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  zaterdag 19 juli 2008 @ 14:26:50 #1
145755 kahaarin
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Maandag wordt er duidelijkheid gegeven over wat er met de zaak gaat gebeuren en of er een aanklacht komt, wat al wel duidelijk is:
- Ook al komt de zaak in de kast te liggen, hij wordt niet gesloten.
- De McCanns willen met alle geweld de arguidostatus opgeheven hebben.
- Er is nog onduidelijkheid over in hoeverre de zaak publiek wordt, maw of alles naar buiten gaat komen.

Goed, hopelijk de laatste en moge er eindelijk duidelijk worden wat er is gebeurt.

Een globale tijdslijn:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL1781859420080717?rpc=401&=undefined&pageNumber=4&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true
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LONDON (Reuters) - Madeleine McCann went missing in Portugal in May, 2007, sparking a massive publicity campaign and search.

Here is a timeline of the case:

2007

May 3 - Madeleine McCann goes missing from her bedroom in the Algarve holiday resort of Praia da Luz while her parents Kate and Gerry are dining just 100 yards away.

May 5 - Police say they believe she is still alive and being held within three miles of the crime scene.

May 14 - A British man, Robert Murat, is taken to a police station for questioning. He is later released.

May 30 - The McCanns meet Pope Benedict during a general audience at the Vatican.

June 1 - The couple embark on a tour to publicise their campaign. Countries visited include Spain, Germany, Morocco and the United States.

August 7 - Traces of blood have been found on the wall of the apartment where the girl went missing, local newspaper Diario de Noticias says.

August 11 - Portuguese police Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa tells the BBC that she may be dead.

September 7 - Police name Kate and Gerry McCann as suspects, but bring no charges. September 9 - The couple fly back to Britain with their twins.

October 2 - Goncalo Amaral, the detective leading the investigation, is removed from the case.

October 9 - His replacement is named as senior officer Paulo Rebelo.

October 24 - Spanish TV broadcasts an interview with Gerry and Kate McCann. They describe claims they drugged their daughter as "outrageous".

December 22 - Gerry and Kate McCann issue a Christmas message urging their daughter to "be brave".

2008

January 9 - The parents deny reports that they plan to turn their story into a film.

January 20 - They release new pictures of a possible suspect based on a tourist's account.

February 3 - The head of Portugal's police says authorities were hasty in naming the parents as suspects in her disappearance.

February 13 - Portuguese Justice Minister Alberto Costa says the investigation is close to an end.

February 21 - French police dismiss a possible sighting of the girl near the Mediterranean port city of Sete.

March 19 - The Daily Express and Daily Star apologise to Kate and Gerry McCann and agree to pay them substantial damages.

April 30 - The McCanns reveal in a TV interview that they have boxes full of messages from the public, including hate-mail and a death threat.

May 1 - Gerry and Kate McCann say they believe their daughter is still alive.

May 3 - Madeleine has been missing for one year.

May 12 - Her fifth birthday.

July 1 - Portuguese police send final report on Madeleine's disappearance to public prosecutors, who will decide whether to take any further steps.

July 7 - British police agree to hand over evidence about Madeleine's disappearance to her parents, in a deal aimed at ending a legal bid to force them to disclose the information.

July 17 - Robert Murat, British suspect in Madeleine's disappearance, wins 600,000 pounds in libel damages from 10 British newspapers for "the utter destruction" of his life. Murat was questioned by Portuguese police and declared a formal suspect, but was never charged and denied any involvement.
Een tijdslijn, sure, what happened to:
-Scent of death.
-DNA bewijs.
-Maddy alert gedoe.
-Uitspraken van Metodo3 over dat ze met kerst thuis zou zijn.
-Beschuldigingen van de vriendin van Murat.
-Het dierencrematorium.
-Maddy fund.
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"Maddie Case will be archived next Monday


Reminder....

Maddie Case will be archived next Monday

The process relative to Madeleine McCann disappearance will be available for consultation to the lawyers from next week. The secrecy of justice was not extended and the Public Ministry is getting ready to conclude the final report.

Source: Correio da Manhã
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Portugal's law chief says he will announce a 'solution' next week to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Attorney-general Fernando Pinto Monteiro's words raised the prospect of Kate and Gerry McCann finding out if they will be formally cleared of involvement in their daughter's disappearance.

Although Mr Pinto Monteiro failed to elaborate on what he meant, his comments reinforce speculation the 14-month investigation is finally drawing to a close.

Speaking to Portuguese reporters in Lisbon, Mr Pinto Monteiro said: 'The "Maddie Case" will have a solution on Monday and you will hear of it.'

Prosecutors have been reviewing the final investigation report on Madeleine's disappearance and it would appear Mr Pinto Monteiro will be making his decision early next week, based on their recommendations.

Reports suggested he would announce whether the case would be closed, charges would be brought or the police would be asked to undertake further inquiries.

Madeleine disappeared on May 3 last year, nine days before her fourth birthday.

The McCanns left her, and her twin siblings Sean and Amelie, alone in the flat while they dined with holiday companions at a tapas restaurant 50 yards across their holiday complex in Praia Da Luz.

Madeleine's parents, both doctors from Rothley in Leicestershire, were subsequently designated by Portuguese police as official suspects.

When the case is wrapped up the couple, who have denied any wrongdoing, could be cleared.

However according to reports in a Portuguese tabloid, the Correio da Manha, they could face neglect charges.

The paper said although the 50-page final police report on the case concludes there is no evidence the couple were involved in the disappearance of their daughter, it leaves open the possibility that the McCanns could be charged with abandoning Madeleine and the twins, then aged two.

The charge of abandonment carries a maximum ten-year jail sentence in Portugal, but only if prosecutors can prove the McCanns, both 40, intended to neglect Madeleine.

Ex-pat Robert Murat was the only other individual made an official suspect by Portuguese police. He also has denied any wrongdoing and, if the case concludes, will find out if he will be cleared or face further investigation.

The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the family had not been contacted by the Portuguese authorities.

"We've heard nothing official and our lawyers have heard nothing official," he said.

"It may well be true, but we can't comment because we haven't heard. We're not going to prejudice anything."

He earlier made it clear the family would 'vigorously' defend any neglect charges.

Last week a High Court Judge made an astonishing appeal for Madeleine's abductor to 'show mercy and come forward'.

Speaking as she ordered Lancashire Police to hand over details of 81 potential witnesses to the disappearance, Mrs Justice Hogg called for an end to Kate and Gerry McCann’s suffering and said she prayed Madeleine would be found alive soon.
Handige links:

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?JavaScript=1&search=Madeleine
http://www.mccannfiles.com/index.html
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/
http://the3arguidos.net/viewforum.php?f=1&st=0&sk=t&sd=d&start=0

De voorgaande topics in aflopende volgorde:
* Ouders van Madeleine McCann+Tapas 7 weigeren reconstructie..
* Maddy, nieuwe verhoren van de Tapas 7.
* Maddy, the plot thickens.
* Maddy, the brand new brandname.
* Maddy Mccan - Lekker snuiven met de Tapas 9
* Maddy McCann, de laatste loodjes?
* Maddy MacCann: Loose Change. (15)
* Maddy, the marketing machine and loose ends. (14)
* Maddie McCann: the search continues (13)
* Maddie McCann: Speculaties alom (11)
* Maddie McCann: Thinking the unthinkable (10)
* 'Maddie overleden door slaappillen' (9)
* Madeleine McCann & The Secret Diary (8)
* Madeleine McCann: bezorgde ouders of spin doctors? (7)
* Madeleine McCann: net rond ouders lijkt zich te sluiten (6)
* Madeleine McCann: harde bewijzen tegen ouders (5)
* Madeleine Mccann: Ouders zijn vertrokken uit portugal (4)
* Madeleine McCann: mogelijk binnenkort arrestaties? (3)
* Ouders van Maddie klagen Portugese krant aan (2)
* Verdwijning van Madeleine : Briton Robert Murat, is formal suspect
* Vermist meisje in Portugal is waarschijnlijk begraven.

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door kahaarin op 19-07-2008 14:37:04 ]
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Yes! Thnx Kahaarin!
Vervolg op het eerdere artikel , gelezen op het 3arguidoforum:
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PJ admitted a simulation of the scenario

Dubbelklik op de afbeelding ivm scherpte


The arrival of the dogs that detected cadaver odours and blood traces led the PJ to admit that some of the details where Maddie had been sleeping had been staged to sustain the abduction theory. One of the examples that were pointed out in one of the many reports that were written by the investigators was the fact that the soft toy was on the bed where Maddie slept, a bed that was partially undone. The animals detected odours on the child’s toy, but they did not mark her death on that spot. Which led the PJ to admit that Maddie had died in another area of the house, and then the toy was taken to the bed because it was the most likely spot in case of an abduction. Other details were analysed, like the fact that the furniture was too well positioned and the sofa was completely pushed against the wall.

Details

Investigated leads – The final report is clear. All the leads were investigated, the abduction theory was verified into detail. But the investigation’s main conclusions pointed towards the death of the child in the apartment, on the 3rd of May.

300 policemen were looking for Madeleine McCann during the first days. The PJ stresses that many among them spent several weeks sleeping only a few hours.

2000 diligences were made by the Judiciária during their search for Madeleine. International cooperation was requested on several moments, to exclude several cases of false sightings.

High costs – The PJ spared no costs throughout this investigation. Millions of euros were spent on the investigation into the disappearance, namely on the high payments that were made to the labs that collected the genetic profiles.

Suspicions – Dave’s involvement is considered again
Parents refused technical help

Works with endangered children and approached the McCanns in the Algarve. Found the behaviour strange

Yvone, who earned credentials from the English government to work in situations that involve endangered children, was in the Algarve when Maddie disappeared but the McCanns refused her help. The specialist told the PJ, during two depositions that were made one month apart from each other, that she approached the couple after the first few hours and that the behaviour from both left her with suspicions about their involvement in the disappearance.

The behaviour of David Payne, who was accused by a couple of doctors that spent holidays with him in 2005, of having attitudes that indiciated paedophile practices, also left Yvone intrigued. The McCanns’ friend had called them aside and advised them not to speak to the technician.

Yvone found another detail strange. David’s face was not unfamiliar to her, and the technician believes he might have been inquired before, within some case of sexual abuse. She tried to remember when but failed to locate moment and the circumstances under which she had met him.

The days went by and Yvone continued to think about the issue. She then sent a letter to the English police, where she pointed out the details that she had perceived. Namely, that the bedroom window had not been forced open, that it was not normal for a couple of doctors to leave their children alone and that Kate had reacted in an aggressive manner when she had approached her. She also alerted to the official statistics, that point towards the majority of these cases to involve a cover-up from the families.

Gonçalo Amaral’s book upsets the English

A delegation from the British justice left for London yesterday after having tried, in Portimão, to keep some details of the process under secrecy.

The English, who according to what CM was able to establish, are upset about possible revelations that the book from the former coordinator of the PJ in Portimão may make, tried to request the instruction judge to maintain the secrecy on the forensics reports about the blood traces and cadaver odour that were collected from the apartment at the Ocean Club, but also other parts from the process.

As far as CM was able to establish, the pretentions from the English delegation were denied, except in the case of the identity of persons that have condemnations or a police record of paedophilia which reside in the Algarve or were spending holidays in the region when the facts took place.

The British that were in Portimão are policeman Stuart Prior, one of the senior liaison officers with the Portuguese police, a magistrate and a jurist from SOCA, the British agency that specializes in investigation organized crime.

It is not known whether the trip was made under a rogatory letter or politically negotiated between the governments of both countries.

“In defense of my good name”

The book by Gonçalo Amaral is written in defense of his honour. “I felt the need to reinstate my good name, which was publicly rubbished while the institution that I belonged to for 26 years, the Polícia Judiciária, didn’t allow me to defend myself, or did so institutionally”, Gonçalo Amaral states in a text that justifies the book. In order to carry out that defense, he requested permission from the national directory but never obtained it. The book, which will be presented by Marques Vidal, a former director of the Judiciária, is launched on the 24th of this month, during a session that is scheduled for El Corte Inglés, in Lisbon. source: Correio da Manhã 19.07.2008, paper edition
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[ Bericht 3% gewijzigd door Suko op 19-07-2008 14:46:29 (extra stukje toegevoegd) ]
  zaterdag 19 juli 2008 @ 14:57:24 #3
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Ik krijg als ik dit zo allemaal lees en vooral dan weer het nieuwe verhaal met betrekking tot David Payne heel sterk het gevoel dat er nog een enorme beerput aan ellende open moet komen. Je zou bijna zeggen dat alle indertijd aanwezige kinderen van de Tapas nagekeken zouden moeten worden op sporen van misbruik.
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
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Nog een deeltje uit dezelfde bron:
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Loose notes:

Laboratory | Decisive test – The final report ended up being decisive for the foreseeable archiving of the process. In that document, which CM revealed, the possibility of DNA contamination was admitted.

Archived | AG announced – The day after tomorrow, the AG will release a communication that will most likely announce the archiving of the process. The case will remain pending in Portimão’s Public Ministry, waiting for better evidence.

Reconstitution | Stopped – The reconstitution of the evening of the disappearance was a diligence that was seen as essential in the process. It was stopped because some of the McCanns’ friends did not accept to return.

Wardrobe | Odour detected – The English dogs signaled traces of Maddie’s death behind the sofa and in the bedroom wardrobe. On the bed, the animals didn’t detect anything.

Contamination | Traces – The authorities have no doubts that the contamination of the location made the investigation more difficult. During the first few hours, tens of people entered the bedroom.

Removed | By phone – Gonçalo Amaral was the target of various attacks and was removed by Alípio Ribeiro, by phone, after making a statement to a newspaper.

Letter | Paedophile register – Yvone, in the letter that she sent to the English police, wanted the authorities to verify whether Dave had a register of paedophile activities.

source: Correio da Manhã 19.07.2008, paper edition
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Op zaterdag 19 juli 2008 14:57 schreef livelink het volgende:
Ik krijg als ik dit zo allemaal lees en vooral dan weer het nieuwe verhaal met betrekking tot David Payne heel sterk het gevoel dat er nog een enorme beerput aan ellende open moet komen. Je zou bijna zeggen dat alle indertijd aanwezige kinderen van de Tapas nagekeken zouden moeten worden op sporen van misbruik.
Ik moet alles nog goed lezen maar dat gevoel heb ik ook al een beetje....pffff.
  zaterdag 19 juli 2008 @ 15:46:10 #6
145755 kahaarin
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Op zaterdag 19 juli 2008 15:00 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Ik moet alles nog goed lezen maar dat gevoel heb ik ook al een beetje....pffff.
Dat zou wat zijn zeg, als hij er echt mee te maken zou hebben bedoel ik, hoe zou iemand dat in vredesnaam allemaal voor zich kunnen houden en zelfs de rechercheurs om de tuin kunnen leiden? Bovendien tegen zijn vrienden liegen en hen mee in de afgrond trekken.
Neemt niet weg dat Kate en Gerry gewoon een babysit hadden moeten inhuren.
Het past allemaal wel mooi in elkaar trouwens, mocht dit waar zijn, Payne had best de sleutels van de Scenic kunnen pakken en Maddy kunnen transporteren, hence die bodily fluids.......
be nice or go away
  zaterdag 19 juli 2008 @ 20:03:37 #7
145755 kahaarin
You are my sunshine......
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Ow gossie, overdrijven is ook een vak hoor.......
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The exodus to the sun starts this weekend - but since the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, parents are feeling paranoid about the safety of their offspring. Foreigners think we are mad, reports Lucy Cavendish from Mallorca
You can always spot the English abroad. Not by the way they dress or their sunburnt skin but by how protective they are of their children.

"I feel I can't leave my children alone for a second," says Joanne Brown as she sits in a café next to the beach at Port de Soller in Mallorca. "It's a nightmare. I've always been conscious of where my children are on holiday, but now I feel much more aware of them. If I shut my eyes for a moment, I feel terrified that they won't be there when I open them.

"We did a lot of research before we came here," Joanne continues. "There is a kids' club in the hotel complex and all the staff are English and have been vetted, so we have used it a bit for our seven-year-old, Emily. But we don't use a babysitter at night. We take the children with us. It's an easy place to do that."

Indeed, Port de Soller seems the perfect place for a family holiday. It is small, sweet, pretty, manageable. There are boats bobbing in the harbour, sun-kissed children playing in the sea. There are lifeguards on the beach. A police car drives up and down the cobbled street. There is a tram that goes along the sea front to the town. There aren't many cars.

But ever since last May, when three-year-old Madeleine McCann disappeared from her bedroom in Praia da Luz, Portugal, there is an almost tangible parental fear that underlies family holidays: that someone will take our children and we will never see them again.

Post-Maddie, holidaying abroad has become a minefield. The parameters have shifted. Where once parents might have left children in a play area/on the beach/in a café while they quickly whipped off to go to the loo/order a meal/get some drinks, now we dare not. We reappraise all the time, scan people's faces on beaches, by the swimming pool, in the play area. We are constantly asking ourselves: who is safe? What is safe? Are kids' clubs fine? Are the staff vetted properly?

But is this paranoia universal to all parents or peculiar to the British?

In Port de Soller, the only naked children on the beach are Dutch. The ones in the sea that are not wearing arm bands and float costumes are Italian and Norwegian. They splash around while their parents chat away up on the beach. When I ask a Norwegian couple, Kai Henriksen and Kari-Mette Brunvatne, whether they feel affected by the Maddie case, they both shrug their shoulders and tell me that they believe it could have happened anywhere.

"It hasn't made us change our attitudes," they say, smiling at their children, Michael and Felix, 10 and eight, who are running around everywhere. "We give them the freedom we think they need. We use a babysitter when we go out." Do they have the babysitter checked? They both look at me as if I am mad.

All the British couples I speak to feel differently. One woman tells me how she could never have left her children alone and how shocked she is by people who do. Other mothers clamp their hands over their children's ears at the mere mention of Maddie.

Isobel van der Vegt, an attractive and obviously intelligent mother of two, lives in Twickenham with Focco, her Dutch husband. Their daughter Maria is four, their son Justin is two. "I don't want Maria to hear this," Isobel says, asking Focco to take her to the swings. "She saw the news last year when Maddie went missing and they showed the video of her in that Snow White dress. My daughter has the same dress. It feels too close for comfort, really."

