Het grote Joe Biden topic #MASA #3

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 10:31 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Het blijft wel hilarisch dat wanhopige stampvoeten om een schandaal dat maar geen schandaal wil worden.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 10:12 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Heel vervelend voor je dat het lijkt dat dit verhaal geen we gaan tot de orde van de dag verder is.
Balen!

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 10:20 schreef Sjemmert het volgende:
Ah ja de meeting waar niets gebeurd is en waar Hillary niet eens ter sprake kwam volgens de 302 van de aanwezige tolk.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 10:31 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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Het blijft wel hilarisch dat wanhopige stampvoeten om een schandaal dat maar geen schandaal wil worden.

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Buried From Trump Tower Meeting: Translator Telling FBI 'No Collusion'

Just days after news of the infamous Trump Tower meeting drew the attention of Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, the translator present told the FBI there was no talk of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, according to recently released documents.

This exculpatory evidence – which backed accounts of Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign officials in attendance – was not mentioned in Special Counsel Mueller’s final report two years later. And the silence in the interim occurred as sinister theorizing on cable TV and in the press helped shape a public impression of the June 9, 2016 meeting as central to collusion.

The new documents record that on July 12, 2017, four days after the New York Times first disclosed the meeting, relying on government leaks, the FBI interviewed Anatoli Samochornov, a freelance translator with long ties to the U.S. government who had been engaged by the Russian side. Elaborating the day after its initial report, the Times used more leaks to report that Trump Jr. had agreed to the meeting because he was told that a Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, would provide damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

Whatever the suspicions raised by the Trump son's emailed response, "If it's what you say I love it," the meeting didn't live up to the billing, judging from what the translator told the FBI. Bureau notes show he told agents, “There was no discussion of the 2016 United States presidential election or Collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.” The agent notes also state, “There was no smoking gun according to Samochornov. There was not a discussion about ‘dirt’ on Hillary Clinton. Samochornov did not think Hillary Clinton was mentioned by name.”

Samochornov told the FBI that the meeting was 20 minutes long and focused on the Magnitsky Act, which imposes financial sanctions on wealthy Russians, and related matters. He recounted that Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was apparently so uninterested in the topic that he used his cellphone under the table throughout, and “five to seven minutes after it began” Trump adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner left. FBI notes also record that “Samochornov was not particularly fond of Donald Trump Jr., but stated that Donald Trump Jr.’s account of the meeting with Veselnitskaya, as portrayed in recent media reports, was accurate.”

Fourteen of the 448 pages of the Mueller Report are devoted to laying out in great detail the chronology and circumstances of the Trump Tower meeting. There are no mentions of Samochornov’s flat denial of collusion or his corroboration of Trump Jr.’s description of the meeting as benign, even though report footnotes list the translator's FBI interview nine times with little elaboration.


Buried From Trump Tower Meeting: Translator Telling FBI 'No Collusion'
By Mark Hemingway, RealClearInvestigations
Just days after news of the infamous Trump Tower meeting drew the attention of Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, the translator present told the FBI there was no talk of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin, according to recently released documents.


Anatoli Samochornov, translator, quoted in FBI memo: "There was no discussion of the 2016 United States presidential election or Collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.”
LinkedIn via CBS News
This exculpatory evidence – which backed accounts of Donald Trump Jr. and other campaign officials in attendance – was not mentioned in Special Counsel Mueller’s final report two years later. And the silence in the interim occurred as sinister theorizing on cable TV and in the press helped shape a public impression of the June 9, 2016 meeting as central to collusion.

The new documents record that on July 12, 2017, four days after the New York Times first disclosed the meeting, relying on government leaks, the FBI interviewed Anatoli Samochornov, a freelance translator with long ties to the U.S. government who had been engaged by the Russian side. Elaborating the day after its initial report, the Times used more leaks to report that Trump Jr. had agreed to the meeting because he was told that a Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya, would provide damaging information on Hillary Clinton.

