Presidentsverkiezingen VS #60 Projeksieee

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Reuters on Tuesday released excerpts from last call between Biden and Ghani before the Afghan president fled

They talked for about 14 minutes on July 23 as the Taliban advanced rapidly

Biden told his counterpart of a perception that the fight against the Taliban was not going well

'There is a need, whether it is true or not ... to project a different picture,' he said

Comments are indication Biden knew it was matter of time before Taliban won

In months leading up to withdrawal, Biden predicted pullout would go smoothly

Neither appeared to realize just how badly things would go

Less than four weeks later the Taliban had captured Kabul

President Joe Biden wanted the now-departed Afghan president to create the 'perception' that his government was capable of holding off the Taliban - an indication he knew it was only a matter of time before the US ally fell to the Islamic group even while reassuring Americans at home that it would not happen.

In the last phone call between Biden and his Afghan then-counterpart Ashraf Ghani, the American president said they needed to change perceptions of the Taliban's rapid advance 'whether it is true or not,' according to excerpts published on Tuesday.

The call took place on July 23 - weeks before the fall of Kabul - but Biden on Tuesday repeated his assertion that his team was caught flat-footed by the rapid Taliban takeover of the country.

'The assumption was that more than 300,000 Afghan national security forces that we had trained over the past two decades, and equipped, would be a strong adversary in their civil wars with the Taliban,' Biden told the nation in a televised speech from the White House on Tuesday.

'That assumption that the Afghan government would be able to hold on for a period of time beyond military drawdown turned out not to be accurate.

'But I still instructed our national security team to prepare for every eventuality, even that one. And that's what we did.

'So, we were ready when the Afghan security forces, after two decades of fighting for their country and losing thousands of their own, did not hold on as long as anyone expected.'

Four weeks before Kabul collapsed, Ghani pleaded for more air support and money for soldiers who had not had a pay rise in a decade.

A transcript obtained by Reuters from an anonymous source reveals two leaders oblivious to the impending disaster and an American president focused on spinning the message.

'I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban,' Biden said.

'And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture.'

The Taliban were already capturing district after district across the country, while the US and Afghanistan were at loggerheads over tactics.

In the months leading up to the chaotic US military withdrawal from Afghanistan, which was completed on Monday, Biden was telling the public a different story - that the withdrawal would be done smoothly and that Washington's Afghan allies were in control.

'I don't think anybody anticipated that,' Biden told ABC News when asked about the swift disintegration of the Afghan security forces.

In April, Biden said that the US couldn't stay in Afghanistan forever and that it was time to bring the troops home.

'We'll do it responsibly, deliberately, and safely. And we will do it in full coordination with our allies and partners, who now have more forces in Afghanistan than we do,' Biden said.

'And the Taliban should know that if they attack us as we draw down, we will defend ourselves and our partners with all the tools at our disposal.'

In July, Biden said that the withdrawal, which was to be complete by August 31, was 'proceeding in a secure and orderly way.' He gave no indication that it would be chaotic.

When asked if a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan was inevitable, the president responded: 'No, it is not.'

Biden said that the Afghan government has '300,000 well-equipped (forces) as well-equipped as any army in the world - and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban.

'It is not inevitable.'

When Biden was asked if he trusted the Taliban, the president replied: 'No. But I trust the capacity of the Afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped, and more competent in terms of conducting war.'

The president was then asked about his own intelligence community's assessment that the Afghan government would likely collapse.

'That is not true,' Biden responded. 'They did not reach that conclusion.'

'The intelligence community did not say, back in June or July, that in fact this was going to collapse like it did,' Biden told ABC News earlier this month.

Biden said that he was not told that the Taliban would take over as quickly as they did. Instead, he said there was a possibility it would take more time.

'Not even close,' Biden said.

Behind the scenes, however, Biden apparently knew that the situation was more precarious.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 16:04 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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De vraag is alleen als de tactiek is gebruikt die beschreven word in het artikel van de NY post, hoe ga je het dan bewijzen?
Dat systeem is behoorlijk waterdicht.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 16:41 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
As Biden repeats claim that ‘nobody could have known’ Afghan Army would collapse, bombshell transcript from July reveals he pressured Afghan President Ghani to create 'perception' Taliban wasn't winning ‘WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT’
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Schandalig. Laat het bagatelliseren maar beginnen.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 17:53 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Als Trump dit gedaan had dan was de wereld te klein geweest.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 17:53 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Als Trump dit gedaan had dan was de wereld te klein geweest.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 18:25 schreef Kansenjongere het volgende:

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Nee hoor, dan zou jij dit nu juist hebben zitten te bagatelliseren.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 18:43 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Heb je nog iets inhoudelijks te melden of kom je slecht jij-bakken?

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Two Gold Star fathers of U.S. Marines killed during the terrorist attacks in Kabul, Afghanistan, recently spoke out about their experiences with President Joe Biden.

Mark Schmitz, the father of Marine Jared Schmitz, and Darin Hoover, the father of Marine Darin Taylor Hoover Jr. discussed their loss during an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Monday.

Schmitz decided to meet with Biden, but Hoover told Hannity, “we didn’t want [Biden] anywhere near us,” the outlet reported.

According to Schmitz, the meeting was not pleasant and he said the president talked more about his deceased son, former Delaware State Attorney General Joseph “Beau” Biden III than he did Jared Schmitz.

“Initially, I wasn’t going to meet with him,” Schmitz noted. “But then I felt I owed it to my son to at least have some words with him about how I felt – and it didn’t go well.”

“He talked a bit more about his own son than he did my son, and that didn’t sit well with me,” he added.

Hoover said the reason behind why he chose not to meet with Biden began at Dover Air Force Base where the president and first lady solemnly greeted the caskets of the 13 fallen servicemembers.

