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Greece in talks to send one Patriot battery to Ukraine, but seeks US security assurance first
On April 22, FT wrote that some EU and NATO member states are putting pressure on Greece and Spain to provide Ukraine with more air defense systems

Greece may hand over a Patriot air defense system to Ukraine on the condition of monetary compensation from the US and security guarantees due to the threat from Turkiye, reported the Greek outlet Рronews with reference to government sources in the country.

According to the agency's interlocutors, Athens will hand over one Patriot Pac 3 battery to Ukraine, which can shoot down ballistic targets, in exchange for security guarantees from the United States. The journalists do not specify what security guarantees the country received.

In addition, if necessary, Washington will be able to transfer the Patriot to Greece from its own reserves, replacing it with the one that Athens will transfer to Kyiv, or provide monetary compensation from the aid package of more than $60 billion after the decision of the Senate and the signature of US President Joe Biden.

Greece will hand over only one battery to Ukraine, but later Kyiv will be able to receive a second one. Journalists claim that such a decision is likely to cause controversy within the country.

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Czech MEP Martin Hlaváček is Disrupting Free Trade with Ukraine
The Czech MEP, who is an ally of former Prime Minister Andrej Babi¨, is trying to win the support of his colleagues in an attempt to change the rules of free trade with Ukraine. Martin Hlaváček asked all members of the European Parliament to join him in submitting amendments to further tighten restrictions on Ukrainian agricultural goods as part of continued trade liberalization measures.

He made the move just before a plenary vote in Strasbourg, in which MEPs will vote on extending the free trade regime for a year, albeit with restrictions. If Hlaváček gets enough support, it would bring the process to a halt as the EU Parliament soon goes into recess ahead of the elections in early June. Then the term of Ukraine’s access to the EU market expires.

A protégé of Babi¨, a former prime minister who made his $3.5 billion fortune in agriculture, is again submitting the amendments after similar attempts failed in February and March. “The negotiations did not lead to satisfactory results for EU farmers,” Hlaváček stressed, referring to the tripartite talks between the European institutions. “That is why I still believe that our amendments can significantly contribute to improving conditions for farmers and address the shortcomings of the Commission’s original proposal,” he added.

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Ukraine's Minister of Agrarian Policy Charged With Corruption
Mykola Solskyi has been handed a notice of suspicion of illegal land acquisition. Ukraine’s anti-corruption agencies accuse Solskyi of unlawfully seizing millions of dollars worth of land.

Officers of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) have presented the current Minister of Agrarian Policy, Mykola Solskyi with a notice of suspicion.

Solskyi is suspected of illegally seizing 2.5 thousand hectares of land in the Sumy region, according to a message posted by the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO) on Telegram.

The prosecutor suspects the former chairman of the Agrarian Committee of the Verkhovna Rada and the current Minister of seizing land in the Sumy region – an area of about 2.5 thousand hectares worth Hr.291 million ($7.3 million) – and an attempt to seize land with an area of about 3.3 thousand hectares for another Hr.190 million ($4.8 million).

The report further states that for the implementation of the scheme, its participants first ensured the destruction of documents on the basis of which state-owned enterprises had the right to permanent use of land.

Later, this became the basis for the regional StateGeoCadastre land registry service to draw up an act on the unauthorized occupation of these land plots by state-owned enterprises.

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Foreign Minister explains why Ukrainian consulates suspended services for men liable for military service
Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba has confirmed reports of suspending consular services to Ukrainian men liable for military service residing abroad.

Source: Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba on Twitter (X)

Details: Kuleba noted that the protection of the rights and interests of Ukrainian citizens abroad has been and remains a priority for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. However, in the current circumstances, the main priority is the fight for Ukraine's survival.

"How it looks like now: a man of conscription age went abroad, showed his state that he does not care about its survival, and then comes and wants to receive services from this state. It does not work this way. Our country is at war," Kuleba emphasised.

He reminded men liable for military service that the obligation to update their data at the territorial military enlistment offices existed even before the adoption of the new mobilisation law.

"If anyone believes that while someone is fighting far away at the frontline and risking his or her life for this state, someone else is staying abroad but receiving services from this state, then this is not how it works. Staying abroad does not relieve a citizen of his or her duties to the Homeland. That is why yesterday I ordered measures to restore fair attitudes toward men of conscription age in Ukraine and abroad. This will be fair," he said.

