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Welke andere users?quote:Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 19:52 schreef Candymannetje het volgende:
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O dus je bent weer bezig om andere users woorden in de mond te leggen, duidelijk.
Namen graag.
Groepsimmuniteit mag wel het resultaat zijn, maar niet het doel... - Vallon
Je riep dus maar wat.quote:
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De users waar jij hebt over hebt.
Groepsimmuniteit mag wel het resultaat zijn, maar niet het doel... - Vallon
Nee, kijk nou wat je hier zegt.quote:
Jij komt dat hier tegen, dan heb je het toch over posts van users of bedoel je de reclame?quote:Op vrijdag 10 maart 2023 19:45 schreef Wantie het volgende:
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Dat is wat ik hier vaak tegenkom, dat alle steun aan Oekraïne moet worden ingetrokken, zodat Rusland alsnog een overwinning krijgt.
Graag verwijderen
Jij beschuldigt mij ergens van, zonder dat je dat concreet kunt maken.quote:
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Nee, kijk nou wat je hier zegt.
Users is nogal abstract.quote:[..]
Jij komt dat hier tegen, dan heb je het toch over posts van users of bedoel je de reclame?
Als je niet concreet weet welke users of posts ik bedoel, hoezo kun je dan concluderen dat ik ze woorden in de mond leg.
Groepsimmuniteit mag wel het resultaat zijn, maar niet het doel... - Vallon
Dat hoef ik ook niet te weten, jij zegt zelf dat je het tegen komt hier.quote:
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Jij beschuldigt mij ergens van, zonder dat je dat concreet kunt maken.
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Users is nogal abstract.
Als je niet concreet weet welke users of posts ik bedoel, hoezo kun je dan concluderen dat ik ze woorden in de mond leg.
Wie het zijn maakt verder niet uit.
Graag verwijderen
Als ik dat voor je aantoon, wat ga je ermee doen?quote:
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Nee, kijk nou wat je hier zegt.
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Jij komt dat hier tegen, dan heb je het toch over posts van users of bedoel je de reclame?
De reclame.quote:
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Nee, kijk nou wat je hier zegt.
[..]
Jij komt dat hier tegen, dan heb je het toch over posts van users of bedoel je de reclame?
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
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Absent 'friends:' What Ukraine could learn from a new report about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan
Published: 10 Mar 2023 | 18:41 GMT
The American exit from Kabul might be taste of the future for officials in Kiev
Absent 'friends:' What Ukraine could learn from a new report about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan
FILE PHOTO: An Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) soldier mans a machinegun mounted on a vehicle while patrolling an area during a military operation in Guzara. © HOSHANG HASHIMI / AFP
By Felix Livshitz
In the spirit of better late than never, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) has published an extensive investigation into the collapse of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) following the US withdrawal from Kabul in August 2021. The report not only offers, at-times shocking, detail on the level of Washington’s betrayal, but important lessons for America’s international allies today.
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The ANDSF’s collapse was quite a sight to behold. The vast fighting force, constructed at a cost of $90 billion over 20 years, seemed to vanish even faster than the American aircraft escaping Kabul airport. This is despite US officials endlessly claiming in the leadup to the West’s wholesale pullout from Afghanistan that the government was more than capable of defending itself without foreign support.
However, SIGAR’s appraisal makes clear this disintegration was a long-time in the making. The February 2020 Dohar agreement between former President Donald Trump's administration and the Taliban meant that the ANDSF could no longer rely on the US military’s presence in Afghanistan to protect against losses, move weaponry and other supplies around the country on its behalf, or even for their salaries to be paid by the government in Kabul.
As a result, the often unpaid army units stationed around the country lacked ammunition, food, water, and other basic necessities to “sustain military engagements against the Taliban” - and any will whatsoever to fight.
