Oorlog in Oekra�ne #929 onzeker richting de lente.

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House Speaker Mike Johnson Throws Cold Water On Senate Foreign Aid Bill
The Republican leader said the House would "work its own will" but didn't rule out allowing a vote on the legislation.

WASHINGTON ― House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) suggested Monday that the House would not vote on a foreign aid bill working its way through the Senate this week.

Johnson complained in a statement from his office that the Senate legislation, which would provide billions of dollars in aid for Israel and Ukraine, did not have any provisions aimed at reducing migration into the U.S. from the southern border.

“Now, in the absence of having received any single border policy change from the Senate, the House will have to continue to work its own will on these important matters,” Johnson said.

Johnson’s statement did not explicitly rule out allowing the House to vote on a Senate-passed foreign aid bill. A spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for clarification.

If the House voted on the legislation, it would likely pass with support from both Republicans and Democrats ― an outcome that could put Johnson in danger of losing his job. A faction of far-right Republicans threw Johnson’s predecessor out of the speaker’s office following a bipartisan vote to avoid a government shutdown last fall.

The foreign aid bill would provide $95 billion worth of military support to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine. Senators initially paired the aid with several changes to immigration laws aimed at ramping up deportations in an effort to placate Johnson, but he declared that legislation “dead on arrival” in the House, saying such legislation was pointless with President Joe Biden in office. The Senate then moved to a bill containing just the foreign aid.

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who helped negotiate the border proposals with Sens. James Lankford (R-Okla.) and Kyrsten Sinema (I-Ariz.), complained on social media, in a lowercase rant, that Johnson had reversed his position.

“the speaker said he wouldn’t pass ukraine funding without a border deal and we got a deal and then he killed the deal because he said we didn’t need a deal and now he says he won’t pass our ukraine funding bill bc it doesn’t include a border deal,” Murphy wrote.

“honestly,” Murphy added. “wtf.”

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In France, a network for the distribution of Russian propaganda about the war against Ukraine was exposed
The French agency for countering foreign influence VIGINUM reported on the exposure of the special operation of the Russian Federation called Portal Kombat, within which a network of Russian websites spread Kremlin propaganda about the war in Ukraine in the West.

Censor.NET informs about this with reference to European Pravda .

The Portal Kombat network consists of at least 193 sites. At first, they spread news about Ukraine and Russia, but from the beginning of the invasion, they refocused on the occupied Ukrainian territories, and then on several Western countries that support Ukraine, in particular France .

Some of the sites contained the word "pravda" in the domain name. For example, the English-language portal was searched for via the link pravda.en.com, and the French-language portal – pravda.fr.com.

"The sites of this network do not create their own content, but rebroadcast publications from three main sources: accounts of Russian or pro-Russian subjects in social networks, Russian news agencies, and official sites of local institutions or subjects," VIGINUM notes.

From June 23 to September 19, 2023, more than 150,000 materials were published on the site. The goal of Portal Kombat was to provide positive coverage of the "special military operation" of Russia, as well as to discredit Ukraine and its leadership.

"In an attempt to reach a wide audience, this network uses a number of methods, including careful selection of pro-Russian propaganda sources according to the target audience, massive automation of content distribution and search engine optimization," the report says.

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Trump will pull US out of NATO if he wins election, ex-adviser warns
As US allies reel from Donald Trump’s weekend comments encouraging Russia to attack European allies if they don’t meet NATO budget contribution goals, multiple former Trump advisers warn in my upcoming book that the former president will seek to formally withdraw the US from the NATO alliance if he wins a second term.

In “The Return of Great Powers”, which will be published March 12, a former senior US official, who served in both the Trump and Biden administrations at a high level, told me that if Trump defeats President Joe Biden in November “the US will be out of NATO.”

“NATO would be in real jeopardy,” John Bolton, Trump’s former national security adviser, agreed. “I think he would try to get out.”

Trump’s disparagement of US security commitments extends to its mutual defense agreements with South Korea and Japan as well, retired General John Kelly, who served as White House chief of staff to Trump, told me.

“The point is, he saw absolutely no point in NATO,” Kelly said in the book. “He was just dead set against having troops in South Korea, again, a deterrent force, or having troops in Japan, a deterrent force.”

“He thought (Vladimir) Putin was an okay guy and Kim (Jong Un) was an okay guy �that we had pushed North Korea into a corner,” Kelly recalled. “To him, it was like we were goading these guys. ‘If we didn’t have NATO, then Putin wouldn’t be doing these things.’”