He added that soon the Ministry of Foreign Affairs will provide further clarification regarding the procedure for obtaining consular services for men of conscription age at diplomatic missions abroad.

Background:
• On 11 April, the Verkhovna Rada passed in full the bill on issues of mobilisation, military registration and military service.
• Meanwhile, Rob Bauer, Chair of the NATO Military Committee, considers additional mobilisation in Ukraine necessary.

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Swedish Navy chief says Russian 'shadow fleet' of oil tankers possibly conducting espionage in Baltic Sea
Russia's "shadow fleet" of oil tankers is possibly conducting espionage in the Baltic Sea as well as helping circumvent sanctions on the trade of Russian oil, said Swedish Navy chief Ewa Skoog Haslum, in comments to the SVT public broadcaster published on April 22.

The shadow fleet refers to aging and largely uninsured oil tankers that Russia uses to transport oil above the $60 per barrel price cap that the EU, the U.S., and the Group of Seven (G7) countries imposed in December 2022 as part of the effort to cut Moscow's fossil fuels revenue.

Haslum said some of the ships from the shadow fleet have been found to possess communications and signals equipment not usually associated with cargo vessels, leading to concerns they could be used in "hybrid operations."

The equipment could possibly be used to intercept communications or perform other acts of espionage, she added.

Beyond their use to bypass sanctions and possibly conduct espionage, there has been concern that the shadow fleet could be a potential threat to the environment. The Financial Times (FT) reported in November 2023 that Denmark could start inspecting and potentially blocking the transit of Russian oil tankers operating in its waters without Western insurance.

As Western insurance carriers will not cover ships violating the price cap, the move would likely cause a significant impact to the transit of oil through the Baltic Sea. It is unclear if Denmark has made any progress in implementing the plan.

Haslum echoed the concerns about the possible impact to the Baltic Sea, saying the shadow fleet could become both a "security and environmental tragedy."

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In Georgia they protested against a conference from the “institute” of former FSB employees - video
A conference called “Russia and the World: Dialogues - 2024” was held in the capital of Georgia, where issues of “traditional values” were discussed: activists came to protest against it. Source: Sirena, Agency

One of the co-organizers of the event was the National Research Institute for the Development of Communications (NIIKR), led by former intelligence and KGB officer Vladimir Gasumyanov. In the evening, Georgian activists threw eggs at the Tiflis Palace hotel, where the conference was held, expressing their dissatisfaction.

During the rally, they chanted: “Putin is f*cked.”

The Agency reports that NIIKR was founded in 2020. One of its founders was Lieutenant General Nikolai Gribin, a former KGB officer in Copenhagen and head of the 3rd KGB department, responsible for relations with Britain, Australia and the Scandinavian countries. Another founder was businesswoman Irina Zavesnitskaya, who, according to some sources, had a common address with Vladislav Gasumyanov, director of the Scientific Research Institute of Innovative Development.

According to Gasumyanov’s official biography, he worked in the KGB, SVR and FSB from 1982 to 2001. In addition, he served as deputy head of the Presidential Administration for Interregional and Cultural Relations with Foreign Countries and was a member of the board of directors of Norilsk Nickel. Since 2015, he has been teaching at the Department of Corporate Security at MGIMO.

In addition to Gasumyanov and Gribin, the supervisory board of NIIKR includes other former employees of Soviet and Russian intelligence services, including Lieutenant General Anatoly Bolyukh, ex-deputy head of the FSB counterintelligence operations department Lieutenant General Boris Miroshnikov and former deputy director of the Federal Counterintelligence Service, as well as former secretary Security Council of the Russian Federation - Valentina Soboleva.

In addition to Georgia, it was decided to hold the “Russia and the World” conference in Belarus, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and South Ossetia (the occupied part of Georgia).

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Thousands of European flights reportedly affected by suspected Russian jamming
Thousands of flights to and from Europe have been reportedly affected by suspected Russian jamming of GPS systems.

According to a report by The Sun based on data from the website GPSJAM.org, some 46,000 aircraft have reported problems over the Baltic Sea since last August, with most of them occurring in Eastern Europe near borders with Russia.

Russia has been accused of jamming GPS signals in nearby countries such as Finland as far back as the 2010s, and several recent high-profile incidents of jamming have highlighted the issue.

Most notably, Russia is believed to have jammed the satellite signal of a Royal Air Force aircraft used to transport U.K. Defence Minister Grant Shapps.