“The Taliban’s military campaign exploited the ANDSF’s logistical, tactical, and leadership weaknesses. Direct attacks and negotiated surrenders set up a domino effect of one district after another falling to the Taliban,” SIGAR records. “The Taliban’s media and psychological warfare campaign, magnified by real-time reporting, further undermined the Afghan forces’ determination to fight.”
Even before the Dohar agreement though, “underlying and systemic factors…made the ANSDF vulnerable to collapse in the first place.” Chief among them, US plans to build the Afghan armed forces were “disconnected from a realistic understanding of the time required” to do so. This is despite Washington taking decades to achieve a similar result in South Korea.
Advisors themselves were also judged by SIGAR to be “often poorly trained and inexperienced for their mission.” Key challenges were “limited or no pre-deployment and in-theater training, and frequent rotational deployments that lacked proper handovers.” These shortcomings meant the US could neither build relationships with nor improve the capacity of the ANDSF.
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Despite the report’s inventory of savage indictments, it concludes by stating SIGAR is “not making any recommendations” for future US action, or policy, as a result of its findings. Pentagon officials probably wouldn’t listen even if any were offered. An annex of the document notes that the Department of Defense’s engagement with SIGAR’s investigation was minimal, with virtually none of the information requested turned over.
The Pentagon “only provided limited responses to SIGAR’s request for information and missed every deadline for responding to SIGAR’s questions or for providing feedback to vetting drafts of this report,” the appraisal notes. For example in November 2021, SIGAR submitted 21 separate questions to the Department of Defense, asking for replies by 21 December 2021. It wasn’t until eight months later “limited records” were given.
Lessons to learn
Still, the lessons of SIGAR’s report are very clear. First and foremost, its disclosures stand as a stark warning of the fate that could await close US allies, should Washington’s “interests” be served by abandoning them at a given moment.
For example, ANDSF members who did not manage to flee Afghanistan following the US withdrawal have either been killed or joined “extremist groups”. Either way, they’ve been completely forgotten about, an obvious outcome of Washington showing little interest in ensuring safe passage out of the country for its former proxy fighters, before, during or after its own escape.
Likewise, much of the military equipment provided by the US is now used by the Taliban for both training and operations, including armored vehicles and military aircraft. They have been detected in videos of military parades, and training sessions.
It was even difficult for Washington to know which weaponry and ammunition had been sent to Afghanistan by the Department of Defense. SIGAR found officials failed to provide accurate accounting of shipments, and fell far short of oversight requirements “for monitoring sensitive equipment transferred to the Afghan government and the ANDSF,” making it likely that equipment could be lost or stolen. Internal controls failed to offer protection against fictitious records being logged in internal monitoring systems.
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Nonetheless, the US did scramble to rescue some of the gear it provided to the ANDSF, in particular aircraft intended for the ill-fated Afghan Air Force.
Some of the salvaged planes were moved into storage in the US, while “others have already been repurposed and sent to other countries, such as Ukraine.”
The reference to these jets reaching Ukraine is particularly fitting, given it was not long after its hasty retreat from Afghanistan – following 20 years of failure – that Kiev became the primary foreign policy focus for the White House. With weapons, ammunition, political will and public support all nearly spent across Europe and North America, the current proxy war with Russia probably can't be sustained for two decades, and maybe not even two years.
Ukrainian leaders might want to to consult the testimony of an anonymous State Department official, quoted in the SIGAR report.
“For a long time [the Afghan government] did not take seriously that we were serious about withdrawal, and total withdrawal. They would tell me, Afghanistan is the most important piece of real estate in the world, how could you leave a territory as important geopolitically?” the official revealed. “I tried to plead with [the Afghan President], saying I know he’s very well-connected but, in our system, the President ultimately decides, and he should take this seriously not to miscalculate.”
