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quote:Bernie fires back at Ferrari
Thanks for the clowns
Oct.5 (GMM) Bernie Ecclestone, the chief mastermind of the night racing concept for F1, has hit back at Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo's claim that the Singapore grand prix was akin to a "circus".
Also lashing out at the lack of overtaking opportunities at new street circuits, and the farcical safety car rules, Montezemolo said last week that "all this is humiliating for F1".
But Ecclestone, F1's chief executive, hinted to Britain's Mail on Sunday newspaper that the attack by Montezemolo was perhaps to divert attention from Ferrari's woeful showing under the city-state's floodlights.
"If the Ferrari president is right about the Singapore grand prix being a circus," he said, "then we have to be grateful to him for providing the clowns."
The 77-year-old is undoubtedly referring to title rival Felipe Massa's botched pitstop, when the Brazilian ripped the fuel hose from the rig and pulled it the entire length of the pitlane.
Ecclestone continued to fire: "After the weekend Ferrari had, their president should have shut up and kept his head down. If Massa loses the world championship, he will know the team were responsible."
The British billionaire also slammed Ferrari's unique pitstop gantry lights system, used instead of a traditional lollipop, as "over the top".
"Why do you want to have some other piece of technology that can go wrong?" Bernie wondered.
Autosportquote:Canadian GP dropped from 2009 calendar
The Canadian Grand Prix has been dropped from the 2009 Formula One calendar, leaving North America with no grands prix next season.
The FIA issued on Tuesday the World Motor Sport Council's decision, with the Montreal race absent for the first time since 1987.
The governing body confirmed an 18-race calendar, including a summer break thanks to having moved the Turkish Grand Prix from August to June.
The WMSC also agreed to give FIA president Max Mosley the authority to deal with the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) for the introduction of "radical measures to achieve a substantial reduction of costs in the championship from 2010."
"Failing agreement with FOTA, the FIA will enforce the necessary measures to achieve this goal," said the FIA in a statement.
"It was further unanimously agreed to allow Formula One teams to equalise engine performance across the field for 2009, pending the introduction of cost-saving measures from 2010," it added.
2009 F1 calendar:
Australia 29 March
Malaysia 5 April
Bahrain 19 April
Spain 10 May
Monaco 24 May
Turkey 7 June
Great Britain 21 June
France 28 June
Germany 12 July
Hungary 26 July
Europe (Valencia) 23 August
Belgium 30 August
Italy 13 September
Singapore 27 September
Japan 11 October
China 18 October
Brazil 1 November
Abu Dhabi 15 November
quote:Opvallend is dat de Nürburgring wel gebruik maakt van de titel 'Grand Prix van Duitsland'. Hierover bestond onenigheid, omdat het circuit in de Eifel niet wilde betalen voor de enorme kosten van het dragen van die naam. De Grand Prix van Europa blijft hierdoor verreden worden in Valencia. Ook bijzonder is de zomerstop, die nu een maand duurt, in plaats van de gebruikelijke drie weken.
Het circuit van Suzuka zal in 2009 ook weer zijn opwachting maken, om vervolgens af te wisselen met Fuji.
Het is inderdaad schandalig dat autosportminnend Noord-Amerika in een paar jaar tijd gewoon compleet van de F1-kalender is verdwenen.quote:Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 17:09 schreef sasquatsch het volgende:
En het begint al verdacht veel op een open EurAziatisch kampioenschap te lijken ipv een wereldkampioenschap. Het is dat Australië en Brazilië nog op de kalender staan.
quote:"It was further unanimously agreed to allow Formula One teams to equalise engine performance across the field for 2009, pending the introduction of cost-saving measures from 2010," it added
Dit dus.quote:Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 16:29 schreef vingerplant het volgende:
Nu ook nog Canada weg?? Een race waar je nog naar uitkijkt omdat er daadwerkelijk nog wat gebeurt omdat de rijders zich een stuk minder kunnen veroorloven? En dan inruilen voor het volgende saaie circuit in het Midden-Oosten....![]()
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En om dat te bereiken gaan de fabrikanten er waarschijnlijk weer miljoenen tegenaan gooien. Tot zover de kostenbesparing.quote:Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 17:37 schreef Fir3fly het volgende:
Dat Canada weg is is jammer maar geen ramp. Wat wel een ramp is:
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Inderdaad. Maar ja, ze mogen geen geld uitgeven, dus dan kunnen ze net zo goed gewoon alle motoren op een testbank leggen en elektronisch de power output begrenzen tot ze allemaal gelijk zijn. Nou ja gelijk... [orwell-mode] Sommige motoren zullen natuurlijk altijd meer gelijk zijn dan anderen [/orwell-mode]quote:Op dinsdag 7 oktober 2008 17:41 schreef ElmarO het volgende:
En om dat te bereiken gaan de fabrikanten er waarschijnlijk weer miljoenen tegenaan gooien. Tot zover de kostenbesparing.
quote:Schumacher Manager Sentenced
Monday, October 06, 2008 - 12:00 PM
Michael Schumacher's long time manager has been sentenced by a German court.
