Pos. | Naam | Team | Punten |
1 | M. Webber | Red Bull | 93 |
2 | J. Button | McLaren | 88 |
3 | L. Hamilton | McLaren | 84 |
4 | F. Alonso | Ferrari | 79 |
5 | S. Vettel | Red Bull | 78 |
6 | F. Massa | Ferrari | 67 |
7 | R. Kubica | Renault | 67 |
8 | N. Rosberg | Mercedes | 66 |
9 | M. Schumacher | Mercedes | 34 |
10 | A. Sutil | Force India | 22 |
11 | V. Liuzzi | Force India | 10 |
12 | R. Barrichello | Williams | 7 |
13 | V. Petrov | Renault | 6 |
14 | J. Alguersuari | Toro Rosso | 3 |
15 | N. Hülkenberg | Williams | 1 |
16 | K. Kobayashi | BMW Sauber | 1 |
17 | S. Buemi | Toro Rosso | 1 |
18 | P. de la Rosa | BMW Sauber | 0 |
19 | H. Kovalainen | Lotus Racing | 0 |
20 | K. Chandhok | HRT | 0 |
21 | L. Di Grassi | Virgin Racing | 0 |
22 | B. Senna | HRT | 0 |
23 | T. Glock | Virgin Racing | 0 |
24 | J. Trulli | Lotus Racing | 0 |
Pos. | Team | Punten |
1 | McLaren | 172 |
2 | Red Bull | 171 |
3 | Ferrari | 146 |
4 | Mercedes | 100 |
5 | Renault | 73 |
6 | Force India | 32 |
7 | Williams | 8 |
8 | Toro Rosso | 4 |
9 | BMW Sauber | 1 |
10 | Lotus Racing | 0 |
11 | HRT | 0 |
12 | Virgin Racing | 0 |
Datum | Tijd | Programma |
Za 12 juni | 18.55-20.15 uur | RTL GP: Formule 1 - Canada - Kwalificatie |
Zo 13 juni | 17.00-17.55 uur | RTL GP: Formule 1 - Canada - Pre-show |
Zo 13 juni | 17.55-20.10 uur | RTL GP: Formule 1 - Canada - Race |
Datum | Tijd | Programma |
Za 12 juni | 18.00-20.15 uur | BBC2: Formule 1 - Canada - Kwalificatie |
Zo 13 juni | 17.05-20.15 uur | BBC1: Formule 1 - Canada - Race |
Ma 14 juni | 1.00-2.15 uur | BBC3: Formule 1 - Canada - Samenvatting |
Dag | Minimum | Maximum | Neerslagkans | Weerbeeld |
Vrijdag | 14 °C | 24 °C | 20 % | deels bewolkt |
Zaterdag | 16 °C | 22 °C | 40 % | buien |
Zondag | 15 °C | 24 °C | 50 % | buien |
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/quote:Today was cold and wet in Montreal, creating a subdued atmosphere after all the feverish excitement of the last Grand Prix in Istanbul.
The drivers did their press briefings early to accommodate European press deadlines and predictably much of the talk was about the right and wrong ways of racing a team mate and about the risks of driving close to the walls here in Montreal.
The body language of Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber was interesting. Webber went first, sheltered under an awning with rain bouncing off the umbrellas and onto the media. When the subject of Turkey came up, he folded his arms, a traditional defensive gesture. He is obviously still uncomfortable with this situation even though he said, “I’m cool. I’m totally over it.”
He had nothing to hide, after all he’s come out of this episode the best, with the Red Bull management going through several phases of blame-laying, finally arriving at Christian Horner’s interview with BBC yesterday in which he said that the team had been wrong to blame Webber after the race. Horner repeated that this afternoon with us in the paddock.
On top of that Webber has landed a new deal with the team for 2011, so it’s been a positive outcome from a difficult situation. But he doesn’t look very triumphant, or even particularly pleased. The episode still rankles, I reckon.
Clearly there have been some hard words behind closed doors.