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Absent 'friends:' What Ukraine could learn from a new report about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan
Published: 10 Mar 2023 | 18:41 GMT
The American exit from Kabul might be taste of the future for officials in Kiev
Absent 'friends:' What Ukraine could learn from a new report about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan
FILE PHOTO: An Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) soldier mans a machinegun mounted on a vehicle while patrolling an area during a military operation in Guzara. © HOSHANG HASHIMI / AFP
By Felix Livshitz
In the spirit of better late than never, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) has published an extensive investigation into the collapse of the Afghan National Defense and Security Forces (ANDSF) following the US withdrawal from Kabul in August 2021. The report not only offers, at-times shocking, detail on the level of Washington’s betrayal, but important lessons for America’s international allies today.
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If only you knew how bad things really are
The ANDSF’s collapse was quite a sight to behold. The vast fighting force, constructed at a cost of $90 billion over 20 years, seemed to vanish even faster than the American aircraft escaping Kabul airport. This is despite US officials endlessly claiming in the leadup to the West’s wholesale pullout from Afghanistan that the government was more than capable of defending itself without foreign support.
However, SIGAR’s appraisal makes clear this disintegration was a long-time in the making. The February 2020 Dohar agreement between former President Donald Trump's administration and the Taliban meant that the ANDSF could no longer rely on the US military’s presence in Afghanistan to protect against losses, move weaponry and other supplies around the country on its behalf, or even for their salaries to be paid by the government in Kabul.
As a result, the often unpaid army units stationed around the country lacked ammunition, food, water, and other basic necessities to “sustain military engagements against the Taliban” - and any will whatsoever to fight.
“The Taliban’s military campaign exploited the ANDSF’s logistical, tactical, and leadership weaknesses. Direct attacks and negotiated surrenders set up a domino effect of one district after another falling to the Taliban,” SIGAR records. “The Taliban’s media and psychological warfare campaign, magnified by real-time reporting, further undermined the Afghan forces’ determination to fight.”
Even before the Dohar agreement though, “underlying and systemic factors…made the ANSDF vulnerable to collapse in the first place.” Chief among them, US plans to build the Afghan armed forces were “disconnected from a realistic understanding of the time required” to do so. This is despite Washington taking decades to achieve a similar result in South Korea.
Advisors themselves were also judged by SIGAR to be “often poorly trained and inexperienced for their mission.” Key challenges were “limited or no pre-deployment and in-theater training, and frequent rotational deployments that lacked proper handovers.” These shortcomings meant the US could neither build relationships with nor improve the capacity of the ANDSF.
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Despite the report’s inventory of savage indictments, it concludes by stating SIGAR is “not making any recommendations” for future US action, or policy, as a result of its findings. Pentagon officials probably wouldn’t listen even if any were offered. An annex of the document notes that the Department of Defense’s engagement with SIGAR’s investigation was minimal, with virtually none of the information requested turned over.
The Pentagon “only provided limited responses to SIGAR’s request for information and missed every deadline for responding to SIGAR’s questions or for providing feedback to vetting drafts of this report,” the appraisal notes. For example in November 2021, SIGAR submitted 21 separate questions to the Department of Defense, asking for replies by 21 December 2021. It wasn’t until eight months later “limited records” were given.
Lessons to learn
Still, the lessons of SIGAR’s report are very clear. First and foremost, its disclosures stand as a stark warning of the fate that could await close US allies, should Washington’s “interests” be served by abandoning them at a given moment.
For example, ANDSF members who did not manage to flee Afghanistan following the US withdrawal have either been killed or joined “extremist groups”. Either way, they’ve been completely forgotten about, an obvious outcome of Washington showing little interest in ensuring safe passage out of the country for its former proxy fighters, before, during or after its own escape.
Likewise, much of the military equipment provided by the US is now used by the Taliban for both training and operations, including armored vehicles and military aircraft. They have been detected in videos of military parades, and training sessions.