The aircraft, which was traveling back to Britain from Poland on March 13, was jammed for about 30 minutes as it flew by Russia's Kaliningrad region.

GPS signal and internet on board the aircraft were inaccessible for the duration of the aircraft's flight near Kaliningrad where the jamming signals are thought to originate.

A spokesperson for U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak confirmed the incident at the time, noting it was "not unusual."

Aircraft rely on GPS for navigation but the U.K.’s Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) played down the risk to passenger safety.

"Aviation is one of the safest forms of air travel, and there are several safety protocols in place to protect navigation systems on commercial aircraft," Glenn Bradley, the head of flight operations at the CAA, told the Guardian.

"GPS jamming does not directly impact the navigation of an aircraft, and while it is a known issue, this does not mean an aircraft has been jammed deliberately."

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Russia Drops X-59 Missile on Belgorod in Latest Self-Bombing
Russia has mistakenly dropped a missile on its own territory near to the Ukraine border, marking the latest self-bombing incident in the ongoing war.

An X-59 missile was discovered in a field near the village of Krasnoye in Russia's Belgorod region on April 19, Astra reported on its Telegram channel on Monday. "The military had to destroy it on the spot. There was no damage [caused] or victims," the independent Russian outlet said.

Newsweek couldn't independently verify the report and has contacted Russia's Defense Ministry by email for additional comment. The Kremlin hasn't commented on the latest incident reported in Belgorod.

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Rishi Sunak vows to boost UK defence spending to 2.5% of GDP by 2030
Rishi Sunak has promised billions more for defence to counter threats from "an axis of authoritarian states".

The prime minister said UK military spending would rise to 2.5% of national income by 2030, in a move that hardens a previous spending pledge.

He stressed the UK was "not on the brink of war" but claimed the extra money would put the country's defence industry "on a war footing".

Labour is also committed to a 2.5% target, when economic conditions allow.

Making the defence announcement during a visit to Poland, Mr Sunak said the UK was facing the most dangerous international environment since the days of the Cold War between the West and the former Soviet Union.

The investment was required because the UK was facing an "axis of authoritarian states with different values to ours," including Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China, he said.

These countries, he argued, were showing a "new assertiveness" and were increasingly working together.

It represents a significant increase in UK defence spending, but it will not change the size of the UK armed forces or reverse cuts to the size of the army.

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Russian Soldier Accidentally Films Detonation of Putin's Prized Howitzer
ew footage appears to show an explosion engulfing a Russian artillery system behind the front lines in Moscow-controlled territory as Ukraine gears up for an expected Russian summer offensive.

A video circulating on social media appears to show Russian forces filming the detonation of a 2S5 Giatsint-S self-propelled howitzer in an open field at an undisclosed location in eastern Ukraine's Donbas region. It is not clear what caused the explosion or whether the system was damaged beyond repair.

An open-source intelligence account sharing the footage said the video was filmed on Monday.

Newsweek could not independently verify the clip and has reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email.

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Ukrainian troops destroyed Russian 2S4 Tyulpan self-propelled mortar in the Luhansk region

Ukrainian Defense Forces artillery destroyed a Russian 240mm Tyulpan self-propelled mortar near Lysychansk.

The Division-TIVAZ Telegram channel published the video of the defeat.

The Russians set up a mortar firing position on the border of a forest and a field near a road on the temporarily occupied territory.

The authors of the video did not specify what weapons were used to hit the Russian 2S4 Tyulpan, but it is clear that it was hit by a high-precision munition, possibly from a HIMARS rocket system.

As a result of the strike, the ammunition of the Russian 240-mm mortar ignited and exploded, leading to the complete destruction of the Tyulpan self-propelled mortar.

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U.S. preparing new $1 billion military aid package for Ukraine – Reuters
According to Reuters sources, the aid package will include weapons that can "immediately be put to use on the battlefield"

The United States will provide a new $1 billion military aid package to Ukraine once the $61 billion bill is approved by the Senate and signed by President Joe Biden, Reuters reported, citing two American officials.

The sources told the news agency's journalists that the aid package will include vehicles, Stinger anti-aircraft ammunition, additional ammunition for high mobility artillery rocket systems, 155 mm caliber artillery ammunition, and TOW and Javelin anti-tank ammunition, among other weapons that can "immediately be put to use on the battlefield."

Following the signing of the Ukrainian-Israeli bill, funding for the replenishment of American stocks will be restored. This will allay the Pentagon's concerns about the use of presidential authority to reduce U.S. weapons to aid Ukraine, the publication noted.

