Het zit in dezelfde categorie ja, net als Yellowstone.quote:Op dinsdag 4 januari 2011 10:23 schreef HyperViper het volgende:
Spannend, is deze vergelijkbaar met Toba?
ik ookquote:Op maandag 3 januari 2011 23:20 schreef Honingbijtje het volgende:
Ik hoop stiekem dat ie uitbarst : O
Schijnt ooit een keer uitgebarsten te zijn, maar die was niet zwaarder dan de uitbarsting van Tambora in 1815. (zie ook Volcanic Explosivity Index)quote:Op dinsdag 4 januari 2011 10:23 schreef HyperViper het volgende:
Spannend, is deze vergelijkbaar met Toba?
Gaat dat over de Italiaanse vulkaan?quote:Op woensdag 21 september 2011 16:43 schreef lipjes het volgende:
Ik ga deze eens even kicken
Viel me op dat er de afgelopen tijd wat krachtige activiteit is:
Date Time Magnitude Depth
2011-09-19 23:27:19 2.3 27 Km
2011-09-17 13:41:44 3.6 23 Km
2011-09-08 22:06:21 4.8 33 Km
2011-09-07 00:10:01 5.0 40 Km
2011-09-06 10:47:28 5.0 25 Km
2011-08-16 19:35:20 5.4 40 Km
2011-08-14 20:42:05 4.9 50 Km
2011-08-09 19:24:33 2.8 8 Km
2011-08-07 20:31:52 3.2 8 Km
2011-08-05 10:53:22 4.9 56 Km
Heb je misschien een lnik waar ik meer over de status van de tambora kan vinden? Ik zou het graag willen volgen!quote:Op woensdag 21 september 2011 16:57 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
Tambora heeft de alertstatus al verhoogd naar de ena-hoogste stand...![]()
italie rommelt het echt flink door, wist niet dat deze bevingen echt bij CF waren
quote:Possible signs of magma ascent in supervolcano Campi Flegrei
Campi Flegrei caldera (Italy): increase in uplift and temperature as possible signs of magma ascent
According to a recent report by INGV Naples, the ground deformation of the Campi Flegrei (Phlegraean Fields) near Naples has increased considerably lately. During the last 12 months, the ground in some places near the town of Pozzuoli was uplifted by about 8 cm.
The largest uplift, recorded by GPS devices, occurred during the months of July-August 2012 and since December. The trend appears to be continuing at the moment.
Such (sometimes dramatic, totaling up to several meters in a few years) ground uplift and subsidence have been known in the Phlegraean Fields since antiquity and are not a new phenomenon. They can usually be explained by normal pressure, temperature and density variations of the giant hydrothermal system of the Campi Flegrei caldera and may not necessarily indicate an imminent eruption.
However, in addition to the detected ground deformation, scientists also measured increased numbers of micro earthquakes, a rise in temperature and in particular, an increase in the proportion of the gases of magmatic origin at fumaroles in the Solfatara crater.
As the hydrothermal system is closely connected with the underlying complex magma chamber of the Phlegrean Fields, new magma movements could in fact be the culprit for the observed changes. Whether these, and if so when, will lead to a new volcanic eruption is currently uncertain.
A much larger increase of such observed changes should probably be expected if in fact should new volcanic activity was to announce itself.
The last volcanic eruption occurred after a rest period of about 3000 years in the year 1538 AD and built a new cinder cone, the Monte Nuovo ("New Mountain") near Pozzuoli.
Strong ground uplift, earthquakes and changes in springs and fumaroles preceded the eruption according to historical sources. Even though it was - geologically speaking - a rather small eruption, the effects of a similar event today would be devastating for the very densely populated area. It should be hoped that the residents and all involved are spared such a scenario, at least for the near future.
quote:Supervolcano awakening in Italy?
It looks like we may be in for an earth-shattering explosion. A dormant super volcano appears to be stirring under the Phlegraen Fields of Naples in Italy. Rising soil temperatures and surface deformation in the area have alarmed seismologists. In the distant past, volcanic super eruptions caused global climate change responsible for mass extinctions of plant and animal species.
So far, scientists are unable to model the potential consequences of an awakening super volcano.
Latest studies show that the Phlegraen Fields have actually been swelling above sea level at a rate of 3 cm per month. Micro quakes and large amounts of gases accumulated in soil indicate that the volcano may be preparing to erupt, says Vladimir Kiryanov, Assistant Professor of Geology at the St. Petersburg University.
"The Phlegraen Fields are a super volcano. Yellowstone in the United States and Toba in Indonesia are also super volcanoes capable of spewing more than 1,000 cubic km of magma. These are catastrophic eruptions. There was a huge volcanic eruption in the Phlegraen Fields some 30,000-40,000 years ago. Volcanic ash from that eruption is still found in the Mediterranean, Bulgaria, Ukraine, and even in Russia. We are now seeing the expansion of a magma pocket, which means that there might be an eruption at a certain time."
