quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:02 schreef pberends het volgende:
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China vreest obligatiecrisis
lees dit maar eens goed door.
ben blij dat ik mijn calls die ik 2 weken geleden gekocht had voor hetzelfde geld weer heb kunnen verkopen vanmiddag en heb puts weer gekocht, eindelijk weer eens een goede tradequote:
Wat?quote:
Nee, het stond al die tijd in de ondertitel van BS terwijl ik nooit wist wat het betekende. Ik moest wel lachen na de betekenis opgezocht te hebben op Googlequote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:39 schreef capricia het volgende:
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Wat?
Ben je nu al te nat om te zeuken?
Ja, te nat om te zeuken dus...(quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:41 schreef Mendeljev het volgende:
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Nee, het stond al die tijd in de ondertitel van BS terwijl ik nooit wist wat het betekende. Ik moest wel lachen na de betekenis opgezocht te hebben op Google
Is die 121M niet gewoon de free float? Het vrij verhandelbare gedeelte?quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:45 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Even een vraagje over Heijmans. De marketcap is 121 miljoen. Ze gaan voor 100 miljoen nieuwe aandelen uitgeven, dat is nogal wat! Dat is een verwatering van meer dan 40%.
Ik ben ook negatief over Heijmans, maar short ga ik er ook nog niet op.quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:45 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Even een vraagje over Heijmans. De marketcap is 121 miljoen. Ze gaan voor 100 miljoen nieuwe aandelen uitgeven, dat is nogal wat! Dat is een verwatering van meer dan 40%.
Waarom blijft de koers dan zo goed liggen? Ondersteunt de begeleidende bank dat of gaan mensen er van uit dat na deze uitgifte de kaspositie zoveel verbeterd is dat dit koersniveau aanvaardbaar is?
En wat verwachten jullie op de termijn van 3 maanden van het aandeel?
Don't short a dead horse. Ik zou niet long of short op Heijmans gaan.quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:51 schreef M.Melandri het volgende:
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Ik ben ook negatief over Heijmans, maar short ga ik er ook nog niet op.
Op DFT staat het niet duidelijk, maar IEX vermeldt een marktcapitalisatie van 620M bij een koers van 25 euro, dus het zal wel kloppen.quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 21:48 schreef Mendeljev het volgende:
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Is die 121M niet gewoon de free float? Het vrij verhandelbare gedeelte?
Bouwmarkt aantrekken... op zijn vroegst ergens eind 2010 ofzoquote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 22:05 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Ik wil ook niet shorten maar best wel op een goed moment instappen. Het EV is erg hoog en de verwachte winst in 2012 is 2 euro per aandeel. Als de kapitaalpositie door deze emissie nu substantieel verbeterd, de bouwmarkt weer aantrekt en je kunt ze met 40% korting kopen dan heb ik hier wel oren naar. Nu heb ik vooral BAM. Spreiden is verblijden.
Winst per aandeel is volgensmij bij BAM ook erg goed. Toch zou ik niet weten wat ik er van zou moeten verawachten.quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 22:05 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Ik wil ook niet shorten maar best wel op een goed moment instappen. Het EV is erg hoog en de verwachte winst in 2012 is 2 euro per aandeel. Als de kapitaalpositie door deze emissie nu substantieel verbeterd, de bouwmarkt weer aantrekt en je kunt ze met 40% korting kopen dan heb ik hier wel oren naar. Nu heb ik vooral BAM. Spreiden is verblijden.
De Fed is het met ons eens:quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 20:49 schreef SeLang het volgende:
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Het gaat ook niet om het level van 3,7% dat we op dit moment hebben maar om het feit dat de rente explosief aan het stijgen is terwijl de FED honderden miljarden uitgeeft om die rente omlaag te brengen. De FED heeft dus geen control meer. Dat is nogal verontrustend als je bedenkt dat dat de hele markt omhoog wordt gehouden met bailouts en manipulaties door de FED.
quote:Mortgage-Bond Yields Jump, Jeopardizing Fed’s Housing Effort
May 27 (Bloomberg) -- Yields on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage bonds rose for a fourth day, after exceeding for the first time yesterday their levels before the Federal Reserve announced it would expand purchases to drive down loan rates.
Yields on Washington-based Fannie Mae’s current-coupon 30- year fixed-rate mortgage bonds climbed to 4.55 percent as of 3:15 p.m. in New York, the highest since Dec. 5 and up from 3.94 percent on May 20, data compiled by Bloomberg show.
Rising mortgage-bond yields, driven higher in part by climbing Treasury rates, means the Fed now “faces a challenge to its ability to sustain low mortgage rates,” according to Jeffrey Rosenberg at Bank of America Corp. The Fed, seeking to use lower home-loan rates to stem the housing slump and bolster consumers, said March 18 it would increase its planned purchases of so-called agency mortgage bonds by $750 billion, to as much as $1.25 trillion, and start buying government notes.
