Nee pjee, zo werkt het niet... Butterfly effect is niet een vervangende situatie, het is een beinvloeding van de situatie... 'Overvaller zag jouw zoontje, en besloot dat het leven te mooi was om een zaak te overvallen' DAT is effect....quote:Op maandag 25 april 2005 19:42 schreef nokwanda het volgende:
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Heel af en toe zie je het eefect onmiddelijk.
Een paar jaar geleden wilde ik mijn zoon van toen 9 jaar naar de buurtwinkel sturen om eieren te kopen. Op het laatste moment besloot ik om zelf te gaan.
Om binnen te komen moet je achterlangs de kassa door lopen. Nadat ik twee passen voorbij de kassa had gezet klonk er een knal. Ik dacht: een pistoolschot en schoot naar de achterkant van de winkel, een oudere dame meevoerend. Wij konden ons in het magazijn verbergen terwijl bij de kassa het schieten doorging.
Het resultaat van mijn beslissing om zelf de eieren te gaan halen was dus duidelijk. Mijn kind zou absoluut de verkeerde kant, de winkel uit, zijn gelopen en dat zou een mogelijke fatale fout kunnen zijn geweest.
Ik ben ook overtuigd dat tijdreizen mogelijk is. Maar niet iedereen gelooft dat.quote:Op maandag 25 april 2005 20:35 schreef Cracka-ass het volgende:
Hot damn, dit is wel een interessant topic. Ik geloof er namelijk heilig in dat reizen in de tijd mogelijk zou moeten zijn. Simpelweg omdat we met het gegeven tijd te maken hebben. Tot nu toe kunnen we alles beïnvloeden behalve de tijd. (nog niet bewezen in ieder geval)
(verkapt tvp'tje)
bij feyenoord ajax kan ik me dat voorstellen jaquote:Op maandag 25 april 2005 19:24 schreef splendor het volgende:
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Weet iemand hoe ver Butterfly effect/chaos theory echt gaat?
ik denk dat een andere sportuitslag zoveel invloed heeft op zoveel mensen dat er een redelijke kans bestaat dat de toekomst helemaal anders loopt.
Lijkt me niet dat ze iedere pipo zomaar laten tijdreizen.....quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 02:35 schreef Tramhalte het volgende:
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bij feyenoord ajax kan ik me dat voorstellen ja
maar als tijdreizen mogelijk was er toch allang iemand uit de toekomst hierheen gekomen om dat geintje uit back to the future 2 uit te halen met dat sportboekje met uitslagen.
Kijk eens naar de film Sliding Doors; heeft geen ruk te maken met tijdreizen, maar is wel een leuke filmquote:Op maandag 25 april 2005 19:24 schreef splendor het volgende:
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Weet iemand hoe ver Butterfly effect/chaos theory echt gaat? Ik denk zelf dat het zo erg is dat wanneer ik besluit om niet naar de winkel te gaan die dag, maar een dag later te gaan, dat dat een redelijke kans heeft om de toekomst op wereld niveau te bepalen. Dit is heel erg moeilijk te berekenen, ook omdat je nooit kunt testen wat er eigenlijk zou zijn gebeurt als ik een andere keuze had gemaakt.
Maar om ontopic te blijven, ik denk dat een andere sportuitslag zoveel invloed heeft op zoveel mensen dat er een redelijke kans bestaat dat de toekomst helemaal anders loopt.
Je moet het zo zien dat een gebeurtenis bepaald kan worden door miljoenen 'omstandigheden'..quote:Op maandag 25 april 2005 19:24 schreef splendor het volgende:
Weet iemand hoe ver Butterfly effect/chaos theory echt gaat? Ik denk zelf dat het zo erg is dat wanneer ik besluit om niet naar de winkel te gaan die dag, maar een dag later te gaan, dat dat een redelijke kans heeft om de toekomst op wereld niveau te bepalen. Dit is heel erg moeilijk te berekenen, ook omdat je nooit kunt testen wat er eigenlijk zou zijn gebeurt als ik een andere keuze had gemaakt.