It was even difficult for Washington to know which weaponry and ammunition had been sent to Afghanistan by the Department of Defense. SIGAR found officials failed to provide accurate accounting of shipments, and fell far short of oversight requirements “for monitoring sensitive equipment transferred to the Afghan government and the ANDSF,” making it likely that equipment could be lost or stolen. Internal controls failed to offer protection against fictitious records being logged in internal monitoring systems.
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Nonetheless, the US did scramble to rescue some of the gear it provided to the ANDSF, in particular aircraft intended for the ill-fated Afghan Air Force.
Some of the salvaged planes were moved into storage in the US, while “others have already been repurposed and sent to other countries, such as Ukraine.”
The reference to these jets reaching Ukraine is particularly fitting, given it was not long after its hasty retreat from Afghanistan – following 20 years of failure – that Kiev became the primary foreign policy focus for the White House. With weapons, ammunition, political will and public support all nearly spent across Europe and North America, the current proxy war with Russia probably can't be sustained for two decades, and maybe not even two years.
Ukrainian leaders might want to to consult the testimony of an anonymous State Department official, quoted in the SIGAR report.
“For a long time [the Afghan government] did not take seriously that we were serious about withdrawal, and total withdrawal. They would tell me, Afghanistan is the most important piece of real estate in the world, how could you leave a territory as important geopolitically?” the official revealed. “I tried to plead with [the Afghan President], saying I know he’s very well-connected but, in our system, the President ultimately decides, and he should take this seriously not to miscalculate.”
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Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Vanuit Marioepol bijvoorbeeld werden er corridors gemaakt de bedoeling was dat die leiden naar Oekraïene maar veel vluchtelingen belanden in Rusland.quote:
Ik las ergens dat de meeste gevluchtte Oekrainers juist naar Rusland zijn gegaan.
what the.. 🤔
Rusland heeft een behoorlijke gebied van Oekraïne in handen alle burgers die niet maar westen zijn getrokken worden beschouwd als vluchteling naar Rusland aangezien Rusland het gebied heeft geclaimd als hun grondgebied.
Dus ja dan heb je veel vluchtelingen, maar polen heeft er alsnog meer plus veel vluchtelingen zijn ook al weer naar Oekraïne terug aangezien het front gebied meer naar het oosten licht in tegenstelling tot het begin van de oorlog.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Zo kan het dus ook
Dit is wat wereldleiders zouden moeten doen , bemiddelen ipv oorlog stoken
Dit is wat wereldleiders zouden moeten doen , bemiddelen ipv oorlog stoken
En dit terwijl de VS en het westen schuimbekkend gefocussed blijven op oekr, waar ze samen mee ten onder zullen gaan.quote:China bemiddelt vete tussen rivalen Iran en Saoedi-Arabië
https://www.msn.com/nl-be(...)iran-en-saoedi-arabië/ar-AA18trJR
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
Dat is ook door diverse partijen geprobeerd, maar Rusland wilde niet en is daarna Oekraine binnengevallen.quote:
Zo kan het dus ook
Dit is wat wereldleiders zouden moeten doen , bemiddelen ipv oorlog stoken
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En dit terwijl de VS en het westen schuimbekkend gefocussed blijven op oekr, waar ze samen mee ten onder zullen gaan.
Vind je ook dat de VS moet gaan bemiddelen rondom Taiwan?quote:
Zo kan het dus ook
Dit is wat wereldleiders zouden moeten doen , bemiddelen ipv oorlog stoken
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En dit terwijl de VS en het westen schuimbekkend gefocussed blijven op oekr, waar ze samen mee ten onder zullen gaan.
Dus niet meer Taiwans zijde kiezen en hun belangen ook militair te beschermen, inclusief dat Taiwan onder de amerikaanse 'nucleair umbrella' valt..
Wat natuurlijk een kernoorlog laat ontstaan als china een 'Special Millitairy Operation' daar afkondigt
Der der den Wind der Veränderung spürt, sollte keinen Windschutz sondern eine Windmühle bauen.