As for Vettel, he handled himself very well in a difficult situation. He had some of the English tabloid journos trying to goad him, asking if he felt he had anything to apologise for and whether indeed he was even capable of saying sorry.
He covered it well, saying, “I did what I did, if I had my time again I wouldn’t do anything different.”
At one point he started to get a bit shirty, saying that he would like to move on and talk about the future, but he got hold of himself quickly and carried on his laconic, half-smiley delivery and going over what happened when he turned into Webber. It was as if he suddenly realised that all these hacks surrounding him was a compliment to him and he rose above it. It was impressive maturity for a 22 year old.
It’s hard not to like Vettel. He has a calm, easy way about him and impressive intelligence. I asked him whether he regretted that the episode had blown open the debate about him being the favoured son at Red Bull, due to their massive investment in the young driver programme. F1 fans don’t like driver with a sense of entitlement -just ask Lewis Hamilton. He has suffered from that since McLaren nurtured him into F1. It won’t be until the end of his career, probably, that he is able to shake that off.
Vettel said that he doesn’t regret it, because he accepts that at the top of this business the media will take a view and you have to accept it and focus on the racing. He has sustained some collateral damage over this, mostly because of the reaction of Helmut Marko immediately after the incident and it’s just something he has to deal with.
The other drivers were talking today about this Montreal track and the thrill of racing close to the walls, knowing how finely to judge it. The two outstanding Montreal exponents, Hamilton and Robert Kubica had a lot to say on the subject.
As I posted in the last LG Tech Report, one of the great skills of an F1 driver is judging risk. They work their way up to the limit and every corner is about a micro-decision on how far to push their luck. In Istanbul if they make a mistake they go for a jaunt across acres of asphalt run off. Here in Montreal they hit a wall and it brings out a safety car.
It’s not often that you get the modern drivers to talk about existential subjects like risk taking. They conversation tends to be either factual or opinion. It is especially fitting that we should be discussing risk at a track named after Gilles Villeneuve, F1’s ultimate risk-taker.
Drivers take calculated gambles at every corner, based on the consequences. On a track like Montreal the consequences can be severe, as they were for Alonso in Monaco for example, and it is about closing the gap between what is comfortable and what is fast, finding the limit.
” I like when the walls are close and there is a very small margin for a mistake,” said Kubica. “It’s always more challenging and it gives you more fun to drive. I am a big fan of street circuits, but I’m also a big fan of safety because I have been through a big crash, here in Canada. Thanks to a big effort of the FIA and the teams becomes much safer and I am still here. Otherwise if would crash here ten years ago with such a big impact as I had, most probably I wouldn’t be here.”
“A lot of us like the street circuits where there is less room for error,” said Hamilton. “Here you can be really close to the walls and there is a real danger factor. The tyres grain here too and if you go off line it’s easy to crash.”
And this brings the whole discussion full circle really, because assessing risks is also a crucial factor when racing against another car, especially if it is your team mate. When you race another car the consequences of a mistake are far less severe than if you collide with your team mate. Both Webber and Vettel failed to assess those risks properly in Istanbul and that is because they were motivated by a desire to get the upper hand over each other at a vital point in the season.
We are told that they have learned from the experience, but what that really means is that they have had their risk assessment retuned by the team. The competitive tension is undoubtedly still there.
Ik kijk naar alle races uit, alleen naar sommigen meer dan anderen.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 08:54 schreef franklop het volgende:
Bijna zonder uitzondering altijd spectaculaire races hier, kijk er echt naar uit
Volgens mij zenden ze dit jaar aardig wat uit. Ook op eurosport2 misschien? En hadden ze ook niet een 24h livestream?quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 08:50 schreef vosss het volgende:
Wordt Le Mans eindelijk eens helemaal uitgezonden op Eurosport ipv telkens een half uurtje wat updates?
Zend carchannel hem niet compleet uit? Volgens mij doet eurosport weer van die blokjes van een uurtje.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 08:50 schreef vosss het volgende:
Wordt Le Mans eindelijk eens helemaal uitgezonden op Eurosport ipv telkens een half uurtje wat updates?