Maar om ontopic te blijven, ik denk dat een andere sportuitslag zoveel invloed heeft op zoveel mensen dat er een redelijke kans bestaat dat de toekomst helemaal anders loopt.
(die uitspraak noemt een 'meeuw', schijnbaar vond men de definitie van een vlinder wat 'poetischer', bovendien heeft de 'lorenz-curve' wel wat weg van een vlinder-vormquote:Lorenz: One meteorologist remarked that if the theory were correct, one flap of a seagull's wings would be enough to alter the course of the weather forever.
Is toch gebeurd ? Ze hebben in 2003 iemand in de US opgepakt die in 2 weken tijd van 800 dollar naar 350.000.000 dollar maaktequote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 02:35 schreef Tramhalte het volgende:
maar als tijdreizen mogelijk was er toch allang iemand uit de toekomst hierheen gekomen om dat geintje uit back to the future 2 uit te halen met dat sportboekje met uitslagen.
Dat was toch al een hoax gebleken?quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 09:38 schreef UncleScorp het volgende:
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Is toch gebeurd ? Ze hebben in 2003 iemand in de US opgepakt die in 2 weken tijd van 800 dollar naar 350.000.000 dollar maakte
http://www.eastes.net/content/TimeTravellerBusted.asp
Ja, maar zo veel mensen 'willen' dat verhaal geloven,quote:
Ik zou het ook wel willen geloven.quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 09:50 schreef RM-rf het volgende:
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Ja, maar zo veel mensen 'willen' dat verhaal geloven,
Al is de waarheid nóg zo snel, als de mensen liever de leugen willen geloven, blijft de waarheid doodleuk achter de leugen aanhobbelen ..
ik heb ze ooit eens achter elkaar gezet op chronologische volgorde in een documentje. Ben het documentje alleen kwijtquote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 12:20 schreef Neurotica het volgende:
heeft iemand nog de "voospelling van Titor" etjes gesorteerd kunnen vinden???
Ik kan ze niet netjes in 1 overzicht vinden in elk geval
nét niet zeg maar.quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 12:59 schreef DionysuZ het volgende:
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ik heb ze ooit eens achter elkaar gezet op chronologische volgorde in een documentje. Ben het documentje alleen kwijtkan alleen nog een ~ohn_titor.tmp vinden
Zijn voorspellingen zijn netjes chronologisch te vinden op www.johntitor.comquote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 12:20 schreef Neurotica het volgende:
heeft iemand nog de "voospelling van Titor" etjes gesorteerd kunnen vinden???
Ik kan ze niet netjes in 1 overzicht vinden in elk geval
2005 gaat iets gebeuren dus.quote:Tell me anything like that and I will believe you forever.
(28) It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005.
Ontzettend sterke uitspraken. En dan te bedenken dat dit VOOR 9/11 was gezegd. Hoeveel rechten hebben de Amerikanen al ingeleverd voor die actie alleen al?quote:(35) While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the "Universal Law" you subscribe to?
(36) Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.
Naar waar zou je willen gaan Nokwanda ?quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 12:26 schreef nokwanda het volgende:
Ik zou het ook wel willen geloven.
Maar of dit nou een hoax is of dat Titor nou een hoax is doet er niet zo heel veel toe.
Ik wil gewoon geloven in het idee van de mogelijkheid van reizen in de tijd. Naar toekomst en verleden. Misschien is er ergens een heel slim iemand die dat ook blijft hopen en die de mogelijkheid heeft om dat te realiseren. Hoop doet leven, he.
verlanglijstje volgt later vandaagquote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 15:21 schreef UncleScorp het volgende:
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Naar waar zou je willen gaan Nokwanda ?
De Westerse Stabiliteit gaat eraan.quote:How and why do the Arabs Jews become entangled in the civil war of the U.S.A?
(69) They are not directly involved but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.
Zou het te maken hebben met de Europese Grondwet?quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 15:32 schreef Refragmental het volgende:
Aha, heb gevonden wat er in 2005 zou gaan gebeuren.
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De Westerse Stabiliteit gaat eraan.
2005 dus inderdaadquote:There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.
quote:I tried to consolidate your questions into a basic list. I hope this helps.
1. Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.
2. Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.
3. Learn basic sanitation and water purification.
4. Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.
5. Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.
6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.
7. Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.
8. Eat less.
9. Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.
10. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.
Okay.... Lekker dan. En waar kunnen we heen vluchten.quote:
Kan die site niet openen.quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 14:58 schreef Refragmental het volgende:
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Zijn voorspellingen zijn netjes chronologisch te vinden op www.johntitor.com
Bovenaan in de balk, 3e knop links naast "Home" en "Posts by date", genaamd "Predictions".
Wil je AL zijn officiele posts vinden, dan moet je op "Posts by date" klikken.
quote:November 2000
(HOST: Although John said he would not make predictions or tell us what happens in the future, he did make enough comments that leave a trail of what might be called predictions. The following section contains all of the comments John made about the future, the technology of time travel and cryptic comments that seemed out of context.
The web sites attached are based on my own searches. In most cases, I looked up the term John mentions and then searched under the results with the word "time travel" or any other phrase he mentioned. I hope to add the rest of his posts by month in the coming weeks.)
November 02, 2000 01:16
(1) I was just about to give up hope on anyone knowing who Tipler or Kerr was on this worldline.
(2) The basics for time travel start at CERN in about a year and end in 2034 with the first "time machine" built by GE.
(3) I saw the posting requesting the basic systems for a gravity distortion system that will allow time travel. Here they are:
1. Magnetic housing units for dual microsignularities.
2. Electron injection manifold to alter mass and gravity of microsingularities.
3. Cooling and x-ray venting system
4. Gravity sensors (VGL system)
5. Main clocks (4 cesium units)
6. Main computer units (3)
(4) A world war in 2015 killed nearly three billion people.
(5) I am aware that research is being done on faster units with more accurate clocks. I imagine that they will be able to go back farther with a higher degree of divergence confidence.
Unfortunately, there were not very many suitable vehicles around in 2036 and I sold the car when I arrived in 2000.
(HOST: This isn't a prediction but it occurred to me that someone is driving around in a car that is not from this time.)
(6) No, the ice caps are not melting any faster than they are now.
(7) I suppose we could agree that no particular era in history is famous for its development of humanity but just once I would like to hear questions like, "What is family life like in the future? How does society deal with poverty? Is AIDS, abortion and drug use still a problem?"
(8) The mass and gravitational field of a microsingularity can then be manipulated by "injecting" electrons onto its surface.
(9) By rotating two electric microsigularities at high speed, it is possible to create and modify a local gravity sinusoid that replicates the affects of a Kerr black hole.
(10) The computer system is connected to the unit through an electrical bus. There are actually three computers linked together that take the same signals from the gravity sensors and clocks. They use a Borda error correcting protocol that checks the integrity of the data and trips the VGL system.
(11) The C206 uses 6 cesium clocks but they use an optical system to check the oscillation frequency. This makes the worldline divergence confidence much higher.
(12) People raise a great deal of their own food and do more "farm" work. Yes, compared to now, we do work long hours. After the war, my father made a living selling oranges up and down the West coast of Florida. My closest friend raises horses and another works for a company that maintains "wireless" Internet nodes.
(13) Yes, there is a post office.
(14) The Internet is still alive and well in the future. People spend more time talking because life is more centered on the community.
(15) When I'm with my parents, I live in a community made up of "tree houses" on a large river in Florida. The river floods sometimes and we have access to the Gulf. Most of our neighbors make a living off the sea or in moving cargo by boat.
(16) There is a civil war in the United States that starts in 2005. That conflict flares up and down for 10 years. In 2015, Russia launches a nuclear strike against the major cities in the United States (which is the "other side" of the civil war from my perspective), China and Europe. The United States counter attacks. The US cities are destroyed along with the AFE (American Federal Empire)...thus we (in the country) won. The European Union and China were also destroyed. Russia is now our largest trading partner and the Capitol of the US was moved to Omaha Nebraska.
(17) Yes, genetic engineering is used but it's like any other technology. It can be good and bad. One thing we did not do was create more hybrid seeds. What are people thinking?
What future technologies can we look forward to?