Yet Isobel also believes she would like to give her children more freedom. "It's a difficult one. I would never leave my children alone at night. Never. I could not bear the thought of them screaming and me not being there, but I also would like Maria to have more freedom during the day. I would like her to be able to play on the swings and in the sea without me or my husband hovering over her. Yet I am very reluctant to leave my children alone and it makes holidaying pretty hard. If I want to buy a drink from a café, we all have to go together."

But surely holidays are supposed to be relaxing? Draen Millar and her husband, Jonathan, seem pretty relaxed. They are larking around on the beach with their four children: Louis, seven, Eva, six, John Joe, four, and one‑year-old Alice. Draen and Jonathan have holidayed in Mallorca for the past five years.

"We started coming here when Louis was small. We've never actually left our children alone, but I have friends who've been on a Mark Warner holiday and they say it feels like another world. They've left their kids at night. They say it felt so safe."
http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)haunted-by-fear.html
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Ha ha, dat wilde ik ook net posten ivm het volgende: En misschien stond er iets in die onlangs vrijgegeven documenten wat bewust door het team McCann naar buiten is gelekt, tenslotte stonden daarin een aantal getuigenverklaringen en wijzen mogelijk enkele naar David Payne, of gewoon feiten over hem. Het zou de McCanns nu verdomd goed uitkomen. Ook al vanwege de pedo-kwestie in het algemeen, het Amber Alert. Spreading de fear ook, want er staat héél toevallig een lang artikel in de telgraph: "Madeleine McCann abduction leaves family holidays haunted by fear."

Kijk, het hoeft natuurlijk niet zo te zijn dat David Payne nú verantwoordelijk is voor wat er met Madeleine is gebeurd. Wat ik eerder schreef: "Zou dat The Pact Of Silence zijn geweest? Hij weet iets over de McCanns wat er mogelijk heeft plaatsgevonden, de McCanns weten iets over zijn verleden. Was deze informatie misschien ook onderdeel van die 81 documenten die de McCanns hebben gekregen via het gerechtshof? Ik weet het niet. Kan een enorme spin zijn, een gemeen 'lekje' van het team McCann om het komende nieuws van maandag te overschaduwen, dat hebben ze wel meer geflikt. Slecht nieuws 'verstoppen' met 'nieuws' wat de McCanns even in de luwte houdt. Kan ook een stukje uit het boek van Amaral zijn...Als het allemaal niet waar blijkt dan kan de krant een aanklacht tegemoet zien van de Payne-tjes wegen smaad/laster. Ook het 3arguidoforum moet oppassen. Bespreking van dit nieuws gaat soms erg ver. Iemand suggereerde Murat (die nu een PR-agency heeft ingeschakeld) als bron voor dit nieuws, tenslotte heeft Fiona Payne en twee andere Tapas-vrienden hem aangewezen als verdachte getuige."

Mogelijk hebben de McCanns het altijd al geweten van Payne, tenslotte zijn ze al jaren met die soms wisselende groep op vakantie, ook zoiets vreemds. Een keertje oké, ook soms met familie, maar dit is opvallend, iemand schreef: "2005 a group of doctors go on vacation together to Mallorca. 2006 a group of doctors go on vacation together to Greece. 2007 a group of doctors go on vacation together to Portugal. Slightly different group each time, but always doctors and their families. I wonder if the same person organised all 3 trips?"

Maar het is helemaal onbegrijpelijk dat als de McCanns de achtergrond wisten (if true) dat ze toch hem kennelijk vertrouwde, want wat werd er in de geautoriseerde docu van de BBC > transscript gezegd, op 3 mei: "At 6.30 Gerry McCann asks a friend, David Payne, to pop in on Kate to see if the children are coming down. He goes to the flat, he says all is well, but the children are too tired and are already in their pyjamas.At 7, lesson over, Gerry McCann goes back to the apartment." Weird... Overigens stond er in The Times, ook geautoriseerd, over David Payne niks, sterker nog: "Gerry had knocked up at the start of the 4.30pm tennis-drills session, but had decided not to exacerbate an injury to his Achilles tendon, so had dropped out and waited around by the courts until the children came back from the kids’ clubs at 5pm for tea. That had been one of the most enjoyable times of the holiday, all the children together for tea, then the adults playing with them afterwards."

En in de CdM van vandaag: "The same report exposes other contradictions in the English’s depositions. Kate and Gerry say that they picked up their children from the crèche at 5.30 p.m., but while the former guarantees that they went for a half-hour run on the beach and only then returned to the apartment, her husband states that they went to play tennis during that period."

Maar voor mij is wel duidelijk: they have everything to hide, including Clarence Mitchell...

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En waarom moet een lijst van namen qua indentiteiten van Britse pedofielen in de Algarve geheim blijven???? Zou daar misschein Payne op staan en mogelijk nog meer 'bekenden' ? Paulo Rebelo komt er in dit artikel trouwens ook niet best vanaf... Gelezen op het 3arfuidoforum
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British don't want the disclosure of the identities of referenced for pedophilia, in the Algarve

The British police wishes to maintain confidential the names from a list of British citizens referenced for having pedophile practices, residing in the Algarve, that were identified during the Maddie’s case investigation. This list is part of the disappearing process of Madeleine Mccann whose archiving will be announced next Monday.

The maintenance of this list under confidentiality is one of the pretensions of the English police, under the argument that the divulgation of the identities of those individuals would be an intrusion in the domain of the private life.

Monday the General Attorney’s Office is going to release the final dispatch from the Public Ministry that decides on the archiving of Maddie’s case, for lack of evidence to sustain any accusation. With this dispatch, Kate and Gerry McCann (Madeleine’s parents), as well as the British citizen Robert Murat, will cease being arguidos.

The fact that the process may be archived, does not obviates that it may be re-open in the future. However, that would occur only if appear new elements of proof that invalidate the fundaments invoked by the Public Ministry, as it is established by the Penal Process Code, artº 279º.

The decision to archive may be appealed. Only when that timing is extinguished, will the process be open to the public.

[by] Amaral in book

Many details of the investigation may, however, become known before, through the reading of a book written by the inspector of Policia Judiciária (PJ) that leaded the investigation, Gonçalo Amaral, and that will be launched, next 24th in Lisbon.

At least, that is what the author promises, who ended up by being removed from the investigation, in the sequence of declarations considered offensive to the English police.

With the opening of the process, it will be possible to clear the doubts, to know what diligences were made, what was the level of the English police participation in the investigation and to know the real motives that took the police and Public Ministry to constitute Murat and the McCann couple, arguidos. It will be also possible to detect the incoherence’s and contradictions in the investigation, as well as the falsities that were divulged publicly.

There is also interrogations about the destiny of Paulo Rebelo, the coordinating inspector that replaced Gonçalo Amaral in Maddie’s case investigation, and on whom were put so many hopes of success.

Paulo Rebelo was installed in Portimão and surrounded himself with the best investigators of the PJ from all the areas. The effort was fruitless. Rebelo was unable to repair some errors committed on the initial phases of the investigation. He was also unable to advance for new leads.

With the conclusion of the case, Rebelo hopes that the PJ Directory decides quickly to substitute him in the direction of the department, in order to put him again, in Lisbon, in a place compatible with his curriculum.

by: Paula Torres de Carvalho (the journalist that also wrote " PJ admits hastiness in Madeleine McCann Case" - http://ultimahora.publico.clix.pt/noticia.aspx?id=1318465&idCanal=62
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De snuffelhonden... Joana Morais by astro
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English defended the use of the dogs - Correio da Manhã

TracesFinding the trail of a death changed the direction of the investigation



English defended the use of the dogs

An exhaustive report explains the possible scenarios to hide a body and defends the animals’ reliability

Mark Harrison, the English police who was designated to help the Polícia Judiciária in the search for Madeleine McCann, wrote a report last summer, in which he defended the usage of the dogs that are experts in the detection of cadaver odours and blood traces. The discovery of the residues and the signaling of the trail of a cadaver thus ended up formally changing the direction of an investigation that had been limited to the theory of abduction until then.

The report, which praises the Portuguese authorities’ work, suggested that the animals should be taken to all the locations where the body might have been hidden. From the apartment that had been rented by the McCanns up to the crèche, through the beach and the church area.



Mark Harrison explained that it was necessary to analyse the scenarios of Madeleine having been killed that night and her body abandoned by a person on foot or by car. The expert added that despite of the high costs of that search, it should be carried out in order to clarify the case.

Dogs are reliable

In the report, Mark Harrison says that it us very unlikely that the body was buried in the sand. The English policeman defends that a launch into the sea is the most likely scenario, while the body should also be searched for within an area of cliffs and dense bushes that lies east of Praia da Luz.

The two English dogs were presented as an indispensable help to the investigation, after their abilities and the manner in which they are trained were explained in detail, as well as the fact that they both react to blood traces and cadaver odours, without a single episode of “false positives” in the investigations.

In his report, Mark Harrison listed cases of success that offered a guarantee of reliability. And he asserted that if the dogs came to signal Maddie’s death, then it would be a fact.

Details

High costs - Mark Harrison stressed the high costs of the dogs. Their daily rate amounted to one thousand euros; the cost of the trip for them and their handlers was of 2750. There was also the cost of the passport for the animals (450 euros), adding to the lodging, the food and the transportation of the vehicles that were necessary for the animals.

False positives – Eddie, the dog that specialized in cadaver odour detection, has never given a false alert. He has participated in approximately 200 searches in homicide scenarios in Great Britain and never signaled any products that derived from meat or any other food item.

Human blood – Keela was trained exclusively with human blood; blood that is subject to strict testing and which comes from hospitals. She locates contaminated guns, smells vehicles and clothing items, and accurately detects residues, even if the locations are subject to cleaning.

Kate refused to answer the PJ

Kate refused to answer tens of questions from the Polícia Judiciária. After the first day of questioning, when she appeared in the company of her lawyer but was heard as a witness, Kate changed her stance. Being made an arguida and the fact that the authorities assumed that they admitted her involvement in the disappearance of her daughter Madeleine, led her to adopt a different attitude.

She refused to reply, for example, why she left the twins behind in the bedroom in order to call her husband and friends at the restaurant, after finding out that Maddie had disappeared.



She also failed to explain why she had not searched for her daughter in the first moments, sitting on the bed almost without moving, and she offered no explanation for the fact that the preliminary test results from the English lab detected traces in the car boot and behind the sofa, traces whose DNA resembled Maddie’s.

Other details from her personal and professional life remained unanswered. Kate refused, for example, to explain whether or not it was true that before the holidays she had admitted she had a bad premonition. Whether or not she had ever complained that the twins were very restless or had ever admitted to deliver the guard of Maddie to a relative.

Kate also remained expressionless when she was confronted with the possibility that she had quit working because she could not handle the pressure of raising he three small children.

She did not explain how the cadaver odour was found on her clothes and on the soft toy that was normally used by Maddie, or why the dogs marked the death inside the apartment.

Kate also chose not to clarify who had called Sky News, nor did she reveal whom she had called in the moments that immediately followed the disappearance.

In her deposition, Kate was also confronted with the fact that her refusal to make a statement might hinder the discovery of her daughter’s whereabouts. Nevertheless, she kept her silence.

Mother’s DNA on the window

The window had been forced open and the abductor had taken the child through it. That was the first possibility that was advanced by Kate to the authorities that collected residues on location. But the tests that were done at the IML [Portuguese forensics institute] ended up isolating just one DNA which did not belong to the child but rather to Kate. To the PJ, it is also practically impossible for anyone to carry the child out of that window, which does not even open completely.



Gerry accepted to speak to the police

On the day that he was made an arguido, Gerry accepted to answer all of the Judiciária’s questions.

Doubts about surveillance on the children

The PJ found contradictions in the friends’ testimonies concerning the manner in which the children were watched over.

Denied the use of sedatives on the children

Kate and Gerry have always denied to the PJ that they medicated the children or used any sedative to make them sleep. Maddie’s parents thus stated that their children went to bed early simply because they were used to that, and it was not even usual for them to wake in the middle of the night. CM knows that months after Maddie disappeared, Kate suggested to the Judiciária that the twins should be tested in order to find out whether they had been sedated that night. Something that the investigators found strange, given the fact that being doctors, they both knew that any residue would have disappeared by then. This was considered to be another indicator that Kate and Gerry were not telling the whole truth about what happened on the 3rd of May, hiding what had happened to the child.

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Recorded | PJ taped action – The dogs’ search was recorded by the Polícia Judiciária. The handler also wrote an extensive report that translated the signs that had been detected by the animals during their search for traces.

TIR | English address – Kate stated her identity and her residence and gave her English address. Therefore, the return home was not considered to be an escape from justice.

Return | Postponed promise – When they returned home, the McCanns promised to return if it was necessary to make a statement. The reconstitution was requested, but the friends boycotted it. source: Correio da Manhã 20.07.2008, paper edition
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Normaal gesproken hou ik niet zo van dat emotionele gepreek, maar deze post past wel in deze dagen...nu mogelijk de McCanns er vanaf komen, wegens gebrek aan bewijs, wegens het niet meewerken aan het onderzoek, met hulp van mensen die er kennelijk belang bij hebben...etc etc etc...Een poster op het 3atguidoforum mag voor mij wel even...
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Anyone Remember this Little Girl?

The Mccanns, Clarence Mitchell, Branson, Kennedy, Metodo 3, the Tapas 7, 8, or 9 should hang your heads in shame, you a the biggest bunch of spineless, arrogant, smug individuals that I have ever had to endure on the Tv and Media.

You have spent the last 14 months spewing your bile and contradictions to the entire world. Something happened on that night, the whole world knows that something happened, and not just that poor girls our disappearence.

Your are cool and calculated, you have shown and unbelievable lack of emotion. The silence of the Tapas Mooks is deafening, again, cool and calculating.

And today........... the news about Payne. I actually hope that this is not true, if it is, god help him. The story has overtaken what the ***k this case is all about, that little girl. But then the leak of Payne, I wonder, I just wonder where it came from.

My mother hit the nail on the head today. She said, in all her 74 years, in all the child abductions, she has seen on TV and in the Press, she said, ''the one thing that the parents do, is smell the clothes, the sheets, the toys of the missing girl or boy'' THEY DONT ****ING WASH THEM STRAIGHT AWAY. Now that is bizarre. Bizzare or Deliberate. Deliberate in my book.

They dont leave their children alone for 5 nights running, and then blame the British Public, because, 'everyone does it on Holiday' ..........its 'what you do'.............. You arrogant Bas*****. Dont try putting your Guilt that night, on the shoulders of the British or any other Nation.

Forget the DNA, forget the Police Files, forget your Holidays to Canada, forget Payne and his mates, what you have done over the last 14 months is try to offload your guilt that night, onto anyone that would listen. Anyone that would donate, put a poster up.

And finally to the little girl, who, through no fault of her own, has more than likely lost her life, due to your Neglect. Your Neglect, that regardless of the outcome on Monday, will stick with you and your cronies for the rest of your lives, you sad, sad apologies for something human.

Whether you like it or not, you are now the worlds biggest child neglectors. That is without question.

When you go to bed at night, just as you are dropping off to sleep, remember there is a child out there, that just wants to be cuddled and wrapped up warm...................and through no fault of her own, finds herself on the other side, lonely, sad and frustrated that her parents would rather fly to America, go to Canada, jogging, playing golf, walks in the park, than leave no stone unturned in the quest for her return, and all for the sake of the twins. Always for the sake of the twins.

Leaving no stone unturned. **** off. Liars the lot of you.

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  zondag 20 juli 2008 @ 13:47:32 #12
145755 kahaarin
You are my sunshine......
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Inderdaad Suko, het hele geval doet een beetje luguber aan zo langzamerhand, een thriller auteur had het rare gedrag van de betrokkenen niet beter kunnen verzinnen, helaas is dit geen fictie maar feit.

Dat hele circus, al die verdachtmakingen, sightings en plottwisten doen een beetje geregisseerd aan, nu is het afwachten of er boven water komt wie er aan de touwtjes trekt.

Maar er blijft in mijn achterhoofd rondspoken, dat heb ik geloof ik al bijna vanaf het begin gezegd, dat de Tapas9 meer lijken in de kast hebben zitten, niet letterlijk, maar alles wegstrepend kun je bijna niet anders concluderen dan dat die 9 meer weten, niets zeggen en zelfs de ouders van Maddy houden zich stil.....
Wat kan er in vredesnaam zo erg zijn dat je zelfs niet de waarheid spreekt bij de verdwijning van je kind?
Het rondje Anorak van vandaag sluit hier ook mooi bij aan:
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Our Madeleine McCann: Colin Stagg, Mad Dogs And Lucy Cavendish, And Amaral’s True Lies
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann



SUNDAY PEOPLE: “We’ll savage bungling cops on Oprah [Winfrey] show - CLEARED McCANNS VOW TV ONSLAUGHT”

Cleared?

“At noon tomorrow a judge will formally lift the cloud of suspicion.”

Is that a fact?

The couple are likely to focus their fury on top cop Goncalo Amaral, who was kicked off the Madeleine case last October following allegations of incompetence and attacks on his British police counterparts.

“I’LL NEVER HAVE MY LIFE BACK – MURAT” - ‘I don’t know if I will ever be able to shake off the stigma of being ‘that Maddie man‘.”

“People say there is no smoke without fire and there may always be some who still doubt me. I have to live with that for the rest of my life.”

Let’s play a game of word association: Colin Stagg.

He’s the one set up by those bungling UK cops. Colin Stagg was accused of murdering Rachel Nickell on Wimbledon Common. Colin Stagg is innocent.

There being no forensic evidence, they were forced to look for likely suspects, and in Colin Stagg they found a man who ideally suited the tabloid agenda. He was runtish and rat-like, and yet also into body-building. He lived on his own. He was given to wearing dodgy-looking singlets and he was a devotee of the ancient pagan religion called Wicca. He had a picture of the Cerne Abbas giant inscribed on a black-painted wall in his flat.

Someone said that they had seen him, or a man very like him, on the common on the morning of the murder - and that was enough.

SCOTLAND ON SUNDAY: “After 445 days of missing Maddie, cloud of suspicion over parents lifts”

Tomorrow Kate and Gerry McCann hope the suspicion that they played a role in her disappearance from a Portuguese beach resort will finally – and officially – be lifted.

Hope? But in The People it’s a fact?

The Portuguese authorities are believed to be ready to remove the official arguido – suspect – status from the couple and clear them of any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance from Praia de Luz in May last year.

Believed.