Super eruptions of such magnitude may produce the so-called “volcanic winter” effect when sulfur gases and ash will reach the stratosphere and cover the globe with thick ash clouds that solar rays will be unable to penetrate. Condensed sulfur trioxides will react with moisture, forming sulfuric acid. Downpours of sulfuric acid will hit the Earth. Scientists have obtained new evidence of a similar cataclysm following the eruption of the Toba super volcano on island of Sumatra in Indonesia about 74,000 years ago. But today, things promise to be even more devastating. Suffice it to recall the havoc wreaked by a minor increase in volcanic activity in Iceland in 2010 on air transportation over Europe.
Super eruptions occurred so rarely that it is virtually impossible to calculate the approximate time span between the first and last stages of a future potential eruption. In the 1970s, the Phlegraen Fields inflated by more than 50 cm. There were even cracks in house walls. But then the process slackened. Apparently, the fact itself that a magma chamber is being filled with magma may or may not signal any immediate eruption. Alexei Sobisevich, laboratory chief at the Institute of Volcanology and Geophysics of the Russian Academy of Sciences, shares his view:
"It actually seems to be a long-term precursor. A magma chamber may be filled up within a span ranging from decades to centuries. Many mounts grow by 5 cm per year. This is a natural process."
Some scientists hold that the volcanic system of the Earth is becoming increasingly tense and that underground cavities are full of magma threatening to burst out any moment. Whether this will be a super eruption or a string of smaller eruptions, we should prepare for the worst.
quote:Campi Flegrei nearing critical pressure point
The slumbering Campi Flegrei volcano under the Italian city of Naples shows signs of reawakening and may be nearing a critical pressure point, according to a new study.
Italian and French scientists have for the first time identified a threshold beyond which rising magma under the Earth’s surface could trigger the release of fluids and gases at a 10-fold increased rate.
This would cause the injection of high-temperature steam into surrounding rocks, said Giovanni Chiodini, a researcher at Italy’s National Institute of Geophysics and Volcanology in Bologna. “Hydrothermal rocks, if heated, can ultimately lose their mechanical resistance, causing an acceleration towards critical conditions,” he told AFP by email.
He said it was not possible to say when – or if – the volcano would erupt but “it would be very dangerous” if it did for about 500,000 people living inside and near the caldera – the bowl-like depression created after a volcano blows its top.
Chiodini said there was an urgent need to obtain a better understanding of Campi Flegrei’s behaviour because of the risk to such a dense urban population.
Since 2005, Campi Flegrei has been undergoing what scientists call uplift, causing Italian authorities to raise the alert level in 2012 from green to yellow, signalling the need for active scientific monitoring. The pace of ground deformation and low-level seismic activity has recently increased.
Two other active volcanoes – Rabaul in Papua New Guinea and Sierra Negra in the Galapagos – “both showed acceleration in ground deformation before eruption with a pattern similar to that observed at Campi Flegrei,” Chiodini said.
The Campi Flegrei caldera was formed 39,000 years ago in an explosion that threw hundreds of cubic kilometres of lava, rock and debris into the air in the largest eruption in Europe in the past 200,000 years. Campi Flegrei last erupted in 1538, though on a much smaller scale.
Nearby Mount Vesuvius, which had a massive eruption in AD79 that buried several Roman settlements including Pompeii, is also classified as an active volcano.
Alhoewel ik aan de goede kant van de vulkaan zit denk ik dat een uitbarsting ook voor de Balkan geen pretje isquote:Op woensdag 21 december 2016 08:55 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
Vulkanologen: 'monster van Napels' kan rond 2020 ontwaken
Een van de engste vulkanen van Europa lijkt af te stevenen op een eruptie. Ergens rond 2020 zou de reuzenvulkaan Campi Flegrei bij Napels zijn kookpunt bereiken en tot uitbarsting kunnen komen. Dat becijferen Italiaanse vulkanologen aan de hand van gassen die uit de vulkaan ontsnappen.
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quote:Op woensdag 21 december 2016 08:59 schreef IJsmuts het volgende:
nog ff snel napels zien en dan sterven.
euhm... https://www.businessinsid(...)ernational=true&r=UKquote:Op vrijdag 23 december 2016 21:28 schreef DemonRage het volgende:
Dit bloed maar in de gaten houden dan...
http://www.ov.ingv.it/ov/(...)legrei%202017_04.pdfquote:Op maandag 15 mei 2017 22:34 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
https://m.phys.org/news/2(...)uption-possibly.html
Nieuw artikel? Maar weinig nieuws?