(18) Hydrogen fuel cells and more efficient solar cells are big deals. Computer technology and software get MUCH better.
(19) After the war, early new communities gathered around the current Universities. That's where the libraries were. I went to school at Fort UF, which is now called the University of Florida. Not too much is different except the military is large part of people's life and we spend a great deal of time in the fields and farms at the "University" or Fort.
(20) Yes, we have cameras. More digital. Film is used like painting is today. No hologram camera though.
(21) Yes we have phones but the service is through the web. Most power generation is localized.
(22) Yes, solar is big. There is thought that a singularity generator could also be used but most people are against it.
(23) Hats are more common in the future and flashy colors are less common. Dress is much more functional and we "dress up" whenever we get a chance.
(24) Women like to wear their hair longer and men have it much shorter. Both sexes shave it all off when they're in active military service.
(25) Far less medical treatment in the future even though It's more advanced. People die when they now its time to die. No lasers. Genetic medicine and cloning organs are the obvious new techs in the future.
What type of system is used to maintain the singularity?
(26) I'm not a physicist so I cannot answer that to your level of sophistication. The singularities are held in an enclosed magnetic field.
If you're telling the truth, the last thing you should be doing is talking about the war and the government.
(27) Have you considered that your society might be better off if half of you were dead?
Tell me anything like that and I will believe you forever.
(28) It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005.
Why did you go to 1975?
(29) We need they system to "debug" various legacy computer programs in 2036. UNIX has a problem in 2038.
(30) It is thought that being close to a gravitational field has a biological effect on all matter including cells. The effect is to slow the movement of electrons in the orbits of their nucleus, which slows the mechanical and biological functions of the observer close to the gravity. Thus the passing of time is a local phenomenon depending on how close you are to a gravitational source.
This is one example of a theory involving "time shells" progressing in size and intensity around a gravitational point from all matter. The more massive the object, the larger and more influential the time shells around it (like an onion). Another offshoot of this theory is that kinetic energy is actually the conversion of stored energy in the atom as it passes through time shells in a gravitational field.
If telling us about your time machine won't change anything, what would happen if someone built one based on your information?
(31) What you do on your worldline is your own business. I can't think of any better way to start a war than for someone to figure out how to make a time machine. Go for it.
(32) For a change, I have a question for all of you. I want you to think very hard. What major disaster was expected and prepared for in the last year and a half that never happened?
(HOST: It is generally agreed that John is referring to the Y2K bug.)
(33) We live in a world recovering from years of war, poison, destruction and hate. All of it, courtesy of the thinking and actions of people that live right now in the same world you do, worrying about which stocks to buy or whether or not a stranger is lying to them on the Internet.
(34) I know exactly where I was and every detail of the exact moment the first nuclear warheads began falling on Jacksonville.
(35) While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the "Universal Law" you subscribe to?
(36) Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. No one likes you in the future. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep. Perhaps you should be less concerned about me and more concerned about that.
(37) On my worldline, it is known that the 5100 series is capable of reading all the IBM code written before the widespread use of APL and Basic. Unfortunately, there are none left that anyone can find on my worldline.
(38) My worldline is not unified under a single government but I would say it is closer to a unified purpose. Isn't that what you want anyway?
(39) I have tried to tell people about CJD disease and it seems to be "catching on" in Europe.
Can you tell us the foods that are unsafe now? Is there anything we can do to prepare for the war you are describing?
(40) I tried to consolidate your questions into a basic list. I hope this helps.
1. Do not eat or use products from any animal that is fed and eats parts of its own dead.
2. Do not kiss or have intimate relations with anyone you do not know.
3. Learn basic sanitation and water purification.
4. Be comfortable around firearms. Learn to shoot and clean a gun.
5. Get a good first aid kit and learn to use it.
6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them.
7. Get a copy of the US Constitution and read it.
8. Eat less.
9. Get a bicycle and two sets of spare tires. Ride it 10 miles a week.
10. Consider what you would bring with you if you had to leave your home in 10 min. and never return.
What event started the war? Can it be stopped?
(41) The war is a result of faulty politics and desperation from Western leadership during the US civil war. Yes, I suppose you could stop it.