SUNDAY TELEGRAPH: “Madeleine McCann abduction leaves family holidays haunted by fear”

The exodus to the sun starts this weekend - but since the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, parents are feeling paranoid about the safety of their offspring. Foreigners think we are mad, reports Lucy Cavendish from Mallorca

Mad pervs and Englishmen…

Says Lucy Cavendish:

You can always spot the English abroad. Not by the way they dress or their sunburnt skin but by how protective they are of their children.

Always!

“I feel I can’t leave my children alone for a second,” says Joanne Brown as she sits in a café next to the beach at Port de Soller in Mallorca. “It’s a nightmare. I’ve always been conscious of where my children are on holiday, but now I feel much more aware of them. If I shut my eyes for a moment, I feel terrified that they won’t be there when I open them.

Abracadabra. Fish ‘n’ chips. Poof!

But ever since last May, when three-year-old Madeleine McCann disappeared from her bedroom in Praia da Luz, Portugal, there is an almost tangible parental fear that underlies family holidays: that someone will take our children and we will never see them again.

Matchsticks in the eyes. Don’t dare to look away.

Post-Maddie, holidaying abroad has become a minefield. The parameters have shifted. Where once parents might have left children in a play area/on the beach/in a café while they quickly whipped off to go to the loo/order a meal/get some drinks, now we dare not. We reappraise all the time, scan people’s faces on beaches, by the swimming pool, in the play area. We are constantly asking ourselves: who is safe? What is safe? Are kids’ clubs fine? Are the staff vetted properly?

Anorak advocates the CoZee Reins – modelled on the penal system of Alabama, these handy chains with optional heavy ball attachment ensure the kidz are kept within shouting distance.

Tell Armani to “come ‘ere or I‘m, gonna kill yer”, and see her find no way of escape”.

On holiday with the Lucy Cavendishes:

One night, my 11-year-old son asked if he and his brothers, aged five and three, could sleep in this separate room. “Of course!” I replied.

Later on, when they were asleep, I got myself into a terrible panic. My eldest son had said he didn’t want to lock the door in case any of them needed to go to the loo in the night. This seemed to make sense.

At 2am, I woke up in a hot sweat. I imagined nameless, faceless marauders creeping up from the beach, slipping into the place and making off with one of them.

I woke my husband up. “The boys are ALONE!” I screamed. “It’s not going to happen here,” he said, immediately knowing what I was referring to. “This is Devon.”

But, as every parent now knows, it doesn’t matter if it’s Devon or Praia da Luz. Everyone is afraid of the stranger, the person out there who, in our minds, wants to steal and harm our children.

Was that her husband screaming?

THE GUARDIAN: “Madeleine police chief to launch ‘explosive’ book”

Gonçalo Amaral, who was chief of the criminal investigation police for the Algarve region, has scheduled a news conference in Lisbon on Thursday to launch the book, just three days after the widely expected announcement tomorrow that the case is being shelved by prosecutors for lack of evidence.

In the book, provisionally entitled True Lies, Amaral is also likely to reopen his assault on the role of the British police in the investigation. He has publicly suggested that they were influenced throughout by the leads which Madeleine’s parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, wanted pursued.

He is said to be convinced that Madeleine is dead, while the McCanns have continued to press investigators to follow the trail of potential kidnappers and ensure their daughter’s safe return.

THE SUNDAY TIMES: “Murder most modern- Kate Summerscale’s prize-winning account of an 1860 killing shows how little we’ve changed”

Ed Caesar looks at the 1860 murder of Saville Kent in The Suspicions of Mr Whicher.
What is most striking about her account (and this, perhaps, is what won the judges’ favour) is that it echoes contemporary culture. The huge interest in, and continual theorising about, the disappearance of an infant; the castigation of detectives for their incompetence; the swings of compassion towards or against suspects — all mirror the case of our own missing child, Madeleine McCann.

Our Maddie.

SUNDAY HERALD: “Courts make editors think hard before delving into private lives - Judiciary increasingly taking the view that public interest must be stronger than potential harm”

Although Madeleine McCann “aguido” Robert Murat’s £600,000 payout last week from 11 newspapers after successfully suing for the separate offence of defamation, editors are being forcefully reminded to think longer and harder about what stories papers can and should run.

Indeed. A current story in Correio da Manha has not repeated in the UK press about the case.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/186005.html

Ik heb de commentaren van de journalist schuingezet, het leest nu wat makkelijker, vooral die link tussen Murat en Stagg vind ik interessant, het maakt blijkbaar niet zoveel uit of ze de echte dader hebben, een zwart schaap in de kudde die ze kunnen beschuldigen is genoeg, de dader is geidentificeerd en het leven kan gewoon doorgaan.
Ik heb het idee dat dit tov Murat is mislukt en dat die paranoia van nu komt omdat er geen 'dader' is gevonden en men dit dus gevoelsmatig niet heeft kunnen afsluiten. (Just my 2 cents. )
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Tja Kahaarin, het is eigenlijk idd vanaf het begin klontje klaar dat niemand echt wat wilde zeggen (Russel zei vorig jaar aan de deur tegen een Sun-reporter dat Gerry McCann de woordvoerder is en gooide daarop de deur dicht) en niemand echt wil meewerken ondanks dat iedereen dag in dag uit via de media liet weten graag de PJ ten dienste wil zijn. Robert Murat kende iedereen wel en was daarom een makkelijk slachtoffer, who cares...Dát is ook voornamelijk wat het publiek stoort, die houding van iedereen, niet Madeleine op nummer één zetten, en dat heeft niets te maken met de secrecy. Waarom mocht Jane Tanner dan uitgebreid vertellen hoe die avond volgens haar is verlopen inclusief dat Bundleman+verhaal, in die BBC-docu in november? Die zus en andere familieleden die later een woordenbrij van kritiek hadden, met details, over de eerste dagen na de vermissing terwijl ze eerst nog zo lovend waren? Die kliek-McCann heeft op een schandalige manier misbruik gemaakt van de secrecy omdat de Portugesen niets tegen die smear en slur konden doen. Bovendien is men vergeten dat in september die secrecy-wetten werden versoepeld, maar met elk beetje pijnlijke vraag sloten de anders zo kwebbelende bekjes, dat ze niks mochten zeggen, liars! Nu blijkt wel hoeveel de PJ heeft gedaan en wat er allemaal aan tegenwerking is geweest en ook wát er allemaal niet is meegenomen in de eindfase, zo blijkt uit dit artikel op de site van Joana Morais, zie ook het 3arguidoforum
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Evidence of death convinces the PJ but fails in court - Diário de Notícias

Tests. On the day before the likely announcement by the Attorney General of the archiving of the Maddie case, DN knows from sources that are close to the process that the analyses from hair that was found in the McCanns’ car revealed that 16 out of 18 markers match the child’s genetic information

Judge mistrusts evidence used in an isolated manner

Tests that were performed on hair that was collected from the boot of the car that was rented by the McCanns in the Algarve have determined that 16 out of 18 markers match Madeleine’s genetic information. The information, which was released to DN by a source from the PJ, joins the results in the preliminary report from the Birmingham lab, in England, where it is verified that “15 out of the 19 genetic markers that were found in a residue that was collected from the couple’s car boot are a match” with the child.

“The evidence is unequivocal for the investigators”, the PJ source guarantees. “We are talking about a tuft of hair that was found in the spare tire well, in the car boot, which could not have fallen from the siblings’ clothes or have ended up on that spot by other means. The issue is that in order to make a solid proof in court, one has to reach 18 markers. But with 16, the investigators have no doubts left”, the policeman recognizes.

But for a judge that was contacted by DN, there is no reason for such certainties. “It depends on which markers are missing and if I had to decide only with a basis on that element of proof, I would not take a case to court, because the chances for success would be very small. This type of evidence always has to be articulated with other elements.”

Another source that is well positioned near the process, and with forensics knowledge, sustains the PJ agent’s version by defending that “these tests are like the collection of fingerprints, where a piece of evidence in court needs to detect 13 points, but from 11 onwards the police is already certain”.

For DN’s source, the conclusions from the tests that were performed on the hair that was found inside the Renault Scénic that was used by the McCanns were not included in the PJ’s final report merely because “if the evidence was not going to be used in court, the police did not want the Public Ministry to say that there is a persecution of the child’s parents”.

Although he mistrusts this isolated type of evidence, the judge that was heard by DN argues that there is matter to take the parents of Maddie McCann to court. “They could be judged over the crime of endangering a minor, because leaving their daughter alone inside a hotel room while they go to dinner is not acceptable within the social patterns, and over obstruction of justice. It is better to remember that the child’s parents called the televisions before they called the police.”
Source: Diário de Notícias, 20.07.2008
Maar goed, uit alles blijkft wel dat men het op neglect gooit en dat valt dus lasig te bewijzen gezien de tegenwerking van betrokkenen en IMO de Leicester Police én hun bazen. Vermoedens bestaan dat niet alle documenten (bv de volledige eerste DNA-results) in het bezit zijn van de PJ, of op z'n minst iets 'gewijzigd,' Het stinkt aan alle kanten.

Overigens meldt iemand op het 3arguidoforum: "Generally, English law only extends as far as the borders of the country, but in the case of murder or manslaughter a British subject may be charged and tried here irrespective of where the offence is committed." Afijn, zal mij benieuwen morgen, wát dit gaat betekenen: 'A solution'....

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Op zondag 20 juli 2008 13:47 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
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Ik heb de commentaren van de journalist schuingezet, het leest nu wat makkelijker, vooral die link tussen Murat en Stagg vind ik interessant, het maakt blijkbaar niet zoveel uit of ze de echte dader hebben, een zwart schaap in de kudde die ze kunnen beschuldigen is genoeg, de dader is geidentificeerd en het leven kan gewoon doorgaan.
Ik heb het idee dat dit tov Murat is mislukt en dat die paranoia van nu komt omdat er geen 'dader' is gevonden en men dit dus gevoelsmatig niet heeft kunnen afsluiten. (Just my 2 cents. )
Nee idd, nu Murat is gecleared, het zal iedereen blijvend achtervolgen, maakt niet uit wat morgen die Solution inhoudt. Doet me er weer aan denken hoe een ouder van een vermist kind (en de wereld laat geloven dat Madeleine in handen is van één of meerdere pedo's) dit uit de bek krijgt, Kate McCann in een interview met Woman's Own magazine: "I bet she's giving whoever she's with her tuppence worth." The Mirror 13 aug 2007. Ongelofelijk...

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En daar is Spudgun weer eens online en hóe, de maker van dit inmiddels overbekende filmpje wat nog steeds actueel is, scherp en IMO precies vertellend wát er vooral mis is met de verslaggeving in de UK en de smerige campagne tegen Portugal, eerder ook in dit verhaal van hem "A Story For Christmas..." Het is wederom een hele zit maar in IMO zeer waard, in afwaching wat er morgen en daarna in de pers zal verschijnen, indien de uitslag niet datgene is wat recht doet aan deze onverkwikkelijke kwestie:
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Dear Mr. Editor………

I’m quite sure that you are very busy, organising your hacks and other staff, clearing away space on the front pages of your newspapers to make way for tomorrows joyous headlines, not to mention the inevitable ‘’pull out and keep’’ 10 page insert guide, explaining the tragic chain of events that have had to be endured by Saint Gerry & Kate of Rothwell.

“Bungling/Boozy/Inept/ Sardine Munching Porto Plods finally admit defeat!!”, “The agony goes on for our Kate & Gerry” and “Vindicated at last!!”,

Just some, I am CERTAIN, of the headlines that we will all be reading about in the next couple of days. Readers will then be subjected to innumerable column inches over the coming weeks, with poignant articles from Richard Madely, Amanda Pearson, Carol Malone et al, explaining how they had all ‘been there’ for our illustrious golden couple, supporting them in their hour of need, joining forces to combat and admonish those ‘vile evil whisperings’ that were emanating along the corridors of certain internet forums and blogs.

No doubt, celebs’ agents are already in negotiation with tabloid editors, all lining up to prepare their clients to express their solidarity by way of ‘exclusive interviews’; “as a parent myself, I can’t imagine what hell they have had to go through………by the way, my new book, which is out this Monday……………………….”

Who knows?. Almost certainly an OBE or two will be in the pipeline, especially if the McCanns are allowed to take credit for the European ‘AMBER ALERT’.

Clarence Mitchell will almost certainly be given greater impetus, either directly or otherwise, to organise the Government’s Media Monitoring Unit, to clamp down and to CLOSE down those websites and bloggers that influence sufficient numbers of people to be potentially detrimental to New Labours diktats, (as he did the MIRROR Forum).

Tony ‘Glenda’ Parsons, will undoubtedly have accrued sufficient soundbites to keep his Mirror column going for the next 2 years.

But, Mr. Editor, just before you fall asleep at night in your bed, having finished the proof reading to your simpering, sycophantic, subservient homage to Clarence Mitchell’s release, please give a little thought to the following:-

Irrespective of what the Portuguese announce on Monday, the 20th July, there are a number of serious issues and questions which, FAR from being answered, have actually never been ASKED.

It may very well please you and whoever is dictating your editorial policy to perpetually vilify and BLAME the Portuguese authorities, their police or even their subjects for every aspect of the Madeleine McCann tragedy, but that would not explain, in any way, the following:--

The suspicions surrounding the McCanns and their possible involvement in the disappearance of their daughter arose, NOT because the Policia Judiciaria were inept and clueless, but because the McCanns made inaccurate statements, from the outset. Inaccurate statements about their movements, the movements of their friends, inaccurate statements about the state and condition of how they found the apartment and the shutters, inaccurate statements about what they discovered and discussed.

We know that they made inaccurate statements because what they said directly contravened and countered what the other stated, as well as what some of their friends stated. And they can’t ALL have been correct. Inaccurate statements, Lies or omissions?

Likewise, it wasn’t the ‘bungling Porto plod’ who strongly suspected or suggested that Madeleine may have died in the apartment.

It was a couple of British dogs. Specialist canines, who have a LONG and proven history and success rate in determining and locating the precise areas of residual tissue and and materials relating to cadavers. Specialist dogs who are currently proving to be both CRUCIAL and instrumental in unraveling the ongoing horrors being unearthed at Haut de la Garenne in Jersey.

Not, I am sure, that you will give much credence or space to their findings in Portugal, but HOW would you propose to explain away their behaviour in Praia da Luz, in the apartment, on Kate McCanns clothes and belongings? Having a bad day? Inconclusive? The fact that it is not wholly admissible in a Court of Law?

And what about that car boot sample? The Birmingham FSS, the acknowledged, finest Forensic science laboratory in the world? Martin Brunt is STILL on the Sky News website video, reporting a “100% DNA Match to Madeleine McCann”. Was he misinformed? Contaminated sample? Mistaken Process? Total fabrication? We may never know, especially given that the British authorities are fighting to ensure that particular aspect of this case remains secret. (Have you ever asked yourself why?, Mr. Editor, or are you simply not permitted to question Mr. Mitchells rhetoric?)

Are you also, Mr.Editor, going to lambast those bungling, inept, incapable LEICESTERSHIRE police, who were also widely reported as concurring, and in some cases even SUGGESTING, that Madeleine died in the apartment on that first night in May?

“ Licentious, lacklustre, Leicester Police loonies!” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it, does it Mr.Editor?

Friends in high places? Curious RICH associates and backers, underhand Government assistance? Prime Ministerial blessings, chats and advice?. Papal divine intervention, European and world leaders hob-nobs?. It’s all there Mr. Editor. Enough material to sell a billion Sunday journals. So why no interest?

You see, Mr. Editor; I don’t really know what happened in Praia da Luz in May of last year. I don’t know why, how or when. I wasn’t there. Neither were you. We can only listen to those that are either close to, or aligned to, the proceeding in question.

It boils down to who and what you want to believe. I am reminded of Herman Goering. He once stated, “it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy” How right he was.

I realised just how right he was when George Bush convinced the majority of his people that Saddam Hussein had a hand in 9/11, just before he embarked on the massacre of an estimated 600,000 Iraqi men, women and children, just so that Halliburtons could procure the rich oil fields; (FAT lot of good THAT did with the current oil price, but I digress.)

What I particularly hate about that atrocity, is that the British went ahead and held his hand while he did it. Only at least Blair gave the British people SOME credit. He knew we wouldn’t buy the 9/11 angle, so he made up the WMD’s story, inventing documents, dossiers and ‘intelligence’ as he went along.

“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy”

Charles de Mendez? We would know for sure, exactly what happened to him, poor chap, were we to examine the countless surveillance video of the event. Except, for some reason, we can’t. Because the tape is apparently damaged or lost, or the cameras malfunctioned or were facing the wrong way or were broken or vandalised. Or all of the above.

And of course, when Neil Mackay sensationally reported in 2003 that “senior members” of the Labour Government were being investigated for “pedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography”, as part of the infamous ’Operation Ore’, Tony Blair very quickly and effectively served a DA NOTICE on the press and media, banning details of these matters being reported. A ban that still stands today. A sublime example of how a Government and its press can lie, mislead and fool its people.

“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy”
So, you see, Mr. Editor. You will have to forgive me if I choose not to believe a single word that your paper publishes on the Madeleine Mccann case.

You will have to excuse me if I do not join in the rejoicing and celebrations when the illustrious couple are exonerated , nor contribute to their inevitable NEW fund to help them “find their daughter”.

Because, although it may be ultimately true that there is insufficient evidence to prove the culpability of the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter, there is most definitely AMPLE and OVERWHELMING evidence that the authorities of this country do not wish for the truth to ever come out.

BUT; if there IS a god, and the leaders who presided over this debacle and cover up ever have to stand and atone before him, then rest assured that their minions:- the paltry, gutless, servile cowards who spread their lies and diktats in their respective newspapers, will have to atone also.

That’s YOU, Mr. Editor.

Perhaps you’d care to dwell on that point before you fall asleep tonight.

That, and the image of a precious, angelic and innocent little girl for whom, with your able assistance, Justice was denied

Godbless, Madeleine. Wherever you may be.
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  zondag 20 juli 2008 @ 23:01:59 #16
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En daar is Spudgun weer eens online en hóe, de maker van dit inmiddels overbekende filmpje wat nog steeds actueel is, scherp en IMO precies vertellend wát er vooral mis is met de verslaggeving in de UK en de smerige campagne tegen Portugal, eerder ook in dit verhaal van hem "A Story For Christmas..." Het is wederom een hele zit maar in IMO zeer waard, in afwaching wat er morgen en daarna in de pers zal verschijnen, indien de uitslag niet datgene is wat recht doet aan deze onverkwikkelijke kwestie:
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Here here... afbeelding

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That’s YOU, Mr. Editor.