In feite had die regio nooit zo dichtbevolkt moeten raken. Het is nu idd maar hopen dat er geen miljoenen mensen omkomen en dat ze op tijd worden gewaarschuwd bij de komende uitbarsting vermoedelijk ergens de komende paar decennia.quote:Op maandag 22 mei 2017 06:23 schreef de_tevreden_atheist het volgende:
https://www.wired.com/201(...)italys-supervolcano/
Wanneer geef je als burgemeester van Napels het bevel tot evacuatie van 5 miljoen mensen, en wanneer beslis je of het loos alarm was zodat ze weer terug kunnen keren?
quote:Italiaans gezin komt om in vulkaangebied
De kisten waarin de slachtoffers worden weggedragen komen aan EPA
In het zuiden van Italië heeft zich bij de vulkaan Solfatara een gezinsdrama voorgedaan. Een jongen van elf klom over een hek een verboden gebied in en viel, waarschijnlijk in een krater. Zijn ouders probeerden hem te redden maar kwamen daarbij zelf om. Een broertje van zeven dat buiten de verboden zone was gebleven was getuige van het drama.
Wat de drie slachtoffers het leven heeft gekost is nog niet duidelijk. Mogelijk zijn ze onwel geworden door gassen in de krater of zijn ze omgekomen door een explosie van hete modder, vlak onder oppervlakte van de krater. De overvloedige regenval van de afgelopen dagen heeft geleid tot meer openingen in de oppervlakte van de vulkaan.
Brandende Velden
De Solfatara-krater is onderdeel van de Campi Flegrei, ofwel de Brandende Velden. De laatste eruptie was in 1198. Tegenwoordig ontsnappen regelmatig rookslierten en er doen zich van tijd tot tijd aardschokken voor. De temperatuur kan plaatselijk oplopen tot 160 graden.
Kenmerkend voor deze vulkaan zijn de fumarolen, openingen in de vulkaan waarbij de uitgestoten gassen grotendeels uit waterdamp bestaan. De overige componenten zijn ijzerverbindingen en zwavelverbindingen.
De Brandende Velden zijn een toeristische attractie in de regio Napels. De velden worden ook veel bezocht door schoolklassen. Door het hele gebied staan waarschuwingsborden en gevaarlijke stukken zijn door hekken omsloten.
Wotquote:Scientists locate potential magma source in Italian supervolcano
Scientists have now pinpointed the location of the hot zone where hot materials rose to feed the caldera during its last period of activity in the 1980s. Credit: University of Aberdeen
Scientists have found the first direct evidence of a so-called 'hot zone' feeding a supervolcano in southern Italy that experts say is nearing eruption conditions.
Campi Flegrei is a volcanic caldera to the west of Naples that last erupted centuries ago.
The area has been relatively quiet since the 1980s when the injection of either magma or fluids in the shallower structure of the volcano caused a series of small earthquakes.
Using seismological techniques, scientists have now pinpointed the location of the hot zone where hot materials rose to feed the caldera during this period.
The study was led by Dr Luca De Siena at the University of Aberdeen in conjunction with the INGV Osservatorio Vesuviano, the RISSC lab of the University of Naples, and the University of Texas at Austin. The research provides a benchmark that may help predict how and where future eruptions could strike.
"One question that has puzzled scientists is where magma is located beneath the caldera, and our study provides the first evidence of a hot zone under the city of Pozzuoli that extends into the sea at a depth of 4 km," Dr De Siena said.
"While this is the most probable location of a small batch of magma, it could also be the heated fluid-filled top of a wider magma chamber, located even deeper."
Dr De Siena's study suggests that magma was prevented from rising to the surface in the 1980s by the presence of a 1-2 km-deep rock formation that blocked its path, forcing it to release stress along a lateral route.
While the implications of this are still not fully understood, the relatively low amount of seismic activity in the area since the 1980s suggests that pressure is building within the caldera, making it more dangerous.
"During the last 30 years the behaviour of the volcano has changed, with everything becoming hotter due to fluids permeating the entire caldera," Dr De Siena explained.
"Whatever produced the activity under Pozzuoli in the 1980s has migrated somewhere else, so the danger doesn't just lie in the same spot, it could now be much nearer to Naples which is more densely populated.
"This means that the risk from the caldera is no longer just in the centre, but has migrated. Indeed, you can now characterise Campi Flegrei as being like a boiling pot of soup beneath the surface.
"What this means in terms of the scale of any future eruption we cannot say, but there is no doubt that the volcano is becoming more dangerous.
"The big question we have to answer now is if it is a big layer of magma that is rising to the surface, or something less worrying which could find its way to the surface out at sea."
Kut, die gaat dus al binnen 3483479 jaar ontploffen!quote:
quote:Magma building beneath dangerous supervolcano could signal huge eruption
One of the world’s most dangerous supervolcanoes appears to be accumulating magma as it transitions to a pre-eruption state, a study has found. Scientists do not say that a large eruption is imminent—but they do suggest that current conditions at Campi Flegrei indicate one could happen at "some undetermined point in the future."
Campi Flegrei is one of the few active supervolcanoes in the world. It is located in southern Italy, about nine miles to the west of Naples, which is home to around 1.5 million people. The last time it erupted was in 1538—a fairly small event known as the Monte Nuovo eruption. However, 40,000 years ago, it produced a "super-colossal" eruption, which is just one down from the “mega-colossal” eruptions recorded at Yellowstone.