Toffe OP trouwens en goed dat ie dit jaar weer op de kalander staat. Mooie baan. Een van de mooiere zelfs als je het mij vraagt
Ben benieuwd wie er dit jaar in terecht komt.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 11:13 schreef Sinister-D- het volgende:
CanadaZoals Vosss ook al zei. Een van dé circuits waar ik echt naar uitkijk samen met Silverstone, Spa, Monza en -zeker niet vergeten- Suzuka
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The Wall of Champions(staat dat ding daar nog wel
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Inderdaad, jammer dat Eikelstein zich daar niets van aan trektquote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 12:30 schreef CloseToTheEdge het volgende:
Grand Prix van Canada volledig uitverkocht
Kijk, daar zitten de echte liefhebbers en niet in China, Turkije, Zuid-Korea en Bahrein.
Die maakt het niet uit hoeveel bezoekers er komen als er maar betaald wordt.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 12:33 schreef Tarado het volgende:
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Inderdaad, jammer dat Eikelstein zich daar niets van aan trekt
Dat. Helaas.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 12:56 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:
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Die maakt het niet uit hoeveel bezoekers er komen als er maar betaald wordt.
Ow Suzuka was ik inderdaad vergetenquote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 11:13 schreef Sinister-D- het volgende:
CanadaZoals Vosss ook al zei. Een van dé circuits waar ik echt naar uitkijk samen met Silverstone, Spa, Monza en -zeker niet vergeten- Suzuka
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The Wall of Champions(staat dat ding daar nog wel
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Alonso mist nog in dat filmpje. Is één van zijn (toen) zeldzame fouten.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 11:13 schreef Sinister-D- het volgende:
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The Wall of Champions(staat dat ding daar nog wel
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quote:However, on lap 39, Alonso ran wide through a chicane and hit a wall, damaging his suspension and forcing him from the race.
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Op maandag 12 oktober 2009 00:26 schreef vosss het volgende:
:*-je voor Sally, gewoon omdat ik haar lief vind :@
Thanks man, doet het idd al een tijd goedquote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 20:19 schreef Automatic_Rock het volgende:
Deze werkt prima: http://www.atdhe.net/2015(...)du-canada-practice-2
Dit jaar met volgetankte auto's helemaal. Om maar te zwijgen over de Red Bull'squote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 20:51 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
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Thanks man, doet het idd al een tijd goed
Was Montreal nou dat circuit waar iedereen problemen kreeg met ze remmen op t eind?
Ja, wordt nog spannend inderdaad met die volgetankte auto's waardoor de remmen op het begin flink slijten.quote:Op vrijdag 11 juni 2010 20:51 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
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Thanks man, doet het idd al een tijd goed
Was Montreal nou dat circuit waar iedereen problemen kreeg met ze remmen op t eind?
Ik hoop dat ze bij Red Bull Racing ook zulke foutjes maken.quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 12:04 schreef Stiggie het volgende:
Morgen omweer en regen verwacht zie ik op formula1.comen vandaag kans op regen
quote:Teams face Montreal tyre dilemma
Overnight rain and lower than expected temperatures in Montreal on Saturday morning have left teams facing a nightmare dilemma over tyre strategies for the Canadian Grand Prix - that could blow open the battle for pole position.
A number of drivers complained about bad graining on the super soft tyres in free practice on Friday, and Bridgestone chiefs think the tyre choices for qualifying will not be straightforward.
Overnight showers have washed away any rubber laid down on Friday, and the track temperature is no warmer than yesterday. Bridgestone's director of motorsport tyre development Hirohide Hamashima says current predictions are that a standard one-stop will be impossible.
Furthermore, he also thinks that with the frontrunning teams likely to opt to qualify on the medium tyre, there is a chance slower outfits may gamble on taking the supersoft option in Q3 - to get themselves at the front of the grid. That could result in a surprise car being on pole position.