Perhaps you’d care to dwell on that point before you fall asleep tonight.

That, and the image of a precious, angelic and innocent little girl for whom, with your able assistance, Justice was denied

Godbless, Madeleine. Wherever you may be.
Zo dan, amen, wat er ook gezegd en geschreven gaat worden dit staat voor mij als een paal boven water, dit hadden wij ook al opgemerkt maar bij gebrek aan talent om het zo neer te zetten vind ik dit het aanhalen meer dan waard.

Moge Maddy uiteindelijk de rust krijgen die ze verdient.
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Mogguh all. PGR statement released this afternoon
The Portuguese Public Prosecutor's Office (“Procuradoria Geral da República”) will release an official statement about the Madeleine McCann case today, at 4:00 pm. Bron

Paulo Reis schrijft verder op het 3arguidoforum: "As far as I know, there will be no Press Conference from the PGR, just a formal statement, usually posted at the site and sent by email to all Media. But most probable is news coming out earlier than that, because lawyers should be informed before the decision is made public. So, what I think may happen is that details about it can come out before 4:00 pm, as soon as one of the lawyers receives the information..."

En: "Statements from PGR are always short - just the most important points. The official document with the decision ("despacho") and the legal details in which the Prosecutors based that decision, can be a document with a good number of pages. So, I don't expect a quick reaction, because lawyers will need some time to analyse it."

En in dit topic, TODAYS OFFICIAL STATEMENT: "The Portuguese Public Prosecutor's Office will release an official statement about the Madeleine McCann case today, at 4:00 pm. For those who can understand a little bit of Portuguese or want to “google” a quick translation, this is the link where the statement will be posted, in the official web site of “Procuradoria-Geral da República” (Public Prosecutor's Office)"

Case Closed, shelved, archived, secrecy lifted, no proof she is dead, no proof she is abducted by a stranger, not enough DNA-evidence, never mind the dogs... etc etc etc... dat zijn zo ongeweer de topics hier en daar, afwachten lijkt me het beste...Team McCann is vast al op de hoogte...

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Ondertussen... Gelezen op het 3arguidogorum, vertaling Astro
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RogatoriesJudge didn’t validate the diary immediately

PJ wanted to hear the McCanns again

Today, the process is most likely to be archived. Ten months ago, the PJ asked for the reconstitution of the crime and a new questioning of the couple

Pinto Monteiro promised a solution for the Maddie case for today. The archiving of the process is most likely to be announced on the General Attorney’s Office’s website, after more than a year of an investigation that was made of breakthroughs and retreats.

The Judiciária lost some battles and diligences that were not carried out may have compromised the discovery of the truth. That is the understanding of Gonçalo Amaral, who launches the book ‘The Truth about the Lie’ next week, in which he promises to explain the reason why he believed in the child’s death and in the involvement of the parents in concealing the cadaver.

CM knows that Gonçalo Amaral was not alone in this fight. Only days after Kate and Gerry were questioned and after they returned to England, the PJ inspector who was in charge of the process defended that he wanted to hear the couple again and that they should be subject to a more serious coercion measure. He also requested the reconstitution of the facts.

In a dispatch that is dated September 19, Magalhães Menezes, a prosecutor of the Republic, manifested himself against it. He said it was an unnecessary diligence, because Kate had refused to answer and Gerry had clarified little or nothing.

Concerning the change in the coercion measures, he said there was no legal basis for any modification. The couple had given their English address when they were made arguidos, and remained available to be contacted at that residence.

Later on, when the PJ made the requests again, the magistrate ended up admitting to the new questioning. But he postponed the decision for a later moment in time, because he understood that hearing the friends and the numerous persons that the PJ had requested might raise new questions.

It should also be noted that the judge kept some reservations about the requests that were made by the Judiciária’s investigators. Concerning Kate’s diary, for example, the judicial magistrate argued that only later would it be possible to know whether it could be validated, because it revealed facts from Maddie’s mother’s private life.

Judge Pedro Frias refused the Public Ministry to access the text messages that were sent and received by Gerry McCann, alleging that the messages were telephone interceptions and that judicial authorizations could not be given after the occurrence.

Mysteries of the process

Investigating the friends – A strong suspicion, prompted by three testimonies, fell over one of the McCann couple’s friends. But that doctor returned to his country after the disappearance and he did not explain many of the questions for which the PJ had no answers. The Judiciária failed to understand his life story.

Reconstitution – Right after the interrogation of Kate and Gerry, the PJ requested the reconstitution of the facts. The English were asked to return to Portugal for the diligence to be carried out. Kate and Gerry ended up accepting, but the friends denied it. The Polícia Judiciária did not carry out the reconstitution and the archiving of the case, waiting for better evidence, renders the diligence useless.

Irishman not heard – An Irish citizen who stated he saw Gerry carrying a child on the evening of the 3rd of May should have been questioned again through a rogatory letter. But that was not fulfilled, and his deposition ended up not being obtained. What was known was that the witness made himself immediately available for a deposition.

Text message register – The PJ wanted to access the contents of the text messages that were sent and received by Gerry during the hours immediately before and after his daughter’s disappearance. The Public Ministry validated the request, but the judge did not defer the pretention, considering that it would be equal to listening operations. And that at that point in time, there was no judicial permission for them to be carried out.

Clinical records – The Public Ministry decided that the PJ should not access the clinical records of Madeleine and the twins Sean and Amélie. The prosecutor sustained that such would violate the privacy of the children and their parents, and the evidence might be considered null. For the magistrate, the request was not duly sustained, either.

To find out whether Dave saw Madeleine in the apartment

The last time that Maddie was seen by someone outside the group was at around 5.30 p.m. on the 3rd of May. After that, only David Payne asserts to have seen Maddie in the apartment, when he went there to exchange a few words with Kate. The PJ mistrusts that thesis and ends up having doubts about the time span of the disappearance. There are also contradictions about the time that Dave spent inside the apartment. Kate says they only exchanged two or three words, but Gerry guarantees that his friend stayed inside the house where his children were, for half an hour. The fact that three witnesses launch suspicions about Dave made it fundamental to clarify this situation.

Brother-in-law washed the car due to fish smell

Gerry’s brother-in-law was also heard in a rogatory letter. He was the usual driver of the Renault Scénic and he explained to the police that he had washed the car boot because one day he had perceived that fish blood had spilled from the bag that he had just acquired at the supermarket. Alexander also added, in April this year, when he was questioned by the investigators, that one day he had noticed a strange smell in the car. But he guaranteed that was due to the fact that they usually transported waste in the car boot. He also said that the twins’ nappies were usually placed there, and that was the reason for the intense smells.

Trip to London without results

It was the last great hope for the investigation. Already in the possession of the final documents from the English lab, which launched strong doubts and rendered the results from the residues that were found inside the car that was rented by the McCanns 22 days after Maddie disappeared inconclusive, the Polícia Judiciária from Portimão made themselves available to watch the questioning of the McCanns’ friends. Paulo Rebelo, who had substituted Gonçalo Amaral, and two other investigators went to Leicester, but returned empty-handed.

It was in April this year and the hearings were held at the English police’s headquarters, a few kilometers from the couple’s house. But the witnesses added little or nothing and in many moments pointed towards what they had already told the Portuguese authorities after the disappearance. The PJ’s final report, which is most likely to prompt the dispatch for archiving by the Public Ministry today, reinforces just that and it is ultimately accepted that the investigation has reached a dead end.

Many situations remain unclear, namely how it was possible for Jane Tanner to have seen a man carrying a child while Gerry, who was standing two or three metres away, saw nothing; and how an abductor could have carried a child horizontally, through a small window that only half opened.

Notes

Teachers | Heard – The PJ heard Madeleine’s teachers through a rogatory letter. They guaranteed that Madeleine was happy with the McCann couple and that there had never been any incident.

Mitchell | Guaranteed innocence – Clarence Mitchell, the couple’s spokesman, was questioned on the 28th of April. He guaranteed that he had accepted to work with the McCanns because he had believed in their innocence. source: Correio da Manhã, 21.07.2008, paper edition
Wederom, dit vergt ook weer ernstig leeswerk...

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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 13:17:12 #19
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 11:23 schreef Suko het volgende:
Mogguh all. PGR statement released this afternoon
The Portuguese Public Prosecutor's Office (“Procuradoria Geral da República”) will release an official statement about the Madeleine McCann case today, at 4:00 pm. Bron

Case Closed, shelved, archived, secrecy lifted, no proof she is dead, no proof she is abducted by a stranger, not enough DNA-evidence, never mind the dogs... etc etc etc...[ afbeelding ] dat zijn zo ongeweer de topics hier en daar, afwachten lijkt me het beste...Team McCann is vast al op de hoogte...[ afbeelding ]

Goedemorgen Suko en de rest!

Wachten duurt lang......

Waarschijnlijk heb je gelijk wbt team McCann, het wachten is op de eerste Clarrie spin in de Britse media en op de Portugese kranten....
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LISBON, Portugal: Portugal's attorney-general is due to announce Monday whether he plans to bring charges in the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann.

Attorney-General Fernando Pinto Monteiro could also order the investigation to be put on hold until new evidence emerges or ask police to pursue other lines of inquiry into the girl's May 2007 disappearance.

Prosecutors have been reviewing the final police report into what happened to the girl who went missing during a family vacation in Portugal's southern Algarve region a few days before her fourth birthday.

Detectives have named the girl's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, and local man Robert Murat as formal suspects in the case. All have denied involvement in her disappearance. If the investigation is halted, suspects are automatically cleared.

Pinto Monteiro said last week he intended to issue a statement giving his decision but declined to provide any details.
http://www.iht.com/articl(...)gal-Missing-Girl.php
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 13:17 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Goedemorgen Suko en de rest!

Wachten duurt lang......

Waarschijnlijk heb je gelijk wbt team McCann, het wachten is op de eerste Clarrie spin in de Britse media en op de Portugese kranten....
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http://www.iht.com/articl(...)gal-Missing-Girl.php
Hajo Kahaarin. Nou, als je de Portugese artikelen bij elkaar zet, en ook die van zojuist dan snap ik wel waarom er geen zaak komt. Zoveel tegenwerking, zoveel protectie van privacy, zoveel van alles en nog wat, mocht men dus van een misdaad verdacht worden, bv in Portugal, en je hebt wat vriendjes die wat te zeggen hebben.... don't worry, alles wordt weggepoetst, kwijtgemaakt, veranderingetjes hier en daar, en niks aan de hand...helemaal niks. En oja, die snuffelhonden hebben vissenbloed en nappies geroken in die Renault Scénic....schiet mij maar lek.

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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 14:45:27 #21
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Hajo Kahaarin. Nou, als je de Portugese artikelen bij elkaar zet, en ook die van zojuist dan snap ik wel waarom er geen zaak komt. Zoveel tegenwerking, zoveel protectie van privacy, zoveel van alles en nog wat, mocht men dus van een misdaad verdacht worden, bv in Portugal, en je hebt wat vriendjes die wat te zeggen hebben.... don't worry, alles wordt weggepoetst, kwijtgemaakt, veranderingetjes hier en daar, en niks aan de hand...helemaal niks. En oja, die snuffelhonden hebben vissenbloed en nappies geroken in die Renault Scénic....schiet mij maar lek.
Inderdaad zeg, ik dacht dat je in eerdere posts over die snifferdogs had staan dat vergissen heel weinig voorkwam? Natuurlijk net nu.....
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Inderdaad zeg, ik dacht dat je in eerdere posts over die snifferdogs had staan dat vergissen heel weinig voorkwam? Natuurlijk net nu.....
Your're kidding, right?! Maar zoals te verwachten, de BBC:
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Madeleine police inquiry shelved

The investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann has been shelved. Portugal's attorney general Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro has told police to halt their inquiry. He also confirmed that suspect status has been lifted from the child's parents and a third British national, Robert Murat.

Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared from her holiday apartment in Portugal on 3 May 2007, aged three.

'Most important'

Portuguese media had previously reported that the 14-month long investigation would be closed because of a lack of evidence. Detectives submitted their final report at the start of July to prosecutors.

Kate and Gerry McCann, Madeleine's parents, have said they want their own private investigators to see detectives' files so they can keep looking for their daughter. Mr and Mrs McCann's spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the couple would not comment in advance of the attorney general's official statement. He added: "Obviously they are aware of numerous reports suggesting that the case is about to be shelved.

"If that is the case they hope that it is made very clear that their arguido status is revoked and they hope to gain access to the police files so that their private investigators can continue the search for Madeleine. "At the end of the day that is the most important thing - finding their daughter and keeping the search going."

Last week Mr Murat received a £600,000 settlement and apology after a libel claim over allegations in 11 UK newspapers. In March Mr and Mrs McCann reached a libel settlement and got an apology from Express Newspapers for suggesting they were responsible for her death.

The McCanns and Mr Murat both strongly denied any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.

'Good job'

In an interview with the BBC, Goncalo Amaral - the former police chief leading the Madeleine inquiry - said he believed she was dead. "The evidence that we had gathered by the time that I left the case pointed to the girl being dead - and having died inside the apartment," he said.

"I don't know what happened next, I can't say. We'll have to wait for the case files to be made public." Mr Amaral was removed from the case last October after reportedly criticising the British police. He is now publishing a book about the investigation and denied that Portuguese police had failed to carry it out properly.

"Let's wait, and people will see that the Portuguese police and the British police did a good job - because various British agencies were involved. "We tried and we worked hard, so we can't be accused of incompetence or failure."

Mr Amaral also insisted that despite them being made formal suspects, there was "no persecution" of the McCanns. "The police don't want to persecute anyone - just to investigate what happened in a given case," he said.
Ondertussen is het 3arguidoforum zowat niet meer te bereiken... vet in de stress daar.

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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 18:25:33 #23
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De eerste echte diepte stukken komen nu ook boven water. The Dayly Mail:
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Kate and Gerry McCann formally cleared as Portuguese Attorney General shelves Madeleine investigation
By Vanessa Allen and Nicola Boden
Last updated at 5:01 PM on 21st July 2008


Case shelved: Portugal's Attorney General says the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance has been halted

Kate and Gerry McCann have been formally cleared by Portuguese authorities investigating the disappearance of their daughter after 14 months as suspects.

Portugal's Attorney General announced the police investigation had found no evidence of a crime committed by the couple or by the first man to be named a suspect in the case, British ex-pat Robert Murat.

All three have alway strenuously denied any involvement in the three-year-old girl's disappearance in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz last year.

Attorney General Fernando Pinto Monteiro said the case had now been shelved, although it could be reopened if any new evidence about the three-year-old girl's disappearance emerges.

His statement said: 'In an order issued today ... the investigation into the disappearance of the minor Madeleine McCann has been halted because no evidence was discovered of any crime committed by the suspects.'

It added that the investigation could be re-opened 'if new evidence emerges from any serious, pertinent and authoritative' source.

The McCanns are now expected to ask for access to the police files to help their personal hunt for Madeleine, who vanished from their holiday apartment while they were eating dinner with friends nearby.

The pair, both doctors from Rothley, Leicestershire, are due to speak out about the decision to lift their 'arguido' status and the move to close the case this evening.

Their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the couple had been informed of the statement and were liaising with their lawyers in Britain and Portugal.

'They are a wronged couple. For the past nine to 10 months they have had this agony as well as the pain of losing their daughter,' he said from Rothley.


Cleared: The investigation found no evidence of a crime committed by Kate McCann, pictured above today, or her husband Gerry

He continued: 'There is a degree of relief but no air of celebration whatsoever. They should never have been arguidos. The fact that they have emerged from this without being charged proves that.

'I know they will welcome this news but the whole thing has been a distraction since September.

'The main thing now is to get everything back to finding Madeleine. All of this has damaged their good reputations and they will have to assess where they go from here.

'The only thing they care about is finding Madeleine. We hope that the Portuguese authorities will continue to cooperate with their private investigation.'


End of a nightmare: The McCanns are due to speak out about being cleared and the decision to shelve the investigation this evening

Child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas says the couple should have had their suspect status lifted far earlier but attacked the decision to shelve the case.

'The arguido status should absolutely be lifted. I don't believe they should be kept as suspects any longer - there is no evidence to support it and this should have happened a long time ago,' he said.

'But we have lost sight of the most important thing here, and that is Madeleine. I don't believe 14 months into an investigation you can put it on the shelf. I think this is appalling.

'Would this happen in the UK? No. I think it is unacceptable to shut a case 14 months down the line.'

The disgraced former head of the investigation, Goncalo Amaral, had earlier insisted the decision to make the couple suspects was not police 'persecution'.


Goncalo Amaral insists naming the McCanns as suspects was not persecution by Portuguese police
Mr Amaral claimed the decision last September was not taken by police alone and stressed it was done based on the 'leads' his team had at the time.

But on Thursday, he is due to deliver another heartbreaking blow to the McCanns with a new book promising 'explosive revelations' about the inquiry.

Mr Amaral, 48, was responsible for authorising the decision to make the couple official suspects last September.

He was widely criticised for ignoring potential leads because of his focus on the MrCanns and his rigid belief that Madeleine died in their holiday apartment.

But today, he stressed he still believed that is where she died as he revealed his frustration that he was not able to solve the case.

'The evidence that we had gathered by the time that I left the case, pointed to the girl being dead - and having died inside the apartment,' he told the BBC.

'I don't know what happened next. I can't say. We'll have to wait for the case files to be made public.'

The move last September to make both parents suspects was taken by various officials, not 'purely and simply by police', he said.

'There were others involved - public prosecutors and the national directorate of the Portuguese police.

'They all knew there was a necessity to put everything on the table, in light of the advances we had made... the combination of leads we had.

'There was no persecution. The police don't want to persecute anyone, just to investigate what happened in a given case.'


No crime: Ex-pat Robert Murat, the first official suspect, has also been cleared

The former detective today denied he was trying to profit from the three-year-old's disappearance with his book and said it was an attempt to find the truth.

'People can say what they like. All I would say, is that I'm trying to contribute to the discovery of the truth.

'I worked 27 years as a police officer - and my conscience can't accept that this is the first case that slipped through my fingers. I worked hard with colleagues, and it's still unresolved.'

The memoir reportedly contains allegations that Madeleine died accidentally in her parents' care, and that they disposed of her body to cover up the death.