Over the last 60 years, the volcanic region—which is made up of 24 craters and edifices—has shown signs of unrest, and scientists have been studying it and monitoring it closely to better understand the changes taking place.
In a study published in Science Advances, a team of researchers led by Francesca Forni, from ETH Zurich in Switzerland, examined rock, mineral and glass samples taken from 23 eruptions at Campi Flegrei—including the two biggest from the last 60,000 years. By analyzing the elements within these samples, the researchers were able to construct a picture of what was happening before and after eruptions.
Their findings appear to show that magma is building beneath the volcanic system—and that it is entering a new caldera cycle. This could indicate that the volcano is moving toward a new phase that will result in a large eruption at the site, the team says. The study does not indicate that an eruption will happen soon.
Analysis of the elements suggest there were critical changes to the temperature and water content of the magma at certain points in the eruptive history of Campi Flegrei. Minerals in the magma were found to decrease over time, while water content increased. They found that this happened before the Monte Nuovo eruption.
The team notes that after the Monte Nuovo eruption, Campi Flegrei entered a “new phase” of inactivity. Since the 1950s, there have been three “major periods of unrest,” raising concern that the volcano is reawakening. The movement of magma from depths of about five miles to 1.8 miles has previously been blamed for this unrest.
The latest findings suggest this is consistent with the presence of water-saturated magma in the upper crust, allowing for the build up of a huge magma reservoir. “We propose that the subvolcanic plumbing system at Campi Flegrei is currently entering a new build-up phase, potentially culminating, at some undetermined point in the future, in a large volume eruption,” they conclude.
Luca De Siena, from the U.K.’s University of Aberdeen, who has previously published research on the Campi Flegrei system, commented on the findings: “At Campi Flegrei, an outstanding question is why we cannot see the plumbing systems of the volcano below 4-5km (2.5-3 mile) depths, as at Yellowstone caldera, for example,” he told Newsweek.
“Forni et al. suggest that a large, highly-evolved, and relatively cold magma layer may be absorbing most of the energy we send down to reconstruct deeper structures. This problem is typical of sub-basaltic, oceanic settings, where deeper reservoirs are invisible to seismic imaging. Their findings open the possibility to model the effects of these magmatic layers on monitoring recording, thus allowing to reconstruct their shape and dimensions and eventually see below them.”
Volcanologist Christopher Kilburn, from the U.K.'s UCL, who was also not involved in the study, said the results are consistent with observed changes that took plalce during past eruptions: "It thus provides an alternative interpretation to be tested against conventional ideas," he said.
"Should an eruption occur, the best guess is that it will have a size and behaviour similar to that seen during past 15,000 years or so--hence ranging from the size of the last eruption (Monte Nuovo, 1538, 0.02 cubic km) to something similar to the eruption of Vesuvius that overwhelmed Pompeii and Herculaneum (c. one cubic km). These are the scenarios being used to prepare mitigation plans.
"The paper changes tack in its final paragraph. Having argued that the 1538 eruption represents the squeezing out of magma from the vestige of a magma reservoir, it suggests that CO2 emissions indicate the possible replenishment of the reservoir and, thus, hints at the possible start of a build-up to a 'large-volume eruption.' This statement is speculative and does not depend on the preceding results."
10 jaar is naar verhouding een paar seconden voor een vulkaan.quote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 09:39 schreef Lothiriel het volgende:
Heb dit topic nu even gelezen & het bestaat al bijna 10 jaar nu en in elk bericht staat dat de vulkaan gaat uitbarsten en het is nog steeds niet gebeurd
Heb zo het idee dat ze er weinig over weten en snappen en dus maar wat onheilsberichten de wereld in slingeren. Als het gebeurt dan gebeurt het he, de mens kan een vulkaanuitbarsing niet stoppen
Weet ik, maar dat maakt juist dat onheilberichten geen enkel nut hebbenquote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 09:47 schreef nogeenoudebekende het volgende:
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10 jaar is naar verhouding een paar seconden voor een vulkaan.
In bijna alle artikelen staat ook dat het gaat gebeuren maar dat het ook over 200 jaar kan gaan gebeurenquote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 09:39 schreef Lothiriel het volgende:
Heb dit topic nu even gelezen & het bestaat al bijna 10 jaar nu en in elk bericht staat dat de vulkaan gaat uitbarsten en het is nog steeds niet gebeurd
Heb zo het idee dat ze er weinig over weten en snappen en dus maar wat onheilsberichten de wereld in slingeren. Als het gebeurt dan gebeurt het he, de mens kan een vulkaanuitbarsing niet stoppen
Oke fair enoughquote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 10:09 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
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In bijna alle artikelen staat ook dat het gaat gebeuren maar dat het ook over 200 jaar kan gaan gebeurenIn 2020 zou een zogenaamde "tusseneruptie" kunnen plaatsvinden. (Zie artikel Volkskrant vandaag die ik niet ga (mag) linken). Een eruptie op kleinere schaal maar de grote klapper zou over enkele honderden jaren zo maar kunnen. Op de schaal van een supervulkaan is dat 'best dichtbij'.