Senior members of the administration I spoke to for the book also detailed how Trump came close to withdrawing the US from the alliance, which is a key bedrock of Western security against Russia, in his first term and warn he is likely to go further in a second.

“Democrat and media pearl-clutchers seem to have forgotten that we had four years of peace and prosperity under President Trump, but Europe saw death and destruction under Obama-Biden and now more death and destruction under Biden,” Trump campaign spokesperson Jason Miller told CNN. “President Trump got our allies to increase their NATO spending by demanding they pay up, but Joe Biden went back to letting them take advantage of the American taxpayer. When you don’t pay your defense spending you can’t be surprised that you get more war.”

Trump’s 2018 near NATO exit
At the core of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and enshrined in Article 5 of the treaty is the promise of collective defense — that an attack on one member nation is an attack on all the nations in the alliance. Trump has long complained about the amount NATO members spend on defense compared with the US.

In “The Return of Great Powers,” multiple advisors recount in detail how Trump very nearly removed the US from NATO at the alliance’s 2018 summit in Brussels.

“He was always ranting and raving and jumping up and down, and oftentimes he would spin up in terms of, ‘Well, I’m smarter than they are,’ and all of this,” Kelly said, describing Trump’s mindset in Brussels. Kelly said he tried to explain the importance of NATO to Trump in terms he believed the president would understand. Kelly’s approach involved a combination of explaining what was actually possible and what might make him look bad. In the case of withdrawing from NATO, Kelly tried to convey to Trump that both applied.

But at the summit, Trump persisted. A former senior US official told me that Trump issued orders to then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley and then Defense Secretary Mark Esper for the US to withdraw from NATO. Despite vehemently opposing the move. They considered the president’s direction a “lawful order” and drew up plans to execute the withdrawal.

Bolton recalls the 2018 summit with genuine fear. “Honest to God, it was frightening because we didn’t know what he was going to do up until the last minute. And I mean, I think, he all but said he was going to get out of NATO and then pulled back on it,” said Bolton.

Other potential Trump targets
Many veterans of the Trump administration have a similar warning for Ukraine. “US support for Ukraine would end,” said the senior US official who served under Trump and Biden.

Noting Trump’s comment at a Fox News town hall in July 2023 claiming, if reelected as president, he could end the war in one day, Bolton said, “If I were Ukraine, I’d be very worried, because if everything is a deal, then ‘what’s another ten percent of Ukrainian territory if it brings peace?’ kind of thing.”

US support for Taiwan, they say, would also be in jeopardy. Bolton recalled a stunt Trump would carry out in the Oval Office. “He would hold up the tip of his Sharpie pen and say, ‘That’s Taiwan. See this Resolute Desk, that’s China.’” His point, according to Bolton, is that Taiwan is too small to successfully defend itself against a Chinese invasion— � and too small for the US to care.

Bolton recalled, “I mean, if I were in Taiwan, I would be very worried about a Trump administration.”

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 08:32 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
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Afgelopen nacht zijn ze weer een stapje dichterbij gekomen. Dat is al de derde stemming in nog geen week. 66-33 deze keer. "Aye" heeft 1 stem verloren dus, en diegene die zondag niet gestemd hadden zijn nu weer terug met hun "nay"

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 08:32 schreef Delenlill het volgende:
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Afgelopen nacht zijn ze weer een stapje dichterbij gekomen. Dat is al de derde stemming in nog geen week. 66-33 deze keer. "Aye" heeft 1 stem verloren dus, en diegene die zondag niet gestemd hadden zijn nu weer terug met hun "nay"

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Mongolia's former president mocks Putin with a map showing how big the Mongol empire used to be, and how small Russia was
• Putin has relied on historical borders to argue Ukraine is part of Russia and to justify the war.
• Mongolia's former president shared a map of the Mongol Empire, which included parts of Russia.
• "After Putin's talk. I found Mongolian historic map. Don't worry. We are a peaceful and free nation," he wrote.

The former president of Mongolia mocked Russian President Vladimir Putin over the weekend and his focus on history to try to justify his invasion of Ukraine.

Putin has frequently used historical borders to rationalize his brutal invasion, arguing that Russia has a claim over Ukraine even though Ukraine is an independent country.