The McCanns, both 40, vehemently deny the claims. Friends say the couple's legal team will study the book and had not ruled out bringing libel proceedings against him.

Mr Amaral was rumoured to be responsible for many of the lurid smears and bizarre leaks from inside the police inquiry.

They stopped abruptly when he was removed from the case last October, a month after the McCanns were made 'arguidos'.
http://www.mailonsunday.c(...)e-investigation.html

1 en al Clarrie spin natuurlijk, de zaak zou in GB nooit geshelved zijn en de McCanns zijn een wronged couple, na het vertrek van Amaral zijn er geen smears meer geweest en Madeleine zelf wordt wel 2 keer genoemd in het hele artikel,

Maar goed, de arguido status is gelift en de zaak ligt in de kast, ben nu erg benieuwd naar het boek van Amaral, wie weet kan dat nog wat stof doen opwaaien, evenals de zaak zelf, is er zicht op dat er gedeeltes publiek worden? Is dat al bekend op 3arguido's?
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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 19:13:40 #24
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http://www.news.com.au/pe(...)8143-5005361,00.html
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Madeleine's parents share relief
From correspondents in London

July 22, 2008 12:20am
THE parents of missing British girl Madeleine McCann are relieved that their status as suspects has been lifted, a spokesman said today after Portuguese authorities closed their probe into the case.
Nou wat een opluchting zeg, ze zijn geen verdachte meer, maar er mist nog wel iets.....
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Gerry and Kate McCann, whose daughter vanished last May while they were on holiday in the Algarve, want access to Portuguese police files, spokesman Clarence Mitchell said.

"There is a degree of relief but no air of celebration whatsoever,'' he said.

"They should never have been arguidos (suspects). The fact that they have emerged from this without being charged proves that.''

"They will welcome this news, but the whole thing has been a distraction,'' he said.

"The main thing now is to get everything back onto finding Madeleine. The only thing they care about is finding their daughter.''
Daar hebben ze zelf geen debet aan met al die bemoeienis van hooggeplaatste vriendjes, het saboteren van het onderzoek en de weigering om terug te gaan naar portugal voor de reconstructie?
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Madeleine, then aged three, vanished from an apartment in the resort of Praia da Luz, on the Algarve, on May 3, 2007 as her parents dined with friends at a nearby restaurant.

The couple, both medical doctors, initially vowed not to leave Portugal until they found her, but came back to England after being made formal suspects in the case.
De grond werd gewoon te heet onder hun voeten.....
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"The search for her will now continue, and we hope that the Portuguese police, the Portuguese authorities will continue to cooperate with their private investigation to enable that to happen,'' said the parents' spokesman.

"They must cooperate and must allow access to the files for the private investigation to continue so that Madeleine can be found and brought home,'' he said.

"All of this has damaged their good reputation and they will now have to assess where they go from here.''
Ja natuurlijk, het ligt aan de Portugezen dat Maddy nog niet is gevonden, ze moeten als hondjes de files komen apporteren.

Hoe kwam het ook weer dat Madeleine in de eerste plaats verdwenen is? Omdat de McCanns zo goed hebben opgelet? Omdat ze voor een oppas hadden gezorgd zodat ze rustig uit konden gaan? Omdat ze daadwerkelijk elk kwartier de moeite hebben genomen bij hun kinderen, je weet wel die 3 kleintjes onder 4jaar oud, te gaan kijken?

Maar nee, de Portugezen, de pers en de fora hebben hun reputatie door het slijk gehaald en er voor gezorgd dat ze nog zoek is, echt waar......

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Ohw, de komende tijd is het alleen maar de McCanns & Co, wat ze allemaal hebben meegemaakt, nou ja, zie het verhaal van Spudgun, en hier moet idd rekening mee worden gehouden: "Clarence Mitchell will almost certainly be given greater impetus, either directly or otherwise, to organise the Government’s Media Monitoring Unit, to clamp down and to CLOSE down those websites and bloggers that influence sufficient numbers of people to be potentially detrimental to New Labours diktats, (as he did the MIRROR Forum)."

Het zal ook mij benieuwen of álle files straks openbaar worden gemaakt en ik ben des te meer nieuwsgierig naar die 81 documenten die nu net toevallig door de McCanns zijn veilig gesteld vlak voor deze bekendmaking, zien we hier een regie? Ik wel. Mogelijk zal nog steeds alles in het werk worden gesteld om bepaalde pijnlijke feiten verborgen te houden, vergeet Metodo 3 ook nog niet, indien er getuigen of anderzins verhalen gaan vertellen. Zal er nu eindelijk eens goeie onderzoeksjournalistiek komen? Voorlopig heb ik daar een hard hoofd in. Ik heb nog net voor de crash van het 3arguidoforum kunnen lezen dat de McCanns achter schadevergoedingen aangaan. En er komen grote sommen geld in het verschiet middels interviews en alles wat men verder kan verzinnnen, de zo gewilde celeb-status ligt binnen handbereik. En natuurlijk...keep Madeleine alive, wéér sightings, wéér geld bedelen en nu zullen goedwillende mensen zeker geld gaan geven, omdat de McCanns er nu zielig alleen voor staan....



Maar wat zijn er letterlijk voor conclusies zijn getrokken? De zaak gesloten wegens gebrek aan bewijs? Er is geen bewijs van a stranger abducter, wat is er dan wel duidelijk?

Het is eigenlijk maar een heel kort statementje van de PJ:
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PRESS RELEASE

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By the dispatch with today's date (21.07.2008) emmitted by the two magistrates of the Public Ministry competent for the case, it was decided the archiving of the inquiry related with the disappearance of the minor Madeleine McCann, for not having been obtained proof of the practice of any crime by the arguidos.

II

The condition of arguido of Robert James Queriol Evelegh Murat, Gerald Patrick McCann an Kate Marie Healy cease here, being declared extinct the coertion mesures superimposed to them.

III

There may be place to hierarchic appeal, a request to the opening of the instruction or the re-opening of the inquiry process, if requested by who has legitimacy t do it.

IV

The inquiry may be re-opened by the initiative of the Public Ministry or at the request of someone interested if new elements of proof emerge that may originate serious, pertinent and consequent diligences.

V

After the legal timings are passed, the process may be consulted by any person that reveals to hold a legitimate interest in it, as long as all the formalities imposed by law are observed.

Lisboa, 21 de Julho de 2008

The Press Office

Ana Lima

Leave comments to the Attorney General here: http://www.pgr.pt/english/index.htm
En Luz (ook bekend van vertalingen op het 3arguidoforum) schrijft hier: "and the time is very short: there's only ten days for the appeal, and ten days after that period all the documents that were not considered important are destroyed." Een aantal posters zijn dus even hier aan het posten nu het 3arguidoforum down is, was voorspeld, die grote aantallen bezoekers kunnen ze niet aan.

Een een statementje van Joana Morais



Joana verklaarde eerder op het 3arguidoforum zich te schamen Portugese te zijn maar dat is natuurlijk klinkklare onzin. Bovendien hebben we door haar e.a. nog iets van een andere berichtgeving kunnen lezen. Ze zal dit niet lezen maar ik bedank de Portugese posters en bloggers die de moeite hebben genomen alles te vertalen en het nog even blijven doen als er iets zomaar naar buiten komt...

Nou Amaral, kom maar op met dat boek!


"Truth about the Lie" 24/7 uit in Portugal maar de rest van de wereld?

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En voordat Charlotte's blog wordt 'kwijtgemaakt' zoals Clarence Mitchell ons doet geloven....haar kijk op o.a. het fonds-gebeuren:
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I sincerely wish Mr Amaral every success with his book. Does anyone know if it will be translated into English?

Mr Mitchell’s statement that others are making money out of Madeleine’s name could be classed as hypocritical considering the McCanns have announced forth coming movies, books and a substantial payment for an interview with Oprah Winfrey once their Arguido status is lifted. And they are still looking into new ‘solutions’ – according to yet more ‘close friends’ the McCanns may look into Mr Amaral’s book in the hope of finding something within its pages to sue the author.

Mr Mitchell had previously suggested that any monies from Mr Amaral’s book should be donated to the McCann fund – why on earth would he do that? Surely it should go towards his retirement? The McCanns have hauled in enough money through the public’s kindness and through suing British newspapers yet they still have not shown any proof that any of the fund money has gone towards finding Madeleine; still they have not released any audits to show exactly where the money donated by the public has been spent and still they are looking to build more through any means available.

What has struck me throughout the case is that the McCanns have not contributed anything themselves, the very people who say they are doing everything they can to (apparently) find Madeleine. Mr Mitchell goes on about the fund drying up and thrusting the begging bowl under the public’s noses as if he believes that the average person (who probably earns a mere pittance in comparison to the McCanns and Mr Mitchell) has an endless stream of money to give away to a fund that has not, as yet, been proven to be going towards ‘finding Madeleine.’ If they want the public to continuously donate money that they can probably ill afford, then surely the McCanns should have the decency to release audits of where, exactly, the fund money has so far been spent. What’s more, if they are so concerned about the fund running out then isn’t it about time that they showed willing and sold their house, down-sized and put their own money into the ‘find Madeleine Fund’?

Considering how the McCanns have acted, Is it any wonder that people are repeating their words “we are doing everything we can to find Madeleine” then adding “as long as it’s with someone else’s money”

So who, exactly, is making money out of whose name?
Ook zij krijgt een bloemetje, met een onderbreking, heeft Charlotte ook de kwestie nauwgezet gevolgd/gepubliceerd en vaak van nuttig, heel subtiel maar treffend van commentaar voorzien.

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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 21:05:52 #27
145755 kahaarin
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 20:34 schreef Suko het volgende:
Ohw, de komende tijd is het alleen maar de McCanns & Co, wat ze allemaal hebben meegemaakt, nou ja, zie het verhaal van Spudgun, en hier moet idd rekening mee worden gehouden: "Clarence Mitchell will almost certainly be given greater impetus, either directly or otherwise, to organise the Government’s Media Monitoring Unit, to clamp down and to CLOSE down those websites and bloggers that influence sufficient numbers of people to be potentially detrimental to New Labours diktats, (as he did the MIRROR Forum)."
Bah,bah, ik denk dat je gelijk hebt, Clarrie zal dit zien als overwinning en proberen dit om te buigen alsof de McCanns eigenlijk vleugeltjes zouden moeten hebben en een gouden harpje......
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Het zal ook mij benieuwen of álle files straks openbaar worden gemaakt en ik ben des te meer nieuwsgierig naar die 81 documenten die nu net toevallig door de McCanns zijn veilig gesteld vlak voor deze bekendmaking, zien we hier een regie? Ik wel. Mogelijk zal nog steeds alles in het werk worden gesteld om bepaalde pijnlijke feiten verborgen te houden, vergeet Metodo 3 ook nog niet, indien er getuigen of anderzins verhalen gaan vertellen. Zal er nu eindelijk eens goeie onderzoeksjournalistiek komen? Voorlopig heb ik daar een hard hoofd in. Ik heb nog net voor de crash van het 3arguidoforum kunnen lezen dat de McCanns achter schadevergoedingen aangaan. En er komen grote sommen geld in het verschiet middels interviews en alles wat men verder kan verzinnnen, de zo gewilde celeb-status ligt binnen handbereik. En natuurlijk...keep Madeleine alive, wéér sightings, wéér geld bedelen en nu zullen goedwillende mensen zeker geld gaan geven, omdat de McCanns er nu zielig alleen voor staan....
Natuurlijk, de zaak zit op slot en er moet zo veel mogelijk geld uit gehaald worden, die documenten zijn wellicht cruciaal voor de publieke kijk op de zaak, ik ben er ook niet meer zo zeker van dat dit enkel de getuigenverklaringen van de eerste periode waren, ze waren er zo op gebrand dat ik begin te denken dat dit de belastende verklaringen waren, nogmaals een klap in het gezicht van de PJ, dit had natuurlijk nooit in de handen van de, toen nog wel, verdachten mogen komen.
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Maar wat zijn er letterlijk voor conclusies zijn getrokken? De zaak gesloten wegens gebrek aan bewijs? Er is geen bewijs van a stranger abducter, wat is er dan wel duidelijk?

Het is eigenlijk maar een heel kort statementje van de PJ:
Het enige wat die zegt is dat er geen bewijzen zijn, niet meer en niet minder, bewijzen verzamelen was hem ook bijna onmogelijk gemaakt, kijk maar eens naar wat er is gebeurd met die rogatory letters en de statements die van geen kanten aansloten maar die hij ook nooit heeft kunnen checken allemaal, team McCann zag het nut er niet van in om die reconstructie te doen immers.
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En Luz (ook bekend van vertalingen op het 3arguidoforum) schrijft hier: "and the time is very short: there's only ten days for the appeal, and ten days after that period all the documents that were not considered important are destroyed." Een aantal posters zijn dus even hier aan het posten nu het 3arguidoforum down is, was voorspeld, die grote aantallen bezoekers kunnen ze niet aan.
Ik maak me sterk dat als die dossiers vernietigd moeten worden er heus wel sources close to er de hand op weten te leggen, ik kan me niet voorstellen dat ze dit gewoon maar allemaal bij het vuilnis zetten, dit is te groot om onder het tapijt te vegen.
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Een een statementje van Joana Morais

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Tja, hard maar waarschijnlijk waar, poppetje......
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Joana verklaarde eerder op het 3arguidoforum zich te schamen Portugese te zijn maar dat is natuurlijk klinkklare onzin. Bovendien hebben we door haar e.a. nog iets van een andere berichtgeving kunnen lezen. Ze zal dit niet lezen maar ik bedank de Portugese posters en bloggers die de moeite hebben genomen alles te vertalen en het nog even blijven doen als er iets zomaar naar buiten komt...

Nou Amaral, kom maar op met dat boek!
De Portugezen hoeven zich nergens voor te schamen, degenen die dat wel zouden moeten doen hebben het te druk met vingerwijzen en beschuldigen, dat boek is imho echt 1 van de laatste mogelijkheden om enigzins een beetje licht op de zaak te werpen.
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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 21:22:49 #28
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Een zaak 'gewonnen' en een kind verloren...., ik weet niet wat ik er van moet zeggen of denken. Kennelijk hadden teveel mensen iets te verliezen en was het daarom zo moeilijk om te achterhalen wat er nou precies is gebeurd op 2 of 3 mei. Ik hoop dat ooit iemand toch gaat praten, of zou dat ijdele hoop zijn?
Als je goed om je heen kijkt zie je dat alles gekleurd is.
  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 21:29:21 #29
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 21:22 schreef livelink het volgende:
Een zaak 'gewonnen' en een kind verloren...., ik weet niet wat ik er van moet zeggen of denken. Kennelijk hadden teveel mensen iets te verliezen en was het daarom zo moeilijk om te achterhalen wat er nou precies is gebeurd op 2 of 3 mei. Ik hoop dat ooit iemand toch gaat praten, of zou dat ijdele hoop zijn?
Iets met spijkers en koppen idd, hopelijk komt er nog iets boven water......
be nice or go away
  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 21:40:04 #30
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De vraag is wat er erger is. Dat Madeleine verwaarloosd en wel op geheimzinnige wijze gedood is of het volstrekt falen van de normale rechtsgang. Het eerste is een gruwelijk incident, het tweede suggereert dat een armer EG land onder grote druk gesteld door cynische mensen niet in staat is recht te doen gelden. Ik zal de komende tijd nog vaak denken aan deze zaak en welk aspect nu het meest afgrijselijk is.

Enfin op naar Ophrey en het grote cashen. Ouders overal ter wereld trek lering uit dit verhaal en dump de lastpak in Portugal voor grotere roem en massa's geld. Arme Madeleine geeft volgens haar moeder nog steeds haar twopence worth aan haar 'abductors', maar haar ouders doen het natuurlijk niet voor zulke kleine bedragen.
Here we are now, entertain us.
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 21:05 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Bah,bah, ik denk dat je gelijk hebt, Clarrie zal dit zien als overwinning en proberen dit om te buigen alsof de McCanns eigenlijk vleugeltjes zouden moeten hebben en een gouden harpje......
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Natuurlijk, de zaak zit op slot en er moet zo veel mogelijk geld uit gehaald worden, die documenten zijn wellicht cruciaal voor de publieke kijk op de zaak, ik ben er ook niet meer zo zeker van dat dit enkel de getuigenverklaringen van de eerste periode waren, ze waren er zo op gebrand dat ik begin te denken dat dit de belastende verklaringen waren, nogmaals een klap in het gezicht van de PJ, dit had natuurlijk nooit in de handen van de, toen nog wel, verdachten mogen komen.
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Jee Kahaarin, daar zit wat in, tuurlijk ziiten er heel belastende verklaringen in en mogelijk nog wat uitslagen van het een of ander....
Het enige wat die zegt is dat er geen bewijzen zijn, niet meer en niet minder, bewijzen verzamelen was hem ook bijna onmogelijk gemaakt, kijk maar eens naar wat er is gebeurd met die rogatory letters en de statements die van geen kanten aansloten maar die hij ook nooit heeft kunnen checken allemaal, team McCann zag het nut er niet van in om die reconstructie te doen immers.
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Yep, nogmaals, niet meewerken loont kennelijk, dat begrihp ik ook nog steeds niet. Die vrienden waren dan wel geen formeel verdachten maar het moge duidelijk zijn dat ze geen klap hebben uitgevoerd enig zicht in de zaak te krijgen en te helpen Madeleine te vinden, integendeel zou ik zeggen.
Ik maak me sterk dat als die dossiers vernietigd moeten worden er heus wel sources close to er de hand op weten te leggen, ik kan me niet voorstellen dat ze dit gewoon maar allemaal bij het vuilnis zetten, dit is te groot om onder het tapijt te vegen.
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Nou ja, niet bij het vuilnis, dat ook nou weer niet, maar mogelijk in een kluis of zo, maar vermoedelijk heeft Correio da Manhã nog wat liggen, die krant heeft kennelijk heel veel materiaal in handen zoals we konden lezen....
Tja, hard maar waarschijnlijk waar, poppetje......
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De Portugezen hoeven zich nergens voor te schamen, degenen die dat wel zouden moeten doen hebben het te druk met vingerwijzen en beschuldigen, dat boek is imho echt 1 van de laatste mogelijkheden om enigzins een beetje licht op de zaak te werpen.
Dat wordt een bestseller, indien het ook buiten Portugal wordt uitgegeven, Amaral is er klaar voor, ook voor de aanklachten die het team McCann mogelijk tegen hem gaan indienen.
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 21:22 schreef livelink het volgende:
Een zaak 'gewonnen' en een kind verloren...., ik weet niet wat ik er van moet zeggen of denken. Kennelijk hadden teveel mensen iets te verliezen en was het daarom zo moeilijk om te achterhalen wat er nou precies is gebeurd op 2 of 3 mei. Ik hoop dat ooit iemand toch gaat praten, of zou dat ijdele hoop zijn?
Dat hopen velen met jou, er zijn zoveel mensen bij betrokken...vroeger of later komt het naar buiten, als een rollercoaster de rest, kan niet anders.