Ik durf deze uitspraak ook gerust te doen over alle andere vulkanen ter wereld, actief of niet..quote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 09:12 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
Scientists do not say that a large eruption is imminent—but they do suggest that current conditions at Campi Flegrei indicate one could happen at "some undetermined point in the future."
Had ik ook hoor.. tot een jaar of wat terug... ik kende alleen Etna en Big Brother Vesuvius.. maar schijnbaar ligt er nog een groter gevaar op de loer daarquote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 10:18 schreef Lothiriel het volgende:
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Oke fair enoughInteressant is het zeker! Een eruptie lijkt me wel cool om te kunnen observeren maar niet als het zo veel dood en verderf zou zaaien. Klinkt wel als iets waar ik me verder in wil verdiepen, had eerlijk gezegd nog nooit over deze grotere caldera vulkaan gehoord
Tja,waar lijkt dat ook weer op??Hmmmmmmmm!Oja de klimaathysterie..quote:Op donderdag 15 november 2018 09:39 schreef Lothiriel het volgende:
Heb dit topic nu even gelezen & het bestaat al bijna 10 jaar nu en in elk bericht staat dat de vulkaan gaat uitbarsten en het is nog steeds niet gebeurd
Heb zo het idee dat ze er weinig over weten en snappen en dus maar wat onheilsberichten de wereld in slingeren. Als het gebeurt dan gebeurt het he, de mens kan een vulkaanuitbarsing niet stoppen
Heb jij vakantie op de fp?quote:Op zaterdag 8 december 2018 10:29 schreef Galantfan het volgende:
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Tja,waar lijkt dat ook weer op??Hmmmmmmmm!Oja de klimaathysterie..
Hoezo?Moet dat?quote:Op zaterdag 8 december 2018 10:52 schreef nogeenoudebekende het volgende:
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Heb jij vakantie op de fp?
Terwijl dat een vaststaand iets is en duidelijk al zichtbaar is. Heel wat anders dus hou die onzin bij je svp. Je klinkt net als Trump (en dat wil je niet).quote:
Oja?Zeker van de grafieken van de IPCC?Wat een POLITIEKE organisatie is,geen wetenschappelijke!Alleen opgericht om te PROBEREN om de waanzin van de z.g. CO 2 toename om te zetten in de verdeling van geld over de wereld,meer niet!Ze hebben zelf dat gezegd.Heeft niets met milieu te maken.quote:Op zondag 16 december 2018 13:36 schreef bianconeri het volgende:
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Terwijl dat een vaststaand iets is en duidelijk al zichtbaar is. Heel wat anders dus hou die onzin bij je svp. Je klinkt net als Trump (en dat wil je niet).
Ik ben milieukundige xD.quote:Op zondag 16 december 2018 14:05 schreef Galantfan het volgende:
Oja?Zeker van de grafieken van de IPCC?Wat een POLITIEKE organisatie is,geen wetenschappelijke!Alleen opgericht om te PROBEREN om de waanzin van de z.g. CO 2 toename om te zetten in de verdeling van geld over de wereld,meer niet!Ze hebben zelf dat gezegd.Heeft niets met milieu te maken.
Steden zijn van oudsher gebouwd bij vulkanen vanwege de vruchtbare grond.quote:Op zaterdag 17 november 2018 10:32 schreef Rolstoelvandaal het volgende:
Ik blijf het toch maar raar vinden dat er zoveel mensen midden in een actieve vulkaan wonen. Je ziet de gassen of de borrelende modder op meters van hun huizen. Ondanks alle onderzoek zou die vulkaan zomaar morgen voor problemen kunnen zorgen. Ik zou er niet willen wonen.
quote:Vesuvius earthquakes are no reason to worry
Since about Oct last year (2018), the number of registered micro-quakes under the volcano seems to have increased. Small swarms of tiny quakes have been reported more frequently in various media and can be seen on the published data of the volcano observatory.
One such small swarm can e seen ongoing at the moment, but its significance is highly questionable:
1 They do not carry a signature of magma movement at depth: All are very shallow (0-2 km typically) and extremely small, rarely exceeding magnitude 1 (and no single quake has reached magnitude 3 during more than a year!). Most of them are either caused by human activities in the vicinity of the volcano, while others are from the volcano's normal behavior in its current dormant stage: small adjustments of fluid pressure in the upper hydrothermal system or other factors near the surface, but not magma movements in the deeper reservoir.
2 The visible increase is likely also an artifact caused by improved monitoring devices - earlier, such small tremors could not have been recorded. Vesuvius is probably the most monitored volcano in the world and even the tiniest earth movement is being recorded today.
3 The Volcano Observatory which has a very close eye on the volcano emphasizes repeatedly that the volcano is currently quiet and in normal state. Interpreting these events otherwise should be considered fear-mongering without justified cause.