Willi Weber was found guilty of improperly moving money and assets from his defunct company 'Pole Position Marketing', involved in licensing official Schumacher merchandise, before declaring it insolvent.
Bild newspaper reports that he has been sentenced to a term of one-year probation, plus a fine of 720,000 euros.
quote:New F1 Team ?
Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 06:30 AM
Adrian Campos has taken the next step to forming a Spanish formula one team, the country's press reports.
The national El Mundo newspaper claims that the former Minardi driver, who already co-owns a GP2 team with Alejandro Agag, has devised multi-million euro plans to build a wind tunnel "as the next step towards F1".
The project, comprising a 40 per cent scale wind tunnel and seven-poster rig, is to be based in Alzira, located in the Valencia province.
quote:The green grooves of Fuji
Formula 1 will support the FIA's Make Cars Green campaign by running on special green-grooved tyres at the Japanese Grand Prix. Bridgestone, a global partner for the FIA's campaign, launched the Make Cars Green tyre at a ceremony in Tokyo, with support from McLaren-Mercedes and Ferrari and their star drivers Lewis Hamilton, Heikki Kovalainen, Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen.
The initiative aims to demonstrate that those involved in F1 support the FIA's goal of reducing the impact of motoring on the environment.
The link will be strengthened next year when F1 introduces the first energy regenerating hybrid devices, which are aimed at making the sport more relevant to the car industry and to help speed up the use of fuel-efficient technology on public roads.
quote:F1: FIA Sez Formula 1 Can't Survive Past 2009 ???
Formula one might not survive much beyond one more season if teams do not drastically slash costs, FIA president Max Mosley has warned.
On the same day that the World Motor Sport Council gave him the authority to enter talks with the teams' FOTA alliance about "radical" cost cutting measures, Mosley said the futures of up to three teams could be in doubt.
In interview with BBC Sport, he insisted that the problem existed long before the current global financial crisis.
"It really is a very serious situation. If we can't get this done for 2010, we will be in serious difficulty," Mosley said.
He said the loss of two or three teams would mean F1 no longer has a "credible grid".
"We can survive through 2009, but I'm not too sure about after," Mosley said.
He said small teams like Toro Rosso and Force India are being "subsidised" only by billionaires like Dietrich Mateschitz and Vijay Mallya.
"It depends at the moment on millionaires -- billionaires, we don't have millionaires now. Without them, those teams wouldn't be there," he added, suggesting that not only the small teams are in trouble.
"You cannot run a business when the outgoings are two to three times more than what's coming in.
"Some of the manufacturers are already having difficulty if you look at their share prices," he added.
It is clear that Mosley is targeting the standardisation of engines and gearboxes, which he admits would be "draconian" but necessary, as a way to cut millions out of annual budgets.


Maar wat de reden er nou voor is dat we niet meer naar Canada gaanquote:'Beslissing Canada is waarschijnlijk definitief'
Volgens Roger Peart, president van de FIA Circuits Commission, is de beslissing om volgend jaar geen Grand Prix in Canada te houden, zo goed als definitief.
"De FIA heeft er over gestemd en dat was het dan", zei Peart tegen de Canadese krant The Gazette.
"De zaak is beklonken. Het is jammer voor Montreal en het is jammer voor Canada, maar ik denk niet dat iemand dit nog kan veranderen."
Het is voor het eerst sinds 1987 dat Canada niet meer op de kalender staat.
Vind het meer op cyaan lijken. Of ligt dat aan mij?quote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 13:29 schreef Sally het volgende:
Oh, die groene band ga ik nu posten! Bridgestone: groene band mee naar Fuji[/url
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Hmmm, ik vind het geen groene groeven hoor... Dit is vast een andere normale band.
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Misschien betaalden ze niet genoeg?quote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 19:08 schreef Trystar het volgende:
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Maar wat de reden er nou voor is dat we niet meer naar Canada gaan
Waarschijnlijk omdat ze 't nutteloos vinden om voor 1 race naar Noord Amerika te gaan. Kostebesparing jeweetsquote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 19:08 schreef Trystar het volgende:
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Maar wat de reden er nou voor is dat we niet meer naar Canada gaan
Slicksquote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 19:13 schreef ElmarO het volgende:
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Ach, nog drie races en dan zijn we van die krengen af.
