Wat gaan er gebeuren met Italië?

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Op woensdag 24 november 2004 01:56 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:
Verklaring voor de staatsschuld van bijna alle westerse landen?
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Op maandag 29 november 2004 19:07 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

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Denk je dat dit soort monetaire ideeen 80 jaar na dato nog actueel zijn, of wat zeggen over de daadwerkelijke situatie?

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"The rich will strive to establish their dominion and enslave the rest. They always did...they always will. They will have the same effect here as elsewhere, if we do not, by the power of government, keep them in their proper spheres."
- Gouvernor Morris, head of the committee that wrote the final draft of the U.S. Constitution

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"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes the laws."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild, founder of the Rothschild international banking dynasty, 1790

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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."
- Thomas Jefferson

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"This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in circulation, cash or credit. If the banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon."
- Robert H. Hamphill, Credit Manager, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank

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"The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it all back again. However, take this great power away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine disappear, and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control credit."
- Sir Josiah Stamp, President of the Bank of England in the 1920s, the second richest man in Britain

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"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

"The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts."
- Henry Ford

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"In a small Swiss city [Basel] sits an international organization so obscure and secretive [that few people know about it]...Control of the institution, the Bank for International Settlements, lies with some of the world's most powerful and least visible men; the heads of 32 central banks, officials able to shift billions of dollars and alter the course of economies at the stroke of a pen."
- Keith Bradsher of the New York Times, August 5, 1995

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"The Federal Reserve Bank is pretty secretive about who it's owning banks or shareholders are. It has been determined that the "class A" stock in the Federal Reserve Bank are held by the following 8 institutions: Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin, Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam, Lehman Bank of New York, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Chase Manhattan Bank of New York, Goldman Sachs Bank of New York. The Remaining Stock is held by the Chemical Trust and the Rockefeller Trust. These stockholders hold Federal Government Obligations which amount to about $6 Trillion Dollars - The entire U.S. National Debt. Their annual profits from interest payments are over $200 Billion dollars per year."

"Bill Gates is not the 'richest man in the world' by a long shot. His 50 billion dollar fortune (give or take) is virtually nothing compared to the wealth and economic power of the House of Rothschild. Baron Jacob Rothschild (who controls the Rothschild banking dynasty) is owed approximately half of the U.S. national debt (which is now some 6 trillion dollars) because the privately-owned Rothschild Bank and its proxies have a 51 percent ownership and controlling interest in the U.S. Federal Reserve System; and this 3 trillion dollar amount obviously does not even include the debt that many other nations ultimately owe to the Rothschild banking network. The interest payments alone provide the Rothschild Bank with 100 billion dollars per year. The reason that the Rothschild dynasty remains generally obscure to the public is because virtually all of their assets are privately-owned and they are very carefully protected from public scrutiny by various ways and means. It has been estimated that the House of Rothschild, directly or indirectly, controls a very substantial portion of the 35 trillion dollars in total overall spending power that exists in the world today."

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Op donderdag 2 december 2004 18:48 schreef faustkern het volgende:
Ik lees dat Berlusconi van plan is de inkomstenbelastingen aan te passen, hieronder het voorstel:

T/M 26.000 EURO: 23%
26.000 tot 33.500 EURO: 33%
33.500 en hoger: 39%
Inkomens vanaf 100.000 EURO betalen een zgn. solidariteitsheffing van 4%.

Ziet er een stuk beter uit dan in het stalinistisch-communistisch belastingregime wat men in de Nederland heeft.

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T/M 26.000 EURO: 23%
26.000 tot 33.500 EURO: 33%
33.500 en hoger: 39%
Inkomens vanaf 100.000 EURO betalen een zgn. solidariteitsheffing van 4%.

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Neem de betuwelijn, de bouwfraude, etc. Daarnaast kom ik de laatste tijd ook op kleine schaal dingen tegen, waar de honden geen brood van lusten.

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Op donderdag 2 december 2004 21:48 schreef Pietverdriet het volgende:

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Belastingvrije voet?
Is dit inclusief sociale lasten en staatspensioen?
Ziekenfonds?
Kijk, ik woon in Duitsland en dan denk je, die belasting tarieven vallen best mee, maar dan komen daar enorme sociale lasten en pensioenbetalingen over heen, je kan hier blij zijn als je de helft uiteindelijk krijgt.

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Aftrekposten: 3200 voor dependant (partner), voor elk kind 2900 euro, voor elk kind jonger als 3 jaar: 3450 euro (dure luiers daar in Italie), in het geval ve kind met een handicap is de aftrekpost 3700 euro, als je je ouders verzorgt kan je nog eens 1700 euro afvoeren, hypotheek/annuiteit rente aftrek is gemaximalieerd op 4500 euro.

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Op woensdag 1 december 2004 02:19 schreef OpenYourMind het volgende:

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ja... er is honderden jaren aan gewerkt en elke keer faalde het systeem door de hebzucht van de internationale bankiers.

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Een kleine selectie quotes over de bankinstellingen.
Misschien dat deze filmpjes wat meer verklaren en wat duidelijker zijn...

http://www.mises.org/multimedia/video/Fed.wmv
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/moneymasters1.wmv
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/moneymasters2.wmv

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Op donderdag 9 december 2004 01:13 schreef faustkern het volgende:
Zwaa offtopic, maar toch even reageren:

Elk systeem wat gebaseerd is op een fiat-currency (nep-geld) is tot nu toe omzeep gebracht door onkundige centrale banken, inflatie, corrupte politici ('sociale programma's'). Neem als voorbeeld de USD, die is na het overnemen van het bancaire systeem door FED met 95% in koopkracht gedaald is nog geen 91 jaar tijd. Als men de goudstandaard gehanteerd had dan zou deze dollar nog precies even veel waard zijn. Idem ditto NLG, DEM, CHF en laten we het maar niet hebben over al die andere phony money valuta's in deze wereld.