While it is utmost important to closely monitor a volcano such as Vesuvius, it should be stressed that these quakes are no sign of an impending eruption and are not a reason to worry in particular. Although the volcano almost certainly will erupt again in some future (which could be decades to centuries from now), there is no other sign that Vesuvius is currently becoming more restless.
vermoedelijk omdat het topic niet zo rap gaat...quote:Op zondag 11 juni 2023 17:01 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:
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Euh, ik kan niet posten in dat topic (krijg geen invulveld, en ook geen boodschap "er is al ... dagen niet gepost, klik hier als je toch...").
En als ik één van de posts daar quote krijg ik dezelfde "interface" als bij een gesloten topic (maw geen "preview" of "invoer" button).
https://www.theguardian.c(...)ng-point-study-findsquote:Parts of Italian volcano ‘stretched nearly to breaking point’, study findsParts of Italian volcano ‘stretched nearly to breaking point’, study finds
Campi Flegrei (Phlegraean Fields) near Naples is now in ‘extremely dangerous’ state, say academic experts
Half a million people live on a sprawling volcano in Italy – and the risk of an eruption has never been greater, according to a study.
The Campi Flegrei (Phlegraean Fields) volcano may be less well-known than Vesuvius, but is “extremely dangerous”, study co-author Stefano Carlino told AFP.
Vesuvius wiped Pompeii off the map almost two millennia ago, while the vast volcanic Campi Flegrei area near Naples last spewed lava, ashes and rocks in 1538. But the Campi Flegrei is not one to take lightly – the volcano’s eruption 30,000 years ago is reported to have contributed to the extinction of Neanderthal man.
It can seem less dangerous than it is because, instead of growing into a traditional mountain, the volcano has the shape of a gentle depression 7.5-8.5 miles (12-14km) across. A resurgence of activity in the early 1980s led to the evacuation of 40,000 inhabitants, but the volcano has been relatively quiet since then.
“We’re not saying there will be an eruption, we are saying that the conditions for an eruption are more favourable,” Christopher Kilburn from University College London told AFP.
The tens of thousands of small earthquakes that have taken place since the 1950s weakened the caldera, the basin at the top of the volcano.
And the report – published in Nature’s Communications Earth & Environment journal on Friday – found “parts of the volcano had been stretched nearly to breaking point”.
The quakes have been increasing in number since 2019, while the pressure below has been building. The coastal town of Pozzuoli has been lifted by nearly four metres (13ft) – roughly the height of a doubledecker bus – since the 1950s, it said. The tremors and ground uplift are cumulative, meaning volcanic activity does not need to intensify for an eruption to become more likely.
“An eventual eruption could be preceded by relatively weak signals, such as a smaller rate of ground uplift and fewer earthquakes,” the study’s authors said. They point to the eruption of the Rabaul caldera in Papua New Guinea in 1994, which was preceded by small earthquakes occurring at a 10th of the rate than had occurred during a crisis a decade before.
The probability of a big eruption occurring is “very low”, Carlino said. “What is more likely are small eruptions.”
And while the volcano is closer to rupture, that does not necessarily mean an eruption will take place, Kilburn said. Even if the crust cracks, “the magma needs to be pushing up at the right location for the eruption to occur”, he said.
The researchers used a model based on the physics of how rocks break and applied it in real time to the volcano, which is flat and mostly hidden – either under buildings or coastal waters.
They measured the tremors and ground movements and compared them with previous eruptions of other, similar volcanoes.
“We cannot say with certainty what will happen, what matters is being prepared for any eventuality,” Carlino said.
Five hundred thousand people live in what Italy’s civil protection agency has designated the red zone – the area at highest risk. Another 800,000 people live in the yellow zone.
Authorities have drawn up an evacuation plan, under which residents will be moved out using their own or public transport within three days. The risk level – green, yellow, orange and red – is reviewed monthly.
“The alert level in Pozzuoli is currently yellow,” council spokesperson Giordana Mobilio told AFP, adding that locals receive alerts for all tremors of a magnitude of 1.5 or greater.
Als het plotseling stil wordt dan zijn de rapen gaar, want dat is een teken dat de opbouwende druk nergens meer heen kan.quote:"An eventual eruption could be preceded by relatively weak signals, such as a smaller rate of ground uplift and fewer earthquakes,"
quote:Italian supervolcano may erupt after more than 500 years - study
Researchers emphasize that further investigation is needed to accurately predict the occurrence of an eruption.
The Campi Flegrei supervolcano in southern Italy has reportedly weakened, increasing the likelihood of an eruption, according to new research conducted by University College London (UCL) and Italy's National Research Insititute for Geophysics and Volcanology (INGV).
Using an innovative model that analyzes earthquake patterns and ground uplift, the peer-reviewed study, published in the journal Nature's Communications Earth & Environment, found that certain parts of the volcano have been stretched to the point of potential rupture. However, the researchers emphasize that further investigation is needed to accurately predict the occurrence of an eruption.
The Campi Flegrei volcano has exhibited signs of unrest for over 70 years, with periods of intensified activity in the 1950s, 70s and 80s, followed by a slower phase of unrest in the past decade.