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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 21:54:19 #32
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 21:40 schreef voyeur het volgende:
De vraag is wat er erger is. Dat Madeleine verwaarloosd en wel op geheimzinnige wijze gedood is of het volstrekt falen van de normale rechtsgang. Het eerste is een gruwelijk incident, het tweede suggereert dat een armer EG land onder grote druk gesteld door cynische mensen niet in staat is recht te doen gelden. Ik zal de komende tijd nog vaak denken aan deze zaak en welk aspect nu het meest afgrijselijk is.

Enfin op naar Ophrey en het grote cashen. Ouders overal ter wereld trek lering uit dit verhaal en dump de lastpak in Portugal voor grotere roem en massa's geld. Arme Madeleine geeft volgens haar moeder nog steeds haar twopence worth aan haar 'abductors', maar haar ouders doen het natuurlijk niet voor zulke kleine bedragen.
Het is heel wrang dat het hier gewoon op neerkomt idd, ook dat Suko gewoon gelijk heeft wat betreft tear yerkers en Clarrie spin, hopelijk heb je niet net gegeten want dit artikel is echt misselijk makend....
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Lisbon/London - The parents of missing British toddler Madeleine McCann vowed Monday that they would never give up the search for their daughter even though the Portuguese investigations into the case have been closed.

Speaking at their home in Britain, Kate and Gerry McCann said they were relieved that the Portuguese attorney general, who Monday announced that the case would be closed, had lifted their status as official suspects, or arguidos.

'It is hard to describe how utterly despairing it was to be named arguidos and subsequently portrayed in the media as suspects in our own daughter's abduction,' said Kate McCann.

'It has been equally devastating to witness the detrimental effect this status has had on the search for Madeleine.'

'We shall leave no stone unturned to find our little girl,' said Kate McCann, who was close to tears in a joint media appearance with her husband in the couple's home town of Rothley, in central England.

Their statement came only hours after the office of Portuguese attorney general Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro announced that the Madeleine inquiry was being shelved for lack of evidence after 14 months of investigations.

The McCann's status as suspects, along with that of fellow-Briton Robert Murat, was being lifted, said the attorney's statement.

No evidence had been found that Gerry and Kate McCann or Murat had committed 'any crime,' the statement said, adding that the three were no longer subjected to any bail measures or other restrictions. the communique said.

If new significant evidence emerged, however, the case could be reopened at the initiative of the attorney general, or at the request of any authorized person.

Madeleine, then aged 3, disappeared from a holiday apartment in the southern Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007, while her parents were eating at a nearby Tapas restaurant.

'There is a degree of relief but no air of celebration whatsoever,' said their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, earlier.

'They are a wronged couple. They should never have been arguidos,' he added.

Since being named suspects by Portuguese police last September, Kate and Gerry McCann had to bear 'this agony as well as the pain of losing their daughter.'

The McCann's have said they will hand over the case documents to a team of private detectives in a renewed effort to find Madeleine.

'The main thing now is to get everything back to finding Madeleine. All of this has damaged their good reputations and they will have to assess where they go from here.'

'The only thing they care about is finding Madeleine. We hope that the Portuguese authorities will continue to cooperate with their private investigation,' the parents' spokesman said.

The McCann's said they hoped the search for Madeleine would now be given fresh impetus by people coming forward with information.

But the Portuguese report stressed that there is a 'strong belief by British and Portuguese police that Madeleine is dead,' London's Evening Standard newspaper said Monday.

The lengthy and complex investigations in Portugal were marked by mutual recriminations, with British media accusing the Portuguese police of incompetence, and newspapers in Portugal suggesting that the McCann's were responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine.

According to the Evening Standard, the attorney general's report contains a 'strong condemnation' of Portuguese police for 'paying to much attention to the media' while the massive search for Madeleine was going on in the summer of 2007.

But the officer leading the investigations at the time, again insisted Monday that Madeleine died inside the apartment.

'The evidence that we had gathered by the time that I left the case, pointed to the girl being dead - and having died inside the apartment. I don't know what happened next,' Goncalo Amaral, who was sacked from the inquiry last October, told the BBC Monday.

Meanwhile in Britain, a former detective criticised the Portuguese authorities' decision to shelve the Madeleine case as 'appalling' and 'unacceptable.'

'I don't believe 14 months into an investigation you can put it on the shelf. I think this is appalling,' said child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas.

While he agreed that the arguido status on Madeleine's parents and Murat should have been lifted, it was now questionable how much time the police would devote to searching for Madeleine.

'They have got to keep looking for Madeleine because if they aren't looking for her, who is?' said Williams-Thomas.
http://www.monstersandcri(...)spects__2nd_Roundup_

Ondanks alle vows en tears staan de agony en pain van de ouders vooraan in de statements, hoe durf je over je eigen sores te zeuren als je kind weg is en je zelf hebt bijgedragen aan de verdwijning door te gaan zitten zuipen met je vrienden terwijl je kids moederziel alleen in een open appartement liggen, ik weet het, mijn plaat loopt vast en ik heb dit al ik weet niet hoe vaak gezegd maar kom op zeg, het is toch te erg dat mensen die hun kinderen achterlaten om te gaan feesten zo'n ontzettend podium krijgen om hun jankverhalen en beschuldigingen te uiten, in 1 woord walgelijk......
be nice or go away
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 21:54 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Het is heel wrang dat het hier gewoon op neerkomt idd, ook dat Suko gewoon gelijk heeft wat betreft tear yerkers en Clarrie spin, hopelijk heb je niet net gegeten want dit artikel is echt misselijk makend....
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http://www.monstersandcri(...)spects__2nd_Roundup_

Ondanks alle vows en tears staan de agony en pain van de ouders vooraan in de statements, hoe durf je over je eigen sores te zeuren als je kind weg is en je zelf hebt bijgedragen aan de verdwijning door te gaan zitten zuipen met je vrienden terwijl je kids moederziel alleen in een open appartement liggen, ik weet het, mijn plaat loopt vast en ik heb dit al ik weet niet hoe vaak gezegd maar kom op zeg, het is toch te erg dat mensen die hun kinderen achterlaten om te gaan feesten zo'n ontzettend podium krijgen om hun jankverhalen en beschuldigingen te uiten, in 1 woord walgelijk......
Neuh, ik lees dat artikel niet... Kahaarin, cool down! Wat wij en andere posters op fora/blogs denken en de zaak op de voet hebben gevolgd, ik wed dat daarbuiten heel mensen hetzelfde denken, ze zijn nog lang niet verlost van mensen die de McCanns voor geen meter vertrouwen, en denken...opzouten! I'm sure...En mochten ze bij Oprah op de bank gaan zitten dan zal zij hen best het vuur aan de schenen leggen...zij heeft ook een reputatie hoog te houden, vooral wat kinderen betreft. Maar zij betaalt geen gasten dacht ik. "The Oprah Winfrey Show does not pay for news interviews." Bron Mogelijk wordt het dan toch Babara Walters, haar ken ik trouwens niet.

Overigens heeft het 3arguidoforum een nieuwe opzet: Madeleine McCann - The Way Ahead Zo traag als dikke jeweetwel...maar goed.

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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 21:40 schreef voyeur het volgende:
De vraag is wat er erger is. Dat Madeleine verwaarloosd en wel op geheimzinnige wijze gedood is of het volstrekt falen van de normale rechtsgang. Het eerste is een gruwelijk incident, het tweede suggereert dat een armer EG land onder grote druk gesteld door cynische mensen niet in staat is recht te doen gelden. Ik zal de komende tijd nog vaak denken aan deze zaak en welk aspect nu het meest afgrijselijk is.

Enfin op naar Ophrey en het grote cashen. Ouders overal ter wereld trek lering uit dit verhaal en dump de lastpak in Portugal voor grotere roem en massa's geld. Arme Madeleine geeft volgens haar moeder nog steeds haar twopence worth aan haar 'abductors', maar haar ouders doen het natuurlijk niet voor zulke kleine bedragen.
Hoi Voyeur, oe...hard maar zo waar. Wat een voorbeeld idd voor de moderne goed verdienende 'ouders'... met kennelijk een ongewenst kind...imo.

Joana Morais meldt: "PJ Final Report - All the Investigation on the McCanns "57 pages to be translated - update will follow as soon as possible."

Mmmm, het waren toch echt 11000 (-81 natuurlijk) documenten...."The result today is only a partial victory for the McCanns because they are only being given access to 81 pieces of a massive 11,000 pieces of evidence held by the British force." Bron Nou ja, zal dan wel net passen in het rapport van 57 pagina's.

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  maandag 21 juli 2008 @ 22:39:50 #35
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 22:11 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Neuh, ik lees dat artikel niet... Kahaarin, cool down! Wat wij en andere posters op fora/blogs denken en de zaak op de voet hebben gevolgd, ik wed dat daarbuiten heel mensen hetzelfde denken, ze zijn nog lang niet verlost van mensen die de McCanns voor geen meter vertrouwen, en denken...opzouten! I'm sure...En mochten ze bij Oprah op de bank gaan zitten dan zal zij hen best het vuur aan de schenen leggen...zij heeft ook een reputatie hoog te houden, vooral wat kinderen betreft. Maar zij betaalt geen gasten dacht ik. "The Oprah Winfrey Show does not pay for news interviews." Bron Mogelijk wordt het dan toch Babara Walters, haar ken ik trouwens niet.

Overigens heeft het 3arguidoforum een nieuwe opzet: Madeleine McCann - The Way Ahead Zo traag als dikke jeweetwel...maar goed.
Ik moest me gewoon even afreageren, ik heb de NewsNow site dichtgegooid en kijk er niet eerder weer naar dan morgen, I promiss.
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 22:39 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ik moest me gewoon even afreageren, ik heb de NewsNow site dichtgegooid en kijk er niet eerder weer naar dan morgen, I promiss.
Heel verstandig....

Interessant: "Pinto Monteiro was faced with choosing between bringing charges in connection with Madeleine's disappearance, closing the case or asking the police to continue investigating". The Gaurdian

What was wrong with exercising the first option? Bron

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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 23:00 schreef Suko het volgende:

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Heel verstandig....

Interessant: "Pinto Monteiro was faced with choosing between bringing charges in connection with Madeleine's disappearance, closing the case or asking the police to continue investigating". The Gaurdian

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Dames het is jammer dat het zo moet eindigen, VOORLOPIG !!!! maar er moet wel voldoende bewijs ergo politieke medewerking zijn om een rechtzaak te beginnen. Treurig...
haastige spoed is zelden goed, maar kom ik te laat sta ik op straat.
  dinsdag 22 juli 2008 @ 00:29:03 #38
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Ook in de (papieren) Telegraaf aandacht voor het aanstaande boek van Goncala Amaral.
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’Onthullingen’ zaak-Maddie

LISSABON, maandag
Het voormalige Portugese hoofd van het onderzoek naar de verdwenen Madeleine McCann presenteert deze week zijn boek over de zaak en kondigt explosieve onthullingen aan.
Juist vandaag sluiten de Portugese aanklagers de zaak van het vorig jaar verdwenen Britse meisje waarschijnlijk wegens gebrek aan bewijs.
Ex-onderzoeker Goncala Amaral, die in oktober van de zaak werd afgehaald, belooft aanstaande donderdag echter met „explosieve onthullingen” te komen. Vooral over de rol van de Britse politie zou hij het nodige hebben te melden. Hij gelooft dat Maddie niet meer leeft.
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Op dinsdag 22 juli 2008 00:29 schreef schatje het volgende:
Ook in de (papieren) Telegraaf aandacht voor het aanstaande boek van Goncala Amaral.
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Maar het zal de uitkomst van nu niet veranderen, mogelijk wél de opinie van het publiek, waarbij ik me afvraag of dat boek van Amaral wel mág uitkomen in de UK. Het team McCann staat al op de achterste poten om Amaral voor het gerecht te slepen én mogelijk verbod op het boek, hun radertjes zijn sterk zoals is gebleken.

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Gisteravond Newsnight gekeken op de BBC en ik kon niet geloven wat verslaggeefster Caroline Hawley vanuit Praia da Luze er van bakte...Natuurlijk zijn er vet fouten gemaakt, zeker. Maar een aantal wordt (bewust?) verkeerd weergegeven. Ondere andere het bevuilen van zoveel mensen in het apartement na de vermissing, de crime-scene was niet direct afgesloten. Niet zo verwonderlijk als men bedenkt dat niet inmiddellijk de politie is gebeld. Kate rende na tien min. naar de Tapasbar, de twins alleen achterlatend, en pas na pakweg 40 min-1 uur werd de politie gebeld, inmiddels was het apartement vol met die Tapas-vrienden, mensen van de Ocean Club, meubels verschoven...

"Around 9 p.m., Gerry guarantees that he went to check on his children: but he failed to enter Madeleine’s bedroom and only later gave importance to the fact that the door was more open than he had left it. The alert to the little girl’s disappearance was given at approximately 10 p.m., and one hour later the GNR was informed about the event. The English guarantee that they only alerted BBC at around 2 a.m." Eerdere post

En El Pais: "The British media closed ranks around the pair of doctors as soon as the disappearance occurred. Three days after the report, the circus was already installed next door to Ocean Club. El Pais went to Praia da Luz that week; there were 33 Sky News journalists and 18 from the BBC. Sky had access to the news of the kidnapping before the Portuguese police, confirmed a Police source. “Someone in the McCann circle phoned the Sky News Algarve correspondent from the Ocean Club on the night of the crime. The call was made at 22.11 pm. We ourselves were informed of the disappearance half an hour later, at 22.40”. Eerdere post

En weer meldde de verslaggeefster gisteravond dat Kate een deal was aangeboden door de politie zoals beschreven in het BBC-transscript "BILTON: At 3 in the morning after Kate McCann has returned to her villa, her lawyer arrives with what seems to be a deal. Plead guilty to manslaughter and escape with only 2 years in gaol. As he explains the offer, Philomena McCann is on the phone to her sister Trish. PHILOMENA McCANN Gerry McCann's sister: "Trisha hangs out with a mobile and there I am listening to Kate screaming at the lawyer: "No! No!" and just the emotion and the disgust, her tone, everything that was being conveyed, I mean what she was saying and the anger, you could feel it." Met varianten o.a. in The Sun, en in de Daily Mail.

Maar wat melldt de advocaat van de McCanns later over deze deal: "Portuguese police, meanwhile, last night described as 'absolutely absurd' reports that Kate McCann was offered a plea bargain during questioning should she admit to the accidental death of her daughter.The McCanns' Portuguese lawyer, Carlos Pinto de Abreu, said that the newspaper reports were due to a 'misunderstanding' that had arisen during questioning." The Guardian

En ook op de BBC, peetoom van de twins Corner werd ook even op z'n plaats gezet: "Mr Corner had previously said Mrs McCann told him officers had tried to "cut her a deal" under which she would serve only two years in jail if she confessed. But Portugal-based British journalist Paul Luckman told the BBC that under Portuguese law there is a set sentence for each crime which not even a judge can change. He said it would not be possible for the police to make such a deal." Uit een eerdere post op 17 nov 2007 Tja...Kate weigerde gewoon verdere vragen te beantwoorden en dan moet je toch wát verzinnen....

Zo, Newsnight (ook BBC...) had dit makkelijk kunnen checken...maar als men alleen de tabloids als bronnen neemt...dat ziet er voorlopig niet goed uit qua journalistiek.

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The PJ refuse to abandon the Maddie case in spite of the, "McCann case."
SOS Madeleine McCann 21/07/08 (vertaling )

The PJ are not ready to abandon the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in spite of the announcement from the office of the Attorney General of the Republic (PGR) that the process would be archived. The Portimao Department of Criminal Investigation (DIC) of the PJ which has investigated Madeleine's disappearance, "is going to be strengthened briefly," a police source confirmed in statements to the Lusa agency.

According to the same source, the strengthening of the resources of the Portimao PJ is intended to cope with the possibility of new leads or sensitive details to be analysed within the framework of the Maddie case. The National Directorate of the PJ, led by Almeida Rodrigues, gave instructions about the way in which every lead in connection with the Madeleine case, "is immediately investigated."

The decision of the Public Minister (MP) to archive the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance and to lift the arguidos status of the parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, was not greeted with suprise by the PJ investigators or the British police: one of the investigators affirmed, "having been the victims of an agreement which goes over their heads and which does not take account of the interests of the victim, Maddie."

"The Maddie case has become the McCann case, we have gone from a police investigation to a case of political protection and manipulation of the law," a British police officer accuses in statements to SMM. Duarte Levy & Paulo Reis
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Op dit moment is Joana Morais met de vertaling bezig van het eind-rapport, nog een aantal bladzijdjes, delen zijn al te lezen, van de 57 pagina's zijn 27 and 28 klaar, maar wie het Portugees beheerst: Document in PDF - PJ Report in Portuguese
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Madeleine Cops File Leaked On Web Sky News
Madeleine Files Leaked

Breaking News10:06am UK, Tuesday July 22, 2008
Martin Brunt, Crime correspondent, in Praia da Luz

Kate and Gerry McCann have to wait a week to see the police files on the Madeleine case, but a summary has already been leaked to a Portuguese website. It explains why the couple were made arguidos... because of the "scent of death" detected by the cadaver dog and their own reluctance to answer police questions.

According to the leak, the dog found the smell of a corpse in the couple's bedroom at apartment 5a and behind a sofa in the living room. The dog detected the same on Madeleine's soft toy Cuddle Cat and on the key fob in the family's hire car.

The police report says the couple were made arguidos "due to the slight possibility of connection to a corpse".The second animal - a blood dog - found traces of Madeleine's blood behind the couch, on two items of Kate McCann's clothes and on the key fob and in the car boot, according to the leak.