Against this backdrop, Reuters reported that American defense companies expect to receive more government contracts as Russia's war against Ukraine continues.

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Ambassador: Ukraine in talks to set up joint production of Patriot systems
Kyiv is pushing Washington for the joint production of Patriot air defense systems to help Ukraine fend off Russia's war, Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova said in an interview with European Pravda on April 23.

Ukraine is facing a shortage of air defense systems amid an uptick in Russian attacks on population centers and energy infrastructure. U.S.-made Patriot systems are highly effective at intercepting Russia's ballistic and cruise missiles.

According to President Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine needs 25 Patriots to protect the country from Russian attacks, but Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said he is for now focused on securing seven to protect Ukraine's largest cities.

The joint production of Patriots was one of the top issues discussed during Zelensky's visits to the U.S., according to Markarova.

"This is a major global strategic task and an element of economic cooperation. But it is also an increase in combat capability and production of the capabilities that Ukraine needs immediately," the ambassador said.

Representatives of Ukrainian and U.S. businesses have already reportedly met to discuss investment and cooperation not only in weapons, but also in materials needed to launch the production.

"We should start producing a lot of products ourselves, at least components, and at most already completed products," Markarova added.

Ukraine has agreements on joint defense production with a number of countries, including the U.S.

Kyiv and Washington signed a statement of intent on the co-production of weapons in December 2023.

The agreement between the two nations will reportedly contribute to the construction of production facilities in Ukraine to supply the military with arms, in particular air defense equipment and ammunition, as well as repair and maintenance services.

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NATO has no plans to deploy nuclear weapons in other countries – Stoltenberg
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has said that the Alliance currently has no plans to deploy nuclear weapons in other countries as part of its deterrence efforts.

Source: Jens Stoltenberg, at a press conference in Poland together with British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak on 23 April, European Pravda reports

Details: Stoltenberg was asked to comment on whether NATO countries are talking about expanding the Nuclear Sharing programme.

Quote: "There are no plans to expand NATO sharing arrangements, no plans to deploy any more nuclear weapons in any additional NATO countries."

More details: Nuclear Sharing is NATO's nuclear deterrence programme. It allows for provision of nuclear warheads to NATO member states that do not have nuclear weapons of their own.

Within the framework of this programme, NATO has deployed US nuclear weapons to Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Türkiye since November 2009.

The previous Polish government actively supported the idea of joining the Nuclear Sharing programme among NATO countries in response to Russia's decision to deploy tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus.

Recently, Polish President Andrzej Duda's statement about the possible deployment of nuclear weapons led to his public dispute with Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

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In Ukraine, New American Technology Won the Day. Until It Was Overwhelmed.

Project Maven was meant to revolutionize modern warfare. But the conflict in Ukraine has underscored how difficult it is to get 21st-century data into 19th-century trenches.

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Op dinsdag 23 april 2024 21:08 schreef oheng het volgende:
Oja, ik weet niet of het hier al gepost is maar, Engeland zet de defensie industrie in "oorlogsmodus"

Defensie uitgaven gaan naar 2,5% in 2030.

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Senate overwhelmingly passes long-delayed Ukraine and Israel aid
After months of intense, multi-faceted fighting over foreign aid, the $95 billion bill that could also ban TikTok is headed to President Joe Biden's desk.

The Senate sent a $95 billion foreign aid package for Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan to the president's desk Tuesday — a long-awaited result after months of congressional haggling over whether to provide funding for the allies.

The bill also included a provision that would require TikTok's parent company to either sell the social media app or face a ban, as well as a measure that permits selling off Russian oligarch assets.

Though the legislation passed with bipartisan support, 79-18, the political ramifications will be felt throughout the Capitol. It’s a win for Democrats and defense-focused Republicans on the critical issue of Ukraine aid, but a swath of conservatives are incensed with party leadership for allowing the bill through.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 06:18 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
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Geld moet geen probleem zijn. Als de US dit niet wil betalen zijn er andere Europese landen die al aangegeven hebben deze te willen kopen. Waaronder Nederland. En veiligheidsgaranties kunnen wij toch ook prima geven. Griekenland zit in de NAVO tenslotte. Als Turkije hun aanvalt dan zijn wij verplicht om Griekenland te verdedigen lijkt mij. Ook al zit Turkije ook in de NAVO.