Biden faced mounting criticism after a clip emerged online Sunday of him looking at his watch during the transfer ceremony of the Marines slain in Afghanistan.

Hoover claimed Biden looked at his watch several times while the caskets were being offloaded.

“That didn’t happen just once. It happened on every single one that came out of that airplane. It happened on every single one of them. They would release the salute, and he would look down at his watch on every last one, all 13, he looked down at his watch,” he commented.

When asked why Hoover’s family declined to meet with President Biden, he stated, “We said, ‘absolutely not.’ We didn’t want to deal with him. We didn’t want him anywhere near us. We, as a family, decided that that was the way it was going to be.”

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 18:43 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Heb je nog iets inhoudelijks te melden of kom je slecht jij-bakken?

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Florida Republican Congressman Matt Gaetz has been exonerated after 62-year-old Stephen Alford was recently indicted by the Department of Justice for extortion.

"Stephen M. Alford did knowingly and willfully devise, and intent to devise, a scheme to defraud and for obtaining money and property by means of material false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises, and for the promise of executing such scheme, did cause, and attempt to cause, a wire communication to be transmitted in interstate commerce," the indictment states.

Earlier this year, Gaetz was adamant Alford was making false allegations of sexual misconduct against him in order to extort money from his successful and wealthy family.

Back in March when news broke that the Department of Justice was investigating Gaetz for sexual misconduct, the congressman maintained he was being extorted.

"The allegations of sexual misconduct against me are false," Gaetz told Axios at the time. "They are rooted in an extortion effort against my family for $25 million."

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 19:24 schreef Kansenjongere het volgende:

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Dus jij begint met een "ja maar hullie" en gaat huilen als je een spiegel voorgehouden wordt?

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 19:30 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
Matt Gaetz Exonerated from 'Pile of Lies' After Man Charged with Extortion
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Goh, verrassend! Grappig dat de dingen die ik maanden geleden riep waar blijken te zijn, en dat de MSM-volgers weer te kakken zijn gezet. Er lijkt wel een patroon te zijn.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 20:20 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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Ik zag je dit soort teksten nooit uitkramen in AMV, waarom heb je nu ineens de behoefte om dat wel te doen?

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 16:39 schreef Kijkertje het volgende:

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Biden is een uitermate geschikte kandidaat en dat is ook wel gebleken. Van alle kandidaten had hij de meeste kans om het van Trump te kunnen winnen, dat wist Trump zelfs

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 19:30 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
Matt Gaetz Exonerated from 'Pile of Lies' After Man Charged with Extortion
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Goh, verrassend! Grappig dat de dingen die ik maanden geleden riep waar blijken te zijn, en dat de MSM-volgers weer te kakken zijn gezet. Er lijkt wel een patroon te zijn.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 20:22 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

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En daarom weigerde ik deze man te veroordelen.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 15:15 schreef Ixnay het volgende:

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Als ellende een voorteken is dat een president verliest dan zal Biden nooit meer verkiezingen winnen. 85,1 miljard dollar aan wapens achterlaten bij de Taliban is niet niks.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 14:55 schreef Ixnay het volgende:

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1.630.866 stemmen tegen 1.610.184.

Dat zijn 20.000 stemmen verschil in Wisconsin.
Dat is ongeveer een halve procent verschil over het hele aantal stemmen in Wisconsin.
Precies wat hij nodig had.
En die laatste paar stemmen kwamen binnen vlak voordat ze stopten met tellen in Wisconsin. Waren ze iets eerder gestopt dan had Biden niet gewonnen.
Zo hey, wat een toeval.

En datzelfde gebeurde precies ook in Michigan. Toeval.
En datzelfde gebeurde precies ook in Pennsylvania. Toeval.
En datzelfde gebeurde precies ook in Georgia. Toeval.
En datzelfde gebeurde precies ook in Arizona. Toeval.

Toevallig genoeg? Ik maak het nog toevalliger. Dit zijn uitgerekend de staten waar ze middernacht na de verkiezingsavond zijn gestopt met tellen en de dagen daarna nog stemmen mochten binnenkomen die meetellen.

Uitgerekend deze staten met minuscule verschillen zoals in Geogia (12.000) en Arizona (10.000
verschil).

"De democraten die winnen in Georgia (een behoorlijk Republiekeinse staat)? Opmerkelijk. Dan moet Biden wel een monsterzege gemaakt hebben in Florida, dat veel democratischer is. En eigenlijk een landslide overwinning van de hele verkiezingen. Want als je Florida wint, win je bijna altijd de verkiezingen, zoals is gebleken."

Nee... Opmerkelijk genoeg won Biden Florida niet in 2020 maar Georgia wel... Hoe kan dat nou? 2 staten die zo veel op elkaar lijken, waarbij Florida veel Democratischer is vanwege de grotere steden en de multiculturele samenstelling van de bevolking.

"Waarom won hij Florida niet?"

Daar waren ze dus NIET gestopt met tellen om middernacht en was er WEL al een uitslag op verkiezingsavond. Ook werden poststemmen na de verkiezingsavond NIET meer goedgekeurd. Dit heeft blijkbaar de doorslag gegeven waarom Biden wel Georgia heeft gepakt en niet Florida. Want andersom was VEEL logischer geweest.

Deze verkiezingen zijn bepaald door fraude. Mede dankzij de frauduleuze poststemmen.

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Op woensdag 1 september 2021 14:38 schreef Ixnay het volgende:

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Hahaha wat is die goed.

Dus iemand draagt make-up met een oranje tint, wat hij blijkbaar mooi vindt, zijn keuze, en jij noemt hem daarom Orangeman.

Wat origineel, hahahahaha.