Whatever the suspicions raised by the Trump son's emailed response, "If it's what you say I love it," the meeting didn't live up to the billing, judging from what the translator told the FBI. Bureau notes show he told agents, “There was no discussion of the 2016 United States presidential election or Collusion between the Russian government and the Trump campaign.” The agent notes also state, “There was no smoking gun according to Samochornov. There was not a discussion about ‘dirt’ on Hillary Clinton. Samochornov did not think Hillary Clinton was mentioned by name.”


Donald Trump Jr.: Translator account backs his version of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting. Why did the FBI sit on it?
(AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)
Samochornov told the FBI that the meeting was 20 minutes long and focused on the Magnitsky Act, which imposes financial sanctions on wealthy Russians, and related matters. He recounted that Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort was apparently so uninterested in the topic that he used his cellphone under the table throughout, and “five to seven minutes after it began” Trump adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner left. FBI notes also record that “Samochornov was not particularly fond of Donald Trump Jr., but stated that Donald Trump Jr.’s account of the meeting with Veselnitskaya, as portrayed in recent media reports, was accurate.”

Fourteen of the 448 pages of the Mueller Report are devoted to laying out in great detail the chronology and circumstances of the Trump Tower meeting. There are no mentions of Samochornov’s flat denial of collusion or his corroboration of Trump Jr.’s description of the meeting as benign, even though report footnotes list the translator's FBI interview nine times with little elaboration.


Natalia Veselnitskaya: Russian lawyer met Glenn Simpson before and after Trump Tower meeting, but Simpson says those encounters were coincidental.
AP Photo/Dmitry Serebryakov, File
The contents of Samochornov’s “302” – the form used by the FBI to report and summarize agent interviews – were first flagged this month by “Undercover Huber,” a pseudonymous Twitter account dedicated to following Trump-Russia news (not to be confused with Justice Department official John Huber, who was tasked with investigating potential FBI misconduct during the 2016 election). The document, with agents’ names redacted, was posted by the FBI under a federal judge’s order to release on a monthly basis 302s underpinning the Mueller Report, following a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit brought by CNN and BuzzFeed.

Samochornov told the FBI that Veselnitskaya had dangled one piece of potentially partisan political information before the Trump officials – the claim that business associates of William Browder, the American businessman behind the passage of the Magnitsky Act, had made illicit donations to Democratic campaigns. Interview notes state that “Samochornov did not know if the donation(s) were made directly to the Clinton campaign, the Democratic National Committee, or a political action committee.”

This allegation, which was trumpeted by Russian President Vladimir Putin, was false. In November of 2017, Reuters reported that Fusion GPS – the Washington, D.C., opposition research firm paid by the Clinton campaign to compile the debunked Steele “dossier” used by the FBI to obtain warrants to spy on the Trump campaign – had provided Veselnitskaya with the bogus Browder-connected dirt before the Trump Tower meeting.

In their book “Crime in Progress,” Fusion co-founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch disavow having anything to do with the meeting. They write that previous Fusion work with Veselnitskaya explains Simpson's meeting with her in court on June 9, the day of the meeting, and afterward at a Washington, D.C., dinner that night.

Mueller reportedly explored charging the Trump campaign officials with campaign finance violations as a result of the meeting, on the untested theory that Veselnitskaya’s offer of damaging information could constitute an illegal campaign donation from a foreign source. Ultimately, Mueller decided against it.

Speculation about Russia collusion involving the Trump Tower meeting abounded in media accounts throughout the 2018 midterm elections, raising questions about whether the Mueller team should have disclosed the translator’s information. Mueller did speak out to correct faulty reporting on another matter that appeared damaging to the president, shutting down a BuzzFeed report alleging Trump had directed his lawyer Michael Cohen to lie to Congress.

The Justice Department declined to comment on the assertions in Samochornov’s 302.

The Mueller Report contains information that supports Samochornov’s credibility. It reports that the translator was involved in civil litigation with Veselnitskaya on an unrelated matter. At one point, Samochornov said, the organization that hired him to work with Veselnitskaya on repealing the Magnitsky Act offered to pay $90,000 worth of his related legal fees – if he would corroborate certain statements made by Veselnitskaya.

“Samochornov declined,” the Mueller Report states, “telling the Office that he did not want to perjure himself.”