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Op dinsdag 23 april 2024 21:08 schreef oheng het volgende:
Oja, ik weet niet of het hier al gepost is maar, Engeland zet de defensie industrie in "oorlogsmodus"

Defensie uitgaven gaan naar 2,5% in 2030.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 08:42 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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Ik vraag mij meer af waarom andere landen het niet doen. NL heeft 1 batterij in opslag als ik wiki moet geloven en de VS heeft er 100den. Waarom levert de VS er zelf niet 1?

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Drones attack Russia - Drone falls in Lipetsk, oil depot burns in Smolensk region
In the night, the Russian Federation was again attacked by drones. A drone crashed in the city of Lipetsk, and an oil depot is on fire in the Smolensk region, according to Telegram channels of Igor Artamonov, governor of the Lipetsk region, and Vasily Anokhin, governor of the Smolensk region, and local public groups.

During the attack, a UAV fell in the industrial zone of the city of Lipetsk.

There are no casualties. Law enforcement officers are working at the scene.

Meanwhile, an oil depot caught fire in the Smolensk region. After the drone attacks, fires occurred at fuel and energy facilities in two districts of the region.

"It is quite possible that as a result of the enemy's attack on civilian fuel and energy facilities in the territory of the Smolensk and Yartsevo districts, fires occurred. The Ministry of Emergency Situations is on the spot eliminating the consequences. I urge you to remain calm and not to panic," wrote Vasily Anokhin, governor of the Smolensk region.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 08:49 schreef Delenlill het volgende:

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Begrijp mij niet verkeerd. Ik ben er voor om Oekraïne alle hulp te geven die zij nodig hebben. Ook al gaat dat ten kosten van onze paraatheid en voorraden op dit ogenblik. De EU en NAVO zijn grote organisaties. En als wij het willen kunnen wij heel veel.

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Largest convoy of fire and rescue vehicles leaves UK for Ukraine
33 vehicles set off from Kent carrying ‘vital’ equipment for country’s ‘heroic firefighters’ including ladders and breathing kits

A convoy of fire and rescue vehicles has set off from the UK to deliver emergency firefighting aid to Ukraine.

The 33 vehicles, including 20 fire engines – the largest convoy of its kind to date – left Kent on Tuesday morning carrying more than 2,800 pieces of equipment such as ladders, boats and breathing kits to the war-torn country.

More than 100 volunteers from 15 fire services, which have donated the equipment, and the organisation Fire Aid, are taking part in the convoy, which has been sponsored by the Home Office.

In an exclusive article for The Telegraph, Chris Philp, a Home Office minister, said the equipment is vital for the “heroic firefighters” of Ukraine, 91 of whom had given their lives during the conflict helping rescue victims of Vladimir Putin’s war.

“Putin is intentionally targeting civilians and civilian buildings in Ukraine, leading to unprecedented demands on the fire and rescue services that respond to these attacks,” he said.

“The fact the Ukrainian fire and rescue services have been able to respond to this number of incidents while suffering significant losses of personnel and equipment, is staggering.”

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 09:03 schreef oheng het volgende:
Die "raffinaderij" in Smolensk is geen raffinaderij hoor, maar eerder een olie terminal/depot/doorvoer station naar Wit-Rusland.

Zit op mobiel, dus kan ff niet makkelijk satelietbeelden plaatsen.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 08:49 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Maar wat erg belangrijk voor Amerika is dat zij meer dan genoeg voorraden hebben voor het geval dat zij direct in een oorlog komen. Hun eigen paraatheid en dus ook eigen voorraden hebben prioriteit. Dit is zelfs in de wet vastgelegd.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 06:18 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Griekenland zit in de NAVO tenslotte. Als Turkije hun aanvalt dan zijn wij verplicht om Griekenland te verdedigen lijkt mij. Ook al zit Turkije ook in de NAVO.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 09:56 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Gast, houd toch eens op met die NSC talkingpoints napraten.

Niet alleen heeft de VS voor elke ploeg mensen die een patriot bedienen 3 complete sets; want bv een ploeg die richting saudi arabie gaat, neemt z'n set niet mee, die gebruiken er 1 die daar staat, en hun eigen in de VS gaat gewoon in opslag, daarbij heeft de VS pres echt de autoriteit om ook gloednieuw spul overbodig te verklaren, in de jom kipoer-oorlog gingen er immers ook gloednieuwe F-4's richting israel.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 09:58 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Nee, want de de NAVO is niet een inter-alliance peacekeeping force. Het is een naar buiten gerichte aliantie.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:16 schreef Delenlill het volgende:

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Een aanval op 1 land is een aanval op alle landen. Er staat nergens in het NAVO handvest dat dit alleen om aanvallen van landen buiten de NAVO gaat.