Are some areas of the United States safer than others?
(42) Take a close look at the county-by-county voting map from the last elections.
Were biological or chemical weapons used in the war? Were any weapons used that effected people's minds?
(43) Yes there were biological and chemical weapons used. No mind control weapons but there are new "non-lethal" weapon systems that turn out to be quite lethal.
Has cancer or AIDS been cured yet?
(44) Aids, no. Cancer, some progress.
What is the one thing you would want us to remember?
(45) Please, please wake up. Look at the signposts around you now.
December 2000
(HOST: Although John said he would not make predictions or tell us what happens in the future, he did make enough comments that leave a trail of what might be called predictions. The following section contains all of the comments John made about the future, the technology of time travel and cryptic comments that seemed out of context.
The web sites attached are based on my own searches. In most cases, I looked up the term John mentions and then searched under the results with the word "time travel" or any other phrase he mentioned. I hope to add the rest of his posts by month in the coming weeks.)
What is music like in 2036?
(46) However the days of mega-stars playing multiple track studio produced music and lip-synching on a huge stage are pretty much isolated to your time period.
(47) Like everything else, music is much less centralized. The general trend is away from "computer generated" music and more toward real people playing real instruments.
(48 Music is much more of a personal experience. More people know how to read music and play together in small groups.
What is the health care like in 2036?
(49) I would compare it to what you see in Western movies. We do have hospitals but there are more family doctors and house calls as compared to what you are used to.
(50) There is no real organized health care. If you get a serious disease, you die.
What is the entertainment industry like in 2036?
(51) Again, entertainment is less centralized. There are "movies" and "TV" but everything is distributed over the net and more people produce their own "shows".
Earlier you said something was wrong with the UNIX computer code on your worldline. What's wrong with it?
(52) I'm not exactly sure what the technical issue is but I believe some sort of UNIX system registry stops in 2038.
How far have computers and software progressed in 2036?
(53) I would say the biggest difference is in the reliability of the hardware and software. You can look forward to very stringent manufacturing parameters and programming discipline.
(54) I will tell you that processor speed and memory size take dramatic leaps forward.
Who won the Super Bowl in 2001?
(55) Besides, can you tell me if it rained in New York on June 4th 1932? You are from their future so should you know that?
(HOST: Although this isn't exactly a prediction, I thought I thought it was interesting that New York did indeed play in that year's Super Bowl.)
What type of money do you use in 2036?
(56) Its not very different than it is now. Yes, we have money and credit cards. However, like everything else, the monetary system is decentralized.
(57) Banking is based mostly around the community structure. There are no multinational banking or computerized economic systems. There are also no income taxes.
Is the GPS system still in use in 2036?
(58) Oh yes! In fact, the unit I have with me works here. I'm not sure why that surprises me. There are also a great many communications and Internet satellite systems.
Is there public transportation in 2036?
(59) A high-speed train system connects the larger cities. Roads are still used for cars and many people ride horses and bikes.
Do medical advances in 2036 have anything to do with genetics?
(60)I believe there is a great deal of progress in treating the cancer cells with modified viruses. So I guess the answer is yes.
The question involved details on natural disasters and temperatures in 2036.
(61) The average temperature worldwide is a bit cooler.
I think Russia is still very likely to attack the United States with nuclear weapons. It's hard to imagine being here to see it.
(62) Russia's enemy in the United States is not you, the average person. Russia's enemy is the United States government.
Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?
(63) Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency.
(64) This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election.
(65) The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense.
(66) Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack.
(67) The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction.
Does anything happen in the year 2012? I've heard stories about the world ending.
(68) Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. It is important that they be a surprise. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?
How and why do the Arabs Jews become entangled in the civil war of the U.S.A?
(69) They are not directly involved but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.
The Arab countries appear to have weapons of mass destruction. Do they use them against America?
(70) Not against America but they are used against each other.
December 30, 2000 10:28
There are numerous experiments going on at CERN. In order for them to make a black hole they would have to travel faster than light.
(71) I'm pretty sure they have a number of experiments going on at the same time at CERN. The one I'm referring to involves very high energies using protons.