It also says there was a DNA match to Madeleine's on samples taken from the car but later forensic results did not confirm that initial finding. Robert Murat was made a suspect after a British Sunday newspaper reporter gave his name to police because of his "inquisitive" behaviour.

Suspicions were fuelled by friends of the McCanns who claimed he helped in the search for Madeleine on the night she vanished, contradicting his alibi that he was at his nearby home with his mother all night. The report says detectives found no one else who saw him on the night and telephone wires and searches provided no evidence of his involvement.

In a fascinating glimpse of the kind of information fed to police, one witness said he had overhead Gerry McCann talking into his mobile phone in nearby Lagos and saying "please don't hurt Madeleine". Detectives did cell site analysis on Gerry's phone and established he was elsewhere at the time. The witness was wrong.
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  dinsdag 22 juli 2008 @ 12:35:10 #41
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Op maandag 21 juli 2008 23:38 schreef Ledikant56 het volgende:

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Dames het is jammer dat het zo moet eindigen, VOORLOPIG !!!! maar er moet wel voldoende bewijs ergo politieke medewerking zijn om een rechtzaak te beginnen. Treurig...
Je hebt gelijk, en bedankt!
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  dinsdag 22 juli 2008 @ 12:47:53 #42
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Goeddemiddag!

Ik ben weer kalm, ik heb dit zelfs kunnen lezen zonder dat mijn bloeddruk steeg, de McCanns willen de PJ aanklagen, ze zijn zo boos omdat ze arguido zijn gemaakt:

http://www.telegraph.co.u(...)rtuguese-police.html
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Madeleine McCann: Kate and Gerry could sue'Portuguese police
Kate and Gerry McCann could sue Portuguese police over their decision to make them formal suspects in the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine.

Portuguese prosecutors announced that they had no evidence that the McCanns or fellow suspect Robert Murat Photo: GETTY IMAGES

Speaking at a press conference to mark the lifting of their "arguidos" status after 10 months, they refused to rule out taking legal action.

Their lawyers will spend the coming weeks examining the police case files for unexplored leads to search for the little girl, and to judge whether they should start legal proceedings.

The McCanns have vowed to continue their search for Madeleine, who disappeared from the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz 14 months ago, and said there was "no celebration" at the news their arguidos status had been revoked.

After an exhaustive investigation lasting more than 14 months, Portuguese prosecutors announced yesterday that they had no evidence that the McCanns or fellow suspect Robert Murat had committed any crimes.

As a result they shelved the case and lifted the arguido status of the three.

Clarence Mitchell, the couple's spokesman, said their lawyers would be given access to police files later this week.

Mr Mitchell said: "By the end of this week, lawyers will have complete access to everything. They will have 20 days to assess the work of the police and what has been done and what hasn't been done."

He added: "If they feel legal action is necessary, we could press charges."

Mr McCann told the press conference they would not rule out returning to Portugal or taking action against the Portuguese authorities.

He said: "We don't have any immediate plans to return to Portugal at the moment.

"Obviously we want to digest the statement and also to get access to the files to see what can still be done."

He said any legal action would be "secondary" to finding their daughter.

The McCanns, both 40, looked tired at the press conference in their home village of Rothley, Leicestershire.

Mrs McCann told journalists: "It is hard to describe how utterly despairing it was to be named arguidos and subsequently portrayed in the media as suspects in our own daughter's abduction.

"It has been equally devastating to witness the detrimental effect this status has had on the search for Madeleine."

Mr Murat, 34, an Anglo-Portuguese property consultant, said he was relieved to have his arguido status lifted but feared some people would still doubt his innocence.

Hours before the prosecutors' announcement on Monday, the former head of the Portuguese police investigation reaffirmed his belief that the young girl died inside her parents' holiday flat.

The McCanns have always strenuously denied any involvement in their daughter's disappearance and say they will believe she is alive until given firm evidence to the contrary.

Ex-detective Goncalo Amaral, who was removed from the inquiry last October after criticising British police, will publish a book about his involvement in the case on Thursday.

He claimed: "The evidence that we had gathered by the time that I left the case, pointed to the girl being dead - and having died inside the apartment.

"I don't know what happened next. I can't say. We'll have to wait for the case files to be made public."

However, Fernando Jose Monteiro, Portugal's attorney general, said the police had found no evidence linking the McCanns, or fellow suspect Robert Murat, to Madeleine's suspected abduction, and lifted all conditions imposed on them.

Portuguese police have said the investigation could be re-opened if new evidence comes to light.
Nou ben ik heel benieuwd of ze dit uit het Maddy-fund willen betalen en wat de reactie van de geldschieters zal zijn, dit heeft imho niets te maken met de zaak, niets te maken met Madleine maar met hun eigen gram halen, laten ze dat geld gebruiken voor de zoektocht naar Maddy ipv hun lelieblanke achterwerken schoon te praten.
Ze zijn zelf immers echt niet van alle smetten vrij.

Ik heb trouwens zo maar een ideetje, zou het kunnen zijn dat als ze veroordeeld waren voor neglect, ze dan niet meer veroordeeld kunnen worden voor de eventuele verdwijning? Je kunt natuurlijk niet voor verwaarlozing met de dood tot gevolg worden veroordeeld en daarbovenop voor dood door schuld.
De zaak ligt alleen maar op de plank totdat er nieuw bewijs is, niet meer en niet minder, als er nieuw bewijs komt bovendrijven kunnen de McCanns alsnog opgepakt worden, als ze al schuldig waren bevonden niet meer natuurlijk.

Suko had wel gelijk dat er nu in de eerste tijd na de statements van de PJ de McCanns een nieuwe campagne aan het voeren zijn om er zelf beter uit te zien, een 'wronged couple'.......
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Nou, kappen met die hele zooi want uiteindelijk blijkt dat men geen concreet bewijs heeft gehad en alles op speculatie en heresay verhalen heeft laten lopen.
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Op dinsdag 22 juli 2008 12:47 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Goeddemiddag!

Ik ben weer kalm, ik heb dit zelfs kunnen lezen zonder dat mijn bloeddruk steeg, de McCanns willen de PJ aanklagen, ze zijn zo boos omdat ze arguido zijn gemaakt:
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Nou ben ik heel benieuwd of ze dit uit het Maddy-fund willen betalen en wat de reactie van de geldschieters zal zijn, dit heeft imho niets te maken met de zaak, niets te maken met Madleine maar met hun eigen gram halen, laten ze dat geld gebruiken voor de zoektocht naar Maddy ipv hun lelieblanke achterwerken schoon te praten.
Ze zijn zelf immers echt niet van alle smetten vrij.

Ik heb trouwens zo maar een ideetje, zou het kunnen zijn dat als ze veroordeeld waren voor neglect, ze dan niet meer veroordeeld kunnen worden voor de eventuele verdwijning? Je kunt natuurlijk niet voor verwaarlozing met de dood tot gevolg worden veroordeeld en daarbovenop voor dood door schuld.
De zaak ligt alleen maar op de plank totdat er nieuw bewijs is, niet meer en niet minder, als er nieuw bewijs komt bovendrijven kunnen de McCanns alsnog opgepakt worden, als ze al schuldig waren bevonden niet meer natuurlijk.

Suko had wel gelijk dat er nu in de eerste tijd na de statements van de PJ de McCanns een nieuwe campagne aan het voeren zijn om er zelf beter uit te zien, een 'wronged couple'.......
Jouw ideetje is lang zo gek niet, de zaak is nog lang niet beklonken! En dat fonds zou eens onderzocht moeten worden, het stinkt aan alle kanten, maar ja, wie heeft de ingang daartoe...en de moed?!

En verder, als je alleen al het eind-rapport (hier en ook hier te lezen) maar vluchtig leest, nog afgezien van het feit dat er veel niet instaat, vanwege privacy redenen, en ook wegens de 81 documenten die de McCanns in handen hebben, dan is het eigenlijk niet te snappen waarom er op z'n minst niet kan worden ge-eist dat de McCanns naar Praia dea Luz terug moeten ivm een reconstructie en er liggen nog wat vragen 'open.' Joana Morais (aka xklamation op het 3areguidoforum) merkt nog op: "The original document came from Expresso Newspaper, it's on-line. Apparently it is the true thing: the real PJ's Final Report. - (a very small part of the full process which consists in 19 volumes, around 200 thousand documents)." Wat mij ook opvalt is dat eerdere artikelen uit de Correio da Manhã vrij correct waren, stukjes zijn in het eindrapport te lezen, ook in deze en voorgaande topic gepost:

2 juli Archived with a homicide stamp
5 juli Report of PJ Discards Kidnapp Theory
5 juli (vervolg) INVESTIGATION REVEALS ABDUCTION IMPOSSIBLE (ook over Mrs. Fenn)
6 juli English combined depositions
7 juli Irishman saw Gerry carry Maddie
8 juli Murat's life rummaged within the case
18 juli English want secrecy
19 juli PJ admitted a simulation of the scenario
19 juli English Ignored Complaint for Paedophilia Against One of the McCanns Friends
19 juli Payne suspected of paedophilia
20 juli English defended the use of the dogs
21 juli PJ wanted to hear the McCanns again


Maar goed, duidelijk is wederom dat het publiek lang niet alles te zien krijgt, verder reacties/opmerkingen op het rapport zijn hier te lezen. Voor wie interesse heeft in een Q en A tussen het publiek en woordvoerder van de McCanns Clarence Mitchell, Charlotte heeft het uitgeschreven: Copy of the Live Chat with Mr Mitchell

En kennelijk heeft het 3arguidofroum een waarschuwing gekregen: "I am sorry that it has come to the stage, but we are going to have to be a bit more heavy handed, and some of you might think this is unfair, but the last thing we need is complaints from hosts and them suspending the account."

Een overdenking tot slot: in het eindrapport staat dat op 1 mei buuv Mrs.Fenn Madeleine heeft horen huilen, je kan er gif op innemen dat hetzelde op 2 mei en mogelijk voor 1 mei is gebeurd: "On page 2412, is the interview with PAMELA FENN, who relates several details, of which, though not clarifying the facts, are elucidating. PAMELA FENN lives on the first floor of the residential block, above the apartment occupied by the McCANN family. She related that, on 1 May 2007, two days before the disappearance, at about 22h30, she heard a child crying, which by the sound was MADELEINE. The child continued weeping for one hour and 15 minutes, until the parent’s arrival (she heard the door sounds), at about 23h45. This witness places in cause the allegation (by the parents) of the daily routine of visits every 30 minutes to check the children who had been left on their own." Zie ook 5 juli (vervolg) INVESTIGATION REVEALS ABDUCTION IMPOSSIBLE

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Goeiedag zeg... Vandaag het eerste deel van Amaral's boek in Correio da Manhã, nou ja, fragmentjes dan, een Google-vertaling:
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July 23, 2008 - 00:30 am Pre-publication
"Madeleine died in apartment''
The 'CM' begins to be published today, exclusively excerpts from the book of Gonçalo Amaral, who believes that Madeleine McCann died in apartment in Praia da Luz The episode of holidays of 2005, in Majorca - they are raised suspicions about a friend the couple - and the results of DNA are the first excerpt.

Madeleine Beth McCann, with 2 ½ years, and their twin brothers at the time with few months old, departing on vacation in the company of parents to the island of Majorca. Together with three other couples they go to doctors with their children. [...] SG had attended the University of Dundee, between 1987 and 1992, there has known the future mother of Madeleine. KG only came to know Gerry McCann in this marriage with Kate Healy, around 1998, in Liverpool. After that event, the couple SG KG and become close friends of the parents of Madeleine and is a regular, passing week-end together, maintaining contact by phone.

In the third or fourth night in Majorca, after dinner, eating and drinking, when they were seated around a table in a courtyard outside the house, KG attends a scene that has caused fear for the welfare of her daughter and other children. She was seated between Gerry McCann and David Payne, when he heard the latter ask if she, perhaps referring to Madelein, would do 'this', starting in the act following a suck their fingers, which hinders the mouth and rising, suggesting a fálico subject, while with the fingers of the other hand, formed circles around the nipple, as a provocative and sexual. At a time when KG looked with amazement to Gerry McCann and David Payne, it was made a nervous silence. After all the talk continued as if nothing had happened. This episode caused KG in a serious doubt about the relationship of David Payne with children. In yet another occasion, KG would see David Payne to make the same gestures, this time speaking of their daughter. In that period of leave were the parents who gave bath for children, but from there KG never left the David Payne closer to their daughter. After these holiday in Majorca, KG only found the couple David and Fiona Payne on one occasion, not talking to them since then.

[...] What is written above was reported on May 16, 2007, only thirteen days after the disappearance of Madeleine English to the police, the couple SG and KG It was an important and relevant information for research.. However, nothing was sent to the Portuguese police.

[...] I believe that only after my departure of research, perhaps in late October 2007, is that the testimony of KG has been referred to the Portuguese police. With legitimacy question is: which is why the British police Tuesday, apparently, hidden evidence that during six months? When they heard that David Payne, organizer of the trip to Majorca, and who were reported abnormal behaviour in dealing with children, was the same which organised the trip to Portugal, which was part of the group of the holiday village of Luz where Madeleine was part, that was the first friend of the family to be seen next to Kate McCann after the disappearance of the child (as we shall see below) and that the date of the testimony was still in Portugal and may be confronted with these statements?

"[...] In the first days of September, just days before the constitution and accused the couple McCann, the Superintendent Stuart Prior, goes to the Portimão. It brings with it a preliminary report [of the forensic laboratory in Birmingham], coming discuss the status of the investigation with us. In a meeting with the investigating team Portuguese and English, in our office, Stuart shows up disappointed with the results of the examinations. It starts here the saga of the reports of the FSS. We read the report and we do not agree with the disappointment of Stuart. They are concerned the traces collected blood on the floor, behind the couch of the apartment 5A, as well as traces of blood recovered boot of the car used by McCann. We talk about blood traces (blood) because the dog is trained CSI only to detect that body fluid. The reports to support decision-making, prepared by specialists Mark Harrison and Martin Grime, are clear: the dog CSI was used to locate human blood. The Low Copy Number, technique used to determine the DNA of those samples, does not determine that body fluid comes from the DNA. In the first case, you can read that which obtained a result of incomplete DNA, for little information in the sample, giving indications of low-level DNA from more than one person . But all components of DNA confirmed coincide with the corresponding components of the DNA profile of Madeleine!

The second case, after an explanation of the components of the DNA profile of Madeleine, concluding that it is represented by 19 alleles, it appears that 15 are present in the sample examined. In other words, there are 4 components to have a 100% conclusive result. According to the experts that laboratory, those 15 have not arrived to finish with a great degree of certainty, that this was the DNA profile of Madeleine, because the Low Copy Number 37 components found in the sample. There 37 components because at least three individuals contributed to this result. Despite having been found 15 components of the DNA profile of Madeleine, the result was considered complex.

But it turned around here this first preliminary report. In it, the scientist has been careful to explain that abnormal in many of the profiles of the experts of the laboratory are present elements of the DNA profile of Madeleine. In other words, much of the DNA profile of any one person can be constructed by three donors. The first two issues have arisen. The first: to that served in terms of criminal evidence, a profile of DNA, if it can be a combination of three or more donors.

Another question was simple: why is that the DNA profile of those three donors contributed to 15 components of the DNA profile of Madeleine and not by any other person, for example, of the scientist who carried out the examination? But the surprises of the preliminary reports would not be here. [...]

WHAT THE BOOK ON BEHALF OF EX-POLICE

Gonçalo Amaral decided to write the book to recover its freedom of expression. Away from research by Alípio Ribeiro, the former coordinator of PJ of Portimão believe Madeleine McCann died in the apartment of the Ocean Club on the night of May 3, 2007. And also believes that parents simulated the abduction and hid the corpse of her daughter, after a tragic accident inside the apartment.

WAR OF DIRECTORS

The national director of PJ, Almeida Rodrigues, said yesterday that his predecessor, Alípio Ribeiro, "nãos if notabilizou for being a good researcher He said once the criticism made by Alípio the closing of the case Maddie, considering it was "too early for most."

Tomorrow: Get to know some more hot spots of the book which tells another version of the investigation and that MCCann did not want to see published. Leia a entrevista com o autor. Read the interview with the author.
(Een betere vertaling staat op de site van Joana Morais: "Madeleine died in the apartment" - Correio da Manhã)
Kennelijk zijn de eerdere artikelen in Correio da Manhã over David Payne inderdaad afkomstig van Amaral...
19 juli English Ignored Complaint for Paedophilia Against One of the McCanns Friends
19 juli Payne suspected of paedophilia

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  woensdag 23 juli 2008 @ 11:27:56 #46
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Goedemiddag, nou ja bijna dan.

Ik denk Suko dat als Amaral dit niet kan bewijzen hij ongelofelijk in de knoei zit, ik hoop echt dat hij dit kan hard maken.
Joana is echt goed bezig met die mooie rijtjes en vertalingen, het zaakje stinkt echt, dit is geen oplossing maar een overgave van de PJ, ik denk dat men zich heeft gerealiseerd dat de ge-eikte paden volgen geen zin heeft want team McCann heeft alles compleet dichtgetimmerd.

En dan dit:

http://www.yorkshirepost.(...)t-leaked-.4314557.jp
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Madeleine police report leaked
Portuguese detectives made Madeleine McCann's parents suspects on the "slightest chance" they could have been involved in her disappearance, a leaked report has revealed.


An official 57-page summary of the huge final dossier assembled by the Policia Judiciaria (PJ) – Portugal's CID – was apparently posted online.

The leak came as Gerry and Kate McCann, both 40, of Rothley, Leicestershire, considered taking legal action against the Portuguese authorities after they had their suspect status formally lifted on Monday.

The police report, dated June 20, 2008 and written by an Algarve-based PJ inspector, was placed on Portuguese newspaper Expresso's website yesterday.

Detectives named the McCanns as "arguidos", or formal suspects, last September in the light of sniffer dog searches and initial DNA test results, according to the document. This was because inquiries had flagged up the "slightest chance of their involvement with a possible corpse" in their holiday flat and hire car, it said.

The leaked report said a "cadaver dog", trained to sniff out dead bodies, picked up a scent in the McCanns' apartment and on clothes belonging to Mrs McCann and Madeleine.

The animal also apparently scented death on the key of the Renault Scenic hire car rented by the McCanns 24 days after the little girl went missing.

Preliminary forensic analysis on samples recovered from the hire car raised the possibility of a match with Madeleine's DNA profile, the report said.