“Market participants may be asking themselves the same question as Scorpio in ‘Dirty Harry’: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ ” Rosenberg, the bank’s head of credit strategy research in New York, wrote in a report yesterday, referring to a character in the 1971 Clint Eastwood film who may be shot.
Crashing U.S. home prices have fueled the first global recession since World War II. The Fed, led by Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, may need to again adjust its mortgage-bond buying, after initially announcing the program in November, or boost its purchases of Treasuries, Rosenberg said. Home prices in 20 major metropolitan areas fell more than forecast in March, declining 18.7 percent from a year earlier, according to an S&P/Case Shiller index released yesterday.
‘Extension Pressures’
As rising Treasury yields sparked speculation that higher mortgage rates would extend the average lives of home-loan bonds by reducing the pace of refinancing, holders of the bonds, lenders and servicers began seeking to shorten the durations of holdings to make up for the effect, according to Mahesh Swaminathan, a mortgage-bond analyst in New York at Credit Suisse Group.
Their actions last week started causing interest-rate swap spreads to widen, as they sought to use those contracts to lessen their durations, “a canary in the coal mine pointing to the extension pressures building up,” Swaminathan said in a telephone interview.
Today, they are driving mortgage and government bonds lower, with the Treasury market, which “started the process, now sort of being taken for a ride,” exacerbating the situation, he said.
The average rate on a typical 30-year fixed mortgage was 4.82 percent in the week ended May 21, according to a survey by McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac. Rates are down from 6.46 percent in late October, and up from a record low of 4.78 percent in the first and last weeks of April.
Rising Yields
Yields on agency mortgage bonds are now guiding rates on almost all new U.S. home lending following the collapse of the non-agency market in 2007 and retreats by banks. The almost $5 trillion market includes securities guaranteed by government- controlled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and bonds of government- backed loans guaranteed by federal agency Ginnie Mae.
“Capacity constraints” at lenders dealing with increased mortgage applications since December have caused the rates offered to borrowers to be higher in relationship to the bonds yields than in the past, according to Bank of America and Credit Suisse analysts. That suggests loan rates may not initially rise as yields do.
Yields on benchmark 10-year Treasuries climbed to 3.72 percent today, a six-month high, from 2.54 percent on March 18 and a low this month of 3.09 percent on May 14.
Narrowing Spreads
Treasuries are slumping amid concern that record bond sales will overwhelm demand as U.S. bailout and stimulus spending stems deflation while adding to the nation’s debt burden, and as the economy shows signs of stabilizing.
The difference between yields on Fannie Mae’s current- coupon 30-year fixed-rate mortgage bonds and 10-year Treasuries narrowed to 0.92 percentage point today, from as high as 2.38 percentage points in March 2008, according to Bloomberg data. The Fed’s purchases drove the spread to 0.70 percentage point, the lowest since 1992, on May 22. The yield gap jumped from 0.71 percentage point yesterday.
“Many investors who felt MBS spreads were too tight thought it might be time to take chips off the table,” Credit Suisse’s Swaminathan said. “This is something we anticipated would build up” as many mortgage-bond holders who were previously wary of lightening their positions on the view the Fed buying would continue to support the market finally decided to act.
Rate Threshold
The so-called option-adjusted spread to interest-rate swaps yesterday was negative 0.16 percentage point, the lowest since March 2007 and a level suggesting an investor borrowing funds at the London interbank offered rate to buy the Fannie Mae mortgage securities would lose money, according to Bloomberg data. That spread reached as high as 1.06 percentage points in October, and jumped to positive 0.01 percentage point today.
Mortgage servicers also were dumping the securities because “once rates backed up, they needed to shed duration,” Art Frank, the head of mortgage-bond research at Deutsche Bank AG in New York, said in a telephone interview. “Today, the volume really came out because we crossed what apparently many of them thought was an important threshold” in terms of rates.
Servicers, who handle billing and collections, have contracts whose expected lives extend when the odds of refinancing drop.
Bloomberg current-coupon indexes represent the yields for hypothetical mortgage bonds trading at roughly face value. The levels are typically based on calculations derived from yields on the two groups trading just above and below par because of the size of their coupons, into which lenders typically package new loans.
A swap rate is the fixed yield paid in return for floating- rate payments linked to short-term interest rates, through a derivative contract called a swap. Swap spreads are the difference between those yields and Treasury rates.