During these periods, tens of thousands of small earthquakes have occurred and the coastal town of Pozzuoli has experienced an uplift of nearly 4 meters (13 feet), equivalent to the height of a double-decker bus.
The study employed a model developed at UCL to assess volcano fracturing. By analyzing earthquake patterns and ground uplift, the researchers concluded that certain sections of the volcano are nearing the breaking point.
Campi Flegrei volcano is moving closer to rupture, not guaranteeing an eruption
Professor Christopher Kilburn, lead author and UCL Earth sciences expert, explained that while the study confirms the Campi Flegrei volcano is moving closer to rupture, it does not guarantee an eruption.
"The rupture may open a crack through the crust, but the magma still needs to be pushing up at the right location for an eruption to occur," he explained. "This is the first time we have applied our model, which is based on the physics of how rocks break, in real-time to any volcano.
This study represents the first application of the model in real-time to an active volcano. Professor Kilburn highlighted the model's accuracy, as it correctly predicted the increasing number of small earthquakes associated with Campi Flegrei's unrest. Adjustments will now be made to improve estimates of the likelihood of new routes being formed for magma or gas to reach the surface.
Dr. Nicola Alessandro Pino from the Vesuvius Observatory, representing the INGV in Naples, emphasized the volcano's weakening state. Despite smaller stresses compared to the last major crisis 40 years ago, parts of the volcano are becoming more vulnerable to rupture.
Campi Flegrei is unique in that it does not resemble a typical volcano. Instead of forming a traditional mountain, it takes the shape of a gentle depression spanning 12-14 kilometers (7.5-8.5 miles), known as a caldera. This unique structure has led to the establishment of a community of 360,000 people on its surface.
Over the past decade, the ground beneath Pozzuoli has been gradually rising at a rate of approximately 10 centimeters (4 inches) per year. Additionally, a significant number of small earthquakes have been recorded since the mid-1980s, with April registering the highest monthly count of over 600.
These disturbances are attributed to the movement of fluids approximately 3 kilometers (2 miles) below the surface, possibly including molten rock (magma) and volcanic gas. The ongoing phase of unrest appears to be driven by magmatic gas seeping into rock fractures, permeating the 3-kilometer-thick crust.
The earthquakes result from faults slipping due to crustal stretching. Analysis of earthquake patterns from 2020 suggests that the rock is exhibiting inelastic behavior, breaking rather than bending.
Dr. Stefania Danesi from INGV Bologna highlighted the challenge of deciphering underground activities and the reliance on interpreting clues provided by the volcano, such as earthquakes and ground uplift.
The researchers emphasized that the unrest observed since the 1950s has cumulative effects. Consequently, an eruption may be preceded by weaker indicators, such as a reduced rate of ground uplift and fewer earthquakes.
The researchers stressed that an eruption is not inevitable. Dr. Stefano Carlino from the Vesuvius Observatory explained that, like other volcanoes that have remained dormant for generations, Campi Flegrei might establish a new pattern of gentle uplift and subsidence or return to a state of rest. Preparedness for all possible outcomes is crucial.
Als iets als dit uitbarst vraag ik me af of een rampenplan voor een dorpje in de buurt überhaupt enige zin heeftquote:Op vrijdag 16 juni 2023 16:46 schreef MissButterflyy het volgende:
Toevallig nog geweest een paar dagen geleden en er wonen echt heel veel mensen in dat gebied. Mocht de vulkaan uitbarsten is dat een enorme ramp.
Er liggen schijnbaar 5 dorpen vlakbij waarvan 3 niet eens een rampenplan hebben gemaakt mocht het tot een uitbarsting komen.
Naples en omgeving is prachtig en de mensen zijn heel vriendelijk maar ook zeer chaotisch, veel zaken daar hebben ze niet op orde.
Laten we hopen dat de uitbarsting nog wat honderden of duizenden jaren op zich laat wachten.
Uiteraard. Maar stel je voor: alles wijst erop dat die uitbarsting snel komt omdat een groot oppervlak grond omhoog komt. Moet je dan niet een plan van aanpak hebben?quote:Op vrijdag 16 juni 2023 16:55 schreef heywoodu het volgende:
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Als iets als dit uitbarst vraag ik me af of een rampenplan voor een dorpje in de buurt überhaupt enige zin heeft
Jezelf redden en op een vlucht naar Australië springen.quote:Op vrijdag 16 juni 2023 17:58 schreef MissButterflyy het volgende:
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Uiteraard. Maar stel je voor: alles wijst erop dat die uitbarsting snel komt omdat een groot oppervlak grond omhoog komt. Moet je dan niet een plan van aanpak hebben?
Dat is ook een caldera, idd.quote:Op vrijdag 16 juni 2023 18:11 schreef Netsplitter het volgende:
Eigenlijk precies hetzelfde als wat ik lees/hoor over Yellowstone.
quote:The Campi Flegrei volcano in southern Italy is weakening and potentially erupting.