But final DNA test results could not match the material to any particular person – or even establish whether it was blood or another type of body fluid.

Madeleine was nearly four when she vanished from the flat in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on May 3 last year as her parents dined with friends nearby.

The leaked PJ report details the numerous leads Portuguese detectives pursued fruitlessly – including psychic visions and thousands of reported sightings of Madeleine from as far away as Indonesia and Singapore.

The report also said extensive investigations found no evidence at all linking Praia da Luz resident Robert Murat, 34, the first arguido in the case, to Madeleine's disappearance.

The Anglo-Portuguese property consultant also had his suspect status lifted on Monday.

The document concludes that despite all detectives' efforts it was not possible to reach a "concrete and objective" conclusion about the truth of what happened to Madeleine that night.

McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell criticised the apparent leaking of the report.

He said: "As always we simply will not comment on anything that appears to be from the usual anonymous sources.

"If any elements of the police report are being placed online that would not only be wrong, you have to ask yourself who is behind it and why.

"Gerry and Kate's lawyers in Portugal will be applying formally for access to the complete file and they will be analysing everything in it in their own time without making elements public at this stage."

The office of Portuguese attorney-general Fernando Jose Pinto Monteiro announced on Monday that the Madeleine case was being shelved because there was no evidence the three suspects had committed any crimes.

Alipio Ribeiro, the PJ's national director until May, criticised this decision and said rushing to close an inquiry could be "harmful".
Goh, tjonge jonge, uit wiens pen zou dit gekomen zijn?
Ik denk dat ze weer een deal gaan sluiten en alle gegevens zonder slag of stoot in hun schoot geworpen krijgen, vervolgens kan die rechter die vriendin is van Kate alle stukken die mogelijk kwaad kunnen onder de 'bescherming' van Madeleine nav haar ward of court status gooien en niemand krijgt er ooit iets van te zien.
Amaral zal wel een boete krijgen en het boek verboden worden, presto, je kinderen alleen achterlaten in een hotel, lekker gaan feesten en er 1 kwijtraken heeft geen gevolgen als je maar rijk en invloedrijk genoeg bent.......
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Op woensdag 23 juli 2008 11:27 schreef kahaarin het volgende:
Goedemiddag, nou ja bijna dan.

Ik denk Suko dat als Amaral dit niet kan bewijzen hij ongelofelijk in de knoei zit, ik hoop echt dat hij dit kan hard maken.
Joana is echt goed bezig met die mooie rijtjes en vertalingen, het zaakje stinkt echt, dit is geen oplossing maar een overgave van de PJ, ik denk dat men zich heeft gerealiseerd dat de ge-eikte paden volgen geen zin heeft want team McCann heeft alles compleet dichtgetimmerd.

En dan dit:

http://www.yorkshirepost.(...)t-leaked-.4314557.jp
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Goh, tjonge jonge, uit wiens pen zou dit gekomen zijn?
Ik denk dat ze weer een deal gaan sluiten en alle gegevens zonder slag of stoot in hun schoot geworpen krijgen, vervolgens kan die rechter die vriendin is van Kate alle stukken die mogelijk kwaad kunnen onder de 'bescherming' van Madeleine nav haar ward of court status gooien en niemand krijgt er ooit iets van te zien.
Amaral zal wel een boete krijgen en het boek verboden worden, presto, je kinderen alleen achterlaten in een hotel, lekker gaan feesten en er 1 kwijtraken heeft geen gevolgen als je maar rijk en invloedrijk genoeg bent.......
Hajo Kahaarin. Nou ja, Amaral was er voor een groot gedeelte zelf bij (ook vanaf het begin) en heeft nog steeds veel steun en mogelijk daarom ook veel info van oud-collega's. En die boete en misschien meer eventueel kan hem geen moer schelen... Het algehele gevoel is wel dat er nog veel onder het karpet ligt, wij het klootjesvolk, weten vermoedelijk nog niet een 1/4... Wat wél duidelijk is dat er niet of onvoldoende bewijs is tegen de McCanns maar dat ze ook niet zijn gecleared, zeker niet! Op de site van Joana Morais staat nog een en ander van en over Amaral: “The Attorney General does not say that they are innocent”

Ook interessant, uit het eindrapport:
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2 – Area of the backyard, close to the apartment 5A:
- cadaver odour dog:
* in a flowerbed, commented by the dog handler the lightness of the scent detected;

3 – Apartments where the rest of the elements of the group stayed
* NOTHING was detected by any of the dogs;

4 – House of the McCanns at the date of the inspection [second apartment]
* NOTHING at the house was detected by any of the dogs;

5 - In the area of Vila da Luz
* NOTHING was detected by any of the dogs;

6 – In the clothes and belongings of the Family MCCANN
- cadaver odour dog:
* in two pieces of clothing belonging to KATE HEALY
* in a piece of clothing of the minor MADELEINE
* in the plush toy, possibly belonging to MADELEINE (it was detected cadaver odour, when the plush was inside the residence – at the date occupied by the family)

7 – In the vehicle used by the MCCANN family
- cadaver odour dog:
* signalled the key of the vehicle;
- blood dog:
* signalled the key of the vehicle;
* signalled the interior of the vehicle’s boot;

8 – In the vehicle used by a friend of the family, who stayed in the same resort, matching some of the holiday days.
Blijft toch vreemd dat alleen kleren van Kate en Madeleine, bloemperk, auto, apartement, Cuddle Cat de honden aansloegen, maar in de apartementen van de vrienden waaronder dokters er niets is aangetroffen, Correio da Manhã, uit een eerdere post: "Kate McCann didn’t negate the fact that her two pieces of clothes and the stuffed animal had been signaled by the English dogs trained to find cadaver odor and justified it by her profession. Madeleine’s mother alleged that as a doctor at the Leicester health center, she was present at six deaths directly before she came to Portugal on holiday, giving the same excuse for Madeleine’s stuffed animal, that was with her in the months after her daughter disappeared." Ach ja, zij werkte 1 1/2 dag als huisarts en dan heb je vlak daarvoor met 6 doden te maken...Ze moeten maar eens dat Leicester health center onderzoeken...

Trouwens, die Cuddle Cat zou Madeleine in Praia da Luz voor haar verjaardig pas krijgen, deze zou zijn gekocht op het vliegveld, en waarom moet ze dat beest 5 keer wassen, alleen omdat het wat lotion en zand bevatte? B*ll! Anyway, ook al krijgen zij wel het volledige rapport en de rest van de wereld niet, dan nog zullen ze lastige vragen moeten beantwoorden ook al zeggen ze nu dat niet te doen omdat ze zelf met het onderzoek bezig zijn.... En hier gelooff ik dus niks van: British police failed to stop DNA evidence in McCann case from being made public, in de Daily Mail Wel degelijk zoals gezegd is niet alles publiek gemaakt. En dat boek van Amaral wordt vast niet in Portugal verboden, bovendien krijgen wij lezers er stukjes van te zien in de Correio da Manhã, joepie...

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En toch is het raar he, de McCanns laten de wereld tot op de dag van vandaag weten dat Madeleine nog leeft zolang het tegendeel niet is bewezen: "They say they will continue to believe their daughter is alive until given firm evidence to the contrary, and their lawyers are now scrutinising Mr Amaral’s book." Ik bedoel, áls je in 'hun verhaal meegaat' dan bestaat het toch niet dat ze dan nog in Rothley zitten te lanterfanten en tussendoor nog vakantie etc etc...en dan nog steeds zeggen, nu ze geen formeel verdachten zijn: "Answering questions from journalists, her husband refused to rule out either going back to Portugal or taking legal action against the Portuguese authorities. Mr McCann said: "We don’t have any immediate plans to return to Portugal at the moment. "Obviously we want to digest the statement and also to get access to the files to see what can still be done." He said any legal action would be "secondary" to finding their daughter." Gisteren in de Liverpool Daily Post

Neuh, niet onmiddelijk plannen naar Portugal af te reizen, Madeleine kan nog wel eventjes wachten...

En ze gaan inderdaad (mogelijk) stappen ondernemen tegen Amaral: "Kate and Gerry McCann were consulting lawyers today after the publication of extracts from a book by a former senior Portuguese detective containing allegations against them. Goncalo Amaral, former head of the investigation into the disappearance of the couple’s daughter Madeleine, affirms that the young girl died in her family’s holiday flat. His book, entitled The Truth Of The Lie, will be published tomorrow but excerpts were printed in the Portuguese paper Correio da Manha today." Liverpool Echo

Binnen 20 dagen hebben ze overigens de mogelijkheid te protesteren qua eindrapport nu de zaak is gedropped: "The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said the couple's lawyers would be making an immediate application for full access to the police files so they could follow up any new leads. They have 20 days to appeal the decision to drop the case, although this is unlikely to happen. After that period limited access will be made available to other interested parties." telegraph

Nou ja, ze gaan tegen iedereen stappen ondernemen, de rest van de wereld of zo... ze zijn 'een beetje gestoord' lijkt wel. Gezien de gevonden sporen (alhoewel inconclusive) is de mogelijkheid van wandered off van Madeleine uitgesloten. Voor ontvoering zijn er helemaal geen bewijzen gevonden, ook uitgesloten. Wát blijft er dan over....IMO laat dat zich raden. Vergeet niet, dokters weten wat de doen met sporen, ook weten ze dat je de crime-scène in tact moet laten. En dat laatste is zeker niet gebeurd, vrienden (waaronder ook dokters) en zo'n beetje het halve resort is over de vloer geweest alvorens de politie arriveerde, die is pas na 40 min pas gealarmeerd.

Joana Morais (en op het 3arguidoforum) post ook een paar quotes uit het boek van Amaral:
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“The Truth of the Lie”: Release of Gonçalo Amaral’s Book on the Maddie Case with Hot Revelations

The book “The truth of the Lie" , which promises controversial revelations on the Maddie case, is launched tomorrow. The SIC reveals today the first excerpts. The work has the signature of the man who directed great part of the investigations but ended up being removed. The lawyer of the couple McCann, Rogério Alves, said to the SIC that he does not comment fiction.

Gonçalo Amaral says that he wants “to put back the good name that was vilified in the public domain" without the Judicial Police allowing his own defence.

In the first pages of the work, the author highlights since then the unusual treatment given to the couple McCann, which in the words of the inspector were treated with "tweezers".

Much was spoken also about the attitudes of Gerry and Kate McCann and Gonçalo Amaral reports several situations in which he found the coldness of the couple strange facing the tension of the investigations.

In one of the situations the inspector speaks about the mother of the child, Kate, who before the possibility to find the daughter appears bothered with the speed reached by the car of the police. [This was after a new information of a possible sighting of Madeleine was given to the police, the mother instead of being anxious looked annoyed with the entire situation]

In another case it was the father who aroused the attention of the inspectors: in the middle of a negotiation, with a possible kidnapper, the doctor “was sucking casually one lollipop while reading banalities in sites of the Internet and talking about rugby and football with one of the English police officers.”

Gonçalo Amaral believes that : "Madeleine died in the apartment 5A of the Ocean Clube, on the 3rd of May of 2007, but he does not discard the hypothesis of having been accidental."

Contacted by SIC, Rogério Alves, he refused to comment on the book by Gonçalo Amaral. “While lawyer of the family McCann, I only comment reality, I do not comment fiction", said the lawyer.

Excerpts of the book “The Truth of the Lie"

P. 11
“This book appears out of the necessity that I felt of putting back my good name that was vilified in the public domain without the PJ has allowing me to stand up for myself ”.

P. 19
“The mistake was that we treated the couple 'with tweezers'. They were treated with privileges. It is that, that is not normal”.

P. 26
“It seems that the Judiciary Police is a ‘stepmother’ [Portuguese expression, meaning the PJ as an institution was never good to its officers] with its servants, it never knew how to defend them ”.

P. 38
“It was pertinent to know if Madeleine was the biological daughter of the couple McCann, the information requested does not arrive, but the English ambassador is already arriving. It is not normal this preoccupation of the English diplomacy ”.

P. 48
“A hand print was found in the balcony window at the rear [of the apartment]. It was corresponding to one of the police elements ”. (protocol of proceedings is lacking)

(Joana legt uit: "means that the police did not get the concept of a scene of crime, they didn't use the regular procedures, like gloves, etc... which are generally used in a murder scene - no wonder anyway- the kidnap theory was the theory pushed forward even before the police arrival. It was the former British Ambassador who called the former director of the PJ pressuring the theory of abduction - that was the obliging hypothesis until the PJ Inspector coordinating the case found that it was impossible to have had occurred a kidnapping."

P. 54
Sightings:
“Kate appears bored because of having being obliged to return and bothered with the speed reached by the police car We found strange that she didn’t show signs of hope with the possibility of the girl being recovered ”.

P. 67
“The PJ should have had persons to analyse all the news, being preoccupied by what the parents and friends would say to the public opinion. What did not happen ”.

P. 68
“It is not usual that common citizens, to whom a daughter just had disappeared, nominate press advisers”

P. 71
“The English service secret already had, after the facts, the couple and the group of friends under surveillance. If that was right such an information was never accessed by the Portuguese police”

P. 81
“The medical registries (of Madeleine) requested with insistence were not given to us, due to great difficulties raised in England”.

P. 92
Attempt of extortion
"Gerry McCann was sucking casually one lollipop while he was reading banalities in sites of the Internet and was talking about rugby and football with one of the English police officers.”

Sentence of the English police officers “Do not forget that he starts cutting people in half shortly afterwards of the breakfast”.

(Joana legt uit: "as a surgeon he cuts people - it's a way of trying to explain is coldness and apathy and uninterest in the situation of extortion that was happening. a parent would not be doing this but we are talking about people who jogged and laughed, and slept all night without trouble.)

P. 165
“There were signs of death in the apartment. It was concluded that that cadaver odour could only came from Madeleine McCann”.

P. 168
“The toy had cadaver odour”

P. 214
Conclusions
“Madeleine died in the apartment 5 A on the 3rd of May of 2007
A simulation of kidnapping took place
Kate and Gerry are suspected of corpse's occultation [hiding the cadaver]
The death might have happened as a result of an accident
There are signs of negligence in the safe keeping and security of the children”

Source:SIC
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[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door Suko op 23-07-2008 20:35:03 (uitleg van Joana toegevoegd) ]
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En ook de telegraph komt met de aanklacht wegens het boek van Amaral: "The book reveals intimate details about the life of the couple in the days after their daughter's disappearance. Clarence Mitchell, the family's spokesman, said: "People should bear in mind that Amaral is a discredited former police officer who was removed from the case for criticising Leicestershire police. "His own Attorney General ... on Monday, made it very clear there is absolutely no proof that any criminal offence was committed by Kate or Gerry."

He accused the detective of shamelessly attempting to cash in on Madeleine's plight. "Amaral is seeking to make money out of Madeleine's situation and is seeking publicity – it's quite disgusting," he said admitting that legal advice had been taken. "The libel lawyers who are representing Kate and Gerry and their friends are assessing every word of this book very closely, and they will not hesitate from taking legal action against Amaral if any passage requires it."

Maar voor de rest zijn ze niet vies van de eventuele winst die Amaral zal maken, ondanks dat ze hem betichten van laster, geld stinkt niet, want wat zei onze brave borst eerder: "Mr Mitchell said: “It’s a great shame that Mr Amaral apparently feels the need to make money out of Madeleine’s disappearance. “We hope that any profits he makes from this book will go to the fund to find their daughter, but we are not optimistic." The Press and Journal

Waarbij even wordt vergeten dat ook is bewezen dat er geen ontvoering heeft kunnen plaatsvinden, daar heb ik ze nog niet over gehoord... alleen dat er geen onomstotelijk bewijs is of any criminal offence wordt opgepakt. Als Madeleine nog leeft waar is ze dan wel Gerry & Kate McCann, Tapas 7 en Clarence Mitchell???


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  donderdag 24 juli 2008 @ 11:46:59 #50
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You are my sunshine......
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Op woensdag 23 juli 2008 23:17 schreef Suko het volgende:
En ook de telegraph komt met de aanklacht wegens het boek van Amaral: "The book reveals intimate details about the life of the couple in the days after their daughter's disappearance. Clarence Mitchell, the family's spokesman, said: "People should bear in mind that Amaral is a discredited former police officer who was removed from the case for criticising Leicestershire police. "His own Attorney General ... on Monday, made it very clear there is absolutely no proof that any criminal offence was committed by Kate or Gerry."
Hey goedemorgen allemaal!

Wat ik begrepen heb is er geen afdoende bewijs om de McCanns aan te klagen maar zijn er wel degelijk compromiterende zaken boven komen drijven, een subtiel verschil misschien.....
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He accused the detective of shamelessly attempting to cash in on Madeleine's plight. "Amaral is seeking to make money out of Madeleine's situation and is seeking publicity – it's quite disgusting," he said admitting that legal advice had been taken. "The libel lawyers who are representing Kate and Gerry and their friends are assessing every word of this book very closely, and they will not hesitate from taking legal action against Amaral if any passage requires it."
Ik vermoed dat ze zich meer druk maken over het beeld dat er door hetboek kan ontstaan en aan alle kanten zullen proberen om hoe dan ook Amaral in diskrediet te brengen.
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Maar voor de rest zijn ze niet vies van de eventuele winst die Amaral zal maken, ondanks dat ze hem betichten van laster, geld stinkt niet, want wat zei onze brave borst eerder: "Mr Mitchell said: “It’s a great shame that Mr Amaral apparently feels the need to make money out of Madeleine’s disappearance. “We hope that any profits he makes from this book will go to the fund to find their daughter, but we are not optimistic." The Press and Journal
Waarom zou hij geld doneren? De zaak heeft hem z'n baan gekost en zijn reputatie is vernield, net wat hij zegt, als hij gewoon opschrijft wat hij heeft meegemaakt kunnen ze hem imho weinig maken.
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Waarbij even wordt vergeten dat ook is bewezen dat er geen ontvoering heeft kunnen plaatsvinden, daar heb ik ze nog niet over gehoord... alleen dat er geen onomstotelijk bewijs is of any criminal offence wordt opgepakt. Als Madeleine nog leeft waar is ze dan wel Gerry & Kate McCann, Tapas 7 en Clarence Mitchell???
Inderdaad, geen ontvoering volgens de PJ, geen schuld volgens de McCanns, hoe en wat dan? Iemand spreekt er niet de waarheid. Ik vind het nu ineens spannend worden, dat terwijl de zaak op de plank ligt.....
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