Dat er eerst een ontelbaar aantal debatten en vergaderingen hierover zullen plaatsvinden, waarin landen partij kiezen en naar elkaar wijzen als aanstichter hiervan doet hier niet aan af. Als Griekenland artikel 5 aanroept bij een aanval van Turkije dan moet hier op gereageerd worden.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:22 schreef zuchtje het volgende:

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Wat als Turkije als eerst een artikel 5 aanroept, en ondertussen al preventief wat eilandjes gaat bezetten? Ik denk dat het als alliantie een stuk lastiger is om interne conflicten op te lossen met militaire middelen. Dat wordt meer een EU vs TUR waarbij de NAVO alleen mediation aanbied en/of neutrale gebieden bewaakt. NAVO valt uit elkaar als het actief de een of ander gaat helpen, mocht een lid de kont tegen de krib gooien.

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Article 8.
Each Party declares that none of the international engagements now in force between it and any other of the Parties or any third State is in conflict with the provisions of this Treaty, and undertakes not to enter into any international engagement in conflict with this Treaty.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:12 schreef Delenlill het volgende:

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NCS?

Ik weet hoe moeilijk vandaag wel niet voor je moet zijn. Nu blijkt dat het inderdaad de republikeinse blokkade was die alle hulp tegen hield (al vanaf dat ze de meerderheid kregen in het Huis). En nu deze weggenomen is de hulp eindelijk op gang kan komen, en ook nog eens in een snelvaart.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:26 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
In elk geval zal de land die een andere land aanvalt binnen de NAVO artikel 8 overtreden. Maar voor zover ik weet staan hier nog geen sancties op daar het nooit op een grotere schaal gebeurd is. Maar het lijkt mij dat dit een reden kan zijn om een land uit de NATO te gooien. Of in elk geval te schorsen.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:42 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Maar waarom er blijkbaar met alle geweld vervangende gelden voor afgeschreven materiel gerealiseerd moet worden voor je die kunt doneren, hebben jij en alle andere biden stoepjes vegers nog steeds geen antwoord op hé?

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:42 schreef ExTec het volgende:
hebben jij en alle andere biden stoepjes vegers nog steeds geen antwoord op hé?

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 11:31 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:

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Wat een verschrikkelijk irritante manier van discussiëren is dit. En dan heb je het zelf over gekakel.. come on bruh

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 11:25 schreef ExTec het volgende:
Ok, in al het gekakel is het moeilijk om alles te blijven volgen, maar dit is wel big (if true).

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Dan ook hopen dat het flinke aantallen zijn.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 11:35 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Helaas. Elke gek zijn gebrek. En als er dan mensen biden's (voorheen?) pasiviteit blijven whitewashen, zich verschuilend achter beperkingen die biden c.s. zichzelf op blijven leggen, zeg ik daar wat van.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 11:36 schreef xzaz het volgende:

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Rostov aan de Don of Wolgograd zijn mooie doelwitten.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:42 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Maar waarom er blijkbaar met alle geweld vervangende gelden voor afgeschreven materiel gerealiseerd moet worden voor je die kunt doneren, hebben jij en alle andere biden stoepjes vegers nog steeds geen antwoord op hé?

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 11:54 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Jij haalt de PDA en EDA weer door elkaar.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:56 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Zijn daar provisies voor dan?

Nee?

Dan komt dat neer op, unanimiteit.

Veel succes met een land schorsen, en dat land daar zelf akkoord mee laten gaan.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:11 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Er zijn inderdaad geen provisies voor op dit ogenblik. Tenminste niet die publiekelijk zijn. Maar dat wil niet zeggen dat het onmogelijk is, of dat er geen andere opties zijn.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:11 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Nee, doe ik niet. Ik merk op dat het de 2de keer is dat je dit trucje probeert te flikken.

Als je een woestijn vol humvee's hebt staan, die echt overbodig zijn, maar weigert die uit te leveren, en daarna potsierlijk ze (zogenaamd) van een operationele plek weg haalt, om ze zo onder PDA te scharen, ipv EDA, ben je bezig met werkgelegendheid, en niet primair met oekraine helpen.