(72) Natural time machines do exist.
(73) The major physics break through for controlled gravity distortion does happen at CERN in your future.
(74) Heck, we haven't even touched on "Z" field compression yet.
(75) In 2036, it was discovered (or at least known after testing) that the 5100 computer was capable of reading and changing all of the legacy code written by IBM before the release of that system and still be able to create new code in APL and basic.
(76) However, IBM never published that information because it would have probably destroyed a large part of their business infrastructure in the early 70s. In fact, I would bet the engineers were probably told to keep their mouth's shut.
January 2001
(HOST: Although John said he would not make predictions or tell us what happens in the future, he did make enough comments that leave a trail of what might be called predictions. The following section contains all of the comments John made about the future, the technology of time travel and cryptic comments that seemed out of context.
The web sites attached are based on my own searches. In most cases, I looked up the term John mentions and then searched under the results with the word "time travel" or any other phrase he mentioned. I hope to add the rest of his posts by month in the coming weeks.)
46. I have no idea what happens to you in your future. There was a resistance on my worldline but their goal was to maintain power and control over other people. We killed most of them by 2020.
What is the progress on string theory?
47. In 2036, string theory still dominates physics due to its continued "effect" of encompassing other physical properties from unrelated fields. A great deal of the theoretical mathematics behind time travel was discovered by testing various ideas in string theory and eliminating the anomalies. As I recall, it was this original work that led to the final proof that six dimensions do indeed curl up to give us our observable universe. This in turn supported more of the theoretical math behind time travel.
48. It's ironic that the beauty of string theory gives future engineers the confidence to create the distortion unit even though the final proof is still unknown. You're a physics student, have you ever heard the Princeton String Quartet play?
(HOST: This last link has an interesting section on the Princeton String Quartet that John refers to. Apparently this is a group of scientists who have used string theory to calculate the existence of multiple universes around us. If anyone understands this stuff, please let me know.)
49. The reason the job of President was split into an office of 5 has 4 main reasons. With 5 (presidents), foreign policy is more consistent, power shifting between parties has less of an impact on the overall government, individual strengths between presidents add to the strength of the overall office, and one president is elected for each major area in the United States.
What is the extent of Presidential power in 2036?
50. The office of President is far more diluted and decentralized than it is here. The powers of the national government are more defined and reside more at the county and state level.
What is the new government like in 2036 compared to the current one?
51. I think the new government is good. However, since the concept of nationally subsidized welfare is gone, most people here may not appreciate it.
Where is the new US capitol?
52. The new US capitol is in Omaha Nebraska.
How do the 5 presidents take power?
53. The voting for individual candidates is on a rotating schedule.
54. E(8) x E(8)?
(HOST: Does this refer to string theory? If it does, did John predict this would be the dominant equation. Again, I don't know enough about the subject. )
55. You said 6 curled up dimensions. The current string theory suggests that there should be at least 7.
(HOST: I may be mistaken but I thought it was pretty well established now that (N-10) was on track.)
56. I don't believe I ever said I came back looking for a UNIX bug fix. I came back for a computer system. Don't you find UNIX useful now?
57. Just curious.... what does everyone think of "IT"? (Ginger)
What exactly is "IT". Since no one will know for sure until probably 2002 according to news reports.
58. I suppose this question is my own fault. As a time traveler, I am expected to know every winning horse and hot stock as well as the weather in all parts of the world at all times. I was genuinely interested in your opinion of how "IT" was being presented and advertised. Do you feel manipulated? Do you think it's really a big deal? Do you like the way the news is dealing with it?
Why are you so interested in the Constitution?
59. After the war, the United States had split into five separate regions based on the various factors and military objectives they each had.
Are the Olympics still being played in the future?
60. As a result of the many conflicts, no, there were no official Olympics after 2004. However, it appears they may be revived in 2040.
61. Can anyone tell me how many companies in the United States still manufacture bicycle tires today? Anyone who still has a bike in 2008 will find out.
(HOST: I did a quick search and couldn't find any bike tire manufacturers in the United States. Anyone else know of one?)