In his interview with the former Fox News host Tucker Carlson last week, Putin outlined centuries of Russian and European history. Historians say much of the history he gave doesn't stand up.

On X, Tsakhia Elbegdorj, Mongolia's president between 2009 and 2017 and its former prime minister, poked fun at Putin's argument.

He shared maps showing how large the Mongol Empire was, with it once controlling parts of what is now Russia.

"After Putin's talk. I found Mongolian historic map. Don't worry. We are a peaceful and free nation," Elbegdorj wrote.

The maps he shared also showed how small Russia was in the 15th century.

The Mongol Empire was once the largest in the world. Its territory covered much of Eurasia and included modern-day China and much of Russia, as well as Ukraine.

Today, Mongolia, between China and Russia, is a smaller country, but it's still one of the world's largest nations in terms of overall landmass.

Mongolia's government has not supported Russia's invasion of Ukraine, though it has not outright condemned it.

But Elbegdorj has been vocal in his support for Ukraine.

He wrote in February 2023: "The world's democracies must rally with even greater resolve to declare that freedom is non-negotiable, and to give Ukraine the weapons it needs to win."

He added: "I know Putin does not tolerate freedom. I have sat with him on many occasions. He despises differences and competition. He fears a free Ukraine. As a deep narcissist, he could not afford to see more successful and prosperous neighbors."

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Leaked photo reveals dismantled Taipans waiting in warehouse for burial, reigniting frustrations not to send aircraft to Ukraine

• In short: The army's decommissioned Taipans are lying dismantled in a warehouse awaiting burial.
• A leaked photo being shared has reignited frustrations at the government's decision not to send the aircraft to Ukraine.
• What's next? The Taipans remain due for burial, with some parts being sold to overseas buyers.

A leaked photograph of the Australian Army's now dismantled Taipan helicopters awaiting burial has reignited frustrations over Canberra's decision to bury the aircraft underground rather than donate them to Ukraine.

Aviation experts say the image taken recently from inside a Townsville hangar proves the aircraft could be easily restored to an airworthy condition, but former pilots warn donating the helicopters to Ukraine would be handing over a "poisoned chalice".

"These 27 aircraft in the Townsville maintenance storage facility are in far less a state of disassembly than what takes place during normal deep maintenance," a defence engineer insisted.

"Most airframes have their landing gear still installed, main gearbox and rotors head," the Taipan specialist told the ABC, speaking on the condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of the matter.

"The only real issue in reassembling is that many components would have exceeded their calendar-based maintenance intervals."

Last year the Albanese government announced the troubled European-designed fleet would be retired earlier than scheduled following a crash off the Queensland coast which killed four personnel.

The Defence Department last week told the ABC that "disassembly of the MRH-90 fleet is well advanced and no aircraft are in flying condition" with many parts already sold off to other global users of the platform.

Now the Australian Army Aviation Association (AAAA) has issued a public statement to hit back at suggestions the Taipans should be reassembled and sent to Europe to help the Ukrainian war effort.

"From the outset, Australia would be gifting a poisoned chalice," president Charlie Barton said in response to a recent offer by army veterans and engineers to help restore the aircraft.

"If Australia was not capable of keeping the MRH to a flying status that enabled even the minimum acceptable flying rates of effort to keep aircrew competent, what chance does a country at-war, with limited people and resources have?"

"There is nothing simple about 'turning a few spinners' when it comes to an all-composite, digital fly-by-wire helicopter," Mr Barton said.

"Australian soldiers and sailors worked so hard to make the fleet successful, yet even that wasn't enough."

The AAAA also pointed to how many European nations including Belgium, Sweden, Norway, and Greece which operate similar NH-90 fleets, were now retiring the complex aircraft.

"Of the 14 nations that bought NH90, four are completely withdrawing their NH90s and one is withdrawing half," Mr Barton argues.

"Have we asked why Germany, Belgium, Sweden or Norway are not offering to donate their NH-90s?"

"A country at war needs reliable equipment that is guaranteed to operate and be battle-ready. I would contest that the NH-90 is neither."

On Friday Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy told reporters the Taipans were no longer in flying condition and would require a huge expenditure of time and resources to get them back.

"The best value for money option for the Commonwealth was to sell the spare parts and dispose of the rest of the asset, and I'll refer you to what the Ukrainian ambassador said: It's time to move on."