"FP3 will be very, very important to compare between the option and the prime to see if the option is quick," said Hamashima. "If that is the case then maybe the grid will be interesting. Someone could take a risk with the option tyres for qualifying, and in that case we could have a little bit of a different story from the past races."
The graining experienced on Friday was caused by the tyres actually tearing, rather than excessive temperature, and Hamashima thinks the situation is on a knife-edge for teams.
"It is not normal graining because it seems the rubber is tearing, so not melting," said Hamashima. "The graining itself is a bit different, because the surface itself is very, very smooth – and smoother than two years ago. So the tyre isn't gripping, it isn't getting the proper temperature and there is no deformation - which is why the rubber tears off."
Hamashima thinks that the title-fighting teams may be forced to choose tyres that are better for the race than qualifying – with the top ten drivers having to start the race on the tyres they set their best qualifying lap on.
"I reckon it will be a minimum of two stops according to the current data," said Hamashima. "Maybe the top teams will use the supersoft in Q1 and then for Q2 and Q3, maybe they will use prime.
"With the current situation – the lap time difference between the prime and option tyre is very small. The super soft has better traction, however, it is poor with lateral support so the lap time itself is not so better. Also when the car is heavy, the option tyre is slower than the prime tyre – about 0.6 seconds."
Hamashima estimates that the current degradation prediction suggests that the medium will lose 7.0 seconds per half race distance, with the option a whopping 16.2 seconds per half race distance.
"Maybe the teams will start with the prime, then next stop prime, and then a very short stint with super soft. That looks like the best way."
When asked if anyone could risk trying a one-stop strategy, Hamashima said: "It's currently impossible. Even for very slow people, it's very, very difficult.
"In 2008 we saw the track improvement over the weekend was quite dramatic – and in that case they could use the super soft. But the current temperature is not so high, so it will be very, very difficult."
quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 15:51 schreef LWD-Godius het volgende:
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Ik hoop dat ze bij Red Bull Racing ook zulke foutjes maken.
quote:Mercedes' Nico Rosberg had to sit out most of the hour with clutch issues, only getting out for a very brief run at the end, leaving him 18th.
Volgens mij zijn dat de snelste sectortijden p.p.quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 18:36 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
Gek dat die sectortijden erachter niet bij t rondje lijken te horen..
nog nie heeft beginquote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 18:46 schreef ThePianoMan het volgende:
wie heeft gewon?
Mooi!quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 12:04 schreef Stiggie het volgende:
Morgen omweer en regen verwacht zie ik op formula1.comen vandaag kans op regen
edit : Petrov, maar waar is VET dan ?quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 19:21 schreef chufi het volgende:
Waarom staat er PET ipv VET of is dat een andere rijder?
Irritant is dat he, dat ze nr 1 laten zien, en dan 7 tm 24quote:
Ah OKquote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 19:27 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
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Irritant is dat he, dat ze nr 1 laten zien, en dan 7 tm 24
quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 19:00 schreef Mikkie het volgende:
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Mooi!Heb net ingeschakeld, even kijken of Schumacher een potje kan breken.
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...quote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 19:36 schreef ThePianoMan het volgende:
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okwaarom zie ik plaatjes van rijdende bolides dan?
duwenquote:Op zaterdag 12 juni 2010 20:03 schreef Crientj het volgende:
Haha, bovenop die wagen. geniaaaaal.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84404quote:Lewis Hamilton was fined and reprimanded by the Canadian Grand Prix stewards following qualifying for the Montreal event.
Right after securing pole position, Hamilton was instructed by his McLaren team to stop the car on track as he was nearly out of fuel and some of it was still needed for the sample for the post-qualifying inspection.
Hamilton stopped his engine but kept his car moving while he seated on top of it as he celebrated his first pole of the year. He then got off the car and started pushing it.
The stewards deemed Hamilton had exceeded the maximum time set to return to the pits after the end of qualifying, and the Briton was fined USD10,000 and given a reprimand.
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