62. The "Mad Cow" story here is yet to begin but don't worry, the fruited gelatin deserts are safe.
63. I'm glad to see it's so easy for to dismiss the Middle East. Yes, I suppose it is a no brainer but pretty soon it will be a "no arrmer" and a "no legger".
64. The year 2008 was a general date by which time everyone will realize the world they thought they were living in was over.
65. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.
Hij geeft zelf aan dat er een afwijking van zon 2% is (al eerder genoemd in dit topic?) in het verloop van de tijd.quote:Op dinsdag 26 april 2005 23:22 schreef Flowce het volgende:
Duidelijk een hoax aangezien de voorspellingen niet uit zijn gekomen. Voor wat betreft het gelul over paralelle werkelijkheden, kwam "Titor" volgens zijn eigen opmerkingen uit een andere werkelijkheid, waardoor zijn "voorspellingen" geen waarde in deze werkelijkheid hebben.
Al met al, gelul dus!
Hele sterke hoax dat wel, vooral door de wetenschappelijk onderbouwde uitspraken over de superstringtheorie.
Waarschijnlijk dus een hoax van een hele slimme hoaxer! chapeau dude
en daarover was al controverse in de dialoog met titor. Omdat hij 2005 zo vaak aanvoert en vervolgens 2004. Weet niet exact meer wat er verder erover is gezegd, moet ik het opnieuw lezen.quote:65. The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse. The conflict will consume everyone in the US by 2012 and end in 2015 with a very short WWIII.
Lijkt me niet aangezien de VS al de contacten met Japan bevroren had, en al troepen had ingezet tegen Duitsland (in IJsland) dat een oorlogspartner van Japan was. Ik denk niet dat ze het zo ver hadden laten komen.quote:Op zaterdag 23 april 2005 12:39 schreef Neurotica het volgende:
eurm.... Amerika werd door Pearl-H weldegelijk in de oorlog betrokken met Japan (en niet met t Derde Rijkje) ... als PH niet gebeurd was, dan had Japan zijn dominantie kunnen uitbreiden zonder "de slapende beer" wakker te maken... en had uiteindelijk Japan misschien wel gezegevierd in de Stille Oceaan... toch?!
?! wist niet dat Amerikaanse troepen in IJsland geland waren ?!quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 11:47 schreef DivineJester het volgende:
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Lijkt me niet aangezien de VS al de contacten met Japan bevroren had, en al troepen had ingezet tegen Duitsland (in IJsland) dat een oorlogspartner van Japan was. Ik denk niet dat ze het zo ver hadden laten komen.
Jij doelt op een tijdlijn-paradox, maar legt het verkeerd uit volgens mij.quote:Op vrijdag 22 april 2005 17:43 schreef Loserkid het volgende:
In de tijdlijn van Titor is er toch ook een toekomst?
Dan zou de John Titor uit 'zijn' toekomst toch ook terug in de tijd gaan en op een forum posten?
(begrijpen jullie dat?)
Ik geloof niet dat het zo werkt. Je kan proberen mij te overtuigen.quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:10 schreef DonGorgon het volgende:
Tijdlijn 1: John komt naar 'onze' tijdlijn (Tijdlijn 2), In tijdlijn 1 in 2036 is er dus geen John meer (want die is bij ons)
Tijdlijn 2: Er zijn 2 John's. 1 uit onze tijdlijn (van 2 of 3 jaar oud) en John uit tijdljin 1. Maar in de toekomst van onze tijdlijn is ook een John, die in 2036 terug in de tijd gaat, naar Tijdiljn 3..
Probleem echter is: John uit Tijdljin 1, komt nooit meer terug in 'zijn' tijdlijn (tijdlijn 1) omdat er 1 a 2% divergence is.
HOE KAN HIJ DAN DIE IBM TERUG MEENEMEN NAAR 2036 IN TIJDLIJN 1??? (want daar hebben ze hem immers nodig) In een andere tijdlijn hebben ze misshcien geen WW3 gehad en hebben ze die IBM helemaal niet nodig....