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Op maandag 12 februari 2024 21:48 schreef NeeOfTochJA het volgende:

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Makkelijk praten vanachter je computer. Onderhandelen waar beide partijen het eens kunnen worden. Of liever niet proberen en nog een paar 100 duizend doden?

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Russian Mi-24 Chases Drone in Leningrad Oblast

A Russian Mi-24 attack helicopter attempted to intercept an unidentified drone in the skies over the Leningrad oblast.

Footage of the incident was posted online.

On February 12, 2024, at around 3:00 p.m., a Russian attack helicopter was spotted intercepting an unknown drone.

The video depicts the helicopter crew closely following the drone but refraining from firing. This is likely due to the drone’s flight over a settlement.

� осійський Ми-24 переслідує безпілотник в Ленінградській області [Лютий 2024]

According to the footage, the drone in the video has a conventional aerodynamic design with a straight wing and tailplane.

It is not yet known whether the Russian pilots managed to shoot down the drone.

Previously, Russian forces have used army aviation to counter drones. For example, last year, a Russian Mi-28 intercepted a drone belonging to the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine in Crimea.

During the operation, the intelligence agency’s drone managed to ‘escape’ from pursuit and fire from an onboard 30-mm autocannon.

Два ворожих вертольоти та літак за час тривалої погоні так і не змогли збити український безпілотник

Drones attack oil and gas infrastructure
It is worth noting that the Leningrad Oblast is 800 kilometers away from the Russian-Ukrainian border and has already been targeted by unmanned aerial vehicles several times.

In particular, on the night of January 18, 2024, at about 1:30 a.m., the port infrastructure in St. Petersburg was attacked by Ukrainian-made drones with a flight range of 1,250 kilometers.

At that time, an unknown UAV with a wingspan of 6 meters and a piston engine was carrying a 3 kg warhead.

Later, on January 21, drones attacked the gas tanks of the Novatek terminal in the seaport of Ust-Luga, Leningrad oblast. As a result of the strike, a massive fire broke out on the territory of the enterprise, and the facility was severely damaged.

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Op maandag 12 februari 2024 21:48 schreef NeeOfTochJA het volgende:

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Makkelijk praten vanachter je computer. Onderhandelen waar beide partijen het eens kunnen worden. Of liever niet proberen en nog een paar 100 duizend doden?

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Op maandag 12 februari 2024 22:23 schreef LXIV het volgende:

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Met drones verover je niks. Bovendien is escalatie en oneindige verlenging van de oorlog juist iets wat ieder zinnig mens op tegen is.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 09:26 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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Zo redenerend had GB zich in juni 1940 over moeten geven.

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Dozens of Russian Aircraft Have Mysteriously Disappeared
Russian authorities are investigating the mysterious disappearance of several aircraft, several of which ended up in the hands of Ukrainian forces battling Moscow's troops, according to Russian media.

Russia's domestic security service, the FSB, is looking into allegations that Moscow's Federal Air Transport Agency, Rosaviatsiya, sent Russian civil aircraft and helicopters to nations including "unfriendly countries," state-backed Russian newspaper, Izvestia, reported on Monday.

"The Federal Security Service opened two criminal cases — negligence and abuse of power — against several employees of the Federal Air Transport Agency," according to Izvestia. The employees are "suspected of illegally removing 59 planes and helicopters from Russian jurisdiction" after Moscow launched its invasion of Ukraine nearly two years ago, the newspaper reported.

A number of the unaccounted-for aircraft were used by Ukraine in military operations against Russia, Izvestia reported, citing two anonymous Russian law enforcement sources and an unnamed source in Moscow's transport ministry.

Ukraine used several Mi-8 helicopters, as well as an Il-76 multi-purpose strategic airlifter, against Moscow's forces in Ukraine, the newspaper reported.

Newsweek has reached out to Russia's Federal Air Transport Agency, the Ministry for Transport and Ukraine's military for comment via email. The Kremlin's press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, declined to respond to queries about the FSB investigation on Monday, Russian state news agency Tass reported.

The Ministry of Transport audited Rosaviatsiya's records of civil aircraft in July 2023, and inconsistencies led to the criminal investigations, Izvestia reported. Employees of the Federal Air Transport Agency "removed" aircraft from a register of civil assets "without complete sets of documents, provided contradictory and unreliable information about the location of aircraft outside Russia," according to the newspaper, citing a Ministry of Transport spokesperson.