2 euro pa is vast niet gebaseerd op 40% verwatering..... en voor de herfinanciering van begin dit jaar...quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 22:05 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Ik wil ook niet shorten maar best wel op een goed moment instappen. Het EV is erg hoog en de verwachte winst in 2012 is 2 euro per aandeel. Als de kapitaalpositie door deze emissie nu substantieel verbeterd, de bouwmarkt weer aantrekt en je kunt ze met 40% korting kopen dan heb ik hier wel oren naar. Nu heb ik vooral BAM. Spreiden is verblijden.
eis van de banken voor de herfinanciering. Ik denk niet dat Heijmans een keuze had.quote:Op woensdag 27 mei 2009 23:43 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Bedankt voor de info. Mijn vertrouwen in het managment van Heijmans is toch al niet zo heel groot (ben getogen in Rosmalen dus hoor ook wel eens wat). Eigenlijk verbetert enkel de kaspositie dus, verder enkel beren bij deze emissie. Waarom doen ze het dan? Ze zullen weinig anders kunnen dus.
Is doorverkopen van die gronden, desnoods met discount, dan geen veel betere optie (voor de zittende aandeelhouders?) Net zoals met die grond in Amsterdam een half jaar terug. En waarom doet de koers niks? Ondersteunt de bank dit?
nou nee, Amstelland is zowat helemaal met geleend geld overgenomen, meen ik.quote:Op donderdag 28 mei 2009 00:16 schreef LXIV het volgende:
Afblijven dus is jouw advies. Wat zijn de essentiele verschillen tussen Heijmans en BAM dan? Heeft laatstgenoemde een betere kaspositie?
Japans PPT gecanceledquote:Japan May Scrap 50 Trillion-Yen Plan to Prop Up Stock Market
By Kyoko Shimodoi and Keiko Ujikane
May 28 (Bloomberg) -- Japan’s ruling Liberal Democratic Party may abandon a bill that would set aside 50 trillion yen ($520 billion) to buy shares from the market because stocks have rebounded from a 26-year low, lawmakers said.
“A system of buying stocks directly may provide a sense of relief when shares plunge,” Naokazu Takemoto, chief director of the LDP’s lower house finance committee, said in an interview in Tokyo on May 26. “But stocks have been stable, so the measures aren’t necessarily that essential.”
Investor optimism that the worst of Japan’s deepest postwar recession is over has led the recovery in the Nikkei 225 Stock Average, which tumbled a record 42 percent last year. Direct purchases would be the first among the Group of Seven industrialized nations and would affect prices more than the Bank of Japan’s program of buying shares from lenders to cushion their balance sheets.
“I don’t think there’s really a crisis in Japanese stocks to begin with,” said Naomi Fink, Japan strategist at Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd. in Tokyo. “It might even undermine Japanese equities because foreigners are going to say ‘wow, the government is propping up prices and how do we know whether it actually reflects the value of the firms or not?’”
The bill was submitted to parliament on April 27 as part of Prime Minister Taro Aso’s record 15.4 trillion yen stimulus package. Under the plan, the government would set up a state- owned entity to buy exchange-traded funds, which are instruments that track stock indexes, as well as equities listed in the indexes and related derivatives for three years.
Raise Money
The body would raise money by borrowing from the Bank of Japan or commercial lenders as well as issuing bonds, and the government would set aside 50 trillion yen to guarantee the investments.
Deliberations on the law haven’t taken place because the opposition Democratic Party of Japan, which controls the upper house, is against the measure. While the ruling coalition can use its two-thirds majority in the lower house to pass the bill if it’s rejected, Takemoto, 68, signaled the LDP may not force the bill through parliament.
“Whether we need to revote and pass the bill even after it’s defeated in the upper house depends on economic conditions,” Takemoto said. “People were split about the bill to begin with and even a majority of lawmakers regarded as economic experts in our party are opposed to the idea.”
Finance Minister Kaoru Yosano said on May 22 that “the argument is losing force” given that stock prices are recovering. The Nikkei has risen 34 percent since March 10, when it fell to 7,054.98, the lowest since October 1982.
Distort Prices
Masaharu Nakagawa, the DPJ’s shadow finance minister, said the party opposes the measure because it may distort stock prices. He said the government should consider buying stakes in financial institutions should plunging equities erode their capital.
“It goes against the market’s mechanisms to begin with,” Nakagawa, 58, said in an interview on May 26. “We’re absolutely against it. Even discussing it would look bad.”
As a separate measure, the government has already set aside 20 trillion yen to purchase stocks owned by banks to bolster their capital. The Bank of Japan has decided to buy 1 trillion yen of shares held by lenders to ease a credit squeeze.
The government last bought stocks owned by financial institutions from 2002 to 2006.
Yoshinori Ohno, an LDP lawmaker who compiled the bill, said even though equities have recovered, it’s important to show the government is committed to preventing a plunge of stock prices given the severity of the current financial crisis.
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