There are enormous calderas with a width of more than 5 km at one in ten historically active volcanoes. These volcanoes frequently experience several periods of instability over many years before erupting, depending on their forerunners’ additive impacts. As a result of the potential for structural changes in the crust, these episodes have the potential to sow discord and invalidate traditional eruption predictions.
Researchers from the National Research Institute for Geophysics and Volcanology (INGV) in Italy and the University of California, Los Angeles (UCL) have found that the Campi Flegrei volcano in southern Italy is deteriorating and more prone to erupting.
Volcanoes that reawaken after a long period of dormancy shatter the crust before magma can erupt. Repeatable seismicity fluctuations with ground movement precede rupture, tracing applied stress from local earthquakes. Since 2004, a rupturing sequence has developed at Italy’s Campi Flegrei caldera.
The volcano last erupted in 1538 and has been unrest-free for more than 70 years, with two-year increases in the 1950s, 1970s, and 1980s and a slower period in the past ten years. During these times, tens of thousands of minor earthquakes have occurred, and the coastal town of Pozzuoli has risen by almost 4 meters.
The study, published in Nature Communications Earth & Environment, used a fracturing volcano model created at UCL to evaluate earthquakes and ground uplift patterns and determined that portions of the volcano had been stretched nearly to breaking point.
Lead author Professor Christopher Kilburn (UCL Earth Sciences) said, “Our new study confirms that Campi Flegrei is moving closer to rupture. However, this does not guarantee an eruption. The breach may have opened a break in the crust, but magma must still be moving up in the appropriate place for an eruption.
The study is the first of its sort to forecast a rupture at an active volcano, marking a significant step forward in their goal of improving eruption forecasts worldwide.
They used the model for the first time in 2017. Campi Flegrei has behaved exactly as they predicted, with an increasing number of small earthquakes indicating pressure from below.
They will now have to revise our procedures for estimating the likelihood of new routes for magma or gas reaching the surface.
Dr. Nicola Alessandro Pino from the Vesuvius Observatory, representing the INGV in Naples, said, “Our results show that parts of the volcano are weakening. This means it might break even though the stresses pulling it apart are smaller than during the last crisis 40 years ago.”
Campi Flegrei is the nearest active volcano to London, with a mild depression 12-14 km across that explains why 360,000 people live on its roof.
The ground beneath Pozzuoli has been rising at around 10 cm (4 in) per year for the past decade. Persistent minor earthquakes have also been recorded for the first time since the mid-1980s. The flow of fluids around 3 km (2 miles) beneath the surface, some of which may be molten rock, magma, or natural volcanic gas, has created the disruption.
De hele aarde krijgt dan de kleur van dit forumquote:Op dinsdag 4 juli 2023 10:34 schreef Starhopper het volgende:
Hoe gevaarlijk is deze vulkaan? Wat gaan we merken als hij tot uitbarsting komt?
quote:Op dinsdag 4 juli 2023 10:46 schreef Hatseflats22 het volgende:
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De hele aarde krijgt dan de kleur van dit forum
Afhankelijk van het soort uitbarsting en de duur ervan... dit soort vulkanen zijn in staat om kleine uitbarstingen te produceren die op kleine schaal en regionaal voor problemen kan zorgen. Zoals omleiding vliegverkeer, kleine evacuatiesquote:Op dinsdag 4 juli 2023 10:34 schreef Starhopper het volgende:
Hoe gevaarlijk is deze vulkaan? Wat gaan we merken als hij tot uitbarsting komt?
Ooh dus een uitbarstende supervulkaan gaat niet altijd met een enorme BIEM. Dat neemt wat zorgen weg. Laten we hopen op een mooie uitbarsting zonder al teveel narigheid maar wel toffe plaatjes.quote:Op dinsdag 4 juli 2023 10:48 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
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Afhankelijk van het soort uitbarsting en de duur ervan... dit soort vulkanen zijn in staat om kleine uitbarstingen te produceren die op kleine schaal en regionaal voor problemen kan zorgen. Zoals omleiding vliegverkeer, kleine evacuaties
Tevens kunnen de uitbarstingen groter zijn waarbij je moet denken aan een grotere straal rondom het eruptie punt waar zich magma/lava naar toe verplaatst, zware asval in de regio, weken lang vliegverkeer, honderdduizenden evacuees
Maar worst-case scenario is een complete uitbarsting die weken duurt waarbij de complete baai platgelegd wordt, miljoenen moeten verhuizen en dan kom je op een situatie dat er zoveel as in de lucht kan komen dat de zon wordt geblockt en mogelijk een jaar zonder-zomer / geen daglicht / geen fotosynthese meer / planten dood etc etc
Wereldwijde afkoeling/ramp.
Maar goed, laatst genoemde lijkt minst waarschijnlijke maar supervulkanen kunnen dat veroorzaken. Naar verluidt zijn er 7 op aarde waar dit er één van is en Yellowstone de bekendste is.
Laatste eruptie van een supervulkaan was Toba zo'n 70000 jaar geleden.
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