Bemiddelen voor vrede en daar profijt uit trekkenquote:
Vind je ook dat de VS moet gaan bemiddelen rondom Taiwan?
Dus niet meer Taiwans zijde kiezen en hun belangen ook militair te beschermen, inclusief dat Taiwan onder de amerikaanse 'nucleair umbrella' valt..
Wat natuurlijk een kernoorlog laat ontstaan als china een 'Special Millitairy Operation' daar afkondigt
Niet bemiddelen voor oorlog om daar profijt uit te trekken.
Maar dat is iets wat de VS nog niet echt onder de knie heeft.
Ze graven hun eigen graf zo.
Als alle grootste olieproducenten zich gaan verenigen en een eigen petro-munt gaan opzetten, is het byebye petrodollar en byebye …
Meer oorlog op komst dus
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
Inderdaad schandalig dat ze in 1944 nederland bevrijdden van de duitse bezetting...quote:
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Bemiddelen voor vrede en daar profijt uit trekken
Niet bemiddelen voor oorlog om daar profijt uit te trekken.
Maar dat is iets wat de VS nog niet echt onder de knie heeft.
Ze hadden moeten onderhandelen
Der der den Wind der Veränderung spürt, sollte keinen Windschutz sondern eine Windmühle bauen.
quote:
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Inderdaad schandalig dat ze in 1944 nederland bevrijdden van de duitse bezetting...
Ze hadden moeten onderhandelen
Tijden veranderen…
En dat hebben ze zelf al genoeg bewezen
I understand how you feel. You see, it's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. It's wonderful.
Jij doet net alsof het een voetbalwedstrijd is.quote:
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Dat is wat ik hier vaak tegenkom, dat alle steun aan Oekraïne moet worden ingetrokken, zodat Rusland alsnog een overwinning krijgt.
Waarom?quote:
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Jij doet net alsof het een voetbalwedstrijd is.
Tja, kennelijk op een misplaatste manier mij napapegaaien.quote:
Groepsimmuniteit mag wel het resultaat zijn, maar niet het doel... - Vallon
De proxy oorlog tussen Iran en Saoedi Arabië duurt al enkele decennia.quote:
Zo kan het dus ook
Dit is wat wereldleiders zouden moeten doen , bemiddelen ipv oorlog stoken
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Nee hoor, wij vechten niet mee in Oekraïne.quote:En dit terwijl de VS en het westen schuimbekkend gefocussed blijven op oekr, waar ze samen mee ten onder zullen gaan.
Rusland en Oekraïne gaan samen ten onder, en het staat China vrij om daarbij te bemiddelen voor een vreedzame oplossing.
Groepsimmuniteit mag wel het resultaat zijn, maar niet het doel... - Vallon
Jij vindt het toch?quote:
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Goede vraag. Dat zou je aan Wantie moeten vragen.
Voornamelijk Canadese en Engelse hebben Nederland bevrijd. En Marokkanen hoorde ikquote:
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Inderdaad schandalig dat ze in 1944 nederland bevrijdden van de duitse bezetting...
Ze hadden moeten onderhandelen
De VS boeide Nederland niet, zij wilde doorstoten om als eerste in Berlijn te zijn en Duitse technologie veroveren, voor de sovjets.
De Engelsen zijn ook nog behoorlijk aan het plunderen geweest in Nederland.quote:
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Voornamelijk Canadese en Engelse hebben Nederland bevrijd. En Marokkanen hoorde ik
De VS boeide Nederland niet, zij wilde doorstoten om als eerste in Berlijn te zijn en Duitse technologie veroveren, voor de sovjets.
Maar ja dat moet allemaal verzwegen worden.
Graag verwijderen
Hoe kom je erbij dat het verzwegen moet worden?quote:
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De Engelsen zijn ook nog behoorlijk aan het plunderen geweest in Nederland.
Maar ja dat moet allemaal verzwegen worden.