Het contract met Canada liep af en ik denk niet dat Canada de hoeveelheid geld wil/kan ophoesten voor Bernie z'n circus als de gemiddelde oliescheik.quote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 19:08 schreef Trystar het volgende:
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Maar wat de reden er nou voor is dat we niet meer naar Canada gaan
Ik kijk de hh welquote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 22:05 schreef TommyGun het volgende:
Weer vroeg op zondagLang geleden, dat wel
Ik ga de muur in elk geval wel missen..quote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 22:31 schreef Atreidez het volgende:
Ben al 3 dagen in rouw... CanadaMijn circuit, wat doe je..
de laatste keer dat het contract verlengd werd, werd er bekend gemaakt dat het tot 2011 verlengd was. Misschien dat er ontbindende voorwaarden in stonden, maar het is niet zo dat het "gewoon" af liep en niet verlengd is.quote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 21:12 schreef Kleffe_Dop het volgende:
Het contract met Canada liep af en ik denk niet dat Canada de hoeveelheid geld wil/kan ophoesten voor Bernie z'n circus als de gemiddelde oliescheik.
quote:Bernie Ecclestone outlines Formula One plan
The landscape of Formula One is to change dramatically with the introduction of a standard engine for all cars in a move designed to make the sport cheaper for aspiring new teams.
Under a Formula One “survival” plan being drawn up by Bernie Ecclestone, the sport’s commercial rights holder, and Max Mosley, the president of the FIA, the engines would each be designed to last for half the season and would potentially reduce the hugely expensive cost of powering the race cars by up to 90 per cent within two years.
Inquiries by The Times have established that Ecclestone and Mosley are planning draconian reforms that will be imposed on the teams as the sport faces up to its environmental responsibility and the imperative to cut costs.
At present, engine development in Formula One is frozen for five years in a regime that started last year. But they are still units that are designed by each team and they are able to be replaced after every two races, so teams and manufacturers are spending tens of millions of pounds each season on “drive-train costs”, which includes spending on engines and gearboxes.
Under the new proposals there will be one standard engine specification, which each team will be able to build, but it will be identical to those of their rivals. The only difference will be the manufacturer’s name on the block. Teams without manufacturer support will have access to the same engine through an independent contractor.
The proposals represent a huge cultural and philosophical shift for an elitist sport that has always been seen as not only a competition between the best drivers in the world but a battle between some of the best engine and car manufacturers, most of whom have long and proud traditions in motor sport.
Ecclestone, who has never been one to worry about sentimentality, is determined that this reform will be put in place by the beginning of the 2010 season and that it will not fall by the wayside, as many apparently radical proposals in Formula One have done in the past.
“The thing I am most excited about is pushing and pushing and pushing the homologated engine idea,” he said yesterday, during the build-up to this weekend’s Japanese Grand Prix at Fuji. “The new engine will be equalised and there will only be two engine changes a year, so costs are going to dramatically come down, and I mean dramatically.”
The spectre haunting the sport is the danger that spiralling costs in increasingly difficult commercial circumstances could force out the smaller teams and leave Formula One struggling to remain a credible championship. Like Ecclestone, Mosley believes that the time has come for radical reform and he is committed to making it happen, with sources close to him underlining that the teams will be presented with a fait accompli if they do not come up with broadly similar ideas.
“There are various things we can do, but the most obvious would be to reduce the cost of the drive-train,” Mosley said after a meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) in Paris on Tuesday. “At present, if you can believe this, the engine and gearbox together, for an independent team, is upwards of ¤30 million (about £23.7 million) a year.
“That could be done for probably 5 per cent of that cost without the person in the grandstand noticing any difference at all. Even those big spenders, if they’re given the opportunity to save ¤100 million or ¤200 million a year, they’ll do so. And we’ve got various means of making sure they don’t spend the money, but it does need some draconian changes.”
Apart from discussions about engines, the WMSC was notable also for the reception given to Ecclestone after he said that he regretted having asked Mosley to stand down as president in the wake of lurid revelations in a newspaper about his private life. Ecclestone is understood to have said that, having been friends with Mosley for 40 years, “when he needed some support I should have given it to him”.
Mosley was described as “genuinely surprised” and “moved” by Ecclestone’s comments. The episode underlines that, notwithstanding the teams, manufacturers and sponsors who want Mosley out, the most powerful man in Formula One has buried the hatchet with his old friend.
Daar hebben ze maar 1 soort motor. Hier mag ieder team nog steeds zijn eigen motor ontwikkelen zolang deze maar aan de zeer strenge (tot dusver onbekende) standaardregels voldoet. En kunnen teams zonder autofabrikant als backup een standaard motor krijgen.quote:Op donderdag 9 oktober 2008 13:48 schreef Giem het volgende:
Ja laten we er gewoon fiat 500 races van maken..
Die groene bandenquote:Op woensdag 8 oktober 2008 13:29 schreef Sally het volgende:
Oh, die groene band ga ik nu posten! Bridgestone: groene band mee naar Fuji[/url
Hier een plaatje ervan:
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Hmmm, ik vind het geen groene groeven hoor... Dit is vast een andere normale band.
Edit: deze is het wel:
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