The FBI’s 302 also records that he explicitly informed the FBI of his legal entanglement during his interview, and Samochornov has a long track record of working as a translator for the State Department and other government agencies on a contract basis. He has been married to Tatiana Rodzianko, a State Department employee, since 2006.

“Samochornov told the interviewing agents that he would have contacted the FBI if he thought the meeting was nefarious,” according to the 302.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 09:44 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Noem eens een voorbeeld daarvan op de wijze waarop ik het zojuist omschreef!

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 13:10 schreef Pleun2011 het volgende:

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Je denkt te weten dat de polls er weer naast zitten, maar dat kan je niet weten.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 14:45 schreef dellipder het volgende:
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The warnings to the White House, which have not previously been reported, led national security adviser Robert O’Brien to caution Trump in a private conversation that any information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia, one of the former officials said.

The message was, “Do what you want to do, but your friend Rudy has been worked by Russian assets in Ukraine,” this person said. Officials wanted “to protect the president from coming out and saying something stupid,” particularly since he was facing impeachment over his own efforts to strong-arm Ukraine’s president into investigating the Bidens.

https://www.washingtonpos(...)59b92b36d_story.html

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:13 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:
"Het is toch maar een hoax waar niemand iets om geeft", aldus de partij die er werkelijk alles aan doet om het klein te houden en alle bronnen probeert te censureren en delegitimeren.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:20 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Aldus de user die vol op de paranoid conspiracy nut job train is gesprongen.

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Er is helemaal niks te vinden in dat brodddelwerkje over Hunter Biden. Wil je kritiek hebben op Biden? Prima, meer dan prima. Maar doe dat dan op z'n beleidspunten ipv dit soort hilarische onzin.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:22 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Hmm?
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Ik heb het liever over Bidens overduidelijk bewezen corruptie.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:25 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Die is er niet.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:29 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Als je heel hard wenst komt het misschien nog uit ook!

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:29 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Als je heel hard wenst komt het misschien nog uit ook!

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 15:29 schreef Ensiferum het volgende:

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Als je heel hard wenst komt het misschien nog uit ook!

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During his confirmation hearing in May to oversee the nation’s spy agencies, John Ratcliffe, then a lawmaker from Texas, promised senators skeptical of his vocal support for President Trump that he would be “entirely apolitical as the director of national intelligence.”

A few months into his tenure, Mr. Ratcliffe has emerged as anything but. He has approved selective declassifications of intelligence that aim to score political points, left Democratic lawmakers out of briefings, accused congressional opponents of leaks, offered Republican operatives top spots in his headquarters and made public assertions that contradicted professional intelligence assessments.

None of the moves have dismayed his critics, or intelligence officials inside the C.I.A. and the National Security Agency, as much as Mr. Ratcliffe’s decision to release unverified intelligence last week that mentioned Hillary Clinton. Intelligence professionals said the material could be Russian disinformation, but even if its substance — that Russian intelligence had information that Mrs. Clinton’s 2016 campaign planned to tie Mr. Trump to the Kremlin’s election hacks — were true, it hardly demonstrated anything nefarious about her.

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Gina Haspel, the director of the C.I.A., opposed the declassifications, saying that the release of the unverified raw material could jeopardize spies’ ability to gather intelligence and endanger their sources, according to two people familiar with the matter. But Mr. Ratcliffe, who has the authority to release intelligence, and Mark Meadows, the White House chief of staff, favored the move, the people said.

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Some former senior intelligence officials accused Mr. Ratcliffe of advancing Mr. Trump’s personal agenda and, in the process, politicizing the traditionally apolitical intelligence community.

“He is doing exactly what the administration brought him in to do as D.N.I.,” said Joseph Maguire, whom Mr. Trump dismissed as acting director of national intelligence in February.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 16:16 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:
Maar met als deze noeste waarheidsvinders hard aan het werk vraag ik mij wel af waarom nog niemand antwoord kan geven op de vraag aan wie Trump nu persoonlijk een schuld heeft van 400 miljoen dollar.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 16:19 schreef Chivaz het volgende:

Aan mij, hij betaald mij ook netjes af elke maand.

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Op maandag 19 oktober 2020 17:00 schreef SnertMetChoco het volgende:
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