The Federal Air Transport Agency deals with the country's civil aviation sector and control of Russia's airspace. It is also in charge of certifying "aircraft ownership rights and related transactions," according to the Russian government.

Russia has used its Mi-8 helicopter extensively in operations across Ukraine. The helicopter is used to transport troops, and is one of the most widely-used helicopters among the world's militaries. There are many different variants of the Mi-8, including helicopters used as airborne command posts and as armed gunship, according to the U.S. military.

Kyiv has said at several points during the nearly two years of war that it has shot down Russian Mi-8 helicopters, including using U.S.-provided HIMARS, or High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems.

Ukraine also said in August 2023 that it had managed to coax a Russian Mi-8 pilot to land in Kyiv-controlled territory before confiscating the helicopter.

Earlier this month, Russian officials said an Mi-8 helicopter had crashed in a lake in the country's northern Karelia region. Another Mi-8 crashed in Kyrgyzstan in mid-January.

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Searches in Russia over aircraft seized by Ukraine
Russia has opened criminal proceedings for the illegal sale of planes and helicopters abroad, in particular to Ukraine.

The Russian propaganda outlet Izvestia reported on this.

As part of the proceedings on the illegal withdrawal of 59 civilian Il-76 aircraft and Mi-8 helicopters from Russian jurisdiction, searches were conducted at the Federal Air Transport Agency (Rosaviatsiya).

The relevant aircraft and helicopters were withdrawn abroad from March 2022 to June 2023.

According to the publication, the searches took place on February 7. Security forces seized "items and documents confirming the illegality of their actions" from offices of high-ranking Rosaviatsiya employees.

Russian security forces claim that at least three withdrawn Mi-8 helicopters entered Ukraine and took part in hostilities against the Russian invasion army as part of Ukrainian Defense Forces.

Some of these planes, including IL-76 transport aircraft, ended up in countries that the Russian government calls "unfriendly."

Some of these planes were allegedly used to transport military aid to Ukraine provided by Western countries.

The preliminary inspection also revealed that, among other things, Rosaviatsiya employees had been removing aircraft from the state register of civil aircraft without a complete set of documents.

In addition, they provided contradictory and unreliable information about the aircraft's stay outside of Russia.

The audit also revealed the facts that employees of the Federal Air Transport Agency had not requested information from other agencies about the permits issued to aircraft owners.

As previously reported, after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine began in February 2022, the United States, the European Union, and a number of other countries announced that they would close the skies to Russian aircraft. Western manufacturing companies have stopped servicing Russian aircraft and supplying spare parts. In addition, some aircraft leasing companies have also refused to work with the Russian Federation.

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Op maandag 12 februari 2024 22:32 schreef NeeOfTochJA het volgende:

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Proberen met de oorlog te stoppen. Alleen dat is hier niet populair.

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Rusland zet Estse premier Kaja Kallas op lijst van gezochte personen
Rusland lanceert een opsporingsbericht voor de Estse premier Kaja Kallas, . Dat meldt het Russische ministerie van Binnenlandse Zaken.

“Kaja Kallas. Gezocht op grond van een artikel uit het strafrecht”, zo staat te lezen in het bericht. Voor welk vermeend misdrijf de premier precies gezocht wordt, is niet duidelijk, al wijst het bericht wel opnieuw op de spanningen die ontstaan zijn tussen Moskou en de Baltische staten sinds de start van de oorlog in Oekra�ne.

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Czech VOP CZ has not yet started repairing Ukrainian T-64 tanks
Eight months after signing an agreement with the Czech VOP CZ to repair Ukrainian T-64s, the company has not received a single tank.

Rostislav Ro�novsk�, spokesperson of VOP CZ, stated this to ČTK.

Last June, the Czech Ministry of Defense announced the signing of a contract for the repair and modernization of T-64 tanks of the Ukrainian army.

The Czech company was to overhaul the tanks and replace their sighting systems and radios with modern analogs under the supervision of Ukrainian experts who are familiar with this type of equipment.

However, in the eight months since the contract was signed, not a single combat vehicle was received for the performance of these services.

According to the CZ VOP spokesperson Rostislav Ro�novsk�, the contract is still valid but is not fulfilled due to lack of equipment.

“VOP CZ is ready to accept tanks at any time and start working on them, but we have nothing to repair yet. The Ukrainian side has not yet delivered tanks,” Ro�novsk� noted.

The Czech Ministry of Defense has not yet commented on this.