Roosevelt had voor de oorlogsverklaring al de order gegeven dat de amerikaanse marine vanaf IJsland briste convooien moest begeleiden en U-boten die in de buurt kwamen moest aanvallen: dat betekende dat Hitler sterk beperkt werd in zijn mogelijkheid om konvooien aan te vallen ..quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 11:47 schreef DivineJester het volgende:
Lijkt me niet aangezien de VS al de contacten met Japan bevroren had, en al troepen had ingezet tegen Duitsland (in IJsland) dat een oorlogspartner van Japan was. Ik denk niet dat ze het zo ver hadden laten komen.
Dat is een 'determinstisch tijdsbeeld'; alles wat nog gaat gebeuren ligt even sterk vast als de geschiedenis zelf ....quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:14 schreef SlimShady het volgende:
Volgens mij is er maar één tijdslijn.
quote:62. The "Mad Cow" story here is yet to begin but don't worry, the fruited gelatin deserts are safe.
quote:(65) The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense.
(66) Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack.
(67) The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction.
Does anything happen in the year 2012? I've heard stories about the world ending.
(68) Yes, there are unusual events in 2012 but they do not cause the world to end. It is important that they be a surprise. Perhaps you are familiar with the story of the Red Sea and the Egyptians?
How and why do the Arabs Jews become entangled in the civil war of the U.S.A?
(69) They are not directly involved but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.
The Arab countries appear to have weapons of mass destruction. Do they use them against America?
(70) Not against America but they are used against each other
In de Efteling is ie er al.quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:15 schreef LordZett het volgende:
wat er ook gebeurt ragnarok zal komen.
Volgens mij geven die quotes eerder de politieke overtuiging van John Titor de persoon die leeft in 2000, en betrokken is bij de politieke stand-der-zaken in die tijd ....quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:16 schreef Neurotica het volgende:
maar deze quotes vind ik wel interessant:
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(66) Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack.
(67) The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction.
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Ik vind in scene zetten een te groot woord. Ik denk eerder dat ze (in dit geval bv de Amerikanen) rekening houden met geruchten/theorieen en soms blijken deze waar. Verder selectief met dingen omgaan (als in puur noemen wat je uitkomt) dus een ramp ombuigen tot een oorlog die ergens wel goed uitkomt etc.quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:14 schreef RM-rf het volgende:
Hoe zulke incidenten plaatsvinden is altijd bron geweest van complotgedachten, soms is bewezen dat het in scene gezet is: Tongkin bay (geensceneerd incident dat tot de vietnam oorlog leidde), De Northwood Documenten (plan om een incident in scene te zetten dat tot een oorlog met Cuba leidde, overigens, blauwdruk voor Tongkin-Bay), de beroemde 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' bij Iraq... Het 'zimmermann Telegram in 1917 ...
Als ik zou geloven in tijdreizen:quote:Dat is een 'determinstisch tijdsbeeld'; alles wat nog gaat gebeuren ligt even sterk vast als de geschiedenis zelf ....
Wat is dan jouw oplossing voor de 'grootvader-paradox?'..
ik weet het niet... als je kijkt naar bv. de uitspraak die het internationale gerechtshof gedaan heeft in Den Haag, betreffende de kwestie van de nederzettingen. sowieso het feit dat amerika en israël (IL) het gerechtshof niet erkennen... en andere landen weer wel...quote:
Hieruit kan ik opmaken dat John Titor onderzoek heeft gedaan en enorm veel informatie heeft verzameld.quote:
Of hij nu té veel aandacht krijgt of niet.. óf het nu een Hoax is of niet..het zet mensen wél aan het denkenquote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:39 schreef livEliveD het volgende:
Ben ik trouwens de enige die vind dat deze Titor teveel aandacht en eer krijgt? Echt serieus kan ik het persoonlijk niet nemen
Fake of niet, hij doet soms wel rake uitspraken. Al bewijzen die helemaal niet. Dat is ook niet nodig. Het zijn gewoon aandachtspunten.quote:Op woensdag 27 april 2005 12:41 schreef SlimShady het volgende:
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Hieruit kan ik opmaken dat John Titor onderzoek heeft gedaan en enorm veel informatie heeft verzameld.
Hij is net zo nep als een waarzegger.
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