Maar ik had je dit al eerder gevraagd, waarom ze niet gewoon die dingen uit de woestijn pakte, en daar had je geen antwoord op.

Daarbij is het wettelijk niet verplicht om vervanginsgelden tegenover PDA schenkingen te zetten, dat is, wederom, keuze.

En dan kan je gaan schermen met JA MAAR OPERATIONEEL, who are you kidding?

Maar ja, als de whitehouse spox zegt dat dat en dat weggeven de operatie van de VS' leger in gevaar brengt, en jij kiest er voor om dat voor zoete koek te slikken, dan helpt dat enorm om op het gewenste eindpunt te komen -> biden kan er niks aan doen, het zijn de evil reps.

Even zo beleefd mogelijk:

Ik ben van mening dat jij maar blijft volharden in het whitewashen van biden c.s. passiviteit, die er zogenaamd niks aan konden doen, de afgelopen 6 maanden.

Maar ipv dit over elke as aangrijpen om werkgelegenheid te creeeren, hadden ze dat ook kunnen laten, en gewoon oekraine kunnen helpen.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 09:10 schreef Delenlill het volgende:

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Gaat het om dezelfde installatie/infrastructuur die vorige week ook al geraakt was?

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:40 schreef StateOfMind het volgende:
Vermoeiend deze 'discussie'

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:25 schreef over_hedge het volgende:
Nee jammer voor je. Top zin weer als je een discussie met iemand hebt. Je kan je standpunten ook verdedigen zonder elke keer half boos te worden en elke keer van die vreemde dingen te zeggen die niks in een discussie te zoeken hebben. Die denigrerende opmerkingen de hele tijd

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:41 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:

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Dit dus en ik ga het vanaf nu ook verwijderen. Je verwoordt je maar op een normale niet passief agressieve manier of anders helemaal niet. Gaat helemaal nergens over.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:31 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Omdat al die voorraden in de woestijn niet perse excessive zijn.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 10:56 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Zijn daar provisies voor dan?

Nee?

Dan komt dat neer op, unanimiteit.

Veel succes met een land schorsen, en dat land daar zelf akkoord mee laten gaan.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:53 schreef sp3c het volgende:

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Conventie van Wenen gaat daarover, het is niet nodig om dat in het NATO charteralsnog vast te leggen

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Het Verdrag van Wenen inzake diplomatiek verkeer (ook wel Conventie van Wenen of Weense Conventie genoemd) is een van de internationale verdragen waarin de regels van het diplomatieke verkeer zijn vastgelegd.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:44 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Maar dan komt het er dus feitelijk op neer dat de biden admin naar gelang het hun uitkomt bepaalt of het overbodig is of niet?

Is dus hun keuze?

En gezien prestaties uit het verleden, hebben ze daar ontzettend veel ruimte in?

Dan wilde ze dus spul niet overbodig verklaren, dan wilde ze dus feitelijk oekraine niet helpen?

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 13:12 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Waarom? Volgens Oekraïne gaat daar per dag nog nog één goederentrein overheen en verder is die nu alleen in gebruik voor passagiersverkeer. Strategisch dus niet zo heel spannend. Er zijn betere doelen te verzinnen. Het is een leuk doelwit om Poetin's feestje op 9 Mei mee te verzieken. Maar zo'n PR succes kan weer tegen Oekraïne werken als er vervolgens een passagierstrein de zee in kleddert met veel doden tot gevolg.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 12:59 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Ik zie de link niet echt?

Bv gedragsregels omtrent wat ambassadeurs kunnen, mogen, do's and don't voor de gastlanden lijken mij nogal ver af te staan van de huisregels van de NAVO.

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“Material Breach” under the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties
These passages confirm that maintaining and furthering the principles on which the Alliance is based — democracy, individual liberty and the rule of law — forms part of the object and purpose of the North Atlantic Treaty. This, in turn, suggests that a failure to comply with these principles may amount to a material breach of the treaty within the meaning of Article 60 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. Pursuant to Article 60, a material breach consists of:

(a) a repudiation of the treaty not sanctioned by the present Convention; or
(b) the violation of a provision essential to the accomplishment of the object or purpose of the treaty.

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Op woensdag 24 april 2024 13:19 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
Daar gaat de ministerie van defensie over. Die bepaald of iets overbodig is of niet.

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Maar dat is vast niet zo gemakkelijk als Biden die even aangeeft dat hij wat als excessief genoteerd wil hebben.