The lack of the necessary equipment may be due to the fact that most of the necessary tasks to repair these tanks can be performed within the country. It is reported that Ukraine continues to repair and modernize armored vehicles even during the war.

Last August, Militarnyi reported that Ukraine was upgrading its tanks to the T-64BV mod. 2022 level.

The upgraded vehicles were equipped with improved protection, a new gunner thermal sight, an updated driver compartment, a military-grade L3 Harris digital radio, and an SN-4215 satellite navigation device.

In addition, some orders may also be fulfilled by another country. In particular, in April 2023, the Polish armored plant Bumar-Labędy also started repairing T-64 tanks under an agreement between Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa and the Ukrainian Ukroboronprom concern.

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Op maandag 12 februari 2024 22:32 schreef NeeOfTochJA het volgende:

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Proberen met de oorlog te stoppen. Alleen dat is hier niet populair.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 09:59 schreef Frutsel het volgende:

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 09:44 schreef Pleun2011 het volgende:

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Zoals anderen al goed hebben uitgelegd: stoppen met de oorlog is voor Oekra�ne geen optie, dan zijn ze een groot deel van hun land kwijt en de voorwaarden van Rusland zijn zodanig dat er een puppetstaat van Rusland overblijft.
Het is de omgekeerde wereld en kwaadaardig om van een aangevallen land maar te verwachten dat het niet terugvecht. En over de aggressor geen kwaad woord.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:10 schreef Nyamuk het volgende:

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Fascinerend hoe sommigen schaamteloos de waarde van een stuk kapotgeschoten land in mensenlevens weet uit te drukken.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 06:48 schreef Wantie het volgende:

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Klopt inderdaad.
Dat Rusland aan het vechten is in Oekra�ne is de schuld van Oekra�ne zelf, zo luidt de doctrine.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:10 schreef Nyamuk het volgende:

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Fascinerend hoe sommigen schaamteloos de waarde van een stuk kapotgeschoten land in mensenlevens weet uit te drukken.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:10 schreef Nyamuk het volgende:

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Fascinerend hoe sommigen schaamteloos de waarde van een stuk kapotgeschoten land in mensenlevens weet uit te drukken.

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Op maandag 12 februari 2024 21:36 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:

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Daar denken een heleboel Oekra�ners anders over.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:13 schreef ExTec het volgende:

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Schaamteloos hoe pro-rus tankies vanachter hun toetsenbordje een paar 1000KM verderop maar pontificeren hoe een land wat overlopen is door een agressor zich maar gewoon over moet geven.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:38 schreef Nyamuk het volgende:

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Aldus 'iemand achter zijn toetsenbord' wiens gevoel voor de 'nobele zaak' ook maar even uitgedrukt mag worden in. Honderden duizenden dode mensen in Oekra�ne.

Niet dat het uiteindelijk nut heeft ofzo, maar het slaapt vast lekker 's nachts.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:37 schreef Straatcommando. het volgende:
Die heeft ook wat corrigerende tikken gehad zo te zien

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:38 schreef Nyamuk het volgende:

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Aldus 'iemand achter zijn toetsenbord' wiens gevoel voor de 'nobele zaak' ook maar even uitgedrukt mag worden in. Honderden duizenden dode mensen in Oekra�ne.

Niet dat het uiteindelijk nut heeft ofzo, maar het slaapt vast lekker 's nachts.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:38 schreef Nyamuk het volgende:

Niet dat het uiteindelijk nut heeft ofzo, maar het slaapt vast lekker 's nachts.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 09:34 schreef LXIV het volgende:

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Onderhandelen is toch wezenlijk wat anders dan overgeven? Je kunt vanuit een sterke of een zwakke positie onderhandelen. Feitelijk dient oorlog enkel om je onderhandelingen kracht bij te zetten. (Oorlog is een voortzetting van de politiek)
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Natuurlijk niet. Zonder sterk leger heb je geen onderhandelingspositie.

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 10:04 schreef Frutsel het volgende:

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Hoe?

-Twee tot vier provincies van de Oekra�ne "weggeven" aan Rusland?
-Rest van de Oekr�ine direct in de NAVO?
-Nukes teruggeven aan de Oekra�ne?

Zeg maar? Hoe??

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Op dinsdag 13 februari 2024 11:24 schreef icecreamfarmer_NL het volgende:

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Het is Oekra�ne zonder de.