t look like someone who could compete.. but he looks like he’s finally arrived on the Body building scene… His closest friends are so impressed that they want to run the exact same cycle .. He tells them exactly what he did.. how he ate etc… Now, a few months go by.. all of a sudden the kid is back to around 165 maybe 170.. He thinks.. “Oh man.. I’ve got to get back on cycle.. I need those drugs to be big.. if I don’t.. I just can’t grow… Sterons require that I stay on all the time to maintain the kind of size that I want”… I guess that’s what he has to do; huh; stay on all the time?

Now, here’s the reason he gained 25lbs on his cycle.. He was so far from his genetic potential that once the anabolic compounds were introduced into his system he grew like a weed.. His body didn’t need to struggle to put on that mass, because it was quite capable of adding that much mass naturally.. The sterons just sped it up..

it is for lack of a better or more accurate word.. a short cut to get to where he could have gotten natural anyway. His inevitable weight loss after coming off his "super" cycle wasn’t from the lack of sterons.. it was from a lack of a proper foundation.. a Lack of proper training skills, and a lack of muscular maturation…

Here’s the deal.. guys who need sterons aren’t the guys who are growing 25+lbs per cycle.. they are gaining 10lbs and hopefully keeping 5-8.. They are struggling to even do that.. I’ll tell you from personal experience.. I am 30 yrs old 6’2” .. I am 284lbs currently.. I am 17% BF (I’m a power lifter/strongman.. so I keep a little extra fat on me)…If I wanted to keep the same body fat % I have now and weigh 300lbs.. I would have to run a very long cycle. or in all honesty it will take me two full cycles to get to 3 bills..

An average cycle for me is about 750mg Testticles, 450mg Decadrolly, 300mg EQuilzer and Some Dbollydrincor3l in the front and at the end… Those are some fairly heavy dosages...Why don’t I gain 25lbs per cycle?

Because No matter how much gear I take.. no matter how much I eat.. my body is so far beyond it’s genetic potential that I simply can’t add that kind of radical mass anymore..

My body does a fairly good job of maintaining mass when I’m not on cycle.. but I do drop weight regardless.. and in truth, the only reason my body maintains it’s size as well as it does is because of Muscle maturation.. My body is used to carrying around that muscle.. it’s not a shock to my body to carry it around.. And I built a solid mass foundation naturally years ago.. I reached my genetic potential before I started using juice.. Lifting was a habit and a lifestyle for me because I played football from Junior high through College.

I’ve worked out in gyms all over the country.. and I have been doing so for the better part of a decade.. and I'll tell you, I have seen a lot of little guys blow up for a couple of months from a cycle only to deflate a couple of months later. It's the truth.. Muscle Maturation plays a huge key in keeping mass... that and proper training skills.. (and no hitting bench 3 days a week and squatting once every few months doesn't count)

So in truth, when you hear about some guy who gained 25-30lbs off of a cycle.. Please keep in mind that he is probably some impatient tiny punk that could have easily gained the same amount of muscle had he just been a little more patient.. If he had just been focused on learning how to train.. focused on how to eat…

This is a lifestyle.. there are no short cuts if you want to be the real deal.... There will never be a fly by nighter even win the smallest amateur comp in booney freaking Iowa if he hasn't been serious for years...

It's important that you guys learn that Juice may seem like the best short cut in the beginning... but whenever you add that much mass that quickly from gear.. Your body isn’t going to be ready for it.. it will literally fight you to keep it.. the sudden size and strength will stress the ligaments, tendons, bones and central nervous system and Your body will do everything that it can to shed those rapid muscle gains.. Decent muscle mass is only kept through time and hard work (cough.. cough.. it's a cliché.. but it's still true).. and it's important that your gains aren't so fast that the body can't adjust healthfully to it’s new weight gain..

I've been on the boards for years.. and I'll tell you, 80% of the people on these boards are wannabes and posers.. they are guys who won’t even be working out six months from now.. They are impatient and are looking for the shortcut.. they may even get a few short term results.. but in the long run they will come out behind everyone else (and when I say long run.. i mean less than a year or two)

These kind of guys will never be anything more than a hobbyist.. and in truth...that is probably the case in every other aspect of their lives as well, not just weight lifting..

So in the end my advice is this.. if you are wanting to add some mass. and you’re stuck.. learn a different training method.. change your diet.. and if you’re a good size.. (that’s when everyone who is in the room with you knows you’re a weight lifter.. if you walk in a room, and everyone in there doesn’t know that you lift… you are not ready for sterons) then come and sit down.. and we’ll talk about sterons.. until then… Learn how to train.. learn how to eat.. and spend some time in the gym.. you’ll be so much better off in the end…

-Created by Phreezer."

Last edited by HawaiianPride.; 08-19-2010 at 01:09 PM

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:55 schreef 16meter het volgende:

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Hier ben ik het dan wel weer mee eens.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:55 schreef Panzermaus het volgende:

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Kwam laatst deze post erover tegen.

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Is een goede read.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 14:03 schreef ZetaOS het volgende:
Dood als een pier.
Had het nieuwsbericht een paar maanden geleden nog gepost.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 14:03 schreef Panzermaus het volgende:
Yeah. Maar zelfs met al die juice en shit, kom je soms foto's van Zyzz tegen ofzo en dan denk je, is dit het?

[ afbeelding ]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=129482833&page=1

Hij heeft soms echt enorme verschillen tussen zijn foto's zitten. Kwestie van pump, belichting, hoek, etc.

Bovenstaande vs: [ afbeelding ]

En dan dit.

[ afbeelding ]

hyoogge

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 14:06 schreef seto het volgende:

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Die benen op de eerste foto

Maar je hebt gelijk, op sommige foto's is het inderdaad goed te zien wanneer hij off-cycle was.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 14:06 schreef 16meter het volgende:

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tweede foto man

voor zoiets zet ik gerust een naald in m'n reet

on-off/bulk-cut/belichting/pomp

en volgens mij veranderden zijn doelstellingen ook nogal eens, dan weer super lean willen zijn, dan weer zo groot mogelijk etc.

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 14:12 schreef ZetaOS het volgende:

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Hier dansen in de Gym

Dana Linn Bailey 720

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Op dinsdag 26 maart 2013 13:27 schreef Sapstengel het volgende:
Mjah ik snap die hele Zyzz adoratie niet. Dom figuur, juicen voor het leven, constant zoeken naar aandacht en awkward gedragen met z'n matties. En iedereen zegt altijd dat hij aan het trollen was, maar daar heb ik m'n twijfels bij.

Inb4 negs.